Yeah, it was a different style back then that I so appreciate. 2-7 always had a really good rifle line too. I know a lot of people do not care for what colorguard has become. I love it when I see something new. CC and Boston with Townsend and of course BD (not as much of late but they are always on their A game),
As a snare drummer, for some reason I find it strange to say that the color guard was bad ass in this show. I've never really bothered to pay attention to what they were doing. But on this show, I'm glad I did...just absolutely amazing.
Was on the field that hot August night in Birmingham. 37-years later my ears are still ringing. Marched off the field that night and haven't attended a show since.
Bb horns have a band sound, loud and full. "G" bugle is a rip your face off loud ! ! brass players like these guys can do it and still get a superior quality sound.
The average musician today is probably far better today from a technical standpoint and all of the charts are written to demonstrate technical skill and I enjoy and marvel at what they do musically, but I miss the sound and volume of the G horns. I never found them hard to play or hard to get a quality sound out of them but they were definitely not like playing a trumpet. Gawd, I miss that feeling.
Don't see stuff like that anymore. I was blessed to have marched from 76 - 80'. Those shows & sounds back then would just knock your socks off !!... Didn't need ''wimpy'' Transducer mics attached to the Bells of the horns either.. Those actual Valve /rotor or 2 valve ''Bugles'',, no way needed any help projecting sound.... Now they use ''band'' Trombones also ect... ''Really'' ??
Just watched this AGAIN!!! There really was nothing like the old "park and bark". And yes, I'm old school. But still love drum corps. The crowd loved having their faces melted off by the power corps, though!!
That shout chorus is the epitome of what that G-bugle era drum corps was, and Madison Scouts did it as well as anyone. "We're gonna line up as close to you as they're gonna let us and let you have it...and you'll beg for more". Totally selling out in an orgiastic frenzy of acoustic musical instruments. Selling out like that did lose points in precision and refinement which sadly is the end-all in today's dci. Even then, this era Madison would seldom break the top 5 because of it, and we LOVED them for it. But this was about overwhelming the senses, not elevating them. That's what the friggin' Vienna Philharmonic is for. Oh, and the rifles, lordy!
Damn, tight sound and musicianship. And that rifle section...total boss! Every now and then I hit youtube to get my DCI fix. Love watching the "classic" DCI shows since i was first introduced to them when I was 15 back in 1842 (ok, 1978). Madison Scouts and Blue Devils have always been favorites of mine. Still enjoy listening to this arrangement of Malaguena.
WOW - 88 was always my benchmark for Malaguena but WOW - this version smokes!!! Thank you to the video producer who stayed on the rifles to capture what they were doing for an extended period! DANG!!!
I love to watch the Rifle line. They have always been the best in my book. I remember watching them use two rifles one season. Thier hand placement on tosses and all moves is so there. Always together.
What makes the rifle line so outstanding is their skill level (for that time) and the fact that they appear cloned. Clones in style, technique, and even posture. Old school classic!
I remember this performance! I marched with Memphis Blues Brass Band that year. Gave me chills then, gives me chills now. What an amazing time for Drum Corps that was!
@@jeffreydancinger2875 Madison Scouts were once very closely associated with a Boy Scout Troup, and up until a certain time, ALL the members of the Madison core were male, and yes the color guard and even the rifle work in this one is supperb.
In 1980 the Scout's rifle line were the rock stars of DCI. There were lots of good rifle lines (Guardsmen, 27, BD, (SCV - even with the bed posts) but Madison was doing amazing stuff and they were always tight, hence the snap.
Awesome old school DCI! Fantastic sound and tons of passion. Rifle line had a unique style that was extremely consistent from member to member, almost like clones, and with incredible precision. This video and Madison's Empire State of Mind video give me chills.
It's 2024 and I saw that show live! in 1980. This Madison Scouts version of Malaguena and the whole show still stands the test of time as one of the best ever. This was the epitome of the late 70's into the mid-80's era of power corps.
Word. No amount of amplification, electronics, trombones, set design or narration can replace the body, timbre, shear volume and brass-balls of a good G Bugle line.
@@jsf1212 as a professional trombonist, I COMPLETELY AGREE! They're meant for indoors. Don't think I'd want to be trapped in a small to medium sized room with 20 angry baritone bugles. Ummm, maybe I would, just once.
