The Best Goth Albums Of All Time?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- Far Out Magazine produced a list of the 10 best goth albums of all time. I take a look at the list to see how accurate it is, and I provide my own version of the top 10.
Bands included in both lists are: Fields Of The Nephilim, The Sisters Of Mercy, Lycia, Dead Can Dance, the Cure, Clan Of Xymox, Bauhaus, The Damned, Siouxsie And The Banshees, Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds, Joy Division, Christian Death and The Mission.
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Why all these comments like “as a non-goth who’s always liked goth music”?? You like goth music? You’re goth! You don’t need face paint or to get certified by your local goth authority! What is this conformist BS? You can be many things. Life ain’t exclusive.
The problem is that the label "goth" for a person is generally regarded as including their self-presentation (clothes, etc.) and their attitude, as well as their musical taste. No wonder people get confused. I think this is one reason why old school goths would always say they weren't goths. Saying that someone who likes goth music is a goth is a bit like saying that someone who likes country music is a cowboy.
I was a teen in the USA in a Southern state when the post punk/Goth scene was emerging. Punk rockers, death rockers, Goth, Dark Wave/synth all hung out in a collective. It was not uncommon to see a punk wear a Bauhaus T-shirt(Seeing Agnostic Front singer wear Xmal Deutschland tshirt at one of their shows)dating among different scenes. Hell we had skater Goths. But for some reason, the scene(s) got insular & seperation occured, conformity seeped in the individual scenes. The Clan of Xymox singer had a bottle thrown at him for wearing a Black Sabbath t-shirt. i have musical ADHD, so it was hard for me to go to various shows of different genres getting shit from various individuals for going to these shows. To this day it still happens, I love 60's psych rock, Krautrock, Astor Piazolla tangos but listen Echo & the Bunnymen with the same excitemen tas I did when I was 12y/o.
I'd count myself as 'Goth adjacent'. I have several of these albums, used to go to Goth night at Rock City in the late 80s / early 90s, and have seen a few Goth bands (FotN, The Mission, Ghostdance), but if I was going to label myself, I'm still heavy metal. : -) Now, excuse me while I go Spotify that Christian Death album,....
Because there is a certain look and attitude for a goth. Take way the make up, the nihilistic tendencies and black draconian clothing then you just have the music..😉
@@jasonturner2206 For some Goth can be more than just a look or music, it is an aesthetic that embraces music and clothes, but also theatre, literature and movies.
Disintegration is a spectacular record. One of the greatest complete records of all time IMO.
Agreed.
Great album. Hardly goth.
I like how it bridges the gap between goth and neo-noir/cyberpunk.
I think it's over produced and mainstreamy
Totally agreed. In my top 10 of all genres (and I come from ProgRock.!). This is not just a goth masterpiece - it´s a music masterpiece.
Pornography was and is the soul and embodiment of Gothic at the same time.
I mean the Gothic, that Kafka's psychological painly depths, not the Victorian era playing - that was really quite secondary, although I guess it's different nowadays.
Nico is the Gothmother! Her lp trilogy The Marble Index (1968), Desertshore (1970) and The End (1974) set the foundations in terms of sound, lyrics and atmosphere, being the primordial seeds of Goth.
Together with Velvet Underground luminary John Cale as her producer and arranger, they inspired and influenced several of Goths most important acts. Nico started dressing entirely in black, dyed her hair henna and used dark eyeliner in the late 60s, predating the Goth look and "heroin" chic by years.
- Bauhaus went on tour with Nico in 1981 and covered John Cale's Rosegarden Funeral Of Sores on their In The Flat Field lp in 1980.
- Siouxsie covered the Velvets Venus In Furs and also Cale's song Gun on her Through The Looking Glass lp in 1987. Cale produced her 1995 album The Rapture and toured with The Creatures in 1998.
- Joy Division covered the Velvets Sister Ray, in an interview Peter Hook named Cale as one of his music gods
- The Sisters Of Mercy covered Sister Ray by The Velvet Underground
- Christian Death covered Venus In Furs in 1993
Between 2008 and 2012 Cale did some gigs with various guest musicians in honour of Nico, labelled A Life Along The Borderline: A Tribute To Nico. Among the musicians were Peter Murphy, Lisa Gerrard, Soap&Skin, Mark Lanegan and several others.
Absolutely !!!
My mate and I formed a Goth Band and called ourselves, the Janitors of Lunacy
There is no denying TVU’s influence - a great comment, thank you! 🙏🕯️
Thank you for including Ashes! I always have a toss up between that and Catastrophe Ballet. I'm 51 years old. When Disintegration was released it was so much needed and they delivered. As a teenager I always played it from start to finish. It always puts me in a truly magical place still to this day like I'm hearing it for the first time all over again. Give it another try and try it in it's entirety instead of dissecting it. It's a perfect balance and is up there with one of the greatest albums of all time. Thank you for doing this list. I enjoyed it very much.
Thanks so much for your comment! It’s really great to hear differing opinions. Such a hard list to make! But it’s here in the comments that shine a light on a different perspective - thank you!
