Kendrick Lamar vs. Big Sean | The Joe Budden Podcast
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- The guys discuss the possibility of Kendrick Lamar vs. Big Sean plus a call from Royce Da 5'9.
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“I think his false confidence got him inspired. I can’t make them respect ya baby it’s not my job. You finally famous for who you date not how your rhyme." - Kendrick Lamar
How tf did this guy know about these lyrics. It only leaked in 2023
@ayanrahman4971 that part was only leak3d
The new leak was th3 whole song
5 years later and this episode is still relevant 😂😭
there’s a definite answer now though lol
Made Sean go into hiding after Damn. Destroyed Drake after hiding out from the Sean body..smh
Sean got a lot of punchlines....but Kendrick got the whole package (pause)
Mr Boots 😂
Thts Facts💯
And major salute to you for throwin a pause on tht sentence🤘🏿
unpause
@@mrc3rtifi3d13 yesssir! Lol
Oh yea ight
Big Sean would do alright but Kendrick would win. Keep it real don’t be intellectually dishonest.
@TruMusic89 they're not even close lyrically or content wise lol
TruMusic89 woah dere boi
@TruMusic89 big Sean bars are border line corny. I'm not overeating kendrick at all
Don demarco Sean is almost notorious for corny lines. He’s a dope rapper but, he can’t stand with Kendrick for long in a battle. It’d go back and forth for a few tracks at most.
@@MyAlias9X exactly
Who's here after the war is js finally over
who says its over? Sean just dissed kendrick on Tobey
Friendly competition is like when ScHoolboy Q said "not even Kendrick can humble me" in X. It's a back handed complement. Q tells us that he feels better than Kendrick, whilst acknowledging that Kendrick is great enough to humble rappers like he did in Control
Nah man, thats tame af. It falls under the category of friendly competition but as long as you ain't saying some serious shit it can all be considered friendly competition. When you cross certain lines that "friendly" part ends. Until then it's all fair game.
@@blankspace4358 facts
Mamello R Kendrick dissed Sean in humble too n the heart part 4
Wtf lol u dont comprehend rap very well ...no shade..that's not what "Not Evem Kendrick can Humble me"
But what about that last part on vice city?
I need that almost beefs podcast, and Drake/Kendrick is the Cold War of modern rap to me
Yeeee but kendrick would body drake
Jerry Escobar Nah it would be close. On shit remix drake definitely had some nice jabs at Kendrick
@@2fly97 kendrick made drake not want to make music with him anymore just to drop a diss then got scorched backed 😂
Dante Hardy They definitely been going back and forth for quite some time now
The Cold War I’m dying 😂😭
“You’re finally famous for who you date not how you rhyme”
Believe it or not Big Sean has a song closer to going diamond then any of Kendrick’s songs
@@dot98cool.
I think Kendrick and Sean are Friends to a certain extent, they have a mutual respect for each other. But whoever throws the first Stone will definitely see retaliation.
Diamond Donn Kendrick threw a whole boulder, (humble) and Sean didn’t do shit lol.
@@lyricallysupreme Nice track but trash shot. I think it was a reach for people to think it was.
lyricallysupreme that was a teach when people said that was a Big Sean diss. The whole beef is fabricated by people and media
Diamond Donn 💯💯💯
Not even close. Compare Dark Sky Paradise to Good Kid Maad City, and I decided to To Pimp A Butterfly. Those albums are not even close, Kendrick's impact is light years ahead of Sean's
@the TRAMP of New Orleans and DAMN. was better than that garbage album Sean put out with Metro Boomin
@the TRAMP of New Orleans The flow on TPAB might seem that way because it's different. But you can't deny the substance of that album, they literally annotate it in ivy league schools. Meanwhile Sean is rapping about bein blessed like he got bad allergies.
the TRAMP of New Orleans lmao I never said Kendrick didn't have bad songs. Just said the difference between him and big Sean is too big to even be having this conversation
the TRAMP of New Orleans if we bringing up lame ass pop songs let’s not forget sean has collab’d w/ fallout boy, Miley Cyrus (twice), mike posner, and nick jonas...
