I feel like Ray Stevenson was truly meant for the Baylan role. He just embodies that character so well. So sad that he wasn’t able to see everyone’s reaction to him. RIP
No. Ray had that effect on fanboys. Same thing was said about Blackbeard. Same thing was said about Titus Pullo. The sign of a great actor is that you see them as their character, not irl. Example; Heath Ledgers Joker
What do you mean born to play Babylon? He is the only version of Baylor to ever exist or be portrayed in canon. Maybe if he was already a character from comics.
The look on Jeremy's face when he makes a bad joke about renaming "The Empire" and halfway through realises that he is probably 100% on target. Priceless.
When Ahsoka was trying to get the map by grabbing it I couldn't help but think what if she had some magical power like a force that would help her do it.
I’ve been watching Jeremy for 10 years now, if not longer. He’s found his grove with his editing, keeping his thoughts tight while also blending in humor. Very easy to get through his videos. He’s a beacon of consistency in an ever-changing world.
Yeah I found that odd. Like as someone who watched Rebels, Sabine's ignorance of the Force is a bit odd. You knew Ezra, you knew Kanan! The guy literally learned how to see with the Force! Why are you questioning this?!
She also has trouble using the Force because her midichlorian count is extremely low. It’s not just matter of belief, but the matter of talent as they mentioned.
I think Baylan is such a cool character because he is a dark side user through and through. He calls upon the dark side of the force but doesn’t fall to it. He’s a soldier and a pragmatist, not a selfish villain
How has he not fallen to the dark side. He is willing to kill millions for his own power. That sounds like a dark side user to everyone... you don't have to be sith to fall to the dark side. The witches of dathomir are non sith darksiders.
It means Andor is the ONLY decent Star Wars content we've gotten since Revenge of the Sith. 🤷🏻♀️😕 And some say the prequels weren't sh*t either, sooo.... um, yikes. lol
I love that Jeremy has turned to the dark-side. He started Disney strong, but recognized halfway through the ST that something was wrong with the Force.
Funny story, my mom has been watching Ashoka by itself and while she’s liking it she is confused on what’s happening. So I forced her to watch Clone Wars and Rebels which she said was for children. We have watched the Maul and Ashoka episodes and Rebels finale and now she wants to watch nothing but Clone Wars and Rebels.
Are you guys insane? Clones wars IS for kids. The Genre is literally “Kids”. The rating is PG… in case you forgot that means Parental Guidance. Parental. As in parents… who have to guide their kids. Yeah, it’s got violence in it, but so does teen titans and Avatar and Naruto and a whole bunch of other shows for kids. Just because it’s violent or shows death doesn’t mean it’s for adults only.
That would be cool... it just involves pretending the sequel trilogy never happened. Which I would support. Thats why I dont give a shit about this show, I have no interest in these disney shows that lead to Luke failing and becoming a coward, Leia creating the most corrupt government in the history of Star Wars, Han failing at everything.
I will never get tired of Jeremy punching me in the face at the end of every video I realized the other day I've been watching his videos for over 5 years. it punched me almost as hard as Jeremy does. it's like the feeling you get when you see someone you went to school with but toa greater effect. thanks for the wonderful memories you created for us film geeks Jeremy a movie never feels complete until I talk about it with you. much love mate, cheers 🍻
Baylon Skoll & Shin Hatti are definitely the coolest characters in this show. Seems pretty clear they are gearing up towards a Shin redemption towards the end, so I am excited to see how they incorporate her in Star Wars in general going forward as a somewhat rival to Sabine. She should be an awesome, conflicted character
Maybe towards the end of the series or in the Dave filoni movie but according to leaks she remains a dark jedi at the end of the series and her and baylan stand with Thrawn
I truly believe that not a single person working at Lucas Film was hired based on merit. That’s the only reason I can think of that explains the state of the company.
could you imagine!? but that's what we were all hoping the sequels would be too...a flourishing jedi order under the tutelage of a wise Luke at his most powerful. They're never going to do it well.
But the can’t retcon Rey. You can’t retcon Kathleen Kennedy or her absolute dumpster fire bullshit decisions. Luke is a fearful asshole who murders colleagues in their sleep now and Rey is flawless, because man bad, women good. God Kathleen Kennedy is a piece of shite.
@@alexm2889 knowing Disney's recent track records, even with a show under Dave Filoni's direction resulting in something "meh"... To be completely honest, i dont think there's hope for Star Wars fans
And that is why they won't do it. Taking a page from The Last Jedi, where they are basically trolling the fandom to just say how things arent going to go how you think....
@@Youarekenough I think filoni is extremely overrated too. A lot of the animated stuff is cheesy and obvious. It's really kids content, even though there are some decent character arcs and action in specific episodes (between the filler!). You see similar on the nose fetch quests with predictable lessons in the worst parts of mando. Even mando was cool at first, but now they've all showed that they were nothing more than gimmicks and couldn't land the plane.
i Got the impression that the one thing that separates Skoll from other force users, is that he gets your wikipedia bio through the force. He got a full read from both Ahsoka and Sabine as soon as they were nearby. It's how i think he got the read on what happened to anakin.
I had thought it would be the job of the Lucasfilm writing room to ensure strong continuity among all these different projects. Then I heard they were really proud of Aurebesh translation on some random thing, and I was like “ohhhh.”
Ray Stevenson's character didn't know about Anakin. He read Ahsoka's mind. Just like he did with Sabine afterwards, he mentioned something from their minds/past to throw them off and convince them to stand down. He meant it when he said to Ahsoka that he'd rather not use violence or something to that degree. He showed that by sheathing his lightsaber and talking his way out of fighting Sabine.
@@Infinite_Ethan03Yeah big agree. I think he might have HEARD about Anakin that's just about it. The line "Everyone in the order knew ABOUT Anakin Skywalker, few would live to see what he became" says to me he didn't KNOW him personally like Ahsoka or Obi-Wan did, just heard stories. He was the legendary "Hero Without Fear" gotta love me some propoganda BS lol. Anakin was petrified a lot of the time, especially about losing those he loved, which is WHY he turned into Darth Vader. But naaaaaaaaah let's just put a TON of pressure on what, a 19, 20 year old man? That'll be fine lol
If Ahsoka had come out before we got tired- maybe after Mandolorean season 2- I think we’d be more forgiving of a lot of its issues. The wooden acting is pretty unforgivable, but I can see some of the leaps they take with the story working in another time. They imply that Ahsoka and Sabine go off together in the final scene of Rebels, but it’s never made clear that this was training. I think it is implied that Sabine is very minimally force sensitive a couple times in the series when she trains with Kanan. It would have been a ballsy move if they did kill Sabine in the first episode. That would have really introduced stakes, given Ahsoka some personal motivation, and set the show apart from the cookie cutter formula it’s pursuing now. Kill Sabine, make ahsoka battle with the vengeance of the dark side and see herself follow in the dark footsteps of her master- how great would that storyline have been!? I’ve got problems with most of the casting. Rosario Dawson should be great, but she’s not. According to the timeline, Sabine should be like 35 at this point in the show, so the actress just seems to young to me- including how she portrays the character. Hera grew on me, and she’s one of the only rebels characters that retains a hint of her personality from the show. I think episode 4 set up a lot interesting places to take the show… will it go there? Probably not, but I’m a hopeless optimist.
I stopped watching after TLJ so it wouldn’t have mattered to me. Now I only listen to reviews and trash talk podcasts, laughing my ass off at people who still give the Rodent House their time and money.
I feel as though they really missed an opportunity with the General. Her responses to challenges to her authority are always basically "Really?" I'd like to see her be assertive and still keep that relaxed confidence. Disney has trouble writing good leaders. Probably because Disney doesn't hire very many good examples.
I like it so far, but I seem to like the "bad guys" more and I want their backstories. It wasn't just smoke coming out of the inquisitor's body, that was Nightsister's magic to animate a dead body, and its bee used before in the animated series.
Honestly, I want the Bad guys to be so scary, I would love to see Sabine sliced in so many peices that they only show a red puddle where she drew her last breath. None of these bad guys are ruthless, and its quite boring when a well trained force fighter can't kill someone who can't channel the force. These sith suck that bad! Looking forward to Ahsoka losing a hand like a Skywalker, and Sabine being sacrificed like a pig.
I do love how Ahsoka tried one lesson with Grogu and immediately afterwards said 'no, teaching you is a bad idea because you're too attached to the Mandalorian. Attachments can make you vulnerable.' Naturally she then gets the great idea to try again with Sabine, who she already apparently tried and failed to train, whilst taking her along on a mission that is routed in her attachment to someone else. (On top of there being no setup in the past to suggest she was force sensitive and the fact that the mission could determine the fate of the entire galaxy, so you probably want the best, fully trained, level headed people to go along with you) Personally I'm in the 'meh' boat with this show so far, it's better than a lot of the other shows we've seen recently, but doesn't hold a candle to the likes of Andor.
Everyone knows that because one thing is good, not all things should necessarily be that one good thing. Example: Oreos are good, but not all food should be Oreos. Fuck that, all Star Wars should be Andor.
@@chriscueva1866 You've got a good point. It doesn't need to be the same style or anything like that, just quality wise everything should strive for that.
@@tomtudorweaver1078 everything about Andor worked more than any other Star Wars thing during the Disney age ( some of the comics being an exception) so I say just copy Andor until it doesn’t work anymore. What do they got to lose? Toy sales, I guess.
@@chriscueva1866 True. I know there's a lot about Disney Star Wars that isn't viewed too fondly, but I'm glad we got Andor out of it, to me that's the first truly great piece of Star Wars TV we've had.
I didn't know about any of this Thrawn business before and that and the map and the giant circular ship were interesting enough for me. This last episode pushed it from 'Meh' to 'This is good'. The fights were pretty inventive and it really looked like they were trying to kill each other, instead of just dancing with lightsabers.
Now imagine trying to watch this without having watched Rebels. After watching the first two episodes, I realized I needed to watch Rebels to get what was going on....then I realized I didn't care that much. Now, Im watching neither. Great review, Jeremy.
I too was not interested in watching Rebels and have found myself struggling to care about some characters in Ahsoka. Overall the show is decent enough (at least compared to other recent SW projects) but as Jeremy noted the story feels rushed, disconnected, and at times irrelevant to the greater SW universe. No matter how forgiving the big budgets and member-berries are, Disney SW will continue to feel distinct from Lucas' worlds because the people who produce, direct, and write these cash cows don't respect just how impressive and layered his vision was.
Ray's character is probably the father of the apprentice. I think Ray's character was a Jedi or peer to Anakin and both had secret relationships that led to getting their partners preggo but in Ray's case, the baby survives and he carries on as an exile protecting his child and also teaching her the ways of the force in non jedi way
@@alexmartin3143 probably to hide the truth? basically I see what Ray's character could have been if Anakin found out his kids survived and he gave up being a sith or jedi
It's a shame because Ray Stevenson has been awesome. His character is the only complex and interesting character outside of Andor that Disney Star Wars has portrayed. Also, an increasing problem is yhat Disney is leaning on the time period between the trilogies. Jeremy highlights it perfectly. Why is Luke not intervening. Andor sidesteps this because it is the lead up to the rebellion. Abothet huge weakness of the show is it yoo heavily relies on one to have watched Rebels or clunkily has dialogue presented because they are trying to address information the audience who haven't watched rebels needs to know. I've never watched Rebels so I don't any of the history of these characters.
