Same, it's growing on me. But, I still don't know how I feel about the blinker indicators and fuel gauge being way over there. I assume the speedometer will also be over there which feels really wrong to me, I'll probably get used to it though.
@@richardryley3660 I'm pretty sure the side view cameras are connected directly to the screens. Maybe they could have a HUD mounted on the back of the screen or on the top of the dash that projects onto the inside of the windshield. Don't know if that's in the works.
@@josiahpaez4601 There is a strip of padding on the front edge about 2 or 3 inches wide. I don't know if it would fit there. Maybe they could delete one of the cells. I'm just speculating.
Thanks for the tease, Jeff (and Chris M). It looks really clean and easy to use. I like that there is so much readily accessible on one screen. I often get frustrated navigating through menu hierarchies (often ending up in the wrong place, having to back up, try again, rinse and repeat) to find what I'm looking for. If they pull this off, it looks like most, if not all, of that will be avoided.
bright and responsive. That's the most important foundation. The UI can be improved as long as the screen can support it. I'm delighted with what I've seen!
I’m pleased apple and android will be suppling the navigation from your phone. I’m hoping the apple auto will connect via Bluetooth.. I’ve had it both ways and it’s much easier to not have the phone be tethered.
I am not a techy, but I think it might be simple enough for an older guy to figure it out. Frankly screens in cars are a distraction, more so than a radio. Having no radio, (I am ok with that) forces one to interact with a screen, and defensive drivers concentrate 100% of the time on driving. So my opinion is any screen in any car is a negative. I'm old, 76, and pride myself on my focus while driving, having almost 3 million miles of driving, I think screens are a negative, however that is what is occuring in the automotive industry.
So you don’t even like a speedometer? Just kidding agree 10000% that interaction should be minimal but unfortunately that’s not where we’re heading. Prefer tactile controls - physical buttons and dials/sliders, but understand the cost. In our digital age Aptera (& others) should enable voice control. In similar vein, my other concern, expressed to no avail, is the side window visual obstruction.
Hey Pop! this writer is just two years behind your Calander! And I can find no valid reason to find a screen distraction to a thinking driver. ANY car made has a 'screen' for the driver. It might be called a 'gauge cluster', a HUD, or the, to you, EVIL central screen. This writer is NO tech freak, but I took the effort to LEARN how the Tesla screen works in my Model 03 and WHY! A distraction, not for me. A help I would say it is
@@gr8dvd The side window issue. From those who drove Gamma, and from this writer having sat in Gamma, the side window is no big deal, just as oddly placed "A"" & "B" pillars are on ALL cars. The design is found on other cars, and its dictated by aero concerns and the fact the door will not allow a full window drop down. Your concern is answered
@ Thanks for repeating what I’ve heard/read from all the faithful but the most objective and honest review was a car enthusiast (sorry forget who) about 1.5y ago approaching a stop sign and saying, "Wow, didn’t expect that." He also remarked he still wants one for himself.
Jeff, thanks for the preview. It is unfortunate that PI-4 did not have it actually working and that everything there was a mock up. While the vehicle was not going to move, a demo mode with actual functionality would have been what I would expect from PI-4 for CES2025. Missing was the screens that showed power consumption of various devices/options within the vehicle and how that was going to impact range. Also missing was the state of charge/solar charging and discharge. Hopefully in a few months Aptera will have an actual UI that can be shared. A mock up is not real, just a concept of what might be developed.
It seems this writer guessed aright--the Aptera WAS NOT ready in time for the show, so its fake it time. Its worse, in fine, as they bragged last summer how far along and done they were with this part of the works.
Given CES introducing lots of new people to Aptera, it’s important for these videos to provide them with small details such as why the info system display frame looks thicker due to air vents built into the outer frame. Otherwise new viewers unfamiliar with this info may think the display is outdated tech.
All of the "buttons" are way too small to be reliably hit in a moving car unless you a able to fully focus on them, which a driver shouldn't do in a moving car. Any contact point on a screen should be twice the width of a finger, at least.
This is one of the reasons I prefer physical buttons. It would be smart to include a hidden usb port or something so that after market (or official in-house) accessories and physical "button modules" could be installed to control HVAC, media controls, and lights if desired by the user. It doesn't seem like they have cruise control or wipers via column stalks, which is crazy to me. I interact with those controls all the time while driving and needing to precisely touch a screen to do so seems like a horrible safety concern.
The size that the button appears on the screen and the area of the screen that responds to touch are two different things. The touch area is only limited by running into an adjacent button's area. I assume they are optimizing all of that.
@@netscrooge I would assume that too. But I still like physical buttons and knobs though! You can "feel around" for your control with even taking your eyes off the road.
@@josiahpaez4601 I agree, but I doubt they will ever go back. More likely they will use voice control to help us keep our eyes on the road ... that is, for those rare times the vehicle isn't driving itself.
