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- The smaller ADV 350 is my daily ride, so I was keen to see what its larger, more powerful, more bike-like sibling could do.
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro
00:56 A 2-wheeled Chevrolet SSR?
01:54 Who is the X-ADV for?
02:40 Riding position
03:20 DCT gearbox
03:50 Engine performance
04:40 Bars, brakes & clock
05:08 Comfort
05:50 Storage
06:55 So, is it fun?
11:08 RocketScore
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Howdy RocketMan!
I own an X-ADV 750, and I think you absolutely hit the nail on the head. There are tons of bikes that are better and cheaper than the X-ADV.
With that being said, my X-ADV will probably be my last bike (until they turbo it, 50-ish HP is too little! 75-80hp would be Goldilocks perfect)
Why? Because the X-ADV does everything my 5 previous bikes could do to an acceptable degree. Also, I don't drive and it's not financially prudent for me to own more than 1 bike.
It has:
- comparable fuel economy to my smaller beginner bikes
- on par (possibly better) touring capability to my bigger bikes
- similar storage capacity to my vespa
- auto transmission for city riding and traffic
- manual mode for more "spirited" riding
- ease of mind Honda reliability (subjective, I know)
- sufficient off-road capability for going on gravel/dirt paths
To cap it off, _I can just do _*_more_*_ on the X-ADV than I comfortably would've _*_on any single one of my other bikes._* So while it's not gotten my heart racing like my 110hp Daytona Cam'd Steet Triple, I've already had more all-round fun on the X-ADV.
For perspective, I've owned and ridden:
1. KTM 200SX
2. Honda CB400 Super Four
3. Husqvarna FE 350
4. Ducati Scrambler Icon
5. Triumph Street Triple 675R
6. Vespa GTS 300
TL;DR It's all about your needs and what an acceptable level of compromise is for you!
Thanks for your objective feedback. Much appreciated. Ride safe👍😊
Amazing comment. Bought a Dady, waiting for Monday, when I’ll pick up on my dealership.
As always - an honest, unbiased, and eye-opening review. Thanks, and keep on making new ones.
Thanks. Nice to know my approach is appreciated😊👍
@@RocketMan_Moto 👍
It would be great to see the rocket score of a DCT Honda Goldwing Bagger all the reviews I have watched have been gushing.
@@StayAtHomeBiker Well, at least that bike trully fits in it's category.
Pity we could not get a RM review of Versys...
If I could get hold of all these bikes, I would test them, but demonstrator bikes are few and far between down here. If I lived in south east England, things would be different... :)
Great review in my opinion and bang on with your conclusions. Keep 'em coming please!
Thank you, Mike😊
You hit the nail on the head Rocket Man. I went down the same road and sold my Forza 350 tested the ADV 350 & 750 bought the silver-grey 350 and installed a screen extension as you have. I made a little wooden wedge that holds the screen adjuster out on the right side, now I can adjust the screen with one hand while riding it works perfectly. I also installed a Givi backrest for the girlfriend.
This magic wedge sounds intriguing!
The difference is that the Adv 350 is a scooter while the X ADV 750 is a motorcycle. A unique motorcycle that Honda designed and no other company sells, that's why it costs so much. The NC 750X is a simple ordinary motorcycle of which there are dozens like it. I live in the Mediterranean and all the Honda dealerships sell these bikes like crazy. Unfortunately in this life not everything is for everyone :)) Bravo to the Honda for this unique model that is permanently out of stock😢
I’m glad you’ve found the right bike for you👍😊
Love the comment about riding a horse, getting on and off gracefully and the wide stance are my only gripes about the bike. My 2019 X-Adv is just perfect for the Scottish B-Roads. DCT really suits it and having the break lever on the left handlebar means better control of DCT at low speeds, easy dragging the back break. I have SW Motech Trax panniers so luggage space no problem. Road legal and safe driving the thing is fast enough. I have the older instrument panel which I think is super easy to get all info in a glance. I have the optional footpegs which I recommend to all owners as they make the twisty roads even more engaging. I would not dare take this hippo off road. Looks - no one ever commented on my NC750X, people ask about the scooter all the time.
I would have liked to have tried the footpegs. The DCT seemed a lot slicker on this than on the NT1100👍😊
Great post, Brian. I want a Mk1, too. I also prefer the old dash.
@@RocketMan_Moto Footpegs are so contributive for XAdv. First of all footpegs are so important for offload riding (and believe me this bike can offload) but secondly with footpegs XAdv becomes the ONLY bike you can change your riding position on tarmac. For long journeys it is so important for the sake off your ass and riding experience. On autobahn you position yourself like a scooter(long legs) and when twisties come you use the pegs for a more leaned position and the bike suddenly becomes a naked bike. No other bike i know of has this.
Hi Brian. I'm looking into both the NC and the X-ADV. As you have had both. Can you compare the two
@@MrDjjecky I traded in my NC750X for the X-ADV because of the upgraded suspension with more travel and twin front breaks. Also the upgraded swing arm. The engine and performance I like on both models. Apart from those things it was a choice of style, I prefer the adv looks over the X. Personally I find the seating position is better for me on the avd and find it easier to corner with than the X. I would not go back to an X having owned the adv.
i think this bike truly appeals more to the maxi scooter market and less to other regular motorcycle riders. for those who love everything that maxi scooters offer, they'll get an additional advantage on its "off-road" capability over other maxi scooters, giving them the opportunity to explore more types of terrain with the same bike classification. while for riders who don't like to ride maxi scooters, they wont get the value that the xadv offers over any standard motorcycle of equal displacement or price range..love your reviews and more power!
Been dithering about one of these for a while, your review has definitely confirmed me on the no thank you side of the fence!
It's not a bad bike per se, but there are far better bikes available for less money
Another good review
Thanks, Lyn. Another positive comment👍😊
please do more videos about x-adv 750, this is my dream bike and i have already accepted the fact that i am never gonna be able to afford it. So watching xadv videos gives me a little bit of a satisfaction.
That’s a generous comment, given how critical I was of your dream bike. Thanks😊
@@RocketMan_Moto any new videos related to my dream bike makes me happy :) thank you
Lol😊
Honda would really hate you for this but as a consumer, your honest reviews, opinions and comments are music to our ears. Love watching your bike reviews. I am riding a Yamaha XMAX 300 and everything about this bike is so much better than most other scooters. Hope to see your review on the XMAX in the future.
I appreciate your support👍 The main reason I don’t show my face in these videos is so I can borrow bikes from dealers anonymously. This means I can really say what I think
@@RocketMan_Moto clever. also it shows this is all about the bikes
Great content, keep up the good work!
Thanks, will do!
I’m big fan of the xadv and I just love my one from first test ride to current day. It’s just fun to ride and put smile on my face every time I take it out for a spin. Would love to test the 350, unfortunately not available even to buy with cash in your hand 😉.
