I don't own a GC controller, and I'd probably be fine with mapping to the right analog stick(maybe), but the fact that the devs put a performance/quality mode switch and that degree of GC controller support is super respect-worthy, and I'm sold on the game.
I still have a Gamecube that I use regularly (I have a GC Video HDMI adapter and SD Media Launcher so I can do virtually anything with it). I also have 3 Gamecube controllers that are pretty much perfect condition. And I have 2 of the USB GC controller adapters (since I also use them with my computer at times).
I wanna see someone use the Nintendo labo steering wheel and pedal thing that you're able to build on this and that would be sick if the devs supported it as a makeshift racing cockpit
I feel people are sleeping on this game. It's basically going to be our version of Gran Turismo or Forza. Easily the best realistic racer on Switch. Thanks for bringing attention to it. Only issue I have is no physical copy.
@Robert Siegfried I think we're all aware that it's a last gen game. You're not breaking any news there. You do realize that GT and Forza were also on LAST GEN, right? All I'm saying is that this game is of that kind of quality and is far better than any racer on Switch thus far.
@Robert Siegfried I didn't mean that it's like GT and Forza due to being exclusive to Switch. I'm just saying it's a high quality game, even if it is last gen. It's just a well crafted game, and - sadly - the selection of realistic racers on Switch was pathetic to this point. So getting something that is akin to GTA 6 on PS3 is a huge upgrade. I can be happy about getting it while simultaneously being unhappy with our racing game selection (and 3rd party support in general).
Luis Rodriguez grid autosport is a great game but tbh, they keep milking this game in every console. I want to see a prequel on the grid series with more tracks and more cars😌
From what I remember, back before the GameCube launched, Nintendo claimed that the controller is the future and would be used by everyone for years to come. Well, they weren't exactly wrong.
It is wild how much life that controller has gone on to have in contrast to the relative obscurity of the console it was originally designed for. From the various wii games that supported it to official rereleases of it during the wiiu to The licensed powerA and Hori gcn style controllers for the switch to supporting the original in a game that isn’t smash again with this racing game. Not to mention various unlicensed “efforts”
Not the same. Same racing but this doesn't have a real career mode. This doesn't let you buy or choose cars. You don't earn money you pick from 2 sponser and get their car the only difference is the stickers for the sponser and color. It's shallow and sucks as the racing and graphics are good. So mad that they went with the drive club model instead of gt /forza.
help ok then everybody can play it! I’ll be playing it on my switch for the physical controllers and I don’t want my phone to die on the middle of the day for being playing this game on it lol
Career mode sucks. No cash. You choose sponser a or b and get car a or b. You don't raise up the ranks buying new cars. They start you out in fast cars. I like gt where you got a Ford focus or pinto or something like that and had to earn by doing low level races making loot and buying cars. This has no selection. Hell you can't put on Manual transmission without playing in hardest difficulty wtf...
That’s pretty cool that Grid Autosport has GameCube Controller support.. Not just a simple pro controller alternative, it’s actually fully supported.. So that’s really neat.. Personally, I don’t mind the digital triggers for most games, but the support of the GameCube’s analog triggers are very nice to have..
It's frustrating to see the most expensive controller for this generation (Switch Pro) be outclassed by a controller that cost $25 back in the early 2000s.
@@teehundeart yes the snes 30 pro+ is only $50 and has a good dpad, motion controlls, mapabke buttons using a PC, it supports switch, pc, Android. And it has a rechargeable but replaceable battery
@@teehundeart snes 30 pro+ from 8bitdo is soo damn good, and I recommend getting the GBros Adapter from 8bitdo, update it to the lastest firmware, and play Smash Ultimate with a Wired Original Gamecube Controller with Rumble Support
Apparently they've actually decided to delay the split screen mode. Won't be there on release day but it'll probably be pretty stable once they patch it in.
So why don't all devs who have released car/racing games on the SWITCH retroactively add this in. Allow everyone to use gamecube controllers. Solve the issue. Sorted. ??? PS... Good on these devs at Feral interactive for going all out here. Good Stuff. Excellent! ;) EDIT: Like SPAWN said.. Nintendo should probably release analogue trigger pro controllers and also joycon with analogue triggers. It is no different than releasing special peripherals for certain games or say companies that make special controllers for competitive gaming(thers ones for the PS4) and Microsoft with their ELITE Xbox controllers. Nintendo should work with the companies who make these racers and release a special joycon and pro controller bundled with the game as a SKU option. But also them still supporting the gamecube controller for those who want to go that route.
It's not that they didn't put analogue triggers in the pro controller, it's that they didn't put analogue controllers in the joy-cons. Those are the default configuration. The pro controller is just a more comfortable form factor for that setup. It sucks because Mario Kart is one of their biggest selling games and they didn't factor that in the ability to feather the brake and throttle into their design for the controllers.
@@NintenDub I know that. My point is that they didn't make a new feature set when making the Pro. They just took what was on the Joy Cons and put it into something more comfortable
They wouldn't add it cause of the joycons. Analog triggers would break pretty easily and would make the controller bigger, more expensive to manufacture, and less ergonomic than they already are for both double and single use. It made sense not to have analog triggers cause the console is portable. Plus the system doesn't have high demand for analog triggers either. makes no sense to pander to a niche community over having cheaper production. There are barely any games that are designed with analog triggers in mind. Name one handheld system that had analog triggers.
you have to look at it from nintendo's perspective. the joycon pair is the primary controller. to the greatest extent possible, they want the pro controller to have the same features and no more. the pro controller doesn't have analog triggers because the joycon don't have analog triggers. the joycon probably don't have analog triggers in order to keep the cost down; using two controllers instead of one requires twice as many of a lot of components. everything is driven by the joycon.
