I've been riding Conti Super Sport IIIs since they came out. Daily commute, around 13,000km a year. I find them very puncture resistant. They just feel great on the road, and right from the beginning they felt fast. Your test confirms why. Don't worry about flats, they're just great tires for the price!
Every group ride I've been on where someone got a flat they were riding Super Sports. Had a set myself once and I have to agree w you on their road feel. They do feel fast. Every flat I got on them was from an impossibly small bit of glass or rock and I got tired of it.
@@uglyoldfart839 This, conti's grandsport race is actually better, and they don't even cost that much more. Even better TPI casing at 3x180 and a puncture protection thread. I use them with tire liners for extra protection, I have never gotten a flat in over a year of riding, at 5000 km. And that's with TPU tubes.
I am riding the Ultra Sport for about 3000km now. And had no puncture yet. Would not worry too much. I am only a recreational driver though. But pretty happy with the tyre and think it rides very good. BTW, the "e" in Schwalbe is not silent ;) It is pronounced like the "e" in "pet".
I have Conti UltraSport II on my commuter, love them to bits, comfy, fast rolling, good grip and after 4,500 miles about 50% worn and so far zero punctures despite my commute being country lanes with Hawthorne hedges and across a university campus with frequent broken bottles.
I have these too, on different bikes and in different sizes. They are very nice for their price. But they are definitely not as fast as GP4000 or 5000. They cope great with gravel, at least at the front, for the rear wheel on my everyday singlespeed I use Sport Contact II (latest model called Contact Speed).
I use the "obsolete" Vitorria Rubino Pro III. The last version before the newer ones with graphene. When tested, they have lower rolling resistance and still the same puncture protection as the later ones. 150TPI tire. Still sold online. Highly recommended
@@cappaculla If a video title says "use one of these tires" it should also tell me how big or small the difference to the more expensive things are that are usually recommended.
I'd like to see these compared to top-end tires like the conti GP5000 etc. Curious how they stack up, and how much more (or not) performance you get for a much higher price
great point. on my (still expensive Specialized Roubaix) with butyl tubes vs a similar wheelset (it does seem a bit faster no matter the tire though) vs. continental gps 5000... my personal experience is i get about an extra 1 to 1.5 km per hour. i am heavy and slow. average speeds for me are in the 22 to 25 km/hour range. Yes i am considering same route and weather conditions. No power meter data though. Moreover, the FEEL and sound and perceived rolling resistance of the Continental BLOWS AWAY the specialized Roubaix. The only drawback was the first set i had were damned near impossible to put on. Had to resort to water and soap trick to seat the beading. 2nd time mounting was ok. I just got a new continental gps 5000 tire to replace the rear (nearly worn out, and had a puncture... likely due to incorrect high inflation and a sharp rock. Note: with laytex tubes they do leak overnight so you need to pump them up a bit each day. IN MY OPINION, a great tire like the continental (or i hear, but have not used, Vittoria) combined with laytex tubes makes a far more enjoyable, speedy, grippy, and "feel the road" in a positive way. use a cheaper set like he recommends for early season / winter / or day to day stuff. I just have one carbon road bike with two wheel sets. lots of people have two or more road bikes though. for clunking to the tennis court or something short i have a KONA hybrid with big tires. hope this helps, please let me know. ps. the tires go on sale online fairly often for 40-45 % discount.
Why would you skimp on tires? It's literally the most cost effective purchase you can make it you want to go faster. Gp5000's or a similar tire in the same class + latex or tubeless and you're saving a good amount of watts. Save money on everything else!
If you want an ultra sport with puncture resistance get the grand sport race. Same compound, similar price. I've been using it for awhile now and my only flat was a pinch flat from accidentally smashing my wheel against a rock.
Adding this, I use it on my gravel bike (on gravel lol) as it comes in 32c and it got less punctures than my gravelking ss despite having more mileage.
Maxxis Persuer...I've been hugely impressed by the quality and price of this tire!It's fast, has a great road feel and it holds up very well. impressive... I paid £ 12 here in Taiwan. Brilliant cheap tire.
THANKS to your recommendation l got the Schwalbe Lugano II for my race bike and THEY ARE GREAT SO FAR getting up to 20+mph on these is easy compared to what l had before DAY NIGHT DIFFERENCE !! l ll update on how it goes as l put some miles on them :)
It may seem ironic, but I'll take all this on board, as I load my Mr Tuffy tyre liners and quality tubes (continental, shwalbe, specialized) into whichever tyre I'm replacing. I've never seen tyre liner rolling resistance quantified, but puncture avoidance is always a priority. You can always cover a lot of distance on any tyre, in the time you might otherwise be dealing with a puncture. Quality tubes? A high number of flats have come from tube failure - pinholes opening up on the seam, unrelated to any puncture or abrasion.
I ride Vittoria Rubino G2.0 with tan sidewalls. I am on my second pair and have had zero punctures so far. I have recently upgraded from butyl to latex Inner tubes and this has genuinely improved the performance still further. Love the tyres and the tubes. Only downside is latex tubes don't hold air the same so one needs to pump tyres before every ride, but this is a small price to pay imo.
Great original content video! Just a note on the Conti Ultrasports 3, Continental's tpi numbers are always over exaggerated and misleading compared with other brands as they are 3 layers of 60tpi (=180). Don't be fooled!
@@JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe it depends on the advertiser, some switched on sellers like BikeBug here in Australia list the Conti Competition tubular as 3/180 TPI which is effectively 3 layers of 60 TPI
The Michelin dynamic sport was horrible IME. Crappy feel like was mentioned, but worse is that I got punctures nearly every other ride for about a week until I finally gave up. And this was on my front wheel where I can normally get away with thinner tires (I run back tires out fairly quickly) and were on my regular routes so it wasn't like I was in worse roads than normal. Just glad it was cheap.