I Decided beats DAMN tho and that’s facts
“My Sage Burn Different!” -Mal
I'm Kendrick. Always been. He's songs help me deal with depression. He's work ethic is impeccable and inspiring
Kendrick is a great. That's not the direction he's going in
You’re Kendrick 😂
That ain’t got nothin to do with who would win in a battle
Barrett Lowe and she’s always been
jonathan marlowe crazy how an illiterate comment gets so many likes
Kid cudi has never beefed with Kendrick. Rory need to chill. 😂
Y’all know Joe is gone have something to say about Drake bringing Cole out lmao
Damn...
Josh Ervin Drake brining out his enemies/competition on his tour is looked at as a power move in my eyes. Drake sonned them.
Alexis489 Or maybe they’re actually friends, why y’all niggas always want some negative shit to happen? 🙄
Wade County I never said I wanted anything negative to happen. What Drake has done IS a power move.
All y’all are weird for havin a debate about this 5 days later. Relax
They done forgot about K dots Bet Hip Hop awards cypher verse.. he would wash Sean.
that was years ago, artist improve overtime and both have definitely ascended different levels in rap. Give both artist an opportunity.
Too old
Wouldn't be sweep though
Kendrick in 7
Rendani Nefale Kendrick in 3
Yea pick ya poison. Who u want K. Dot, K. Lamar or Kung Fu Kenny? Big Sean ain't got enuff ammo.
Sean got bars but Kendrick will wash Sean
Based on your name I can already tell your answer is biased 😂😂😂
@@Muziq103 he ain't lie tho, lol..
Kendrick in 7
@Romy Taylor 😂😂😂😂 NOOO
Kendrick is one of best rappers ever🐐but Big sean is a dope artist too just don't underestimate him Fellas💯
Kung-Fu Kenny Family the difference is the label situation 🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
Big Sean is meh...
Kendrick is eating Sean. EATINGGG sean
kl def top 25
lol big Sean would get killed by kdawg. Big Sean hasn't had a good album since Detroit
Kendrick has words for drake on deep water on Dre album...he already warned em he wit it...
And drake replied multiple times
Willie Beaming and Kendrick replied on the heart part 4
Lmao he did not did him on deep water u niggas reach for shit so hard I swear
Musicheals yes he did bro 😭😭 they nominated 6 to carry em... double entendre
Big KRIT gets no love he the only one directly indirectly addressed the Kendrick control verse off the control beat
Not true Joey badass responded
Meek replied on ”ooh kill em”
No papoose did too. But it went silent. He roasted Kendrick
After looking back at the discography Sean Don underrated
Big Sean discography trash
Dope that Royce came on
Big sean underrated. He got bars.
obh goonie gang I agree....I feel like rappers such as Cole & Kendrick are the ULTIMATE favorite rappers for Hypebeasts.....no disrespect to them dudes by any means
Rory has no idea why people like Kendrick😂😂😂😂
I love and respect Sean as much as the next person, but let's not. Let's just...not. Kendrick won a Pulitzer. 🤦🏿♀️
Bravo!👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Tbh all you gotta do is listen to his Black Friday and control verse and you’ll automatically know who’s better lmao only person that’s near Kendrick is Cole. Excluding the veterans.
so? lol a bar for bar deconstruction of Sean's rhymes show that he could definitely go head to head with Kendrick. Winning the Pulitzer prize shows Kendrick's talent of weaving content into lyrics, but Sean could DEFINITELY hold his own.
@@fromthehills814I never said Sean couldn't hold his own. I have nothing but respect for his artistry and wordplay. I just don't think he would win. Kendrick is just different. Imo. 🤷🏿♀️
The Greatest Of Our Generation control verse was overrated his best line wasn’t his it was kurupt
It's been 8 months Joe since you said Diddy was gonna take care of Em.What happened to that Joe?Were you lying to get more views ?
😂😂
Samael Blackblade shit probably happened behind scenes .. you think diddy gonna get on a track ???
@@williebeaming7597 Diddy aint even do nothing behind the scenes. Possibly a conversation at most but i doubt that. Em don't have to listen to Diddy.
How did Rory get Joe in trouble with Big Sean when Joe was talking shit about Big Sean all the time? Smh NOW Big Sean is a "friend of the show". I know we love the podcast and here for the laughs and all but Joe shouldn't talk about anybody else ever in life on this podcast.
