The End of Average | Todd Rose | Talks at Google

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  • @prismaticspace4566
    @prismaticspace4566 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Judging from the popularity of this video and the fact that standardised tests are still widely applied five years after this, it's either going to be buried in history or only going to be picked up again many years later. Revolutions in the realms of social science never come fast.

    • @Torbu6286
      @Torbu6286 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We'll see, it's been 7 years btw

  • @PJVila
    @PJVila 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I found this presentation to be rather 'average'. But seriously, one of the underlying messages of the presenter appears to be that learning software is the answer to the problem of providing individualized learning to large masses of students. He used the phrase 'to scale' numerous times. This solution can help attenuate some of the ills of mass/industrialized education (it can complement learning) but it barely scratches the surface. He should have spent more time talking about the following:
    -How to reduce inequality in our society;
    -How are educational system can be used to help students discover what they are really interested in and allows them the flexibility and resources to learn more about that;
    -The role standardized tests and the education system play in disciplining our students and how it encourages conformity;
    -The role standardized tests play in giving the impression we live in a meritocracy - if you performed poorly on these tests, then it is your fault and you deserve to have a lower paying job/career than someone who went to Harvard who had very high scores; this takes the focus off of inequality and systematic ways to keep people in poverty;
    -Why our culture thinks it's OK to pay k-12 teachers non-competitive salaries (I believe in Finland they are paid much higher relative to their living expenses);
    -Why there has been a systematic attempt to privatize and destroy public education over the last 40 years; the role private companies like the College Board, Microsoft, Google, Harcourt, McGraw-Hill, etc play in shaping the priorities in our educational system;
    -How to reduce bureaucracy in our public system while empowering parents, students, teachers.
    -How companies use "free software" to collect data on students without their knowledge/consent.
    Learning software alone cannot fix these problems. In fact, for smaller children, it can make things worse.

  • @Torbu6286
    @Torbu6286 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video needs more exposure

  • @mrsk9344
    @mrsk9344 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A really thought provoking talk, thank you

  • @TheGarrymoore
    @TheGarrymoore 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A very important truth.

  • @20tamam_ir
    @20tamam_ir ปีที่แล้ว

    I couldn't find Benjamin Bloom's experiment in 1980 that was mentioned in minute 29
    Can anyone help me?

  • @johncaccioppo1142
    @johncaccioppo1142 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if these speakers at Google ever get a chance to interview the workers at Google to learn what they understand or are taught about these topics that are given as talks at Google.

  • @DaveWard-xc7vd
    @DaveWard-xc7vd 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are confusing "average", a colloquial application of the term average with the median value in a bellcurve. Which is a "typical" value.

    • @TheGarrymoore
      @TheGarrymoore 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And you confuse median with MODE which is THE typical value. Learn boy!

    • @DaveWard-xc7vd
      @DaveWard-xc7vd 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheGarrymoore
      I was speaking to my audience.

  • @Fudoobeer
    @Fudoobeer 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i read the title as "The End of Avenge"

  • @DaveWard-xc7vd
    @DaveWard-xc7vd 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your critique of the marshmallow test doesnt change the fact that the results of the test has correlated to various outcomes.

  • @DaveWard-xc7vd
    @DaveWard-xc7vd 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    They are taking an average of their sample. Not the average of all brains.
    What he should be looking for is a median brain. The median cancer. The median student.
    Test a group of students. Make a graph of their scores that groups the scores around the median score. Now you have the "average" student. Average being a colloquial application of the term.

  • @DaveWard-xc7vd
    @DaveWard-xc7vd 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Compancey baised credentials? That's sounds like a meritocracy.

  • @johnnythreefour2902
    @johnnythreefour2902 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Pretty average looking dude.

  • @DaveWard-xc7vd
    @DaveWard-xc7vd 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this guy also a Flat Earther?