Still takes my breath away to see them! I competed against them in the 60s. Now a 70 yr old woman thrilled to see these legends go on! Hard work kids, but ya kill it out there on that field as always! Favorite corps EVER! I was in Drum Corps with Chris Tomsa & I believe some of you will know who that man is. His older sister, Tina, (RIP) and I were besties in the day & traveled every mile with her & our families. GOD BLESS YOU ALL!
Thank you so much for posting this!! I was a member of a smaller Corps that was on tour with Madison that summer. I got to see their show every night for weeks on end. Malaguena was always my fave part of their show.
Back when drum corps was drum corps 😁❤️😎! This was what I fell in love with ❤️! I have an immense affection for the Kenton “Malagueña” - we performed it for our concert-number later that year 😁! I was on mellophone, and we got the Bluesy countermelody - we were a bit more loosey-goosey than Madison’s horn-line, a bit more unhinged 😎 (our band director wasn’t too happy about that 😅). And … what can you say about Madison’s rifle-line? 😁 Mechanized perfection, rendered in flesh and blood 😁❤️😎!
I was here in 1981 at Legion Field to watch DCI and I believe Southwind Drum and Bugle Corps performed their first of many tours that year. I recall a heavy rainfall before the performances and it seemed likely that it was all going to be cancelled, but finally the weather let up and the competition began.
Seen a comment on another Scout Vid., where a person said that Corps back then looked 'stupid''... I marched back then till 80',, & my reply to that person was,, ''how old are you?''.. Pissed me off actually,, & I bet that person isn't even old enough to have been a part of, or witness,, to that epic stuff & times back then.
I really think this was one of the cleaner performances of this classic, well articulated ! not that the other years were NOT clean, just this one had that "extra crispy" flaver to it !
Good ol days. Scouts, along with Phantom Regimemt, SCV, Blue Devils, Wausau Story, Blue Stars, St. Paul Scouts were among my favs. Went to DCI nationals twice. Memories 1976-1979.
If you as a person, do not understand why EMPIRE State of Mind was not a phenomenal closer, you need to go back and watch that show. It was describing the events of September 11, 2001. The reason why the closer was so good was because it was a very incredible depiction of the human spirit. It wasn't just for show, a lot of those men are were old enough to remember that day very clearly, and I wouldn't be surprised if a few of them lost someone they knew in the attacks. People of every age, race, and gender were crying when they finished performing in 2011.
I was in HS Band wayyyy back from '75-'79 and this Corps just gave me chills! I got to be a Drum Major my Jr and Sr years...Head Drum Major Sr (still can't figure out how I didn't get it Jr year considering who beat me out lol)yr and thanks to our HS Marching Band being so big and strong, I got to often direct like the DC DMs and it was a freakin thrill ride! I was always drenched with sweat and gasping for air once we left the field! Maddison Scouts were my first crush, even though I lived far far from Wisconsin lol. This old school stuff is still the best as I see it....still get a kick watching those Percussionists lugging those huge Tympani Drums around lol. I certainly miss marching and directing! In College I finally got to dress close to the style of the Scouts! If I could today, I'd be right back on that podium...or whatever there may be...Throwing myself into those powerful pieces, nearly losing my shit lol.
From about 3:40 on, the melephones, along with some of the baritones are absolutely killin it with very high running licks. I once was a very accomplished clarinet player,(my junior year, the director tuned the entire band off of me). I Had zero help from my band directors, I played on a rico 2 1/2 reed until sometime in my 10th grade year, when by chance, I went into a music store to buy some reeds(I had always bought reeds from my directors, and they always sold me rico 2 1/2 reeds, these are good reeds for beginers, but they are horrible reeds for a stud 9th grader, or above). Anyways, a beginner should play on a rico 2 1/2 for a year or two, then more capable players should move to a rico 3, or a La Voz Med. Hard. My sound came alive on the La Vox Med Hard reeds. I could actually project as a good clarinet picker should. If I had been at a larger schools, I would have had a woodwind instructor who would have know what me and my fellow players needed. Three of my directors were brass players, one was a drummer. All my directors took the view that woodwinds filled out the marching band, and they helped the concert band, a little bit. Turns out, a clarinet, with the proper reed, should be the 2nd loudest instrument in a band, almost even with a good trumpet. Makes me wish I could go back and play low brass.
I was THERE, and saw/heard this. EVERY section fits together into a WHOLE that is 'mind-blowing.' Honestly - I SERIOUSLY don't think you're going to find a better version of "Malaguena" ANYWHERE. Yes, you may find "different" versions. But "Better"? NO, I DON'T THINK SO!!