I too love this album by the Cure, I think it's their last brilliant album. It's a must to listen to in entirety. It was also the last year I worked in the music industry, managing a music shop... remember those... Disintegration was a new release that year, and it got played many, many times 😊
11. Mass - Labour of Love
10. X Mal Deutschland - Tocsin
9. The Sisters Of Mercy - First And Last And Always
8. Play Dead - The First Flower
7. Dead Can Dance - Dead Can Dance
6.The Birthday Party - Junk Yard
5.Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
4. The Cure _ Faith
3. Siouxsie and the Banshees - The Scream
2. Bauhaus - In the Flat Field
1 The Virgin Prunes - if I Die I die
Man i love the Birthday Party
First and Last and Always uses a rythym from an Irish jig as its basis.
Thanks for turning me onto that Fields of Nephilim album! I think The Top by the Cure is an under-appreciated goth album. I love so much of the Christian Death catalog. Ashes is fantastic. But my favorite related work is Shadow Project's first album.
Fields of the Nephilim should be on every top 10 list regardless of genre. They're just amazing
@@GroinFaceGroin Agreed. Wish they would release some new stuff! 🤞
@@ByCandlelight666 better yet get the original lineup back together!
I'd completely forgotten how amazing The Mission's "Gods Own Medicine" is. Playing it now and falling back in love with this band. Definitely bringing back some great memories for me.
That was my gateway band/album. They were eventually eclipsed by other bands, but that album especially deserves to be revisited.
listened to the damned - phantasmagoria for the first in 25years after watching your video. i really enjoyed that album. thank you.
Ahh that’s fab - isn’t Sanctum Sanctorum just class!
Only Theater of Pain by Christain Death, Nature Unveiled by Current 93, The Great Annihilator by The Swans
No. You don't know what Goth is. Cringe comment.
@@clvrswine Wow! Someone is cranky today! 😂
@@RedEyedCat1812 Who are you to argue with the goth police?🤣 Great additional picks btw🖤
@@ninasofie2250 🖤thank you. I love Roz Williams, an amazing poet/lyricist. Check out the song “Flowers” that he did with Gitome Demone, if you haven’t already!
No such band as ‘The’ S W A N S. (No such band as ‘The’ Pixies.) Automatically gonna get yer feelings hurt with these subtleties-sorry.
Elizium will always be my #1!
Sublime.
The first 3 are competing for my favorite goth album
Elyzium was my introduction to the Nephilim, and I fell in love instantly. The way it's crafted to sound almost like one continuous piece is just incredible. "The Nephilim" is still my preferred album just because it straddles the line between the raw, spaghetti-western "cow-goth" of Dawnrazor and the more symphonic Elyzium, but really my favorite Nephilim album depends on how much "giddyup" I've woken up with on a given day.
@@worshiptheanimal greatest album of all time.
Speaking as a non-goth who still likes a lot of goth that Far Out list looks like the typical list compiled for people who don't no much about goth by people who don't really like it. I would include First & Last & Always and Ju Ju in my own top 10 , and it feels obligatory to have Bauhaus, but liek you I prefer The Sky's Gone Out. I would also have Alien Sex Fiend - Acid Bath, UK Decay - For Madmen Only , Virgin Prunes - If I Die I Die and James Rays Gangwar's first album.
Some solid picks.
Nick Cave was one of my favorite artists. Until I found out that he is an eager supporter of the Natsi terr0r1st state of Ezrael. Now I hate him.
Thank you for including Fields of the Nephilim in your personal Top 10...
I love the Cure. Disintigration is an awesome album, the first one I heard, I prefer Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me from that time period. But Pornography is their best Goth album. This band evolved over the years and left some goth behind, but they still made great music throughout their entire career. Well done mate.
@@Nadinetherescuehound thank you! 🖤💀
Faith?!?
Q: How many goths does it take to change a light bulb ?
A: None, they'd rather stay in the dark
Hard but I think My personal top ten is
01 - Sopor Aeternus - Dead Lovers' Sarabande
02 - Siouxsie and the banshees - Juju
03 - The Cure - Disintegration
04 - The Sisters of Mercy - Floodland
05 - Clan of Xymox - Twist of Shadows
06 - Christian Death - Only Theatre of Pain
07 - Devil Doll - Dies Irae
08 - Depeche Mode - Black Celebration
09 - The Mission - Children
10 - Cocteau Twins -The Pink Opaque
Extra shout out to In the Flat Field... Phantasmagoria... ...If I Die, I Die.... Natural History... Night Time and Sleep In Safety
Nice picks!
The Sisters are not goth
@@rsrmotoltd1144 True 😆😉
Depeche Mode is not goth. They are primarily synth-pop.
@@rsrmotoltd1144 Um... yes, they objectively are, as defined by their music.
"The Sisters are not goth"
My list includes 'Faith' by the Cure and 'Garlands' by the Cocteau Twins... His list is solid.
Garlands is artrock not goth..
Amazing video and really fun to watch. I'd need at least 25 to even attempt a list because you gotta have some "Jesus Egg That Wept" and some The Moon Lay Hidden Beneath A Cloud in there. But as far at top 10's go, you're spot on. Cheers! -Scott
Comparing the Sisters of Mercy to The Mission is very weird switch.
