I have Miroku takedown in 44-40 that I bought sometime in the last couple of years. Anyone who has never seen a Miroku should check them out...they are absolutely beautiful and well made.
As an Alaskan myself I completely agree with you, this dude is a knucklehead, shoot this firearm in sub zero conditions he will rethink the big loop while wearing gloves
Years ago, I found out that ammo loads for a carbine play a very large part in accuracy. Most store bought loads burn too fast. There is a lot of loading information available that will help anyone find a load that will add to accuracy and consistency .
2 to 3 moa with top shelf ammo leaves much to be desired even with a pistol cal. breakdown. I'd like to see this model with all the video mentioned improvements in 10mm +p+p and a extended mag tube option. Handloading is a must for accuracy seekers and added ballistics, I concur. Revolver or pistol rounds are powder loaded for 6" and lower barrels. maybe with a growing pistol caliber carbine popularity ammo manufacturers will offer both.
I own 5 lever guns. From .357 mag to 45-70. Marlin (real Marlin made in 1953), Henry (all weather and model x) and Rossi. This weapon (Alaskan Take Down) is by far my favorite. It's the smoothest, best handling, very accurate and the most fun to shoot. Great job Chiappa
Damn you Bojangles! Now you’re making me want one bad! I too have a Marlin 336 RC in 30-30 made in 1955. By then, they were factory drilled and tapped. I believe that started in 1953. Am I right? Is yours drilled? Or is it a waffle top? Mine has a low powered period correct Weaver on it.
@@mr.bojangles3053 nice! No relevance to our topic but an old collector at work and former special forces soldier just gave me a Winchester Super x round in FMJ that is allegedly steel core special edition run for one guy who insisted Winchester make him special African lion hunting ammo.
I've had mine for about five year and really like it. It's fun to plink with, works well for the hunting that I do here in Florida (hogs and deer in the thick brush) and could be used for defense against two legged attackers if necessary. People complain about the price, but honestly, you're getting a lot for your money. It's basically a semi-custom rifle for under $1,500.
It's not worth the price. It's useless in it's take down form and if you're just going to carry it assembled then save some money buy one under 1 grand.
@@danielcruz2256 you realize the takedown is for transportation purposes, right? The Ruger 10/22 takedown and PC9 have both sold a lot due to the takedown option. A lot of people backpack with this stuff.
Lever action guns are fun in general. I like that you have to physically raise the gun off the table in order to rack a new round, so groups with a lever actin actually mean something. It's not a one 5 shot group, it's 5 one shot groups.
Never caught your channel before. You're a clear speaker, informed and on top of your subject. You answered every question I had, and the obligatory few others I hadn't thought of. Easy to see why you have so many subscribers. Well done.
I have this rifle in the 12'' barrel configuration, It's amazing as a packible bear defence rifle when spending lots of time in the backcountry. rock solid build quality.
We only have blacks and brown bears where I am from. Is 44 mag really OK for bear defence in Alaaska? Not slinging mud here or trying to start an argument. Honest question.
@@steddyk Thanks Johnny. If its good enuf for AK, it should be good enuf for VT. Black bears are only aggressive if you get between them and their food or cubs. Thanks for taking the time to reply.
@@geoffwalters3662 oh yeah, a 44 will whack one. There is a video floating on YT with someone whacking a black bear with a 22-250. I think we under estimate rounds a bit
All the rifles and AR builds done my teenage daughters will always go back to the lever action for fun practice and sniping- will grab the Henry 22 Lr and Marlin lever and plink all day calling shots
If you don’t need a takedown, HenryUSA makes some really nice lever action rifles, all American made. Own a 45-70 that’s really nice. They offer rifles in numerous calibers 22lr on up.
I have one of their least expensive 22lr rifles and it's a really nice gun for the price. Very smooth action and a great shooter. I'd love a 45/70 but I just don't have any need for one. If I remember right they are committed to being 100% American made too, not built in the US from foreign parts like so many companies seem to do.
The 1892 design is always a great choice. I have several Of the Rossi “92” variety, all of which handle the stoutest loadings made with no problems. And while I would consider a take-down rifle , the cost will be a consideration. $1000 is too much.
The rifle arrived today and I dialed in the scope just a couple hours ago th-cam.com/users/postUgkxQt2uORDRfFOVSrO4idv4B90ThT6EOnEL . I haven’t shot with a scope in probably 25 years. The X on the left was my target. (the shot almost in the bullseye on the right X was my father in laws first shot after I made adjustments) The two shots circled are my first 2 shots. Then I brought it down - shot once. Then brought it over to the left. From there zeroed it in to dead center. This all was from 25 yards out. Follow instructions carefully when mounting the scope. So far I'm very happy with the purchase.
@@SLFYSH That doesn't mean it wasn't a factory second that was rejected to be sold to a consumer though. Flaking coatings, snail trails, shitty milling are generally the norm on seconds if they let you acquire those. I should have said it more in those terms, but I wasn't thinking. I apologize for that.
I love lever action rifles, my aunt has a Marlin in 357 that is a great little gun. But the best one I ever had was a Winchester model 1894. It was built just after WW2 and of course chambered in my opinion the best caliber ever 3030. I would say there has been more big game taken with that rifle than anything else. It was a real sad day when Winchester stopped making them.
Chiappa actually makes decent guns in my experience. I have one of their SAA style revolvers in .22 lr and .22 Magnum. It works great, it's accurate, reliable, affordable, comfortable to shoot. really everything I want in a revolver.
Short dudes can shorten their stock. The fact that chiappa make these sized for full sized adults is a positive selling point. Adding length is harder than trimming it....
Bought one of these five years ago,had the stock cut and a soft recoil pad put on,then had sling swivel studs installed,the gunsmith had to drill through the front forend cap and it turned out great,i also put a leather stitching over the big loop lever and that help with speed shooting,my only complaint is the octagon barrel is heavier than i like for an all day hiking gun,no issues with the gun or finish and i would have preferred if chiappa wood have just used synthectic stocks. Great review.
I bought a takedown lever action made by browning about two years ago that I really like. It’s the browning BLR. It’s available in several different calibers. I bought the 308 version. It weighs about six and three-quarter pounds. Mine is stainless steel. I’ve used it to take elk and deer. MSRP at the time was about $1300 and I paid 1150.
I’d like to have one in a major rifle caliber and another in a major pistol caliber. And there goes my fine champagne tastes when I have a homemade beer budget. If I survive the coming zombie/boog apocalypse, I’ll have 4 of every gun I ever wanted and there’ll be no ammo shortage. Wait a minute, that sounds like heaven, so did I survive or not?? Lmao 😜
Theyre almost $2000 though. A rossi or regular chiappa is under $600...a Henry is under $750, and even a real early 1900s winchester can be had for under $1500
@@Shadow0fd3ath24 None of them takedown, though. With the possible exception of the antique, which will bring its own set of foibles. And the Miroku will be markedly better quality than the rest. Just depends what you're looking for!
Yes I have a trip to my dealer to pick up a brand new Miroku 1892 DLX takedown in 44 Mag - yes they still make them in small runs - only came in yesterday after a 8 month wait - cannot wait to get my hands on it.
