Propex HeatSource HS2000 forced air heater review
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- This is a short thorough review on the Propex HeatSource HS2000 model heater (Aka Propex HS2000) that I bought to use in the Expedition trailer that I'm building. Please leave me any questions you may have I'll try my best to answer.
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Super nice informative video. The best I have seen on TH-cam re : this heater. Thank you for not using music in this video. I’m a firm believer in not using music in informational videos.
Finally someone who makes through and detail explanations
Thanks ALOT!
Top video mate
Very informative and thorough review. You are quite correct, these units are very common over here in the UK and are routinely installed in camper vans and trailers (we call them "caravans" over here). Catalytic type heaters that exhaust combustion gases into the living space are more or less obsolete these days and are frowned upon and actually illegal on boats. Diesel fired units such as Webasto or Espar are more popular on boats due to ready supply of diesel fuel (much cheaper than propane/butane) and ability to install them inside engine spaces out of the way so their higher noise level is less of an issue. Many thanks for the interesting review 😊.
Answered so many questions for me, thanks buddy.
You're very welcome. Glad it has helped so many people.
I just bought a Dickinson Marine propane heater for my little RV but somehow ended up looking at your video again. I just want to say it's nice that you did follow ups of the Propex and took the time to answer people's questions. So, again, you did a nice job of presenting this heater and did a great follow through.
I went with the Dickinson primarily because it can be used as a totally passive system electronically. It does have a small very quiet blower but can also be used with the fan on "off" so energy consumption (electricity) is zero. Plus it has a glass door which gives the device a fireplace-like appearance. I have not set it up yet but an anxious to do so and give it a try in the real world.
In terms of noisiness, if I remember correctly there is insulated ductwork that can be installed on the Propex which significantly diminishes the sound of the blower.
I just checked out the heater you're talking about. It really looks awesome and now that you mention that it can run solely on propane without the fan turned on that makes it seem like a much better deal. I chose the propex or my trailer because I had to route ducting from the inside of the trailer to the roof top tent. But if I had an enclosed trailer I think I would much rather prefer something nice looking like yours where you can get that fireplace feel.
Thank you so much your video was very informative; answered many questions I had.
You're welcome.
Thanks for covering this! planning a van conversion, this would be perfect! Also I support small channels!
Just built a cargo trailer and used this heater. Works perfectly and keeps me warm in the winter.
Yea those tiny heaters work great dont they!
Thank you!!! This is awesome. I'm looking to heat my Little Guy teardrop camper. This will work perfectly!!
great job..I got one of those...and this was very helpful...I can't believe Propex doesn't have a go install video...yours was very good...
Hey I appreciate the feedback. I was fed up with not finding stuff onlne and I figured I cant possibly be the only one in this situation. So I made the video hoping to help others. I'm glad it helped.
Thank you, will be buying one and needed set up explained. Thanks
Thanks for sharing, good info. 100 + degree temperature rise over ambient is great! Of course I do understand that you're starting at a warm temperature, but even in a colder environment, with the heater recycling warmed interior cabin air, it should make the space quite warm.
Great video, very helpful, Thanks
Been looking for heat sources, I have a minivan. I wont use the diesel, can't tolerate the oil smell. (PTSD). Great to see there is an alternative to the diesel. This seems awesome but out of reach as for price. On a fixed income so not realistic for now. Great video though and i will work at having one, you convinced me! Lol.
Great to hear you have an alternative. I'll have you know that I have used this heater in 30-40° weather and it has been all the way up to 86° inside the tent. So this thing works amazing. I'm sure in an enclosed vehicle like your minivan it would definitely hold the heat much better then my cvt tent
Thanks for uploading this video... very informative... I will have to look at your other videos now.. starting with the shower installation... If you have done one on that. :-)
How hot did the exhaust pipe get? Thanks for the information on the propex heater. Great job.
very informative thanks for all the details. were you happy with it over all?
How loud is the exhaust? Hard to tell from the video. Looking to install this on a stealth campervan in the city. Would people notice the noise?
Hi there. Well you can hear the air blowing but honestly I dont think it is that much of a bother. It's not super loud compared to some neighboring campers or outside sounds. We used this heater for a 2 week road trip in November and we ran it full blast every day it did really well and that's in a roof top tent. I'm sure it will do much better in a camper.
@@RedethMusic right on, thank you.
Around 60 decibels on the bench, but we sell acoustic duct and muffler than drops it to a whisper. propexusa.com
Thanks for a nice video!
My unit didn't come with the input elbow and I couldn't find one. Do you still have yours and if so could I buy from you?