@@sirmoonslosthismind That is such a flawed logic. First of all, Pro controller is a premium level extension of Switch and that is reflected in the price. It is supposed to be better than the stock joycons that you get. It is even in the name, "Pro". It is supposed to have all the main features that just having Switch alone would not get you. Secondly, it costs pennies for Nintendo to produce a Pro Controller. It is not like they are struggling to keep it profitable. The overprice on that thing is enormous. Nintendo simply doesn't care, because they know people will buy it anyway and defend it on TH-cam.
Wait was that always an option in all GT games? I'm starting to think it might have been. Not a necessary option by any means as all DS2/3 controllers have analogue buttons (on all buttons, yes for real) and DS4 has analogue triggers.
@@I_was_a_Bullfrog I wouldn't say an evolution of the GCN design it's more a fusion of the classic controller pro button layout and the off set stick layout of the GCN
We could possibly have the new GRID for the switch in the future if code masters can make a realistic racing game work this well on the switch. Also WRC 8 has been confirmed to be coming to the switch in November. Nintendo should definitely make a switch controller with analog triggers
This is great it's just kind of a shame it took nearly two and a half years to finally get a game like this on the switch. The level of effort they put into this is so respectable.
I mentioned this over on social media but in what is the most bizarre finding of all this is that in the 23 years of 3D Nintendo consoles (since Nintendo 64), the same generation as the debut of Gran Turismo, there has NEVER been a realistic racing game on a Nintendo console. EVER! It’s truly sad it took this long for Nintendo or one of their partners to fill this void.
Right now there's a lot of games on sale in the eshop, but this video alone sold me this game. Is great to have a game that implements the Gamecube controller so well!
Ive been waiting for this game since the beginning of the year. I've been begging for a good simulation style racing game on the switch. Gear Club 1 & 2 were a huge disapointment. This game looks so good and the framerate is so smooth. Can't wait to buy it.
Amazing, this game is a great great thing to happen to the switch, im a massive racing sim fan, forza is my bag and its been a massive gripe for me not having a good racer on the switch, after playing Vralley4 on the switch i noticed the digital triggers being a pain on that, on off acceleration and braking isnt great, so this is a great shout!!!
I always suggested to map on right anolog stick when trigger anolog issue was brought up, and well they did. Really reminds me of those remote control cars in a way.
Dood, Feral deserves a medal for everything they're doing with this port. I absolutely love the fact that changing to the GC Controller changes the button icons on the menus :D
One first day, EA has called out Switch players for "switching" to other platforms to play their games, Few days later, EA, said they love the Switch and has plans for them. And a fewer days later EA stated NFS heat on Switch won't happen.
It's important to note all of this is while playing with an Automatic Transmission. As we all know, you can get around this issue by playing with the Manual Transmission selected.
This game looks really good the switch. I'm glad we've finally got a good racing game on the switch. I really like both grid games even though that game had so much potential to be a great racing game if was built from thunder ground up for the switch. I think grid had better level design though
This is THE racing sim that we have needed for the switch! Looks gorgeous and has a ton of options. Day one purchase for me! Also, as it was not mentioned in the video, they are planning on releasing a patch post release for multiplayer.
I was going to ask about the 8Bitdo Sn30 Pro + because it had analogue triggers but you answered it just as I thought of it. Good job covering other options
Sold! Day 1 Buy! been Waiting for a Gran Turismo/Forza'esk experience on Switch.. I've got gear Club one and it's okay.... But this looks a lot more refined(with effort & care) now i need a WaveBird🤔.....
Loving this and loving the fact they included support for analog triggers (at least for the GC controller). I think you were spot on though if they could support analog triggers on all controllers that connect to the Switch - that'd be the ideal scenario. I hope Nintendo will just release new joy-cons with analog triggers... that way we can have the sim-racing genre come to the Switch. It's silly that they excluded analog triggers altogether.
The Wii U almost had a proper sim racer with Project Cars but that game port was cancelled early on. This game though borders on arcade-sim then proper sim. Still great though.
I am soooo glad that I bought an official Gamecube controller of eBay. I even bought the version of Smash Bros with the Gamecube controller more for the Adaptor
Nintendo's next pro controller needs a toggle for digital and analog triggers, like a little switch on the back of the controller. I like digital triggers for shooters and Mario Maker and stuff, but analog for racers, etc.
I want a PHYSICAL COPY of GRID: AutoSport for the Nintendo Switch!!!! EDIT*-Gotta support developers who make an effort in getting ports and just games in general, RIGHT!
Thanks for this video! driving games with digital triggers are no buy to me, BUT with my PowerA Cube controller this game is suddenly wery interesting! i want to support this :)
I know the Pro Controller is not quite the correct controller for sim racing mostly because of feathering or braking, but it's worth mentioning that the Pro Controller uses the gyroscope so you can use motion control for precise steering, not to mention using the C-stick for partial throttling/braking, even if it's an unpopular opinion. Of course you can also adjust the sensitivity and linear options of the GameCube, but I'm more of an motion control driver than directional-stick driver.
It'd be great if there were a bundle with the game, a Gamecube adapter and a tuned Gamecube controller. That'd be a sight to behold, maybe through something like Limited Run so they don't get large cost takings. Still, I do think Nintendo should update the Switch Pro Controller to hold analogue triggers. But first they have to get the dpad done right.