I was hoping to become a fan, too, but not with that price difference, I’m afraid😩
@@RocketMan_Moto I have paid £8k back in 2020 for 2019 model with 750 miles on the clock. Now I have person which purchased my previous scooter (xmax 300) waiting for my world GO with £9.5k offer. There must be something about those bikes😉. Some say you have to pay to play 😂. Regards
Nicely done review. It is refreshing to see someone review the XADV without gushing all over it. It’s kind of moot for me to comment, as the XADV is not available on the market here in the U.S., but the concept does interest me. I think you are spot on in opining that it would be a good value at or near the price of the NC750. It certainly seems like the ADV350 is the smart buy, (once again not available to us here. The U.S. is not a scooter centric market.)
Thank you, Stephanie. Such a shame the US doesn’t get these ‘big scooters’ because they’re surprisingly good and complement ‘real’ bikes nicely😊
The most important problem with almost all the reviews of X-ADV is that the test machine lacks foot pegs. I've got those and they changes the bike a lot. Your body position is different, you can stand up easily. Only then it's proper ADV. I believe that Honda did a mistake not to include them in the standard version.
That's quite possible, although I believe the optional pegs are only of any use when you actually stand up. Is that correct?
@@RocketMan_Moto no, i have 2017 mod. pegs, 70000km no problem. Pegs make it to a bike and then you have a choice to strechs your legs on longer rides. DCT and you will never go back to manual when you learn to use it.
@@RocketMan_Moto for me the pegs are a game changer. I use the pegs most of the time around town and on spirited rides on country lanes. They enable better connection to the bike even when sat down. I only use the boards on longer rides/stretches or for shelter from rain.
Even on longer rides having the pegs gives you the ultimate variety of seating positions which can stop uncomfortable leg fatigue setting in.
I only stand on the pegs when I go over things like speed bumps as I don't take the bike off road.
I agree that Honda missed a trick not including them as standard.
But as an aftermarket accessory they're the best thing I've bought.
I had both. The X-ADV is the better tourer, better weather protection, more comfortable seat, better wind protection. In addition, better chassis, better brakes, better display, keyless ride. Whether that is actually worth a 50% higher purchase price, everyone has to know for themselves.
I like the NC750X better.
The NC, or even the CB500X, seems the more rational choice
dang and I was upset it wasn't available here in the U.S. Thanks RocketMan
You’re not missing much😬
I've just moved up to an NT1100 but I had my XADV for 4 years and it was a great all-round bike. I don't quite understand your complaint on the power, this is a pretty good bike in that department and I kept up with much bigger bikes on Euro-tours by keeping it in 'Sports' mode (level 2 of the 3 available) and the mid range torque was great for traffic on country roads. I bought mine as an ex-demo with a good reduction in price. It also came with all the extras inc. heated grips and top box (which took care of the storage problem). The top-box also makes the bike look bigger and less scooterish. A big advantage (which rarely gets a mention but is very important) over the 'proper' scooters - with belt and variator, is the service interval which is 8K miles on this bike, double most scooters. I do agree with the criticism of the high price though, but if you can get a good nearly-new deal I would certainly recommend the XADV.
Thanks for your input. I expect more from a motorcycle than 'just transportation', otherwise I'll take the car. I would rather have the NT than the X-ADV :)
@@RocketMan_Moto Yes - still getting used to the NT - almost twice the HP. Fantastic touring machine though and looking forward to Euro tour in a couple of weeks. Fond memories of the XADV and NC750 before that. Still great bikes that'll keep up with the pack.
The NT does strike me as an excellent tourer. Problem is, I never tour😬
Honest review. I like it.
Thanks :)
Estoy muy emocionado con la motocicleta, tanto así que la compré hace más de dos meses y pronto me la van a entregar(el servicio de venta no es tan eficiente). Saludos desde Colombia. Actualmente tengo una Victory black de 175cc y aunque se que me di un salto grande todas las reviews parecen coincidir y espero que el servicio post venta sea infinitamente mejor que su servicio de preventa. Me gustaría ahorrar y comprar el pack adventure y el pack travel aunque se que incluso en países desarrollados es una compra complicada. Muchísimas gracias por el video y tus opiniones
Thanks for your feedback and for stopping by the channel. I hope you enjoy your new X-ADV :)
Not sure who Honda expects to buy this scooter. The extra 400cc seems to be very expensive! And what, limited storage? As always, an excellent unbiased review just based on facts. Thanks for sharing another great review. Ride safe my friend!
Thanks, Willy :)
Finally rode one yesterday, I was looking at replacing my Tiger 1200 and Forza 300 with just one bike to do everything as the Tiger has done 300 miles in a year. Hardly used it since 2019 when I broke an arm and could only ride the GTS250 for several months. I wasn't blown over. Been looking and reading reviews for months and love the idea of a big scooter for everything. Commuting 10000 miles a year in all weathers I like the idea of fairings etc.
I agree with your comments. The first one who I feel really speaks what he feels, rather than the hype.
I thought the NC750X fitted perfectly as I rode that first, found myself at home, despite riding a Forza 300 since May and a Vespa GTS for 2 1/2 years.
Weird seating position, not bike, not scooter.
MPG not as good as the NC either
But weather protection is far better..........................
Is it worth the extra £2500 as well?
Thanks for that, Andrew. I do try to tell it like it is! There's no way I would swap my little ADV350 for this - twice the price and half as good, imo :)
I bought an X-ADV yesterday and I'm loving it. This is a bike for people like me. I own a few bikes and they're all different - a Honda SH350i, a Kawasaki ZZR1400 and a Triumph Tiger GT Explorer. The first one is a great scooter but the lack of weather protection and lowish power makes it a bit difficult in the UK countryside. The ZZR is a bloody beast but then because of the commuting traffic I don't enjoy riding it to work. The Tiger is a great bike but getting on and off is like mounting a horse (especially with the boxes on). And here comes the X-ADV 750 - easy to get on and off, powerful enough so it doesn't feel like it's abused during overtakes, frugal and very high quality parts, put together very well. I'm loving it!!! And just to be honest, I'll share that a month ago I wouldn't even look at a bike like this but I guess the heart changes. Very good review! And yes - it's expensive.
Thanks for your feedback. Enjoy your new XADV😊
The Red SSR is a dream car ❤
:)
Excellent review Sir Rocketman!
I have an ADV350 on order and your review helped me come to this conclusion, so thank you!
It seems Honda have big delays on these and delivery date has now been pushed back another 6 months.
Would you consider a used XADV at the same price as a new ADV350 a higher rocketscore?
I’m in 2 minds, but my gut says to grit my teeth and wait for the 350 fart machine.