Hi! What size regulator do you use? High pressure or low pressure. Do the directions tell you? Ordered mine about five days ago and arriving tomorrow and ready to install in my lawn tractor and want to make sure I have all the answers. Thanks, Bill
What fittings did you use to hook up to flexible gas lines?
Can you mount it on its side? I don't want to route intake/exhaust thru floor. The manual says nothing.
Txs great video. Does the metal box get to hot to the touch?
Great information. Have you tested it at a high altitude? I have heard that Wabasto for example fails at high altitudes. Diesel fuels get jelly, so you need to have the gas tank inside your van. I am not so keen on that.
20 lbs cyl , is mostly filled to 18 lbs and as low as 15 lbs .
Does the cover of the heater get hot? How warm or hot it gets, do you remember? I am thinking of how much airpsace to leave around the unit within the enclosing box.
Headed to Big Bear this weekend!
Do you have a link to step by step directions for installing a propex?
very useful thank you
did you have to get a copper fitting to put the hose onto the back?
1) Where did you buy it? Curious if you are in the USA...because none of my dealers sell on eBay. 2) Requires a 2-stage regulator 3) is that white tape on the gas fitting? use only gas tape (yellow) or paste, plus the 'Home Depot' fitting is not the correct thread for the heater inlet. It uses BSPT thread, different pitch from US-NPT.
Thanks for the video. Does the fan run nonstop when the heater is on? Or does the fan turn off automatically once the heater is up to temp? Not sure if those questions make sense.
it runs continuously
Thanks for the great review and numbers. Silly that such an expensive unit comes with a thermostat with no digits for temperature whatsoever. lol
I agree with you 100%. Definitely should have included a digital thermostat for what I paid for lol
Thank you very informative. I have the 2800 in the mail in it's way. And I was thinking I may need to supplement hearing for a 250 sqf tiny house. But after seeing your video maybe not at 190 degree heat coming out...what do you think?
The 2800 output is about 330 F.
very helpful man! thank you. how is it working on year 8? lol :) still going strong?
It still works whenever we need it turned on. I used it about 3x per year the first few years. Then we moved out to Oregon and we have only been able to get about 1 use out of it per year. But it still turns on when needed so that's all that matters to me.
Could you show the finished installation of your heater , ducked work and the rest of you’re rig . So far looks Awesome
Check out my instagram channel. My user name is "Redeth005" I have everything I have ever done including the installation onto the trailer.
@@RedethMusic Might sound old school but... I'm watching you on TH-cam now, that's where I want to see replies! Not Instagram!
The fan running after switch-off doesn't just purge the gases it also gets rid of excess heat building up in the heat exchanger. That's why it ran for so long in your hot, sunny demo. :) These units use around 130 gm of propane an hour - pretty economical considering how hot they get.
The gas valve shuts off the moment the switch is turned off, the cool down is set at 3 minutes which is what it was determined was necessary to drop the temp from 200 F to close to ambient.
Hi. Nice review. Does the burnt gaz hose hot? I have styrofoam in my floor... don t want it to melt. Thanks
I just got done trying it recently and I can tell you that yes it does get hot. May I suggest using a type of insulation. I found that SureMarineService.com has lots of items that you can used for this heater. Maybe they will have exactly what you need to save your Styrofoam in the floor.
your the first person with a full review of this heater my question is who installs this and were can I purchase one at
RamVan Bobby Thank you. I finally had the chance to try it out in cold weather and it was fantastic! you can't go wrong with it. To answer your question, I bought mine off a vendor on eBay but i highly recommend buying it from "Sure Marine Service" online. I've bought a few items for my trailer on that site and they usually ship out fairly quick. hope this helps
RamVan Bobby forgot to add a link. here ya go. www.suremarineservice.com/propex-propane-forced-air-heaters.aspx
RamVan Bobby The box that the heater comes in has mounting instructions and a paper to show where to cut holes for installation. the only extra thing you would need to buy is the gas regulator/hose. i just use a bbq regulator and it works just fine for me.
That extra cap goes on the intake of the unit. It is so you dont pull anything to big into the intake and cause a fire.
Awesome. 👍Thanks for sharing I'll have to try it out.
One thing you didn't cover was the amount of power it consumes while operating. If your boondocking running off solar you'll need to know these numbers. Something else I noted was the nipple you placed into the back of the heater allowing you to use your #20 propane tank and hose does not have the proper type of thread tape on it. From what I have seen a specific type of tread tape is needed for propane and I believe it is a yellow tape. If I'm wrong please accept my apology I just want you to be safe! Very good review by the way!
thank you for the review. How do you make sure that theintake air for the heater isn't sucking in the CO exhaust air?