I marched in DCA with the Reading Buccaneers from 1975 thru 1979. I always preferred the sound of the G-Bugle, with either two or three valves. I thought the sound was brilliant and bright, and, when corps moved from the piston-rotary combination to two piston valves, the horn was easier to keep in tune and play. To me, the G-bugle defined drum corps. In 1999, when the first allowed the Bb and F horns in DCI, Drum Corps basically became a band without woodwinds. I liked the fuller, warmer sound, but it was just not drum corps. They are already using trombones and french horns. It won't be long before you see saxophones out there.
It will be a LONG time before you see any woodwinds (if ever) on the Drum Corps field. You might be old school but things evolved so that the activity can survive.
Correct! There was no “pit” back then, and the sport was better for it! You have to remember that drum-and-bugle-corps had its beginnings in the *military*, and when a field unit moves, it takes everything with it, man-carried. If DCI ever wants to impress me, they’ll get rid of the pit, and go back to valve-and-trigger G bugles! 😁❤️😎
jsf1212 look man, I appreciate all eras of drum corps including now. Everything changes and not everyone likes change . I’m pretty sure if the drum corps now started in the 60s and evolved to this era of drum corps, there would still be a lot of haters . Yes you may not like the new drum corps but that doesn’t mean it’s bad .
What the hell was the cameraman's obsession with the rifle line? Yes, I'm a horn player, but he/she didn't even get the first soloist on tv until the second soloist started to play.
I dont like how now most corps ans some marching bands use a narrator to tell the story of whats happening! blue devils is a fan of doing so. if is they can't tell the story through music, weapons, flags colors, they dont belong on the field competing! god bless good olDCI!!!
Thank for for putting my feelings in words. My band director always has some sort of sound effects or voice over and I hate em. We even have an electric piano in the pit, which is unnecessary. Pull the plug! We also have props and whatnot because apparently, it's what the judges like? That makes me wonder what's wrong with the judges.
STEELFIRE3698 I'm sorry for your band director to make small choices to the show you guys do😁. I'm so glad I went to a poor school where we couldn't afford field props yet every year we still had great shows and and we would win first with sweepstakes! but best of luck to you guys. do you have any vids of your guys performance on TH-cam? I'd like to see
Corps and Marching Bands should never be in the same sentence....i cant go to corps shows anymore....but im old school..my first spectator show was '78 Midwest in Whitewater....they were all there including west coast...marched '80 PR.
I agree. I don't get what all the fuss was about New York State of Mind. Many people said it was Madison's best closer of all time. I wasn't moved by it at all.
Another glimpse into what would become the "jobbed" POWERHOUSE of 1981 ... SO MANY PEOPLE saw them tear up Whitewater on PBS in 1981 (because DCI could not secure the rights to get Championships in Montreal televised, so they brought PBS to Whitewater a week early for the 10th year "celebration" ... Third place a week later in Montreal?!? HELL NO!!!!!
Yea,, you seen every thing with the feet ect. with those. No getting away with sloppy B/S... To me ,, the Scouts ain't the Scouts,, with out the classic Uniforms & the ''Spats'.
Dang man for real...what happened to DCI??!! 1988 is high brassy and bright, balanced and rehearsed...1980 has a darker more mature sound, more natural and raw talent. but the voicing and arrangement of voicing is sometimes unbalanced. 1988 was built to entertain and win with its gimmicks, like a Spielberg film...But the pure straight ahead blast of 1980 is refreshing...the soloists in 1980 were just amazing controlling the high notes with such precision and command--bending and coloring their high note riffs...
88 Scout Quad player here. I had the privilege of being educated y Dave and Chris plus other from the 80 and 75 scouts. Was and honor learning from them. They were robbed in 1980 DCIs do to an impartial judge who admitted to marking mistakes that didn’t exist. 1995/96 years I had the pleasure of being ask to help the quad line on mag.