I looked at the Chiappa Alaskan off and on for a few years, but just recently picked up the Winchester Shot Show special you mentioned--indeed a takedown, .44 magnum, great quality wood/fit/finish. The Chiappa might be a bit more field-friendly (chrome steel rather than blued, rubberized wood rather than varnished walnut, better stock sights unless you love buckhorns), but the Winchester is just classy. Major downside to the Winchester, of course, is that they're darn hard to find.
@@Shadow0fd3ath24 You can find the Winchester takedowns for a lot less than $2000 (i.e., under $1500, maybe even under $1400)--you just have to be obsessive in your search, refuse to pay more, and be patient. Really patient.
My dad had a 1893 model Marlin 3030 that was a take down model. That was the only lever take down I ever saw. It was the rifle, that held 9 rounds with one in the chamber. It’s still in the family. He picked it up when he was around 18 out west. Had a raised front sight I figured for long distance shooting. Very accurate.
Outstanding review! Very comprehensive, which left me with no questions; that is a first for me. At this price point, there is no "nit-picking" so blemishes and sharp points should be discussed, which you did quite well! Thank you for a great job, keep up the good work.
If this gun was cheaper, under a thousand, more people would get it but because lever guns are more of hobby kind of gun nowadays, generally only people who are enthusiasts would get this
To a point, you're right. I have a personalized Henry Big Boy in 45-70 that was purchased at a group rate for $950. I'm not an enthusiast so much but, at that price, I couldn't pass it up. Still wish the group would have listened to me and went with something like this or the Marlin 1895 all-weather. Those are a workman's rifle. The Henry is a showpiece.
More people would buy it if it was cheaper... but the same could be said for anything. I would love to see a sub-$1000 takedown lever action, but I doubt whether it's possible to make one at that price and expect it to be any good. If anyone could pull it off, it would be Ruger. Since they just purchased Marlin, maybe they'll try some takedown models eventually.
@@LuckyGunner True. Perhaps just an inexpensive lever action. Doesn't have to be a break down. Outside of debating practical uses like with revolvers all day, there is still an allure and a market for old style guns of all types but because of the fact that they aren't made as much as they once were, the price is up.
So, here I was looking at motorcycles, and because I am also a fan of "different" or eclectic firearms, your video was on the menu...well...here is my review of your review.. bravo zulu for the "just-the-facts" master class :-) People should be made to watch this before publishing ANY review of ANY product. I will never buy a take-down lever action, but am a little closer to being hand-gun-lever-action curious :-) Thanks again, and keep them coming!
I just bought one of these recently in .357 Mag. It goes great with my original 1892 that was converted to .357. I have enjoyed it quite a bit. I do have two minor complaints. The screws should have all been hex heads and there should have been sling points. Other then that. Absolutely love it
I have the Alaskan and Ridge Runner , both 12 inch and both chrome . Both have the big lever that i have wrapped in paracord . Both are early models without a pic rail so the rear sights were replaced with a pic rail . Both have Aimpoint T2 Micros on them . Drilled a pilot hole in the butts and screwed in a sling swivel stud and up front on the left side i took the screw out of the nose cap , tapped the holes and screwed in a swivel stud . Works good .
Thank you for sharing your knowledge, because what you bring up to look for is something people don’t even think about until much later after they own it. One should expect a great looking accurate weapon for that price tag. Great video once again, thank you for sharing
Biased or not brother, tis truly a masterpiece. I like tactical stuff but this caught my eye at the thumbnail. It’s beautiful, so well crafted. A wonderful mix of the old school design and new features like the fiber optic front sight and pic rail. If this is available with a threaded barrel I’m getting one.
As always thanks for giving a good review, not looking for one of these in particular, but hoping Ruger Marlin will produce solid levers because I would like a 30-30 once I've heard reviewers state that they think Ruger has upped the game where Remington failed.
Some years ago I had one, but it was a Winchester, in 38-40. I got it from a friend, it had been passed down through his family for quite some time. It looked like it was maybe 40 years old. Some honest wear but the bluing still looked pretty decent. I took it to a gun show to try to find out about it, and ended up with a conga line of collectors following me around wanting to look at it and touch it and try to get me to sell it to them. One dealer looked up the serial number in some book he had and told me it was made in the first year it was issued. Another dealer told me it was a takedown, and showed me how to snap the little lever down and unscrew the ammunition tube. I had no idea! Neither did my friend! I knew the lever flipped down but I thought it was a "micro monopod" for lack of a better term -- something you'd flip down to rest the tip of the barrel on a table or branch or something. Why that half inch or so would make a difference, let alone one meriting the cost of building and assembling the parts never occurred to me. Sheesh. I ended up having a really bad case of hard times -- giving most of my income to lawyers (the custody case from hell), and then had my body turned to hamburger when a doped-up 19 year old rammed my Chevette with her Olds 98 doing 45 MPH while I was stopped behind a car at an intersection. So, I sold it to a friend for $900, which was what I'd paid for it (I have this thing about not profiting from friends), which was what a gun shop had offered my friend's family when they took it there after his father died. Easy come, easy go. Still regret having had to sell it, I really liked it. Oh, well.
When shortening the buttstock the butt pad has a metal frame inside the rubber. When you try to trim it down the butt pad it will expose the metal frame. I found that out when I cut mine down. So I had to fit an aftermarket but pad and shaped it to fit the new stock shape.
I appreciate your perspective, and your good, honest review. For me, the price puts it into a category where fit and especially finish should be very good to exceptional. The chrome and simple polishing issues would eat at me. But I do love levers. Have two Marlins, 357 and 44, a model 94 from 1917, and a Browning 308. Both the Marlins less then 1/3 the price, both non-takedowns, but I got what I paid for. And they are FUN to shoot. Again, good review.
Another excellent video. While I'm a Marlin lever fan and have enough of them, this is an interesting rifle. I love takedown rifles and this example has an interesting process for accomplishing that task. It is a shame to see the cosmetic/finishing issues for a $1500 rifle. However almost all quality lever guns are getting pricey these days.
Considering it's called the "Alaskan", most would find the larger lever loop to be appropriate. It's made for packing since it's a takedown, and the larger loop would be needed for use of thicker gloves. Otherwise just buy a simple model 92. I just bought a like new used one for a good price. Haven't shot it yet but loved the feel when I picked it up. The action is spot on and very smooth like what you find in an action job from a gun Smith.
I have a couple of take down Winchester 1892's, 1894's and 1886's.. They have a couple of screws in the frame that can be screwed out slightly to take up the slop that will occur if you take the rifle apart a lot of times. And you mount the front sling swivel on the fore end cap, the steel is thick enough to hold it.
Thanks for the info. I learned to shoot with Winchester and Marlin lever actions (.22 and .30-30) and they were certainly a blast to shoot, especially the 30-30. It was pretty cool that our Marlin 39A would shoot all .22 rimfire cartridges (.22 short, long and long rifle) and back then, all three rounds were plentiful at the nearby gun or hardware/outdoor stores. Though I'm embarrassed to say I don't currently own a lever action...that may need to be remedied.
