Of course you should. Vancouver has one of the mildest winters in Canada. Vancouver is often ranked annually as one of the most liveable cities in the WORLD! Houston isn't in the top 20 most liveable cities in the U.S. , while Baltimore ranks as one of the worst cities in the country.
only if they picked someone else, the Vancouver Grizzlies should've remained in Vancouver, and Vancouver is beautiful, its better than Memphis if you ask me
True but nobody was coming to their games, attendance was low AF and they got worse and worse each season they were in Vancouver. A weak Canadian dollar. There was no way they were gonna stay there. But I do think Steve could've handled it better lol
I'm from Vancouver and ik we shouldn't have drafted somone that openly said he didn't wanna play for us but he was maryland and conplaing about how it took 9 hours to get to vancouver and he so hype when he got traded to houston bruh that is still far away, he shouda just played like his rookie contract there like 2 years and if he hated it so much he could finna leave but just straight bitchin about at the draft n stuff is just disrespectful to Vancouver even canadains to
VINCE SAVAGE Teams don't stop being shitty until good players play on shitty teams. When Steve Nash went to the Suns, they were a shitty team. When MJ was drafted by the Bulls, they were shitty, same with Dirk and the Mavs, same with LeBron and the Cavs. Those players had fire and were true superstars because of the fact that they were willing to accept playing for lesser teams because they knew that they could lead and set the tone for the franchises. Steve Francis didn't have it in him and that's why he fizzled out of the league by 30.
@@imaratspal Well the Suns were far from "shitty", considering they made the playoffs every year back then, and were also an annual title contender during the Charles Barkley era. That and Steve Nash didn't even begin to make his mark, and become an elite player until he was traded to the Mavericks, where he finally got playing time that he wasn't going to get with Kidd being the Suns top point guard at the time for that matter either.
@@freakyfornash The Suns were one of the worst teams in the NBA the season before Nash went there as a free agent or do you have a different memory? You can try as hard as you can to spin it to help you sleep at night but the Suns were shit.
I mean the year the Suns drafted Nash in 96. But yes you're right about them being a shit team before they signed him (albeit did make the playoffs in 03, and pretty much tanked 04 to have cap space to sign him), if that's what you were referring to, and my bad in that case. But can you imagine if Vancouver had drafted him, what with the impact he'd have made there though, what with him being an actual Canadian for that matter too? He alone probably could have made that franchise decent, and saved them from moving in the process for that matter also!
Why's ok for teams to trade and dump players with no warning or anything but when a player says he doesn't want to play somewhere he gets shit from people like you.
Francis could have made a name for himself in a newly emerged franchise. Vancouver struggled to build a winning team but then they finally draft a good player and he pulls this...
Was really nice to see him in Vancouver at the grand primere of the Grizzlie truth. Good to hear his side and him helping investors to push for a team again in Vancouver along with Seattle.
That was one thing which made many players (besides the league's dregs's who would literally play for any team no matter how horrible a place, and situation it was) wanting absolutely nothing to do with that city at all, along with it being a small market (when it came to NBA standards) in a far away land. Hell, journeyman Doug West downed like 20 Heineken's when he found out he was traded there, and that was someone coming from Siberia esc. Minnesota for God's Sake! (L.O.L.!)
@@freakyfornash I suspect it's just the fact that it's a small market because no one particularly cares about basketball there. Very low black population - it's just 1.2%. Who are they going to hang out with? Whites, Chinese, Koreans, and Indians? I wouldn't call it any more faraway than Seattle.
I remember this. I'ts almost like when Rick Barry said he didn't want to play for any southern teams. Then added more insult to injury, when he ridiculed the way southerners talked, and their mannerisms, etc. He was very straight forward about that. Lol! Even though, I never really cared for Steve Francis that much. I can understand about the whole Mike Bibby being drafted the previous season part. Personally I wouldn't mind playing for Vancouver. The city is wonderful. Love their skyline, and there's plenty of culture, and great food all around, and etc. The winters are pretty mild also; surprisingly. At least compared to here in "cold ass" New York. Lol! Really love Vancouver. Great city.
That’s funny about Rick Barry because he and his sons all retired in Houston which is as southern as it gets. As for Steve, I enjoyed his time in Houston. He was athletic and a pleasure to watch. He helped bridge that gap between the time Hakeem and TMac. It came apparent that you probably can’t build a team around him around 04-05 so when the news came rip that McGrady wanted to play in Houston I was all for sending Stevie over there.
