Halloween 3 & 4 Review - Off The Shelf Reviews
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- (Re-uploaded) Gary and Iain review and discuss Halloween 3 (1982) by Director, Tommy Lee Wallace, and Halloween 4 (1988) by Director, Dwight H. Little. Starring, Tom Atkins, Stacey Nelkin, Dan O'Herlihy, Donald Pleasence, Ellie Cornell and Danielle Harris.
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You can always tell that it's one of their earlier videos when Iain introduces himself as Iain.
Yes!! I just discovered them about a week ago and have been binging since. These Halloween videos are the first I've watched where I noticed that Iain actually said his own name. I had to play it back to make sure I heard him right 😂
8 more days to Halloween, Halloween, Halloween. 8 more days to Halloween, Silver Shamrock.
thanks jimmy
I lost my shit with the hillbillies shooting into the bush scene. The Aliens audio, the Predator and Evil Dead scenes intercut with it was genius. Kudos.
Would've worked better if Haddonfield were in Florida instead of Illinois; classic Florida Man scenario.
Any over the top shooting scene should have Donald pleasance saying "I shot him 6 times" X6
Halloween 3 seems more like a more violent version of goosebumps
Nemesis Wolf I agree
Only without the dumb twist ending that can be seen coming fifty miles away and R.L Stein's penchant for not having any talent as a writer despite pumping out books by the dozen in the 90's in much the same way that stephen king did in the late 70's while he was a pilled coked and boozed up..
More like a festive, self-aware take on _Shadow Over Innsmouth._
Literally
It's really just a shame Halloween 3 didn't do so well and is only now receiving a re-evaluation as a hidden gem. I would've liked to see a Halloween anthology series not focused on Micheal Myers cause let's be honest he's a one-trick pony.
Yeah Halloween 3 is a bizarre movie but on its own isn't that bad as for Halloween 4 it was brilliant
I love Halloween 4
Its not a bad movie its just a standard slasher.It falls under pretty good
It’s Halloween ‘78 meets an action movie. I love it!
It’s not perfect, and I prefer 2, but it comes in 3rd for me when ranking the films.
Halloween 3 is underrated imo. It would have been a solid stand alone film. Take away the Halloween title and it's regarded completely different.
Halloween 4 is a mixed bag. The script was written in less than 2 weeks bc of a writer's strike. I wonder how many plot holes would have been ironed out under different circumstances.
Loved the final scene of 4. Wish they hadn't wimped out on the Jamie angle in 5
Yeah. It is important that we move on from Micharl Myers already :/
That edit where you can briefly hear alex murphy screaming had me absolutely howling with laughter 😂 well done lads.
'The story for Halloween IV was after that f*** off great big explosion...' I was in stitches when you said that because I knew exactly what the gist of what you were saying would be. I had to skip back two minutes, after I could breathe again, to be sure.
the CEO of the
SHAMROCK CORPORATION
became the CEO
of
OCP
OMNI
CONSUMER
PRODUCTS
in ROBOCOP 1987
and ROBOCOP 2 1990
I still love H4. Plot holes yes, but good suspense IMO. To me this was the last sequel or Halloween movie that tried to get it right. Also, Alan Mcelroy wrote the script in 11 days because a writer's strike was looming.
Same. The scene where Jamie had to decide to either help Rachel (who'd fallen off the roof) or run from Michael & the ensuing chase got under my skin (in a good way) because Danielle Harris was a child. It made it that much more terrifying.
30:04
that power station
looks like the old
WWF MONDAY NIGHT RAW
stage set
those gunfight clips get me everytime >____
Halloween 4 is actually my second favorite after the original but your review is f-in hilarious. Looking forward to watching more.
Agreed, think the boys are being really unfair on 4. It was never going to live up to the original but as a film to re-start the franchise I think it works. There are some good kills (the fire place one), I like Jamie's plot and think Harris gives a good performance. I like the Lynch mob and roof top scenes. But yeah Iain tearing into it was funny! I expect a bigger rant for part 5.