This was back when we had, real, drum and bugle c o r p s. In my opinion, DCI has turned the activity, into a marching band competition, superimposed on the three-ring circus. Today is December 5th 2022. The pricing to tour, is through the roof as well as the dues. When does it grow and bugle Corps, have electric, guitars, keyboard instruments, a zillion xylophone instruments, trombones, PA systems, people narrating what they're trying to show to the audience, what's happening on the field. Plus dancing and prancing, groomers are juggling rather than playing, all sorts of body English, no more uniforms all costumes. And they say the activity has to advance with the times. Well how about we apply that same logic to football and baseball. We need to stop referring to it as Drum Corps International, and start calling it, marching band International. Call it what it really is. One time he had approximately 7,000 drum and bugle c o r p s, they all want M&M but many were, others were strictly for parade, standstill competition exhibitions. Today there are less than 12 that are even active, and again they are not drum c o r p s. They are marching bands. We no longer have, Real Drum and bugle Corps. May they all rest in peace. Even the crowds have shrunken down next to nothing at the DCI finals, most people are not interested in seeing the band they want to see a real Drum Corps. Former member of the Long Island sunrises, we were a real drum and bugle Corps. That's one other thing, DCI has never encouraged the kids, after they age out to join a senior, Drum Corps. That would have perpetuated the activity like it did years ago.
DCI, bring back the old days. No more dancing, props, goofy stuff. Please. Rifle line!!🥰
This is what DCI should always be! My god! 😮
Holy shit, the rifles are OUTSTANDING!
Yeah, it was a different style back then that I so appreciate. 2-7 always had a really good rifle line too. I know a lot of people do not care for what colorguard has become. I love it when I see something new. CC and Boston with Townsend and of course BD (not as much of late but they are always on their A game),
Given the emphasis on guard dance we may never witness rifle work like this again
As a snare drummer, for some reason I find it strange to say that the color guard was bad ass in this show. I've never really bothered to pay attention to what they were doing. But on this show, I'm glad I did...just absolutely amazing.
Madison guard was the schnitz for a long time.
Scouts guard was on fire here, but nothing beats mid-90s scouts guard!
Hard to miss the rifles in this video, they were on screen for so long.
2 of my friends matched Spirit and our Director took us to Birmingham. I have never forgotten how amazing and high the Rifles got
Was on the field that hot
August night in Birmingham. 37-years later my ears are still ringing. Marched off the field that night and haven't attended a show since.
Dude....you might have tenitis
R/ wooosh
Hey me too! Marched Spirit (snare). I thought my ears were the only ones ringing. Hey at least we can hear at our age! Ha!!
I was in the audience. You guys were awesome!!
Madison is known for their passion and power. This a great example of their great wall of sound. Simply maginificent.
Bb horns have a band sound, loud and full. "G" bugle is a rip your face off loud ! ! brass players like these guys can do it and still get a superior quality sound.
The average musician today is probably far better today from a technical standpoint and all of the charts are written to demonstrate technical skill and I enjoy and marvel at what they do musically, but I miss the sound and volume of the G horns. I never found them hard to play or hard to get a quality sound out of them but they were definitely not like playing a trumpet. Gawd, I miss that feeling.
Was the best !
That color guard was PHENOMENAL!!! Holy cow!
Totally captivating!!! Wow!!! The 1980 Madison Scouts rocked the house! I miss the good ole’ days!
I agree, that's when we still had, real, drum and bugle Corps.
I absolutely agree!
Damn, color guard was incredible! Love the DCI from the 80s.
wow that rifle line...nothing like that present day..I've sat here and watched it 10 times in a row..
Don't see stuff like that anymore. I was blessed to have marched from 76 - 80'. Those shows & sounds back then would just knock your socks off !!... Didn't need ''wimpy'' Transducer mics attached to the Bells of the horns either.. Those actual Valve /rotor or 2 valve ''Bugles'',, no way needed any help projecting sound.... Now they use ''band'' Trombones also ect... ''Really'' ??
Just watched this AGAIN!!! There really was nothing like the old "park and bark". And yes, I'm old school. But still love drum corps. The crowd loved having their faces melted off by the power corps, though!!
those were my exact words, "park and bark" . . . . especially the ending.
That shout chorus is the epitome of what that G-bugle era drum corps was, and Madison Scouts did it as well as anyone. "We're gonna line up as close to you as they're gonna let us and let you have it...and you'll beg for more". Totally selling out in an orgiastic frenzy of acoustic musical instruments. Selling out like that did lose points in precision and refinement which sadly is the end-all in today's dci. Even then, this era Madison would seldom break the top 5 because of it, and we LOVED them for it. But this was about overwhelming the senses, not elevating them. That's what the friggin' Vienna Philharmonic is for. Oh, and the rifles, lordy!
