3 SIMPLE MODS FOR AWESOME ! NEW FMS Rafale 64mm EDF Jet
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- 3 SIMPLE MODS FOR AWESOME ! NEW FMS Rafale 64mm EDF Jet
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This new version of the Rafale is a convenient size to put on the back seat of the car compared to the larger 80mm EDF version. It goes together in minutes. Just just UHU POR to glue on the vertical stabiliser, canards and fuel probe. Slide on the missiles, bombs and fuel tanks. Click on the mains landing gear and attach the nose gear. Then all you need to do is install your receiver and connect it up to the clearly labelled leads for the individual control surfaces and Reflex v2 gyro.
On this flight I removed its fixed landing gear and flew it with gyro on. You can also see that I cut some finger holes to assist with hand launching after 2 failed attempts. The fuselage is wide and flat underneath and impossible to get a good hand grip so I had to make this modification. Jason had tried a 2 handed launch but it is impossible to keep the nose up while pushing it hard from behind.
Sadly we have had a few rude comments that have had to be removed and the associated accounts blocked. Unless you try to hand launch this model yourself you wouldn't know what you are talking about.
1. Remove the fixed landing gear
2. Remove the bombs and missiles
3. Cut finger holes to assist hand launching
Flown on a 4S2700 pack and it was awesome. Easily the best small jet I have flown in a very long time !
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Well done guys for doing the finger grip slots like I did. Great video!
She certainly does float and has an excellent speed envelope. Ive had so much interest from the public when I fly mine, more than any plane ever. They probably think its a typhoon!
Like any handlaunch edf she needs up trim for launch.
Thanks 👍
Love the Rafale. I had a bodgy one years and years ago, not as nice as the FMS. That flew great as well. Nice work Dom, good job.
Thanks Jacen 👍
Looks fairly easy in the air! Nice and fun
A great video and really sensible advice , as usual. Diolch yn fawr, thank you very much, Den, Abertawe.
Fantastic looking Jet. I love those slow maneuvers with power to punch out of it. Stuck the Landing ;-) See you in the Air!
Spot on Dom, that's the way forwards, you might have just saved this one from being sold on.
It would be interesting to enable the canards and play with high-alpha maneuvering. Looks great in the air, for sure!
I've had 4 flights on mine now. 2 with wheels, 2 hand launched. I will cut holes for extra grip but the slow speed qualities are such that 2 launches where I barely 'put' it in the air were easily handled. Reflex in stabilized mode will have the model climbing quite steeply away.
I used stabilised mode for launch today. Works well
Very nice aerial video
Very nice Dom. Much better with less drag...that would be the way i fly it!
Very nice
I handlaunch a 70mm and a mirage 80mm at about 20 to 30 degree up angle, straight in high alpha, works fantastic. Never throw flat. Good tips for when my small rafale arrives
I'm 2 mind on getting 70 or 80mm version now u mentioned u handlaunch urs guess 6s has more umphhthan 4s as mine a marlin converted to fpv with cam on tail fin looks awesome via dji goggles
Would it be poss to see a handlaunch clip
what mode are you hand launching in? no Stabilization?
If you take the piece's you cut out and turn them to the inside and Re glue them in! it should fill the Holes you make and still grip it to hand Launch!!! paint the flipped foam Gray !! to match!
Thrust vectoring would be the cherry on top
Not sure if this is relevant, but when I was setting up my Durafly Vampire, Jon, of Woolly Sheep Reviews, did a brilliant review/mods video of the aircraft. One thing he demonstrated was that the 'as per' setup wasn't allowing enough air throught the intakes, and he solved this ( as did I !) by cutting air intakes above and behind the cockpit, then demonstrated the extra thrust gained.
Perhaps cutting the handholds in your aircraft added to the intake volumne? Just a thought, cheers, Den, Abertawe.
The holes would help but I don't think they are necessary for good power. I flew this without the mod with fixed landing gear and bombs etc and it still flew well.
Nice... So Did you launch with safe "Stabilizer" on ? Full power? And some up elevators ? And gyro on all the flight?
Safe?! This isn't a E-flite model. Fairly sure I launched with gyro off and switched it to optimised mode after first circuit. Optimised mode on the Reflex v2 gyro just tries to minimise affects of wind turbulence. I think Stabilised mode on Reflex v2 gyro is like E-flite Safe in that it auto-levels. Doubt I will ever use that. More for beginners.
Has it got enough thrust to hold its own weight and lipo? It was between this and the same priced xfly su27 as my back seat park jet. The xfly just looked more interesting and much easier to hand launch. I think it also looks faster than this Rafale.
No. Not 1:1 but EDFs rarely have that.
On the first and second hand launch crash there didn't look to be any elevator input on launch either
Any luck increasing the elevon throws for roll? If I can't do that through reflex I will replace it with a SAFE mode/AS3X Spektrum receiver. Definitely needs more throw for roll.
Reflex doesn't limit it. Longer servo arms if you really need more throw.
@@EssentialRC Yeah, but reflex gives you much less throw for roll than for pitch. Plenty of pitch authority but I'd like to higher roll rate.
Love the mods im going to hand launch mine, is the c of g correct in the manual ? Thanks
Yes, it is
@@EssentialRC Thanks Maiden tomorrow
the one thing i would say about assembling the model is that the fit of the canards to the fuz is really poor, they are very loose in the cutouts that they fit in, there was around 2 to 3mm of vertical slop in them, and if your not careful when gluing them in you could easily get them not parallel with each other, which would make flying "fun", can't really understand why FMS made it like that as the fin is a very tight fit, so they can do it correct if they want, also the cutout in the canopy where the latch goes in had no bottom in it so you could just remove the canopy by lifting it off without having to use the latch, needless to say i glued a small bit of foam in or it would have just fallen off in the air
My canards fitted OK. If my canards came off I'd probably use some cocktail sticks or carbon rod. I had more of a problem with the vertical stab but medium cyano and kicker fixed that.
