NP VS. PA | WHY I CHOSE NP ✨ Iveth Martinez
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Hello guys welcome back! Or if you’re new welcome to my new TH-cam channel where I share content about my experience through my nursing career. This video is about why I chose to switch my career from PA to NP, a lot of Pre med and pre pa students get to this fork and have trouble deciding so here are some of my reasons for switching!
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Incoming PA Student here- many programs have students that are starting right after undergrad (22 years old). Many of my classmates were paramedics, EMTs, I was an MA, nurses, respiratory therapists. Please remember that nursing isn’t the only career that will get you hands on experience. It also isn’t the only career that will allow you to see providers in the workplace. Nurses are also not the only healthcare professionals that can work under stress as well. I feel that my MA job has adequately prepared me for PA school :) Good luck on your journey!
Hi Taja Congrats on going to PA school that’s awesome! I’m surprised that students in your cohort were able to start right after undergrad that’s such a blessing, I wish my PA friends had that experience when they applied. & I did not want to make it seem as though nurses were the only profession that work under stress or the only profession that will get someone hands on experience. I wanted to clear this up because I respect every healthcare profession equally :). However, my point in the video was that the nurse gets a unique experience with the patient care (as MA’s, RT’s, and others get their own unique experience with the patient). And this conclusion actually came from MD’s & DO’s I have worked with in the ER and an outpatient clinic. I was an MA and an ER scribe prior to nursing school and I can definitely say it’s a whole different ball game. I know comparing nursing and physician associates can cause a little back & forth, but that’s why they are two different professions that are equally awesome! & that’s why different people gravitate towards one over the other. I wish you the best of luck in your PA studies and thank you again for taking the time to leave me a comment ❤️
Im a nursing student leaning towards going to PA school after I graduate rather than NP school. How do you feel the students who were RNs before PA school handled the schooling compared to others?
Both professions are great! Do what’s BEST for you. No matter what anyone believes they are both considered mid level healthcare professionals. Focus on helping people anyway that you can.
Current RN here who is in PA school. My decision was clear after comparing education of NP vs PA. NP program fill in alot of fluff nursing theory courses that dont help you become providers. PA education is standardized and difficult and competition is fierce to get in because its supposed to be. You want the best of the best taking care of patients. Being a nurse doesn't help with being a mid-level because its not the same position. PA school requires you to have 2000 clinical hours, NP 600. It doesn't compare. The easier route is not the best route sometimes.
There’s a reason why the NP scope is expanding meanwhile the PA isn’t.
@@alexsazo9540 I'm sure the american nursing association which is one is one of the strongest lobbying groups in D.C has nothing to do with it
@@Mac-tz4wn Could be that it plays a role but like I said, NPs now have a broader scope and more autonomy now essentially becoming a higher level than an PA is all I’m saying.
You hit the nail on the head.
@@alexsazo9540 was comparing countless NP and PA programs because I wasn’t sure which to apply, all i can say is im shocked how NP are pushing for full autonomy. Their curriculum is a fraction of PAs. Some NP programs are fully online, 100% acceptance rate, no BSN experience required, they would usually have 36-50 credits, a portion of that would be extended nursing courses that didn’t make me feel like i’d be prepared to be an APP. PA school has their curriculum modeled after medical school, usually with 3x the credit hours in all specialties. Plus, most the doctors i shadowed in clinics that had APPs preferred PAs over NPs… just look at the program admission requirements and curriculum of the 2 and it’ll be obvious. Not to mention there are studies out there that suggest worse patient outcomes and higher re-admission rates within 30days for patients seen by an NP.
I've been a PA for > 30 years and a post graduate emergency medicine residency graduate. The average age of my classmates was 34 yrs old. Every single one of them was already a health care professional. 1/3 were RNs, 2/3 were ex military medics, LVNs that went on to finish science degrees, xray techs, respiratory techs, physical therapists, paramedics, pharmacist, infection disease investigator, medical lab technologists ( they nailed pathophysiology and communicable disease) and showed that understanding pathology was more significant than prior clinical experience. RNs struggled with the pace of th e curriculum as much as all the rest of us. I've seen both strong and weak PAs and NPs. For me the best clinicians were the mature ones that continued to study medicine not nursing or allied health and had an intellectual interest in continuing to study medicine for the rest of their careers. I wish all of you a successful career no matter which you choose, you will have an awesome responsibility both to your patients but also to your profession. All it takes is one idiot or immature member to make the whole profession to appear inadequately trained.
Hey! Great video! I was thinking about becoming a PA but lately I have been looking into nursing! I heard a lot of good and interesting inputs. I can resonate with your story of not knowing what to do. I know it’s in medicine and working with people but I don’t know exactly what just yet...
Hey Marisol! Thank you for you kind comment ❤️ It happens to all of us especially right out of high school so it is totally normal for you to consider various options! The great thing about nursing is that it is very versatile 👍🏼 There are many opportunities as an RN or NP as well as Nurse anesthetist, cosmetic nursing, and nurse midwife! The possibilities are endless with this degree.