Amazing rifle section! That was a show in itself. Hornline is terrific as well!
We need marching Timpani back, I need it by Monday.
I agree. They add good visual. Go timps
Best I can do is Tuesday possibly Wednesday
@@dapig3126 not good enough. You're out!
What time Monday and what color?
Hahahahahaha 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Effing brilliant. Just... brilliant.
Damn, tight sound and musicianship. And that rifle section...total boss! Every now and then I hit youtube to get my DCI fix. Love watching the "classic" DCI shows since i was first introduced to them when I was 15 back in 1842 (ok, 1978). Madison Scouts and Blue Devils have always been favorites of mine. Still enjoy listening to this arrangement of Malaguena.
WOW - 88 was always my benchmark for Malaguena but WOW - this version smokes!!! Thank you to the video producer who stayed on the rifles to capture what they were doing for an extended period! DANG!!!
Fantastic performance. And I love the spats - too bad you don’t see that anymore.
You don't see real drum and bugle Corps anymore either, you only see marching bands it's a whole different animal
I love to watch the Rifle line. They have always been the best in my book. I remember watching them use two rifles one season. Thier hand placement on tosses and all moves is so there. Always together.
O my goodness this; those rifles!
What makes the rifle line so outstanding is their skill level (for that time) and the fact that they appear cloned. Clones in style, technique, and even posture. Old school classic!
Man these guys just went for it here. That whole sop section went bananas at the end.
I remember this performance! I marched with Memphis Blues Brass Band that year. Gave me chills then, gives me chills now. What an amazing time for Drum Corps that was!
Amen there !
WOW that rifle line.
Yes, I like their more Military Precision.
@@jeffreydancinger2875 Madison Scouts were once very closely associated with a Boy Scout Troup, and up until a certain time, ALL the members of the Madison core were male, and yes the color guard and even the rifle work in this one is supperb.
In 1980 the Scout's rifle line were the rock stars of DCI. There were lots of good rifle lines (Guardsmen, 27, BD, (SCV - even with the bed posts) but Madison was doing amazing stuff and they were always tight, hence the snap.
@@kevinkelley3657 They are/ were a Boy Scout Troop. They have/had a charter as do The Cavaliers
Awesome old school DCI! Fantastic sound and tons of passion. Rifle line had a unique style that was extremely consistent from member to member, almost like clones, and with incredible precision. This video and Madison's Empire State of Mind video give me chills.
It's 2024 and I saw that show live! in 1980. This Madison Scouts version of Malaguena and the whole show still stands the test of time as one of the best ever. This was the epitome of the late 70's into the mid-80's era of power corps.
Drum corps is good placement for a young person looking for identity community and love.
Why is the rifle line like 200x cooler than anything I've ever seen in modern show?
2 1/2 octave xylophone weight so old school!!!!!! I don't miss carring that around
1980 was a great year !
GOD I LOVE REAL DRUM CORPS!!!
Word. No amount of amplification, electronics, trombones, set design or narration can replace the body, timbre, shear volume and brass-balls of a good G Bugle line.
@@jsf1212 as a professional trombonist, I COMPLETELY AGREE! They're meant for indoors. Don't think I'd want to be trapped in a small to medium sized room with 20 angry baritone bugles. Ummm, maybe I would, just once.
Funny, part of Scouts lore is helping kill drum corps (other corps had t-shirts made declaring the death of drum corps)...in 1971.
@@jsf1212 +1
Still takes my breath away to see them! I competed against them in the 60s. Now a 70 yr old woman thrilled to see these legends go on! Hard work kids, but ya kill it out there on that field as always! Favorite corps EVER! I was in Drum Corps with Chris Tomsa & I believe some of you will know who that man is. His older sister, Tina, (RIP) and I were besties in the day & traveled every mile with her & our families. GOD BLESS YOU ALL!
You don't see SNAP like this today!!!
Nope.
colorguard took my breath away!!! good ol dci
Thank you so much for posting this!! I was a member of a smaller Corps that was on tour with Madison that summer. I got to see their show every night for weeks on end. Malaguena was always my fave part of their show.
Back when drum corps was drum corps 😁❤️😎! This was what I fell in love with ❤️!
I have an immense affection for the Kenton “Malagueña” - we performed it for our concert-number later that year 😁!
I was on mellophone, and we got the Bluesy countermelody - we were a bit more loosey-goosey than Madison’s horn-line, a bit more unhinged 😎 (our band director wasn’t too happy about that 😅).