Didn't even realise this game was on the Switch! Been craving for a sim-like racer after having to move away from PC gaming to Switch. I'm just blown away by how good this looks! Can't wait to pick it up when it's on sale
That’s really cool that they took the time to put that in. However, I play mostly in handheld. How would you rate the experience using just the digital joycon triggers? Would you still recommend the game?
I own this game on PC, but I think because of this exact support for the Gamecube controller for the analog triggers (something both Gear Club games should have shipped with on Switch), I may pick this up again. Also, having quality and performance modes as well as a battery saver mode goes that much further to producing a quality Switch port.
One thing 8BitDo could do is allow for the triggers to act as an analog stick axis. You could set ZR as the right stick Y axis up and ZL as Y axis down
I LOVE using the right stick for gas/break for its analog input. I’ve been doing this since way back with Need For Speed started using this as a control setting. Feels more realistic to me at least.
I’ll definitely buy this if it comes out as a physical release. I’m probably the only one, but I don’t mind using the right analog stick for gas and brake. It’s actually how I used to play racing games on the Xbox. Nice video btw.
Grab the all new 8bitdo pro 2 controller over the 8bitdo pro+ controller for you can have different profiles on the pro 2 controller. So make full use of those profiles. Profile 1 can have its default mappings then when you wanna play grid autosport Make use of another profile and map the analog triggers to the right stick so you can make use of the analog acceleration and braking. Hope this helps
as a racing sim player I prefer the analogue stick gas and the shoulders as the manual shift up and down. it feels like paddles shifter on racing steering wheels.. this was missing on the Switch for sure, a good console racin sim need 3 things, analoge gas, steering sensitivity setting and hood or interior view options..
Looking great! And nice to see a decent rendition of the classic Spa Francochamps circuit in Belgium.... home of one the best Formula 1 races every year.... fabulous track, and looks good in the game too. Interesting to see that the old GC controller has analog inputs on the Switch.... makes you wonder why the Joycons and Pro-Controller don't; if the Switch can actually see analog input from the triggers after all........
Will it work with the 8-bitDo SN 30 Pro+? That has analog triggers and everyone raves about how good it is for the price... Well I got my answer towards the end... Feral Interactive, if you read this, make it work with the 3rd party analog switch controllers and I'll buy this game IMMEDIATELY.
it's almost certainly impossible for feral to do what you and spawnwave are asking. the nintendo switch has drivers for three kinds of controllers -- joycon, pro controllers, and gamecube controllers. if your third-party peripheral claims to be a pro controller, it's going to act like a pro controller. if it claims to be a gamecube controller, it's going to act like a gamecube controller. if it claims to be something else, the console will reject it and the game will never see it.
I think for supporting the analog triggers on the 8BitDo controller you're talking about, they'll have to chat with them (8BitDo) directly. From what I've seen, the controller doesn't send anything more than a ON/OFF to the host and it'll probably need some work on the firmware (maybe it'll show up as a GameCube controller to the console?) for changing the trigger's behaviour internally.
Good news so far. Feral Interactive Really should add a analog option to the pro controller configuration. It would allow us to use a usb steering wheel set up. and when they release the online multiplayer update that would give the most solid racing experience on the switch!
1:25. "What did FERAL INTERACTIVE…" Yeah, I wouldn't expect less from them. They added back controller support to Bioshock 2 for Mac. The Windows version was purposely made incompatible with controllers, whereas Feral's port for Mac included support for dozens of controllers
Bioshock is a shooter. Why on god's green Earth would anyone want to faff with a stupid controller when there's an infinitely superior option - the mouse - available as a primary HID on the platform? Dafuq is wrong with people... Good riddance, I say.
PIXELFLUX. First, OPTIONS are always good, no matter what your small brain thinks. If you want to play with a mouse, NO ONE is forcing you to use a controller. Second, a controller is quite comfortable for couch gaming in your living room or in bed, as opposed to gaming while sitting in front of a desk. Third, you can use a modern controller with a gyro like those of the PS4 and Switch and use it with motion aiming, which is as good as a mouse if not better, but that depends on who is playing
I'm afraid there's no way the game could be able to just "figure out" whether the player's controller has shoulder buttons that travel. The only way would be to let the game know the controller ID (or hardware ID) and cross that information with a database fed by the developer in order to enable progressive throttling. What that means is that every single controller has to go through Feral's testing, which will update the game as more controllers are added in on the list. Yeah it sucks, but that's the only way to go around the Switch controller's shoulder button limitations.
it's very unlikely that nintendo gives developers that level of access anyway. this is between the controller and the driver. the nintendo switch has three drivers, for joycon, pro controllers, and gamecube controllers. if your third-party controller claims to be a pro controller, it's going to act like a pro controller, including digital triggers.
I thought that Nintendo only wanted native GCN support for special occasions like Smash and Mario Sunshine, but if some third party game has native support then I have no idea why there are barely any Switch games have Native support. Like for example, Luigi's Mansion 3 uses ZL and clicking in the Right Stick, which are a available on the GCN Controller
Honeslty Nintendo could just release a gamecube style pro controller with analog triggers. They perfected the design way back then it never needed to be changed
This is great! I will be buying this game and I guess I gotta get a game cube controller too. Yes, if they can add analog for other controls like the PS4, XBox, 8Bitdo, that would be awesome!
Wow. The cars aren't floating over the road XD Also, If I use my 8bitdo adapter to use my ps4 controller on this, would the Triggers act like analogue?
all that's left is a good multiplayer fps. Also whilst i understand the advantage of analog shoulder buttons for racing games, i prefer digital shoulder buttons for about every other game genre.
the MotoGP19 Devs shoud think of this control options right now..playing MotoGP19 Portable with Trigger for Brake and Throttle on the go? that's gonna be DOPE!