Halloween is also playing on the television in Adventures in Babysitting which was produced by Debra Hill.
I love the look on Loomis' face when the priest asks him if he'd like a drink. The way his eyes widen, as if to say "fuck YES, I'd like a drink!!!"
I think the Silver Shamrock theme tune is probably the most haunting aspect of the whole Halloween series.....Stop it..Stop it...Stop it!!!!
the male paramedic in the
Ambulance in part 4
is the voice of
ROGER RABBIT
He’s also at the dream clinic in the original nightmare in elm st
That's not him in H4 lol
its thanksgiving today and I am grateful to have found you two. awesome review. Halloween 4
HALLOWEEN 4
when the DEPUTY
is in the rocking chair
MICHAEL MYERS face appears
in the background
Love you guys so much! Keep the good reviews coming.
Fun Fact:
German power metal band Helloween has used the silver shamrock music from halloween 3 as their live show intro music off and on since the 1980's.
Their now out of print 1990 live album Live In The UK features it in it's entirety as the intro too Eagle Fly Free, as part of their pumpkins reunited tour they have resurrected the use of the music for the first time in 20 years.
I’ve gotta say that the bad guys monologue about why he’s doing it is my fav moment in this movie while wishing the hero a Happy Halloween was just the bees knees.
The silver shamrock tune is in my head and it's killing me
I crack up whenever Dwight Little's name is brought and Iain looses it😆 great work as always 😎
RIP Bucky the electrical worker. May he live on in eternity.
The bullying scene is to establish that Jamie has dealt with Michael being her uncle long before he awoke from his coma.
Exactly. H4 is far from perfect, but some of their critiques were really nitpicky stuff that never bothered me. I've seen the movie dozens of times and I never once was bothered by the slow mo with the audio at normal speed.
A question just occurred to me: WTF was Ted Hollister doing in that bush? He brought it on himself acting like a stereotypical pervert.
Maybe He was Just taking a Piss!
@@jamestyer8294 Hmmm. Fair I guess. I've taken a piss in some strange places myself.
That Silver Shamrock song is not nearly as annoying as "Do you know how Christmas trees are made" from On Her Majesty's Secret Service!
Dude, Conal Cochran is the freaking Emperor Palpatine of the Halloween saga. He's awesome.
Halloween 3 is 1982, not 1981. Halloween 3 costed 2.5 million and made 14.4 million at the box office. I like it and has the greatest plot and idea that deals with harming kids in the greatest ingenious way (not that i wish or like kids being harmed...i don't.) other than poison or razor blades in candy. That annoying tune you said...the main version of that tune with the announcement is on the soundtrack.
I got into an hours long
argument with a friend
about why
Michael Myers
was still alive
I said
"it was because evil never dies"
she said
"why didn't Dr Loomis
KILL Michael Myers while
he was in a coma
and cut off his head"
I said
"maybe he didn't know
Michael Myers was still
alive until he escaped"
🙁It's like once a studio realize it has a hit on it's hands, they not only milk it for all it's worth, but also try to wrestle creative input from the creator of said project. Carpenter. Hooper. Frank Darabont and The Walking Dead franchise. Even Robert Kirkman to a point. He's suing AMC now.
loved the time zone realisation...never thought of that lol
Love your videos. Big fan now. Continue on.
I will always remember Donald's for his excellent performance as Lumis he did everything in his power to stop Michael but people keep giving him hell about it. Some of them need to go to the hospital where Michael stayed at & find out if Lumis did try to keep him locked up & when people at the Smith's Groove say "Yes" then the people who accused Lumis feel guilty & pissed at themselves. They try to find Lumis but learn too late that he died it's obvious that his endless quest to stop Michael Myers eventually killed him & the most that felt guilty was former Sheriff Bracket.
HIII & H4 are my two favorite movies in the entire franchise!
Danielle Harris was great in The last boy scout
The best part about Halloween 3 is the music. Fantastic soundtrack!
Happy happy halloween halloween halloween happy happy halloween silver shamrock
+NeonWolf290 "If it goes on, it means the death of millions! Everyone watching! Don't you understand that!?"