To understand Houston, you sort of have to experience it by coming down for some time. I think Houston is a better city than its being marketed. Great entertainment, bigger population, multiple suburbs (Katy, Woodlands, and Pearland to name a few). You’re an hour away from the gulf coast town of Galveston for the beaches and already got a great environment. Vancouver’s a great city in terms of scenery with mountains and magic winters. Both are great cities. It just depends on what you like.
@@KWCline91 Well Houston is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy more affordable compared to Vancouver. Vancouver is considered the most expensive city in North America beating the likes of LA and New York.
Well because he was considered to be the best player available at the time, who could both very well turn a franchise around, and had star power. That of which the (Vancouver) Grizzlies desperately needed at the time, and for their entire existence, but never quite truly had the whole brief period they played there though.
@@jcalm1 I know, but he and Francis could have made a sick backcourt together. It would have been sort of a throwback to the Isiah Thomas/Joe Dumars years too.
You would be happy if you're an Asian dude or a white hipster. There's no black people in Vancouver, so it would've been a very lonely experience for Francis.
@@realniggashit3 people who see everything through race and segregation are sad. Its a different country, Vancouver is the most multicultural city in North America. Do your research.
I blame management. They were an absolute joke. You have Odom and Davis sitting right there after Francis. See if you can make a trade back and get future unprotected first round picks in the deal.
Well not many NBA players knew much about it, and to them was a small market (for NBA standards) in a far away land with the high Canadian taxes. That of which made it very difficult to attract players who would want to play, and stay there for the long haul for that matter too.
Two things come to mind on the trade from Vancouver to Houston. 1) Vancouver made the mistake of drafting Francis. Not because he told them not to. But rather it was that the Grizzlies really had nowhere to out him after drafting Bibby, which he said in the video. If you had gotten someone else, then it could've worked out. But by picking Francis, you have two players that pose as dual-threat guards even though Francis was more athletic. 2) The trade to Houston was great. But the unfortunate thing about the trade was the timing. Things weren't gelling with Pippen and Barkley, who was also retired and Hakeem was near the end of his career. Had all that been done earlier like in 1996 or 1997, he would've complimented the Rockets to greater heights and they could've reached another NBA Finals in the 1990's. But in the end, the old players went out and then came new talent that was good, but never elite like the Lakers.
Francis is selected by the Vancouver Grizzlies 🐻number two overall in 99 Vancouver Trades Francis to Houston 🚀 in exchange for Othello Harrington Mike Dickerson Antoine Carr Brent Price and a few draft picks!!
If Steve Francis played his senior year in Maryland he still wouldn't likely avoided the whole debacle. Vancouver still had the second pick in the NBA draft in 2000. The draft was weaker as well. The Nets wouldn't have likely chosen him either as they already acquired Jason Kidd- and with their first pick selected Kenyon Martin. I think Francis should have acted more professionally and made the best out of the situation being selected by Vancouver though.
666mathew you got to remember Steve would’ve been far away from his family. Obviously both Houston and Vancouver are great cities. But that doesn’t matter what city is better. It was about what was best for Francis and Vancouver wasn’t it.
I dont think Steve Francis the millionaire gives a fuck about Annual Rankings bro, he just wanted to have a say in where his profession took him and I think every person deserves that.
@@KWCline91 Steve Francis ended up playing in China! Houston isn't that close to MD either. Besides, a rookie NBA player can afford to book a suite for their family at any high end hotel.
Steph Curry didn’t want to play for Oakland but look how that turned out for him. I would gladly accept any team that selects me. Maybe except Milwaukee 😂😂
Maybe he didn't exactly "want" to play there at the time, but it's not like he flat out refused to, like Francis did with the Grizzlies. Mike Bibby didn't either, but at least he sucked it up, and didn't put a gun to the franchise's head by forcing a trade though. Same was also the case with Damon Stoudamire who wasn't really crazy about the Raptors, but ended up being a decent player for that matter also, despite seemingly wanting to get out of Toronto A.S.A.P. though.
No other job does the best of the best at what they do have to be forced to go somewhere they don’t wanna be. Good on Steve for getting somewhere he was more comfortable.
The situation was handled poorly by everyone involved. Francis should've been more open minded and Vancouver should've had more direction. Even if they were gonna trade him - you could've told him to act happy until a trade was done. Not killing his trade value.
