My brother and I, aswell as 2 of our friends, recently got back into MESBG. Now all 4 of us are hooked and meet up for beers and huge 4-way battles once a month. I really enjoy the comradery and the social aspect of it, anytime you can lose and still have a great time and feel like there's things you can take away from the game and learn from - you're on a good thing.
I bought a Mumak because I just wanted to paint one, now I find myself owner of the Pelennor Fields box and the box set of Eowyn and Merry. I'll figure out list-building some other time. I liked this video. It's nice to know a GW starter set has two solid armies in it.
I played this other day and omg best tabletop out there in my mind. So balanced and even a good build can loose. Rarely do i see meta gaming unlike in 40k and AoS. I also find the community better
would be super cool if You'd be able to create guides where to start collecting different armies not to be disappointed. Personally im into Angmar, but every faction would be interesting ;)
Hey Jacob, not sure if this is a dumb question but can warriors of Erebor take both shields and spears at the same time? I know there's an upgrade available in their stat block but there doesn't seem to be any model not holding a spear in two hands in this kit. Keep up the great content and thanks for all the advice!
I have the original Fellowship of the Ring kit. Several friends and I played in high school and custom painted everything from goblins to the Balrog. Now, we're all getting ready to teach our sons for a 2nd generation of strategists! My 9y.o. is hooked (on simple rules, just goblins vs. elves for now)! Great video, thanks for the info
To be honest. If I want to try play Middle Earth SBG, now after almost 20 years since I started with Warhammer and having a bit of a falling out the recent 10 years: I would definitly utilize the miniatures from North Star from their Oathmark Line! I'm getting so much 'Ralph Bakshi's Lord of the Rings'-vibes from their Goblin miniatures! Love 'em!
Another tip is to pick a starter army that doesn’t involve to many colours. The first set i bought was Thorin’s company and it was not the best idea. I was only able to paint them by borrowing my friend’s paints.
I recently discovered your channel and I am really loving your content. I was wondering if you will ever do a video on Battle Companies? I think its a fantastic skirmish game and a perfect way to start collecting an MESBG army. Do you have much experience with it? any "tier list"" for certain battle companies (I hear some consistent opinions, but I would like to hear what you consider to be properties of a good/bad battle company)?
I decided to start this also. I aquired some Serpent Horde Commanders, a box of Haradrim Warriors and just because I loved the model, a Mumak of Harad. I was always fascinated by Haradrim.
anything with that much armour can be primed with a metalic primer so you need less coats. and uruks are dirty muddy boys so make heavy use of brown washes and shades, lighten the skin with an orangeish brown and the leather with a tan colour. maybe even dry brush the raised edges with silver to make them look sharper.
I played age of sigmar a few years ago but I forgot everything. I would like to make a new start in middle earth. I am in love with the movies but I don´t know how to build an army, what does it need to consist of? Can i pick caracters from different kindes? I realy liked the Mordor figures but i also really like the figuers out of the halls of Thranduil. But can I put Gandalf with elfs? How does it work? and wich army do you think is the best for a beginner in middle earth?
I am an Age of Sigmar player but i was wondering if i could start playing middle earth too without spending a big amount of money. Do u suggest to start with this box (not only for the convenient price but also for updated rules), maybe sharing it with a friend? Are the minis in the box good for building up competitive armies later? I do not know how it works for Middle earth, but in AoS it can happen that a specific army is not so competitive or a big additional investment is required :)
Hey mate, I talk about this in the video. I absolutely recomend the Pellanor fields box set. It is a very solid start, both the good army and the evil army can be very competitive with very little added to them I talk exactly about what I recomend adding in the video
The supplements comes in 2 versions. 1 is with scenarios and so on, the 2. Containing only new profiles and legendary legions (the later is free downloadable from gw)
Me and my friend want to start him being good, me evil. I was thinking Rhun but they don't have many models. Can you mix up factions? Could I for example, spash in some Harad or Umbar?
Great video! I like building terrain and dioramas, and my and my kids love LOTR...I'm a total newbie on Strategy games but would like to start...what two armies (good & evil) would you recommend I get so that i can start playing with my children? I guess i will be the bad ones.....thanks !
So I know one of the biggest draws of this game, is the heroes we know and love. But are there generic heroes? For example; generic elf captain, generic orc captain, etc...
Yep every faction has regular captain's and a few other generic heroes such as a king of men to represent any of the king's of Gondor, or orc shamans who buff surrounding orcs
I want to start a moria army and I bought the Balrog and I would like to play it in a 500 hundred army points. What else should I buy to complete my army ?