Thanks for the scientific testing. Very helpfully and quantitative results. That’s what I love about CW compared to gcn and others. Keep this great content coming..your tubeless sealant testing was a very informative video also. Thanks CW
conti ultra sports are better than most tires of double the price. they feel supple w the high thread count and the huge central siphons on the tread makes them deflect a lot on descents giving a lot of grip and confidence.
I've been using the Lifeline Prime Armour 700x25c tire for 2 years now and it usually lasts for 5 to 8,000 kms. It really does perform phenomenally especially for it's price which is sold here for only 12$. The tire provides good grip when cornering and through wet road conditions. It also has kevlar protection which saved me from stapler, broken glass, and even nail punctures. Although, admittedly it rolls considerably slower compared to my old tire which is a continental grand sport race.
I've been riding the "zaffiro pro g2.0" on my commuter throughout the seasons and I've had zero punctures or any issues of that kind. But the ride is not super supple and I don't think the grip is that great great in corners or wet conditions. I have the conti ultrasport on my road bike and definitely love the feeling on them, grippy and fast. no punctures either but I tend to ride the bike in good conditions only.
I got the Specialized Roadsport Elite 28c tyres at a discount. Before that it was the Michelin Dynamic Sports. They are each other's opposite: the Roadsport is heavy, and slow, but confident, comfortable, and saves inner tubes.
I love tests like this. I have the Conti Ultrasport and I think they have very good puncture protection. But then I drove the Tufo Calibra Lite before that and compared to those every tyre has good puncture protection. They were extremely fast though and weigh only 150g. 😆 Anyways excellent video. You've got a new subscriber. 👍🏽
Nice comparison video, but you need to know two things, wider tire dont add contact patch, is the same. And lower presure in a wider tire )more volume) dont add comfort, the tire drop is the same.
Michelin lithions and the pro4 are imo great tyres for the money. on my fast bike I have tufo very light clinchers with pu tubes. I don't punctures probably as I run high pressure and I tend to replace tyres before they get too worn out
i switched to some more ofroad tires on my bicycle with the idea of abit better drivability on some short patches of gravel , it did not help with the gravel ridint as much but extra thread on tire sure to help protect inner tube from geting punctured. i bought continental tires for like 50 euros for both
That was a great review but the choice of tires was slim with Lifeline taking up the bulk of the tires tested. The best tires to buy for around $20 is to find higher-end tires that are on a closeout sale. Recently I bought 2 pairs of Vittoria Open Pave CG III for just $20 each. The cool thing about those Vitts is that they are the most comfortable tire I have ever ridden since I stopped using tubulars over 35 years ago. So just keep your eyes open for closeouts, and buy a much better tire than those tested here.
Interesting video. I ran the Vittoria Zaffiros after a pot hole trashed my Hutchinson Fusions and the Zafs never missed a beat over 2500 winter kms and at £14 per tyre they were great value and rode well too. How about a similar video on lower priced tubless ready tyres?
I was gonna lose my mind if the examples of "budget tires" here are more expensive than my racing tire (Continental Grandsport RACE, best racing tire I've tried btw), but I'm relieved to see the budget tires are actually in the reasonable range. During the first 3 months of 2022, I've bought Ultrasport IIIs 3 times once per month. I ride fairly smooth roads and there's a big gaping slash on the sidewall of my tire after about 1000km. I ride 90 psi, 48kg and avoid potholes at all cost, it's just continental being stingy and making a bad tire at their budget range. I've experienced/witnessed no such problem in the Grandsport Race, GP 4 season, Gran Prix, GP4000II, and the GP5000.
@@SangNguyen-ew5hp You like never get a flat for months, then when the tires start getting worn understandably you start getting punctures every 5 km lol. If I were to describe it it's like immortal but with a limit.
@@SangNguyen-ew5hp still grand sport race, it works really well for the first 5 months so I just replace the back tire aftern6 months or roughly 8000km. It's like the puncture protection lining wears away with the tire as you use it
@@dan_lazaro impressive, I only ride roughly 5000km/year, I think the grand sport race is more suitable than the duraskin which is 4 times more expensive
Interesting. The next step is to compare the winning tyre(s) with higher end tires. Those trees along with TPU tubes may be well worth the small investment.
Another great tyre in my opinion is the Spesh Roubaix Pro. I'm running the 2bliss version which sizes up around 33mm on my 17s. Pretty quick, great in the wet and respectable on light fire trails. Highly recommend! ✌️
I ride the Continentals, Michelins, and Zaffiro. All ride well for me. One noteable BIG difference is that the Zaffiro DRY ROT on the sideways within 1-1.5 years. I have ridden 3 generations of this tire, and the first two generations both dry rotted quickly. Generation 3 i have not had on the bike long enough to decide. My Zaffiro dry rotted before the tires were worn out. very inexpensive tires that ride well, but in my experience, do not last. check your sidewalls if you ride them for cracking. in defense of the Zaffiro, they are by far the least expensive tire to ride and cost half as much as the goodyears in this video. The michelins are cheap to buy also. Conti 3 have gone up in price recently. I preferred the Ultra sport gen 2 tire over the gen 3 tire. had a better feel to me.