There are 2 flexible tubes that attach to the bottom of the heater unit. Each approximately 3 ft long or so. I routed each one to either side of the trailer.
I like the heater. It keeps running so that there's no heat sink. It has to cool itself down to be safe. I love this heater, thanks for the review and measuring the temperature. It was good to hear how quiet it really was and how fast it warmed up. If I can advise you on your video, it would be to mount your camera on a tripod and plan your shoot. When you hand hold the camera you have to do everything one-handed, and there's just way too much camera shake. Set up a tripod and your videos will be so much easier to stomach. You explain it well but its just hard to watch. How did you get the chassis for the trailer? It looks military surplus. Did you ever finish it?
Thanks for the advice. A lot of people mentioned the yellow tape. I didn't know before I have since fixed it. And as for the trailer yes I finished it a little over 3 years ago. It came out great! Search for my Instagram name "Redeth005" I documented the entire build on there.
Great video.
I've been looking for a heater for my little RV (16 footer). The heater in it draws down the battery after only one night's use. A loud and obviously energy consumptive fan. Do you have any idea how long it will take this heater to draw down a 12 volt deep cell battery (I don't know the amp hours etc of the battery but can of course check it tomorrow). Have you given some thought to that?
What I'd really like is something passive that doesn't need current to heat. Older RVs used to have furnaces like that but now I don't know of any that don't use fans.
Like your build.
Raven Feather I haven't installed it onto the trailer to use for a camping trip so I couldn't say for sure. I wouldn't imagine it would consume much because all of the heating is done by the propane. the only electric use is for the flame and for the fan. I would imagine it would finish the propane before the battery lol.
Thanks for the reply. I think you mentioned what it draws so if I check the battery I can probably calculate the amount of time it will power the fan. And how much the fan runs will of course depend upon the thermostat setting and the ambient temperature.
Thanks again for the video. I've been wondering about an alternative to my existing heat system for a long time. This might work.
I had the chance to test out my heater and expedition trailer/tent set up recently and now I can finally answer your question. My Propex HS2000 forced air heater was the main thing i was excited about. It turned our chilly CVT Tent into a toasty sauna. lol i had to mess with the thermostat quite a bit to find a confortable temperature. I'm happy it works as good as it did and it is extreamely battery efficient; The battery voltage only went from about 12.76v to 12.36v after an entire night of running off of just one of my two batteries.(it ran for about 9 hrs straight. Thats hella good if you ask me.
Thanks for the response. Yes, that seems excellent in terms of power usage. And it's nice that it's thermostatically controlled.
Since I originally say your video I became of another propane heater that discharges the exhaust to the exterior. It's called a Dickinson Newport Propane Heater th-cam.com/video/hAOYtsw6VI8/w-d-xo.html.
It's been a bit of a search to find something to replace the very energy consumptive Suburban in my little Scamp.
Thanks again for the response. A way superior video in regard to specifics and response to questions. Nice job.
Is this the us or uk version? The uk version is 14wc gas pressure but the us variant is 11wc. Happen to know which one you have?
thank you so much :)
Hi great video, do you think these heaters would work well in a LWB Mercedes sprinter van?
They use them in camper vans in the UK and Volkswagen vans all around. I would imagine they'd work great in a sprinter van. All u need is on board propane.
hi. can I use the same gas bottle which supplies my portable gas cooker in my camper by adding a T joint into the gas line, and would it affect heater of cooker if the both were running the same time,, many thanks. mike in wales
shunto that's actually how it was designed to be used was with hardlines. and I have seen the "T" used on somebody's TH-cam video before. I personally can't say I would know because I never went this route before. sorry.
shunto I was just thinking the same thing mate
Great video! Do you happen to have a picture of the thermostat wiring, please?
Look my upnon instagram. I have tons of pictures there. And a link on my hone page to my expedition portal build page. You'll see there how the installation was done
@@RedethMusic Will do, thanks! What's your website and Instagram? Cheers
Sorry I thought I had put that down. My instagram is "Redeth005" and on the home page you will see the link to the website for my build.
I installed a Propex HS2000 in a my rig a few years ago and used it for less than 20 hours tops when it failed. I had to pay a technician to uninstall it and then send it to the manufacturer (in England) because there was no local dealer and the factory rep said they wouldn't know what was wrong unless I sent it back. That cost $230. They then quoted me about $200 to replace the unit's logic board, and then I would also have to pay the shipping back because they would not warranty it since it was over a year old. This would amount to about the same cost as a brand new one. I will never buy another Propex product.
just very unlucky .. and not nice in this case they wouldnt repair it for free .. since obviously it wasnt your fault ..