Mac Daddy, Hearing you talk of the Marlin 39A made me chuckle. This past weekend i had my Marlin out wiping smirking smiles off of arrogant water balloons. Among three of us, we could hardly miss. My Marlin 39 is just that, a 39 with an octagonal barrel. Not a 39A. I've never met anyone with a 39, everyone has a later 39A. Serial # says she came into this world sometime between 1932-35. She'll eat and spit out Shorts, Longs as well as Long Rifles and flat-out refuses to miss. In all her 90 years, i have no idea how many rounds she's gone through. If only she could tell her tales ...
This was a worthwhile review. Thanks. I wish for the money theyd take a bit more pride in fit and finish but we live in a era where the producers dont give a damn. A few weeks ago i picked up a new Marlin 1894 SBL 44mag for $999 before tax. Yeah i got a good deal. Overall it was very well machined precisely on the mating surfaces by Remington and the stocks and fitment were very good. The downside is the trigger is horrific and i can fix that. The bolt and ejection port were nearly razor sharp and would easy cut fingers or anything else. I took a stone and broke all the edges so its no longer a Ginsu knife product. But overall its very good with the smoothest Marlin 44 rifle i own and i have other older JM made vintage Marlins. So while not perfect or even really acceptable its better than some freak show horror stories ive read about folks getting. I suspose the downside is my Marlin isnt a takedown and i completely see how a takedown rifle is of utility to transport or store in certain situations. I get it. And i also get why you are high on those revolver caliber carbines. In something like 44mag they become very useful for everything for self defense with lower powered loads, to very capable tools against things like elk, bear, moose at ranges up to 100yds. But like you say the takedown rifles are pricey. Id love to have one really badly and looked into a Browning BLR but i can never find one and a leveraction suits me as im a left eye-shooter. I have found an solution in that i have a left hand Ruger Scout rifle 16" barrel and found a fella who does takedown conversions on Ruger bolt actions. So, as much as i want a Chiappa 92 levergun im going to go for having my Ruger scout turned into a takedown and having detachable mags. Anyway thats my plan. Ill be able to run my 5rnd and 10rnd mags and have equal capacity of the pistol carbines on demand by switching in a 10rnd mag on demand. Cost is aboit 900-$1000 for the conversion.
Thanks for the review help with my decision to buy one and I’m very happy with it. Adding to my comment from 2 years ago was happy with it till it blew up in my hands
@@jphillipsf 1.300€ you need to either be hunter or sport shooter. I‘m the ladder. Requirements: 1 year membership in shooting club, regular practice + test. And of course no criminal record😉
I thought it would be somewhat cheaper, I guess buying one in the USA might not be too bad (price wise) and that is very nice about the regulations for gun owning in Germany, thanks for the feedback Bronson_357.
I JUST GOT MINE YESTERDAY 4/26/2021 and i can not be happier, i check every single screw, every part and i could not find a single imperfection mine is nearly perfect and I said nearly because the brace that hold the magazine tube is kind of tight and it makes son marks on the tube when i was taking it down, but that is expect it to happens and it is fire arm over all, I Iove mine. I got it in 357 magun and they have them in stock right now 4/27/2021 but I was told they are selling on back order cause they just got a few, and they have no idea when the next shipment will be. IT IS GOOD TO SAY THAT the 357 magnum DOES NOT CICLE 38 special at all cause the length of the cartrige. Other than that it is a peace of art and price is ten dollar more of what the advertice.
The Browning BLR comes as a takedown, is chambered in modern rimless cartridges, and is made to a higher quality standard for substantially less money.
I had a Alaskan 44 I bought it at Taylor Arm's in Winchester,Va. Unfortunately I had to sell it when I got sick. FACT it shoots EXTREMELY well. I would love to have it back.
My Marlin 1894 44 Mag and my Rossi Mares Leg had a sharp loading gate and surrounding frame. As with all of my rifles and pistols, I end up reworking all of the component pieces to remove sharp edges and re-slope the loading ramp to prevent jamming with different types of projectiles.
I know it’s not the most ideal solution to the sling issue, but perhaps a nice dark leather scabbard would suffice for some. Thinking about getting the same for my 1895sbl.
seems like this rifle needs a production reset, esp at that price point. finish issues are really important to resolve for a rifle that's meant for extreme environments. a shame since it seems like the action and performance are overall pretty good.
Chris for a sling setup, suggest adding a saddle ring to the left side of the receiver. Run a single point sling into the saddle ring. Carry it like a single point AR15. Calvary/Dragoon troops centuries ago used to have a leather sash over the shoulder with a metal hook.
You aren't kidding. With all the quality issues that were pointed out in this video I expected it to be around $700 or something, but they're wanting 1,500 Euros for this thing. Euros! That's like $1,800! Ridiculous!
@@Erin-Thor sadly there are too many out there that think its all things shiny are stainless :o [i see your point and share in your lol ] too many think brushed nickle is as good as Stainless :o [it only takes 1 ;)]
I owned one until last year and it was very reliable and very accurate and it was in 44 magnum. In case anyone is wondering Taylor Arms is located in Winchester Virginia and their open house is great when they have them.
I really wanted one of the 12" Canadian models but i don't think any came to the UK. I've been running a .357 Chiappa '92 trapper for a few years now and still love it. All I've done is polish the internals and changed the sights, fantastic little carbine.
What!? Wait, dont you guys have to keep guns locked up at a gun range or public armory? I hear stories of guys finding a way around some of the firearms laws by adding tons of names to the title or deed of a range or to the owners paperwork as a leans of allowing more people to carry/purchase guns. Not sure exactly how your laws work now, only that Luty was a British patriot lol.
@@hardbrocklife No, we can keep them wherever we like provided they are secured properly. I haven't heard of anything like that, but there isn't any real difficulty in obtaining firearms if you have a good reason to do so, it just takes a bit of time.
I was thinking it would be $700-$1,000. Not much gun for double that price. I was totally on board until you mentioned the price. That loading gate edge is also a deal breaker. Cool concept though.
That and the wind-up-toy device to reattach the mag tube to the firearm. "Magazines are the most common issue with repeating firearms....so let's make it where you can time the tube out of spec, and induce failures."
@@OutsideTheTargetDemographic To be fair, you could argue the opposite - If the tube magazine is the most common point of failure, making it central to the locking system is the best (Or perhaps most economical and consistent) way to ensure it is always tight and in the correct position.
@@ragingbombast I'd argue the less timing, movement, or moving parts to a magazine, the better. This seems like a great way to damage an already fragile, exposed component of the firearm. That said, I have yet to damage any of my tube loaders enough to prevent function, but then I don't stalk through heavy woods with 44 mags in a tube hunting bear either.
@@christophernemeth421 Possibly, I don't know. If it does, I still would say that design is prone to issues. It is nice that it acts almost as a locking lug, along with the chamber of the barrel, into the back half, but it introduces new components that can break, strip, or fail: Winding arm Winding mechanism Entire magazine tube now reciprocates fore/aft New point for grit/debris to enter the action Threads/junctions to misalign/bend/strip/ect. Plus the prior video Chris did saying lever actions arent as robust as newer systems, parts are specialized/handfitted/harder to find a gun smith for, ect ect. I applaud the effort, and it clearly does work and does sell, but it's inherently a more fragile platform than others, for a higher price of admission too.