Very underwhelmed by the original list. No Nephilim is an absolute disgrace. Your list corrected that mistake so thank you.
Okay, as a Gen X goth, you have to include Fields of the Nephlim, London after Midnight, Black Tap for a Blue Girl, Christian Death, The Swans, Mission UK and for new acts Boy Harsher for sure! Totally agree with the Sky Has Gone Out!!!!
Enjoyed the video and commentary. Was pleased to see Phantasmagoria mentioned. The fantastic track, The Dog on their previous album offered a taste of things to come with Sanctum Santorum. I would also definitely include Floodland and God's Own Medicine on my list. For The Cure I'm partial to Seventeen Seconds and The Mask from Bauhaus. And finally, want to give an honorable mention to Serpentine Gallery by Switchblade Symphony.
Gratitude.
@@toddhill7483 Thank you! Ahhh, Switchblade are an amazing band - great choice! 👍💀
Never have I agreed so much with a top ten list!! Definitely gonna subscribe
@@omahathesynthman Thank you so much! 👍🦇
Never heard of Lycia. Cold is such a great find for me. Thank you.
With Siouxsie and the Banshees, Tinderbox is generally my most favorite album of theirs, it's such a relaxingly dark album ("The Sweetest Chill" and "92 degrees" are just LOVE). That said, I understand that Juju was a major album that set the stage for the goth sound (well one of them anyway lol) so I'm not bothered that it gets all the praise it does, it really deserves it.
Honestly, the list was a mixed bag and I generally will roll my eyes at a proclaimed "goth" list that includes non-goth music. I like Nick Cave and This Mortal Coil but their music isn't goth. Dark? Sure. But goth has a certain sound to it that makes it what it is and those albums just don't fit that sound. I'll give the list some credit, at least they featured some classics but that's about all I can give it lol.
Your personal list was a lot better, I agree with all your choices (especially Floodland for SOM, I think it's more iconic as well). If I were to throw in 2 of my own that I think are pretty great and could be considered a "classic", Switchblade Symphony's "Serpentine Gallery", so many great songs like "Bad Trash", "Wallflower" and of course the hottest popular track, "Clown". I just feel that when it comes to 90s goth, this album was a classic for the darkwave genre. And sure Siwtchblade Symphony moved away from darkwave into making darker trip-hop type music but there's no question that their debut Serpentine Gallery was a huge classic for 90s goth.
My other choice would be "Head Over Heels" from Cocteau Twins. That dreamy lush guitar with the dark soundscape and Elizabeth Frazier's ethereal vocals, how could one not love it? Considering it was their last goth album before they started moving towards a more dream pop sound, I totally think it deserves some more recognition.
I looooove your album selection btw! And, thank you for including Dead Can Dance and Christian Death on your favorite list. You have good taste in "goth" music. 😉
@@isaiahlewis6627 Thank you so much! 🦇💀
... Why "thank you", is this a favour ?
I had listened to only theatre of pain a couple times with some friends back in the day, was a great album, but my influences took me elsewhere, (punk, death/black metal). One day in a record store I saw the ashes album. Newly released. Bought it, took it home, dropped the needle, and it immediately became my favorite album. Was nothing that I had remembered them in theatre, and most of my goth friends, were skeptical about it. Honestly they didn't like it at first. Back then, lacking today's technology, our worlds were much smaller, and it truly felt like that album was made solely for my ears only. Great to see it on your list. And I've also walked away with something that gripped me that Ive never heard before, ( by no means am I well versed in goth) thanks to this video, and that's Lycia. I refrained from doing a full dive and just ordered the vinyl instead. Great video.
@@lokijuytmongolito2966 Thanks so much for that comment. Always great to hear from a fellow Ashes-lover! So pleased that you discovered Lycia too! 🕯️💀
Love your list! Much better than the original I think as well. But yeah, every time I put on This Corrosion it does feel like it lasts years xD I love a lot of 90s goth personally so my list would probably include Die Laughing's Heaven in Decline, Irony of Fate by Love Like Blood, and The Shroud's Drowning Dreams. I also really love Flowers For Agatha but I'm not sure if they ever had a full length album.
Love this video and your dry humour! I’ve always loved goth music since my teenage years (now 53) but never actually had the look. Maybe it’s not too late! 😂 However I’ve only really known about the Cure, Bauhaus and SOM, so great to have sone other albums to check out
@@andrewpike1993 Thank you - and please do delve into the wonders of these albums! 🕯️💀
Gotta agree with others that your list is better than theirs. I would include "If I die, I die£, by The Virgin Prunes. They're a bit too left field for most ppl though.
The Dave-Id tunes kind of ruin it for me.
Dead can Dance " Within the Realm of a dying Sun" my Number One. And I miss Cocteau Twins " Garlands".
Not really a goth band, but the dark prog band Van Der Graaf Generator has an album called Pawn Hearts, and it has a special place in my dark heart. 🖤
I love Phantasmagoria, agreed, Floodland outweighs First last n always, love The Mission, great choice 👍👍so happy you included Fields of the Neph...must listen to that again, it's been ages!! Love any Cure. You're brilliant, cheers mate ❤️😊
never thought of Joy Division as being Goth.