This doesn't add up surely if it was brand new it would be covered under warranty these are tried and tested units that are very reliable
That sucks to hear. I just did a 2600 mile road trip and we used ours for about 8-16 hours per day and ours works great! Not saying it doesnt suck that yours broke down but ours ran just fine each day that we had it. And it definitely kept our 8month old nice and warm.
@Daveswildcamping and you, obviously clueless.
You couldn't find a local electronic engineer who could repair it?... these are rather simple units which could be repaired easily by any competent tech.
Hi, curious what I need to install my heater from the 20lb propane tank to the unit. The instructions are incredibly vague. 30-37mbar?? Around 1/2psi or 10-12 inch water collum. So what regulator do I need etc... ?
James Joyce you need a “2 stage RV Regulator”.
US models are jetted for the US 2-stage regulator, 11" water-column pressure
Great video but a few questions. 1) Does the unit itself get hot and if so how much, thinking of mounting mine under the passenger seat in my Transit van, 2) I'm assuming the exhaust pipe does get hot, if so how is it insulated from the surrounding hole in the floor, last thing I want to do is set fire to my wood subfloor or anything else, 3) Is it necessary to shut off the propane tank valve like you did when not in use, seems like a hassle, 4) I see you used a flexible gas line, I'm still learning propane installation but I'm under the impression a solid line secured every 10-12 inches must be used when inside a vehicle, Yes/no, 5) It looked like you used white teflon tape on you're brass fitting and I believe yellow is required for gas fittings? These last two may differ from the states and the UK, not sure where your at.
Thanks for the help
1) Unit does not get hot at all, I store a plastic bin on top of it
2) Hole size is 40mm, pipe is smaller, use caulk made for fireplaces or fireproofing
3) I do not shut tank off
4) Your call on hose vs copper, remember it is low pressure, less than .5 psi, copper is safer but harder to route, I used hose in my van
5) yellow is specifically for gas but some white tape is compliant and will say so.
ALSO Understand you will need an adapter to convert the BSPT to NPT, get off Ebay etc
You can contact me, the US distributor, at propexusa.com , I'll answer all of your questions.
How long will the heater run on your optima battery? Can you run it continuously through the night without your battery dropping below 11.4 volts?
Yes! I have ran it on high without my solar charging system installed and it lasted all night till I turned it off when I woke up. As for now I have a 5.56amp 100watt solar panel that I have paired with my battery bank and it never goes below 12v.
What does 1.4 running amps, convert to for usage on a 12v optima yellow top battery?
How many hours can it run with the heat on before it drains the battery?
Consumption is actually 1.9A, misprint.
Watts = Volts * Amps. So, this device is 1.9 amps at 12v... or about 24 watts. Your battery should be rated in watt hours or amp hours. For example, if your battery says it is 100 amp hours then you would just take about 40 or 50 and divide by 1.9. That will tell you how many hours it will run it. I say 40 or 50 since I'm assuming your battery is an AGM... those you don't want to run below 50% charge... I never run mine below 60% if I can help it. If your battery says it is 600 watt hours then you would divide about 300 (50% of 600) by 24 (the wattage the device uses). Hope this helps.
P.S. Also remember that this thing has a thermostat. So, it won't necessarily be running 24/7. So, if your calculation says it will run it for 20 hours... that could actually be several days before you would need to recharge.
Hi thanks for a great video. How many amps per hour does it draw out of the batter? If your wild camping will it drain your battery really fast?
ok i got it from your video. Thanks
i finally had a chance to test it out recently and to answer your question not much at all. i used this heater for almost 9 hours straight and my battery only went from 12.76v to about 12.36v this is without any solar panel or vehicle to recharge the battery. it is very efficient. and I'm sure it can definitely last a few nights of heating without having to recharge..
Thank you very much. A great response. So can you or anyone else recommend a battery spec/set-up to wild camp while using this propex heater for 3 continuous nights. During the day i have the option to charge with a 150watt solar panel or use a log burner.? Any advise would be most appreciated. Need to stay warm for a European winter.
James Hodge I had lots of people recommend Odyssey batteries and others say 6v golf cart batteries are the way to go. but i have honestly never had much luck with traditional acid batteries. Not to mention maintaining the batteries. I have been sold on Optima batteries on all my vehicles and they've never let me down. So due tot hat reason I chose to use two Blue top Optima marine deep cycle batteries. I feel they work well. but im sure you'd do fine using any other deep cycle batteries. i see tons of people using Odyssey batteries though. I'm sure they must be good. i am just loyal to brand I guess.