I can answer while Luke isNt intervening, and this is the absolute truth. You may not know the background here, so just trust me if you don't: everyone at lucasfilm who works for Kathleen Kennedy (notice I'm being very specific there,) absolutely despises Luke Skywalker. D E S P I S E S. This is not just a matter of turning Star wars into a girl brand. If this was about turning Star wars into a girl brand, they would not emasculate all the men and turn them into pieces of crap. They'd have strong men and strong women working together. This is about a piece of deep pathology that was probably engendered by Kathleen having to suck an awful lot of c0 ck s to make up for her complete lack of creative talent.
Good Lord it was so hard to follow your dialog but I think I understand the point you were trying to make and I agree. If I hadn't watched Rebels I honestly don't think I would still be watching this show lol
Yeah having watched Rebels, the first three episodes are kind of a chore to get through. The problem I think lies in Disney wanting to have content for future seasons so they just drag out everything so they can get to the "watch next season" tag.
It's just baffling to me why they're directing Rosario Dawson to act as stoic and bored as possible, because she is a great actress who can be an amazing live-action Ahsoka. It's just that, for some reason, they're really making her not be as lively as animated Ahsoka.
She's playing off of rebels ahsoka, not clone wars ahsoka. Rebels ahsoka was also the same demeanor wise. More stern and reserved, she's aged so this makes sense
Rosario Dawson Sucks as Ahsoka she is ridiculously miscast her performance is boring dull and she has the personality of a block of wood. She is the worst character in her own show. Ashley Eckstein is Ahsoka FACT
Being middle aged shouldn’t mean you HAVE to be joyless. Then again, she’s been through a lot. Still, her Clone Wars personality is a lot of what made her popular
The problem with these new Star Wars shows except Andor. It rushes itself to the point you can't obsorb the story enough to care. The budget is great and the action is passable. Story is there and I would say well written but the direction doesn't give the viewer to breathe and process things. It's snappy at the worst times. The recent Mandalorian seaaon pacing was overwhelming for me that I just didn't care. Bo Katan was an amazing addition to that show but her arc felt so rushed I didn't feel anything when she became part of the Mandalorians and this is a character we've been following since Clone Wars animated series so what she's doing IS A BIG DEAL but the weight of her story arc just wasn't there for me I didn't feel much and this was her season. Ashoka is feeling the same. So many beloved characters but no emotion behind it for me. I should feel something from these people but I don't.
Nah, if they had Ahsoka and Luke hanging out and rebuilding the Jedi that would mean Luke Skywalker is actually a competent and heroic character in Star Wars and Disney is allergic to the OG characters actually being important. Even with Leia, they had to demote her to a general.
That's either an ignorant or dumb comment, Luke is clearly doing that... ALONE. Maybe you forgot about the Mandalorian and Boba Fett episodes were Luke shows up. They haven't showed us Luke in a main role for OBVIOUS reasons. Mark Hamill shouldn't reprise his role as Luke and having a double with a CGI deepfake of Luke wouldn't be a wise decision either. Surely they're working on something for Luke, which hopefully he is recasted. If they would've recasted Han, Luke and Leia from the beginning we wouldn't have TFA, TLJ and TROS. And I get that Disney ruined a lot of characters with their trilogy but Rebels is also from Disney (mostly thanks to Filoni) and Leia, Lando and Ben Kenobi all show up in that show and have important scenes.
@@lostcause78I could be wrong, but I think they mean compared to the EU, where Leia eventually replaced Mon Mothma as the leader of the New Republic… at least for a while.
I can't watch meh. Glad you're willing to so I know I'm doing the right thing. And you are spot on in your assessment of what should have been the plot.
I’m just glad someone said it. Maybe I just wanted too much as a fan of the animated series. These characters have no personality! Maybe it’s intentional idk. It doesn’t work
I really feel like they're forgetting the show is called Ahsoka. She feels a bit like she did in Rebels: a more misterious and distant version of the character. But it made sense for her to be that way because she wasn't a protagonist, and we were seeing her through Ezra's eyes, a kid who had only heard about the Jedi through rumors and legends. Basically, she feels like a side character in her own show. We don't really know how she feels about anything, like why she cares about stopping Thrawn, other than because "the empire is bad" and she's a good guy, or how she honestly feels about Sabine, other than what she tells Sabine herself. Imagine someone that's seeing this show for the first time, without knowing much about Ahsoka. They are probably very lost and uninterested right now. When she said "We're not here to talk about my past" I almost yelled at the screen "This feels exactly like the place to do that!", but we've yet to see anything that adds to her character. The ending of the episode gives me hope that we might finally get to see more of her backstory. I think these Star Wars shows are suffering a lot from trying to add a plot twist, or a surprise in the later episodes for shock value and hype, but that makes everything that comes before it very uninteresting and uninspired, like you're waiting for the real story to start, and when it does, the show is over.
It’s already predictable. That’s okay, especially in a mythos type setting like Star Wars. The issue is that when the plot is predictable (which again, can be okay) your story is entirely about characters. Why they do things, how they feel about things, becomes the heart of your story. They did this really well in Rebels but this show is absolutely not pulling it off.
@@squamish4244 That's why Andor is great. They did their own thing, without relying on nostalgia bait. I've come to the conclusion that the only star wars content we should get excited about is the stuff with no famous characters, because when one of these SW Disney shows starts shoving too many recognizable characters, the quality tends to go way down.
I understand the complaint about Ahsoka being bored, but Sabine gives off a more irritated, frustrated, impatient vibe which I think suits her imo. My complaint on her character is why she went back to training with Ahsoka despite the fact she has shown ZERO ability to connect with the Force
@@Geeksmithingshe clearly had fears of training Grogu wrong because he is strong in the force. He could be another Darth Vader. And it is implied that while she does see it as Sabine's fault for their training ended, she carries a bit of guilt or sadness for that. So her past with Sabine actually informs her decision with Grogu.
I feel like we haven’t been shown or told enough about what all has happened with Ahsoka and Sabine over the last 8-9 years, and because of it we’re seeing characters who are depressed while not knowing why. That said, I disagree with the Ahsoka/Luke take because I don’t think she wants to rebuild the Order like he does. She recognizes the need for something like one, but her history wouldn’t lead her to really want to be in one.
@@darnellquiggleyI think her knowing Yoda and obi wan trained a 19 year old farm boy was enough to let her know both masters learned from their mistakes and instilled what Luke needed to know about the order while giving him room to do what he wants with the jedi order.
@@darnellquiggley I don't think so. Remember when she first reunited with Anakin in Clone Wars s7? She totally kept her distance, kept it to strictly business, hurting him in the process, without realizing it. And yet he still came to her defense when Obi-Wan just wanted to rush to save the Chancellor, aka play politics. And THAT is why Ahsoka would want NOTHING to do with ANY Jedi Order. It makes sense. Rey was very optimistic when she first started only to run in fear after learning who she was related to. Ahsoka also started the same way, very optimistic, very SNIPPISH, but got worn down over time. The same is said for Ezra Bridger too. It takes a very special kind of inner light to keep going and keep being optimistic even in the darkest of times. And not even Luke Skywalker had that in him and that ALSO makes sense, despite what many believe.
@@ribottostudio DogofWar says he thinks she recognizes the need for one but wouldn’t want to be involved. I just assumed that she would take the chance to give input to not let it become what it became.
It started off really slow. I think they were trying to introduce the characters to a general audience who hadn’t seen Rebels. But, episode 4 was great in my opinion. I can’t wait to see the next episode.
it started unnecessarily empty: why is Ahsoka pursuing Thrawn? before Sabine gets owned, Thrawn is successfully stranded outside any opportunity for him to get retrieved; like Ahsoka, as long as you retain possession of the map orb whether you can read it or not, you determine whether the enemy can get to Thrawn… had you let the HK droids nuke it on the temple grounds, you’d be doing a superior job of guaranteeing his banishment but … ok, you bring it Sabine, clearly you’re motivated to pursue Thrawn on a different priority than Sabine does, but you don’t have a conversation about it? Sabine clearly knows her priorities aren’t the same as Ahsoka’s but you don’t address it until you catch up to the goons who only have it because you botched the possession? Eps 1-3 are a bad game of 🏈 football
I thought the lightsaber fight on episode four was really cool it was kind of a samurai battle type of thing. I don’t like when people just wave their lightsabers
to be fair though, When you have people like Ewan and Hayden performing at their best with nobody holding them back, there is no "waving" to be seen. it's calculated and believable, as well as hella entertaining. Star Wars lightsaber battles have been pretty meh lately in comparison and it's certainly not due to lack of passion from some of the actors.
📌Obi-Wan and Ahsoka feel like movies that were stretched out to be 8 episodes. Very little happens in each episode. Each episode doesn't have a distinct identity to them. Compare this to The Expanse or Battlestar Galactica, each episode has a plot, it has the 3-act structure, each episode has a complete story. Episodes of Ahsoka feel like a collection of scenes with very little plot.
Totally agree. Luke is supposed to be a trained Jedi at this point, so why is he not involved? The viewers going nuts for Episode 4 are like people who have been forced to drink toilet water for a couple of years being overwhelmed they finally get to drink real water. That should be the point. After 10 years, why are we still being crumbs to keep us viewing? So tired of bad Star Wars.
Personally, I don’t mind Luke doing other things off screen at the moment. Sure, I would love to see him become a stable of the new series but the thing is... Mark Hamill is not thirty anymore and those cgi faces Lucasfilm are pulling these days don’t look convincing half the time. Just look at Hayden Christensen in the most recent episode. He looks off and he hasn’t even changed all that much in real life. So I get why they want to keep using Luke in live action at a minimal.
I had felt something similar about the writing in secret invasion at Marvel. It felt like they had already started using ai to write their shows. Idk, but it's a vibe.
I agree w this. There's no way someone just jumping in would know that the inquisitor Ahsoka fought died in the temple on Malachor & was brought back by the night sisters (hence the green smoke). They would be totally confused by whats happened. The series is also making me really dislike Sabine & get super bored of Ahsoka. Both these characters are acting completely opposite from the 4 seasons of Rebels (& 7 seasons of CWs) we've seen. And i really HATE people using the excuse that "they've been through a lot". Uhh...we've seen both these characters lose everything & still not act like this. I mean Sabine just handing over something that will cause another war like its nothing is so far from her laid out Rebels character? Oh & this force storyline w Sabine?? its making anything special about the force mean absolutely nothing. Weve already seen her (lightsaber) train w Kanan & Ezra, you would think that would have popped up. Also, the whole midichlorian count/force user thing is just completely erased out if anyone or anything can tap into it. The only character I'm actually interested in so far is Huyang. I'd rather see a show about him & how he helped younglings with their lightsabers than what we're getting so far.
Pretty sad how things have gone. I hope whatever it is they're doing with the Old Republic timeline they take some notes from why Andor is good and everything else seems to be flopping out of the gate.
There *was* a consistent set of rules for force ghosts prior to the Disney era of Star Wars. The rule was that not everyone could be a force ghost, most people simply became one with the Force, and in order to manifest your spirit and personality through the Force after death you would need to undergo specific training. Qui-Gon Jinn never completed that training, so he was never able to actually show himself, but he was able to train Yoda and Obi-Wan on how to do it. Not sure how Anakin picked up on that though, unless Obi-Wan's force ghost visited him.
Sometimes you hear someone reviewing something and everything they suggest could have been makes so much sense. It makes you wonder why the person isn’t making the show and the actual writer is searching for work.