Thanks for your thoughts and keep up the excellent reviews🙌🏽
I really wasn't impressed by the X-ADV - it's too expensive and has half the under-seat storage of the 350. So, in answer to your question: no, I would take the 350 every time, regardless of price :)
I’m desperate to get one of these. No idea why, I just NEED one. I feel it would compliment my GS nicely. I did have a NC750 DCT for 18 months and loved the gearbox. I trust your opinions so I’m a little gutted! I hoped you’d enjoy it 😎👍🏻I’m still going to get one though 😉
Oops. It’s not a bad bike, but it’s like sitting on the 350 and riding the NC750X. And €13,000..?!😳
@@RocketMan_Moto wow that was quick, I’m still watching it 🤣 Any idea why Honda are so anti Cruise Control?! My PCP deal is up for renewal on the GS so I was looking at an Africa Twin as want DCT but the smaller AT has tubes tyres. Ok that’s my Honda rant over 😉👍🏻 thanks for the video RM
Hope it was of some use :)
10/10.
EXCELLENT.
Thanks, Terry :)
I have an NC 750 DCT previous model, just love it can do touring easily and gave me 70 to 80 mpg imperial. Was considering X-ADV demo or barely used 2nd hand now having 2nd thoughts. Still not tested so I will test 350 X-ADV and 750 X-ADV to compare. keep hearing of 750 Trans-Alps DCT but Honda will probably get around to this when the internal combustion engine has been banned.
Might consider the new CB500X as another option and it is in the top 7 Rocket Score . Honda has really made a great DCT box. I often use it in semi-automatic (manual) when I need to hold the revs a little longer getting to 50 mph (80kmh). If only it had cruise control it would be an excellent economical tourer
Really useful review. those who have 750- X ADV rave about it, but I wouldn't pay 11000 sterling on brand new when I have NC 750 DCT.
Personally, I would see the X-ADV as a downgrade if you're already riding the NC. The fact that it's also a lot more expensive is absurd. Ride safe :)
Hi, I'm not sure, I agree with everything you've said.
I have a 2018 Xadv and when you take into account how quickly it'll change gear it's not much slower a normal Adventure bike.
The one you were testing was missing the optional footpegs which give it the riding style of a bike instead of a scooter.
I've ridden mine across wet muddy tracks and grass stood up and with the pegs it makes much more sense.
The Xadv for me does everything I need it to.
Once you start to push on the more premium brakes/forks really come into their own and it'll happily keep up with most bikes in a lot of situations.
I've toured on mine fully loaded where the lazy engine makes for a relaxing time.
I would like a little bit more storage under the seat but I'd sacrifice that for handling and stability the bike has.
I agree with much of what you say. The main issue I have with this bike is its price, especially compared to the very similar N750X. Ride safe😊
Thhanks. I appreciate your highly pragmatic and straightforward approach.
Have you tried the NC750X with dct?
In theory it aims at ticking most of the boxes of BOTH scooter and motorcycle worlds...
Yes, and I prefer the NC. I just wish they’d give us a new version with the 750cc engine from the Hornet/Transalp
This is a very true explanation and description of the sense of the XADV. But it is selling very well. Maybe because it's so outstanding. The only real advantage in comparison to the ADV is the more power for driving on highways. Driving over the landscape the ADV is powerful enough.
I agree the sales figures would suggest it's a good bike, but I was expecting something a little more fun. It's very heavy :(
@@RocketMan_Moto I felt the same when driving the NC750 with DCT... too heavy for that engine. A new Tenere T7 felt much more easy to drive although it has a 21'' front wheel, but the engine was much more powerful and quick. I switched the DCT into the 2nd sport mode. The normal mode was much too laisy
Yep, the Tenere is much more fun. The NC750 is good, but I personally want more excitement from a bike. Otherwise, I'd rather just take the car...
Well said RM. This is only an expensive toy, without anything to offer. For an all rounder I would buy an Africa Twin. Lot more to offer, and even a DCT engine for the ones coming from a scooter....
Cheers, V.
Cheers, Valerio😊
When I took the X-Adv in for a service I test rode the Africa Twin. My first impression was heaving it off the center stand. It feels way heavier than the X-Adv. That low slung center of gravity on the x-adv hides it's weight well. The DCT on the AT seemed rough in comparison in any mode. The AT was way more powerful and very fast in comparison and can go off-road. The thing is the X-Adv can not really be compared like-for-like with anything. It is creating its own category. The AT is a MORE expensive toy so on price surly you would take the X-Adv.
The AT isn't really a toy, though, it's a full-on motorbike capable of taking you around continents. I agree about the ADV 350's centre stand: I've stopped using it, lol
The AT is a very imposing bike physically, but I don't find it that bad height wise
Hi V,aren't all bikes expensive toys to most of us?,only the minority that use them all year round to commute on would be exempt from describing their bikes as toys.As for travelling across continents id rather take an x adv than a full blown 1200cc adventure bike,fuel economy for one,but mine is far comfier than my superten was,my only small gripe is chain and not a belt which i think would of been far superior.I juggled with an AT adventure sports but went for the fuel economy and cheaper servicing,also i personally love the look of the ADV,i am still trying to bump into another owner but as yet never seen another onnroad in uk.
Had a test ride today on a adv 350 and a x adv 750 and out of the two I would have the adv 350. Came back with a numb bum and bad back on the x adv. The adv 350 was great, the dealer told me you wouldn't see one until May 23!!! That's why I bought a RA SCRAM
Lead times on the ADV are insane🙄
I agree with the comments.
For me the most noticeable thing for me is the tubeless spoked wheels.
If they can develop them for this, then why not the cb500x? And will the new rumoured nx500 have tubeless spokes? Hope so.
Good one
Happy travels 👍
Good point👍
Cb500x is a cheaper bike tubeless spoked wheels are not cheap.
not even the tubeless spoke wheels would save the CB500X from looking hideous ;)
This perspective of how it doesn't make sense when you try to dissect the market segments is something I found myself agreeing to. The target may be the so-called 'spec-sheet warriors' who might optimistically see this machine as the ultimate jack of all trades.
Cheers.
Agreed - on paper it looks appealing, but in reality it's really very uninspiring
Great video. I would like your opinion for the Honda Super Cub 125 model 2022, because it is also an expensive (for cub) bike. You think it deserves 4.000 euros or not. I appreciate your opinion.
Good idea. Unfortunately, my dealer doesn’t have a demonstrator😩
I haven't ridden the X-ADV 750, I currently own an Africa Twin Adventure Sport with DCT. Most of the reviews I have come across seem to like the ADV they say it's fun to ride and a good bike, I agree it is alot of money, but look at the yamaha TMAX 560 Tech Max that costs even more and has a very loyal fan base and both Honda and Yamaha have sold a lot of these machines, clever marketing? or good bikes that some people will pay the money for? Thankfully we are all different and can make our own choice.
I agree about the T-Max, although it feels much faster than this X-ADV. This DCT seemed much ‘better tuned’ than the one I tried on the NT😊
@@RocketMan_Moto what is much faster?