If the Grizzlies moved to Memphis around that time then Steve would've had nothing to whine or complain about he could've helped them win a championship but he was a total asshole and jerk for disrespecting the franchise who would've become a great team gosh does anyway feel sorry for what the Grizzlies had become
Toronto had Vince, Vancouver needed Francis. When he didn't go it was basically the end of that team. He wasn't anything great in the NBA though. Barely played 10 years. Didn't win.
People today are walking around Vancouver in Bibby & Abdur-Rahim jerseys. Bibby might actually be more well known in Vancouver than Sacramento because of that, and he played his most significant years in Sacramento.
Steve Francis: OH MAN I GOT DRAFTED BY VANCOUVER, NOW THEY GONNA CALL ME A LOSER! Vince Carter: HAHAHAH Loser you suck u got drafted by trash-couver LOL!
Instead of worrying about being a great player going into the league his first thoughts were how often he’d be able to get home to see family. Only a guy that was raised without a father would think like that.
Marques Williams not that it has to matter but at the time black canadians accounted for less than 1% of the vancouver population, perhaps this was part of the reason
9 hours from chicago to vancouver ? more like 4 hours. Vancouver is next to Seattle and Portland. would he complain about seattle or portland ? chicago houston is 2.5 hours flying time.
If you want to play in NBA, follow the team that drafted you and you can either sign to other teams once you hit as a free agent or you can either be traded, spoiled brat. If you stayed in Vancouver and accept that saying "this is where my destiny start, so let's do this and change this struggling franchise into a contender." You could be the face of Vancouver basketball and Memphis wouldn't gonna get a team in this days. So glad, you have a short career in the league.
Really thought he could have been more mature about it. You're huffing and puffing on a day in which everyone else is elated for achieving their dream. That attitude would haunt him his entire career and be his downfall.
You truly don't understand why tho. It's a different country...in addition to visas and that shit your basically paying taxes for two countries... It's why the NBA has never expanded into any other countries since then. Plus let's be honest the Grizzlies franchise in Vancouver sucked...Besides your logos and uniforms there was nothing redeemable about that franchise...I'm sure Vancouver the city is nice but that doesn't mean it'll be profitable for the NBA, You should blame the Front Office who drafted a player who said himself he did not want to play there...I mean it's a different sport but do you call Bo Jackson or John Elway selfish because they refused to play for the teams that drafted them with a high draft pick?
Everyone knows that if you play for a team in Vancouver you know you won't win a championship because the canucks and whitecaps never won a cup so that's why Steve Francis didn't want to play there are its a bad city
I don’t get the narrative of people not wanting to go to Vancouver. Memphis can’t be better and many American cities aren’t better like Salt Lake City for example lol
Yeah, but at least they are both part of the U.S.A.. That unlike Vancouver, which was a far away land, with a very weak NBA fanbase, and small market, with high taxes to boot, and might as well have been a foreign country to NBA players too.
I mean, we can sit here and say how Francis was an asshole or a selfish player or a baby for not wanting to play in Vancouver. And look - he was, even though I can understand why he wouldn't want to play in Vancouver... ...but come one, how much easier would the whole situation have been if the Grizzlies just didn't draft him? It wasn't look they had no idea and were blindsided after they drafted him. He told them he didn't want to play for them. It sucks, but at that point just pick another player, and it's not like the 1999 draft didn't have other good players: Baron Davis, Shawn Marion, Rip Hamilton, Lamar Odom were all top picks after Francis in that year's draft. There's not guarantee that any of them would like it in Vancouver and would stay past their rookie contract, but at least you have a chance of making it work with any of them.
Raise ur hand if u hate Vancouver. I would've been pissed going there because they drafted Mike Bibby the year before. They both play the same position. Vancouver is too damn cold and it's in Canada. He shouldve went to the bulls or whoever had the 3rd pick. Grizzles so damn stupid picking him.
Vancouver isn't really "cold" (least not compared to most other Canadian cities), but it does rain a lot, which would probably be considered just as annoying though.
Vancouver has one the mildest winters in Canada. It hardly even snows there! Chicago in the winter is way colder! Vancouver is one the best city in the WORLD to live in. dailyhive.com/vancouver/vancouver-best-city-quality-of-living-2019
I'm an American i would took advantage of making a mark in Vancouver..
Of course you should. Vancouver has one of the mildest winters in Canada. Vancouver is often ranked annually as one of the most liveable cities in the WORLD! Houston isn't in the top 20 most liveable cities in the U.S. , while Baltimore ranks as one of the worst cities in the country.