Useful you’ve gone for 25c tyres for these budget choices. My 10 year old rim brake bike (with mudguards for all year round riding), is limited to this size. Always gone with gatorskin hardshells, which are bullet proof, but a bit pricey and heavy. I’m tempted by the Lugano 2’s, especially for the summer. I’ve a,so got a cheap hybrid which came with budget Schwalbe tyres with the k-guard lining in them, and I’ve (maybe luckilly) only suffered 1 puncture with them, so I do rate k-guard as bing very decent for the price. .
I had a pair of Michelin Dynamic Classic tires with tan sidewalls and they worked pretty well for me. I would've liked to see how they stood next to these or even the other Michelin tires.
I ride the Jack Brown Mile Munchers from Planet X for both my road and commuter bikes - over 10,000km with no punctures! At £20 per tyre I wouldn't go anything else. They seem fast rolling as well, but it would be great to see it in a test like this one
I run Goodyear eagle sports at the moment and I like them a lot. I have run Conti Ultra sports before and I do rate them highly, but after approximately 1000 km or so I began to get punctures , so I think they may ride nicer than Goodyears but at a cost of longevity. I may be a bit mad but I did notice that the Goodyears after a short period of ride time began to feel faster than when new??? This is something that is often not considered when testing rolling Resistance.
Should have included the conti grandsport race, a few dollars higher than the ultra sport but has puncture protection and faster with better grip, even in the wet. A budget racing tyres that you can daily drive
Useful and interesting, despite the combined blinking and hand waving. None of the tyres are fantastic. Perhaps the top four could be compared with others in the next price bracket.
I’ve ridden several sets of the Vittoria zaffiro tires. The only negative downfall I have against these is the tread life does not last. I get about 600 to 700 miles and the tread has worn smooth and I have to replace them.
I would go for the Goodyears, Michelin or Vittoria. Those Continentals are not worth bothering about if they have no puncture protection. Even Continentals with PP puncture every 10 miles and with only 1 watt saving over the Goodyears, it's not worth it.
Been riding ultra sport and zaffiro and I can say just the best. Even do US "doesn't have that much puncture protection" I've never, ever had puncture. Not even my friends after 7000km on them. Only dissadvantage is weight.
I used the lugano 2 and they were the worst tires I've ever used, sluggish and flat all the time, even a cheap kenda was better. The best cheap tires I've used are the continental ultra sport 2 and 3, good traction, comfortable, fast and never got any flat with them
I had a set of Luganos, and they got flats from looking at them. When I started using them for daily commute, I got 3 punctures in 2 weeks. The worst tyres I've ever had in terms of puncture resistance. Got myself a set of Marathons instead, I couldn't be happier.
Tried the Lugano 2 and one tire was ok but the other developed a big bubble and was basically trash. Ended up getting a set of the conti ultra sports and never had a puncture.
Personally tires should be a priority for safety, ride and puncture protection so like with cars don't skimp on them they are the only thing that has contact with road so winter tire 4 seasons Cont or. Bontrager R3 or Michelin Power Endurance and summer Cont 5000 GP ! Want more puncture resistance go bigger tire run lower pressure like summer+28mm and winter 3#mm+. Since going up 3 years ago not had a puncture with tubes!😁
Like to see test of the same tire by the same manufacturer, but different sizes..and same manufacturer different say road tires, by cost. It was enlightening to see the response of tire to different road surfaces. Thank you!
I ride around 2500 miles anually and use whatever is cheapest in Decathlon. I cannot tell any difference in any of them. Currently on Zaffs they were less than 20 quid a pair or I would not have bought them.
Could be better test configured so energy input at the axial into the wheel and tire driving a dyno drum watt meter connected to an electronic load. This way we can tell input power versus output power to deduce tire efficiency and tire dissipation.
@@ArteUltra1195 What would you rather see - a test of all the best premium tyres OR a test with some GP5000's set up with normal tubes, lightweight butyl tubes, tubolitos, latex tubes and tubeless?
Hello, Thank you for doing these tests and posting the results which are very interesting and helpful. What is the margin of error on the measurements? The fact that you give power levels to two decimal places implies that the power measurements are accurate to the order of ± 10 mW. Did you repeat the measurements, maybe with other samples of the same tyres, to get an estimate of the spread in the results?
I hate to ask, but why didn't you throw one or two a higher-end tires on the machine for use as a control? I understand the importance of comparing them to one another, but I'd also love to see in concrete terms how this crop of budget tires hold up against (for example) a GP5000 S or a Vittoria Corsa G2.0. I think it would lend more context to exactly what kind of value you're getting from the tires in this roundup.
I use the Continental Ultra Sport that you tested. They were such an upgrade when I first switched last autumn, but a spring and summer of riding has seen them worn out. I have punctured twice in the last month, simply because the rubber has been worn. I would recommend them though
Wanna share that here in mexico a brand named HUNTER sells the most durable of 700x28 tires and guess how much? $5.00 us dollars, yep a bit heavy but come on at that price and supper durable!!!
The best upgrade you can do for a bike: have a bmi of 20.5-21.9, lighter wheels, latex tube, and better tires. Every bike comes with cheap, crappy mountain tires that could be adding 20-30 extra watts of force into your commute.