If you want an "Adventury"-ish big displacement scooter that does more than a regular scooter then it is absolutely for you. I would get a sportbike but my license grade doesn't allow for anything higher than 47HP (there's a governed version of the XADV locally). You also get the nice DCT actual gear change feeling instead of a crappy-drone-y variator that blows your ears after 15 minutes on the highway at over 110kmh. The XADV is not for everybody, matter of fact it is not for most people, but I think Honda nailed it for a very small part of the population who need exactly this motorcycle.
Thanks for your feedback
I agree with all your points. I have owned both. Well the Forza 750 rather than the X-ADV, however it is 95% similar.
The two crucial points are, (and you make these):
Is the X-ADV worth twice the price of the ADV350?: No.
Is the performance very different? No. Most people will not notice a 0-60 time of 5sec, being significantly different to a 0-60 time of 7sec.
Would you rather have a CVT scooter with no weekly chain maintenance? I would.
If you like DCT, as Rocket points out, the NC750 is much better value. Be aware you are paying £1000 extra for this transmission, and its adding 10kg to your kerb weight. (The NC750 is also available - manual).
All good points. Thanks for your comment :)
ThanKs just saved me a drama I sat on the only available Honda 350 and just didn’t get on with it prefer my 500x like the practical design of the nc750 but unable to buy new In my country it’s probably going to be the new 2022 500x. The triumph tiger 850 sport is great but the price deference of the Honda is hard to justify.
I would take a CB500X over this X-ADV and spend the difference on a 2-wekk holiday in the Caribbean :)
Enjoyed this, a mature outlook on the 750. If the use of this bike was for a mix of local use including commuting with 1 or 2 tours abroad, i think id go for the nx500 over this. Also id take the adv 350 over this also for a few obvious reasons including more storage and the fact that the 350 is motorway competent
Thanks. There’s no way this X ADV is worth twice the ADV 350
The sales figures for this bike in Europe are astonishing talking to the main Honda dealer in Croydon
I know. The weird thing is that I never see any on the road and I’ve lived in mainland Europe for 35+ years
I like it but the price is ridiculous
@@RocketMan_Moto I've seen many of them in Barcelona. Never outside the city, though.
Exactly. Another subscriber has told me that in SE Asia they're pretty much the same price as the NC750X, which makes a lot more sense
I see a lot when I'm in Paris too, although they're France's N°1 stolen bike :(
You got to love the chevrolet. Actually we have one in our pretty small town in sweden, A yellow one with the text Falty towes written all over it, because it sertely need more to stand out beside that........pretty.......face :D
Lol😂
Grate bike
But too expensive, imo
XADV 750 is a maxi scooter, and it is today the fastest and strongest, beating the number one of this category Yamaha Tmax. You are completely right that for the same money of a maxi scooter you can get a much better bike, same is true for Tmax and all other maxi scooters. As a senior motorcyclist the maxi scooters for me are only a bathtub on wheels.
I think scooters and bikes complement each other
Ok guys, i got a brand new 2023 xadv 3 days ago. First of all, it has nothing similar with adv 350. İ'm breaking in the Bike, so i drive in the normal mode... 0-100 km in normal mode is 5 seconds, which makes it a fast bike. Shock absorbers are very good, still nothing like adv 350. Sound is great, breaks are better, tyres are larger, way more powerful. If you have money, don't waste time with adv 350, get a xadv...
Thanks for your feedback. Enjoy!
Hi Rocketman great video, My problem with this its as big and heavy as a normal motorcycle not to mention the price. To me if you want a true scooter a Vespa 300 super sport is the true scooter and here in the States its $ 8,000 and change. Bikes like that 750 are still motorcycles with alternate bodywork.
I agree, Leonard: it's too expensive and too heavy
Excellent review, thank you 👍 do you thing the ADV will be good for beginners as first bike!? Cheers from Serbia ✌️🇷🇸
Thanks. In terms of power (not scaring you too much) it's fine. The only thing you would need to check is the size: it's a very wide seat, so unless you're tall (>175cm??), it could be a bit difficult for an inexperienced rider :)
@@RocketMan_Moto I am 1,83 cm and should go soon to Honda dealer to try the ADV and the NC 750x so i will know 😉, thanx a lot ✌️
183 should be fine. I’m 186👍
Hi RM, Where to start, I owned a 2019 X-ADV for two years and have to agree totally with your findings, for me, it was the most boring bike I've (ever) owned, the main thing for me is, they have to replace that 1/2 block JAZZ engine, it's just not suitable for a "motor bike" if you try using manual gear shifting, you hit the rev limiter all the time in any gear, as for riding outside of a town, you just do not have the oomph to make "safe" overtakes (perhaps that's a safety feature), although strangely, because you are very well protected from the elements, without realizing, I always found myself doing (on open roads) 90mph and 40+mph in 30 zones (not so safe). Regarding comfort, because of the that protection from the elements, I thought it might make (with luggage) a good bike for touring, however, as you mentioned, with that feet forward, 90⁰ knee seating position, you are holding yourself with your back, and after about 30min it really made my back ache, so for me that even ruled out using it as a touring machine. As for manhandling, at 79 years old, I found it one of the better bikes to push around and into my garage (the worst being a VFR CrossRunner). As Nakross done, for perspective comparison, I will list my previous bikes:-
1959 125 Vespa (came off 4 times)
1980 Honda CX500 (scared me in the rain)
2000 Suski 250
2001 ER5
2002 Honda CBR 650
2003 Honda Hornet 900 (owned for 10years, my best bike)
2013 Honda VFR CrossRunner (worst bike I've ever had)
2015 Tiger 800 XRX
2019 Honda X-ADV
2021 Tiger 900 GT PRO (current, best bike after Hornet)
Cheers, Gordon
Thanks for your feedback, Gordon. Good to know that I am not the only one to find this bike way more boring than it should be
@@RocketMan_Moto Thank you RM, Yes. I do in general like Honda as the quality is "usually" good and they have plenty of dealerships here in East Kent, however, I was hoping they would replace that JAZZ engine (which for its capacity, it's power is way below other 750cc engines) with a small capacity AT engine, instead, they bring out that non-descript NT1100, which to me doesn't seem to fulfill any particular market segment (no shaft drive etc), I would have thought that a much improved engine would have made the NC/X-ADV range much more competitive and popular, and they would have sold far more bikes than a few NT1100's. Thats my rant over, the big question is --- why the heck did I buy that really, really expensive bike, it must have been a moment of senile madness !!! 👴Cheers, Gordon
Haha, I think we’ve all bought bikes and then regretted it. Hindsight gives 20-20 vision, as they say😊
Hey RM, thanks for this and the previous ADV350 review. I looked at both at the Honda dealer 2 days ago. I'm replacing my BMW C650 GT, which looked great, had massive storage, but was heavy and ultimately unreliable. So, which did I choose? Well, why does anyone buy a scooter? No. 1 is storage. Why has the X-ADV got that huge waste of space over the rear wheel? It could have a massive storage instead. If it had, I may have bought it, but the ADV350 was the winner. I pick it up on Tuesday 😂
Great choice. The 350 is ultimately more practical and costs half what the 750 does. No brainer for me👍😊
I am currently riding the same bike as you (XL750) and am considering a scooter or DCT to remove the need for changing gear. I am 69 and have Arthritis.