@The Life Analyst wow you are so wrong about that.
@The Life Analyst Canada has a much better quality of life than in the U.S.
@The Life Analyst I've been living in Canada all my life.
I’ve lived in Houston....what the hell was Francis thinking? Vancouver is one of the best cities in the world!
only if they picked someone else, the Vancouver Grizzlies should've remained in Vancouver, and Vancouver is beautiful, its better than Memphis if you ask me
True but nobody was coming to their games, attendance was low AF and they got worse and worse each season they were in Vancouver. A weak Canadian dollar. There was no way they were gonna stay there. But I do think Steve could've handled it better lol
You can't ask black people to go and play in cities like that.
Sea Pea LMAO 😆😆
You get paid USD even on Canadian team
But anyways fuck Steve Francis - man who misses the grizzlies 😂😔
should have sat him his whole rookie contract
I'm from Vancouver and ik we shouldn't have drafted somone that openly said he didn't wanna play for us but he was maryland and conplaing about how it took 9 hours to get to vancouver and he so hype when he got traded to houston bruh that is still far away, he shouda just played like his rookie contract there like 2 years and if he hated it so much he could finna leave but just straight bitchin about at the draft n stuff is just disrespectful to Vancouver even canadains to
Conor Laverty lol especially cause Vancouver is like top 5-10 nicest cities in the world
VINCE SAVAGE Teams don't stop being shitty until good players play on shitty teams. When Steve Nash went to the Suns, they were a shitty team. When MJ was drafted by the Bulls, they were shitty, same with Dirk and the Mavs, same with LeBron and the Cavs. Those players had fire and were true superstars because of the fact that they were willing to accept playing for lesser teams because they knew that they could lead and set the tone for the franchises. Steve Francis didn't have it in him and that's why he fizzled out of the league by 30.
@@imaratspal Well the Suns were far from "shitty", considering they made the playoffs every year back then, and were also an annual title contender during the Charles Barkley era. That and Steve Nash didn't even begin to make his mark, and become an elite player until he was traded to the Mavericks, where he finally got playing time that he wasn't going to get with Kidd being the Suns top point guard at the time for that matter either.
@@freakyfornash The Suns were one of the worst teams in the NBA the season before Nash went there as a free agent or do you have a different memory? You can try as hard as you can to spin it to help you sleep at night but the Suns were shit.
I mean the year the Suns drafted Nash in 96. But yes you're right about them being a shit team before they signed him (albeit did make the playoffs in 03, and pretty much tanked 04 to have cap space to sign him), if that's what you were referring to, and my bad in that case. But can you imagine if Vancouver had drafted him, what with the impact he'd have made there though, what with him being an actual Canadian for that matter too? He alone probably could have made that franchise decent, and saved them from moving in the process for that matter also!
MOST EXPANSION TEAMS SUCK WHEN THEY START
I have zero respect for Steve Francis since this moment and I am not a Grizzlies fan. Bad attitude and a whinner.
Why's ok for teams to trade and dump players with no warning or anything but when a player says he doesn't want to play somewhere he gets shit from people like you.
What's your view on Eli Manning and John Elway? Bo Jackson?
They didn't destroy a franchise with their actions. So forgiven in my books.
damn did the same shit too??
I'm a Grizzlies fan I'm from Memphis but I didn't know they used to play in Vancouver they were terrible
Francis could have made a name for himself in a newly emerged franchise. Vancouver struggled to build a winning team but then they finally draft a good player and he pulls this...
Canada taxes are no joke lol
That's why steve didn't get too far because of what did to Canada he and mike bibby would have done really good for the city of Vancouver..
Mike Bibby said the same thing on draft night 😂😂😂 Dont draft me Vancouver Grizzlies. Just look it up😊
Was really nice to see him in Vancouver at the grand primere of the Grizzlie truth. Good to hear his side and him helping investors to push for a team again in Vancouver along with Seattle.
Was it the Canadian taxes? Vancouver is the coolest city I've ever been to, and I'm a Houstonian.
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The city of Vancouver, BC 🇨🇦 was a great city 🌃
But the Vancouver Grizzlies 🐻 stunk and had the worst record in the league
That was one thing which made many players (besides the league's dregs's who would literally play for any team no matter how horrible a place, and situation it was) wanting absolutely nothing to do with that city at all, along with it being a small market (when it came to NBA standards) in a far away land. Hell, journeyman Doug West downed like 20 Heineken's when he found out he was traded there, and that was someone coming from Siberia esc. Minnesota for God's Sake! (L.O.L.!)