I would definitely recomend the Battle of Osgiliath. It gives you two great starting armies that you can build on, as well as a decent amount of terrain. All you need to do is add a couple more heroes and you have two full armies
@@ConquestCreations It would be awesome if they do. Although the biggest barrier seems to be that-GW don't sell MESBG minis 😅 after being convinced to try it out thanks to great content creators like yourself, I learned that GW don't even list the (new) faction I'm interested in.
At the moment the new edition is about to come out so absolutely avoid all the books for now. You can use websites such as Tabletop Admiral to get all the rules
Play Mordor and just keep track of your wraith to model ratio. As you find things that perform better, adjust the numbers accordingly until your army matches your playstyle and luck averages.
I've just got into ME SBG and have a question which I hope someone will see. Does fight value come into play any time other than a drawn duel roll? I can't see any other reference to it in the rules but given the emphasis people seem to put on it I feel like I must be missing something?
No, but fight value is still very important. When having two heroes going against each other, you are possibly rolling 2-4 dice, so getting a six is very likely. If that doesn’t come up, it’s very common that people will spend might to increase that roll to a six. So if you don’t have the fight value, then loosing a fight is more of an issue. Does that make sense?
@@adrianneumann5867 that makes sense thank you. I've just started playing so I suppose I just haven't come across situations where fight values importance is obvious. I've only had a couple of games so far and they've been quite simple so I can get used to the rules so haven't had any hero v hero battles like in your example. One of the scenarios I played all the units had the same FV as well so draws went straight to 50:50 roll offs which made FV seem a bit pointless but I'll keep an eye on it as I play more and games get a a bit more detailed.
@@davidwallin4515 yeah good idea! Just getting more and more familiar with the game as well as watching other people will help you with becoming a better player. Do you have the pelennor fields box? What factions are you interested in, I’m happy to give an tips.
@@adrianneumann5867 Yes I got the Pelennor box set to start off with. There's some scenarios included in that that start simple and get more complex at introduce more rules. Just basic battling to start with but have started adding special rules like terror and heros. Faction wise I'm having trouble trimming my interest down 😂 with so many big and iconic battles in the core story I want to recreate them all at some point (not I quick process getting that many models I know!). I suppose I'm being overly enthusiastic as a new player and huge fan of the core books. Any suggestions, tips, tricks or anything you can share will be gratefully received though!
@@davidwallin4515 I had that same exact problem when I started, I was so eager and excited to play out all the cool battles from both the books and the movies, do you have discord? This would be make this conversation much easier.
PL Polska, funpage na FaceBook: facebook.com/groups/722602234484334/ "Zasady Middle-earth SBG" For all polish players, link and name of our FB funpage above ;)
My brother and I, aswell as 2 of our friends, recently got back into MESBG. Now all 4 of us are hooked and meet up for beers and huge 4-way battles once a month. I really enjoy the comradery and the social aspect of it, anytime you can lose and still have a great time and feel like there's things you can take away from the game and learn from - you're on a good thing.
I've been secretly getting my friends more and more into in for big games like this
Its the best GW game witht the fewest players. Once people get into it/get past some of the lame models they are hooked.
@@joshuaginn792 Titanicus is better imho, but they're both great :)
Thanks for being straight with us. Nice to see you tell newbies exactly what they need.
I got "The three huntrs" pack and painted it immediately! I want MOOOOORE!
I bought a Mumak because I just wanted to paint one, now I find myself owner of the Pelennor Fields box and the box set of Eowyn and Merry. I'll figure out list-building some other time. I liked this video. It's nice to know a GW starter set has two solid armies in it.
I played this other day and omg best tabletop out there in my mind. So balanced and even a good build can loose. Rarely do i see meta gaming unlike in 40k and AoS. I also find the community better
If you are a beginner and have any question post them in the comments and I'll get back to you!
would be super cool if You'd be able to create guides where to start collecting different armies not to be disappointed. Personally im into Angmar, but every faction would be interesting ;)
Hey Jacob, not sure if this is a dumb question but can warriors of Erebor take both shields and spears at the same time? I know there's an upgrade available in their stat block but there doesn't seem to be any model not holding a spear in two hands in this kit. Keep up the great content and thanks for all the advice!
@@CuttingRoomLore Yep they can take them both at once!