I'm sure we'll be fine
Halloween 3 is such a wierd original flick- something oddly comforting about this movie- another carpenter classic
This movie is a lot better than its reputation suggests. Some of it is cheesy, but it has its chilling moments. The spooky town. Cochran. Those expressionless robots. The scene with the obnoxious family being used as a test family. Etc.
I said it before and I will say it again. I thought the crazy one in the entire film series was Loomis. All Myers was doing was being your typical serial killer. I thought Loomis was more insane than Myers was. He ran around like the crazy madman.
I have said the same thing myself. I always think people in the first Halloween movie (and the others) would take his warnings more seriously if he wasn't ridiculously over the top and acting like a lunatic.
@@SummerBayJournal I SHOT HIM 6 TIMES!
DIsagree with you guys on this movie; whatever you think of the rest of the film, Loomis does an incredible job and the whole beginning with him running into Myers in the gas station, then getting picked up by the preacher who recognizes a kindred spirit in him is just great, due in no small part to Donald Pleasence.
The thing with four is like 2 its just a standard slasher.The difference is 2 tried to copy Carpenters style.Were as four tries to just be a good slasher.Four is a pretty good slasher.But lacks the artistic nature of the first 2 in my opinion.
When I see the Stonehenge monument in Season Of The Witch, just one line comes into my mind....."No, we're not going to do f###ing Stone'enge!", SOTW I really liked to be honest, a change from Michael Myers repeatedly killing people
That is a spinal tap reference, right?
I liked the anthology idea they could've sprinkled in Michael movies as they went.
I just really enjoy your guys reviews, love all horror movies and your accents are very cool!
I remember going to a local video store decades ago and reading the back of the VHS box for this movie and being very interested in it having done so.
I'm really surprised how much they are hating on Halloween 4. Sure, it doesn't make sense how they survived the explosion from Halloween 2 but once you get past that it's a superb sequel and makes for a great trilogy with parts 1 and 2 with an unforgettable ending that bookends the trilogy beautifully. It's definitely better than every one of the sequels that came after it and Halloween 3. It's pretty highly respected by fans too.
I never once considered why Dr. Loomis was still alive nor questioned his make-up. I was also 7 when I first saw the movie...
You can actually see when the networks took over everything, all of us born in the early to mid 80s love Halloween 4&5 , not because they are good but because we saw them on tv over and over and over again when we were kids and we weren't supposed to be watching this stuff.
We remember the experience of watching late at night with friends or sneaking around to watch on volume 1 so our parents wouldn't hear.
The experience of watching a horror movie as a kid knowing you weren't supposed to makes the experience amazing.
As an adult, you see it on and you turn it there because it brings back fun memories.
Halloween 4&5 are The Christmas Story or the horror genre.
The memories make the film good.
Hey guys! Love the reviews! Now.. clearly - based on your review of "cabin Fever" - you don't always agree on movies you like. But will you ever do a review where you just have an all out brawl oer a disagreement?It would be hilarious if there is just that ONE MOVIE out there where civility doesn't seem possible.
Talk about the biggest tease ever in Halloween 4: when Kelly is on top of Brady undoing her bra and they choose THEN to do a cutaway, on arguably the hottest girl in the series.
you know something? Its never said how Jamie's parents died.
So the priest is Carmen Filpi, he was in Boy Meets World as was Danielle Harris
I think Halloween 3 is my favorite but this should have been called Halloween season of the witch
He was burned alive and shot 8 times in the last movies yet they thought shooting him some more would kill him.
I really liked Halloween 4. Not for everyone I guess.
11:09 in real life that was Tom Atkins actual Wife , as triva goes. (:
Why do I like this more than any other Halloween movie? Tom Atkins and fantastic cinematography aside, it must be the music and the dark atmosphere. Dan O'Herlihy seals the deal and I could care less if there are teens getting stabbed by Michael. That combination of great Halloween atmosphere minus all the conventional crap that comes with Michael makes me hands down enjoy watching this more than any Halloween sequal.