We ain't beefing. I said "Yes yall are" lol had me dying
How they trolling Cudi like that LMFAO
COMPLEX had this entire beef timeline and they deleted smh
Richard Tran complex always tries to stay as non confrontational as possible... anything that might “hurt” someone’s feelings is a NO GO... unless it comes from Nebraska, she’s a delusional feminist
I love both artists. They are both creative geniuses in the studio🔥🔥
Rocafella chain but you can still get eithered
Ether 😂
Sean & Kendrick Will Never Bring Their Families Into This
The good ol' days
Yeah the podcast was better back then
Sean can punch like Foreman and Tyson
Joe that’s a flat out lie Lmaooo I remember you saying 100% that you and slaughterhouse used to “race to the booth” to record verses first/better than each other and get on songs 😂 friendly rivalry but Joe contradicts himself here 8:40
For real. Him and Joell used to go back and forth about who had the better verse on the first slaughterhouse album. There's got to be at least 5 videos that shows them beefing and who had the better verse. Hell they used to have have compositions about who can run faster him or Joell
The Slim Latino idk if I’m reading too much into it but he was being specific to say “competition with my friends” friends being keyword maybe he only really views nickel as his actual friend and not Joel or crook....j.s
@@JAYE94611 Exactly, back when it was Joe Budden TV
I've asked Joe once on Twitter something along the lines of "out of Royce, Crook, and Joell. Who do you view as competition?" And Joe replied with, "None, all fam."
hes kinda like trump like that. means different things in different contexts
Don’t sleep on BIG SEAN
😴
Rob Grant Big Sean is a lover not a fighter.....
He ass
djdrestyles77 that is the shit
djdrestyles77 he complete destroyed Kendrick on no more interviews
Sean will definitely do good in a battle but Kendrick might edge it but I would love to see them go at it this would be good for rap but I doubt this happen because the snippet was old
Lmaooo joes reaction to hearing Cudi’s name made me chuckle
FRIVILOUS RAP BEEF LMAO
Sean about to make a "idfwy 2" lol
Joe never competed with friends for fun? In anything in life? Lol when he watch this back he gon be like wtf was I thinking
SEAN NOT TOUCHING KENDRICK QUIT DEBATIN,,
Boy y’all really backing Big Sean all of a sudden
Kaylen Howard been a Sean fan PERIOD
cuz big sean can really rap
H_ cipher He’s alright.
When it comes to this topic people overrate Kendrick’s rapping ability and underrate Big Sean. This is unpopular but in terms of pure RAPPING I got my money on Sean. Whether he raps better or not it won’t matter because some Kendrick fans would go crazy over some mediocre or decent sht he does.
⛈ Bars mean nothing in a battle if there’s no content in the bars.
The most iconic diss tracks are iconic because of the content not because of wordplay.
💯💯
If you think Kendrick would wash Big Sean, go listen to "Paradise" by Big Sean. The extended version. That second verse was definitely aimed at Kendrick, and he was spitting.
Be Eazy exactly and 4th quarter
and thats why kendrick hit him back with heart pt4 and humble but sean aint want no smoke and never responded
@@artofmajic no more interviews
Nickyy Smiles that was before heart 4
Be Eazy you heard look out for detox?
Joe think of friendly competition as a " iron sharpeners iron, steel sharpeners steel" type of thing bro
I didn't know Royce produces ! Dope
DaveyDeluxe Royce is so talented
The heart part 4.....did y’all forget Kendrick already had words for Sean...humble...cmon guys
Joshua Blair Right. Sean didn’t want it. Leave it at that.
@@sanantoballa4834 facts my guy lol..
Thank you wtf?? Literally gave his ass bars first verse the heart pt 4
Kendrick and Sean don’t gel well on a song of any kind cause at their best flow/verse don’t mesh. They just spar as writers, which would be a better debate.
Still pick Kendrick
They twinning with those jeans 😂
Sean should be in the top 5 rapper today discussion but he doesn’t have as much clout as Kendrick ,drake, or cole.