@@CuttingRoomLore Yep totally fine to take spear and shield together
I have the original Fellowship of the Ring kit. Several friends and I played in high school and custom painted everything from goblins to the Balrog.
Now, we're all getting ready to teach our sons for a 2nd generation of strategists! My 9y.o. is hooked (on simple rules, just goblins vs. elves for now)!
Great video, thanks for the info
Well if this isn't a well timed video. I just watched the faction video while procrastinating doing actual work, subscribed, and now this!
To be honest. If I want to try play Middle Earth SBG, now after almost 20 years since I started with Warhammer and having a bit of a falling out the recent 10 years: I would definitly utilize the miniatures from North Star from their Oathmark Line! I'm getting so much 'Ralph Bakshi's Lord of the Rings'-vibes from their Goblin miniatures! Love 'em!
Another tip is to pick a starter army that doesn’t involve to many colours. The first set i bought was Thorin’s company and it was not the best idea. I was only able to paint them by borrowing my friend’s paints.
God I got into this game when it originally launched. I must've been.... 8? Glad it got a bit of a bit of a revival a few years ago.
I recently discovered your channel and I am really loving your content. I was wondering if you will ever do a video on Battle Companies? I think its a fantastic skirmish game and a perfect way to start collecting an MESBG army. Do you have much experience with it? any "tier list"" for certain battle companies (I hear some consistent opinions, but I would like to hear what you consider to be properties of a good/bad battle company)?
Zorpazorp Gaming has great Battle Companies BR.
I decided to start this also. I aquired some Serpent Horde Commanders, a box of Haradrim Warriors and just because I loved the model, a Mumak of Harad. I was always fascinated by Haradrim.
Currently working my way towards completing an Isengard army, but God damn, if I am not super tempted to also build a smaller Army of Thror, too!
Great video! What do you use for your army lists in ME-SBG?I can't find any blank roster sheets, so I guess most people are using an app?
Thanks for the comment. I exclusively use pen and paper. Some people use battle scribe but I think its a lot more hassle than it is worth
Thanks so much for this video. For a brand new player like myself these videos are super helpful! 👍
I just bought a large used Isengard army on ebay, I can't wait to get started! Any tips for batch painting Urukhai?
anything with that much armour can be primed with a metalic primer so you need less coats. and uruks are dirty muddy boys so make heavy use of brown washes and shades, lighten the skin with an orangeish brown and the leather with a tan colour. maybe even dry brush the raised edges with silver to make them look sharper.
I played age of sigmar a few years ago but I forgot everything. I would like to make a new start in middle earth. I am in love with the movies but I don´t know how to build an army, what does it need to consist of? Can i pick caracters from different kindes? I realy liked the Mordor figures but i also really like the figuers out of the halls of Thranduil. But can I put Gandalf with elfs? How does it work? and wich army do you think is the best for a beginner in middle earth?
I am an Age of Sigmar player but i was wondering if i could start playing middle earth too without spending a big amount of money. Do u suggest to start with this box (not only for the convenient price but also for updated rules), maybe sharing it with a friend? Are the minis in the box good for building up competitive armies later?
I do not know how it works for Middle earth, but in AoS it can happen that a specific army is not so competitive or a big additional investment is required :)
Hey mate, I talk about this in the video. I absolutely recomend the Pellanor fields box set. It is a very solid start, both the good army and the evil army can be very competitive with very little added to them I talk exactly about what I recomend adding in the video
The supplements comes in 2 versions. 1 is with scenarios and so on, the 2. Containing only new profiles and legendary legions (the later is free downloadable from gw)
Great video really enjoyed it. I’ve subscribed 👍
Fantastic timing, I just started shilling LOTR SBG to my mates
RIP Easterling Commanders
i’m really tempted to get this game
Me and my friend want to start him being good, me evil. I was thinking Rhun but they don't have many models. Can you mix up factions? Could I for example, spash in some Harad or Umbar?
Great video! I like building terrain and dioramas, and my and my kids love LOTR...I'm a total newbie on Strategy games but would like to start...what two armies (good & evil) would you recommend I get so that i can start playing with my children? I guess i will be the bad ones.....thanks !
Battle of pelennor fields or if wanted hobbit could do thorin and company and that white ork
I played a lotr miniture game like 15 years ago, would this be the same one ? I do remember it being in a gamesworkshop
Yes, this is just the updated version. It’s the same game at its core.
Love these videos! Keep going guys!
So I know one of the biggest draws of this game, is the heroes we know and love. But are there generic heroes? For example; generic elf captain, generic orc captain, etc...