Which game cube controller are you using? Can you put a link to buy it? I didn’t understand if I can use a Xbox or Ps controller for get same analogic triggers like you use in this video...
Well, it's not like they were going to remove the analogue throttle, this is just a port of a 2014 game. They just figured some people would be using the GC controller to take advantage of it.
The analogue trigger issue could be solved with a similar implementation GT 6 used with the face buttons, the x button actually has degrees of sensitivity when pressed for accelerating
Sometimes I play more sim car games on the keyboard, just to go old school. Or even on old controllers with no analogue triggers, like the saturn one, and if you go fully manual gears you'll have a lot of fun and you'll get control over the throttle. Having said that, is it so weird for a game on switch to support analogue triggers? I mean, just because the main controllers do not have analogue triggers, doesn't mean that the Switch in itself doesn't support that kind of input, as the support for gamecube triggers clearly shows.
I don't own a GC controller, and I'd probably be fine with mapping to the right analog stick(maybe), but the fact that the devs put a performance/quality mode switch and that degree of GC controller support is super respect-worthy, and I'm sold on the game.
battery saver too on handheld mode
I still have a Gamecube that I use regularly (I have a GC Video HDMI adapter and SD Media Launcher so I can do virtually anything with it). I also have 3 Gamecube controllers that are pretty much perfect condition. And I have 2 of the USB GC controller adapters (since I also use them with my computer at times).
The analog stick is literally 16 times more precise than the analog triggers anyways so you're better off
Feral and Panic Button are devs we need but don't deserve.
Those guys are totally prepared for a next gen switch.
A77 cores + 512CC touring?
Imma use my joy cons to get the best drift experience
Joycon Drift could act as some kind of artificial force feedback lol
Nice one man. It'll be some sort of hardware-based challenge mode for the game
Hahah good one!!
Lol I approve
I wanna see someone use the Nintendo labo steering wheel and pedal thing that you're able to build on this and that would be sick if the devs supported it as a makeshift racing cockpit
Another great thing about this port is that it has a battery-saver mode for handheld mode.
I feel people are sleeping on this game. It's basically going to be our version of Gran Turismo or Forza. Easily the best realistic racer on Switch. Thanks for bringing attention to it. Only issue I have is no physical copy.
Exactly and imagine if they patch in online play with voice chat the drifting tandems would be epic
@Robert Siegfried I think we're all aware that it's a last gen game. You're not breaking any news there. You do realize that GT and Forza were also on LAST GEN, right? All I'm saying is that this game is of that kind of quality and is far better than any racer on Switch thus far.
@Robert Siegfried I didn't mean that it's like GT and Forza due to being exclusive to Switch. I'm just saying it's a high quality game, even if it is last gen. It's just a well crafted game, and - sadly - the selection of realistic racers on Switch was pathetic to this point. So getting something that is akin to GTA 6 on PS3 is a huge upgrade. I can be happy about getting it while simultaneously being unhappy with our racing game selection (and 3rd party support in general).
Wait so there’s no online racing for this game? I’ll pass 😂😂
@@KennyFromthaA there will be splitscreen and online multiplayer to be added later via a free update
Finally a solid racing game on the switch my wavebird has been ready
But without an online mode. 😢
@@DrTrash maybe a patch lol🤞
@@DrTrash Online will be in an update. Do some research.
Luis Rodriguez grid autosport is a great game but tbh, they keep milking this game in every console. I want to see a prequel on the grid series with more tracks and more cars😌
I completely disagree about "milking the game in every console". The last one was released in 2014 (which is this one).
From what I remember, back before the GameCube launched, Nintendo claimed that the controller is the future and would be used by everyone for years to come.
Well, they weren't exactly wrong.
Wii U is future adapter.
GC controller is the legend of the legendary legend yet nintendo kinda miss it wii onwards...
It is wild how much life that controller has gone on to have in contrast to the relative obscurity of the console it was originally designed for. From the various wii games that supported it to official rereleases of it during the wiiu to The licensed powerA and Hori gcn style controllers for the switch to supporting the original in a game that isn’t smash again with this racing game. Not to mention various unlicensed “efforts”
Yea cuz it's perfect
@@alistair4909 , some of those efforts were good ones...MadCatz, anyone?
Im buying this in part to support the extra attention to detail for this port.
This game completely flew under my radar until I seen these features thanks guys!
I've seen the performance mode tested and it ranges from about 50 to 59 fps , very well done port. The difference in graphics is minimal.
the crowd says otherwise lol
@@TonyJennthey turn into mannequins
I've had Grid for years on my PC. Switch owners that have never played it are in for a real treat. It's an awesome racing game.
Not the same. Same racing but this doesn't have a real career mode. This doesn't let you buy or choose cars. You don't earn money you pick from 2 sponser and get their car the only difference is the stickers for the sponser and color. It's shallow and sucks as the racing and graphics are good. So mad that they went with the drive club model instead of gt /forza.
Alright, let's hire them to remake F-Zero GX now
Good work Grid Autosport. Proof that when developers want to, they can port over anything to the Switch.
@@henry3136YT The mobile version was heavily downgraded with frame rate issues, sooo
@@John6-40 No it wasn't lmao the mobile version was universally praised, this is a port of the mobile version too.
help ok then everybody can play it! I’ll be playing it on my switch for the physical controllers and I don’t want my phone to die on the middle of the day for being playing this game on it lol
@@John6-40
Have you seen the iOS version?