I always liked the Browning .44 MAG lever action. and it holds 10 rounds. No complaints about the rifle, shoots fine, accurate enough, fairly light weight, think it's a 20 inch barrel if memory serves.
And when that saddle ring hits you in the dog tooth when you are using heavy loads, you'll take a hack saw to it. I though I had knocked a tooth out. This was with a Rossi 92 copy in .44 Mag.
I got the old version .44, have not fired it yet, mine seems to have the threaded holes for the rail slightly off which it is odd. I have never contacted Taylor or Chiappa as I have not used the rifle yet. Also, I paid for the bag apart ($59.00+tax) on top of $1400.00 +tax for the rifle when I bought it few years back. I recently acquired a Rhino 30DS and it is a joy to use.
As for the loop, it's called the Alaskan so the size of it does make sense because for good portions of the year just kind of have gloves on heavy gloves on.
Yes the outer metal parts are chromed and the wood parts are covered by rubber. This however does not necessarily make the gun very weather resistant - that depends what the inner metal parts are made of. My piece got significant discoloring within a month in the truck trunk.
I've never been too fussed about a few minor finish blemishes from the factory. I'm rough on equipment, so I'm probably gonna do worse in a few hunting trips with this thing lol
This. I always remind people that it's a tool like any other, and tools get beat up. For a couple of my guns that are easy to separate from the stock, I have a nice, glossy stock in addition to the one I'd normally have on it that gets all scratched and beat up.
Thanks for the review, I’m gonna look for one of these rifles. I wonder how it would work with 44 mag shot shell loads for another survival rifle option?
I would like Ruger / Marlin to build an 1894 44 like this , 20" all stainless , Oct Barrel , TWIST RATE = 1/19 " , same as the 77/44 & Redhawk . I don't need a take down , I would rather have it as strong as possible . Buy made in USA as much as reasonable . Thanks !
i have this carbine in 44 RM since one year (bought june 2020). it's very light, pleasant and fun to fire. I shoot around 400 bullet with it, mostly fiocchi, magtech, winchester and SB. My 2 sons, my daughter and my gf tried it as well and we never had any problems. The action is very good and fluid directly out of the box. this is a good and nice Italian carbine 👍👍 EDIT(august 2022): I bought a new ones with picatinny rail, it is the new model and many point were optimized and b tw dismounted the new one is far much harder than the old one like u told in the video 🤗 I don't like to force this opening, so maybe I will try after each shooting session until it's going easier 🤗
I have shot several Chiappa firearms. All of them have worked very well, but I agree that they seem overly complex. I believe they hired all their engineers from Bavarian Motor Works. Thanks for this, Chris. I think my next toy will be a .357 takedown.
I have this rifle in .357. Great shooter lots of fun. I’m trying to come up with a carry case for it made out of a wool blanket. The 2 pieces when rolled up (hopefully) looks like a rolled up blanket. Don’t quite have it dialed in yet.
I just wish the Henry Model X (in 357) had the stats of this rifle. The Henry holds one less round, has a barrel that is 1.4" longer, and weighs almost 1.5 lbs more. The weight is a huge negative factor (however, it has some nice positives too: rail, tube empty feature, threaded barrel, and nice accessory mounts). But that 7.3 lb weight (before accessories)... Ugghh.
I have Miroku takedown in 44-40 that I bought sometime in the last couple of years. Anyone who has never seen a Miroku should check them out...they are absolutely beautiful and well made.
... the Miroku 92s have rebounding hammers and useless lawyer safeties ... no thanks ... I like my 92s the way JMB designed them
The gun is called the Alaskan, so I am not sure why our guy here has issue with the lever loop being made to accommodate heavy gloves.
Good point
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As an Alaskan myself I completely agree with you, this dude is a knucklehead, shoot this firearm in sub zero conditions he will rethink the big loop while wearing gloves
Because it's takedown and because of the finish. (Stainless, won't rust outdoors...theoretically.... I've seen some dubious alloys that don't hold up)
He has soft hands. 😘
Years ago, I found out that ammo loads for a carbine play a very large part in accuracy. Most store bought loads burn too fast. There is a lot of loading information available that will help anyone find a load that will add to accuracy and consistency .
2 to 3 moa with top shelf ammo leaves much to be desired even with a pistol cal. breakdown. I'd like to see this model with all the video mentioned improvements in 10mm +p+p and a extended mag tube option. Handloading is a must for accuracy seekers and added ballistics, I concur. Revolver or pistol rounds are powder loaded for 6" and lower barrels. maybe with a growing pistol caliber carbine popularity ammo manufacturers will offer both.
Leverevolution...
One of the all time best gun breakdown videos ever published on youtube. Truly a masterclass
I own 5 lever guns. From .357 mag to 45-70. Marlin (real Marlin made in 1953), Henry (all weather and model x) and Rossi. This weapon (Alaskan Take Down) is by far my favorite. It's the smoothest, best handling, very accurate and the most fun to shoot. Great job Chiappa
Damn you Bojangles! Now you’re making me want one bad! I too have a Marlin 336 RC in 30-30 made in 1955. By then, they were factory drilled and tapped. I believe that started in 1953. Am I right? Is yours drilled? Or is it a waffle top? Mine has a low powered period correct Weaver on it.
By the way, I live around the Oneonta area Upstate New York. The same place Jerry Jeff Walker was born in, who wrote Mr. Bojangles.
@@factorybear5264 Mine is not drilled and tapped. Flat top. I believe 1954 was when they started.
@@mr.bojangles3053 nice! No relevance to our topic but an old collector at work and former special forces soldier just gave me a Winchester Super x round in FMJ that is allegedly steel core special edition run for one guy who insisted Winchester make him special African lion hunting ammo.
I've had nothing but problems with the 45-70
Chris good to see you back. Loving the lever gun series! Keep 'em coming!
I've had mine for about five year and really like it. It's fun to plink with, works well for the hunting that I do here in Florida (hogs and deer in the thick brush) and could be used for defense against two legged attackers if necessary. People complain about the price, but honestly, you're getting a lot for your money. It's basically a semi-custom rifle for under $1,500.
Indeed, it is a great gun at the price. I do wish they made one in .45 Colt personally but still a sweet looking and shooting gun for the price.
@@Predalien195 they have them in 45 colt , they just stopped production on 45colt models
@@Rugged357 I know, I guess I should have said I wish they still made them.
It's not worth the price. It's useless in it's take down form and if you're just going to carry it assembled then save some money buy one under 1 grand.
@@danielcruz2256 you realize the takedown is for transportation purposes, right? The Ruger 10/22 takedown and PC9 have both sold a lot due to the takedown option. A lot of people backpack with this stuff.
Every video is a rundown of modifications a man who has never been in a gunfight would make to weapons, some of which, have saved my life.
Lever action rifles in pistol calibers are a lot of fun.
And useful. This would make a great deer gun for a lot of close range situations
Yep. I like mine.
Lever action guns are fun in general.
I like that you have to physically raise the gun off the table in order to rack a new round, so groups with a lever actin actually mean something.
It's not a one 5 shot group, it's 5 one shot groups.
Very true.
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This man is an encyclopedia of guns. I enjoy his knowledge. Thankyou, and cheers from Canada, Alberta. We are fucked up here for home defense.