Yep every faction has regular captain's and a few other generic heroes such as a king of men to represent any of the king's of Gondor, or orc shamans who buff surrounding orcs
when you buy the miniatures from games workshop, are the figures already painted??? thanks...
nope. You have to paint all the miniatures yourself
@@benni3754 that sucks.....hard to find time to play, let alone try to paint in detail something so small....
I want to start a moria army and I bought the Balrog and I would like to play it in a 500 hundred army points. What else should I buy to complete my army ?
Definitely plenty of goblins! Groblog and a cave troll are also a great addition
@@ConquestCreations Ok Thanks
Trying to decide between Moria and the Dark powers of Dul Guldur.
Would you recommend the battle of pelennor starter kit or the new battle of osgiliath coming out?
I would definitely recomend the Battle of Osgiliath. It gives you two great starting armies that you can build on, as well as a decent amount of terrain. All you need to do is add a couple more heroes and you have two full armies
Do people ever proxy some models with the old Eaglemoss minis? I still have a big heap of those collectibles from way back when.
Lots of people proxy with models from all over, you just want to make sure you have the right scale
@@ConquestCreations It would be awesome if they do.
Although the biggest barrier seems to be that-GW don't sell MESBG minis 😅 after being convinced to try it out thanks to great content creators like yourself, I learned that GW don't even list the (new) faction I'm interested in.
Played the original version of this game I wonder how much the rules have changed in the new editions
They are very very similar with a few add ons such as more heroic action but at their core its very much the exact same
Wow great video man, subbing
I'm confused about the books. Aside buying the models I must get the book as well to know what the models do and how to use them?
At the moment the new edition is about to come out so absolutely avoid all the books for now. You can use websites such as Tabletop Admiral to get all the rules
I want to start an army with basically as many black numenoreans and morgue knights as possible... and ring wraiths. How would you do this ?
Play Mordor and just keep track of your wraith to model ratio. As you find things that perform better, adjust the numbers accordingly until your army matches your playstyle and luck averages.
Thank you!
Thank you for the content
I just keep buying more and more models like now I have 6 trolls and 2 troll chieftains
Have an army of trolls lol
I've just got into ME SBG and have a question which I hope someone will see. Does fight value come into play any time other than a drawn duel roll? I can't see any other reference to it in the rules but given the emphasis people seem to put on it I feel like I must be missing something?
No, but fight value is still very important. When having two heroes going against each other, you are possibly rolling 2-4 dice, so getting a six is very likely. If that doesn’t come up, it’s very common that people will spend might to increase that roll to a six. So if you don’t have the fight value, then loosing a fight is more of an issue. Does that make sense?
@@adrianneumann5867 that makes sense thank you. I've just started playing so I suppose I just haven't come across situations where fight values importance is obvious. I've only had a couple of games so far and they've been quite simple so I can get used to the rules so haven't had any hero v hero battles like in your example. One of the scenarios I played all the units had the same FV as well so draws went straight to 50:50 roll offs which made FV seem a bit pointless but I'll keep an eye on it as I play more and games get a a bit more detailed.
@@davidwallin4515 yeah good idea! Just getting more and more familiar with the game as well as watching other people will help you with becoming a better player. Do you have the pelennor fields box? What factions are you interested in, I’m happy to give an tips.
@@adrianneumann5867 Yes I got the Pelennor box set to start off with. There's some scenarios included in that that start simple and get more complex at introduce more rules. Just basic battling to start with but have started adding special rules like terror and heros. Faction wise I'm having trouble trimming my interest down 😂 with so many big and iconic battles in the core story I want to recreate them all at some point (not I quick process getting that many models I know!). I suppose I'm being overly enthusiastic as a new player and huge fan of the core books. Any suggestions, tips, tricks or anything you can share will be gratefully received though!
@@davidwallin4515 I had that same exact problem when I started, I was so eager and excited to play out all the cool battles from both the books and the movies, do you have discord? This would be make this conversation much easier.
PL Polska, funpage na FaceBook:
facebook.com/groups/722602234484334/
"Zasady Middle-earth SBG"
For all polish players, link and name of our FB funpage above ;)
Are there any co-op rules for this?
Not specifically but its works really well in co-op if you are playing scenarios
And I have a ton of Isengaurd
Where to start in MESBG, easy, any Lord of the Rings army........no The Hobbit Armies lol
Just got 10 trolls , what next?