Something tells me you really haven't. Here's a hint. The Switch and iPhone X version 1.2.4 look the same!
@@bolosantosi8527 I would be very happy even with a San Andreas port, tbh...
I think i might actually get this game. Seems like it's by far the best racing simulator on Switch so far
teehundeart it probably is, the fact that you can invite people and race em is really cool imo. There should be a prequel on this series
@jesus barrera i'm ok with that. I'd play Gran Turismo if I wanted the hardcore racing experience.
This will be more of a casual game for me
...also when you consider the fact that it's only a $35 game and not a full priced $60 for a racing game its seems worth it to me
Career mode sucks. No cash. You choose sponser a or b and get car a or b. You don't raise up the ranks buying new cars. They start you out in fast cars. I like gt where you got a Ford focus or pinto or something like that and had to earn by doing low level races making loot and buying cars. This has no selection. Hell you can't put on Manual transmission without playing in hardest difficulty wtf...
That’s pretty cool that Grid Autosport has GameCube Controller support..
Not just a simple pro controller alternative, it’s actually fully supported..
So that’s really neat..
Personally, I don’t mind the digital triggers for most games, but the support of the GameCube’s analog triggers are very nice to have..
It's frustrating to see the most expensive controller for this generation (Switch Pro) be outclassed by a controller that cost $25 back in the early 2000s.
2 joy cons are even more expensive
I just ordered a Switch and i think i'm not gonna buy a pro controller. Are there any good third party controllers for a good price?
@@teehundeart yes the snes 30 pro+ is only $50 and has a good dpad, motion controlls, mapabke buttons using a PC, it supports switch, pc, Android. And it has a rechargeable but replaceable battery
@@teehundeart you can buy a wireless switch gamecube controller or you could always buy the the smash gamecube controllers
@@teehundeart snes 30 pro+ from 8bitdo is soo damn good, and I recommend getting the GBros Adapter from 8bitdo, update it to the lastest firmware, and play Smash Ultimate with a Wired Original Gamecube Controller with Rumble Support
GameCube controller: still one of the best controllers around in 2019
Not for everything. But yeah it's lit
Xbox one elite controller
Yeah I own 4x for my GameCube Xbox 360’s is a great copy to.
I do hope, if you do go ahead with a full review, you test out the split screen. I remember it looking very rough during the showcase in the Direct.
Apparently they've actually decided to delay the split screen mode. Won't be there on release day but it'll probably be pretty stable once they patch it in.
Not interested in split screen. Don't test it out.
@@afistfulofpimples1745 I disagree, especially for local play
I DON'T CARE !!!!!!
@@afistfulofpimples1745 what's your problem man?
Getting this day 1 to support the devs. They went above and beyond with this port.
So why don't all devs who have released car/racing games on the SWITCH retroactively add this in. Allow everyone to use gamecube controllers. Solve the issue. Sorted. ???
PS... Good on these devs at Feral interactive for going all out here. Good Stuff. Excellent! ;)
EDIT: Like SPAWN said.. Nintendo should probably release analogue trigger pro controllers and also joycon with analogue triggers. It is no different than releasing special peripherals for certain games or say companies that make special controllers for competitive gaming(thers ones for the PS4) and Microsoft with their ELITE Xbox controllers.
Nintendo should work with the companies who make these racers and release a special joycon and pro controller bundled with the game as a SKU option. But also them still supporting the gamecube controller for those who want to go that route.
So the wave bird and gamecube controllers are the real pro controllers? I cant believe nintendo couldnt put analogue triggers in the pro controller.
It's not that they didn't put analogue triggers in the pro controller, it's that they didn't put analogue controllers in the joy-cons. Those are the default configuration. The pro controller is just a more comfortable form factor for that setup. It sucks because Mario Kart is one of their biggest selling games and they didn't factor that in the ability to feather the brake and throttle into their design for the controllers.
@@NintenDub I know that. My point is that they didn't make a new feature set when making the Pro. They just took what was on the Joy Cons and put it into something more comfortable
They wouldn't add it cause of the joycons. Analog triggers would break pretty easily and would make the controller bigger, more expensive to manufacture, and less ergonomic than they already are for both double and single use. It made sense not to have analog triggers cause the console is portable. Plus the system doesn't have high demand for analog triggers either. makes no sense to pander to a niche community over having cheaper production. There are barely any games that are designed with analog triggers in mind. Name one handheld system that had analog triggers.
@@goodie2shoes874 yeah but Xbox controllers are the same price and have analogue triggers
@Kuuhazan main reason is it being handled. Why can't you people read
I mean, it's no Forza / Gran Turismo. But at least the Switch finally got a good racing game.
Agreed its not just a shitty port of a shitty game. Grid is well known and also great port for a great price
.....naah burnout would be an amazing racing game for the switch. Those sim games friggin suck.
Exactly
Fizzy's Note [Dika] tbh, grid needs a prequel with more cars and more tracks
Still waiting for Asphalt on switch
It boggles my mind that Nintendo didn’t give the pro controller analog triggers. It doesn’t make much sense.
Like lots of other things about switch
you have to look at it from nintendo's perspective. the joycon pair is the primary controller. to the greatest extent possible, they want the pro controller to have the same features and no more. the pro controller doesn't have analog triggers because the joycon don't have analog triggers. the joycon probably don't have analog triggers in order to keep the cost down; using two controllers instead of one requires twice as many of a lot of components. everything is driven by the joycon.