Excellent video. My tires are not cheap. I use specialized roubaix 700x25 with butyl tubes on one wheelset. On my “fast” wheelset ( honestly i don’ know why but giant sl2 seem faster than shimano ultegra.. both very old models) i use continental gps 5000 700x 25 with vittoria laytex tubes. The ride and feelof the continental blows away the sspecialized. Over three ( not winter) years i have one puncture. On the continental. I think i out the tire pressure too high…should get a digital gauge…i just go by feel/sound all my life). I hit a sharp rock. Despite cleaning out the tire and wheel with a cloth the spare immediately punctured too. Fortunately near a highway turnoff. Had to walk about 30 minutes then called a cab. Now i carry Two tubes! Sometimes i even bring a spare tire. For me a patch kit is useless as i need a bucket of water to find a small hole. So definitely puncture resistance is a worthwhile feature…depending on how much road debris on where you ride. My first thousand km i use my slow set of wheels then i switch to my continental set… i just LOVE the ride feel. Ps i just bought a set for 45 percent off online sale…so that is an awesome savings
Would love to see where you find the Goodyears for $20. Walmart (your link from 7 days ago!) shows $45 and Amazon $33. At that price I'm probably better off with top of the line tires on sale somewhere on the interwebs, right?
You should have tested the Continental Grandsport, which are cheap, provide a great ride and puncture protection. Why test 3 Lifeline tyres? Not an interesting or popular brand...
I'm using the same Continental Ultrasports for 3yrs now since 2021 and never once got a puncture. I had more than 2000miles on them and is still fitted on my training bike (outdoor) up to this day. I also use GP5000 on my race bike and the difference between them is like night and day.
AGREED!! Maybe if I was racing SERIOUSLY, and wanted a BIG difference in feel between a 'race' set of wheels/tires and a training set, to get that 'race psyche' type advantage with the faster stuff on the starting line. But then again, all of this low TPI, dead feeling, even worse yet with a butyl inner tube (EVEN the lightest 'race' ones!), lesser tires would be perceived as such a horrid ride to me that I would be DIS-incentivized to even train for said races in the first place! But, given that I am not currently racing, I want the ride to be the absolute BEST it can be (in response, suppleness, speed, etc.) every time I throw my leg over my metal framed (titanium) machine. 😉
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It may be an average, since the weight on the front wheel is less than the one on the rear wheel. Otherwise 80 KG are only realistic with very light weight riders
I've got these on at the minute they are durable but I find them a bit wooden feeling especially when braking downhill or cornering swapping them out for rubino pro IV see if I get on better.
I've been riding Conti Super Sport IIIs since they came out. Daily commute, around 13,000km a year. I find them very puncture resistant. They just feel great on the road, and right from the beginning they felt fast. Your test confirms why. Don't worry about flats, they're just great tires for the price!
wow 13,000 km a year!!! roughly 35 km a day year round.... bravo
Every group ride I've been on where someone got a flat they were riding Super Sports. Had a set myself once and I have to agree w you on their road feel. They do feel fast. Every flat I got on them was from an impossibly small bit of glass or rock and I got tired of it.
I had 5 punctures on ultra sports iii on 3 rides. Both tires are damaged and replaced now. I am back on peace of mind.
@@uglyoldfart839 This, conti's grandsport race is actually better, and they don't even cost that much more. Even better TPI casing at 3x180 and a puncture protection thread. I use them with tire liners for extra protection, I have never gotten a flat in over a year of riding, at 5000 km. And that's with TPU tubes.
I am riding the Ultra Sport for about 3000km now. And had no puncture yet. Would not worry too much. I am only a recreational driver though. But pretty happy with the tyre and think it rides very good.
BTW, the "e" in Schwalbe is not silent ;) It is pronounced like the "e" in "pet".
Always amusing that no one can pronounce Schwalbe. Sch--Val--Buh. Like the bird.
Ultra Sport are more compliant with latex inner tubes at 80 psi, they are fast and durable, but with the Continental 5000 , hands down.
@@AR-lz2br yes, the difference between Ultra's and GP5000's are like night and day. GP's are just better at everything.
I have Conti UltraSport II on my commuter, love them to bits, comfy, fast rolling, good grip and after 4,500 miles about 50% worn and so far zero punctures despite my commute being country lanes with Hawthorne hedges and across a university campus with frequent broken bottles.
I have these too, on different bikes and in different sizes. They are very nice for their price. But they are definitely not as fast as GP4000 or 5000.
They cope great with gravel, at least at the front, for the rear wheel on my everyday singlespeed I use Sport Contact II (latest model called Contact Speed).
I use the "obsolete" Vitorria Rubino Pro III. The last version before the newer ones with graphene. When tested, they have lower rolling resistance and still the same puncture protection as the later ones. 150TPI tire. Still sold online. Highly recommended
Me too, they are a great tyre!
Had a bad experience with them. Tyres delaminated and fell apart. Happened on two different rears
@@88pedro888 me too
would have been cool if you also tested a higher priced tyre to see the difference
Whats the title of the video ?
Great idea! Sounds like we need to run another test with some premium tyres under the same conditions. We'll take any excuse to do more testing!
@@cappaculla If a video title says "use one of these tires" it should also tell me how big or small the difference to the more expensive things are that are usually recommended.
@@jochenkraus7016 The title uses the word cheap in large letters, or did you miss that part..
@@cappaculla I also didn't miss the part that you should only use these tires. But what's the point of the more expensive ones then?
