Talking about guys drawing coloring books, one time I was in a Dollar General and saw a Bible coloring book and the cover was painted by Earl Norem. Samson was straight-up Conan-ish. Of course I bought it!
Gonna chime in with my experience, about this little strip. Been to multiple schools, 8 years total in different countries for bachelors and masters of fine arts and this fucking strip rips through language and cultural barriers like nothing I’ve seen. The amount of hypocrisy you find in such places is staggering. During graduate school one of the most famous and inspiring teachers was Vincent Desiderio, and he fucking loves this strip, he would call different students ‘joepro’ and the like to mess with us. He’s given lectures and demos you can find on TH-cam where he quotes the comic too. He’s one of the most respected living painters worldwide and the guy is a clowes fan. Respect.🙏❤️🔥
I may have been double a few of my classmates age when I went to SCAD, but I just got out of a ten-year hitch in the Marines!! Cut me a little slack! Lol
Yeah, when I went to school, there were a couple dudes in my classes that were ex-military studying criminal justice or whatever, and they were always rock-solid students. Low profile, just doing their work guys.
I don't regret art school but if I was a teen today, I wouldn't go. At most, take some software and business courses at a community college. There are several tutorials online though, if you're stuck but you either have the hustle or you don't.
My daughter is a very talented artist, and goes to an art-based high school. But now that we’re staring down the barrel of college next year, I am very cautious, to put it mildly
ABSOLUTELY TRUE! The most vocal critics among the students were the ones with the least amount of talent! I think it’s a coping mechanism. Deep down inside they can see they are the least talented and they try and knock others down a peg or two to make themselves feel better. Usually fine arts types that cannot render and have no grasp of the nuts and bolts of illustration. You will find many of them making the Jamocha shakes at Arby’s.
I learned a lot in art school but I went almost twenty years ago and it didn’t cost half as much as it does today. Now, I would try to apprentice with a professional instead.
Would love to see an episode on Jon bogdanove, I know a lot of people don’t like his stuff but his new mutants annual boom boom story is seriously slept on, some of the coolest cartooning I have seen
Flaming Ivan. We named the Cable eye guy Flaming Ivan. Pretty sure we ribbed Voltron so hard in 1-D that he just fucked off, I don't think he was actually expelled.
I know I'm late to the party, but you're better off going to a state district school with a good art program. Way cheaper and better than a dedicated art school imo
Talking about guys drawing coloring books, one time I was in a Dollar General and saw a Bible coloring book and the cover was painted by Earl Norem. Samson was straight-up Conan-ish.
Of course I bought it!
Pratt Institute grad here (class of '91): Mr. Clowes nailed all of it!
I hereby propose that the official way for Kayfabers to part company and say goodbye is "I'll see you at the top!"
That doesn't work for me brother.
Gonna chime in with my experience, about this little strip. Been to multiple schools, 8 years total in different countries for bachelors and masters of fine arts and this fucking strip rips through language and cultural barriers like nothing I’ve seen. The amount of hypocrisy you find in such places is staggering. During graduate school one of the most famous and inspiring teachers was Vincent Desiderio, and he fucking loves this strip, he would call different students ‘joepro’ and the like to mess with us. He’s given lectures and demos you can find on TH-cam where he quotes the comic too. He’s one of the most respected living painters worldwide and the guy is a clowes fan. Respect.🙏❤️🔥
I may have been double a few of my classmates age when I went to SCAD, but I just got out of a ten-year hitch in the Marines!!
Cut me a little slack! Lol
Yeah, when I went to school, there were a couple dudes in my classes that were ex-military studying criminal justice or whatever, and they were always rock-solid students. Low profile, just doing their work guys.
I don't regret art school but if I was a teen today, I wouldn't go. At most, take some software and business courses at a community college. There are several tutorials online though, if you're stuck but you either have the hustle or you don't.
My daughter is a very talented artist, and goes to an art-based high school. But now that we’re staring down the barrel of college next year, I am very cautious, to put it mildly
A year of work before college can go a very long way
ABSOLUTELY TRUE! The most vocal critics among the students were the ones with the least amount of talent! I think it’s a coping mechanism. Deep down inside they can see they are the least talented and they try and knock others down a peg or two to make themselves feel better.
Usually fine arts types that cannot render and have no grasp of the nuts and bolts of illustration. You will find many of them making the Jamocha shakes at Arby’s.
I learned a lot in art school but I went almost twenty years ago and it didn’t cost half as much as it does today. Now, I would try to apprentice with a professional instead.
Surprised this one hadn't already been covered. Nice to see you guys tackle it.
Was also made into a movie which had a weird serial killer side plot
They should really call it “artistic skills and theory” in universities.
Would love to see an episode on Jon bogdanove, I know a lot of people don’t like his stuff but his new mutants annual boom boom story is seriously slept on, some of the coolest cartooning I have seen
Flaming Ivan. We named the Cable eye guy Flaming Ivan.
Pretty sure we ribbed Voltron so hard in 1-D that he just fucked off, I don't think he was actually expelled.
Who among us hasn't tried to get through a critique by putting a tampon in a tea cup?
Wesley Willis shoutout 15:35
Is it worthy to read Eightball, if i dont live in US, Britain or Canada and my english lanquage is not so good?
Use Google translate over the words should translate
it will definitely give you a feeling for US culture through Dan Clowes's eyes. And it's visually stellar.
I know I'm late to the party, but you're better off going to a state district school with a good art program. Way cheaper and better than a dedicated art school imo
Thanks!
My art school had several older ladies.