It's the advantage of hindsight. It's much easier to watch an episode and critique writing choices than it is to sit in front of a blank Word document trying to figure out how to make your plot connect to the ridiculously huge cannon you're a part of. Not that criticism or fan rewrites are at all invalid, it's just different.
I think grogu should've been Ashokas apprentice. He didn't fit in the last season of the Mandalorian and I think his presence in this series would've gave it some character.
@@jwillcairns like him or not he's here to stay but I think you would've liked him if they kept the plot in Mando season by leaving him the Jedis and seeing him progressing. Imagine a slightly taller grogu who can actually pronounce words.
The most frustrating part of this show, is that the entire season would have played out in ONE episode on Rebels. But they drew it out for a whole season.
I agree with this 100%. Also, the first episode felt like the actors were taking their scenes and their lines slowly on purpose which felt very odd. I had such higher hopes for this series. Especially when compared to Andor and the recent Mando season. It's feeling one dimensional thus far. The Luke Skywalker plotpoint is so relevant and the fact that he's just...not present seems so weird. I agree, Ahsoka wouldn't necessarily be with the Rebels series characters automatically. And yes....another map fetch-quest...I thought Dave Feloni would have baked in a bit more complexity than that. It seems like Star Wars: Girl Power fan service. Which is fine....just give us a well-paced and well structured plot momentum rather than layered head-scratcher moments. Also, I yelled at the TV when the Marrok character just smoked out. Wasted opportunity.
Agreed. I feel like that was evident the most with the actress for Sabine. Every time she’s onscreen she seems very bored and disinterested in everything. There were lines she’d say that I felt could’ve had more emotional weight to it. It’s as if she’s putting minimal effort and making Sabine sulky all the time.
@@StormX6i mean ezra is gone and kanan. They were being hunted. She’s still trying to figure out the force. She’s always been a emotional person. The character for the current setting is fine in terms of tone.
@@2kolbe010stop making excuses for bad writing! Please can you guys just stop🤦. The show sucks! the characters feel NOTHING like the characters from rebels and you know it. If you like the show that's fine but please stop trying to make it seem like what your are watching is accurate in anyway
To have someone like Sebastian Stan play a matured Luke would be incredible. Disney seem to always struggle with de aging when youtubers are nailing it. I feel that they're better off just getting a talented actor to continue the legacy
So far they absolutely should have called Thai rebels season 5 but Ashoka herself has had such little character development it’s genuinely crazy tk me. Like Jeremy says Rosario Dawson in daredevil is more Ashoka then she is in this show. She was light hearted and strong which perfectly defines Ashoka she’s not a wooden character that’s super stoic. It’s crazy that Dave feloni has gotten her so wrong. While then outside of the villains all the characters and story is really bad. Idk man Jeremy hit it right Ashoka isn’t Ashoka in this and the rebels story line is really bringing this story down. I would have loved honestly a story of Ashoka on her own dealing with these guys while she’s lamenting in her past and still trying to move forward.
Tl;Dr this show is such mediocre crap Jeremy had to pound a tall glass of bourbon on an off day of culture to get through it. Also your point about Dave filoni getting his own character wrong is just so correct. Daredevil definitely proves that she can play ahsoka like ahsoka was supposed to be. It's got to be some Kathleen Kennedy thing. All the wamen's are strong and independent and completely insufferable. Absolute jerks that no one wants to work with. Yep... that's Kathleen Kennedy.
The creator of the character can still fuck it up, you know? If it completely changed the character without having reason behind it that is sufficient.
Here's another continuity issue, how doesn't Mando know about jedis and siths if they are all living in the same timeline and Mandalor was destroyed within his previous generation was alive, not to mention, anyone of his guild could've educated him. it's very weird.
Mando's outer rim Mandalorian order seemed unconcerned with central Mandalorian politics and conflicts.They were a guild, not a military faction like the Darksaber seekers. If anything they wanted to do as little with the Jedi and Sith as possible.
Just found you Jeremy. Your cool man, I like your straight to the point honest thoughts. I think Sabine though was always Jedi leaning in TCW. Apart from that, your pretty bang on every point. Niiice.
Oh, spirits make Jeremy snarky! I approve. It is nice to hear someone else musing about things I've thought about through the first half of the season. I've accepted I'm old, I simply do not have the connection to the Rebels crew that many seem to have, but I enjoy the Legacy stuff brought in. That said, how does Sabine just shrug off a mortal wound? What just happened to Marrok? Any explanation? No? And yes, Stevenson's character and his apprentice are the two most interesting parts so far. This is making me really nervous when it comes to handling Thrawn, my favorite character of all time. The OG lightsaber fights were better is just one symptom of what I think streaming in general brings to the table: a lack of patience when it comes to creating content. Take your time people, I will wait and I will pay to enjoy your back catalog if you just promise to try and put out quality stuff when it is ready! This is why I wanted to see Thrawn in Andor and not in Ashoka. Oh well, rant over. I hope the last half of the season is better than the first.
your standards for low shouldnt be Secret Invasion, that shit is literally rock-fucking bottom, thousands of meters below "low". Ahsoka looks enjoyable if you just turn off your brain, down two daiquiris and have a friend to talk to while you mock the failed attempts at pandering to the audience by using nostalgia but the show isn't much without that.
Everything feels so forced, the dialogues so empty "going somewhere?" so cliché, the planting is so obvious "stay together", the won't stay together. I'll keep watching, but this doesn't engage me at all outside the inevitable nostalgia for rebels. I hope I get to see Ezra, who I was ok never seeing again after rebels, but somehow, now I need to see.
Jeremy does not understand what the force is so I can't really take his complaints seriously. it's not about IF you have the force, everybody in SW has the force even Jabba the Hutt. It's a matter of will to learn to control the force and talent. The reason they use the term: Force-sensitive is that some people have natural talent (miniclorians). So Sabine does have the force, the will to learn, it's just a matter of time before she can use it.
Yeah but that doesn't mean just open a force school and everyone will learn it and that's not even the complaint, it's that the Sabine's character was changed significantly as being capable of using the force and not being capable of using the force is a big change for a character in star wars and they just sell it like hot potatoes and what is there to bitch about, I mean Sabine should be dead by that lightsaber impalement surgery that she got.
I firmly believe that replacing the "writers" - who are currently striking because they legitimately think they're still not getting paid enough for their "amazing" work - with an AI, would result in a longterm improvement ^^
You said, what I thought after the introduction of Baylan and Shin. They should have made a series about them. Would have been something new, with NEW interesting characters. Sad Ray is no longer around a spin-off would have been nice, also.
Disney just milking and souring fans with their IP's namely Star Wars and Marvel. Its kind of weird that a company as large as Disney don't realize when its time to give a story a break and focus on launch new movie IP's. Can anyone name anything on Disneyplus other than Marvel or Star Wars or old nostalgia movies and shows. Thats why Netflix does so good it does not water down a Movie or Tv show IP. Netflix is like 2 movies thats it, 3 seasons thats to much let's move on. Make them beg us for another one. Rather than make 10 movies because part 1 did well.
Hey Jeremy! Great meeting you at Pax West!! Ahsoka - Cardboard Acting. I cannot get through even one episode. Everything is just. taken from the old trilogy with a lot of Star Wars queues to pop them memberberries. Really just...bad. I know that all of these actors and performers are capable of so much more. I don't get why they are all so reserved. It leaves me with the taste like. this could have been so good but they are failing at every point. I'm going back to Futureman. Your friendly Mario, Greilark xD Ps: update -- episode 4 finally was decent. I watched all the “previously on..” I couldn’t get thru any of the other episodes though. Happy to move on.
Asoka has this droid versed in thousands of years in training Jedi, you would think that it could help Luke out with his new Jedi school, but Asoka’s like nope I’m not even a Jedi but he’s coming with me…
Thanks for keeping it real, Jeremy. Too many people lap up these Star Wars shows purely on the member berries alone. This is what leads to more and more crap being pushed out. I speak to my colleagues at work and feel like I'm going crazy, they get so excited for content without really ever thinking about the overall quality. Attention spans are so short now I suppose. We need to expect more from these stories, not be happy with inconsistent, cartoony nonsense. Meh has become the standard to expect, to even be excited by. It's like everyone is happy to put up with multiple episodes of crap just to get their nostalgia fix. Hopefully things can change with more reviews and critiques like yours, Jeremy. Cheers!
Same with both of you!! I don't know why, but whenever I go on the subreddit Star Wars or anywhere else, I feel like an outcast for seeing how meh these TV shows are. If you've seen what good media looks like, whether that be in television, on the movie screen, or in a book, you KNOW when something is good, meh or just plain bad. I also feel that the camera angles (the constant use of wide shots) are really boring and stale. Where's the sense of creativity? Seems very corporate with the lack of close-up shots. I'm always reminded of Jurassic Park, and the scene where Spielberg focuses the camera on the glass of water subtly moving with the "umph" of the T-Rex in the background.
Filoni has no idea how to direct live action effectively. Dawson looks bored because she likely is. Hours and hours in the make up chair just to be told to repeat her lines in a deadpan monotone can't be a good time for her. Bordizzo as Sabine is OK, she's trying, but I don't think she has a lot of range as an actor. So the story should have started basically with what happens in Ep 4 (by far the best episode), that would at least have kicked things off with a bang on the verge of the action. At least JJ Abrams would have looked at these scripts and gone "oh no, we need to start later in the story, and throw a ton of action at this from the jump" so you pick up on the character's personalities while they are in action, under duress, trying to do things, instead of them just standing around talking about their feelings.
100% agree. The shows has its arms crossed. Literally. It feels sluggish. There's no urgency to anything. The worst part is that I think there's a good show in there somewhere. If you'd just have slightly better directing and slightly tighter editing. Can't wait to watch the inevitable fan edits in a few months. Like with 'Kenobi' I'm sure they'll be better in every way.
@@vxyz Compared to the previous three, yes. No doubt. Compared to _any_ episode of The Clone Wars or Rebels, I'd have to disagree. But glad you're satisfied.
@@NisGaarde well, they're pretty different. Live action and animation. Cw and rebles also had lots of seasons and lots of episodes. Ahsoka is one season and limited episodes too.
@@vxyz Yeah. And it's a little slow and boring so far. And I don't think the characters really "pop". They seem low-energy in general. To me. It's a directoral choice. If you like it, great. I think it needed another good trim in the editing room.
Some valid points in this review but a bit unfair to review this series since it isn't complete. Also, I don't think this is merely a continuation of Rebels, I see elements of the 'Heir to the Empire' trilogy by Timothy Zahn and I have a feeling this show is going to end with a flourish. Ray Stevenson's character has definitely been the most interesting for me. Not a Sith, not a Jedi, more of a mercenary with force. He has shades of Count Dooku and a code he lives by, I also respect that. Personally, I've enjoyed the more Jedi-centric story of Ahsoka after the recent Mandalorian and Bobba Fett series, which I loved as well. The map to Thrawn deal is kind of cheesy but look, the bottom line is this, after the abysmal Star Wars movies recently, this is ll we have left. I think Disney has done a pretty great job with the shows, just now with the movies. Additionally, the IMDb rating has been hovering around the 8/10 mark, which is quite high, so the consensus is that the show is a success, thus far. I respect this reviewer and that he is just calling it as he sees it but some of the things he is pointing out are a bit nit-pickey. But, when you watch every major movie and series that comes out, maybe that is what happens to a person?