RedethMusic great stuff. I will go ahead and check out your opinion. Thanks for your messages. Best regards
So if I have a 5 pound propane tank, how long would I be able to run the propex heater?
Honestly. I really don't know. I don't work for the company. But all the info I spoke about during the video I found online. I had a 5lb tank that I would use before it expired. But to tell you the truth i never ran it enough to make it run out of gas. Then again I also take a 10lb with me just in case each time I camp and usually keep that connected to the grill. Alot of factors go into it too. How hot you put the thermostat. How often it goes off. Are you running other things on the same tank such as a propane lantern off a tree connector or a heated shower all of which I usually run every day I camp.
You mentioned the 12v to start it...doesn't the fan - blower motor run off the battery also...?...Good video thanks
Well yes. 12v battery. Either way it requires power for the fan to blow and for the ignition to light the internal flame. The heat just comes from the propane.
Also thanks for watching.
Hello,
I just bought one but I don't know what gaz regulator I have to use with it?
I have got a 50 mbar gaz regulator, should that work? If not, please let me know which one I have to use... Thank you
In the US, 11" regulator, in EU, 30 mbar.
I've looked on amazon and they don't sell them there. What distributor in the US did you buy this from? I bet if they sold them on amazon they wouldn't be able to keep them in stock..........
Dog, I'm the US distributor, propexusa.com - we do support several dealers across the US as well, listed on propexheatsource.com
Whats the recommended square footage that the heater is designed for?
the users never reply and they don't answer very many questions...leaves you with unanswered questions ;)
ozone333 Electronic Music I need to look at the user book to give you a clear answer which I don't have on me right now. but these heaters were designed for small spaces. most applications which are used in VW Westfalla vans. and small trailers. I haven't finished my build yet. but once I get my cvt roof top tent and get around to installing the actual heater I will be able to give you a better reply on how well it heats up the small tent space.
mainly there are 2kw heters and 4 kw heaters .. in gas .. so .. ordinairy van is 2kw .. bigger ones 4 kw or more .. .. if you r in cold weather ... get the 4kw for a small van ..
Propex has an official video and they state this model is good to 7 meters aka about 21 feet...
what temperature range will this maintain. If you set it at 70* how close will it maintain this temp? Thanks
Just like your home furnace, it continues to blow to help get as much heat as possible plus helps prevent thermal shock by cooling to quickly
Quite honestly I don't know. Amd it has been a bit since I last camped in the trailer. I will tell you that it can effectively heat my roof top tent consistently all night. Check out my TH-cam short video. I have an explanation on one of them while we camped in pretty cold weather.
I found the video here.
th-cam.com/users/shorts353tIRCSbFM?si=j2AO3pcuVGGekK_b
Also I lied I thought I had more info on the temperature but I thought wrong.
I suppose to better answer your original question. If you were to use it in a completely insulated trailer I'm sure the heater and return duct would be consistent. However I use mine in a canvas tent. So the cold goes through faily quickly so the heater basically stays on all night; at minimal voltage drop as you can see in the video link i posted in the previous comment. I do not think it was very accurate though. It was either too cold or too hot. An easy fix to that was to leave it on the hotter setting and jist unzip a corner of the canvas window and the temp was for the most part within 70-75 degrees all night.
I hope this helped a little.
How does the thermostat work? If I set it to a temp does it heat all night or does it cycle on and off and maintain a specific temp?
Carter Kendall So i have not tried it with a 2nd flex duct. But if you use it then yes. The point is for the heater to shut down then start up when again when it goes below a certain temperature. The time i used the heater with my roof top tent the temperature outside got really cold. And i only used the heater duct hose to riute into the tent bit i didnt have a return duct. And basically the heater ran non stop all night because the heater box was getting a return from outside and not the place it was heating. I hope this helped answer your question. If i had tried out the heater a few more time i would be better able to answer your question. Just know that this thing really works well. It turned our chilly tent into a toasty sauna within a short fee minutes. Then i just turned the temp down and kept it running all night. My RTT is the size of a Ca King Size bed and i have the annex as well. The heater worked very well all night with very little power draw.
RedethMusic so if u had used the intake hose and the output hose in ur RTT it would turn on and off as needed? This must mean the temp gauge is in the air intake which would explain why it stayed on all night for you because it was reading that the air outside was cold all night but if u used both then it would know when the air coming through the intake was reaching the desired temp?