I am interested in the X-ADV but a bit put off when you made me realise how expensive it is, for what it is.
I am currently working out a price comparison with the NC750x DCT which does not have some of the gear that is standard on the X-ADV, I will share when done.
I have read your review of your ADV350 and it sounds great for what I want. But when I sat on one the handlebars felt a little too close (6' 1") for me.
One thing that puts me off scooters is the lack of the fuel tank to wrap your legs around for added control.
The other thing that is bugging me is the Roadsync app and the dash on the XL750 are so good that I am reluctant to change.
Now if they brought out an XL750 DCT maybe...What do you think?
Scooters are great once you get used to 'not having a tank', I certainly couldn't do without ours. They can feel a bit cramped after a 'normal' bike, but again, you do get used to it. Personally, I think this X-ADV (or the Forza 750) are ridiculously expensive for what they offer. The NC750X is a much more tempting proposition, but try the ADV / Forza 350 first to see which suits you best.
@@RocketMan_Moto OK, thanks. I did ride scooters 50 yrs ago and loved them for simplicity and customising.
I did the NC750x DCT comparison.
The NC came out at £9170 when spec'd to same level as the Forza 750/X-ADV, £10400/£11200.
However, the NC doesnt have the TFT dash/Roadsync which I am prepared to pay £500 for, similarly wire wheels £500, comfy seat £250.
Now the total is £10420. This is how I justify buying bikes.
As you can see the NC is now more expensive than the Forza and quite close to the X-ADV.
So for me if the F or X are much more comfy, or have better ergos, they would be a possibility for me
The obvious alternative is to buy a used F or X,
eg Forza 2021 £8000
eg X-ADV 2020 £9000 (full luggage)
eg X-ADV 2018 £6500 (old dash)
This all gets thrown out the window if I was happy with the 350's, F or A £5900
A lot to think about especially as i like the looks of the 350s and they have very good lights, important to me.
Time for a lot of test rides and a lot of thinking.
Nice dilemma to have, though😊 For what it’s worth, I have Roadsync on my Transalp but never use it. I find it very basic compared to an iPhone/Google Maps fastened to the bars with a Quadlock mount.
@@RocketMan_Moto Yes, Roadsync is quite basic but I am happy with its simple graphics and have it linked to my Sena headset for vocals using Google Maps. I do have the means to attach my TomTom Rider 550 for better visuals but never seem to get around to it. Interesting to hear different points of view. Hoping to do some test rides tmoz. X-ADV n ADV350.
Rode the X-ADV and absolutely loved it. The only things that bothered me a bit were the high foot boards and lack of a tank to wrap your legs around. I did not feel like I was in total control unlike my Transalp 750.
Im sorry i dont agree with alot you said about the x adv 750,i swopped my yammy super ten 1200 for a 2022 model earlier this year and i love it,i love the dct it changes perfectly,never had it in the wrong gear,one of the main plus points you never touched on is the amazing fuel consumtion,mine is averaging 77mpg,i did consider a second hand africa twin but the fuel consumtion swung my choice to the x adv.the one thing that niggles me is the build quality particularly underneath as i found a few spots on the chassis and centre stand that the powder coating had completely missed,and checking the coolant is a pain as you have to take two body panels off to see the level.my advice is try to get a test ride and you will be surprised.
Thanks for your feedback, Simon. If you're happy with your X-ADV, then that's great. It's not a bad bike, it's just overpriced, imho. Ride safe :)
I just don’t get what the bike is for? Spot on with your review.
I thought I was going to enjoy it, but it's a lot more ordinary to ride than you might imagine
This is probably the first negative review for X-ADV. I never had a test ride on this bike, but from the looks feels the most desired 2wheel vehicle. 4 months ago i had a test ride of your scooter(ADV 350) and it was a bittersweet experience that dint mach yours. The big minus that you never mentioned is zero wind protection from the windshield(am 1.82) and the horrible rear suspension that the whole scooter was shaking at every small or big pothole!
*my back still remembers every detail
I found the suspension much more compliant than on my ADV350
I do wonder what market Honda was targeting...maybe comparable to the SUVs that can't off-road market?
A very odd decision, yes
For a scooter driver, it's obvious why a comparison like this is senseless. It starts with how you "enter" the motorbike. I'm in the lucky situation to own a Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro, a Vespa 300 HPE and an X-ADV. Because for people who want only one to ride in the city, off-road (only with the extra pegs and no single trails), and go on tour, the X-ADV is a great and funny crossover motorcycle. But okay, everyone should be happy with that what he owns.
If you’re enjoying your X ADV, then great
I've seen them very frequently here in Asia with shorter riders with a topbox. They pull much faster than my lazy ass shifting fz6. They're nice looking imo. If you really want answer on why people ride them, then you'd have ask the people who commutes with it. I guess Honda saw the niche and just went with it.
I know they are very popular in many markets. Maybe they're priced differently?
@@RocketMan_Moto Nope, the price disparity is similar as you've mentioned. They're almost as popular as the NC series. I have ridden them once from a buddy after he traded in his NC750 for the x-adv750dct. My experience was as good as yours. He simply said he loved the look and feel of the bike. So much so that he even adventurerised it with crash bars, fogs lights etc. His previous bikes were small displacement scooters. Maybe something to think about. It's a "You just don't get it" type of deal.
Yes, I think you either love it or hate it. I don't hate it, I just can't see the point, especially given the price
I think lowering the seat or lower seat option is available. Don't know how that's done by links or otherwise !
A much better option could be the forthcoming Sym ADX400 adventure with an engine mounted between the frame rails at the front ( like a TMax ) and a rear swingarm & mono shock & 40ish HP and similar looks.
Yes, I’m looking forward to testing that
I like that red Chevy! The riding position is transformed by the accessory footpegs. It doesn't feel like a scooter then. I agree 13,000 euros is too much. I am thinking of buying a two/three-year-old Mk1 for just over half the price of a new one in Thailand, for use in the far north. Good to be able to have three foot positions. And in the rain you can keep your feet dry. Always a consideration in a tropical country.
I agree with your final point: in Portugal, it makes sense to have a new NC and an ADV350. Good thinking, RM. And a good video.
In a fortnight, I'll be back.