I'd like to see these compared to top-end tires like the conti GP5000 etc. Curious how they stack up, and how much more (or not) performance you get for a much higher price
great point. on my (still expensive Specialized Roubaix) with butyl tubes vs a similar wheelset (it does seem a bit faster no matter the tire though) vs. continental gps 5000... my personal experience is i get about an extra 1 to 1.5 km per hour. i am heavy and slow. average speeds for me are in the 22 to 25 km/hour range. Yes i am considering same route and weather conditions. No power meter data though. Moreover, the FEEL and sound and perceived rolling resistance of the Continental BLOWS AWAY the specialized Roubaix. The only drawback was the first set i had were damned near impossible to put on. Had to resort to water and soap trick to seat the beading. 2nd time mounting was ok. I just got a new continental gps 5000 tire to replace the rear (nearly worn out, and had a puncture... likely due to incorrect high inflation and a sharp rock. Note: with laytex tubes they do leak overnight so you need to pump them up a bit each day. IN MY OPINION, a great tire like the continental (or i hear, but have not used, Vittoria) combined with laytex tubes makes a far more enjoyable, speedy, grippy, and "feel the road" in a positive way. use a cheaper set like he recommends for early season / winter / or day to day stuff. I just have one carbon road bike with two wheel sets. lots of people have two or more road bikes though. for clunking to the tennis court or something short i have a KONA hybrid with big tires. hope this helps, please let me know. ps. the tires go on sale online fairly often for 40-45 % discount.
yes, I used Michelin dynamic sport, and I feel so fast already.
Why would you skimp on tires? It's literally the most cost effective purchase you can make it you want to go faster. Gp5000's or a similar tire in the same class + latex or tubeless and you're saving a good amount of watts.
Save money on everything else!
That's simple, do you get 2x more performance for 2x the price?
You don't know???
@@cloudsmith7803 Yea you do when you set them up tubeless which the Ultra Sports can't. 2x performance and 2x comfort. Win Win.
If you want an ultra sport with puncture resistance get the grand sport race. Same compound, similar price. I've been using it for awhile now and my only flat was a pinch flat from accidentally smashing my wheel against a rock.
Adding this, I use it on my gravel bike (on gravel lol) as it comes in 32c and it got less punctures than my gravelking ss despite having more mileage.
thanks for the advice. I'll try to buy a "Continental Grand Sport Race" - It turns out, that they are best suited to my application conditions😌.
hi, are you keep using the conti grand sport race? how often do you get flat on them? what kind of road are you riding?
Maxxis Persuer...I've been hugely impressed by the quality and price of this tire!It's fast, has a great road feel and it holds up very well. impressive... I paid £ 12 here in Taiwan. Brilliant cheap tire.
THANKS to your recommendation l got the Schwalbe Lugano II for my race bike and THEY ARE GREAT SO FAR getting up to 20+mph on these is easy compared to what l had before DAY NIGHT DIFFERENCE !! l ll update on how it goes as l put some miles on them :)
It may seem ironic, but I'll take all this on board, as I load my Mr Tuffy tyre liners and quality tubes (continental, shwalbe, specialized) into whichever tyre I'm replacing. I've never seen tyre liner rolling resistance quantified, but puncture avoidance is always a priority. You can always cover a lot of distance on any tyre, in the time you might otherwise be dealing with a puncture. Quality tubes? A high number of flats have come from tube failure - pinholes opening up on the seam, unrelated to any puncture or abrasion.
Which tyres would you go for?
Perhaps pin this comment at the top?
I ride Vittoria Rubino G2.0 with tan sidewalls. I am on my second pair and have had zero punctures so far. I have recently upgraded from butyl to latex Inner tubes and this has genuinely improved the performance still further. Love the tyres and the tubes. Only downside is latex tubes don't hold air the same so one needs to pump tyres before every ride, but this is a small price to pay imo.
I using gp5000 28mm . Currently 7000km++ 0 puncture. I think thats value of money.
Great original content video! Just a note on the Conti Ultrasports 3, Continental's tpi numbers are always over exaggerated and misleading compared with other brands as they are 3 layers of 60tpi (=180). Don't be fooled!
Always? Tubulars as well? Not Always I guess!
@@JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe it depends on the advertiser, some switched on sellers like BikeBug here in Australia list the Conti Competition tubular as 3/180 TPI which is effectively 3 layers of 60 TPI
The Michelin dynamic sport was horrible IME. Crappy feel like was mentioned, but worse is that I got punctures nearly every other ride for about a week until I finally gave up. And this was on my front wheel where I can normally get away with thinner tires (I run back tires out fairly quickly) and were on my regular routes so it wasn't like I was in worse roads than normal. Just glad it was cheap.
Thanks for the scientific testing. Very helpfully and quantitative results. That’s what I love about CW compared to gcn and others. Keep this great content coming..your tubeless sealant testing was a very informative video also. Thanks CW
conti ultra sports are better than most tires of double the price. they feel supple w the high thread count and the huge central siphons on the tread makes them deflect a lot on descents giving a lot of grip and confidence.
I've been using the Lifeline Prime Armour 700x25c tire for 2 years now and it usually lasts for 5 to 8,000 kms. It really does perform phenomenally especially for it's price which is sold here for only 12$. The tire provides good grip when cornering and through wet road conditions. It also has kevlar protection which saved me from stapler, broken glass, and even nail punctures. Although, admittedly it rolls considerably slower compared to my old tire which is a continental grand sport race.
I've been riding the "zaffiro pro g2.0" on my commuter throughout the seasons and I've had zero punctures or any issues of that kind. But the ride is not super supple and I don't think the grip is that great great in corners or wet conditions. I have the conti ultrasport on my road bike and definitely love the feeling on them, grippy and fast. no punctures either but I tend to ride the bike in good conditions only.
I got the Specialized Roadsport Elite 28c tyres at a discount. Before that it was the Michelin Dynamic Sports. They are each other's opposite: the Roadsport is heavy, and slow, but confident, comfortable, and saves inner tubes.
I love tests like this. I have the Conti Ultrasport and I think they have very good puncture protection. But then I drove the Tufo Calibra Lite before that and compared to those every tyre has good puncture protection. They were extremely fast though and weigh only 150g. 😆
Anyways excellent video. You've got a new subscriber. 👍🏽
Great to have you!