The overall universal agreement seems to be that sean would do good but Kendrick would win without a doubt
E Money ha nope how you figure
You can tell they don’t listen To Kendrick Lamar.. just album stuff smh
Sean got more rhyme skills, he a natural talent
Big Sean to me is one of the more underrated rappers this past decade. Always been a top 10 guy to me because his punches are so witty & he doesn’t lack. That saying Kendrick has been literally THE TOP GUY in hip hop for some time now. Lyrically, flow wise, even conceptually album wise he’s far ahead in that regard. I’d hate to see Sean go down & people clown him for that cus he’s a artist who’s far ahead many many others
They did have beef. Everyone in Kendrick class had beef with him after the Control verse. Sean just brought it back to life with No more interviews.
Same thing I've been saying
Sean is probably the most balanced artist of our generation. Mad underrated. Dude doesn’t spit weak verses like ever
Summerz School Scotty finally somebody said it
"This here is what I DO DO?''
Josh Samuel you make it seem like that line is the context of the whole verse. Don’t Dhalsim reach to sound insightful.
Kendrick you expect to win and wouldn't be unwise to feel that way. But Sean is capable enough that you still want to see the fight.
big sean was disgruntled at people saying kendrick got him on, 'control' and 'holy key'. it officially STEMMED when sean came at kendrick on 'NO MORE INTERVIEWS'.
Big Sean is actually more of a battler...
That's how he got his name buzzing...battling...punchlines...bars.
Kendrick is exactly what they said...an MC...battling isn't his style or lane. As much as I love Kendrick as an artist...I can't name one punchline that wowed me. Kendrick is the better artist though.
But if he step into the battle arena...he basically coming out of his lane into a world Sean already made his mark in....long day ahead. Sean would most likely get in his ass 😂😂😂
But Kendrick's popularity would prevail because yall gone ride his dick no matter what he says 🤷🏿♂️.
The Control verse says everything bro
And the heart pt 4
@@futuretwistamusic3499 Quote a punchline. Good verse, hella shock value....I loved it....but no. MC Battling wise? No. It looks good to take shots when you the only person shooting 😂😂
Quan Cuffie you sleep on Kendrick but it would be a good battle
@@bg23allday1 I've done nothing but praise Kendrick but sure...I'm sleep 😂😂
Big sean wows ppl more than kendrick bars wise??? Lmfaooo joe get this man off the show
Ridiculous take. I can’t remember more than one Sean rap song. Kendrick interludes be hard and clever as hell. They’re just different.
Don't underestimate Big Sean he's punchy. That is his advantage over Kendrick. Kendrick CAN rap but isn't punchy and punchlines win in battles a lot.
Big Seans punches are corny tbh
Kendrick IS "Punchy," he just haven't used as many since he's gotten older. y'all must not know that Kendrick use to battle rap.
Yokai then you don’t know rap and should listen to Kpop. Big Sean is a beast
👀👀👀!
Kendrick can give a great story in an album with a lot of context, but he don’t have better punchlines than Big Sean. And if y’all bring up the Control verse, he didn’t outrap Big Sean. People overrated the shit out of that verse just cuz he dropped some names.
Iron sharpens Iron, Joe. You know that.
It’s Q season, shoutout TDE
Kendrick was talking about Big Sean on The Heart Part 4, right?
Funny how Joe says he’s never competed with his friends in anything, but I VIVIDLY remember him racing Joel Ortiz on an early episode of Joe Budden TV. Like if you remember that race. Classic.
Joe has definitely competed with his friends, he used to compete with Joell all the time ON THIS CHANNEL lol
I think Sean’s “no more Interviews” Sparked the rap beef, or “bounce back”
Big Sean turns into little Sean if he battles Kendrick that's a fact
I wish me and joe budden could have a honest conversation because I know joe budden knows I read the things that could be fixed in hip hop.
Come on Joe you and Stacks used to go at each other on the clue tapes
Competition is normal, healthy, and necessary amongst people close to you.
Kendrick nasty Shaun nice too
R.I.P NIPSEY HUSSLE
The beef stems from.... you know what. Ask Big Sean when the last time he spoke to Pat
ho is that?