Never caught your channel before. You're a clear speaker, informed and on top of your subject. You answered every question I had, and the obligatory few others I hadn't thought of. Easy to see why you have so many subscribers. Well done.
I have this rifle in the 12'' barrel configuration, It's amazing as a packible bear defence rifle when spending lots of time in the backcountry. rock solid build quality.
We only have blacks and brown bears where I am from. Is 44 mag really OK for bear defence in Alaaska? Not slinging mud here or trying to start an argument. Honest question.
@@geoffwalters3662 before the 500 S&W a lot of folks carried .44 mag in Alaska. Just hope you don’t miss!
@@steddyk Thanks Johnny. If its good enuf for AK, it should be good enuf for VT. Black bears are only aggressive if you get between them and their food or cubs. Thanks for taking the time to reply.
So which calibers are this available in? I’d really prefer a bear 🐻 stopper! If it’s only a pedobear stopper it’s still cool. 😎
@@geoffwalters3662 oh yeah, a 44 will whack one. There is a video floating on YT with someone whacking a black bear with a 22-250. I think we under estimate rounds a bit
All the rifles and AR builds done my teenage daughters will always go back to the lever action for fun practice and sniping- will grab the Henry 22 Lr and Marlin lever and plink all day calling shots
What a gorgeous piece
If you don’t need a takedown, HenryUSA makes some really nice lever action rifles, all American made. Own a 45-70 that’s really nice. They offer rifles in numerous calibers 22lr on up.
I have one of their least expensive 22lr rifles and it's a really nice gun for the price. Very smooth action and a great shooter. I'd love a 45/70 but I just don't have any need for one. If I remember right they are committed to being 100% American made too, not built in the US from foreign parts like so many companies seem to do.
Beautiful guns, but $1200 is more than some can afford.
@@johnnygnoneeded the 22 I have was about $300 without any panic buying.
@@chrisjones6002 That is about double that now, if you can find .22 ammo.
@@johnnygnoneeded I'm sure. I wish everyone would calm down so things can get better for all of us.
The 1892 design is always a great choice. I have several Of the Rossi “92” variety, all of which handle the stoutest loadings made with no problems. And while I would consider a take-down rifle , the cost will be a consideration. $1000 is too much.
Personally a takedown for me is a survival weapon. Price point will never be an issue when it could possibly save my life
It's a $1600 gun...
I have a couple of older take down shotguns. I actually reallly appreciate that system now and wish more modern guns did that.
I have it in 357 and I love this takedown I had no issues and it came out very accurate out the box by far my favorite riffle I own.
That thing is a beauty, looks like an excellent pack gun
I’m pretty sure that they are either made by Pedersoli, or Chiappa makes them for Pedersoli.
Best thing of being a TH-camr able to share reviews guns and cars .
The rifle arrived today and I dialed in the scope just a couple hours ago th-cam.com/users/postUgkxQt2uORDRfFOVSrO4idv4B90ThT6EOnEL . I haven’t shot with a scope in probably 25 years. The X on the left was my target. (the shot almost in the bullseye on the right X was my father in laws first shot after I made adjustments) The two shots circled are my first 2 shots. Then I brought it down - shot once. Then brought it over to the left. From there zeroed it in to dead center. This all was from 25 yards out. Follow instructions carefully when mounting the scope. So far I'm very happy with the purchase.
Looks like fun gun. I love lever actions in pistol calibers. 357/38 is my absolute favorite 🥰
Glad you're still making videos, Baker.
Minor sloppiness you don't like to see period, but on a $1600-$2000 rifle...forget it!
@me Me That's what Chris said in the video.
Considering how many times this thing has probably been sent out and used, it is probably surprising it is in this good of shape lol.
These are obvious manufacturing defects. -Not ones from rough handling.
@@SLFYSH That doesn't mean it wasn't a factory second that was rejected to be sold to a consumer though. Flaking coatings, snail trails, shitty milling are generally the norm on seconds if they let you acquire those. I should have said it more in those terms, but I wasn't thinking. I apologize for that.
@me Me just checked, yep $1400 range at the low end.
Hey Chris, yes, they still do the 12" barrel version of the 44 Mag. Alaskan Take down 1892.
There's even a take down 12" version of the 1886 in 45-70.
I'm a fan of 45/70 I have an H&R single shot nothing fancy, I use Hornady Leverevolutions and it's alot of fun
I’d really have fun with a single shot .45-70 for both hunting and range shooting. Big Bang means big fun!
12” barreled 45-70? That sounds like a flame thrower.
I love lever action rifles, my aunt has a Marlin in 357 that is a great little gun. But the best one I ever had was a Winchester model 1894. It was built just after WW2 and of course chambered in my opinion the best caliber ever 3030. I would say there has been more big game taken with that rifle than anything else. It was a real sad day when Winchester stopped making them.
Chiappa actually makes decent guns in my experience. I have one of their SAA style revolvers in .22 lr and .22 Magnum. It works great, it's accurate, reliable, affordable, comfortable to shoot. really everything I want in a revolver.
I have owned this in .44 for 12 months, I agree with Chris, change to the small loop lever. This is a smooth action gun.
Short dudes can shorten their stock. The fact that chiappa make these sized for full sized adults is a positive selling point. Adding length is harder than trimming it....
Bought one of these five years ago,had the stock cut and a soft recoil pad put on,then had sling swivel studs installed,the gunsmith had to drill through the front forend cap and it turned out great,i also put a leather stitching over the big loop lever and that help with speed shooting,my only complaint is the octagon barrel is heavier than i like for an all day hiking gun,no issues with the gun or finish and i would have preferred if chiappa wood have just used synthectic stocks.
Great review.
I bought a takedown lever action made by browning about two years ago that I really like. It’s the browning BLR. It’s available in several different calibers. I bought the 308 version. It weighs about six and three-quarter pounds. Mine is stainless steel. I’ve used it to take elk and deer. MSRP at the time was about $1300 and I paid 1150.
Seems to me a better option than that huge 300 blackout gun from last episode
I’d like to have one in a major rifle caliber and another in a major pistol caliber. And there goes my fine champagne tastes when I have a homemade beer budget. If I survive the coming zombie/boog apocalypse, I’ll have 4 of every gun I ever wanted and there’ll be no ammo shortage. Wait a minute, that sounds like heaven, so did I survive or not?? Lmao 😜
For a sling mount, drill and tap the forward guard end cap. I've seen this done on many old original mod 92's and it works very well.
Winchester still offers a pistol caliber takedown. It's called the "Model 1892 Deluxe Octagon Takedown" They are made in Japan and are quite nice.
Theyre almost $2000 though. A rossi or regular chiappa is under $600...a Henry is under $750, and even a real early 1900s winchester can be had for under $1500
@@Shadow0fd3ath24 None of them takedown, though. With the possible exception of the antique, which will bring its own set of foibles. And the Miroku will be markedly better quality than the rest. Just depends what you're looking for!
Yes I have a trip to my dealer to pick up a brand new Miroku 1892 DLX takedown in 44 Mag - yes they still make them in small runs - only came in yesterday after a 8 month wait - cannot wait to get my hands on it.