"Marison Reyes" you are lucky you are young enough to have time to decide. Some people are in their older years and still would like a career but can't plan on long term schooling and of course, debt.
While I agree with the RN’s getting more hours prior. But P.A.‘s get wayyyy more clinical hours vs NP’s in their masters program. So technically PA’s get more experience as provides than RN’s doing bedside care. You cannot compare the 2 experiences.
Totally agree! I also think the experience as an RN with meticulous patient care is super important
You’d be surprised how often RNs suggest treatments to providers
Why compare a RN entering NP or PA school to a Practioner. Why?🤷🏽♀️ . That’s like comparing a Pre-Med student with a 3rd year MD student. Of course the MD student will have more experience. What is bedside care as a RN? Completing full assessment of the patient. Listening to lung sounds and hearing fine crackles. Quickly assessing the patient and assessing vital and know the patient is experiencing dyspnea. Knowing the patient has CHF. Obtaining troponin labs and finding they are elevate. nitroglycerin administered after EKG since the patient may be having an MI. These are small , very minor things RNs must do. It goes above and beyond this depending on the RN and the role that he or she is placed in. I went to medical school obtained a masters degree and had classes with PA students. I also obtained my RN license. The strong amount of medical experience an RN obtains is exceedingly higher than any health profession student entering PA school. Pa school NEEDS clinical experience in school because most PRE-PA students need healthcare clinical hours during school because clinically they do not have nowhere near the medical knowledge of a RN who entered PA or NP school. As an RN I am already aware of all the medications, prepared and have made strong medical decisions based on thorough assessment and Critical thinking beyond following protocols. Most medical professionals besides PA , MD, NP, do not have nearly the strong clinical diverse background RNs obtain. NP vs PA school is not the question to ask. They are schools and it’s short term. To select a profession, The question is what profession fits you.Not what school fits you. You can find a school that fits what you are looking for. You can not bouncy professions so easily.
@@Dee-oq5ms I do it ALL theee time because we are exposed to numerous treatment options from different providers
PA experience is laughable
Hey... Its a great video!!! I loved it seriously, can you give a video on international students, how could they apply for masters etc., please
I wish I was more knowledgeable on the subject. I have never applied internationally before, however I believe there’s a certain application for it. Thank you so much for your comment I’m so glad you enjoyed the video ❤️❤️
New Subscribers!! Great video
Yay thank you!!
Great choice ! :)
Thanks! I’m glad I chose nursing it’s very rewarding so far and I have only 2 semesters in 🎊
@@nurseiveth5076 It is ! Enjoy it, it can be fu too ! Many blessings in this career. Thank God
I'm new too on my channel. Still lazy to learn editing
you forgot to mention that PA students have to do rotations, they don't just jump into practice
Yes this is true! I didn’t explicitly mention it because all medical professionals do clinical rotations in order to graduate from their program including RN’s, PA’s, and NP’s :)
Proud to be a nurse!
Running after tomorrow and afternoon assembly another summer what the problem
how much does an np make annually.
It varies from state to state, in NYC its around $120,000-$160,000.
Short answer: You made that choice because you were/ are SMART lol.
I'm coming back to watch this video as soon as I have time 🙂
Do you plan on getting your DNP later
As of right now I’v narrowed it down to the MSN, but I have considered going for my DNP
Working w/ both i can say that in general, NP's are > PA's. Of course the run of the mill schools don't help NP academia but given equal experience post-graduation, it is clear which provider has more knowledge
As a NP, I think it's unbelievable and unethical that someone with no bachelor degree in a medical or biological focused undergrad degree - who never had a caregiving role whatsoever - could get into a masters PA program. I knew someone who had a fricking English degree who got into a PA program 😳. That's frightening to me and completely unfair. We worked our a**es off for a very difficult BSN and then NP school and someone could get some easy degree like English and get into a similar care provider Masters degree program?!?! That's just ridiculous and for that fact alone I think NPs should held in higher regard. Unfortunately, we're often not.
Regardless of the degree, PA school applicants still need to complete science prerequisites, as well as direct patient care hours (many include the caregiving role that you mentioned). Nurses and NPs alike are amazing and invaluable, but you shouldn’t bring down the PA profession just from knowing one English major!
As the commenter above mentioned, PA students have a long list of classes to take to get into a program, not to mention thousands of hours of clinical experience. It’s usually a thousand hours patient care experience as a minimum, but multiply that to be considered competitive. Then there’s shadowing hours, volunteer hours, etc.
I’m pre-PA right now, working for it like crazy…….And I have an English degree. 😂 (I got my English degree many years before I chose to pursue medicine.)
@@freyja77 go you!! Congrats! Best wishes! 🥳🩺🥼⚕️
@@SC-hu5pz thank you!!!!!!! 😄
I have my bachelors degree in mechanical engineering currently working as an engineer while I work my tail off to complete the rigorous pre req courses for PA programs. Not to mention some programs require the GRE/Ochem which I don't think is an easy feat myself. Id say they both are respectable and commendable professions with unique attributions to each.