@@freakyfornash I suspect it's just the fact that it's a small market because no one particularly cares about basketball there. Very low black population - it's just 1.2%. Who are they going to hang out with? Whites, Chinese, Koreans, and Indians? I wouldn't call it any more faraway than Seattle.
its beautiful, but also a boring city
They filmed the X-Files for 5 years in Vancouver.
It just didn't make sense for him to be in Vancouver. They already had a PG in Mike Bibby
I remember this. I'ts almost like when Rick Barry said he didn't want to play for any southern teams. Then added more insult to injury, when he ridiculed the way southerners talked, and their mannerisms, etc. He was very straight forward about that. Lol! Even though, I never really cared for Steve Francis that much. I can understand about the whole Mike Bibby being drafted the previous season part. Personally I wouldn't mind playing for Vancouver. The city is wonderful. Love their skyline, and there's plenty of culture, and great food all around, and etc. The winters are pretty mild also; surprisingly. At least compared to here in "cold ass" New York. Lol! Really love Vancouver. Great city.
That’s funny about Rick Barry because he and his sons all retired in Houston which is as southern as it gets.
As for Steve, I enjoyed his time in Houston. He was athletic and a pleasure to watch. He helped bridge that gap between the time Hakeem and TMac. It came apparent that you probably can’t build a team around him around 04-05 so when the news came rip that McGrady wanted to play in Houston I was all for sending Stevie over there.
It sucks that NBA players never give Canada a chance. It’s a nice place
I love how it's like "only one thing could ruin it" then it cuts to these beautiful photos of the city....
Must suck living there!
Great throwback video! By chance have the original footage, talkhoops? Do you have any contact info?
Probably the bigger mistake of his career. I’d take living in Vancouver over Houston any day.
To understand Houston, you sort of have to experience it by coming down for some time. I think Houston is a better city than its being marketed. Great entertainment, bigger population, multiple suburbs (Katy, Woodlands, and Pearland to name a few). You’re an hour away from the gulf coast town of Galveston for the beaches and already got a great environment. Vancouver’s a great city in terms of scenery with mountains and magic winters. Both are great cities. It just depends on what you like.
@@KWCline91 Well Houston is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy more affordable compared to Vancouver. Vancouver is considered the most expensive city in North America beating the likes of LA and New York.
Francis and Yao Ming were a crazy duo!
I used to love watching him play when I was a kid
bad GM for picking Steve Francis. Why draft him stupid Grizzlies? What a waste of #2 pick.
Well because he was considered to be the best player available at the time, who could both very well turn a franchise around, and had star power. That of which the (Vancouver) Grizzlies desperately needed at the time, and for their entire existence, but never quite truly had the whole brief period they played there though.
Why wasn't he selected by Chicago
@@freakyfornash They do have Mike Bieby at the time
@@jcalm1 I know, but he and Francis could have made a sick backcourt together. It would have been sort of a throwback to the Isiah Thomas/Joe Dumars years too.
Id be happy if Vancouver drafted me
In 2023
If any sport team in vancouver ever drafted you just remeber that u are always a loser cuz u choose to be drafted by the worldest gayest city
You would be happy if you're an Asian dude or a white hipster. There's no black people in Vancouver, so it would've been a very lonely experience for Francis.
@@realniggashit3 it only sucks for people who live within the confines of ethnic stereotypes and only have friends from their own group
@@realniggashit3
people who see everything through race and segregation are sad. Its a different country, Vancouver is the most multicultural city in North America. Do your research.
I blame management. They were an absolute joke. You have Odom and Davis sitting right there after Francis. See if you can make a trade back and get future unprotected first round picks in the deal.
Man if I was drafted 2nd overall by the Grizzlies then I wouldn't be surprised because I'm from Memphis and I have been a grizzly fan my entire life
Why Steve hated Vancouver, great people and great city.
Well not many NBA players knew much about it, and to them was a small market (for NBA standards) in a far away land with the high Canadian taxes. That of which made it very difficult to attract players who would want to play, and stay there for the long haul for that matter too.
@@freakyfornash It's seems that many NBA players weren't well educated during their college career.
Not for Black people.
in all sports...players need to be thankful they get a chance with any team...period!!!!
I'm certain he would've been happy enough with the Charlotte Hornets as a 3rd pick. Baron Davis would've been cool at #2. His hometown is in LA.
Davis was a PG, Grizzlies already had Bibby tho....