And … what can you say about Madison’s rifle-line? 😁 Mechanized perfection, rendered in flesh and blood 😁❤️😎!
I was here in 1981 at Legion Field to watch DCI and I believe Southwind Drum and Bugle Corps performed their first of many tours that year. I recall a heavy rainfall before the performances and it seemed likely that it was all going to be cancelled, but finally the weather let up and the competition began.
Great show. Was lucky enough to be in the stands.
Powerful performance! Crazy rifles!
The video director obviously loved the riffles.
It's not like the rest of the corps was moving around that much. I think there was about 24 bars of standing there.
There used to be a concert tune where the corps moved little and the guard was featured. This appears to be it.
I'm glad he captured the Madison rifles at their peak for posterity's sake.
Jesus, Mary, and Joseph that was wow...xD anyone else see that guy go all out on the cowbell?? wow great work!
Good Lord, this show was 🔥🔥🔥
One of my favorite charts by them. AWESOME!!
Seen a comment on another Scout Vid., where a person said that Corps back then looked 'stupid''...
I marched back then till 80',, & my reply to that person was,, ''how old are you?''..
Pissed me off actually,, & I bet that person isn't even old enough to have been a part of, or witness,, to that epic stuff & times back then.
I really think this was one of the cleaner performances of this classic, well articulated ! not that the other years were NOT clean, just this one had that "extra crispy" flaver to it !
Good ol days. Scouts, along with Phantom Regimemt, SCV, Blue Devils, Wausau Story, Blue Stars, St. Paul Scouts were among my favs. Went to DCI nationals twice. Memories 1976-1979.
These kids in these small ( or large) high school bands need to watch these older videos of how a show should be done.
If you as a person, do not understand why EMPIRE State of Mind was not a phenomenal closer, you need to go back and watch that show. It was describing the events of September 11, 2001. The reason why the closer was so good was because it was a very incredible depiction of the human spirit. It wasn't just for show, a lot of those men are were old enough to remember that day very clearly, and I wouldn't be surprised if a few of them lost someone they knew in the attacks.
People of every age, race, and gender were crying when they finished performing in 2011.
you know this is good when the cowbell is banging it like theres now tomorrow
Thanks for the memories! Saw these boys in Port Huron Michigan that year.
I was in HS Band wayyyy back from '75-'79 and this Corps just gave me chills! I got to be a Drum Major my Jr and Sr years...Head Drum Major Sr (still can't figure out how I didn't get it Jr year considering who beat me out lol)yr and thanks to our HS Marching Band being so big and strong, I got to often direct like the DC DMs and it was a freakin thrill ride! I was always drenched with sweat and gasping for air once we left the field! Maddison Scouts were my first crush, even though I lived far far from Wisconsin lol. This old school stuff is still the best as I see it....still get a kick watching those Percussionists lugging those huge Tympani Drums around lol. I certainly miss marching and directing! In College I finally got to dress close to the style of the Scouts! If I could today, I'd be right back on that podium...or whatever there may be...Throwing myself into those powerful pieces, nearly losing my shit lol.
these dudes are going hog wild
Excellent rifles!!! Wow!
From about 3:40 on, the melephones, along with some of the baritones are absolutely killin it with very high running licks. I once was a very accomplished clarinet player,(my junior year, the director tuned the entire band off of me). I Had zero help from my band directors, I played on a rico 2 1/2 reed until sometime in my 10th grade year, when by chance, I went into a music store to buy some reeds(I had always bought reeds from my directors, and they always sold me rico 2 1/2 reeds, these are good reeds for beginers, but they are horrible reeds for a stud 9th grader, or above). Anyways, a beginner should play on a rico 2 1/2 for a year or two, then more capable players should move to a rico 3, or a La Voz Med. Hard. My sound came alive on the La Vox Med Hard reeds. I could actually project as a good clarinet picker should. If I had been at a larger schools, I would have had a woodwind instructor who would have know what me and my fellow players needed. Three of my directors were brass players, one was a drummer. All my directors took the view that woodwinds filled out the marching band, and they helped the concert band, a little bit. Turns out, a clarinet, with the proper reed, should be the 2nd loudest instrument in a band, almost even with a good trumpet. Makes me wish I could go back and play low brass.
Was there...great memories. My brother was a melaphone. Thanks for sharing. Brings back great memories from that summer on tour.