They were proto-goth. Joy Division and the Banshees created the musical environment, but Bauhaus were the first real goth band.
Definitely, Phantasmagoria needs to be in! An underappreciated classic.
@@Aurora2097 Great isn’t it! Sanctum: what a song! 🖤
@@ByCandlelight666 Shadow of Love! My favourite.
I've for long been a fan of post punk, even some industrial, and a few bands on this list (Bauhaus for instance, but I also own Floodland), but I've never really done a proper deep dive into Goth(I've been slowly diving into Siouxie the last few weeks however). So this list (or both even tbh) are much apreciated! I'll go check each and every one of them out, and go from there!
That’s great to hear, Dennis - glad it’s of some use 👍 Those non-goth albums on the Far Out list are still good albums in their own right, so you will do well there 🙂
@@ByCandlelight666 I'll add those to the list as well!
Just so you know, while some post-punk (the dark post-punk) is goth, NO industrial music is goth. This is a common misconception, which I am not sure you hold, but just so you know- industrial is NOT a subgenre of goth. It is its own, separate genre of music with its own lineage.
I'd have put The Birthday Party instead of Nick Cave's work with the Bad Seeds. It also needs more Red Lorry Yellow Lorry and Pink Turns Blue. Maybe Crime & The City Solution (Rowland S Howard's band after The Birthday Party) too
Awesome that you topped it off with Christian death, hoped Nosferatu would get some love but I understand why not. Anyway thanks you called out some bands I hadn’t heard of previously. Love finding new music. I’m more metal than goth but I like what I hear from the scene over my many years lol
Once heard a credible source opine that The Doors were/are the original band.
Because a music critic once used the word "gothic" when reviewing a concert of theirs. I think in terms of musical style the Doors are what is called proto-gothic: they influenced the first goth bands but weren't goth themselves. (The Velvet Underground is another proto-goth band.)
Of Course, just listen to "Not to touch The earth", a very Dark Song.
Nico - Marble Index
Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath N.I.B.
@@juanrobertonavarroarellano1215 "dark" and "goth" are NOT synonymous, nor interchangeable. Dark does NOt equal goth.
"Of Course, just listen to "Not to touch The earth", a very Dark Song."
I just subscribed.
I am inspired to make my top 10 so here we go:
01 Diamanda Galas - Saint Of The Pit
02 The Birthday Party - Prayers On Fire
03 Swans - White Light From The Mouth Of Infinity
04 Miranda Sex Garden - Fairytales Of Slavery
05 Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
06 The Cult - Love
07 Killing Joke - Killing Joke
08 Sisters Of Mercy - First And Last And Always
09 Dead Can Dance - Within The Realm of Dying Sun
10 Siouxsie And The Banshees - Juju
I love to hear your reactions.
Some outstanding albums mentioned here. My favorite Killing Joke is Brighter than a Thousand Suns, but it's not loved by all KJ fans.
@@toddhill7483 I did only one album for each band so really killing your darlings.
Over all I think your list is better than their list, though I of course have to strongly disagree with you on Disintegration. Personal list (and limiting it to one album per band):
1. The Cure - Disintegration
2. Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
3. Fields of the Nephilim - The Nephilim
4. Sisters of Mercy - Floodland
5. Siouxsie & the Banshees - Juju
6. Bauhaus - Mask
7. The Cult - Love
8. Christian Death - Catastrophe Ballet
9. Killing Joke - Night Time
10. X-Mal Deutschland - Tocsin
A great list - nice to see some X-mal, and the inclusion of a Christian Death album in there - I like it!
Holy Crap! I have listened to The Cult and The Cure for near forty years now, never once had I considered either them as Gothic, though, you are absolutely correct with your surmisations, as I peer back through the years retrospectively!
Caught you compiling a list that I have listened 9 out of 10 to as a non-goth.
It is of course a great list to get into goth, but if they are really the best, it seems a little tropish.
@@needfoolthings What do you mean by "tropish?"
@@timothymaroney4497 trope-ish. Sounds too negative though.
I totally respect your list, Christian Death at #1, a band people forget and really should listen to. Good FOTN listing as well. Way more thought out than the magazine list.
I am not shitting on you @heroAntagonist, this was my experience.
gatekeeping in music was such a thing, particularly in high school. You weren't black metal enough if you didn't like Mayhem, you weren't death metal enough if you didn't like both mettallica and (add death metal band from the 90's not called Cannibal Corpse because they were in Ace Ventura), you weren't punk enough unless you liked Crass (or US hardcore band not called Black Flag or The Misfits), and you were not goth enough if you didn't like Christian Death.... or Tori Amos
Great personal list
I am pleased af to see The Damned on there
"When I was bed" is always so special to me as I remember waiting outside the crematorium as my dear friend was being cremated and I had this song playing on my DAP.