As an example and given what we saw in the video, suppose you're bumping along a twisty road and you decide you need to lower the cabin temperature by one degree while you drive. How difficult is that task with your eyes focused on the road ahead using a touch screen slider, versus reaching over and turning a temperature knob one click?
That ring around the screen is not a bezel. It is the ventilation system. That is where your climate control comes from. The screen itself actually has a bezel of about 1 cm.
This writer is not alone, I hope, in noting that the 'perhaps screen' is a near carbon copy {EKKK! I dated myself!} to the Tesla screen system? Its a good choice
@@harriettanthony7352 They have gotten this far only because they have already raised over $135M, mostly from crowd funding. $60M to go to get production started. They are more than 2/3rds the way to production start! $60M sounds like a lot of money (it is) but then I think at it as less than $1200 for every reservation holder. (They now have about 52,000 reservation holders.) Not really so much then, is it?
@harriettanthony7352 The production steering wheel stalk was shown tilting up and down in at least one of the CES videos. It's real. (Not sure about telescoping.)
Yes. We talked about Android Auto and Apple Carplay, that section of the screen is where you'd see the map. I would expect you can make the map nearly full screen, because that's what Android Auto does on my Chevy Bolt
What an insane waste of space on the left. The left is the most important area so the driver doesn't have to reach far for controls and all it is is just a giant static image of user profile. Terrible. All main controls should be as close to the driver as possible.
Thank you for this & good idea doing it after the sun went down. A lot easier to see the screen.
Oh that looks sooo good!! Thank you for the close up detail, Jeff!
Congrats! Again one of the most detailed and clear videos on the UI out there!
I like how the icons are fairly large and clear. My old eyes need that.
Thank you Jeff. You seem to be the only one that thought of that. Appreciate you so much.
Like it better than I thought I would! I'm not usually a fan of doing everything from a screen.
Same, it's growing on me. But, I still don't know how I feel about the blinker indicators and fuel gauge being way over there. I assume the speedometer will also be over there which feels really wrong to me, I'll probably get used to it though.
I'm hoping for an option to put the speed as a HUD on the side view screens.
@@richardryley3660 I'm pretty sure the side view cameras are connected directly to the screens. Maybe they could have a HUD mounted on the back of the screen or on the top of the dash that projects onto the inside of the windshield. Don't know if that's in the works.
@@tims8603 That could be cool, if it's done right. Most of that dash is solar though, I don't know where you'd put the projector.
@@josiahpaez4601 There is a strip of padding on the front edge about 2 or 3 inches wide. I don't know if it would fit there. Maybe they could delete one of the cells. I'm just speculating.
Nice, looks and snappy so far
Great meeting you at CES Jeff! Great preview !
BTW the manual push button for PRND is directly below the screen.
Len
Thanks for the tease, Jeff (and Chris M). It looks really clean and easy to use. I like that there is so much readily accessible on one screen. I often get frustrated navigating through menu hierarchies (often ending up in the wrong place, having to back up, try again, rinse and repeat) to find what I'm looking for. If they pull this off, it looks like most, if not all, of that will be avoided.
Nice, good little infotainment system.
Awesome. Thanks for focusing solely on this.
Thanks for this video - I really wanted to get a glimpse at the UI.
bright and responsive. That's the most important foundation. The UI can be improved as long as the screen can support it. I'm delighted with what I've seen!
Good, good, easy peasy.
Thank you
You have the coolest intro. Thanks for the interview.
I’m pleased apple and android will be suppling the navigation from your phone. I’m hoping the apple auto will connect via Bluetooth.. I’ve had it both ways and it’s much easier to not have the phone be tethered.
I am not a techy, but I think it might be simple enough for an older guy to figure it out. Frankly screens in cars are a distraction, more so than a radio. Having no radio, (I am ok with that) forces one to interact with a screen, and defensive drivers concentrate 100% of the time on driving. So my opinion is any screen in any car is a negative.
I'm old, 76, and pride myself on my focus while driving, having almost 3 million miles of driving, I think screens are a negative, however that is what is occuring in the automotive industry.
So you don’t even like a speedometer? Just kidding agree 10000% that interaction should be minimal but unfortunately that’s not where we’re heading. Prefer tactile controls - physical buttons and dials/sliders, but understand the cost. In our digital age Aptera (& others) should enable voice control. In similar vein, my other concern, expressed to no avail, is the side window visual obstruction.