I have the Schwalbe Lugano 2’s on all of my 700c road bikes, and love them, especially in tan wall. Absolutely agree with this video.
Nice comparison video, but you need to know two things, wider tire dont add contact patch, is the same.
And lower presure in a wider tire )more volume) dont add comfort, the tire drop is the same.
Michelin lithions and the pro4 are imo great tyres for the money. on my fast bike I have tufo very light clinchers with pu tubes. I don't punctures probably as I run high pressure and I tend to replace tyres before they get too worn out
i switched to some more ofroad tires on my bicycle with the idea of abit better drivability on some short patches of gravel , it did not help with the gravel ridint as much but extra thread on tire sure to help protect inner tube from geting punctured. i bought continental tires for like 50 euros for both
Instructive, thanks, I have some of the Lifeline race tyres, lasted ages and no punctures, no complaints, also I'm not in a hurry !
That was a great review but the choice of tires was slim with Lifeline taking up the bulk of the tires tested.
The best tires to buy for around $20 is to find higher-end tires that are on a closeout sale. Recently I bought 2 pairs of Vittoria Open Pave CG III for just $20 each. The cool thing about those Vitts is that they are the most comfortable tire I have ever ridden since I stopped using tubulars over 35 years ago. So just keep your eyes open for closeouts, and buy a much better tire than those tested here.
Puncture protection is my prime concern.
Interesting video. I ran the Vittoria Zaffiros after a pot hole trashed my Hutchinson Fusions and the Zafs never missed a beat over 2500 winter kms and at £14 per tyre they were great value and rode well too.
How about a similar video on lower priced tubless ready tyres?
I was gonna lose my mind if the examples of "budget tires" here are more expensive than my racing tire (Continental Grandsport RACE, best racing tire I've tried btw), but I'm relieved to see the budget tires are actually in the reasonable range. During the first 3 months of 2022, I've bought Ultrasport IIIs 3 times once per month. I ride fairly smooth roads and there's a big gaping slash on the sidewall of my tire after about 1000km. I ride 90 psi, 48kg and avoid potholes at all cost, it's just continental being stingy and making a bad tire at their budget range. I've experienced/witnessed no such problem in the Grandsport Race, GP 4 season, Gran Prix, GP4000II, and the GP5000.
hi, how durable is the conti grand sport race? is it good at punture resistance?
@@SangNguyen-ew5hp You like never get a flat for months, then when the tires start getting worn understandably you start getting punctures every 5 km lol. If I were to describe it it's like immortal but with a limit.
@@dan_lazaro haha lol which tire are you using now?
@@SangNguyen-ew5hp still grand sport race, it works really well for the first 5 months so I just replace the back tire aftern6 months or roughly 8000km. It's like the puncture protection lining wears away with the tire as you use it
@@dan_lazaro impressive, I only ride roughly 5000km/year, I think the grand sport race is more suitable than the duraskin which is 4 times more expensive
do you have a video comparing puncture resistant tyres and their prices?
what do you think about fincci tyres?
Interesting. The next step is to compare the winning tyre(s) with higher end tires. Those trees along with TPU tubes may be well worth the small investment.
Another great tyre in my opinion is the Spesh Roubaix Pro. I'm running the 2bliss version which sizes up around 33mm on my 17s. Pretty quick, great in the wet and respectable on light fire trails. Highly recommend! ✌️
It’s a pity you can’t test for sidewall cracking. I’ve ridden several of these tyres and it’s a big problem
I ride the Continentals, Michelins, and Zaffiro. All ride well for me. One noteable BIG difference is that the Zaffiro DRY ROT on the sideways within 1-1.5 years. I have ridden 3 generations of this tire, and the first two generations both dry rotted quickly. Generation 3 i have not had on the bike long enough to decide. My Zaffiro dry rotted before the tires were worn out. very inexpensive tires that ride well, but in my experience, do not last. check your sidewalls if you ride them for cracking. in defense of the Zaffiro, they are by far the least expensive tire to ride and cost half as much as the goodyears in this video. The michelins are cheap to buy also. Conti 3 have gone up in price recently. I preferred the Ultra sport gen 2 tire over the gen 3 tire. had a better feel to me.
Useful you’ve gone for 25c tyres for these budget choices. My 10 year old rim brake bike (with mudguards for all year round riding), is limited to this size. Always gone with gatorskin hardshells, which are bullet proof, but a bit pricey and heavy. I’m tempted by the Lugano 2’s, especially for the summer. I’ve a,so got a cheap hybrid which came with budget Schwalbe tyres with the k-guard lining in them, and I’ve (maybe luckilly) only suffered 1 puncture with them, so I do rate k-guard as bing very decent for the price. .
I had a pair of Michelin Dynamic Classic tires with tan sidewalls and they worked pretty well for me. I would've liked to see how they stood next to these or even the other Michelin tires.
Great comparison. I’d love to see this in an under $40 batch of tires.
I ride the Jack Brown Mile Munchers from Planet X for both my road and commuter bikes - over 10,000km with no punctures! At £20 per tyre I wouldn't go anything else. They seem fast rolling as well, but it would be great to see it in a test like this one
My bike came with the Schwalbe Lugano 2's and i absolutely hated the feel, immediately ordered some new contis for the bike.
I run Goodyear eagle sports at the moment and I like them a lot. I have run Conti Ultra sports before and I do rate them highly, but after approximately 1000 km or so I began to get punctures , so I think they may ride nicer than Goodyears but at a cost of longevity. I may be a bit mad but I did notice that the Goodyears after a short period of ride time began to feel faster than when new??? This is something that is often not considered when testing rolling Resistance.