Edit: If the ADV350 is 6,500 euros, how can one of those and an NC DCT equal the price of the X-ADV 750? Surely the NC isn't only 6,500 euros in Portugal.
The NC is about €8000
@@RocketMan_Moto Surely not the DCT model.
Checked it. Almost 9,700 euros for the NC750 X DCT model in Portugal. In Thailand, there isn't much of a price difference between the X-ADV and NC DCT: 65,000 baht/1,800 euros, making the X-ADV a reasonable proposition, given its higher spec.
Ah ok, that explains why so many are sold in Asia. Here in Europe the X-ADV is ridiculously expensive :(
Is the 350 ok 2 up?
Excellent, especially with the backrest I put on ours. My wife has never really enjoyed riding with me before, but she really likes the ADV (with the backrest)
I have a little Vision primarily for carrying on the motorhome but underpowered 2 up. The 350 would be ideal then
We had a Vision 110 and loved it. It was just too 'little' for trips longer than a couple of miles, though, and as you say it's a struggle 2 up. The ADV 350 is much better, although also much heavier, so getting it on a motorhome might prove difficult
The XADV I test rode didn’t have the foot pegs, on motorway speeds I felt really unstable with my legs/feet forward. If they removed the footboards and just had pegs, the boards were also too narrow for my size 11 feet. Overall I liked it, but as you say the price is too high.
Interesting. I found it very stable, but I didn't take it on the motorway (there's only one down here). My feet are size 10, and were ok, but I'm used to the cramped boards on the ADV 350. Price is way too high for what the bike offers, though, that's for sure :)
@@RocketMan_Moto yes very stable in towns and on A,B roads but doing 70 plus on the M3 made me nervous, perhaps because I don’t ride scooters and am not used to the geometry.
They do feel quite different to a 'proper' bike. My ADV350 felt a bit wobbly for the first few days, even though it wasn't my first scooter.
You should try driving it with your feet on the optional footpegs. It becomes much closer to a normal bike and less of a scooter.
I've heard that, but unfortunately the test bike didn't have them
Do you recommend the ADV 350 over the Forza 350?
They're very similar, one is no better than the other and tbh it really just depends you personally think looks better.
Insane you could get an ADV350 and a CB500X / NC750 for the same price as one of these?
I agree
@@RocketMan_Moto I found your review exceptionally useful. I've got an Africa Twin AS, a bike I fell in love with years ago. Picked mine up in January. It's a fabulous bike but as a daily it's big, tall and heavy!! The X-ADV 750 seemed like a good compromise but as you pointed out, it's crazy expensive!! I'm seriously tempted by the NC750 DCT as it seems like a perfect weekday slogger but you could also use it for weekends and touring. And it's great value. I'm touring on the AT this Summer but will be testing other models in the Autumn. May also try an ADV350.....!
Thanks, Simon. The Africa Twin is waaay better than this X-ADV, and for not much more money. The X-ADV does sell well, but I am really struggling to see why - it's not very powerful, not especially comfortable, can't carry much luggage, is chain driven, difficult-to-adjust windscreen, and overpriced. My 'little' ADV350 makes much more sense, I would recommend you try it :)
What you did miss is what it come as standard compared with the NC750X, Centre stand , double disk front braking , self adjusting wind screen temperature gauge on display and better,TFC display , just saying
Doesn't seem like much given the price difference with the NC750X
@@RocketMan_Moto once you add the keyless tec and G mode your getting there
On say all that I’m going back to the NC750X in September LOL
I disagree with your opinion sertently about the power, yes it's expensive, but don't compare it to adv 350 I own previous vertion and power is enough we went around Wales with my mates on vfr and they struggle to keep up, I use this bike for everything commuting around the town fun ride in twesties and touring long distances,,, I previously own buj bikes all sorts off and this is best bike I had for everything! Handling is very good I think you just don't have skills to actually check capabilities of this mashine! You have right to your opinion i apretiate your effort. You scored this bike very low.... I think you have difrent explanation.... I love my x adv for its looks I think looks like nothing there adv 350 looks cheap to me I woudl not buy it... Breaks and handling of 750 xadv is great too comfort is also great done 1200 miles in 4 days and no discomfort at all comers to my friends on their sports tourers. Economy also is very good done 200 miles on 10.5 liters of fuel..... Storage well you can get top box amd pa iers from givi and kappa and taht will cost you around 500 pounds for everything! Storage under seat is enough for shoping I have oem top box amd kappa paniers and I have lots of storage! I love this bike I had it for 7 moountgs now and done over 5 k miles I love it is easy to ride and you can do anything on it very well even light offroad!about the price well in uk you can get second hand ones for 6 k or 2021 with less then 1k miles for 9.5 k I woudl 100 times prefer used x adv 750 with small milage then new 350 if I woudl want to buy Scotter for only town is no point buying 350 125 is plenty! 750 is more power full and cvt belt is well to not use bad words I don't see a point! On xadv you can change gears as well amd you have 4 mods amd traction control and gravel mode suspention and breaks are much better then nx 750 x and in my opinion looks like nothing made yet.... Sales shows that honda had very good success with this. Bike that is the reason why they made your 350 adv in the first place,, you can't rewiew really bike unless you own for at least 6 months and do some serious ridding!
Thanks for your feedback. If you like your X-ADV then that's great. I continue to think it is way too expensive for what it offers. Ride safe :)
@@RocketMan_Moto yes it's expensive you right about that! Thanks
The question is if the 750 is so much more capable on gravel compared to the 350 that it will justifice the price?
It probably is a little better, thanks mainly to the electronics and better suspension, but I'd still rather buy a proper off-road bike, if that's what I was in to
@@RocketMan_Moto I like this both bikes because a mixed bag so to speak. It something between a cruiser, scooter and offroad bike. I need to have my feet's forward to have a comfortable riding position but the prices for this bikes are set quite high. A 350 cc bike 6500 euro and 13000 euro for a 750 :-) Thanks for good comparement between this two bikes.
Personelly I would like to see a Honda Sh 500 with a normal motorcycle handlebar with some offroad capablebility😀
I know this isn't the point of the video, but I am now looking to see where I can buy a Chevrolet SSR.
Lol, I must confess that when I was looking for the HD photos of the SSR, I did find myself actually wanting one, too (a bit) :)
hello I don't know what to believe because I listened to you in my research as a beginner I took the NC 750x 2023 last year good to start but disappointed with the quality of the materials people really talk about it but where I don't agree with you you say that the double disc front brake like the nt 1100 it has the inverted fork and better quality trim etc.... afterwards I bought the NT 1100 which is much better in all respects than the nc 750 x but too big and heavy for me especially since I am in Thailand and it gets a little too hot and the roads are bad so I go back to the starting point where I look again at the comparison between the xadv and forza 350 and the same thing in 750 and this time if I I have a hard time trusting you with my new choice since if I hadn't listened to you from the start I think I would have lost less money taking my first idea which was the xadv 750 but hey I'm not throwing stones at you because that your videos are well done and interesting but I think that you take too much of a side just by your personal opinion which can still be different for each of us with different desires and different needs I would add to finish that I would never buy another nc again 750 x whose fork was changed at 7000 km because it was completely rusted and has its fabulous DCT engine the rest of the parts are really too cheap it ages very badly and if you put the same options on it as on the last XADV it costs well over same price ! so it's not a gift for those who think of doing as you say a deal by taking the nc 750 x instead of the xadv much better equipped brake fork etc........... the only positive point of the nc 750x It made me discover the world of motorcycling quietly and easily!
