Have you considered about the chain? If the axle moves the chain will fall off! Also, you mentioned that it will be like a truck, well the "brackets" you made are to close to the wheels. Trucks have one independent bracket which connects to the diff so it has some play, the way you put it together i think it will not work. In my opinion you should fabricate your own axles. Think like it is a T letter... The chain will connect to the center and then it will transfer it to the wheels. Im sorry if i made any mistakes i don't speak very good English, also this is my opinion and my tips, I don't have much mechanical knowledge. P. s i love your work man. Greetings from a fan from Greece
Nate P how please inform me? If the secondary sprocket is on the solid rear axle, how rather b welding was originally planning on doing it the chain would fall all unless the sprocket itself could articulate on that articulating axle, or he could have converted it to a shaft drive set up with some orientation of u joints/cv joints, if u are going to argue the fact please expand rather than simply denying the fact by saying where there is a will there is a way thanks. I also dont belive rather be welding is willing to spend a fortune to build and design a full independant suspension setup that can be seen on most buggy's and four wheelers seen today with an input drive, differential, cv axles, hubs ect.
+Jimmy Bobbly Your original comment was definitely right. I think that Nate P is thinking of something like you just mentioned with using u joints/ differential etc. but that would be a completely different setup than shown in the video
Okay, I commented at the half way point. Now that I have seen it all and where you are going it is much worse. Good luck with that. A darn shame, that engine is far better than what you are building. Don't hurt yourself. I still like you even though that will never run up or down any trails. :)
Hey man, you can have that independent suspension in the rear if you just cut rear axel in half and run a jack shaft coming off the engine and have that jack shaft power a sprocket on each side of the axel. This way either side of the axel will sway independent from each other but both wheels will still be powered
Weren't those carts with the engine all the way out to the side designed for racing? That's a heavy motor. It's going to take curves much better in one direction than the other.
Chain will most likely fall off and all the weight will be on the right side with the engine over there. No traction for the rear and will wear out those shocks. I think you should put the motor behind the axle or in front in the middle so there's a better chance of you getting traction with those small tires and less wear on all your parts
Those tires are plenty of rubber and more than enough for a road kart. Do not do a suspension unless you are going off road. Just make sure to build it flat and straight, that will be a challenge enough with your means. Serious horsepower, do not half way anything.
that rear suspension is a fail,chain wont stay on. check out william stattons build on a sidewinder type buggy. i know you never reply back,so not sure why i bother trying to help......
FYI inside of u joints you may want to look at CV joints and axles from FWD cars in the junk yard. Each car will have two different lengths so you would need to find two similar models using one from each car make sure to pull from the same side of each car.
Next time put a ratchet strap around the tire and put air in it after u put air in it take the strap off and fill it with air completely it works really good
You could build a jack shaft style axle, get the bearing and cv from a small car and have a place like six states build the cv shaft to the right length with the right ends.
there is a flaw with your rear end in order for the rear end to move side to side you would need a joint or the welds might snap the axel is acting like a sway bar and will transfer the movement to the other wheel.
u have to run u joints on the rear end inorder to have independent suspension if not your chain will bind and fall off or just run a little straight axle like out of a atv or fourwheeler or something. anyway good luck man, keep the videos coming👌👍👍!!
Use some junk yard CV joints and hubs. Machine a center power distribution point. Single A-Arm should be fine. More work but plush suspension and decent travel. Just a thought. GS500 engine will prolly burn those tires right off the rim the more I think about it = ) I'll be glad to draw it out for you in 3-d Cad if you like. I have a 4x8 plasma cnc table if you need any brackets cut.
you can't have real independent suspension with a solid axel. you have to make the rear suspension connected and in sink or you chain will come off the sprocket when it's under flex
u should put the motorcycle engine on the green go kart so it would be easier for u to build a small buggie and u wouldn't be spending much money +rather be welding
I tried that but it still wouldn't work what was the problem was the edge of the tire where it meets with the rim got a little kink in it from when I forced the tire on the rim.