I can name off at least 10 shows IMBD gave solid scores to that still haven't gotten greenlit for a second season. These shows only cater to a small corner of the Fandom who haven't even read Heir of the empire. I'm glad you guys like it but don't expect anything more from shows that hardly anyone watches.
@@RJCE420 I'm struggling to understand your post, are you saying you don't think Ahsoka will be picked up for a second season? Or that you don't agree with the IMDb score? Or that you just don't like the show? Or all the above? Or none of the above?
@@TandemKnights I don't like any of the disney star wars shows. They are all spin-off of the superior animated clone wars show. Disney is wasting money on side characters and stories that ultimately mean nothing.
Same man, i saw Ray Stevenson first in Rome series. Gone too soon. And yeah, him and his apparentice are pretty much the best parts of this show. I am also liking Morgan the nightsister lady. But i am more excited/concerned about Thrawn. I really hope they do justice to this charecter.
“A world of consistency” where Anakin went from being one man as a force ghost to another man as a force ghost, in the same movie, and now that same man as a force ghost but wearing different clothes and having a metal arm. “A world of consistency” where The Emperor went from being one man to being another man in the same movie. “A world of consistency” where a bounty hunter went from having an American accent to having a New Zealand accent in the same film.
@@AwesomeAnthonyProductions They are nitpicks to you, possibly. To me they ruined the OT and I had to get bootlegs to have copies of the original theatrical films. It applies here as being an intentionally filmed conflict/contradiction and I think it’s even worse than the example Jeremy gives. Jeremy’s example is just a flat out stupid error.
To be fair, Ray Stevenson's character never said he knew Anakin was Darth Vader, he only said what happened with him, which could be referencing him going bad and having to be killed by Obi-Wan.
@@cable7152 no one ever knew Anakin was a threat. Everyone who saw him change was dead except Yoda. An Yoda never saw another Jedi besides obiwan and Luke. Obiwan did the exact same thing. Fought and then got the kids and went into hiding. Never saw another Jedi until Ezra. I think the way they are saying he knows is because they play heavily on his ability to read thoughts. So maybe at some point he read Vader and got that
@GeminiMaddnezz864lyfe I keep forgetting that Ahsoka takes place after Luke is already a Jedi, I guess plenty of people know that Anakin is Darth, so I guess he was referring to that when he said what happened with Anakin. Plus like you said, the force gives the Jedi greater knowledge. Baylan probably just read Darth's mind or felt it. Btw, the Emperor and Obi-Wan knew and they weren't dead, so not eveyone. Someone with the force could have read Obi's mind. To me it's just another bad sign of Disney convoluting everything with all these shows.
*But fr tho imagine being a casual fan* and watching this? You’d be asking, “Who are these people?” “Why is the show acting like I should know who they are?” “Anakin had an apprentice?” It’s inaccessible to regular viewers.
@@firstlast9846I remember someone saying that similarly, and the response one Star Wars fan who enjoyed Ahsoka so far said that if so then media literacy is dead because the first two episodes were great setup for those who have not watched the animated shows.
@@firstlast9846 I disagree with this point. Ahsoka is an animated character, that is her origin. Most of the main characters are from Rebels. This show is for those that loved the animated shows, and there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s not for casual fans, it’s for those that loved these characters My problem is the execution. Ahsoka is one of my favorite Star Wars characters of all time. I specifically looked for Ahsoka-centered Clone Wars episodes to rewatch. And here, it seems like her personality has been sapped out of her. I get that she’s older so she’s gonna be more mature, but there’s…nothing personality wise that matches her animated appearances.
The Anakin scene wasn’t a force ghost, because there’s no blue glow around his body. So we won’t know what it is until next week. But I’m guessing it’s Anakin from the past. Before his fall, and he somehow made his way to the world between worlds. Or it’s all a trick. Maybe it’s not really Anakin. But it’s all in Ahsoka’s head. Idk if it’s night sister magic being used by Morgan or if Ahsoka is just dreaming.
Who knows how force ghosts looks in the World between Worlds. I also interpreted it as a realm of the force beyond time so it would make sense if force ghost just appeared in their living bodies there.
Lol 😂 you will always be my favorite movie reviewer. Ive been watching you for yeeeeeeeeeaaaars!!! Your personality on screen never gets old. Your impressions (when you do them)are always spot on. I will say i miss your game reviews but i get it. Still...that god of war review you did will forever stand the hands of time. Duck duck dodge hahahaahhaa🤣🤣🤣 This is your gift. Thanks for the laughs and honest reviews over the many years. I agree with you 99% of the time. I also know when you have that...how did you put it bro?..."elixir" hahahahaa yeah sure any who...when you have your drinky drink and glass ALL I KNOW IS ITS ABOUT TO GO DOWN! Your epic dude. Any way have a blessed day and praise the lord and creator
I first saw him when I saw a review of ME3 (before they patched tf out of it) and he was like “I know some of you are saying that in this one ending Shepard takes a breath so he lived. No, he didn’t. He died in every single ending.” And I needed that honesty then like I need it now.
I feel like Ray Stevenson was truly meant for the Baylan role. He just embodies that character so well. So sad that he wasn’t able to see everyone’s reaction to him. RIP
He is the ONLY good thing in this piece of shit of a show
No. Ray had that effect on fanboys.
Same thing was said about Blackbeard.
Same thing was said about Titus Pullo.
The sign of a great actor is that you see them as their character, not irl.
Example; Heath Ledgers Joker
given how bad the show is maybe thats not a bad thing although being recognised as the only quality thing would be nice too
Well that’s not really true
What do you mean born to play Babylon? He is the only version of Baylor to ever exist or be portrayed in canon. Maybe if he was already a character from comics.
The look on Jeremy's face when he makes a bad joke about renaming "The Empire" and halfway through realises that he is probably 100% on target. Priceless.
When Ahsoka was trying to get the map by grabbing it I couldn't help but think what if she had some magical power like a force that would help her do it.
I’ve been watching Jeremy for 10 years now, if not longer. He’s found his grove with his editing, keeping his thoughts tight while also blending in humor. Very easy to get through his videos. He’s a beacon of consistency in an ever-changing world.
Same man, been watching since 2011 and his energy hasn’t changed one bit
He is NOT consistent at all - he just leaps up and down onto trends. Cosmonaut is funny Jeremy is just insufferable
Very happy@@Dominicanadaa
*groove
Been here since the Scott pilgrim review, he definitely has the formula to a T
“You remember your friend? The blind Jedi?” Had me howling 😂
I just watched the movie strays...... Howllllllliiing...😂
Yeah I found that odd. Like as someone who watched Rebels, Sabine's ignorance of the Force is a bit odd.
You knew Ezra, you knew Kanan! The guy literally learned how to see with the Force! Why are you questioning this?!
@@Rawnblade13 she literally watched Ezra do the blindfold training too I think 😂
@blindsniper1720 - I tried watching that movie I couldn’t finish it the jokes were like from a bad TH-cam sketch
She also has trouble using the Force because her midichlorian count is extremely low. It’s not just matter of belief, but the matter of talent as they mentioned.
Baylan really has a cool character design. He looks like a knight with his armor but also very imposing over everyone else.
he looks like if vader didnt get burned on mustafar
He would be tall and imposing around anybody, but put him around a group of short women and he looks like an 8ft tall superhuman.
One of his shoulders is wider than Ahsoka’s whole body.
I think Baylan is such a cool character because he is a dark side user through and through. He calls upon the dark side of the force but doesn’t fall to it. He’s a soldier and a pragmatist, not a selfish villain
He’s not selfish except he’s doing what he’s doing for power.
How has he not fallen to the dark side. He is willing to kill millions for his own power. That sounds like a dark side user to everyone... you don't have to be sith to fall to the dark side.
The witches of dathomir are non sith darksiders.
Cringe Lord dooku is better
How can you know any of that though. That might be your interpretation but he has had like 3 minutes of screentime. We know next to nothing about him.
We’ll said!! It’s just so sad, has passed on
Oh boy, Jeremy brought out the alcohol. There’s only one thing that means….
…yEaH Now iTs a ParTy!
Not alcohol an elixir 😎
@@johnpaulcross424😅😅
It means Andor is the ONLY decent Star Wars content we've gotten since Revenge of the Sith. 🤷🏻♀️😕 And some say the prequels weren't sh*t either, sooo.... um, yikes. lol
@@KabbalahSherrythis last episode was amazing tho
Such a shame we lost Ray. He brought so much to his character
“Disney is diluting the Star Wars brand.” - actual quote from Liam Neeson
I love that Jeremy has turned to the dark-side. He started Disney strong, but recognized halfway through the ST that something was wrong with the Force.
We all felt that way.....the second Kennedy said, "The Force is Female!" 🙄😔🤦
What is the ST?
@@jaketaf98sequel trilogy I think
@@RegBeta, it was literally for a NIKE campaign and hasn’t even come up in the actual franchise. 💀
@Infinite_Ethan03 Shouldn't had come up at all!!! The Force is for everyone.
Ray Stevenson, RIP. We will miss him. King author
Funny story, my mom has been watching Ashoka by itself and while she’s liking it she is confused on what’s happening. So I forced her to watch Clone Wars and Rebels which she said was for children. We have watched the Maul and Ashoka episodes and Rebels finale and now she wants to watch nothing but Clone Wars and Rebels.
Random people: "clone wars and rebels are for children"
Ahsoka and Ventress: *stabbing and decapitating enemies left and right*
This was so wholesome
W mom
This is literally not true
Are you guys insane? Clones wars IS for kids. The Genre is literally “Kids”. The rating is PG… in case you forgot that means Parental Guidance. Parental. As in parents… who have to guide their kids. Yeah, it’s got violence in it, but so does teen titans and Avatar and Naruto and a whole bunch of other shows for kids. Just because it’s violent or shows death doesn’t mean it’s for adults only.
Ashoka and Luke teaming up on a journey to rebuild the Jedi order and stop Thrawn would be an awesome series.
No it wouldn't lmao. Based on the shit trilogy, that Jedi Order dies lmfao
@@ProtagonisTeneTwru talking about? The Jedi will never die. The last Jedi lives on as a Skywalker. Like poetry it rhymes
@@andythai8676Rey Was
ALWAYS A Palpatine & Will
ALWAYS BE A Palpatine!
The only problem with that is we know that story would be a dead end because eventually Luke will fail anyway. And spectacularly at that I might add.
That would be cool... it just involves pretending the sequel trilogy never happened. Which I would support. Thats why I dont give a shit about this show, I have no interest in these disney shows that lead to Luke failing and becoming a coward, Leia creating the most corrupt government in the history of Star Wars, Han failing at everything.
I will never get tired of Jeremy punching me in the face at the end of every video
I realized the other day I've been watching his videos for over 5 years. it punched me almost as hard as Jeremy does. it's like the feeling you get when you see someone you went to school with but toa greater effect. thanks for the wonderful memories you created for us film geeks Jeremy a movie never feels complete until I talk about it with you. much love mate, cheers 🍻
Really liked that comment. Hope he sees it!
Baylon Skoll & Shin Hatti are definitely the coolest characters in this show. Seems pretty clear they are gearing up towards a Shin redemption towards the end, so I am excited to see how they incorporate her in Star Wars in general going forward as a somewhat rival to Sabine. She should be an awesome, conflicted character
Shin is interesting in the way a dark villain has a little chihuahua sidekick. You’re annoyed and delighted at the same time.