Carter Kendall from my understanding yes. I have seen peoppe using these in VW westfala vans and mini campers and usually what they do is leave the return duct disconnected because usually the people mount these within the space that they want to heat so usually it will just suck in the warmer "in door" heated temp. And that is what makes the thermostat work properly. So what you just said is how i believe it will work. But since i have the RTT i need to pass a duct from my rtt and route it to the return on the heater.
And no telling how long it will run because it will be kicking it off and on and depending on the temperature how much it takes off and on you may be able to run it a week straight or more👍👍👍👍👍
Which pressure regulator do you use?
I use the one that came with my Eccotemp heated shower. Not sure the specs on that though
thanks
Would't be easier and cheaper to install combi boiler like people have in their houses ?
Holy cow cant believe I just saw this lol. Sorry. And I dont think I would install one of those I mean maybe it would make sense in a big ol rv. But for a mini camping trailer like what I am building this just makes alot more sense to use.
is the termostat turns off when gets to the teroerature you want ?
Yes. On this video I only had that one brown hose coming out of the side with the 2 large holes. I actually had to order another ducting tube. And what I do is route both hoses into the tent. One of them blows the air in. The other is a return and the return is what tells the heater unit to turn off when it reaches your temp.
Here is the current set up
th-cam.com/users/shorts353tIRCSbFM?si=2w_B7Qh5QYpPuh7d
Can I upgrade to the new style controller? Where to buy?
That I don't know. But if you find out let me know. I would like to upgrade as well if it's possible.
I didn't see this mentioned in the video. How warm does the body of the heater get? Surface temperature of the case itself that is..
Arai Akunin good question. I didnt really look to see how hot it gets. but I was able to touch it to put it away after making the video so I cant be that hot. I still havent had the time to install the heater onto the trailer yet so I cant turn it on to check for you yet. but even though I was able to touch it I still wouldnt recommend putting flamable or things that melt around it just as a rule of thumb.
I seen these mounted inside cabinets and others on the undercarriage so the surface temperature was something I've been curious for awhile and like you pointed out, as a heat source its the flammable things surrounding it that concern me. .
I had this question also. Mainly, how careful do you have to be in regards to what is around it?
Thanks! I was wondering about the gas line. i didnt like the hard line
No problem man.
I hope it works out for you. I love mine.
Hard line is code for interior use, hose is only ok outside.
Great video. I followed your idea but found that the thread is B.P.P. 1/4" (British thread). You adapter would still work but it would not thread all the way. I noticed that you used Teflon. You need to go to a speciality fitting place to get it, not Home Depot.
Correct. Forcing a US fitting into the BSPT thread of the heater will not seal correctly and if forced distort and crack the connection. Only use yellow teflon or paste.
Would this be the correct adapter to modify this for North American fittings? www.mcmaster.com/1527n15
Some additional information for people trying to understand the different threads for the first time, this is fitting (no pun intended) as it mentions the British standard as well: www.pooleyinc.com/pdf/PipeThreads.pdf
@@nickandersonco Yes this type of fitting is exactly what you need to adapt bsp threads to npt threads, but i would not use an aluminum fitting for this application. i would use brass or steel to prevent corrosion and leaks.
190 f too hot for small tent. Can it go lower?
That is just the top temp it comes out at. I have used this heater on high heat in 38°F weather and it was a toasty 86°f inside. I had to turn it down a bit to about 76 or so. It was really nice. We use ours in a roof top tent all the time.
I wonder if you could hook that thing up to a smart thermostat. like a nest or something.
No, only the Propex thermostat will work.
karloskelly according to the diagram it has all the right wiring to hook up to nest. I think it might actually work. Unless you know something I don't?
Most thermostats act as a switch on/off. The Propex thermostat circuitry has an off, fan, and heat position plus feedback loops for fault codes. The only way something like that might work would be in conjunction with the Propex thermostat - which would be left in the heat position and dial set to the preferred temp - and the 'nest' interrupting the power to the heater. The pig problem with that is that it will not enter the cool-down stage which will be detrimental to the life of the heater. You wouldn't want to interrupt the power to the thermostat as that will cause a surge and blow the surge fuse on the main PCB. If there is something I'm missing here please send a schematic to heatersales@propexusa.com.
good info, I'm kind of disappointed it doesn't use a simple thermostat
Is there any rubber or part smells?
I in all the times ive ever used this unit camping I have never noticed wierd smells coming from it at all.
pretty spendy but looks like a sweet unit.
How much ?
Do you have a link to where to buy???