Love your reviews guys. Think you can review horror films like The Sentinel (1977), Black Christmas (1974), When a Stranger Calls (1979), the 1993 TV sequel When a Stranger Calls Back, and Dark Night of the Scarecrow (1981)?
Why is there a photo of Abe Lincoln, framed, in the gas station?
Took me years to see this but the scene when they arrive at the house and meeker and the other cop say "isn't all this a little paranoid"? you can see Michael standing in the background, BUT JUST BARELY!
Halloween III did feature Nancy Kyes aka Nancy Loomis and Dick Warnock in different roles.
Nancy Loomis was the only one who was in the first 3 Halloween films. Along with Jamie Lee Curtis in a way.
I have the feeling that Cochran was just a sadistic troll who got a kick out of child murder, he'd make a great Hollywood executive.
One thing that I haven't seen mentioned is during the scene where Michael drives off in the tow truck. Look at the scenery. It's the California desert. It's not Illinois. Completely ruins the illusion that this takes place in the Midwest.
#3 is probably my 2nd fave of the series, only behind #1. Too bad Carpenter's "vision" was just too hard for people to grasp -- a different movie every Halloween.
azraelswrd Dear god i wish this had caught on
still till this day i believe its underrated as a stand alone movie
Halloween 6 provides a link to Halloween 3, the Toymaker in 3 refers to meeting Mrs Blenkinsop and she was Michael Myers' babysitter and a pagan cultist, just like the Toymaker. Maybe he was also a member of the Cult of Thorn?
This review just made me want to watch Predator again! Haha!
37:05 I wish there was a version of this which just hand Michael doing the moon walk and avoiding every shot
I would like to see you guys review the Friday 13th movies
Halloween 2 pissed all over what made halloween great...halloween 4 futhur pissed all over it.
There should have been no sequels..period.
H 3 has always been a guilty pleasure for me.
They should've done an anthology, but kept Loomis as the protagonist. It could've been like the James Bond series, except supernatural.
What franchises did they have in early 80s?
Halloween 4 was the last time a Halloween movie scared me and made me jump. I saw it at the theatre when I was 14 and I remember the beginning when the lightning filled the room and there was The Shape in the mirro. It made me jump and the younger kid in the row in front of me threw his popcorn. I was pleasantly surprised by it. Haven't been scared since, unfortunately. The 2018 reboot was decent and I do want to see H Kills and H Ends. It would be nice to be scared again, but maybe that just comes with age (the inability to be scared anymore by a movie).
It's wild home much we love or hate the same film based on the lens we view it through. Emotions aside, this movie is so fantastically evil and enjoyable.
Woah totally never realized some of the original score from the first Halloween is in Halloween III. Gonna have to watch it again, it's been years.
I had the soundtracks and III had all original music. No music from I or II.
...The scene in H3 when challis is tied to a chair with a mask on, the original halloween score is playing on a TV
@@danieldalton6544 go rewatch the movie
H3 should have just been called Season of the Witch. this film would have gotten alot more play, because it's a good movie.
Not only have you found your niche, but as you both know you have honed your craft.
H3 - Cochran clearly explained why he was doing this.
He was upset that Halloween had become commercialised and a time of fun. He wanted to take the festival back to its actual pagan roots.
Step 1, take out the target audience of fake Halloween.
I mean, it doesn't sound much better than 'no reason', but its the reason he gives.
I'm definitely a fan. I love the first half dozen or so Halloweens just for their slasher movie thrills. I don't look for sense in these movies lol, but yes when and if there is sense, it does make it more enjoyable.
Sorry, I'm still new with you guys, the one on the left of the screen, you mentioned the bugs and snakes coming out of the mask effect being low budget. That never even crossed my mind, maybe during the very first watch, but since then just imagine how many millions of Children this was going to happen to, there would be swarms of killer bugs on a biblical level.