Maybe towards the end of the series or in the Dave filoni movie but according to leaks she remains a dark jedi at the end of the series and her and baylan stand with Thrawn
Not really sure where people think Shin is being set up for redemption, I haven’t seen anything that shows that
Shin Hatti is total cringe. The actress is failing at a Darth Maul/T-1000 impersonation.
Shin is not an interesting character. It’s also a terrible name
I truly believe that not a single person working at Lucas Film was hired based on merit.
That’s the only reason I can think of that explains the state of the company.
Lol Everyone knows this, you’re like 7 years behind Bud.
@@kmacadaeg7why so antagonizing kid
What a slanderous statement. Jon Faveru and Dave Filoni have the support of George Lucas, how about do your research rather than lie.
@@ryanreviews8566 Just telling truth. Idk why snowflakes always get so upset by truth. 🤷🏿♂️
@@JustinScott2012 No they don’t lol
A plot with Ahsoka and Luke rebuilding the Jedi order would honestly be an excellent idea!
could you imagine!? but that's what we were all hoping the sequels would be too...a flourishing jedi order under the tutelage of a wise Luke at his most powerful. They're never going to do it well.
But the can’t retcon Rey. You can’t retcon Kathleen Kennedy or her absolute dumpster fire bullshit decisions. Luke is a fearful asshole who murders colleagues in their sleep now and Rey is flawless, because man bad, women good. God Kathleen Kennedy is a piece of shite.
@@alexm2889 knowing Disney's recent track records, even with a show under Dave Filoni's direction resulting in something "meh"... To be completely honest, i dont think there's hope for Star Wars fans
And that is why they won't do it. Taking a page from The Last Jedi, where they are basically trolling the fandom to just say how things arent going to go how you think....
@@Youarekenough I think filoni is extremely overrated too. A lot of the animated stuff is cheesy and obvious. It's really kids content, even though there are some decent character arcs and action in specific episodes (between the filler!). You see similar on the nose fetch quests with predictable lessons in the worst parts of mando. Even mando was cool at first, but now they've all showed that they were nothing more than gimmicks and couldn't land the plane.
i Got the impression that the one thing that separates Skoll from other force users, is that he gets your wikipedia bio through the force.
He got a full read from both Ahsoka and Sabine as soon as they were nearby.
It's how i think he got the read on what happened to anakin.
Yup, called it. Jeremy will *_NEVER_* smile at Star Wars *_EVER AGAIN._*
You literally always take the words out of my mouth
I had thought it would be the job of the Lucasfilm writing room to ensure strong continuity among all these different projects. Then I heard they were really proud of Aurebesh translation on some random thing, and I was like “ohhhh.”
Ray Stevenson's character didn't know about Anakin. He read Ahsoka's mind. Just like he did with Sabine afterwards, he mentioned something from their minds/past to throw them off and convince them to stand down.
He meant it when he said to Ahsoka that he'd rather not use violence or something to that degree. He showed that by sheathing his lightsaber and talking his way out of fighting Sabine.
I highly doubt he didn’t know about Anakin in some shape or form, during the Clone Wars. I agree with everything else you said, though!
Wrong! he explained that everybody knew who Anakin was shit we’re not even part of the Star Wars universe, and we know who he is….😂
I also think he knows since Thrawn knew and he might've told his suborniates who told him
@@Infinite_Ethan03Yeah big agree. I think he might have HEARD about Anakin that's just about it. The line "Everyone in the order knew ABOUT Anakin Skywalker, few would live to see what he became" says to me he didn't KNOW him personally like Ahsoka or Obi-Wan did, just heard stories. He was the legendary "Hero Without Fear" gotta love me some propoganda BS lol. Anakin was petrified a lot of the time, especially about losing those he loved, which is WHY he turned into Darth Vader. But naaaaaaaaah let's just put a TON of pressure on what, a 19, 20 year old man? That'll be fine lol
What? Did you watch something else? Because he specifacally said everyone knew anakin
If Ahsoka had come out before we got tired- maybe after Mandolorean season 2- I think we’d be more forgiving of a lot of its issues. The wooden acting is pretty unforgivable, but I can see some of the leaps they take with the story working in another time.
They imply that Ahsoka and Sabine go off together in the final scene of Rebels, but it’s never made clear that this was training. I think it is implied that Sabine is very minimally force sensitive a couple times in the series when she trains with Kanan.
It would have been a ballsy move if they did kill Sabine in the first episode. That would have really introduced stakes, given Ahsoka some personal motivation, and set the show apart from the cookie cutter formula it’s pursuing now. Kill Sabine, make ahsoka battle with the vengeance of the dark side and see herself follow in the dark footsteps of her master- how great would that storyline have been!?
I’ve got problems with most of the casting. Rosario Dawson should be great, but she’s not. According to the timeline, Sabine should be like 35 at this point in the show, so the actress just seems to young to me- including how she portrays the character. Hera grew on me, and she’s one of the only rebels characters that retains a hint of her personality from the show.
I think episode 4 set up a lot interesting places to take the show… will it go there? Probably not, but I’m a hopeless optimist.
Ummm, I think Dawson acts exactly like ahsoka in rebels
Incorrect . All this criticism are valid .... Rosario isn't even ashoka
@@Jamsaladd I’m not saying it isn’t valid. I’m saying we probably would be more forgiving of some of the issues in another time.
Sabine was around 18 at the end of Rebels. This series takes place 10-11 years after that. So where are you getting that she should be 35!?
I stopped watching after TLJ so it wouldn’t have mattered to me. Now I only listen to reviews and trash talk podcasts, laughing my ass off at people who still give the Rodent House their time and money.
I feel as though they really missed an opportunity with the General. Her responses to challenges to her authority are always basically "Really?"
I'd like to see her be assertive and still keep that relaxed confidence. Disney has trouble writing good leaders. Probably because Disney doesn't hire very many good examples.
Filoni isn't a "Disney writer" and he's given us the best Star Wars after George.
@@josedavidcastillo9241 you misspelled Tony Gilroy
@@josedavidcastillo9241 So his garbage is slightly better?
@@Ihavethetouchbro you clearly don't know anything about Filoni lmao
@@KillerTacos54 I know enough and I stay in Legends thank you
I like it so far, but I seem to like the "bad guys" more and I want their backstories. It wasn't just smoke coming out of the inquisitor's body, that was Nightsister's magic to animate a dead body, and its bee used before in the animated series.
It's smoke
@@rutchjohnsonbut it’s *magic smoke*
✨Star Wars ✨
Magic… I thought Star Wars was tech & The Force… no other BS
@@markshaffer6447 didn't watch the nightsisters arc in SWTCW?
Honestly, I want the Bad guys to be so scary, I would love to see Sabine sliced in so many peices that they only show a red puddle where she drew her last breath. None of these bad guys are ruthless, and its quite boring when a well trained force fighter can't kill someone who can't channel the force. These sith suck that bad! Looking forward to Ahsoka losing a hand like a Skywalker, and Sabine being sacrificed like a pig.
I do love how Ahsoka tried one lesson with Grogu and immediately afterwards said 'no, teaching you is a bad idea because you're too attached to the Mandalorian. Attachments can make you vulnerable.'
Naturally she then gets the great idea to try again with Sabine, who she already apparently tried and failed to train, whilst taking her along on a mission that is routed in her attachment to someone else.
(On top of there being no setup in the past to suggest she was force sensitive and the fact that the mission could determine the fate of the entire galaxy, so you probably want the best, fully trained, level headed people to go along with you)
Personally I'm in the 'meh' boat with this show so far, it's better than a lot of the other shows we've seen recently, but doesn't hold a candle to the likes of Andor.
Everyone knows that because one thing is good, not all things should necessarily be that one good thing. Example: Oreos are good, but not all food should be Oreos. Fuck that, all Star Wars should be Andor.
@@chriscueva1866 You've got a good point. It doesn't need to be the same style or anything like that, just quality wise everything should strive for that.
@@tomtudorweaver1078 everything about Andor worked more than any other Star Wars thing during the Disney age ( some of the comics being an exception) so I say just copy Andor until it doesn’t work anymore. What do they got to lose? Toy sales, I guess.
@@chriscueva1866 True. I know there's a lot about Disney Star Wars that isn't viewed too fondly, but I'm glad we got Andor out of it, to me that's the first truly great piece of Star Wars TV we've had.
I didn't know about any of this Thrawn business before and that and the map and the giant circular ship were interesting enough for me. This last episode pushed it from 'Meh' to 'This is good'. The fights were pretty inventive and it really looked like they were trying to kill each other, instead of just dancing with lightsabers.
Now imagine trying to watch this without having watched Rebels. After watching the first two episodes, I realized I needed to watch Rebels to get what was going on....then I realized I didn't care that much. Now, Im watching neither. Great review, Jeremy.
Yeah, I have friends I'm trying to get to watch it with me, but they don't get even half of the references.
Good decision honestly. Both are garbage unless you're like 10
@@stormy6029 factually wrong. Rebels is great
I too was not interested in watching Rebels and have found myself struggling to care about some characters in Ahsoka. Overall the show is decent enough (at least compared to other recent SW projects) but as Jeremy noted the story feels rushed, disconnected, and at times irrelevant to the greater SW universe.
No matter how forgiving the big budgets and member-berries are, Disney SW will continue to feel distinct from Lucas' worlds because the people who produce, direct, and write these cash cows don't respect just how impressive and layered his vision was.
Imagine passing on some of the best Star Wars content from the past decade
Ray's character is probably the father of the apprentice. I think Ray's character was a Jedi or peer to Anakin and both had secret relationships that led to getting their partners preggo but in Ray's case, the baby survives and he carries on as an exile protecting his child and also teaching her the ways of the force in non jedi way
Then why do they have different last names? No Order now it wouldn’t matter if he was in a relationship then.
This is actually awesome headcanon. Like he turned to the dark side to protect his daughter from persecution.
@@alexmartin3143 probably to hide the truth? basically I see what Ray's character could have been if Anakin found out his kids survived and he gave up being a sith or jedi
something about jeremy talking about star wars you can see the passion in his eyes again. great video
It's a shame because Ray Stevenson has been awesome. His character is the only complex and interesting character outside of Andor that Disney Star Wars has portrayed. Also, an increasing problem is yhat Disney is leaning on the time period between the trilogies. Jeremy highlights it perfectly. Why is Luke not intervening. Andor sidesteps this because it is the lead up to the rebellion. Abothet huge weakness of the show is it yoo heavily relies on one to have watched Rebels or clunkily has dialogue presented because they are trying to address information the audience who haven't watched rebels needs to know. I've never watched Rebels so I don't any of the history of these characters.
I can answer while Luke isNt intervening, and this is the absolute truth. You may not know the background here, so just trust me if you don't: everyone at lucasfilm who works for Kathleen Kennedy (notice I'm being very specific there,) absolutely despises Luke Skywalker. D E S P I S E S. This is not just a matter of turning Star wars into a girl brand. If this was about turning Star wars into a girl brand, they would not emasculate all the men and turn them into pieces of crap. They'd have strong men and strong women working together.
This is about a piece of deep pathology that was probably engendered by Kathleen having to suck an awful lot of c0 ck s to make up for her complete lack of creative talent.
Good Lord it was so hard to follow your dialog but I think I understand the point you were trying to make and I agree. If I hadn't watched Rebels I honestly don't think I would still be watching this show lol
Borderline unreadable but yeah
RIP Ray...
Yeah having watched Rebels, the first three episodes are kind of a chore to get through. The problem I think lies in Disney wanting to have content for future seasons so they just drag out everything so they can get to the "watch next season" tag.