Great video i must say anyway bud. Shame about the first 2 hand launches be nice to see it hand launched with fuel tanks on
Just don't think that's a good idea. They would just get ripped off on landing. High alpha flying this Rafale today was brilliant. Video soon...
Anyone got any thoughts was thinking of a edf for next year was thinking either the yak 130 , habu or viper , ?
Not Habu. Boring flight characteristics. Main first decision is between scale or sport jet and then fan size. That kinda dictates price.
@@EssentialRC I’m thinking more scale kinda taken by the yak I think best go watch a few of your vids again cheers sir , bloody invaluable you are !
Gear doors and grass runways are a bad combination. Bear that in mind. Otherwise thanks buddy 👍
Could this take 5s Dom??
Don't know until you try. I won't be doing that. Lost count of the number of times I tried "adding another cell" when I started in electric models...and it ended in a puff of some or worse.
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How did you receive such a beast? Sorry if you said it, I was having trouble hearing the beginning.
I've got friends at FMS. They sent it to me to review
@@EssentialRC Friends in high places, Nice! Thanks for the link and the response! Cool channel!
You say it has good power , if you hold it by the nose and go full power does it have enough to lift it's own weight ?
From memory...yes, when the pack is fully charged.
@@EssentialRC interesting, mine does not. I will screw with it and see what I can change
It's pretty wobbly on the roll axis, i found flying mine, and gives me an unstable feeling.
All deltas do it to some degree. Gyro would help
@@EssentialRC thank you for your response. There is already a gyro in the rafale. I couldn't see a real difference though.
@@erad05 I had forgotten it came with Reflex gyro. You would notice it on windy days I suspect in Stabilised mode but wing rock is common on deltas in my experience.
It looks sweet but a XFLY A10 Thunderbolt fly much better from what I can see.
You are actually comparing a delta wing with an A-10?! 🙄
@@EssentialRC comparing EDF to an EDF or just RC planes in general and the A10 is one sweet machine.
Expected that crunch at the start... x2.. and these jets released over the last 18 months don't come close to the 64mm mig15 and the p.15 released by Freewing.
You did? I didn't.
Yes, 470g 64mm flying weight for freewing (over 1:1 thrust weight ratio) will fly much better than this, and cheaper too. They're less than half the weight of this jet.
@@robertwong2412 There isn't a Freewing Rafale. What are you talking about?!
Looks like it flies a bit weird?
Like a delta you mean? 😆
hi, i found some video seems steal your channel's part, that YT channel name is "奇葩小猎人"
no one notice the guy who throw the jet to the ground?😂
@BrianPhillipsRC
when will you be doing a build and flight vid 😉
Build?! And I don't think he's going to reply on here. He's got his own channel.
What battery did you use?
Put the flaps down and use up elevator
Eh, it doesn't have flaps buddy
Nose up dude, lol
i would get someone else to through it - and point it up
WHERE ARE THE LANDING WHEEL ???
Removed the fixed landing gear. Retracts would make it too heavy
Wouldnt work on our flying field unless the grass was freshly cut
Is this a joke? Why would you give it to someone with no experience to launch the thing. Twice in a row he throws it down you have to angle it up and throw it. Tf did I just watch. No one even corrected the guy to tell him throw it up. 🤦♂️
🙄 Not possible to get a decent grip on it to do that...so we modified it and flew it many times subsequently
Walter White in the house👍
Say my name. SAY MY NAME ! 😆
Your friend didn't launch it properly. Every time he releases it, it was already pointing at the ground. Launcher mistake. If you have separate person launching it, you don't need to cut holes when you can hold the jet properly with 2 hands and ensuring it points level or slightly upwards upon release. Your friend just have very bad left/right hand coordination.
Disagree 100% How exactly are you supposed to hold the nose up while pushing from the back?! Please buy one and try what you are suggesting 🤣
@@EssentialRC I totally disagree with you. I've launched jets with both hands synchronized at LEVEL. Your friend is just bad at launching jets with both hands.
Agree to disagree. Prefer the mod I did. Easier to get a straight powerful launch.
@@EssentialRC Good Dom - always better to agree to disagree rather than resort to 'aggressive' responses! Wish more people would do that.
In the end it was really easy 🤣
Well...sometimes you have to get it very wrong before you get it very right ! 😆 I crash it so you don't have to.
@@EssentialRC...and a very nice landing!
That was an absolutely awful hand launch. He was doing it wrong. He had it pointed slightly down when he let it go. We've been hand launching mine with no problem. First time didn't go so well because of being tail heavy, however. Put your fingers behind the landing gear mountings for a place to push against.
These things happen. That was before we made a mod to make it easier to hold. The bottom is too wide and flat to hold onto. Cutting some finger holds made it way easier.
@@EssentialRC I just hate the idea of cutting into that beautiful model
Agree but at the time I thought it was best option. FMS should really design it so can be hand launched. Nobody should be adding those fixed landing gear. Looks horrible with them dangling down while flying around. Don't know why FMS bother with that. Save a few pennies in manufacturing and lower the price.
@@EssentialRC i'm wondering if there is a small enough, light enough, retract system that would fit in this airplane.
Jason throws like a girl.