I think I bought mine on ebay. But I believe there are other options. I have seen these sold on a VW westfalla website before I just dont remember the site. Sorry
how hot does the exhaust pipe get?
You know what. That is one thing I have never checked. I havent touched it before bit I have been near it and it does get very warm. But as far as actually touching it or temperature on the exhaust I havent looked in to that
@@RedethMusic Obviously I have to pass the exhaust through a wooden floor panel in a vehicle, so I need to seal it on the under side... and I need to know how large the hole in the wood needs to be so that it isn't burned by the pipe. Also, it has to pass quite close to a spare wheel, and I don't want to melt the tyre.
Any comments would be appreciated.
@@JamesLewis Oh yea the heater comes with a cutting guide. It kinda looks like a blueprint on paper and it shows you how much you gotta cut it's not much. Also I suggest using some some high heat silicone around the tube where the heater meets the exhaust pipe.
Honestly I dont think it gets very hot at all. I have both my Optima blue top batteries within inches of the heater and I have not had any issues whatsoever ever. Also the wood surrounding the heater is very close and still have not had issues.
Do me a favor. Check out my Instagram pictures. I posted a ton of the pix during and after the installation and I believe I also have some more videos. I think it will give you a way better idea of how everything looks installed and how to do yours. My Instagram channel is "Redeth005"
Also here is a direct link to one of the group of pictures from when I installed the heater. instagram.com/p/BgvHIchnUAs/?igshid=th6n8phqgnn8
How economical are they on a 3.9kg gas tank?
Christian Lewis Photography I'm not sure. I'm not a rep for the company. i just know what I have tested mine with, that being with a 20lb propane tank.
RedethMusic You haven’t used it out in the field yet to get an idea?
@The Iznezz it works great. Tested it out 2 months ago on a 2.5 week road trip from Los Angeles, to Yosimite, Lake Tahoe, Klammath Falls OR, all the way up to Portland's OR then back home through the Redwood Nat'l park in California and back home to Los Angeles. The heater worked amazingly. The lowest the temperatures got while camping was 38-39°F and each day/night that we camped we had to run the heater 10-16 hours. Because temperatures would drop early on in the day and I had an 8 month old baby to keep warm. So we ran this heater ALOT on our trip. We took a 5lb and a 20lb propane tank. And with using the 20 lb tank for about 16 hours straight barely made a dent in the propane meter.
To get you a better idea of propane consumption. We went camping on a different occasion and used the heater for almost 20 conbined hours the entire weekend and on that same propane tank(without refill) we camped at lake tahoe our first night on this most recent trip for 11 hours and we still managed to heat our tent all night and still have a little bit of propane left on the small 5lb tank to cook with that morning. That's approximately 30 hours of heating with just a small 5lb tank!!! After that first day I bought the 20lb tank at a u-Haul store with the propane meter/guage. To give me a more accurate reading on what is left in the tank.
On the Voltage part of this set up the Heater is very economical. Keep in mind I run 2 Optima Blue top deep cycle marine batteries in my trailer as a battery bank; I'm not sure how many 'Amp hours' that translates to. And in the first night of camping we only used 0.8v of energy for the 11 hours that we ran it. That is with no sun to charge my batteries with the solar panel and I still had not ran my Honda generator yet.
The day we ran the heater for 8 hours we ran it for about 4 hours first with no solar charge due to camping in shade from the redwood trees (and it would be dark early in the day; by 4pm) After those first 4 hours I ran the generator to charge it up to 13v so we could go to sleep at 8pm with the batteries on a full charge. That morning we woke up to the batteries at 12.2v so once again it seems to have only had about 0.8v of power drain.
Let me know if you have more questions. I'll try my best to answer. Check me out on INSTAGRAM too I go by Redeth005 and I have posted a few videos from our road trip on there explaining power consumption and how long we ran it for.
@@christianlewisphotography6910 I'm sorry I did not reply I didnt realize I had another comment from you. Please read the comment below to user: The Iznezz"
I do not understand why the the instructions say to make the holes for the intake and exhaust tubes 40mm when the tubes are only just over 22 mm.
i am with you on this. My heater (same one on this video) came with the van I just bought and the holes they made are not 40mm and they were using this heater quite a bit here in england. I bought the van off them and am totally kitting it out and I made holes 30mm in the new wooden floor and they matched the metal holes already cut out by the previous owner. No need at all to make it 40mm. hope this helps
And its not cheap garbage made in China. Made in UK!! Working great for 3 years now, no issues.
Carbon monoxide is the product of incomplete combustion. What you mean to say is (if you get complete combustion) Carbon Dioxide.