Should have included the conti grandsport race, a few dollars higher than the ultra sport but has puncture protection and faster with better grip, even in the wet. A budget racing tyres that you can daily drive
Useful and interesting, despite the combined blinking and hand waving.
None of the tyres are fantastic. Perhaps the top four could be compared with others in the next price bracket.
I’ve ridden several sets of the Vittoria zaffiro tires. The only negative downfall I have against these is the tread life does not last. I get about 600 to 700 miles and the tread has worn smooth and I have to replace them.
Are you kidding me… I’m building a road bike for the cheap and went to buy tires last night. Why didn’t I wait for this video!?!
What did you go for in the end? Maybe you could return them and buy something else?
I knew the eagle sports were good when I got them. they feel fast and a good ride, very close to higher level tyres
I would go for the Goodyears, Michelin or Vittoria. Those Continentals are not worth bothering about if they have no puncture protection. Even Continentals with PP puncture every 10 miles and with only 1 watt saving over the Goodyears, it's not worth it.
Been riding ultra sport and zaffiro and I can say just the best. Even do US "doesn't have that much puncture protection" I've never, ever had puncture. Not even my friends after 7000km on them. Only dissadvantage is weight.
for me, Vittoria Zaffiro is the best training tire. I've never flatted with them and I ride a lot...
I used the lugano 2 and they were the worst tires I've ever used, sluggish and flat all the time, even a cheap kenda was better. The best cheap tires I've used are the continental ultra sport 2 and 3, good traction, comfortable, fast and never got any flat with them
I supposed grand sport race should be better?
I had a set of Luganos, and they got flats from looking at them. When I started using them for daily commute, I got 3 punctures in 2 weeks. The worst tyres I've ever had in terms of puncture resistance. Got myself a set of Marathons instead, I couldn't be happier.
@@shhhdontshoutI haven't tried them
Never had a problem with them on East Kent roads
Tried the Lugano 2 and one tire was ok but the other developed a big bubble and was basically trash. Ended up getting a set of the conti ultra sports and never had a puncture.
Personally tires should be a priority for safety, ride and puncture protection so like with cars don't skimp on them they are the only thing that has contact with road so winter tire 4 seasons Cont or. Bontrager R3 or Michelin Power Endurance and summer Cont 5000 GP ! Want more puncture resistance go bigger tire run lower pressure like summer+28mm and winter 3#mm+. Since going up 3 years ago not had a puncture with tubes!😁
continental ultra sport III is the best...
I've been using the Zaffiro on my road bikes for a few years. Pleased to see they did well for such an inexpensive tire.
I swear by the Zaffiro tyres
Like to see test of the same tire by the same manufacturer, but different sizes..and same manufacturer different say road tires, by cost. It was enlightening to see the response of tire to different road surfaces. Thank you!
Good test. I wish you had included the measured tire widths.
I ride around 2500 miles anually and use whatever is cheapest in Decathlon. I cannot tell any difference in any of them. Currently on Zaffs they were less than 20 quid a pair or I would not have bought them.
Could be better test configured so energy input at the axial into the wheel and tire driving a dyno drum watt meter connected to an electronic load. This way we can tell input power versus output power to deduce tire efficiency and tire dissipation.
Hey, with test rig like that you could give all tyres on the market a solid review ;)
How would high quality tires, for example the continental GP 5000, compare?
That was my immediate question as well. My tires of choice are GP 5000 and I love them. But wondering how much I'd lose taking cheaper Ultra Sports?
Great point! Sounds like another test is needed! How about we test some of the best premium tyres and compile all the results?
If you do that test the 5000 with the new. 5000st to see if the price is worth it
@@cyclingweekly if you have the resources, yes please!
Maybe a also throw in a test which compares a tubeless and clincher tyre 👍🏼
@@ArteUltra1195 What would you rather see - a test of all the best premium tyres OR a test with some GP5000's set up with normal tubes, lightweight butyl tubes, tubolitos, latex tubes and tubeless?
Hello, Thank you for doing these tests and posting the results which are very interesting and helpful.
What is the margin of error on the measurements? The fact that you give power levels to two decimal places implies that the power measurements are accurate to the order of ± 10 mW. Did you repeat the measurements, maybe with other samples of the same tyres, to get an estimate of the spread in the results?
Schwalbe Lugano II's come in tanwall. Winner.
3 punctures in a single day-ride last year means I'm looking for puncture resistance over rolling resistance every time.
That’s just unlucky and probably not down to tyre choice.
Marathon plus ?
I hate to ask, but why didn't you throw one or two a higher-end tires on the machine for use as a control? I understand the importance of comparing them to one another, but I'd also love to see in concrete terms how this crop of budget tires hold up against (for example) a GP5000 S or a Vittoria Corsa G2.0.
I think it would lend more context to exactly what kind of value you're getting from the tires in this roundup.
I use the Continental Ultra Sport that you tested.
They were such an upgrade when I first switched last autumn, but a spring and summer of riding has seen them worn out. I have punctured twice in the last month, simply because the rubber has been worn.
I would recommend them though
Where are these tires manufactured?
Wanna share that here in mexico a brand named HUNTER sells the most durable of 700x28 tires and guess how much? $5.00 us dollars, yep a bit heavy but come on at that price and supper durable!!!
Wish the pirelli p7 sport was in this test.
CST CZAR tires are sweet for the price
A 'laser thermometer'? Why won't media organisations employ journalists that have had a science education?