@@sirmoonslosthismind That is such a flawed logic. First of all, Pro controller is a premium level extension of Switch and that is reflected in the price. It is supposed to be better than the stock joycons that you get. It is even in the name, "Pro". It is supposed to have all the main features that just having Switch alone would not get you. Secondly, it costs pennies for Nintendo to produce a Pro Controller. It is not like they are struggling to keep it profitable. The overprice on that thing is enormous. Nintendo simply doesn't care, because they know people will buy it anyway and defend it on TH-cam.
@@renovatiovr If you read your comment, YOU ARE THE ONE DEFENDING THE PRO CONTROLLER... lol
@@JPWarrant I am clearly not
Solid port, props to the devs
1:23 "Who wants to do that?"
Gran Turismo: Am I a joke to you?
In all seriousness, I prefer the right analog stick
Really. I don't see the problem. It takes like five minutes to get used to.
Wait was that always an option in all GT games? I'm starting to think it might have been. Not a necessary option by any means as all DS2/3 controllers have analogue buttons (on all buttons, yes for real) and DS4 has analogue triggers.
The GameCube controller needs to come back as Nintendo’s official controller.
There's support for it on switch no need to ditch the pro controller which the majority prefers
Jovanny Diaz Abad To each his own.
The Switch pro controller is basically an evolution of it's design (minus the pressure triggers)
@@I_was_a_Bullfrog I wouldn't say an evolution of the GCN design it's more a fusion of the classic controller pro button layout and the off set stick layout of the GCN
without 8ways-analog stick
was thinking about getting this game... sees Honda NSX being in the game and my entire world just changed
We could possibly have the new GRID for the switch in the future if code masters can make a realistic racing game work this well on the switch. Also WRC 8 has been confirmed to be coming to the switch in November. Nintendo should definitely make a switch controller with analog triggers
This is great it's just kind of a shame it took nearly two and a half years to finally get a game like this on the switch. The level of effort they put into this is so respectable.
I mentioned this over on social media but in what is the most bizarre finding of all this is that in the 23 years of 3D Nintendo consoles (since Nintendo 64), the same generation as the debut of Gran Turismo, there has NEVER been a realistic racing game on a Nintendo console. EVER! It’s truly sad it took this long for Nintendo or one of their partners to fill this void.
It really is nuts that this is the case. I'm definitely paying attention to Grid.
need for speed most wanted u
Unknown that is an arcade-style racing game, not a racing sim. Nintendo platforms have had many arcade-style racing games, but no racing simulators.
Project Cars was gonna be on Wii U
ShadowOfNexxus hahaha true! Man this is crazy!
Right now there's a lot of games on sale in the eshop, but this video alone sold me this game.
Is great to have a game that implements the Gamecube controller so well!
Ive been waiting for this game since the beginning of the year. I've been begging for a good simulation style racing game on the switch. Gear Club 1 & 2 were a huge disapointment. This game looks so good and the framerate is so smooth. Can't wait to buy it.
Amazing, this game is a great great thing to happen to the switch, im a massive racing sim fan, forza is my bag and its been a massive gripe for me not having a good racer on the switch,
after playing Vralley4 on the switch i noticed the digital triggers being a pain on that, on off acceleration and braking isnt great, so this is a great shout!!!
Glad you mentioned third party controls. I use my Xbox one controller with an 8bitdo adapter. Hope they enable analog triggers in an update
I always suggested to map on right anolog stick when trigger anolog issue was brought up, and well they did. Really reminds me of those remote control cars in a way.
Dood, Feral deserves a medal for everything they're doing with this port.
I absolutely love the fact that changing to the GC Controller changes the button icons on the menus :D
Let’s hope NFS Heat get’s onto the Switch eventually
Yesss
Doubt that EA isnt interested in the switch for some reason
One first day, EA has called out Switch players for "switching" to other platforms to play their games,
Few days later, EA, said they love the Switch and has plans for them.
And a fewer days later EA stated NFS heat on Switch won't happen.
Highly unlikely, EA doesn't seem to care about the Switch aside from trying to cash in with FIFA ports
It's important to note all of this is while playing with an Automatic Transmission. As we all know, you can get around this issue by playing with the Manual Transmission selected.
How? I still need analog controls to trail brake, no amount of downshifting can help with that
This game looks really good the switch. I'm glad we've finally got a good racing game on the switch. I really like both grid games even though that game had so much potential to be a great racing game if was built from thunder ground up for the switch. I think grid had better level design though
This is THE racing sim that we have needed for the switch! Looks gorgeous and has a ton of options. Day one purchase for me!
Also, as it was not mentioned in the video, they are planning on releasing a patch post release for multiplayer.
Oh and I do hope that they can add support for the 8-bitdo sn30 pro+. My #1 controller for both my switch and PS4.
I was going to ask about the 8Bitdo Sn30 Pro + because it had analogue triggers but you answered it just as I thought of it. Good job covering other options
Now i am even more excited for Autosport on Switch, I didn't think it was possible but here we are, I am OVER hyped.
Sold! Day 1 Buy! been Waiting for a Gran Turismo/Forza'esk experience on Switch.. I've got gear Club one and it's okay.... But this looks a lot more refined(with effort & care) now i need a WaveBird🤔.....
Loving this and loving the fact they included support for analog triggers (at least for the GC controller). I think you were spot on though if they could support analog triggers on all controllers that connect to the Switch - that'd be the ideal scenario. I hope Nintendo will just release new joy-cons with analog triggers... that way we can have the sim-racing genre come to the Switch. It's silly that they excluded analog triggers altogether.
Each to their own, but I love using the right analog stick as my break/throttle. For me that's been the norm since gran turismo 1
Brake. Not break.
Brake.