Also, fun fact and I love raving about him. Nigel Kneale wrote the original drafts, but I honestly can't remember if it was creative differences or the budget, or both I think Carpenter's rework of Kneale's script went too far astray and Kneale didn't want his name attached.
Nigel Kneale, for those who don't know. British Master of Sci Fi and the mini TV Movie, a second George Orwell to many and the father of Adult Science Fiction. He wrote the TV movie Woman in Black from 1989 which I know you guys are a fan of because, well you've seen it. I recommend you guys find a whole lot more of Nigel Kneale's work. His best oddly enough were his earliest work, the pub emptiers of the 1950s, Quatermass. 3 TV series and a Movie based on each series, he's ripped off by Speilberg with Poltergeist and King with Tommyknockers. A Legend you guys Video and others, would probably appreciate.
If not you can just go and.... Sorry, angry Geek mode keeps kicking in. Seriously though, check out more of his work. Most of you will love it.
I always thought that
MICHAEL MYERS
switched bodies with
JAMIE LLOYD
You'd think that if they wanted to do a successful anthology series you'd advise it as such. I wasn't alive when it came out but maybe audiences weren't used to ideas like this, but anthology was really popular before then on television.
It's not a spider. It's a potato bug, also known as a Jerusalem cricket
Stacy Nelkin was so delicious it was almost criminal for her character to end up the way she did.
I've seen Season of the Witch once. I don't own it on any media
Over the years I have changed my mind about 3. I Thought it was actually clever and had memorable hero and villain. It would have done better as a stand alone had it not had the Halloween name. Also the time change was a very observant point.
FULL SPOILER ALERT....!
37:38 Thirty-two years after first seeing it (shit... I'm old!) I have NEVER understood why the Sheriff tries to stop Loomis aiming the gun (that he already knows Loomis is carrying).
They've just had a mass-murder spree in the town, there is a blood-curdling scream from upstairs that implies the survival of an unstoppable killer and Loomis readies his gun.
--I initially assumed that the Sheriff had already seen that it was Jamie (a small girl) holding the knife and, naturally, would not let Loomis shoot a child... but then, we cut to a shot of his realisation... AND, he's aiming the gun himself?!?
God, this movie is badly made piece of nonsensical jibber.
Tom Adkins actually threw that mask over the camera on his 1st try.
Pimp
I thought originally
Michael Myers transferred
his soul and
consciousness into
Jamie
@Lebo leigh Leigh
that was in the original script
Those are not spiders coming out of the mask at 13:30...those are crickets.
Halloween 1 and 2
Lindsay was played by
Kyle Richards
Pari Hilton's aunt
You know re-watching this review, they could have tied 3 into the whole franchise if one of the masks in 3 was a clown mask, which made the kids act like Michael and the 'androids'. Then, at the end of 4 have Jamie wearing one of those same masks. Basically Cochran wanted to turn all the kids in to little Michaels; searching for the perfect replacement (after trying to replicate his behavior with the androids) which could have also tied into the thorn trilogy.
I shouldn't have watched this before bed. Freakin' shamrock song is going to be in my nightmares.
"It's still running, For God sake please stop it there's no more time.. You've gotta please Stop it Now turn it off..Turn it Off... STOP IT! STOP IT, STOP IT! STOP"!!!!!!!
American Despot Doctor Wolfula; "Okay, fine! Happy now?"
Dr SAM LOOMIS
DONALD PLEASANCE
RIP
and
REVERENDJACKSON P SAYER
CARMEN FILPI
RIP
should have got their own
movie
this kinda reminds me of, The Mystery of the Druids.
I saw this (H4) at the cinema in 1988, maybe early 89 and I was mortified at what I saw. I went with a mate and he liked it but when I explained the phenomena that was the first movie (not so much the second) he watched them and was on board with how crap this flick was. Still have it in my collection tho. I will admit it has grown on me marginally in my advancing years but that's mainly due to the fact that it's a masterpiece compared to the shite that followed. Season of the Witch is great!! I love that movie!! Great reviews guys!!
great channel, sub added :)
I think the broadcast wa going to be everywhere at once irregardless of the time zone