It's just baffling to me why they're directing Rosario Dawson to act as stoic and bored as possible, because she is a great actress who can be an amazing live-action Ahsoka. It's just that, for some reason, they're really making her not be as lively as animated Ahsoka.
Very true. Remember Both Rosario and Elizabeth Winstead were both in Death Proof (2007). They played very lively characters .
She's playing off of rebels ahsoka, not clone wars ahsoka. Rebels ahsoka was also the same demeanor wise. More stern and reserved, she's aged so this makes sense
I'm just glad everyone is jumping on the asshoka sucks bandwagon now.
Rosario Dawson Sucks as Ahsoka she is ridiculously miscast her performance is boring dull and she has the personality of a block of wood. She is the worst character in her own show. Ashley Eckstein is Ahsoka FACT
Being middle aged shouldn’t mean you HAVE to be joyless. Then again, she’s been through a lot. Still, her Clone Wars personality is a lot of what made her popular
Lol, you put basically all of my thoughts into words exactly. Amazing
The problem with these new Star Wars shows except Andor. It rushes itself to the point you can't obsorb the story enough to care. The budget is great and the action is passable. Story is there and I would say well written but the direction doesn't give the viewer to breathe and process things. It's snappy at the worst times. The recent Mandalorian seaaon pacing was overwhelming for me that I just didn't care. Bo Katan was an amazing addition to that show but her arc felt so rushed I didn't feel anything when she became part of the Mandalorians and this is a character we've been following since Clone Wars animated series so what she's doing IS A BIG DEAL but the weight of her story arc just wasn't there for me I didn't feel much and this was her season.
Ashoka is feeling the same. So many beloved characters but no emotion behind it for me. I should feel something from these people but I don't.
Really? I find this show sometimes painfully slow-paced. It sits in it's scenes a bit too long sometimes imo
i think Andor was way to slow i stopped caring about it. ahsoka so far i enjoyed it. every episod feels like a star wars episod. its so good
Did you even watch it?
Couldn't have said it better myself. 👍
Andor is so slow...I can't even bring myself to watch the show again to give it another try.
Nah, if they had Ahsoka and Luke hanging out and rebuilding the Jedi that would mean Luke Skywalker is actually a competent and heroic character in Star Wars and Disney is allergic to the OG characters actually being important. Even with Leia, they had to demote her to a general.
Sequels have ruined everything.
That's either an ignorant or dumb comment, Luke is clearly doing that... ALONE. Maybe you forgot about the Mandalorian and Boba Fett episodes were Luke shows up. They haven't showed us Luke in a main role for OBVIOUS reasons. Mark Hamill shouldn't reprise his role as Luke and having a double with a CGI deepfake of Luke wouldn't be a wise decision either.
Surely they're working on something for Luke, which hopefully he is recasted. If they would've recasted Han, Luke and Leia from the beginning we wouldn't have TFA, TLJ and TROS.
And I get that Disney ruined a lot of characters with their trilogy but Rebels is also from Disney (mostly thanks to Filoni) and Leia, Lando and Ben Kenobi all show up in that show and have important scenes.
They demoted Leia because they felt "princess" was demeaning to her. In their eyes she was getting a promotion.
@@josedavidcastillo9241people complain way to much about simple shit, they can easily work out in their head
@@lostcause78I could be wrong, but I think they mean compared to the EU, where Leia eventually replaced Mon Mothma as the leader of the New Republic… at least for a while.
I can't watch meh. Glad you're willing to so I know I'm doing the right thing. And you are spot on in your assessment of what should have been the plot.
Finally someone expressing my thoughts about this series. Everyone is approving this shit show like it is good
Great points about seeking out the OT characters to solve a galactic threat.
Pretty much says it all, right there.
I’m sure they’ll pop up in the mandoverse movie so I’m going to hold my complaints about that until then if they don’t show up in that.
I’m just glad someone said it. Maybe I just wanted too much as a fan of the animated series. These characters have no personality! Maybe it’s intentional idk. It doesn’t work
I trust Jeremy's opinions and reviews more than everyone else on TH-cam. He's honest and doesn't seem biased towards any particular studio/IPs. .
UAP?
@@everythingisawesome2903 Whoops! Typo... Autocorrect. Meant IPs. 🙄
I really feel like they're forgetting the show is called Ahsoka. She feels a bit like she did in Rebels: a more misterious and distant version of the character. But it made sense for her to be that way because she wasn't a protagonist, and we were seeing her through Ezra's eyes, a kid who had only heard about the Jedi through rumors and legends. Basically, she feels like a side character in her own show. We don't really know how she feels about anything, like why she cares about stopping Thrawn, other than because "the empire is bad" and she's a good guy, or how she honestly feels about Sabine, other than what she tells Sabine herself.
Imagine someone that's seeing this show for the first time, without knowing much about Ahsoka. They are probably very lost and uninterested right now. When she said "We're not here to talk about my past" I almost yelled at the screen "This feels exactly like the place to do that!", but we've yet to see anything that adds to her character. The ending of the episode gives me hope that we might finally get to see more of her backstory.
I think these Star Wars shows are suffering a lot from trying to add a plot twist, or a surprise in the later episodes for shock value and hype, but that makes everything that comes before it very uninteresting and uninspired, like you're waiting for the real story to start, and when it does, the show is over.
It’s already predictable. That’s okay, especially in a mythos type setting like Star Wars. The issue is that when the plot is predictable (which again, can be okay) your story is entirely about characters. Why they do things, how they feel about things, becomes the heart of your story. They did this really well in Rebels but this show is absolutely not pulling it off.
Andor would have great difficulty leaning on a plot twist lol
Yeah, it doesn't really feel like an "Ahsoka" show yet.
Maybe Episode 5 will change that.
It's trash
@@squamish4244 That's why Andor is great. They did their own thing, without relying on nostalgia bait. I've come to the conclusion that the only star wars content we should get excited about is the stuff with no famous characters, because when one of these SW Disney shows starts shoving too many recognizable characters, the quality tends to go way down.
Episode 5 had that prequel lightsaber feel. Amazing seeing Hayden wield the saber like it should be
lmao no.
@@martinh1309 if i were to make a list of common youtube comments that are the worst on youtube, this is definitely close to the top.
@@AbsurdAsparagus mine or the OC?
RemEMbeR AnAKin??😱
The most excited and dramatic character in the series is the robot!
At this point, I just want the Pitch Meeting for Ashoka.
I understand the complaint about Ahsoka being bored, but Sabine gives off a more irritated, frustrated, impatient vibe which I think suits her imo. My complaint on her character is why she went back to training with Ahsoka despite the fact she has shown ZERO ability to connect with the Force
But SHE was an acceptable Padawan to train, but Grogu wasn't? M'k.
@@Geeksmithingshe clearly had fears of training Grogu wrong because he is strong in the force. He could be another Darth Vader. And it is implied that while she does see it as Sabine's fault for their training ended, she carries a bit of guilt or sadness for that. So her past with Sabine actually informs her decision with Grogu.
@@jiopa I dig that answer. Thanks!
It's trash. Nothing to think about. No one is watching
@@jiopabold to assume any thought was put into this.
I feel like we haven’t been shown or told enough about what all has happened with Ahsoka and Sabine over the last 8-9 years, and because of it we’re seeing characters who are depressed while not knowing why.
That said, I disagree with the Ahsoka/Luke take because I don’t think she wants to rebuild the Order like he does. She recognizes the need for something like one, but her history wouldn’t lead her to really want to be in one.
Wouldn’t that make her want to be involved. So it doesn’t turn out how the first one did?
@@darnellquiggleyI think her knowing Yoda and obi wan trained a 19 year old farm boy was enough to let her know both masters learned from their mistakes and instilled what Luke needed to know about the order while giving him room to do what he wants with the jedi order.
@@darnellquiggley I don't think so. Remember when she first reunited with Anakin in Clone Wars s7? She totally kept her distance, kept it to strictly business, hurting him in the process, without realizing it. And yet he still came to her defense when Obi-Wan just wanted to rush to save the Chancellor, aka play politics. And THAT is why Ahsoka would want NOTHING to do with ANY Jedi Order. It makes sense.
Rey was very optimistic when she first started only to run in fear after learning who she was related to. Ahsoka also started the same way, very optimistic, very SNIPPISH, but got worn down over time. The same is said for Ezra Bridger too. It takes a very special kind of inner light to keep going and keep being optimistic even in the darkest of times. And not even Luke Skywalker had that in him and that ALSO makes sense, despite what many believe.
@@ribottostudio I haven’t seen any of Rebels or Clone Wars.
@@ribottostudio DogofWar says he thinks she recognizes the need for one but wouldn’t want to be involved. I just assumed that she would take the chance to give input to not let it become what it became.
It started off really slow. I think they were trying to introduce the characters to a general audience who hadn’t seen Rebels. But, episode 4 was great in my opinion. I can’t wait to see the next episode.
I’m actually very surprised, how he viewed these!! But then again he talked so highly for “the last Jedi” and that was a piss 💦 🎥 on Star Wars !!
it started unnecessarily empty: why is Ahsoka pursuing Thrawn? before Sabine gets owned, Thrawn is successfully stranded outside any opportunity for him to get retrieved; like Ahsoka, as long as you retain possession of the map orb whether you can read it or not, you determine whether the enemy can get to Thrawn… had you let the HK droids nuke it on the temple grounds, you’d be doing a superior job of guaranteeing his banishment
but … ok, you bring it Sabine, clearly you’re motivated to pursue Thrawn on a different priority than Sabine does, but you don’t have a conversation about it? Sabine clearly knows her priorities aren’t the same as Ahsoka’s but you don’t address it until you catch up to the goons who only have it because you botched the possession?
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I thought the lightsaber fight on episode four was really cool it was kind of a samurai battle type of thing. I don’t like when people just wave their lightsabers
to be fair though, When you have people like Ewan and Hayden performing at their best with nobody holding them back, there is no "waving" to be seen. it's calculated and believable, as well as hella entertaining. Star Wars lightsaber battles have been pretty meh lately in comparison and it's certainly not due to lack of passion from some of the actors.
📌Obi-Wan and Ahsoka feel like movies that were stretched out to be 8 episodes. Very little happens in each episode. Each episode doesn't have a distinct identity to them. Compare this to The Expanse or Battlestar Galactica, each episode has a plot, it has the 3-act structure, each episode has a complete story. Episodes of Ahsoka feel like a collection of scenes with very little plot.
“You look like you been an apprentice for 20 years and never promoted” 😂😂😂 she would’ve dropped her ligh saber and ran off crying after hearing that
Can’t wait till your take on the complete series🙏
Andor was that well written and executed I feel other Star Wars shows have a LOT to live up to!
Exactly, Andor was peak disney Star Wars, all this others shows felt very dumb and empty. Can't wait for season 2
Totally agree. Luke is supposed to be a trained Jedi at this point, so why is he not involved? The viewers going nuts for Episode 4 are like people who have been forced to drink toilet water for a couple of years being overwhelmed they finally get to drink real water. That should be the point. After 10 years, why are we still being crumbs to keep us viewing? So tired of bad Star Wars.
Pound sand
Because Luke is a white male, and Ahsoka is a girl boss and don’t need no man!
@@johnpatz8395OR, hear me out here. It’s her show and now Luke’s
@@Comic3247 It's Disney's and KK's show, and and to them franchise is simply a means to push their feminist agenda.