Thomas Sleigh thank you for correcting me. I appreciate it.
not a problem. nice detailed video though!
It's interesting how much confusion there is pertaining to the combustion of propane. Researching on-line revealed almost complete contradictions from source to source. One of those suggested the formula for combustion does not actually represent the combustion and bi-products because of the contaminants in propane and singular efficiency of the device being used. So carbon monoxide may be emitted in very small quantities even though the majority of gases emitting are carbon dioxide. So for the average guy whether or not you're getting "complete combustion" in a heating device is largely an unknown.
Which is why I prefer a device that discharges to the exterior (as well as drawing combustion oxygen from the exterior). I've used a Mr Heater for several years and although I never had an issue other than it automatically shutting down at high altitudes I have never felt totally comfortable discharging combustion gases to the interior of my RV. I tend to over-ventilate.
Probably a needless caution but I'm still alive after having used a wide variety of portable heaters. Though I remember waking up in a tent to a strong odor of un-burned gasoline (white gas) after using one of the now obsolete dome-shaped catalytic heaters sold by Coleman. THAT odor was likely the product of incomplete combustion, Which led to an atmosphere comparable to that in an engine cylinder with the piston on it's way to top dead center with the spark plug just about ready to ignite.
Catalytic devices like the Camco heaters do not actually combust the fuel in a way that is commonly understood by using the term combust. In their case there is no fire. The propane is converted to heat by a chemical reaction and no flame is produced. Semantics that go on and on. Way too complex for me and most casual users.
Any updates on the setup?
Oh yes. The heater is great! 👍 I haven't been able to do an update video. But man I love this thing. I can run it all night long and my 2 optima blue top batteries don't even drain under 12v before sun rises. Thanks for asking because I just realized I gotta upload all kinds of video updates for my heater and trailer build. Stay tuned up put some out this week. But just to further answer your question we ran the heater all night one day in 40°F cold in lake Tahoe and it ran for 11hrs and the voltage only went from 13v to 12.1v before the sun was out and charging my charging my batteries through solar panel. I think its great. Thermostat is a bit finicky due to roof top tent walls being canvas obviously so it is hard to adjust to the perfect temperature. But you can adjust heat by unzipping some of the tents window. It's Great man! I recommend it.
I will buy everything and find someone to install it I don't wanna goof it up lol
Good video, but then I saw what looked like white tape on the gas line, BIG NO, NO, should be yellow
lpg gas?
liquefied petroleum gas
What is the price ?
When I have used ones, otherwise $695 ;)
You should have used your multimeter to confirm the amp draw.
Thanks for that. At the point when I made the video I hadnt tested it out in real camping conditions. But I can tell you while this is on it only takes up about 0.3-0.4 amps while its turned on. Hope this helps
Amp draw is 1.9 when running.
Just like the diesel units, only propane.
ok
Propane is too expensive here in Europe. Eberspacher or Alden or Webasto off your fuel tank .
I have a friend to uses the webasto heater. He says it works great! And on top of it I'm sure his tank can definitely outlast my propane tank by a long shot lol. Those are pretty cool. I kinda wish I would have gone that route but i wanted everything to run on propane for my trailer so i kept that in mind when building my trailer.
It's about the same in the US in most areas. Yes, diesel has more btu per gallon - but propane burns much cleaner and requires no maintenance.
buy housewarmer direct vent from Northern Hydraulics no electricity needed
Good information but the video was absolutely brutal to watch.
Glad it was helpful. And sorry I am not a professional cameraman or reviewer. Just did what I could.
you don't want carbon monoxide present cus You don't want to not wake up?...
Sorry this is an old video review. What I mean is you'll get carbon monoxide poisoning while you sleep and you'll pretty much die in your sleep. So that's what I meant by you won't wake up.
You gotta say "overland" cause thats cool. Actually is poser.
Meh... it's just the style of the trailer build. But to each their own opinion. I'm not trying to impress anyone. I know the capabilities of the rig I tow the trailer with so i dont care one bit what others say. But you are right it does sound cool.
Iv got one. Its shit. Not worth the money. Go diesel. Mine never works
Really? I've had mine for about 6 years and I've never had any issues with it.
Would I choose diesel over mine. Heck yea I would if I drove a diesel truck. But for me it just wasn't a good choice since I am already running everything off propane on the trailer. And I didn't want to carry 2 kinds of gasoline while traveling. But either way. I dont use it like crazy but i have used it on and off for multiple camping trips im California and where i am now at PNW in oregon and my propex heater has worked great each time.