your dual aarm setup has proven itsrlf. for offrosding with more dpeed id want to keep the strength of dusl arms over sinhle. onroad use dingle would be ok
I wouldn't have 2 rear swing arms the chain will fall off every time it twists and accelerater a single swing arm would be a lot stronger and you could add a center bearing to stop any flex in a axil
you should have a 2 sprockets, 1 on each rear tire and use the solid axle like a jack shaft with 2 sprockets on it (1 on each end) with 2 chains driving each rear wheel. I hope you understand what I'm saying but I think there shouldn't be a solid axle between the rear wheels with a "flexible" set up like you have there because it's just putting a lot of strain and issues on the 1 chain and if you do some how keep the chain on I think it will wear out and break quickly because of all the flexing.
ken baker I was actually thinking of building it like that and I wanted to but if I did that I would have to put the brake on the jack shaft and if the chains fell off from the jack shaft to the tires I would not have any brakes. But for a while I was going to build it like that.
just abit of a tip for you if u have to do this again I would have your air line handy so when the beads pop get air in otherwise the beads mite pop back off as the tyre sinks back in only reason I no that because I have had it happen to me
your supposed to light it and as soon as it sets the beed put air in it so it don't come off the beed again i had to us belt dressing for my mud mower i stretched 9. inch wides on to 12 inch wide rims and they were 25 inches tall for a John deer 214
would say we could be friends we would have a lot in common I can tell but I live in Florida.I believe things happen for a reason man. Life gets better
“I don’t like 2 seaters cause i don’t have a lot of friends.” I f*cken felt that, i’ll be your friend man you seem like an awesome dude 🤘
I feel him.
put the engine in the middle but on top of the rear axle, seems like a great idea if you had independent suspension
1:30 you have us ;)
hey buddy! thank you so much for making these videos! they always cheer me up. i am so grateful you exist!
OMG this is probably your coolest project yet!!! I am extremely hyped for part 2 :0
Have you considered about the chain? If the axle moves the chain will fall off! Also, you mentioned that it will be like a truck, well the "brackets" you made are to close to the wheels. Trucks have one independent bracket which connects to the diff so it has some play, the way you put it together i think it will not work. In my opinion you should fabricate your own axles. Think like it is a T letter... The chain will connect to the center and then it will transfer it to the wheels. Im sorry if i made any mistakes i don't speak very good English, also this is my opinion and my tips, I don't have much mechanical knowledge. P. s i love your work man. Greetings from a fan from Greece
the way your setting that axle up your either going to throw your chain or just plain snap it by putting it in a bind hope your smart and lock it down
"unless you have a lot of friends, which I don't" *hugs*
Chain will fall off with the articulating axle
Jimmy Bobbly exactly.
definitely, and there isn't really any significant advantage to the articulating axle.
Jimmy Bobbly false. there are ways to do it right where the chain isn't affected.
Nate P how please inform me? If the secondary sprocket is on the solid rear axle, how rather b welding was originally planning on doing it the chain would fall all unless the sprocket itself could articulate on that articulating axle, or he could have converted it to a shaft drive set up with some orientation of u joints/cv joints, if u are going to argue the fact please expand rather than simply denying the fact by saying where there is a will there is a way thanks. I also dont belive rather be welding is willing to spend a fortune to build and design a full independant suspension setup that can be seen on most buggy's and four wheelers seen today with an input drive, differential, cv axles, hubs ect.
+Jimmy Bobbly Your original comment was definitely right. I think that Nate P is thinking of something like you just mentioned with using u joints/ differential etc. but that would be a completely different setup than shown in the video
Okay, I commented at the half way point.
Now that I have seen it all and where you are going it is much worse. Good luck with that.
A darn shame, that engine is far better than what you are building.
Don't hurt yourself. I still like you even though that will never run up or down any trails. :)
wouldn't the independent suspension in the rear gonna throw the chain
probably my favorite build yet. ive watched ever video youve made.... wish i was closer id help ya.
Hey, Try using CV axles, Should be able to get them cheap at the junk yard and just take the wheel bearing too.
Adam Balwinski exactly
Hey man, you can have that independent suspension in the rear if you just cut rear axel in half and run a jack shaft coming off the engine and have that jack shaft power a sprocket on each side of the axel. This way either side of the axel will sway independent from each other but both wheels will still be powered
"two seaters are good if you have a lot of friends....which I dont" Hahaha Love it brother. Keep up the good work man!