I can only guess that the camera man must have been in a rifle line somewhere.
I was THERE, and saw/heard this. EVERY section fits together into a WHOLE that is 'mind-blowing.' Honestly - I SERIOUSLY don't think you're going to find a better version of "Malaguena" ANYWHERE. Yes, you may find "different" versions. But "Better"? NO, I DON'T THINK SO!!
I marched in DCA with the Reading Buccaneers from 1975 thru 1979. I always preferred the sound of the G-Bugle, with either two or three valves. I thought the sound was brilliant and bright, and, when corps moved from the piston-rotary combination to two piston valves, the horn was easier to keep in tune and play. To me, the G-bugle defined drum corps.
In 1999, when the first allowed the Bb and F horns in DCI, Drum Corps basically became a band without woodwinds. I liked the fuller, warmer sound, but it was just not drum corps. They are already using trombones and french horns. It won't be long before you see saxophones out there.
It will be a LONG time before you see any woodwinds (if ever) on the Drum Corps field. You might be old school but things evolved so that the activity can survive.
Ok everyone shut up about 2 v. 3 valve bugles and let's all talk about that **flawless** behind the back rifle catch at 2:04.... I mean really?? Wow.
The Almighty Algorithm is giving me daily Classic DCI and I am thankful. All Hail the Almighty Algorithm and the G Bugle.
sumpahhhhhh sukak sama power guardnyaa 😍😍😍😍😘😘😘
It's amazing what you can do standing still........
incredible timing
At about 3:40, is that guy marching a cowbell?!
Yes. I see two, one on either side of the 50 yard line.
epic shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A band played this at BOA st louis this year and got the three trumpet soloists near the emd to come play with them
They were called ''Sopranos''.
@@I7435ICnowadays they're called trumpets
🎺😎👍 REAL DRUM CORPS !!!!!!!!!
Funny, part of Scouts lore is killing drum corps with dancing characters (other corps had t-shirts made declaring the death of drum corps)...in 1971.
The Birmingham broadcasts notable for how the high angle shots hardly ever stretched beyond the 40s no matter what the drill spread
People talk about the 1988 version Scouts did of "Malaguena", but personally I have always prefered their 1980 arrangement.
1981 was no slouch, either.
Perry Smith was great. I had to hear the solo every day.
I love dca
Little sop player at end I’m sure he’s in the reunion band .
This was when "Drum Corps" was really "Drum Corps!" The "Good Ole Days."
Funny, part of Scouts lore is killing drum corps...in 1971.
Was it common back then not to have a front ensemble? EVERYONE was marching?
Yep.
Correct! There was no “pit” back then, and the sport was better for it!
You have to remember that drum-and-bugle-corps had its beginnings in the *military*, and when a field unit moves, it takes everything with it, man-carried.
If DCI ever wants to impress me, they’ll get rid of the pit, and go back to valve-and-trigger G bugles! 😁❤️😎
The famed ‘88 version had a better drill, but I think this ‘80 had a better arrangement and rifle line! Raw power and grunt.
When I hear that first brass entrance always gives me chills!
Back when Drum Corp was fun!
Damn, I miss drum corps.
Quarantine has me watching all the classics 😂
@@julianbright2736 Word. Although I meant that this was drum corps. I have no idea what you call what it has become.
jsf1212 look man, I appreciate all eras of drum corps including now. Everything changes and not everyone likes change . I’m pretty sure if the drum corps now started in the 60s and evolved to this era of drum corps, there would still be a lot of haters . Yes you may not like the new drum corps but that doesn’t mean it’s bad .
@@jsf1212 Trying to figure that one out myself,, even though the 2022 Phantom performance hit it out of the park with ''old school'' flair.
What the hell was the cameraman's obsession with the rifle line? Yes, I'm a horn player, but he/she didn't even get the first soloist on tv until the second soloist started to play.
Good stuff. 🧡
He was on of the timpani players. They set their drums down so 1 guy could play all 4 timp while the 3 others played auxiliarry percussion.
classic
They sound tighter than 96.
You see the rifles because they were having tech problems up stairs....it finally works half way
It was great and all...but I GOTTA have more COWBELL!
Color guard actually has my attention for once
I just developed VERTIGO at 3:52 - 4:00
LOLOLOLOL. JK Brothers.
MYNWA '99
Was this a Jim Ott book?
+agogobell28 Yes, Jim Ott wrote the horn book for '80 Scouts.