Honestly, after MGK/Eminem’s beef, I believe either of them could cook up a stylistically good and catchy diss track. Some good wit and some fire 808s can go a long way in 2019...
Ok for the Kendrick fans who claimed Sean never responds in this rap beef clearly got no idea how many subs Sean gave Kendrick
Here’s a list of the few:
1)No More Interviews
2) Me, Myself & I
3) On Everything ft Travis Scott (Dj Khaled’s album)
4) Big Business ft 2 Chainz
Now don’t get it fucked up Sean definitely punched some jabs at Kendrick but y’all always go with popularity first
But Sean can't rap with Kendrick like that
Leon Farrell Smh nobody wants to hear fast paced intellectual raps 😂😂😂
Them 2 so scared of Joe, he just brushes everything they say off cause they yes men and scared of him
Sean is friend of the show and Joe LMAO
So kanye never gets the credit for producing it’s hard
And he does it in the biggest way, most "producers" just try to roll out as much as they can. Kanye won't leave until he gets that one track right. And he'll give everyone else credit for it. Kanye West, is underrated as fuck and under appreciated, and I'm saying that knowing full well he was at the top for a decade and will still be a heavy influence on the culture 50 years from now. I still think with all that in mind, he's underrated. No one understands him until years later, the appreciation for his work is missed in this time gap... like "famous" everyone be hating and misinterpreting that whole project, if they just had a bit more up top they wouldn't be so quick to hate and they would understand what he's been doing the last two years, and support him
They talking bout the leak that came out now ?
That “I Decided” album Sean did the same year DAMN came out was in my opinion just better as a entire album
wooow really?
5:51 Joe budden version of I always tell the truth even when I lie 😂
Sean is underestimated and Kendrick is overestimated, I feel like if Sean is on his No Favors or No More Interviews shit he'll tie with Kendrick and maybe even beat I mean shit he wasn't outshined by Em
Cap
@@bobmannion4548 Yea aight
Kendrick dissed Big Sean (Humble) AND drake (Deep Water) and there was zero responses from either one of them because they KNOW what’s up. 🥶
lyricallysupreme He didn't name drop none of them GTFOH with that shit
Kendrick is obviously the better lyricist but in a rap battle that shit doesn't matter. I think Sean would win
There's a video on Joe Budden T.V. Of Joe and Joell arguing whose Onslaught verse was better. You're telling me that's NOT competitive?
I mean I like Kendrick and Sean but Kendrick don't move me like that...frfr, no hate
LETTSSS GOOO. KING KDOT 👑
Big Sean from my city, but I'm sorry King Kendrick is the G.O.A.T
LeoTheLioness Queen not true Big Sean would win
@@houseofmatrix6174 I disagree
“All Cudi gonna do is light the sage and throw it in the A room and run out the studio.” 😂😂 Love Cudi, but that’s hilarious, dique sage grenades.
Exactly I don’t compete with my friends Smfh.... it’s weird
Romy Taylor yea but I don’t think of it as competing just fun
RealNettieB Men are different 😂
Too much testosterone to have fun
Compete compete with eachother yea, but inspire eachother to do better by friendly competition is healthy af
That's ridiculous. My best friend and I competed to see who would get eye glasses first.
You and all yo friends prolly poop 😂😂 at whatever ya do.
Joe coached that call with Royce 😌 friendly competition is motivation 😒 there's a difference when someone is producing in a p.o.v of competing with malice, envy or jealousy
Miss this pod
Loll big Sean would bar Kendrick out the room ya give Kendrick a lot of credit for aggressive lines loll Sean will punch him to death
Mad Max Same way Drake “barred out” Pusha with wordplay on Duppy Freestyle?
Bars mean nothing in a battle unless there’s content in the bars.
Mad Max exactly Big Sean with the W
For real. Sean been going through some personal shit lately. I'm happy his working on music again. Heard a snippet on Instagram 🔥🔥🔥👏
Yeah you being biased. Kendrick gave that man bars on the heart pt 4, humble, Dna and element. If yall was really rap fans like yall said yall would speak on it
This isn’t even a debate!
Why Joe always wanna start some rap beef..? Lol
His whole rap career was nothing but beefs
I thought "humble" was a direct diss song towards big Sean