Heh... doing a SPA-wnwave in Belgium...
Nice.
The Wii U almost had a proper sim racer with Project Cars but that game port was cancelled early on. This game though borders on arcade-sim then proper sim. Still great though.
I am soooo glad that I bought an official Gamecube controller of eBay. I even bought the version of Smash Bros with the Gamecube controller more for the Adaptor
Looking forward to some more racing games on the switch maybe n4s, burnout, juiced and i can dream forza horizon
There will be more racing games on switch. The question is if they will port it with care or just do a crappy port?
Same I would like them to bring back flat out 1&2 or or maybe wreckfest but it's too demanding graphically
Perfect opportunity to bring nfs most wanted or underground 1 & 2 over to the switch
Can you review WRC 8 when it comes out on the switch? I hope that will be another good racing sim to play
Is that coming? I haven't heard anything.
Nvm I googled it. Awesome! Not sure how I missed that one.
Nintendad Gaming I was surprised they didn’t show it in the Nintendo direct for September
@@ayberyMusic it will come out in november, im so excited about that already 😀
@@szymonz.8448 actually in October
This was already solved with Trials Rising using GC controller for analog throttle
Nintendo's next pro controller needs a toggle for digital and analog triggers, like a little switch on the back of the controller. I like digital triggers for shooters and Mario Maker and stuff, but analog for racers, etc.
I want a PHYSICAL COPY of GRID: AutoSport for the Nintendo Switch!!!!
EDIT*-Gotta support developers who make an effort in getting ports and just games in general, RIGHT!
It always baffled me, how Nintendo could release a controller, without analog triggers, but with “pro” in its name.
Pro, for 'Prolapse'
Patent issues...
I got this game yesterday and I have never played a racing game like it. I love it!
I wonder if analog triggers will work with the DualShock/Xbox controller using an 8BitDo adapter
Good question. I have one of those.
Good question. I have one of those.
Thanks for this video! driving games with digital triggers are no buy to me, BUT with my PowerA Cube controller this game is suddenly wery interesting! i want to support this :)
I know the Pro Controller is not quite the correct controller for sim racing mostly because of feathering or braking, but it's worth mentioning that the Pro Controller uses the gyroscope so you can use motion control for precise steering, not to mention using the C-stick for partial throttling/braking, even if it's an unpopular opinion. Of course you can also adjust the sensitivity and linear options of the GameCube, but I'm more of an motion control driver than directional-stick driver.
It'd be great if there were a bundle with the game, a Gamecube adapter and a tuned Gamecube controller. That'd be a sight to behold, maybe through something like Limited Run so they don't get large cost takings.
Still, I do think Nintendo should update the Switch Pro Controller to hold analogue triggers. But first they have to get the dpad done right.
Didn't even realise this game was on the Switch! Been craving for a sim-like racer after having to move away from PC gaming to Switch. I'm just blown away by how good this looks! Can't wait to pick it up when it's on sale
That’s really cool that they took the time to put that in. However, I play mostly in handheld. How would you rate the experience using just the digital joycon triggers? Would you still recommend the game?
I own this game on PC, but I think because of this exact support for the Gamecube controller for the analog triggers (something both Gear Club games should have shipped with on Switch), I may pick this up again. Also, having quality and performance modes as well as a battery saver mode goes that much further to producing a quality Switch port.
One thing 8BitDo could do is allow for the triggers to act as an analog stick axis. You could set ZR as the right stick Y axis up and ZL as Y axis down
Will the analog trigger functionality work with the 8Bitdo Sn30 Pro+?
ps2 days i used to map my accelerate and breaking to the right analog stick, no issues personally doing that
It actually looks very good for a Switch game. I'm definitely getting this game as Gear Club didn't do it for me.
I LOVE using the right stick for gas/break for its analog input. I’ve been doing this since way back with Need For Speed started using this as a control setting. Feels more realistic to me at least.
That GameCube controller is going to live forever!
I’ll definitely buy this if it comes out as a physical release. I’m probably the only one, but I don’t mind using the right analog stick for gas and brake. It’s actually how I used to play racing games on the Xbox. Nice video btw.
Grab the all new 8bitdo pro 2 controller over the 8bitdo pro+ controller for you can have different profiles on the pro 2 controller. So make full use of those profiles.
Profile 1 can have its default mappings then when you wanna play grid autosport
Make use of another profile and map the analog triggers to the right stick so you can make use of the analog acceleration and braking.
Hope this helps
So why not map the throttle to one of the two analogue sticks and use the other as the steering stick?
Woah almost bought the game before watching this, didn't even know about the pro controller's triggers not being able to handle this...
as a racing sim player I prefer the analogue stick gas and the shoulders as the manual shift up and down. it feels like paddles shifter on racing steering wheels.. this was missing on the Switch for sure, a good console racin sim need 3 things, analoge gas, steering sensitivity setting and hood or interior view options..
Looking great! And nice to see a decent rendition of the classic Spa Francochamps circuit in Belgium.... home of one the best Formula 1 races every year.... fabulous track, and looks good in the game too. Interesting to see that the old GC controller has analog inputs on the Switch.... makes you wonder why the Joycons and Pro-Controller don't; if the Switch can actually see analog input from the triggers after all........
You mean I FINALLY have a racing game I can get into that controls like Burnout 1&2?!! Nice!