I think Cadets 2003 was fuller and tighter, but those Madison rifles and solos, tho....
I dont like how now most corps ans some marching bands use a narrator to tell the story of whats happening! blue devils is a fan of doing so. if is they can't tell the story through music, weapons, flags colors, they dont belong on the field competing! god bless good olDCI!!!
Thank for for putting my feelings in words. My band director always has some sort of sound effects or voice over and I hate em. We even have an electric piano in the pit, which is unnecessary. Pull the plug! We also have props and whatnot because apparently, it's what the judges like? That makes me wonder what's wrong with the judges.
STEELFIRE3698 I'm sorry for your band director to make small choices to the show you guys do😁. I'm so glad I went to a poor school where we couldn't afford field props yet every year we still had great shows and and we would win first with sweepstakes! but best of luck to you guys. do you have any vids of your guys performance on TH-cam? I'd like to see
Corps and Marching Bands should never be in the same sentence....i cant go to corps shows anymore....but im old school..my first spectator show was '78 Midwest in Whitewater....they were all there including west coast...marched '80 PR.
I heard Perry Smith's solo but didn't see him. What's up with that?
I agree. I don't get what all the fuss was about New York State of Mind. Many people said it was Madison's best closer of all time. I wasn't moved by it at all.
Another glimpse into what would become the "jobbed" POWERHOUSE of 1981 ... SO MANY PEOPLE saw them tear up Whitewater on PBS in 1981 (because DCI could not secure the rights to get Championships in Montreal televised, so they brought PBS to Whitewater a week early for the 10th year "celebration" ...
Third place a week later in Montreal?!? HELL NO!!!!!
Nice to see spats. Unfortunate that corps gave up on them. Too revealing
Yea,, you seen every thing with the feet ect. with those. No getting away with sloppy B/S... To me ,, the Scouts ain't the Scouts,, with out the classic Uniforms & the ''Spats'.
Dang man for real...what happened to DCI??!!
1988 is high brassy and bright, balanced and rehearsed...1980 has a darker more mature sound, more natural and raw talent. but the voicing and arrangement of voicing is sometimes unbalanced.
1988 was built to entertain and win with its gimmicks, like a Spielberg film...But the pure straight ahead blast of 1980 is refreshing...the soloists in 1980 were just amazing controlling the high notes with such precision and command--bending and coloring their high note riffs...
It was a special time
It was the Camelot era of Drum Corps!
What are dci fans
88 Scout Quad player here. I had the privilege of being educated y Dave and Chris plus other from the 80 and 75 scouts. Was and honor learning from them. They were robbed in 1980 DCIs do to an impartial judge who admitted to marking mistakes that didn’t exist. 1995/96 years I had the pleasure of being ask to help the quad line on mag.
That has to be the best pit I've ever heard. ;P
There was no pit in 80. They marched along with the rest of the drum line.
*BALLS*
Ok, we get it, they have a good rifle line. Can we see something else, please?
when you’re band had 350+ students and no rifle line 😪
4:26 tho
This was back when we had, real, drum and bugle c o r p s. In my opinion, DCI has turned the activity, into a marching band competition, superimposed on the three-ring circus. Today is December 5th 2022. The pricing to tour, is through the roof as well as the dues. When does it grow and bugle Corps, have electric, guitars, keyboard instruments, a zillion xylophone instruments, trombones, PA systems, people narrating what they're trying to show to the audience, what's happening on the field. Plus dancing and prancing, groomers are juggling rather than playing, all sorts of body English, no more uniforms all costumes. And they say the activity has to advance with the times. Well how about we apply that same logic to football and baseball. We need to stop referring to it as Drum Corps International, and start calling it, marching band International. Call it what it really is. One time he had approximately 7,000 drum and bugle c o r p s, they all want M&M but many were, others were strictly for parade, standstill competition exhibitions. Today there are less than 12 that are even active, and again they are not drum c o r p s. They are marching bands. We no longer have, Real Drum and bugle Corps. May they all rest in peace. Even the crowds have shrunken down next to nothing at the DCI finals, most people are not interested in seeing the band they want to see a real Drum Corps. Former member of the Long Island sunrises, we were a real drum and bugle Corps. That's one other thing, DCI has never encouraged the kids, after they age out to join a senior, Drum Corps. That would have perpetuated the activity like it did years ago.
Malagueña: Spanish for *_BALLS_*
Oh those poor Timpanists backs…