I looked at the Chiappa Alaskan off and on for a few years, but just recently picked up the Winchester Shot Show special you mentioned--indeed a takedown, .44 magnum, great quality wood/fit/finish. The Chiappa might be a bit more field-friendly (chrome steel rather than blued, rubberized wood rather than varnished walnut, better stock sights unless you love buckhorns), but the Winchester is just classy.
Major downside to the Winchester, of course, is that they're darn hard to find.
@@Shadow0fd3ath24 You can find the Winchester takedowns for a lot less than $2000 (i.e., under $1500, maybe even under $1400)--you just have to be obsessive in your search, refuse to pay more, and be patient. Really patient.
Excellent reviews. Straightforward and no B.S. Thank you very much
My dad had a 1893 model Marlin 3030 that was a take down model. That was the only lever take down I ever saw. It was the rifle, that held 9 rounds with one in the chamber. It’s still in the family. He picked it up when he was around 18 out west. Had a raised front sight I figured for long distance shooting. Very accurate.
Thats amazing! You have yourself a true Gem!
Outstanding review! Very comprehensive, which left me with no questions; that is a first for me. At this price point, there is no "nit-picking" so blemishes and sharp points should be discussed, which you did quite well! Thank you for a great job, keep up the good work.
If this gun was cheaper, under a thousand, more people would get it but because lever guns are more of hobby kind of gun nowadays, generally only people who are enthusiasts would get this
To a point, you're right. I have a personalized Henry Big Boy in 45-70 that was purchased at a group rate for $950. I'm not an enthusiast so much but, at that price, I couldn't pass it up. Still wish the group would have listened to me and went with something like this or the Marlin 1895 all-weather. Those are a workman's rifle. The Henry is a showpiece.
More people would buy it if it was cheaper... but the same could be said for anything. I would love to see a sub-$1000 takedown lever action, but I doubt whether it's possible to make one at that price and expect it to be any good. If anyone could pull it off, it would be Ruger. Since they just purchased Marlin, maybe they'll try some takedown models eventually.
@@LuckyGunner True. Perhaps just an inexpensive lever action. Doesn't have to be a break down. Outside of debating practical uses like with revolvers all day, there is still an allure and a market for old style guns of all types but because of the fact that they aren't made as much as they once were, the price is up.
Honestly I’d rather have a Henry x and just deal with not having it be a takedown
Wrong, I will take an 1873 Winchester over an AR every time and I do own both models.
So, here I was looking at motorcycles, and because I am also a fan of "different" or eclectic firearms, your video was on the menu...well...here is my review of your review.. bravo zulu for the "just-the-facts" master class :-) People should be made to watch this before publishing ANY review of ANY product. I will never buy a take-down lever action, but am a little closer to being hand-gun-lever-action curious :-)
Thanks again, and keep them coming!
I just bought one of these recently in .357 Mag. It goes great with my original 1892 that was converted to .357. I have enjoyed it quite a bit. I do have two minor complaints. The screws should have all been hex heads and there should have been sling points. Other then that. Absolutely love it
Can you put 38 special in it ?
@@barlowsilver9548 yes
I have the Alaskan and Ridge Runner , both 12 inch and both chrome . Both have the big lever that i have wrapped in paracord . Both are early models without a pic rail so the rear sights were replaced with a pic rail . Both have Aimpoint T2 Micros on them . Drilled a pilot hole in the butts and screwed in a sling swivel stud and up front on the left side i took the screw out of the nose cap , tapped the holes and screwed in a swivel stud . Works good .
I love mine. Best idea for 50 state legal bug out gun. It fits in my motorcycle side case and goes with me in the backwoods all the time.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge, because what you bring up to look for is something people don’t even think about until much later after they own it. One should expect a great looking accurate weapon for that price tag. Great video once again, thank you for sharing
this is not a rifle, it's a masterpiece. I state I'm a lover of wild west age, so my comment is a bit biased. ^_^
Biased or not brother, tis truly a masterpiece. I like tactical stuff but this caught my eye at the thumbnail. It’s beautiful, so well crafted. A wonderful mix of the old school design and new features like the fiber optic front sight and pic rail. If this is available with a threaded barrel I’m getting one.
Agreed! The thing is damn-near perfect.
Thank you so much for sharing this with us bro. There is nothing better than information.This thing looks so good going down range.
As always thanks for giving a good review, not looking for one of these in particular, but hoping Ruger Marlin will produce solid levers because I would like a 30-30 once I've heard reviewers state that they think Ruger has upped the game where Remington failed.
I have a Henry 30-30 and love it!
Some years ago I had one, but it was a Winchester, in 38-40. I got it from a friend, it had been passed down through his family for quite some time. It looked like it was maybe 40 years old. Some honest wear but the bluing still looked pretty decent. I took it to a gun show to try to find out about it, and ended up with a conga line of collectors following me around wanting to look at it and touch it and try to get me to sell it to them. One dealer looked up the serial number in some book he had and told me it was made in the first year it was issued. Another dealer told me it was a takedown, and showed me how to snap the little lever down and unscrew the ammunition tube. I had no idea! Neither did my friend! I knew the lever flipped down but I thought it was a "micro monopod" for lack of a better term -- something you'd flip down to rest the tip of the barrel on a table or branch or something. Why that half inch or so would make a difference, let alone one meriting the cost of building and assembling the parts never occurred to me. Sheesh.
I ended up having a really bad case of hard times -- giving most of my income to lawyers (the custody case from hell), and then had my body turned to hamburger when a doped-up 19 year old rammed my Chevette with her Olds 98 doing 45 MPH while I was stopped behind a car at an intersection. So, I sold it to a friend for $900, which was what I'd paid for it (I have this thing about not profiting from friends), which was what a gun shop had offered my friend's family when they took it there after his father died.
Easy come, easy go. Still regret having had to sell it, I really liked it. Oh, well.
When shortening the buttstock the butt pad has a metal frame inside the rubber. When you try to trim it down the butt pad it will expose the metal frame. I found that out when I cut mine down. So I had to fit an aftermarket but pad and shaped it to fit the new stock shape.
I appreciate your perspective, and your good, honest review. For me, the price puts it into a category where fit and especially finish should be very good to exceptional. The chrome and simple polishing issues would eat at me. But I do love levers. Have two Marlins, 357 and 44, a model 94 from 1917, and a Browning 308. Both the Marlins less then 1/3 the price, both non-takedowns, but I got what I paid for. And they are FUN to shoot. Again, good review.
Another excellent video. While I'm a Marlin lever fan and have enough of them, this is an interesting rifle. I love takedown rifles and this example has an interesting process for accomplishing that task. It is a shame to see the cosmetic/finishing issues for a $1500 rifle. However almost all quality lever guns are getting pricey these days.
Marlin used to make a 45/70 lever action take down. They made it for Alaskan bush pilots, in fact, I thin that's what it was named.
I have the blackout version in 357. I really enjoy shooting it. I carry it in the bag that came with my take-down Ruger 10-22.
Love this rifle!! What a piece of engineering!!