Dr. Evil :)
Cant go wrong with the ultra sport III
The best upgrade you can do for a bike: have a bmi of 20.5-21.9, lighter wheels, latex tube, and better tires. Every bike comes with cheap, crappy mountain tires that could be adding 20-30 extra watts of force into your commute.
Excellent video. My tires are not cheap. I use specialized roubaix 700x25 with butyl tubes on one wheelset. On my “fast” wheelset ( honestly i don’ know why but giant sl2 seem faster than shimano ultegra.. both very old models) i use continental gps 5000 700x 25 with vittoria laytex tubes. The ride and feelof the continental blows away the sspecialized. Over three ( not winter) years i have one puncture. On the continental. I think i out the tire pressure too high…should get a digital gauge…i just go by feel/sound all my life). I hit a sharp rock. Despite cleaning out the tire and wheel with a cloth the spare immediately punctured too. Fortunately near a highway turnoff. Had to walk about 30 minutes then called a cab. Now i carry Two tubes! Sometimes i even bring a spare tire. For me a patch kit is useless as i need a bucket of water to find a small hole. So definitely puncture resistance is a worthwhile feature…depending on how much road debris on where you ride. My first thousand km i use my slow set of wheels then i switch to my continental set… i just LOVE the ride feel. Ps i just bought a set for 45 percent off online sale…so that is an awesome savings
American Classic not tested?!?! Super cheap, always in stocks on Amazon, and great sizes. Please test!
Would love to see where you find the Goodyears for $20. Walmart (your link from 7 days ago!) shows $45 and Amazon $33. At that price I'm probably better off with top of the line tires on sale somewhere on the interwebs, right?
Oh boi, try Kenda.
Serfas STX inertia 700 x 25c they're budget road tires I've been using, because of price.
Amen. Great tires. The start to get punctures when center tread thins.
I am riding those Michelins on my bike, i really like them
continental ultra sport III user here
Ultrasport 180tpi but actually 60tpi X 3 right? Expected to see chaoyang viper tested too
Given the number of variables, how relevant are these results to real world use?
Dude, you miss tested maxxis criterium, Deli Aramid & Kenda Kountach. Those tire below $17.
I wish i can find somewere test of S-works turbo Gripton 24c tire, not sure is it much better than mine Ultrasport 3 for racing speed.
Now do a mid tier or expensive tyres, that would be great
Is your store existing here in the Philippines? I'm interested to buy tires for my classic road bike, sized 27 x 1 1/4
Would have been nice to compare these to a mid price tire.
You should have tested the Continental Grandsport, which are cheap, provide a great ride and puncture protection.
Why test 3 Lifeline tyres?
Not an interesting or popular brand...
I like to see a test of the Bontrager AW3 Hard case lite.
I'm using the same Continental Ultrasports for 3yrs now since 2021 and never once got a puncture. I had more than 2000miles on them and is still fitted on my training bike (outdoor) up to this day.
I also use GP5000 on my race bike and the difference between them is like night and day.
Cst road and city
The only ones I use and cheappp
But very durable
I bought a pair of Good Year tires for my Mtb three years ago. They were terrible, I had to throw to the garbage.
Ride quality is not something that can be quantifed. TPI is only for refenerce. You won't go back to these tyres once you have tried top tier tyres.
AGREED!!
Maybe if I was racing SERIOUSLY, and wanted a BIG difference in feel between a 'race' set of wheels/tires and a training set, to get that 'race psyche' type advantage with the faster stuff on the starting line.
But then again, all of this low TPI, dead feeling, even worse yet with a butyl inner tube (EVEN the lightest 'race' ones!), lesser tires would be perceived as such a horrid ride to me that I would be DIS-incentivized to even train for said races in the first place!
But, given that I am not currently racing, I want the ride to be the absolute BEST it can be (in response, suppleness, speed, etc.) every time I throw my leg over my metal framed (titanium) machine. 😉
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Satan was Jesus elder brother of 2million years ruled creation when yr solar system was heaven&angels lived on yr planets.
Lol he rules with cmputer& a little medical money RFID chip u put in yr skin. He ruled with money back in heaven.
Lol he downloaded a teeny tiny invisible worldwide scary enemy. Scamdemi. So he could control earth with one PC.
Lol virus obviously going 2b in th n>(ose) swab&waxxines.
End of thday how many u geniuses want me link u 2worlds greatest history of mankind now& in2 all eternity backpack, or, maybe evn my unique stone home design?
Not even on = a cold&deadly eternal silence filled thforum bcuz 80% humans = demons& not engineered4 learning curve or 2b able even grasp such a concept, get thquestion right or knowhwre2 point& u humans meanwhile are humping them.
Stop humping I love u I pray 4u purple flower snake oil manufacturing clowns.
U can easily spot them by what they (never) do.
How many Lifeline branded samples?! Why the bias towards this brand for this article? 🤔
Surely it’s 80kgs including the bike frame?
It may be an average, since the weight on the front wheel is less than the one on the rear wheel.
Otherwise 80 KG are only realistic with very light weight riders
If the pressure is the same, the contact patch is the same regardless of the tyre width.
Vogue"Do you know who i am" williams didnt get her way on the flight,aww!
I use ultremo zx,it’s the only one I need
0:44 "differentiate" ... is that the right word?
I swear by Vittoria Zaffiro. These things NEVER puncture. I can ride hundreds of miles with no issues.
I've got these on at the minute they are durable but I find them a bit wooden feeling especially when braking downhill or cornering swapping them out for rubino pro IV see if I get on better.
And here I was thinking that my lifeline "race" tires were giving me a performance boost... 😢
Where is Lithion 3, this is best performance/budget tire ever made.