Two things come to mind on the trade from Vancouver to Houston.
1) Vancouver made the mistake of drafting Francis. Not because he told them not to. But rather it was that the Grizzlies really had nowhere to out him after drafting Bibby, which he said in the video. If you had gotten someone else, then it could've worked out. But by picking Francis, you have two players that pose as dual-threat guards even though Francis was more athletic.
2) The trade to Houston was great. But the unfortunate thing about the trade was the timing. Things weren't gelling with Pippen and Barkley, who was also retired and Hakeem was near the end of his career. Had all that been done earlier like in 1996 or 1997, he would've complimented the Rockets to greater heights and they could've reached another NBA Finals in the 1990's. But in the end, the old players went out and then came new talent that was good, but never elite like the Lakers.
zion brought me here too
his facial expression did
Francis is selected by the Vancouver Grizzlies 🐻number two overall in 99
Vancouver Trades Francis to Houston 🚀 in exchange for Othello Harrington Mike Dickerson Antoine Carr Brent Price and a few draft picks!!
Hell no wtf is dem i only know brent price and i think is mark price da rest of dem niggaz i didn't even know exist
“I would rather live in Houston than Vancouver”--said only Steve Francis ever
I'd rather live in Houston. I don't know what you're talking about
I'll rather live in Houston. Last I checked, Steve is Black. Not White or Asian
Easily. Only white supremacist num skulls think otherwise.
i m canadian and i would rather live in houston than vancouver
I would rather live in Houston, TX as well but damn....if only he stayed with the Vancouver Grizzlies though
Zion brought me here 😂
I deadass hope pulls that shit
Richard Jefferson On Zion in NOLA got me here.
same lol
ScrappyDHype why
"FRANCIS DOESN'T GET MUCH SYMPATHY FROM RESENTFUL FANS IN VANCOUVER" What did that mean?!
If Steve Francis played his senior year in Maryland he still wouldn't likely avoided the whole debacle. Vancouver still had the second pick in the NBA draft in 2000. The draft was weaker as well. The Nets wouldn't have likely chosen him either as they already acquired Jason Kidd- and with their first pick selected Kenyon Martin. I think Francis should have acted more professionally and made the best out of the situation being selected by Vancouver though.
Vancouver is often ranked annually as the best city in the world to live in. Houston isn't ranked top 20 in the U.S.
666mathew you got to remember Steve would’ve been far away from his family. Obviously both Houston and Vancouver are great cities. But that doesn’t matter what city is better. It was about what was best for Francis and Vancouver wasn’t it.
I dont think Steve Francis the millionaire gives a fuck about Annual Rankings bro, he just wanted to have a say in where his profession took him and I think every person deserves that.
@@KWCline91 Steve Francis ended up playing in China! Houston isn't that close to MD either. Besides, a rookie NBA player can afford to book a suite for their family at any high end hotel.
666mathew it’s at least a 20 hour drive from Houston to the state. So I think it’s a pretty far.
@@KWCline91 I'm sure Steve Francis could afford to charter a flight for his family.
3:33 I think he was very clear here. So why the hell would you still pick him then???
Still don't really understand why the Bulls didn't take him.
We needed a big-man.
Mustafa Tayish because Elton Brand was clearly better then Francis and he proved that throughout his career
I know, considering how they gave up on Elton Brand pretty quickly for that matter too.
Stevey Francis NBA career turned out to be 💩. Van will/should have a team in 5-10 years they're even the betting favorites to get New Orleans team
Our demographics have changed so much in the past 20 years. Asians love basketball and we have a couple lol
Van will never get a basketball team because they’re in Canada which is so irrelevant
@@BuritoYYTrickzooms guess which team won the finals. Guess which country they're from.
@@justaqua8711 Best comment ever. Coming from an American, fuck that Canada hater.
Steph Curry didn’t want to play for Oakland but look how that turned out for him. I would gladly accept any team that selects me. Maybe except Milwaukee 😂😂
Monta didn't even want to play with Curry either, fun fact. Now the dubs are arguably the best team ever assembled.
Maybe he didn't exactly "want" to play there at the time, but it's not like he flat out refused to, like Francis did with the Grizzlies. Mike Bibby didn't either, but at least he sucked it up, and didn't put a gun to the franchise's head by forcing a trade though. Same was also the case with Damon Stoudamire who wasn't really crazy about the Raptors, but ended up being a decent player for that matter also, despite seemingly wanting to get out of Toronto A.S.A.P. though.