Love this mans format
Considering it's called the "Alaskan", most would find the larger lever loop to be appropriate. It's made for packing since it's a takedown, and the larger loop would be needed for use of thicker gloves. Otherwise just buy a simple model 92. I just bought a like new used one for a good price. Haven't shot it yet but loved the feel when I picked it up. The action is spot on and very smooth like what you find in an action job from a gun Smith.
Damn this is exactly what I have been looking for.
Personally, I gauge how far we are into the ammo shortage by the length of Chris’s beard.
So judging by his beard, what stage of the shortage would you say we're in now?
Yea so considering how he keeps it trimmed I would say that’s not a very good way to measure something.
There's a ton of ammo where I live.
I have a couple of take down Winchester 1892's, 1894's and 1886's.. They have a couple of screws in the frame that can be screwed out slightly to take up the slop that will occur if you take the rifle apart a lot of times. And you mount the front sling swivel on the fore end cap, the steel is thick enough to hold it.
Thanks for the info. I learned to shoot with Winchester and Marlin lever actions (.22 and .30-30) and they were certainly a blast to shoot, especially the 30-30. It was pretty cool that our Marlin 39A would shoot all .22 rimfire cartridges (.22 short, long and long rifle) and back then, all three rounds were plentiful at the nearby gun or hardware/outdoor stores. Though I'm embarrassed to say I don't currently own a lever action...that may need to be remedied.
Mac Daddy,
Hearing you talk of the Marlin 39A made me chuckle. This past weekend i had my Marlin out wiping smirking smiles off of arrogant water balloons.
Among three of us, we could hardly miss.
My Marlin 39 is just that, a 39 with an octagonal barrel. Not a 39A. I've never met anyone with a 39, everyone has a later 39A. Serial # says she came into this world sometime between 1932-35. She'll eat and spit out Shorts, Longs as well as Long Rifles and flat-out refuses to miss. In all her 90 years, i have no idea how many rounds she's gone through. If only she could tell her tales ...
I got this but it is from the 70's. Wood grain and came with a suitcase. This is the most accurate rifle I have ever shoot.
This was a worthwhile review. Thanks. I wish for the money theyd take a bit more pride in fit and finish but we live in a era where the producers dont give a damn.
A few weeks ago i picked up a new Marlin 1894 SBL 44mag for $999 before tax. Yeah i got a good deal. Overall it was very well machined precisely on the mating surfaces by Remington and the stocks and fitment were very good. The downside is the trigger is horrific and i can fix that. The bolt and ejection port were nearly razor sharp and would easy cut fingers or anything else. I took a stone and broke all the edges so its no longer a Ginsu knife product. But overall its very good with the smoothest Marlin 44 rifle i own and i have other older JM made vintage Marlins. So while not perfect or even really acceptable its better than some freak show horror stories ive read about folks getting.
I suspose the downside is my Marlin isnt a takedown and i completely see how a takedown rifle is of utility to transport or store in certain situations. I get it. And i also get why you are high on those revolver caliber carbines. In something like 44mag they become very useful for everything for self defense with lower powered loads, to very capable tools against things like elk, bear, moose at ranges up to 100yds. But like you say the takedown rifles are pricey. Id love to have one really badly and looked into a Browning BLR but i can never find one and a leveraction suits me as im a left eye-shooter. I have found an solution in that i have a left hand Ruger Scout rifle 16" barrel and found a fella who does takedown conversions on Ruger bolt actions. So, as much as i want a Chiappa 92 levergun im going to go for having my Ruger scout turned into a takedown and having detachable mags. Anyway thats my plan. Ill be able to run my 5rnd and 10rnd mags and have equal capacity of the pistol carbines on demand by switching in a 10rnd mag on demand. Cost is aboit 900-$1000 for the conversion.
Thanks for the review help with my decision to buy one and I’m very happy with it. Adding to my comment from 2 years ago was happy with it till it blew up in my hands
Got this exact version and lovin it! Greetings from Germany
For what price?
And what type of requirements does one need to own a rifle like thus in Germany?
@@jphillipsf 1.300€ you need to either be hunter or sport shooter. I‘m the ladder. Requirements: 1 year membership in shooting club, regular practice + test. And of course no criminal record😉
I thought it would be somewhat cheaper, I guess buying one in the USA might not be too bad (price wise) and that is very nice about the regulations for gun owning in Germany, thanks for the feedback Bronson_357.
@@jphillipsf unfortunately it’s not cheaper, even though its from EU...no problem. Take care
Thank you sir, you as well.
I JUST GOT MINE YESTERDAY 4/26/2021 and i can not be happier, i check every single screw, every part and i could not find a single imperfection mine is nearly perfect and I said nearly because the brace that hold the magazine tube is kind of tight and it makes son marks on the tube when i was taking it down, but that is expect it to happens and it is fire arm over all, I Iove mine. I got it in 357 magun and they have them in stock right now 4/27/2021 but I was told they are selling on back order cause they just got a few, and they have no idea when the next shipment will be. IT IS GOOD TO SAY THAT the 357 magnum DOES NOT CICLE 38 special at all cause the length of the cartrige. Other than that it is a peace of art and price is ten dollar more of what the advertice.
The Browning BLR comes as a takedown, is chambered in modern rimless cartridges, and is made to a higher quality standard for substantially less money.
The BLR is outstanding. In a league of it's own.
Yes, with powerful rifle calibers not the pipsqueek pistol calibers.
I had a Alaskan 44 I bought it at Taylor Arm's in Winchester,Va. Unfortunately I had to sell it when I got sick. FACT it shoots EXTREMELY well. I would love to have it back.
Winchester currently offers 2 takedown variants of the 1892, both in pistol calibers including .357 and .44
My Marlin 1894 44 Mag and my Rossi Mares Leg had a sharp loading gate and surrounding frame. As with all of my rifles and pistols, I end up reworking all of the component pieces to remove sharp edges and re-slope the loading ramp to prevent jamming with different types of projectiles.
I know it’s not the most ideal solution to the sling issue, but perhaps a nice dark leather scabbard would suffice for some. Thinking about getting the same for my 1895sbl.
I have the 12” barrel in .357 magnum. High quality materials, excellent fit and finish and cycles/shoots like a dream. 😎🤘🏻🇨🇦
I’m a fellow Canadian Looking to purchase same build. Out of stock most places I look. Any advice?
seems like this rifle needs a production reset, esp at that price point. finish issues are really important to resolve for a rifle that's meant for extreme environments. a shame since it seems like the action and performance are overall pretty good.
Chris for a sling setup, suggest adding a saddle ring to the left side of the receiver. Run a single point sling into the saddle ring. Carry it like a single point AR15. Calvary/Dragoon troops centuries ago used to have a leather sash over the shoulder with a metal hook.
Excellent review, Chris, thank you.
I have one of these... I love it. My first lever action.
Absolutely love the idea. I'm always a sucker for a good lever action, and a takedown. But both? I'd be sold if not for the damn price tag.
You aren't kidding. With all the quality issues that were pointed out in this video I expected it to be around $700 or something, but they're wanting 1,500 Euros for this thing. Euros! That's like $1,800! Ridiculous!
But it’s made of brushed stainless steel! 🤣
Yep, awesome little rifle. The only downside to it is the price.
@@bellyacres7846 - My bad. I was going for humor, not accuracy. Please forgive me!