Hey Pop! this writer is just two years behind your Calander! And I can find no valid reason to find a screen distraction to a thinking driver. ANY car made has a 'screen' for the driver. It might be called a 'gauge cluster', a HUD, or the, to you, EVIL central screen. This writer is NO tech freak, but I took the effort to LEARN how the Tesla screen works in my Model 03 and WHY! A distraction, not for me. A help I would say it is
@@gr8dvd The side window issue. From those who drove Gamma, and from this writer having sat in Gamma, the side window is no big deal, just as oddly placed "A"" & "B" pillars are on ALL cars. The design is found on other cars, and its dictated by aero concerns and the fact the door will not allow a full window drop down. Your concern is answered
@ Thanks for repeating what I’ve heard/read from all the faithful but the most objective and honest review was a car enthusiast (sorry forget who) about 1.5y ago approaching a stop sign and saying, "Wow, didn’t expect that." He also remarked he still wants one for himself.
Jeff, thanks for the preview. It is unfortunate that PI-4 did not have it actually working and that everything there was a mock up. While the vehicle was not going to move, a demo mode with actual functionality would have been what I would expect from PI-4 for CES2025. Missing was the screens that showed power consumption of various devices/options within the vehicle and how that was going to impact range. Also missing was the state of charge/solar charging and discharge. Hopefully in a few months Aptera will have an actual UI that can be shared. A mock up is not real, just a concept of what might be developed.
It seems this writer guessed aright--the Aptera WAS NOT ready in time for the show, so its fake it time. Its worse, in fine, as they bragged last summer how far along and done they were with this part of the works.
Thanks for sharing!
To the "Ninj" thanks for the look see at the maybe/almost/could be Screen function. Now this IS useful
Cool. Yeah it better be snappy for $40k. Thanks!
Given CES introducing lots of new people to Aptera, it’s important for these videos to provide them with small details such as why the info system display frame looks thicker due to air vents built into the outer frame. Otherwise new viewers unfamiliar with this info may think the display is outdated tech.
All of the "buttons" are way too small to be reliably hit in a moving car unless you a able to fully focus on them, which a driver shouldn't do in a moving car.
Any contact point on a screen should be twice the width of a finger, at least.
This is one of the reasons I prefer physical buttons.
It would be smart to include a hidden usb port or something so that after market (or official in-house) accessories and physical "button modules" could be installed to control HVAC, media controls, and lights if desired by the user. It doesn't seem like they have cruise control or wipers via column stalks, which is crazy to me. I interact with those controls all the time while driving and needing to precisely touch a screen to do so seems like a horrible safety concern.
The size that the button appears on the screen and the area of the screen that responds to touch are two different things. The touch area is only limited by running into an adjacent button's area. I assume they are optimizing all of that.
@@netscrooge I would assume that too. But I still like physical buttons and knobs though! You can "feel around" for your control with even taking your eyes off the road.
@@josiahpaez4601 I agree, but I doubt they will ever go back. More likely they will use voice control to help us keep our eyes on the road ... that is, for those rare times the vehicle isn't driving itself.
As an example and given what we saw in the video, suppose you're bumping along a twisty road and you decide you need to lower the cabin temperature by one degree while you drive. How difficult is that task with your eyes focused on the road ahead using a touch screen slider, versus reaching over and turning a temperature knob one click?
i really wish they went with a more analog approach... but whatever...
Ditto
Cool monitor and ui but not the bezels. I hope they change.
That ring around the screen is not a bezel. It is the ventilation system. That is where your climate control comes from. The screen itself actually has a bezel of about 1 cm.
Yesssss! Android Auto and Carplay!
Is voice activation available?
This writer is not alone, I hope, in noting that the 'perhaps screen' is a near carbon copy {EKKK! I dated myself!} to the Tesla screen system? Its a good choice
Waiting 5 years....
Is it finally going to be produced?
IT will be produced if you write a valid cheque for, say, 100millions of USD! They have FAILED, always, to find real investors/cash
@@harriettanthony7352 They have gotten this far only because they have already raised over $135M, mostly from crowd funding. $60M to go to get production started. They are more than 2/3rds the way to production start! $60M sounds like a lot of money (it is) but then I think at it as less than $1200 for every reservation holder. (They now have about 52,000 reservation holders.) Not really so much then, is it?
Does the steering wheel tilt and telescope?
It is reputed to do these functions, on paper. In the real world, its an unknown
@harriettanthony7352 The production steering wheel stalk was shown tilting up and down in at least one of the CES videos. It's real. (Not sure about telescoping.)
Will a navigation/map presentation also appear on this display? If so, where and how big?
Yes. We talked about Android Auto and Apple Carplay, that section of the screen is where you'd see the map. I would expect you can make the map nearly full screen, because that's what Android Auto does on my Chevy Bolt
@@kimbowilco Thank you! 😁
My main issue is that my dominant eye is my left eye. A right hand screen is going to be problematic. Key data and controls need to be straight ahead.
May have to move to England?
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What an insane waste of space on the left. The left is the most important area so the driver doesn't have to reach far for controls and all it is is just a giant static image of user profile. Terrible. All main controls should be as close to the driver as possible.