Personally, I don’t mind Luke doing other things off screen at the moment. Sure, I would love to see him become a stable of the new series but the thing is... Mark Hamill is not thirty anymore and those cgi faces Lucasfilm are pulling these days don’t look convincing half the time. Just look at Hayden Christensen in the most recent episode. He looks off and he hasn’t even changed all that much in real life.
So I get why they want to keep using Luke in live action at a minimal.
I had felt something similar about the writing in secret invasion at Marvel. It felt like they had already started using ai to write their shows. Idk, but it's a vibe.
I was thinking that as well. Something just feels off.
@@ARBLACKxNope, they hired 1st class feminist writers
You are just blaming poor writing on AI that doesnt exist... Its just bad writing
@@bobsbuurgers3714how can we be sure it's not written with chatgbt
I'm sure they've been doing it for several years already.
I agree w this. There's no way someone just jumping in would know that the inquisitor Ahsoka fought died in the temple on Malachor & was brought back by the night sisters (hence the green smoke). They would be totally confused by whats happened. The series is also making me really dislike Sabine & get super bored of Ahsoka. Both these characters are acting completely opposite from the 4 seasons of Rebels (& 7 seasons of CWs) we've seen. And i really HATE people using the excuse that "they've been through a lot". Uhh...we've seen both these characters lose everything & still not act like this. I mean Sabine just handing over something that will cause another war like its nothing is so far from her laid out Rebels character? Oh & this force storyline w Sabine?? its making anything special about the force mean absolutely nothing. Weve already seen her (lightsaber) train w Kanan & Ezra, you would think that would have popped up. Also, the whole midichlorian count/force user thing is just completely erased out if anyone or anything can tap into it. The only character I'm actually interested in so far is Huyang. I'd rather see a show about him & how he helped younglings with their lightsabers than what we're getting so far.
Pretty sad how things have gone. I hope whatever it is they're doing with the Old Republic timeline they take some notes from why Andor is good and everything else seems to be flopping out of the gate.
Tbh where this second half is going there’s so much potential to fix the sequels or even go in a whole different direction
It really sucks too cause everyone dick rides filoni and he’s in charge of this so the hopes were higher
This isn't flopping.
The Mandalorian hasn't flopped.
Boba flopped.
That's the thing. The Old Republic timeline would be amazing, but can we trust Disney not to screw that up too?
andor was boring and didnt feel like star wars. Felt like a generic space heist...
There *was* a consistent set of rules for force ghosts prior to the Disney era of Star Wars. The rule was that not everyone could be a force ghost, most people simply became one with the Force, and in order to manifest your spirit and personality through the Force after death you would need to undergo specific training. Qui-Gon Jinn never completed that training, so he was never able to actually show himself, but he was able to train Yoda and Obi-Wan on how to do it. Not sure how Anakin picked up on that though, unless Obi-Wan's force ghost visited him.
Sometimes you hear someone reviewing something and everything they suggest could have been makes so much sense. It makes you wonder why the person isn’t making the show and the actual writer is searching for work.
It's the advantage of hindsight. It's much easier to watch an episode and critique writing choices than it is to sit in front of a blank Word document trying to figure out how to make your plot connect to the ridiculously huge cannon you're a part of. Not that criticism or fan rewrites are at all invalid, it's just different.
Love how Jeremy's sway is more exaggerated when he holds a glass of alcohol. Yet he still just moves as normal. Lol!
this was great, give us another AHSOKA 10min plus rant video when the season ends too!
Once he pulled out the liquor , I knew we were in for a good time . This is the most honest review 💯
IKR?😆
I think grogu should've been Ashokas apprentice. He didn't fit in the last season of the Mandalorian and I think his presence in this series would've gave it some character.
Omg I hate that stupid green kid. Even the name Grogu is hilariously stupid. God these Disney shows suck
Nah enough of that gremlin
@@jwillcairns like him or not he's here to stay but I think you would've liked him if they kept the plot in Mando season by leaving him the Jedis and seeing him progressing. Imagine a slightly taller grogu who can actually pronounce words.
The most frustrating part of this show, is that the entire season would have played out in ONE episode on Rebels. But they drew it out for a whole season.
As far as why Sabine is hanging out with Ahsoka, the Rebels epilogue showed them team up to find Ezra.
I agree with this 100%. Also, the first episode felt like the actors were taking their scenes and their lines slowly on purpose which felt very odd. I had such higher hopes for this series. Especially when compared to Andor and the recent Mando season. It's feeling one dimensional thus far. The Luke Skywalker plotpoint is so relevant and the fact that he's just...not present seems so weird. I agree, Ahsoka wouldn't necessarily be with the Rebels series characters automatically. And yes....another map fetch-quest...I thought Dave Feloni would have baked in a bit more complexity than that. It seems like Star Wars: Girl Power fan service. Which is fine....just give us a well-paced and well structured plot momentum rather than layered head-scratcher moments. Also, I yelled at the TV when the Marrok character just smoked out. Wasted opportunity.
Another potential mystery like Snoke bites the dust, literally this time
Agreed. I feel like that was evident the most with the actress for Sabine. Every time she’s onscreen she seems very bored and disinterested in everything. There were lines she’d say that I felt could’ve had more emotional weight to it. It’s as if she’s putting minimal effort and making Sabine sulky all the time.
@@StormX6i mean ezra is gone and kanan. They were being hunted. She’s still trying to figure out the force. She’s always been a emotional person. The character for the current setting is fine in terms of tone.
@@2kolbe010stop making excuses for bad writing! Please can you guys just stop🤦. The show sucks! the characters feel NOTHING like the characters from rebels and you know it. If you like the show that's fine but please stop trying to make it seem like what your are watching is accurate in anyway
@@lavasharkflowers mf its my opinion. Check that tone
To have someone like Sebastian Stan play a matured Luke would be incredible. Disney seem to always struggle with de aging when youtubers are nailing it. I feel that they're better off just getting a talented actor to continue the legacy
So far they absolutely should have called Thai rebels season 5 but Ashoka herself has had such little character development it’s genuinely crazy tk me. Like Jeremy says Rosario Dawson in daredevil is more Ashoka then she is in this show. She was light hearted and strong which perfectly defines Ashoka she’s not a wooden character that’s super stoic. It’s crazy that Dave feloni has gotten her so wrong. While then outside of the villains all the characters and story is really bad. Idk man Jeremy hit it right Ashoka isn’t Ashoka in this and the rebels story line is really bringing this story down. I would have loved honestly a story of Ashoka on her own dealing with these guys while she’s lamenting in her past and still trying to move forward.
How did Dave get her wrong…. When he LITERALLY helped creat the character
Tl;Dr this show is such mediocre crap Jeremy had to pound a tall glass of bourbon on an off day of culture to get through it.
Also your point about Dave filoni getting his own character wrong is just so correct. Daredevil definitely proves that she can play ahsoka like ahsoka was supposed to be. It's got to be some Kathleen Kennedy thing. All the wamen's are strong and independent and completely insufferable. Absolute jerks that no one wants to work with. Yep... that's Kathleen Kennedy.
@@gotone2513I’d go more than helped. He basically took it over season 1 of clone wars. It’s his character
The creator of the character can still fuck it up, you know? If it completely changed the character without having reason behind it that is sufficient.
@@isaacgirouard5924 I don't think he fell though. I think he was pushed. Read my comment.
Here's another continuity issue, how doesn't Mando know about jedis and siths if they are all living in the same timeline and Mandalor was destroyed within his previous generation was alive, not to mention, anyone of his guild could've educated him. it's very weird.
Mando's outer rim Mandalorian order seemed unconcerned with central Mandalorian politics and conflicts.They were a guild, not a military faction like the Darksaber seekers. If anything they wanted to do as little with the Jedi and Sith as possible.
Just found you Jeremy. Your cool man, I like your straight to the point honest thoughts. I think Sabine though was always Jedi leaning in TCW. Apart from that, your pretty bang on every point. Niiice.
Great vid as always Jeremy but I’m sorry, I gave up on Star Wars after “episode 9”
This is why I Love watching you! You nailed this one like you always do! I too think Baylon is the best. Always waiting for his scenes!
I just rewatched Rebels, and noticed that they do cross their arms, a hell of a lot in the animation, also.😏
Oh, spirits make Jeremy snarky! I approve. It is nice to hear someone else musing about things I've thought about through the first half of the season. I've accepted I'm old, I simply do not have the connection to the Rebels crew that many seem to have, but I enjoy the Legacy stuff brought in. That said, how does Sabine just shrug off a mortal wound? What just happened to Marrok? Any explanation? No? And yes, Stevenson's character and his apprentice are the two most interesting parts so far. This is making me really nervous when it comes to handling Thrawn, my favorite character of all time. The OG lightsaber fights were better is just one symptom of what I think streaming in general brings to the table: a lack of patience when it comes to creating content. Take your time people, I will wait and I will pay to enjoy your back catalog if you just promise to try and put out quality stuff when it is ready! This is why I wanted to see Thrawn in Andor and not in Ashoka. Oh well, rant over. I hope the last half of the season is better than the first.
I’m liking it. I try to hold back my true critique until the end of a season for any show. I’m certainly enjoying it more than Secret Invasion.
still a Disney star wars show
Secret Invasion wasn't even a show. It's possibly the most bare minimum effort I've seen in a TV series of that budget in the last decade.
your standards for low shouldnt be Secret Invasion, that shit is literally rock-fucking bottom, thousands of meters below "low".
Ahsoka looks enjoyable if you just turn off your brain, down two daiquiris and have a friend to talk to while you mock the failed attempts at pandering to the audience by using nostalgia but the show isn't much without that.
Everything feels so forced, the dialogues so empty "going somewhere?" so cliché, the planting is so obvious "stay together", the won't stay together. I'll keep watching, but this doesn't engage me at all outside the inevitable nostalgia for rebels. I hope I get to see Ezra, who I was ok never seeing again after rebels, but somehow, now I need to see.
Jeremy does not understand what the force is so I can't really take his complaints seriously. it's not about IF you have the force, everybody in SW has the force even Jabba the Hutt. It's a matter of will to learn to control the force and talent. The reason they use the term: Force-sensitive is that some people have natural talent (miniclorians). So Sabine does have the force, the will to learn, it's just a matter of time before she can use it.
Yeah but that doesn't mean just open a force school and everyone will learn it and that's not even the complaint, it's that the Sabine's character was changed significantly as being capable of using the force and not being capable of using the force is a big change for a character in star wars and they just sell it like hot potatoes and what is there to bitch about, I mean Sabine should be dead by that lightsaber impalement surgery that she got.
Jeremy please stop offending Ai by comparing it to this show.
I firmly believe that replacing the "writers" - who are currently striking because they legitimately think they're still not getting paid enough for their "amazing" work - with an AI, would result in a longterm improvement ^^
4:19 and if you have seen rebels you still don't know why thrawn is a threat
Ahsoka probably figured that Luke needed to reestablish the Jedi order long-term while she left to find Thawn short-term.
To be fair timeline is a bitch, so we have no idea when that scene from Book of Boba Fett happened relative to this series
You said, what I thought after the introduction of Baylan and Shin. They should have made a series about them. Would have been something new, with NEW interesting characters. Sad Ray is no longer around a spin-off would have been nice, also.
Disney just milking and souring fans with their IP's namely Star Wars and Marvel.
Its kind of weird that a company as large as Disney don't realize when its time to give a story a break and focus on launch new movie IP's. Can anyone name anything on Disneyplus other than Marvel or Star Wars or old nostalgia movies and shows.