Will it work with the 8-bitDo SN 30 Pro+? That has analog triggers and everyone raves about how good it is for the price... Well I got my answer towards the end... Feral Interactive, if you read this, make it work with the 3rd party analog switch controllers and I'll buy this game IMMEDIATELY.
its alright, nowhere near as good as an actual gamecube controller but i guess its always good to have cheap controller options
it's almost certainly impossible for feral to do what you and spawnwave are asking. the nintendo switch has drivers for three kinds of controllers -- joycon, pro controllers, and gamecube controllers. if your third-party peripheral claims to be a pro controller, it's going to act like a pro controller. if it claims to be a gamecube controller, it's going to act like a gamecube controller. if it claims to be something else, the console will reject it and the game will never see it.
I've got the 8Bitdo Nintendo Switch USB dongle for PS4 controllers, will the dualshock 4 analog triggers work?
I think for supporting the analog triggers on the 8BitDo controller you're talking about, they'll have to chat with them (8BitDo) directly. From what I've seen, the controller doesn't send anything more than a ON/OFF to the host and it'll probably need some work on the firmware (maybe it'll show up as a GameCube controller to the console?) for changing the trigger's behaviour internally.
Good news so far. Feral Interactive Really should add a analog option to the pro controller configuration. It would allow us to use a usb steering wheel set up. and when they release the online multiplayer update that would give the most solid racing experience on the switch!
Great video SpawnWave!
Never really been a fan of Grid on PC, but boy am I glad to see them on the switch. Its been a pain to own it without a realistic racing game.
That gamecube support is amazing. Wish it were present on more titles!
1:25. "What did FERAL INTERACTIVE…"
Yeah, I wouldn't expect less from them. They added back controller support to Bioshock 2 for Mac. The Windows version was purposely made incompatible with controllers, whereas Feral's port for Mac included support for dozens of controllers
Bioshock is a shooter. Why on god's green Earth would anyone want to faff with a stupid controller when there's an infinitely superior option - the mouse - available as a primary HID on the platform?
Dafuq is wrong with people... Good riddance, I say.
PIXELFLUX. First, OPTIONS are always good, no matter what your small brain thinks. If you want to play with a mouse, NO ONE is forcing you to use a controller.
Second, a controller is quite comfortable for couch gaming in your living room or in bed, as opposed to gaming while sitting in front of a desk.
Third, you can use a modern controller with a gyro like those of the PS4 and Switch and use it with motion aiming, which is as good as a mouse if not better, but that depends on who is playing
I'm afraid there's no way the game could be able to just "figure out" whether the player's controller has shoulder buttons that travel. The only way would be to let the game know the controller ID (or hardware ID) and cross that information with a database fed by the developer in order to enable progressive throttling.
What that means is that every single controller has to go through Feral's testing, which will update the game as more controllers are added in on the list. Yeah it sucks, but that's the only way to go around the Switch controller's shoulder button limitations.
it's very unlikely that nintendo gives developers that level of access anyway. this is between the controller and the driver. the nintendo switch has three drivers, for joycon, pro controllers, and gamecube controllers. if your third-party controller claims to be a pro controller, it's going to act like a pro controller, including digital triggers.
Bought it full price and my expectations were definitely met and exceeded.
I thought that Nintendo only wanted native GCN support for special occasions like Smash and Mario Sunshine, but if some third party game has native support then I have no idea why there are barely any Switch games have Native support. Like for example, Luigi's Mansion 3 uses ZL and clicking in the Right Stick, which are a available on the GCN Controller
Can you play splitscreen for example when your friend is here
Honeslty Nintendo could just release a gamecube style pro controller with analog triggers. They perfected the design way back then it never needed to be changed
I've been looking forward to this game for months, pretty nice to see it's a really well done port!
Can you not use the right analog to accelerate/brake? That's what I used back in the PS2 days.
This is great! I will be buying this game and I guess I gotta get a game cube controller too. Yes, if they can add analog for other controls like the PS4, XBox, 8Bitdo, that would be awesome!
Wow. The cars aren't floating over the road XD
Also, If I use my 8bitdo adapter to use my ps4 controller on this, would the Triggers act like analogue?
I will guess no since it doesnt work on Trails Fusion
all that's left is a good multiplayer fps. Also whilst i understand the advantage of analog shoulder buttons for racing games, i prefer digital shoulder buttons for about every other game genre.
the MotoGP19 Devs shoud think of this control options right now..playing MotoGP19 Portable with Trigger for Brake and Throttle on the go? that's gonna be DOPE!
Which game cube controller are you using? Can you put a link to buy it? I didn’t understand if I can use a Xbox or Ps controller for get same analogic triggers like you use in this video...
Well, it's not like they were going to remove the analogue throttle, this is just a port of a 2014 game. They just figured some people would be using the GC controller to take advantage of it.
I've always used the right stick for throttle and brake control since Gran Turismo. I'm just used to it and use the triggers for shifting gears
Where do you get the GameCube controllers for a good price? There are so many knockoffs it’s difficult to know which have analog sensitive controls.
Thanks, man! PS4 controller user here! I got my Switch a week ago and I need more games on it. I only have Xenoblade Chronicles 2. Grid looks great!
The analogue trigger issue could be solved with a similar implementation GT 6 used with the face buttons, the x button actually has degrees of sensitivity when pressed for accelerating
does any console have that feature anymore? last one that had it was thw ps2 iirc.
Sometimes I play more sim car games on the keyboard, just to go old school. Or even on old controllers with no analogue triggers, like the saturn one, and if you go fully manual gears you'll have a lot of fun and you'll get control over the throttle.
Having said that, is it so weird for a game on switch to support analogue triggers? I mean, just because the main controllers do not have analogue triggers, doesn't mean that the Switch in itself doesn't support that kind of input, as the support for gamecube triggers clearly shows.