Weren't those carts with the engine all the way out to the side designed for racing? That's a heavy motor. It's going to take curves much better in one direction than the other.
Just found you. Love the channel. You are doing on TH-cam what I've been doing for three years. I love building gokarts
just looking through the comments I notice you are replying a lot more. Great job job on the build!
Chain will most likely fall off and all the weight will be on the right side with the engine over there. No traction for the rear and will wear out those shocks. I think you should put the motor behind the axle or in front in the middle so there's a better chance of you getting traction with those small tires and less wear on all your parts
Those tires are plenty of rubber and more than enough for a road kart. Do not do a suspension unless you are going off road.
Just make sure to build it flat and straight, that will be a challenge enough with your means.
Serious horsepower, do not half way anything.
that rear suspension is a fail,chain wont stay on. check out william stattons build on a sidewinder type buggy. i know you never reply back,so not sure why i bother trying to help......
I'm hoping that the rear end wont be a fail I'm going to try and make it work but worst case scenario I just rebuild the back end
rather B welding no need just make a high rpm spring loaded chain tensioner
how in the world is that chain going to stay on the axle?
FYI inside of u joints you may want to look at CV joints and axles from FWD cars in the junk yard. Each car will have two different lengths so you would need to find two similar models using one from each car make
sure to pull from the same side of each car.
Next time put a ratchet strap around the tire and put air in it after u put air in it take the strap off and fill it with air completely it works really good
Yep, that and taking the valve stem out, instant bead set.
all three are not going to work on tires mangled buy pallet straps and post office workers... I had to up tubes in them
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You could build a jack shaft style axle, get the bearing and cv from a small car and have a place like six states build the cv shaft to the right length with the right ends.
Get steering u joints I forget what it was called but perfect for what u need bmi karts was around 20$
there is a flaw with your rear end in order for the rear end to move side to side you would need a joint or the welds might snap the axel is acting like a sway bar and will transfer the movement to the other wheel.
Cut the axle into two short chunks and have the two rear A arms independent with a 2 chains driving each rear wheel individually
what about having an axial right behind the engine and having to chairs to each wheel, also cutting the axial at the back in half
u have to run u joints on the rear end inorder to have independent suspension
if not your chain will bind and fall off
or just run a little straight axle like out of a atv or fourwheeler or something. anyway good luck man, keep the videos coming👌👍👍!!
Just awesome man! I loved you at the Swap meet with C&C
Can you please show in detail how you fabricate the shifter mechinism and how it works please
The chain will constantly fall off with the rear axle being able to twist like that
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a good way to seat tyres is directly put the air compressor hose into the rim through the valve
you have to start filling it with air right after you seat the bead
I love this idea, I also love all of your videos just keep doing what you're doing!!
I like the engine by the driver because that makes it like a racing kart
Use some junk yard CV joints and hubs. Machine a center power distribution point. Single A-Arm should be fine. More work but plush suspension and decent travel. Just a thought. GS500 engine will prolly burn those tires right off the rim the more I think about it = ) I'll be glad to draw it out for you in 3-d Cad if you like. I have a 4x8 plasma cnc table if you need any brackets cut.
for future info try a ratchet strap around the tire
Dude you have here one friend. Also there will be a lot more within your 47k subs! Keep doing it so well. Cheers!
Love the content man
thanks
rather B welding please don't use the articulating axle chain will fall off
Noah Grace Nice
if you want independant rear , basically what ya got, but seperate the rear axle, and run both sides to a jackshaft, then engine to jackshaft..
Nice, fun to watch this one come together.
you can't have real independent suspension with a solid axel. you have to make the rear suspension connected and in sink or you chain will come off the sprocket when it's under flex
How many wheels do you buy?
can't wait to see it finished and i wish I lived closer to you id be your friend bro. great video as usual
cant wait for 50k good work man
u should put the motorcycle engine on the green go kart so it would be easier for u to build a small buggie and u wouldn't be spending much money +rather be welding
What size are those wheels
and use a jack shaft to position the angle of the swing arm.
use cvjoints
You could use really large lag bolts, take of the head tap that side and weld them into a cross. Make a u joint. Not that hard.