Far out Magazines list needs some serious work haha. Your list is better. My List: 10 Nighttime - Killing Joke 9 Unknown Pleasures Joy Division 8 juju -Siouxsie and the Banshess 7 Ocean Rain - Echo and the Bunnymen 6 Script of the Bridge - The Chameleons 5 Sisters of Mercy - Floodland 4 Children - The Mission 3 Pornography - The Cure 2 Elysium - Fields Of The Nephilm 1. Love - The Cult How anyone can miss deathcult / the cult off of top 10 goth lists is beyond me.
Your list is wonderful. Teignmouth by Love is Colder Than Death would be one of my picks (released in '91)
The Danse Society - There Is No Shame In Death
This was a great vid even if far out’s top 10 was seriously deficient, just because of finding out about bands both from your own top 10 and the suggestion of others in the comments section. My all time favourite goth album is FOTN Earth Inferno followed by Elizium, Nephilim. The mission GOM, Carved in Sand; Sisters Floodland; Cult Sonic Temple; All About Eve; Cocteau Twins Heaven or Las Vegas (brilliant title), New Model Army Vengeance; (but in listing these I fear I maybe mixing indie and goth, but if somebody else can mention Depeche Mode’s Black Celebration an album I love, then New Model can surely be offered). Anyways I’m definitely gonna research the many suggestions made here as I fear they may have passed me by
@@dawnrazor Thanks for the comment! Love your list - nice to see a few Mission titles on there. I love NMA too. Is it pure goth? Who cares - they’re a great band. But this is a tough list to make, as by the very title it’s very specific isn’t it! 💀
My first introduction to The Cure was the song "Burn" on "The Crow" soundtrack (such a good album). My first introduction to Souixie was "Peek-a-boo" which just played at my shitty retail job when I was a kid. So I bought every album I could find by these bands to find something similar. edit, wanted to add that my dad had Peter Murphy's solo album, so add "cuts you up" to the list of songs that introduced me to goth
@@denzoThirteenEleven Thanks for the comment - great to hear which albums got people into goth! 👍💀
Burn by the Cure is absolutely brilliant...the crow soundtrack is truly awesome 👍
Loved your video and recommendations. I’ve always adored most of Bauhaus releases and In The Flat Field is part of my early musical education. That’s why I get frustrated when I hear people saying that it starts with Dark Entries… Which is not true. That was an addition to some cd version and what you find on online platform nowadays. The original album rightly starts with Double Dare. The sequence Dark Entries /Double Dare doesn’t make much sense to me musically. As gorgeous as Dark Entries is, it wasn’t even on the album. I know this might sound like a minor quibble but it does pain me every time I see Dark Entries listed as the first track of such a masterpiece.
First time on your channel and subscribed straightaway. I prefer your list and mostly agree with yours. I love some Cure songs but never really got that into them. I would add Corpus Delicti - Sylphes, and something of Lacrimosa. I can’t remember which album it’s on but Bresso and Selle in Not are stunning and so full of emotion.
@@katclark3857 Thank you so much! And some great additions there! 🦇💀
I was an early '80's punk in L.A. I saw Christian Death with the Angelic Upstarts and Discharge. I was into goth but it wasn't "goth" back then. Anyway, about eleven years ago I was in the San Bernardino County Jail for a minute. The dude whose bunk was across from me was the nephew of the lead singer of Christian Death. I once visited a punk record store called "Toxic Shock" in Pomona, CA (that is where Rozz [?] was from, Pomona, I grew up in an adjacent city) where one of the owners told me they had him tied up in the back. The dude who was his nephew said that his apartment where he killed himself in Hollywood was FULL of real stolen headstones. Anyway, that's my bit. Cheers.
My top 10 ( in no particular order)
Christian Death: Catastrophe Ballet
The Cure: Pornography
DCD: Within the Realm of a Dying Sun
Cocteau Twins: Garlands
Bauhaus: Sun's Gone Out
Ann Clark: Unstill Life
Siouxie&the Banshees: The Tinderbox
Christian Death: The Only Theatre of Pain
The Cure: Faith
Dalis Car: The Waking Hour
In my opinion the best is First and last and always
OMG, I agree with almost everything you said!!! 😍
I started to panick a little when you put the sisters of mercy at number 3 😄but then my jaw dropped at no 1. 👏👏👏
I would have put Scott Walker’s Tilt and Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds’ Your Funeral My Trial instead, because these for me deserve to be on the list. Also I miss Diamanda Galas. Is it about goth rock or goth music in general? Dark Entries, by the way, is not in In The Flat Field, as far as I know. Anyway you have some interesting choices, and I also prefer Floodland or the early EPs to First And Last And Always, which is good but too formulaic musically speaking. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for the comment! It’s so tough to make a list of 10 goth albums! I approached my list like I was asked to recommend the 10 most iconic goth albums of all time - but it was hard! Diamanda Galas is great! Dark Entries is track 1 on In The Flat Field (at least here in the UK) 🙂
@@ByCandlelight666 , I got it on vinyl and it starts with Double Dare. I live in the UK. There must be different versions. Thanks again.
@@rodrigovalerosancho2234 Dark Entries was released as a single and added onto the CD reissues as part of the album. It's never on the vinyls.