Thats why Netflix does so good it does not water down a Movie or Tv show IP. Netflix is like 2 movies thats it, 3 seasons thats to much let's move on. Make them beg us for another one. Rather than make 10 movies because part 1 did well.
Hey Jeremy! Great meeting you at Pax West!! Ahsoka - Cardboard Acting. I cannot get through even one episode. Everything is just. taken from the old trilogy with a lot of Star Wars queues to pop them memberberries. Really just...bad. I know that all of these actors and performers are capable of so much more. I don't get why they are all so reserved. It leaves me with the taste like. this could have been so good but they are failing at every point.
I'm going back to Futureman.
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Ps: update -- episode 4 finally was decent. I watched all the “previously on..” I couldn’t get thru any of the other episodes though. Happy to move on.
Asoka has this droid versed in thousands of years in training Jedi, you would think that it could help Luke out with his new Jedi school, but Asoka’s like nope I’m not even a Jedi but he’s coming with me…
or the fact that's she's training someone with barely any connection to the force in the Jedi ways.
I love that he’s slowly lost that youthful optimism about Star Wars. Just like the rest of us
I've really enjoyed it so far. So what you or any of these online critics say, means little to me.
So if you didn't enjoy it then you'd be more receptive to their comments? Sounds like you're pretty weak minded
Thanks for keeping it real, Jeremy. Too many people lap up these Star Wars shows purely on the member berries alone. This is what leads to more and more crap being pushed out. I speak to my colleagues at work and feel like I'm going crazy, they get so excited for content without really ever thinking about the overall quality. Attention spans are so short now I suppose.
We need to expect more from these stories, not be happy with inconsistent, cartoony nonsense. Meh has become the standard to expect, to even be excited by. It's like everyone is happy to put up with multiple episodes of crap just to get their nostalgia fix. Hopefully things can change with more reviews and critiques like yours, Jeremy. Cheers!
Damn bro, get out of my head! (You literally just said everything I’ve been thinking the last 4 weeks)
Same with both of you!! I don't know why, but whenever I go on the subreddit Star Wars or anywhere else, I feel like an outcast for seeing how meh these TV shows are. If you've seen what good media looks like, whether that be in television, on the movie screen, or in a book, you KNOW when something is good, meh or just plain bad. I also feel that the camera angles (the constant use of wide shots) are really boring and stale. Where's the sense of creativity? Seems very corporate with the lack of close-up shots. I'm always reminded of Jurassic Park, and the scene where Spielberg focuses the camera on the glass of water subtly moving with the "umph" of the T-Rex in the background.
Exactly!
Filoni has no idea how to direct live action effectively. Dawson looks bored because she likely is. Hours and hours in the make up chair just to be told to repeat her lines in a deadpan monotone can't be a good time for her. Bordizzo as Sabine is OK, she's trying, but I don't think she has a lot of range as an actor. So the story should have started basically with what happens in Ep 4 (by far the best episode), that would at least have kicked things off with a bang on the verge of the action. At least JJ Abrams would have looked at these scripts and gone "oh no, we need to start later in the story, and throw a ton of action at this from the jump" so you pick up on the character's personalities while they are in action, under duress, trying to do things, instead of them just standing around talking about their feelings.
100% agree. The shows has its arms crossed. Literally. It feels sluggish. There's no urgency to anything.
The worst part is that I think there's a good show in there somewhere. If you'd just have slightly better directing and slightly tighter editing. Can't wait to watch the inevitable fan edits in a few months. Like with 'Kenobi' I'm sure they'll be better in every way.
The newest episode was super fast paced
@@vxyz Compared to the previous three, yes. No doubt. Compared to _any_ episode of The Clone Wars or Rebels, I'd have to disagree. But glad you're satisfied.
@@NisGaarde well, they're pretty different. Live action and animation. Cw and rebles also had lots of seasons and lots of episodes. Ahsoka is one season and limited episodes too.
@@vxyz Yeah. And it's a little slow and boring so far. And I don't think the characters really "pop". They seem low-energy in general. To me. It's a directoral choice. If you like it, great. I think it needed another good trim in the editing room.
@@NisGaarde or its just you personally. You're attention span or whatever
Some valid points in this review but a bit unfair to review this series since it isn't complete. Also, I don't think this is merely a continuation of Rebels, I see elements of the 'Heir to the Empire' trilogy by Timothy Zahn and I have a feeling this show is going to end with a flourish. Ray Stevenson's character has definitely been the most interesting for me. Not a Sith, not a Jedi, more of a mercenary with force. He has shades of Count Dooku and a code he lives by, I also respect that. Personally, I've enjoyed the more Jedi-centric story of Ahsoka after the recent Mandalorian and Bobba Fett series, which I loved as well. The map to Thrawn deal is kind of cheesy but look, the bottom line is this, after the abysmal Star Wars movies recently, this is ll we have left. I think Disney has done a pretty great job with the shows, just now with the movies. Additionally, the IMDb rating has been hovering around the 8/10 mark, which is quite high, so the consensus is that the show is a success, thus far. I respect this reviewer and that he is just calling it as he sees it but some of the things he is pointing out are a bit nit-pickey. But, when you watch every major movie and series that comes out, maybe that is what happens to a person?
Remember it all leads to the Sequel Trilogy.
I can name off at least 10 shows IMBD gave solid scores to that still haven't gotten greenlit for a second season. These shows only cater to a small corner of the Fandom who haven't even read Heir of the empire. I'm glad you guys like it but don't expect anything more from shows that hardly anyone watches.
@@RJCE420 I'm struggling to understand your post, are you saying you don't think Ahsoka will be picked up for a second season? Or that you don't agree with the IMDb score? Or that you just don't like the show? Or all the above? Or none of the above?
@@TandemKnights I don't like any of the disney star wars shows. They are all spin-off of the superior animated clone wars show. Disney is wasting money on side characters and stories that ultimately mean nothing.
@@RJCE420 That's your opinion and I respect it. Just remember that opinion never equates to fact.
Lmaooo the First Order comment was gold 😂
Same man, i saw Ray Stevenson first in Rome series. Gone too soon. And yeah, him and his apparentice are pretty much the best parts of this show. I am also liking Morgan the nightsister lady. But i am more excited/concerned about Thrawn. I really hope they do justice to this charecter.
I agree about the story with Luke Skywalker. That’s what I thought it was going to be since we saw her and Luke on screen before.
“A world of consistency” where Anakin went from being one man as a force ghost to another man as a force ghost, in the same movie, and now that same man as a force ghost but wearing different clothes and having a metal arm.
“A world of consistency” where The Emperor went from being one man to being another man in the same movie.
“A world of consistency” where a bounty hunter went from having an American accent to having a New Zealand accent in the same film.
Those are nitpicks that came from the edits of the films years later, doesn’t really apply here
@@AwesomeAnthonyProductions They are nitpicks to you, possibly. To me they ruined the OT and I had to get bootlegs to have copies of the original theatrical films. It applies here as being an intentionally filmed conflict/contradiction and I think it’s even worse than the example Jeremy gives. Jeremy’s example is just a flat out stupid error.
A year ago I would have been so hyped for this. Instead I spent the weekend watching One Piece.
To be fair, Ray Stevenson's character never said he knew Anakin was Darth Vader, he only said what happened with him, which could be referencing him going bad and having to be killed by Obi-Wan.
No fam, he was talking about Vader. No one would have known he fought obiwan but yoda
@@GeminiMaddnezz864lyfe lmao, sure, only Yoda. Obi-Wan told zero people that he had to kill Anakin and that he was no longer a threat.
@@cable7152 no one ever knew Anakin was a threat. Everyone who saw him change was dead except Yoda. An Yoda never saw another Jedi besides obiwan and Luke. Obiwan did the exact same thing. Fought and then got the kids and went into hiding. Never saw another Jedi until Ezra. I think the way they are saying he knows is because they play heavily on his ability to read thoughts. So maybe at some point he read Vader and got that
@GeminiMaddnezz864lyfe I keep forgetting that Ahsoka takes place after Luke is already a Jedi, I guess plenty of people know that Anakin is Darth, so I guess he was referring to that when he said what happened with Anakin. Plus like you said, the force gives the Jedi greater knowledge. Baylan probably just read Darth's mind or felt it. Btw, the Emperor and Obi-Wan knew and they weren't dead, so not eveyone. Someone with the force could have read Obi's mind. To me it's just another bad sign of Disney convoluting everything with all these shows.
Force ghost has a robot arm is same answer to why force ghost is wearing clothes.
Bro thank you!! Every character has given me such boring vibes (minus the villains) and watching it has been such drag because of it
Yeah but baylan is so so dope
*But fr tho imagine being a casual fan* and watching this? You’d be asking,
“Who are these people?”
“Why is the show acting like I should know who they are?”
“Anakin had an apprentice?” It’s inaccessible to regular viewers.
@@firstlast9846I remember someone saying that similarly, and the response one Star Wars fan who enjoyed Ahsoka so far said that if so then media literacy is dead because the first two episodes were great setup for those who have not watched the animated shows.
@@firstlast9846 I disagree with this point. Ahsoka is an animated character, that is her origin. Most of the main characters are from Rebels. This show is for those that loved the animated shows, and there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s not for casual fans, it’s for those that loved these characters
My problem is the execution. Ahsoka is one of my favorite Star Wars characters of all time. I specifically looked for Ahsoka-centered Clone Wars episodes to rewatch. And here, it seems like her personality has been sapped out of her. I get that she’s older so she’s gonna be more mature, but there’s…nothing personality wise that matches her animated appearances.
@@firstlast9846 fuck em. Not everything has to be acessible to regular viewers.
The Anakin scene wasn’t a force ghost, because there’s no blue glow around his body. So we won’t know what it is until next week. But I’m guessing it’s Anakin from the past. Before his fall, and he somehow made his way to the world between worlds. Or it’s all a trick. Maybe it’s not really Anakin. But it’s all in Ahsoka’s head. Idk if it’s night sister magic being used by Morgan or if Ahsoka is just dreaming.
Who knows how force ghosts looks in the World between Worlds. I also interpreted it as a realm of the force beyond time so it would make sense if force ghost just appeared in their living bodies there.
@@thomasjeppesen3055world between worlds sounds like some Kingdom Hearts shit
@@bangeranginretroman3064 I don’t know what that is
@@thomasjeppesen3055 nice
Lol 😂 you will always be my favorite movie reviewer. Ive been watching you for yeeeeeeeeeaaaars!!! Your personality on screen never gets old. Your impressions (when you do them)are always spot on. I will say i miss your game reviews but i get it. Still...that god of war review you did will forever stand the hands of time. Duck duck dodge hahahaahhaa🤣🤣🤣 This is your gift. Thanks for the laughs and honest reviews over the many years. I agree with you 99% of the time. I also know when you have that...how did you put it bro?..."elixir" hahahahaa yeah sure any who...when you have your drinky drink and glass ALL I KNOW IS ITS ABOUT TO GO DOWN! Your epic dude. Any way have a blessed day and praise the lord and creator
I first saw him when I saw a review of ME3 (before they patched tf out of it) and he was like “I know some of you are saying that in this one ending Shepard takes a breath so he lived. No, he didn’t. He died in every single ending.” And I needed that honesty then like I need it now.
Not sure when or where I heard it, but I’m once again reminded of the whole line “No one hates Star Wars more than Star Wars fans.”
I'm honet to God shocked someone hasn't been *_MURDERED_* for being involved in a Star Wars project or liking it.