Thanks for your input. I can only review bikes from my perspective here in Portugal. Specifications, local taxes and road & climatic conditions inevitably have an impact on choosing the best bike in other countries😊
I test rode the original X-ADV...I wasn't excited. I think what you say is quite correct. The NC750 series (X/X-ADV/Forza) are just NOT FUN to ride. Personally I dislike the plodding NC engine and wasn't impressed by the super-duper hi-tech DCT that you were always wondering what it was doing and why. I've owned lots of Tmaxs (OK, they don't go off-road!), but whilst Yamaha build quality is declining and reliability has been unimpressive, they are SO much fun to ride. I keep thinking that I ought to trade it in for a Forza 750 but I just can't persuade myself!
Thanks for your feedback, Tim. I completely agree: this 750 engine is very uninspiring. I’ve tried it in the Forza, NC and X-ADV… and bought an ADV 350. Half the price, twice as practical and almost as fast
So Tmax above Xadv?
I am gutted I got the Forza 350 instead of the ADV 350. The problem with the bigger scooters is the price and Yamaha T-Max Tech Max €16,999.00 & the Honda Forza 750 is €13,299.00 basic.
Those big scooters are ridiculously expensive, imo. The Forza 350 is just as good as the ADV😊
@@RocketMan_Moto The Honda Forza/ADV 350 is 29.2 HP (21.5 kW) and the T Max is 46.94 HP (34.3 kW), while the Forza/X-ADV 750 is 43.1kW / 57.7 hp. The price of the X-ADV is €14,499.00 without anything like off-road stand up pegs or booth or panniers or heated grips so really the price is more like €15,499.00 if you want an adventure bike or a commuter bike. The Yamaha is very over priced for is size with no booth or panniers.
Good points👍
How (why) on earth is that so heavy? My Tiger 800 XRT is 'only' 225kg.
I was surprised too. And you can feel the weight in low-speed manoeuvres😬
@@RocketMan_Moto I can imagine. What an odd decision by Honda to make this machine, and with all the other factors and options for other bikes for much less money it just seems such a pointless, overpriced vehicle. I'll stick to my Forza 300.
Most competitors have similar weight...MAXSYM TL 508 TCS 227kg, YAMAHA TMAX 560 220kg.., etc
Sorry but you're wrong. This is the best bike I've owned and I've had a lot.
A scooter feels like it's got a hinge in the middle, the front and back wheels feel completely disconnected.
The X ADV rides like a motorbike. Looking at your test route I can understand how you didn't appreciate that.
I wouldn't ride a scooter, no way. But I love my X ADV.
It's a lot of fun on on a twisty road here in Scotland, a brilliant tourer with better comfort and storage than a motorcycle. It's superb.
The important thing is that you like it. For me, it’s too expensive and underpowered, but not to worry. Thanks for your feedback and enjoy😊
@@RocketMan_Moto You should've rode it on a twisty road. Nobody needs more power than this. Acceleration at 60 mph is plenty enough to overtake.
A BMW GS is too expensive, nearly double the X ADV. You see plenty bikes that money.
I'm sure the 350 is a good bike, but this wasn't a fair unbiased review.
As I said, if you believe it to be a good bike, then great, but for me, it's a definite no
@@nigelren3719 53 hp from a 750 is pretty pathetic
Decent torque, though👍
750 ? Why ?
Differences between X-ADV and NC750X.
- well better brakes
- well better electronics and customisation
- better frame, solid forks
- DCT technology
- better design. First on/off scooter ever! (that's subjective. It's my opinion)
That's why the cost is higher when comparing these two bikes.
At the end you say that the price difference of 5k is huge..when comparing a full extra bike with a standard.
Also, you should never compare 350 with 750 cause as you said in the intro, xadv was on the adventure list.
350 is a scooter, not a bike.
Lastly, your 1 point for value was bitter af. 😂
Thanks for your feedback. I continue to think the X ADV is far too expensive for what it offers, but if you believe you’ve spent wisely, then great😊
@@RocketMan_Moto I agree with you that is an expensive bike. Though, it's not exaggerate. In the last decade, scooters tend to be overpriced.
Make a price comparison between adv 350 (5800GBP) and NC750X (7800GBP).
I think the reason for success of xadv are; if one does not like normal manual bike, me for example, can't be bothered with foot pegs, clutch and foot gear change, also can't sit on my balls all day at my age, scooters are great option .now I have 300 forza, great, but bored with , going to 350/400 not much of upgrade. so what's out there, BMW,tmax, burgman 650 !? they are big,heavy, and expensive too , and I bet not as much fun as xadv, did you try manual downshift override ...? no CVT can do that. also not sure why so expensive there, p.s. I prefer forza 750, but not available here
Good points. Thank you👍😊
HONDA, bring this to the USA!!!!
It's a real shame you don't get these maxi scooters
Well, i understand your point of view....but... Don't think you mentioned the great shocks the 750 has (if I'm not mistaken matches the African twin's). In my opinion there is no comparison between the 350 and the 750 as one is a scooter and the other one is just awesome (yes, i have one) :D. Only problem of the DCT engine is the low speed constant gearing (you can resolve that by switching to manual gears). And no, the problem of picking the NC 750 X (even being much cheaper) is.... it's an horrible looking bike (in my opinion). The windscreen on the adv also is amazing at any speeds. It's super comfortable cruising and highways to do any kind of distance. I'm very happy with it (i have the previous model but there is not much difference). It is an heavy bike for the constant stopping inside the city, but has a low center of gravity, so very agile to maneuver. Go on....switch your 350 for the 750 ;)
DCT on this refreshed X-ADV is updated. Most reviews find it excellent, except this one.
I agree the suspension is much more compliant than the crashy ADV350. As you say, the DCT 'box is clunky around town, which is where most scooters are designed to go...
Perhaps I should just say everything is amazing, like most TH-camrs?