@@rodrigovalerosancho2234 Also I must say that Tilt is a great choice. Out of his final, post-Climate of Hunter albums, this is the best one
I think The Drift is darker than Tilt, but Tilt is an easier listen. Totally agree about Your Funeral, although I don’t really think any Nick Cave music falls into the goth category. Maybe The Bad Seed and Mutiny EPs but even then not really. I think The Singer by Diamanda could fit, or Guilty, Guilty, Guilty.
cheers, good assessments. i prefer Spleen over DCD's debut. i think it's just as 'gothy' but has catchier tracks (maybe that's a bad thing). plus includes Avatar/Penumbra which is a personal favourite. You picked out some great tracks from the debut (Ocean and the Trial deserve mentions too). I'd prob pick Medusa over the Xymox debut for Back Door alone and include Xmal's Fetisch in any list.
Killing joke ????.. super G Band
you are a true connoisseur and your pick is a thousand times better!
Ahh, that’s a nice thing to say - thank you!
Enjoyed this, thanks. Will check out some of these albums esp Lycia. PS It's Julianne Ree-Gan not Ray-Gun.
Unknown Pleasures was goth before it even existed 😅
In the Flat Field/ Bela Lugosi's Dead 12"
Virgin Prunes If I die I Die
Siouxsie Juju
Sisters Emma (on 12") a great Hot Choclate cover
These pop up in my head... But Joy Division and Virgin Prunes are set in stone for me.
Unknown pleasures is post punk not goth in the strictest sense but they definitely broke ground for the goth scene. Try Suicide by Suicide from 1977. They were a pink bank that only had synths no guitar
It could be argued these guys were the precursor to the whole post punk/goth movement.
I would add Diamanda Galas The Litanies of Satan, Nosferatu Rise, Xmal D. Tocsin, Mephisto walz Eternal Deep, Ataraxia Ad Perpetuam Rei Memoriam, sooo many to just have 10 :P
Thanks for the comment - there’s a few I don’t know there, will check them out. Thank you! 💀
"The Litanies of Satan" is avant-garde, not goth.
Great list, and love that you put Ashes at top! Still have an imported copy of that CD in my collection! But I've got Fields of the Nephilim's second album (The Nephilim) at #1 on my personal Goth album list - mostly because it also ranks - and I'm not even sure there's a list for this sort of thing - as the most "occult" album I've ever heard. I'm not into the occult, but in the late 80s Carl McCoy's head emerged fully formed from my Moonchild poster and winked at me; yes, I was severely neuromodded; yes, you can blame Albert Hofmann for that; yes, "Last Exit for the Lost" happened to be playing, and yes, it was right at "that part" (you know, the beginning of the end, "This could be my last regress..."); but this song coincidentally sits at #1 on my Favorite 10 Goth Songs of All Time list, even back then, so of course McCoy would manifest like that and blow my mind; but this is the kind of stuff that a #1 on such a list is made from, I think. I don't "feel" that in the Far Out list at all.
So happy to see God's Own Medicine on your list..The Mission gets so overlooked in (at least North American) goth music conversations.
I think there are some records missing there...Type O Negative´s "Bloody Kisses", The 69 Eyes "Blessed Be" or "Paris Kills", Tiamat´s "A Deeper Kind Of Slumber", Fields Of The Nephilim´s "Elizium" all have their place in music history.
Best Goth album of all times:
The Marble index, by Nico.
Fantastic record, truly haunting music by John Cale, and possibly Nico's finest vocal performance, a very underrated, and completely rewarding release
Personally I prefer Desertshore but I’ll vote for any Nico.
The drumming on 'Frontier' - Dead Can Dance, since you mention it, is done on an oil drum full of water, that is deliberately leaking, so the tone subty changes as the song goes on.
Nick Cave is the king of dark music especially his early works. I would not have said tender pray for the list but perhaps The First Born Is Dead album
"Sure, THIS CORROSION lasts for several years...."
I lold. 😂. Thanks for that.
Great upload!!
TSOM driving conversion ratio: if it takes you 3 songs to travel from point A to point B, it will take approximately ONE TSOM song for the same.
When talking about Christian Death, people forget Atrocities, which I think is their best. I get ppl romanticize Rozz and forget Valor wrote most of Catastrophe Ballet and Ashes, but pre Sex Drug and Jesus era Valor wrote some of the best Goth music of all time. Plus Romeo's Distress is the only good song in OTP.
@@evwell3988 Atrocities is a great album. I like a lot of Valor’s CD. Well said! 👍💀
I saw all the goth and proto-goth bands in their infancy just as the goth scene broke away from punk. These included Bauhaus, the Banshees, the Cure and Joy Division. The first Psychedelic Furs album is a forgotten goth classic and I would even slip the first Killing Joke album in to any early goth album list. The death of Ian Curtis and a few years later the commercialization of the Cure ended my interest in the music but it was wonderful while it lasted. Thanks for flying the flag. Still love the music from that time.
Ashes has always been my favorite CD album (Probably because I heard it when it came out and it was how I was introduced to them). Your list was bang on, that other was WTF?