Buying cv joints or finding them is expensive.
@@garciabe83 you can get CV joints for like $80 on Sixity.com...cut them up and make them longer.
paddle shift for the gears?
When will be the Part 2?
If u put it on the side won't it be side heavy and want t tip cornering at high speed
Truggy you're making a truggy 👍
Is it okay if I use your project to do a buggy?
Rather than setting your tires on fire remove the valves this should give you enough pressure from the compressor to seat the tyres.
you ever have the beed not wanting to seat problem use a ratchet strap around it tighten it some then try air
I tried that but it still wouldn't work what was the problem was the edge of the tire where it meets with the rim got a little kink in it from when I forced the tire on the rim.
move the front tires back if you want it small
your dual aarm setup has proven itsrlf. for offrosding with more dpeed id want to keep the strength of dusl arms over sinhle.
onroad use dingle would be ok
I wouldn't have 2 rear swing arms the chain will fall off every time it twists and accelerater a single swing arm would be a lot stronger and you could add a center bearing to stop any flex in a axil
that fire dance was funny
you could use a socket u joint
I love watching your video. Wow so nice
awesome video you have 46k friends on TH-cam
It'd be cool to see a twin i- beam front end on a go kart
rather B welding do u weld with flux or aregon?
Hayden Williams its flux core that I'm using now but I'm actually thinking of buying a cheap stick welder.
you should have a 2 sprockets, 1 on each rear tire and use the solid axle like a jack shaft with 2 sprockets on it (1 on each end) with 2 chains driving each rear wheel. I hope you understand what I'm saying but I think there shouldn't be a solid axle between the rear wheels with a "flexible" set up like you have there because it's just putting a lot of strain and issues on the 1 chain and if you do some how keep the chain on I think it will wear out and break quickly because of all the flexing.
ken baker I was actually thinking of building it like that and I wanted to but if I did that I would have to put the brake on the jack shaft and if the chains fell off from the jack shaft to the tires I would not have any brakes. But for a while I was going to build it like that.
rather B welding don't they make sprockets that double as brake discs that you could mount to the wheel?
what about steering column ujs
Put the engine behind the seat it will look better and u should use more starting fluid
you have the skill build a tiny car front engine rwd
John Ryan Because drift car
ItsATrap Best idea so far, it has the power!
It's the grave ninja 650
just abit of a tip for you if u have to do this again I would have your air line handy so when the beads pop get air in otherwise the beads mite pop back off as the tyre sinks back in only reason I no that because I have had it happen to me
Can i please have the plans for this go kart
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your supposed to light it and as soon as it sets the beed put air in it so it don't come off the beed again i had to us belt dressing for my mud mower i stretched 9. inch wides on to 12 inch wide rims and they were 25 inches tall for a John deer 214
im enjoying the vids, keep at it!
would say we could be friends we would have a lot in common I can tell but I live in Florida.I believe things happen for a reason man. Life gets better
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ur going to weld and modify everything get some CV axles from a small car. shouldn't be but 30 or 40 for them
You got good videos man keep up the good work I like them
front tire will move in an arc(portion of a circle)
Decent video man!
Put sheet metal fenders to make it look like a race car
Great video, keep it up
Give link on rims pls?
use some water after its been beaded that might help
Plzzzz make a video about where u can find a cheap motor
does anyone know how much it would cost to build like this from scratch
0:40 Thank you, Go Power Sports.
Word of the day " how in the world"😂😂
Finally I've been waiting
It looked way better if you put the engine behind the cart and plus it would probably be better weight distribution
put the engine past the rear axle in the back like a dune buggy.
nice one fella!
+rather b welding your suppose to have the air hose right next to you
Like the fire dance man 🤣
BMI ? jas.
Double A arms , if not you will regret it in the long run besides now that you have done it on the green machine it will be easier :)
Next time, ratchet strap it, pull the valve stem and hit it with the compressor. That's how I do it.
do it the first way but the front wheels push in 2 inches