@@Erin-Thor sadly there are too many out there that think its all things shiny are stainless :o
[i see your point and share in your lol ]
too many think brushed nickle is as good as Stainless :o [it only takes 1 ;)]
I owned one until last year and it was very reliable and very accurate and it was in 44 magnum. In case anyone is wondering Taylor Arms is located in Winchester Virginia and their open house is great when they have them.
I really wanted one of the 12" Canadian models but i don't think any came to the UK. I've been running a .357 Chiappa '92 trapper for a few years now and still love it. All I've done is polish the internals and changed the sights, fantastic little carbine.
What!? Wait, dont you guys have to keep guns locked up at a gun range or public armory?
I hear stories of guys finding a way around some of the firearms laws by adding tons of names to the title or deed of a range or to the owners paperwork as a leans of allowing more people to carry/purchase guns. Not sure exactly how your laws work now, only that Luty was a British patriot lol.
@@hardbrocklife No, we can keep them wherever we like provided they are secured properly. I haven't heard of anything like that, but there isn't any real difficulty in obtaining firearms if you have a good reason to do so, it just takes a bit of time.
My favorite is the: Browning BLR '81 stainless steel Takedown lever-action with a detachable magazine (it comes in magnum cartridges also).
Thumbs up for the Jim Scouten-esk intro.
My Browning BLR chambered for 300 SWM is awesome. I like to see alternatives and thank you for doing so.
The BLR is an outstanding lever rifle. In a league of it's own, IMO.
I was thinking it would be $700-$1,000. Not much gun for double that price. I was totally on board until you mentioned the price. That loading gate edge is also a deal breaker. Cool concept though.
That and the wind-up-toy device to reattach the mag tube to the firearm. "Magazines are the most common issue with repeating firearms....so let's make it where you can time the tube out of spec, and induce failures."
@@OutsideTheTargetDemographic To be fair, you could argue the opposite - If the tube magazine is the most common point of failure, making it central to the locking system is the best (Or perhaps most economical and consistent) way to ensure it is always tight and in the correct position.
@@ragingbombast I'd argue the less timing, movement, or moving parts to a magazine, the better. This seems like a great way to damage an already fragile, exposed component of the firearm. That said, I have yet to damage any of my tube loaders enough to prevent function, but then I don't stalk through heavy woods with 44 mags in a tube hunting bear either.
@@OutsideTheTargetDemographic isn't that how the Marlin 39 take down models work as well?
@@christophernemeth421 Possibly, I don't know. If it does, I still would say that design is prone to issues. It is nice that it acts almost as a locking lug, along with the chamber of the barrel, into the back half, but it introduces new components that can break, strip, or fail:
Winding arm
Winding mechanism
Entire magazine tube now reciprocates fore/aft
New point for grit/debris to enter the action
Threads/junctions to misalign/bend/strip/ect.
Plus the prior video Chris did saying lever actions arent as robust as newer systems, parts are specialized/handfitted/harder to find a gun smith for, ect ect.
I applaud the effort, and it clearly does work and does sell, but it's inherently a more fragile platform than others, for a higher price of admission too.
I always liked the Browning .44 MAG lever action. and it holds 10 rounds. No complaints about the rifle, shoots fine, accurate enough, fairly light weight, think it's a 20 inch barrel if memory serves.
Swap out one of the pins in the receiver for a pin with a saddle ring attached and it makes a fair single-point sling mount.
And when that saddle ring hits you in the dog tooth when you are using heavy loads, you'll take a hack saw to it. I though I had knocked a tooth out. This was with a Rossi 92 copy in .44 Mag.
Excellent video review as always. Thanks very much.👍🏻
Good looking gun for sure. I'd definitely like to have one in 44 mag.
I got the old version .44, have not fired it yet, mine seems to have the threaded holes for the rail slightly off which it is odd. I have never contacted Taylor or Chiappa as I have not used the rifle yet. Also, I paid for the bag apart ($59.00+tax) on top of $1400.00 +tax for the rifle when I bought it few years back. I recently acquired a Rhino 30DS and it is a joy to use.
As for the loop, it's called the Alaskan so the size of it does make sense because for good portions of the year just kind of have gloves on heavy gloves on.
Yes the outer metal parts are chromed and the wood parts are covered by rubber. This however does not necessarily make the gun very weather resistant - that depends what the inner metal parts are made of. My piece got significant discoloring within a month in the truck trunk.
The longer stock seems contradict the name of the rifle.
'Alaskan' says you're likely going to be using it, at some point, with a heavy coat.
Good point
Agreed
They wanted to say Hilbillian not Alaskan.
And gloves!
you do know we still have summer in the north right?
Simply the Best of Winchesters
As always, Chris delivers a well-thought out video presentation. I love the lever gun series!
What
I just found this channel, and my grandpa has one of these. :D
I've never been too fussed about a few minor finish blemishes from the factory. I'm rough on equipment, so I'm probably gonna do worse in a few hunting trips with this thing lol
This. I always remind people that it's a tool like any other, and tools get beat up. For a couple of my guns that are easy to separate from the stock, I have a nice, glossy stock in addition to the one I'd normally have on it that gets all scratched and beat up.
Thanks for the review, I’m gonna look for one of these rifles. I wonder how it would work with 44 mag shot shell loads for another survival rifle option?
I would like Ruger / Marlin to build an 1894 44 like this , 20" all stainless , Oct Barrel , TWIST RATE = 1/19 " , same as the 77/44 & Redhawk . I don't need a take down , I would rather have it as strong as possible . Buy made in USA as much as reasonable . Thanks !
They outsource,buy henry if you really how much is made in the USA .
i have this carbine in 44 RM since one year (bought june 2020).
it's very light, pleasant and fun to fire.
I shoot around 400 bullet with it, mostly fiocchi, magtech, winchester and SB. My 2 sons, my daughter and my gf tried it as well and we never had any problems.
The action is very good and fluid directly out of the box.
this is a good and nice Italian carbine 👍👍
EDIT(august 2022): I bought a new ones with picatinny rail, it is the new model and many point were optimized and b tw dismounted the new one is far much harder than the old one like u told in the video 🤗 I don't like to force this opening, so maybe I will try after each shooting session until it's going easier 🤗
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I have shot several Chiappa firearms. All of them have worked very well, but I agree that they seem overly complex. I believe they hired all their engineers from Bavarian Motor Works. Thanks for this, Chris. I think my next toy will be a .357 takedown.
Would be fun to see a video on 22lr takedowns after your previous series on 22 handguns
I have this rifle in .357. Great shooter lots of fun. I’m trying to come up with a carry case for it made out of a wool blanket. The 2 pieces when rolled up (hopefully) looks like a rolled up blanket. Don’t quite have it dialed in yet.
I just wish the Henry Model X (in 357) had the stats of this rifle. The Henry holds one less round, has a barrel that is 1.4" longer, and weighs almost 1.5 lbs more. The weight is a huge negative factor (however, it has some nice positives too: rail, tube empty feature, threaded barrel, and nice accessory mounts). But that 7.3 lb weight (before accessories)... Ugghh.
Good review of a rifle that was not on my radar. Thanks! Too expensive for my needs, but I like it.