@@FrozenCharlottes Thank you!! 👍🦇
So few goth top tens (I've come across on youtube) - juju, floodland, skys gone out.. absolutely, but for me I would add The Nephilim (don't get elizium), The serpents egg by Dead can dance, and Garlands by the Cocteau twins as well as unknown pleasures. This is based on what I listen to. great video thank you
@@philanderson5138 No worries - and thanks for the comment! 👍💀
For me, the most controversial bit was that Sisters and The Cure keep getting included in goth lists. Love The Sisters. Love The Cure. Love Nick Cave. Couldn't honestly put any of them in a goth list.
Just having Christian Death makes me so happy but for it to be Ashes. *chefs kiss*
Difficult, very difficult. Every decade I have to rethink the list. Special mention for... no there are too many, we'll reread it with a list of one hundred or rather two hundred.
10 Mors Syphilitica - Mors Syphilitica
9 Un Mondo In Me - Neronoia
8 Flowers for The Rebels - Siglo XX
7 Against the Modern World - Sol Invictus
6 Wings of joy - Cranes
5 Ionia - Lycia
4 Ashes - Christian Death
3 Closer - Joy Division
2 From these wounds - Funeral
1 Reptil's House - Sisters of Mercy
YES. Both lists are solid. And I agree, 'Best' is different from 'Personal' list. Mine would be more personal. So, minus points for Far Out Not having Christian Death on their list. And for me, I'm happy that you included Dead Can Dance.
My Top 10 includes- Specimen
@@michael_galicia Specimen are great - good choice!
Absolutely AGREE on the adorable and brilliantly witty narrator's commentary and opinions. I'd have included PRINCESS TINYMEAT Sloblands. Ironically,
I own 90% of these LPs . Bought when they were released.
@@waynejensen9634 Thank you! Not heard of your suggestion - will check it out! 👍💀
I'm going to add Gene Loves Jezebel's "Promise" to the list since nobody else seemingly has. Their second album "Immigrant" was fairly gothic as well.
Absolutamente brillante tu lista. Gracias.
In the early 1990s I was going to a bar named La Nausée (Nausea) in Montréal. A reference to Sartre. There was a huge mural of the cover of The Sky's Gone Out on the wall.
@@hdufort Ahh, bet that was amazing? 🕯️💀
Hello,
Hard to choose ..
ok here is my list even if I would add maybe 10 more ;) 😂
1 THE SISTERS OF MERCY
First and last and Always the ep reptile house is amazing too ;)
2 BAUHAUS
In The Flat Field
3 DEAD CAN DANCE
Within The Realm Of The Dying Sun
4 CHRISTIAN DEATH
Only Theatre Of Pain .. Ashes is a masterpiece too!
5 THE CURE
Pornography
6 SIOUXSIE AND THE BANSHEES
Ju Ju
7 FIELDS OF THE NEPHILIM
Dawnrazor
8 COCTEAU TWINS
Garlands
9 VIRGIN PRUNES
If I Die I Die
10 JOY DIVISION
Unknown Pleasures
So hard to choose isn’t it! 10 isn’t enough 😭
I agree...a lot of missed opportunities on their list. I do admit that This Mortal Coil does slide into my list, but it was a bit before "goth" as a thing. Still a dark and curious album that shouldn't be overlooked! Enjoyed your picks too!
As a goth i agree with many of the choices made by far out and even your list . I think you both did a great job and mentioned some great tunes. I do agree with you that pornography was a brilliant album and a masterpiece in my book. But i dont understand why cocteau twins best album didnt make ether list surely it was a treasure. I know it might not be considered a goth band per se but every goth i know that is older than a baby bat has a copy of that magical album . I thought they should at least have been the wild card . Anywho , loved this video , great job on all the tunes and greetings from nyc , you are also a treasure. ❤
Greetings to you too - NYC is a place I miss very much! This list was so hard to make - so it’s great to get other opinions. I love the Cocteaus too - great band! 💀
I'd like to have seen March Violets in there somewhere, or maybe Red Lorry Yellow Lorry even.
You made a decent list there. Nice to see Lycia get some love. And I mostly agree with your take on the Far Out list. I would definitely swap some titles out of there and replace them with more solidly Goth entries. Maybe mix it up a bit with some Specimen, Rosetta Stone, or instead of a Bad Seeds album, go for The Birthday Party.
@@samhainkid Ah yeah - Specimen: great choice. So hard to pick just 10 lol!! 🦇💀
@ByCandlelight666 I love Specimen's campiness. It's a nice bit of levity in an otherwise somber melancholy genre, y'know? Same with Alien Sex Fiend. I like people who take the music seriously, but not themselves so much.
Nephilim in at four - you got my vote right there and then.
Kudos to you for including the rock-influenced bands -- Mission U.K., FoTN, and Sisters of Mercy. Good taste, mate.
@@AnyRoadAnyTime Thanks man!
My 2c worth, any list of best gothic albums that doesn't include Lydia Lunch's 13:13 either didn't live through the goth scene in the early 80s, or just misunderstood it. Lydia dripped goth ... As much as Siouxsie did ... But Lydia pulled no punches
Draconian A rose for the apocalypse or Arcane rain fell. Gothic metal but possibly a source of inspiration for a new top 10. Thank you for a great vid ❤
Andrew Eldritch once listed 'My Death' by Scott Walker as one of his favourite goth records.