@@RocketMan_Moto not everything... just the X-Adv 750 ..hehe ;)
At last a review that is not 110% positive about this. Other minus in france, it is the most stolen bike
Eh oui, malheureusement. Le vol de motos en France est un véritable fléau🙁
@@RocketMan_Moto si on avait que ça :)
Eh oui, je suis de loin les autres débats : prix du carburant (c'est pareil ici, remarque), contrôle technique, stationnement payant dans Paris... Parfois je me dis que l'administration serait plus heureuse si plus personne n'existait ;)
Tiens t'es là toi lol
Who the hell buys this scooter/bike at 13000euro?? That price is outrageous!!! I wouldnt pay a cent more than 7k for it
Exactly
Cud you tour the the world on it
You could, but I wouldn’t
@@RocketMan_Moto top speed pls.
Didn’t get chance to test that sorry
No KTM'S ?
No dealer here
I have also tested this on track, and it was not very fun because of the weight and DCT. Too expensive and too less cargo capacity for a touring scooter. ADV 350 much better deal.
I agree👍
Xadv is easy to use and big engine
It's easy to ride, but I wouldn't call the engine big :)
Possesseur d'une triumph scrambler 1200 xe Steve Mcqueen édition et d'un XADV 2022, je ne suis pas du tout d'accord avec vos remarques au sujet du X-ADV 2022.
Vous étiez de mauvaise humeur le jour de votre test du X-ADV ? Lol
J'ai eu la NC 750x 2021 que j'ai revendu au bout de 3 mois parce que : la qualité des suspensions étaient vraiment mauvaises surtout en duo, la petit bulle ne protège absolument pas, les pneus étaient dangereux sous la pluie, le seul disque de frein à l'avant ne freine pas très fort.
Mise à part, le moteur que je trouve fabuleux avec la boite DCT, j'ai vraiment été déçu par la NC 750X.
Depuis, j'ai acheté le XADV 2022 qui est un véritable succès commercial à travers le monde que ce soit en France, Italie,...
Alors le comparer à une voiture américaine qui ne sait pas vendu, je trouve ça " fort de café ".
Mise à part le moteur le XADV n'a pas les mêmes éléments que la NC750X, que ce soit les suspensions, la fourche, la bulle, la selle plus large, plus confortable, les freins nissin, les commandes, l'écran tft, la tenue de route plus précise, le carénage, les pneus bien meilleures sous la pluie.
A voir les critiques des journalistes, le dessin de la machine est une réussite esthétique (c'est un bureau d'étude italien qui a dessiné le XADV ainsi que l'Africa twin).
Alors oui, pour moi l'écart de prix entre la NC 750X et le XADV est en partie justifié.
Le XADV est plus fun, plus agile, plus technologique et surtout plus sécurisant.
Par contre, là ou je vous rejoints c'est que Honda exagère ces derniers temps avec les prix des options (packs) qui sont trop chères. Ca commence à devenir comme chez BMW avec les options hors de prix.
J'ai donc opté uniquement pour le top case Honda avec ouverture électrique " très pratique " qui s'accorde parfaitement avec la machine.
Bonne continuation et bonne journée sous le soleil de Portugal ;)
Merci pour le retour😊👍
Im starting on mc drivers license at February and can’t wait. I have been riding a 50cc Yamaha scooter the last 8-10 years, nothing wrong with the scooter, but I will never buy a scooter again. I absolutely hate riding scooter, they are so slow and they will suck the life out of you…
Lol, depends on the scooter. Some are pretty rapid. Good luck with your licence😊👍
It’s not a Triumph, mate 😜
It’s more expensive than my Triumph😂
HONDA CORPORATION IF YOU'RE WATCHING THIS BRING THE ADV350 TO AMERICA 🇺🇸 PLEASE! IF YOU DONT YOU'RE FAILING YOU'RE CUSTOMERS IN THE USA !
Lol, yes I don’t understand why the US doesn’t really do these maxi scooters🤔
Honda trying to charge Italian exotica money
Yes!
Meh. Neither fish or foul. Too heavy and slow. I'm sure it will be appealing to some. But not much of value and the look of a Scooter on steroids.
That just about sums it up
Bad mood today ?
Bad bike
@@RocketMan_Moto Just kind of different thing , Times are changing. Otherwise no quick shift would appear in maxi enduro queens , as an example . but anyway , different bikes for different needs, pourposes & preferences.
double the price is in no way justified, x adv 750 should not be over 10,000. There is no heated grips, cruise control... for such a high price, and all you get is higher consumption and 40 km/h more.
Agreed. Hopefully soon we'll get an X-ADV Mk 2 with the 750 engine from the Hornet/Transalp... and a lower price??
I believe your location might diminish one huge reason the 750 is so gorgeous - no scooter comes near its all round performance, they cannot by design but they can do carry 'things'. No, here in the UK , whatever the weather, my 750 pops to shops or slays hundreds of miles in dry warm comfort which I believe no scooter/naked bike can do? Yes more money has gone on panniers, totally outflanking any super scooter capacity so You bimbling around your 'very warm' billionaires paradise, I can see the 750 wasted! Regards.
Fair comment, but I continue to think it’s overpriced for what it offers. Now, if Honda put their new parallel twin 750 in the X-ADV, that might change my opinion. Ride safe😊
This is the first 'poor' review of it I've heard.
Just telling my viewers how I really feel😊
@@RocketMan_Moto Wasn't meant as a criticism. good to get an alternative opinion.
Glad you found it useful :)
I agree, it is overpriced compared to the 750x.
That's the main problem
Table is just unfair: 5/10 in quality for the Tracer 900 GT vs 7/10 for the NC750X. Not-a-chance. Owned several Honda and now the Tracer 900 GT. Just look at the swingarms. NC750X is china-poor quality. Even owners and Honda fanatics complain.
Not really sure why you’re getting so upset. It’s only a bit of fun. If you like your Tracer, then I’m happy for you😀👍
@@RocketMan_Moto Not upset at all, some Honda are a little bit overrated 🙂. Great channel, BTW, since day 1!.
Thanks :)
I thought NC and XADV are made in Thailand ? must be teething trouble with new XADV manufacture line
@@112deeps Some parts are horrible. Swingarm, some plastics, many metallic parts. In 2 years corrosion sets in. Around here people swap NC750 every 2 or 3 years. They look terrible after a very short time.
Just another Honda DN-01. Overpriced, unnecessary and I suspect it will be similarly short lived.
I agree, Philip
what a waste of space these are
Lol, that's one way of putting it :)
I have owned an x_adv 750 for a year now. I think you have not factored in an important aspect of it: it is great fun! And that is why Honda sell it (in large numbers). It is also more of an event compared to an NC750X. I have toured on it to and it does just great. The extra pegs are a must to ease one's legs.
The important thing is that you like it😊👍
This sells because it is a "SUV" so its neither perfect for montain neither for city, but it looks cool 🤷🏻♂️ so its a matter of personal prefference. And yes it does look cool and have enough punch for everyday rider, city... highway and if you want to go for picknick on the weekend at your nearest valley/town. Price is what it is just like any other SUV car
Thanks for your feedback👍😊