Did you wanna play for them in 2020-21? 😂
@@JWex-jy7sk Milwaukee sucks monkey bawlz.
@@JWex-jy7sk Go Nuggets
No other job does the best of the best at what they do have to be forced to go somewhere they don’t wanna be. Good on Steve for getting somewhere he was more comfortable.
Damn was the Grizzlies always win 2nd?!
Grizzlies are still playing if Francis stays.
The situation was handled poorly by everyone involved. Francis should've been more open minded and Vancouver should've had more direction. Even if they were gonna trade him - you could've told him to act happy until a trade was done. Not killing his trade value.
If the Grizzlies moved to Memphis around that time then Steve would've had nothing to whine or complain about he could've helped them win a championship but he was a total asshole and jerk for disrespecting the franchise who would've become a great team gosh does anyway feel sorry for what the Grizzlies had become
He could’ve done what Carter did for the raptors but whatever screw em
Wink was still grieving his mother's passing and really attached to his remaining family. Vancouver only exacerbated his woes.
why didn't Chicago select Steve
Grizzlies left Vancouver after just 2 years. That's the most insane part.
No question they would've stayed if Stevie Franchise stuck around.
Not after just 2 years. That’s not the most insane part. /
Grizzlies moved to Memphis in 2001. This draft was 1999.
Could've been a monster in Vancouver. Decided to be a diva
Zion's reaction today at the lottery makes me somehow wonder if he'll pull a Steve Francis on draft-day....
@leafshaymin Who gives a shit about the Knicks? I'm a Bulls fan for life
He wanted to be out because the Grizz drafted Bibby the year before. 2 point guards in back to back drafts makes absolutely no sense.
They should've drafted Lamar Odom or Rip hamilton
Or Baron Davis, who would have been a much better fit, and was also willing to play there for that matter too.
The draft rule in NBA for the expansion team like Raptors and Grizzlies was as much to blame for that..
Biggest Baby in NBA history - even more so than Glen 'Big Baby' Davis
Why didn’t he want to play in Vancouver?
the orginal dwayne wade
Zion brought me here. LOL 😂
I don’t even know who he is so too bad for him. Long live the VG
Stevey Franchise was so talented if not for Shaq and Kobe, Francis and Yao would've went to Finals at least twice
They didnt even make the playoffs in 03 and they werent seeing no finals in 04
Bring back the Grizzlies!
Not happening.
Cause SuperSonics will return with Las Vegas or Kansas City
Toronto had Vince, Vancouver needed Francis. When he didn't go it was basically the end of that team.
He wasn't anything great in the NBA though. Barely played 10 years. Didn't win.
People from Vancouver: hurling childish insults to Steve Francis for a decision he made 20 years ago at age 22
Same people: Everybody’s so nice here!
Are they supposed to embrace him wtf?
Canadians aren't that nice its a myth. Im Canadian lol
If he went to Vancouver he would be even more famous
People today are walking around Vancouver in Bibby & Abdur-Rahim jerseys. Bibby might actually be more well known in Vancouver than Sacramento because of that, and he played his most significant years in Sacramento.
@@imaratspaldoubt it
Steve Francis: OH MAN I GOT DRAFTED BY VANCOUVER, NOW THEY GONNA CALL ME A LOSER!
Vince Carter: HAHAHAH Loser you suck u got drafted by trash-couver LOL!
Vince Carter didn’t say that. /
I'm American and I would choose Vancouver over Houston any day.
Trust me...you wouldn't with how expensive it is...
Houston just as far as Vancouver 😂. Can’t respect this guy
Instead of worrying about being a great player going into the league his first thoughts were how often he’d be able to get home to see family.
Only a guy that was raised without a father would think like that.
Hw us wanting to be closer to family “fatherless”? Ya’ll say anything huh.?
@@thedangerwich5476 because a young man who grew up with a father knows the value of being independent and going out into the world on his own.
Whats so wrong with playing in Vancouver?
Marques Williams not that it has to matter but at the time black canadians accounted for less than 1% of the vancouver population, perhaps this was part of the reason
john d Vancouver infested with Chinese....have you ever been to Houston?
This guy felt entitled as a draftee, spoiled
What happened? You dont want to play in Vancouver because its too far from mommy??
This shit is so old
Loool demanded a trade right after getting drafted, Steve a legend
I love the "Houston you have a problem" fan sign lol
Imagine being so delusional
He was a cancer from day one.