Thanks for introducing me to Lycia! I really enjoyed my first few listens to Cold, and will seek out more. Several tracks would have not been out of place on a Dead Can Dance album. Very nice!
@@zeiram8230 You’re welcome! The Burning Circle And Then Dust would be a good 2nd Lycia album to try (if you haven’t already!) 💀
Well, it`s all a matter of personal taste, but I`d suggest Elizium by The Fields of the Nephilim as the most compact, conceptual, dark and addictive goth album of all history of that genre of popular music.
Love that album!
oh, thank you very much. I do agree mostly with your personal list. But remember, on the original vinyl lp "This Corrosion" does not last so long.
For me the greatest goth album is one of the earliest, For Madmen Only by UK Decay. Totally underrated and seldom even gets mentioned.
That Scott Walker album is really good. I think if some had heard enough of this "Goth" stuff , I think one would and could hear certain qualities in the work of other artist that compliment and or are very similar to those early bands that were branded that Genre.
There is sooo much more out there and to make a list as small as this is very unfortunate. Where's boy harsher? The leather Nun? Shizuka Miura? Bowies diamond dogs? Without that album you wouldn't have 'goth" . Or the Velvets.. Pale blue eyes.. "Down for you is Up" .
There is so much and they all have something to contribute in their own unique way and some are just replicas. Replicants that have mastered the past.
Also...... those early "goth" bands , especially Sioux, or the Cocteau twins or this mortal coil. refused to categorize themselves. Like sticking their work into a specimen jar and labeling it "Goth".
That's not who they were (free) . Its who you want them to be..
Just something to think about
People who are not listening to Scott Walker are missing out of some really weird and dark music. Bowie was a big fan which can be heard in some of his singing, and he covered Nite Flights.
There's a reddit post that collected several interviews of the big bands popular in the goth subculture, all of them were at best lukewarm to the "goth" label. Bauhaus, Sisters of Mercy, Siouxie didn't ask for the label.
I belonged to a music fandom that revolved around one band and some related bands and artists. I must have been to at least 25 concerts before I became sick and tired of the same sound, the same band and fan quirks, the repetitive lyric themes, etc.
I can't be a fan of only one genre any more.
'Floodland' might be more iconic than 'First and last and always', but compared to the latter it is not even goth but rather a pop album. 'First and last and always' is a 'killer with no filler'...
Hey I was just looking online and stumbled upon this. Never seen a VC channel which is so dedicated to Goth and Gothic New wave. 👋 Nice. I came up during these tremendous yrs of punk, goth, wave etc and contributed to its growth. My decades of collecting have many of those mentioned and so many more.
Oh and Scott who?
Subbed
@@vinylwood Ah, thanks so much for the comment and sub! I think there were a few other channels - but don’t think they post consistently. Random Goth Couple are great, just to say! 👍💀
Hi,
I’m a great fan of gothic rock/post-punk music and other dark elements (i.e. ethereal wave, darkwave), and it’s my favourite music genre of the 1980s. I love the sound, the pessimism surrounding the music, the darkness, and the way bands like the Cure, Siouxsie & The Banshees represented themselves as bands who revolutionized the genre. I even love the album artworks from the said albums by bands I cite as influences and inspirations.
What I love about those genres is that bands like Type O Negative and Paradise Lost cited the gothic rock genre as a main inspiration to their own music.
And also, great video!
@@ryanrooprai5104 Thanks so much Ryan! Yeah, agree - love it when other bands take the goth genre and put a spin on it with their own music 👍💀
@@ByCandlelight666 Thanks man.
What goth bands did Type O cite? I know Peter stated that Black Sabbath and The Beatles were his main influences, and Type O's music is the closest-sounding thing to Black Sabbath other than Black Sabbath.
I adore Disintegration and The Cure in general, but I agree that if they do a top 10, giving 2 spots to the same band is kinda cheap, and Pornography is as definitively goth, as it is great.
My top 10:
1. Only Theater of Pain by Christian Death
2. Tinderbox by Siouxsie & the Banshees
3. Floodland by The Sisters of Mercy
4. Burning from the Inside by Bauhaus
5. Pornography by The Cure
6. Bound by Naked Skies by Lathe of Heaven
7. October Rust by Type O Negative
8. Nighttime by Killing Joke
9. Is Nothing Sacred by Lords of the New Church
10. Rite of Darkness by Cursed Moon
Joy Division - Closer
The Cure - Faith/Carnage Visors and Pornography
Bauhaus - Sky's gone out
Siouxie Banshees - Thorn
Sisters of Mercy - Reptile House and Temple of Love ep's.
Dead Can Dance - all
This Mortal Coil- Filigree and Shadow
Kommunity FK - no mention of this one.
Ministry - 1st album hehe, and Halloween
Joy Division - Closer
Lead into Gold 2 eps
Skinny Puppy- Bites
Cocteau Twins