What a B
9 hours from chicago to vancouver ? more like 4 hours. Vancouver is next to Seattle and Portland. would he complain about seattle or portland ? chicago houston is 2.5 hours flying time.
I bet Steve Francis threw a temper tantrum
If you want to play in NBA, follow the team that drafted you and you can either sign to other teams once you hit as a free agent or you can either be traded, spoiled brat. If you stayed in Vancouver and accept that saying "this is where my destiny start, so let's do this and change this struggling franchise into a contender." You could be the face of Vancouver basketball and Memphis wouldn't gonna get a team in this days. So glad, you have a short career in the league.
Tj Samson He lasted longer than Vancouver did
Tj Samson plus
they stunk
Bibby was their starting PG at the time
Really thought he could have been more mature about it. You're huffing and puffing on a day in which everyone else is elated for achieving their dream. That attitude would haunt him his entire career and be his downfall.
It did look at where he is right now
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand no wonder he's a punk
Totally ungrateful
Cry baby
The grizzlies would've dominated the league if Steve Francis would've have a better career with a positive,respectful, and grateful attitude
One of the reasons I won't watch the NBA or give them my money is that the players, by and large, seem to be bigoted against our entire country.
You truly don't understand why tho. It's a different country...in addition to visas and that shit your basically paying taxes for two countries... It's why the NBA has never expanded into any other countries since then. Plus let's be honest the Grizzlies franchise in Vancouver sucked...Besides your logos and uniforms there was nothing redeemable about that franchise...I'm sure Vancouver the city is nice but that doesn't mean it'll be profitable for the NBA, You should blame the Front Office who drafted a player who said himself he did not want to play there...I mean it's a different sport but do you call Bo Jackson or John Elway selfish because they refused to play for the teams that drafted them with a high draft pick?
Vancouver is in Alaska
Everyone knows that if you play for a team in Vancouver you know you won't win a championship because the canucks and whitecaps never won a cup so that's why Steve Francis didn't want to play there are its a bad city
ikr all the sport teams in vancouver are so lame
Black people not trying to freeze and deal with long winters 🤣. Steve shouldve said na lol
Look at Vancouver’s weather, then check Detroit, Minnesota, and Milwaukee.
I don’t get the narrative of people not wanting to go to Vancouver. Memphis can’t be better and many American cities aren’t better like Salt Lake City for example lol
Yeah, but at least they are both part of the U.S.A.. That unlike Vancouver, which was a far away land, with a very weak NBA fanbase, and small market, with high taxes to boot, and might as well have been a foreign country to NBA players too.
Memphis is better because.
Traveling is easier
Black population
Basketball town
Food is good too lol
I mean, we can sit here and say how Francis was an asshole or a selfish player or a baby for not wanting to play in Vancouver. And look - he was, even though I can understand why he wouldn't want to play in Vancouver...
...but come one, how much easier would the whole situation have been if the Grizzlies just didn't draft him? It wasn't look they had no idea and were blindsided after they drafted him. He told them he didn't want to play for them. It sucks, but at that point just pick another player, and it's not like the 1999 draft didn't have other good players: Baron Davis, Shawn Marion, Rip Hamilton, Lamar Odom were all top picks after Francis in that year's draft. There's not guarantee that any of them would like it in Vancouver and would stay past their rookie contract, but at least you have a chance of making it work with any of them.
lol grizzlies had the last laugh, guys a bum
did they though 😕
@@samuellalla91 well their legacy still exists in memphis. Same team different city.. I actually like francis, but that attitude is garbage.
To me this vid sums up his whole career...Selfish guy who only cares about himself and incredibly unprofessional.
they sucked so you can’t really blame him for not wanting to play there
Raise ur hand if u hate Vancouver. I would've been pissed going there because they drafted Mike Bibby the year before. They both play the same position. Vancouver is too damn cold and it's in Canada. He shouldve went to the bulls or whoever had the 3rd pick. Grizzles so damn stupid picking him.
Ryan Landgren not cold
Not cold especially compared to Toronto and Montreal
Are u dumb? Its not cold dumbass and Vancouver is a beautiful city.
Vancouver isn't really "cold" (least not compared to most other Canadian cities), but it does rain a lot, which would probably be considered just as annoying though.
Vancouver has one the mildest winters in Canada. It hardly even snows there! Chicago in the winter is way colder! Vancouver is one the best city in the WORLD to live in. dailyhive.com/vancouver/vancouver-best-city-quality-of-living-2019