Amazing, really good to know people are pushing the envelope while building on the sound experiments of those who came before. She's brilliant and she's applying her intelligence into realms far beyond the usual EDM and "pop" experimental music scenes.
Sometimes I feel like her life's ambition is to be a talking head in a documentary about the history of electronic music in the early 21st century. She goes out of her way to use silly buzzwords and then immediately explains them. Needing to complicate your musical ideas JUST so you can explain it to people isn't necessarily intelligent. But her music is super enjoyable so I won't complain too much.
Robert Syrett what, she was invited to give a lecture and the interviewer was asking her from the very start what she meant, to a very unnecessary degree. But yeah, sure, not sure who wants to be known for their internet talks in like 2019, weird thing to suggest that that’s her ‘motive’ for giving these talks.
Funny enough, Holly's work reminded me since the very first listen to Paul Lansky's "Six Fantasies On A Poem By Thomas Campion" VERY MUCH. Besides, I find it very funny that a self-confessed introvert that runs away from affect can have such transparent and expressive face/eyes.
I am totally on the board with a lot of what Holly Herndon has to say and after listening to this can really appreciate how much her music comes from a line of hardwork and experience accompanied by her own musical intuition, but for some reason her academic (yeah sorry, i'm being that guy) and technologically positive attitude makes me slightly uncomfortable. Like, I wonder if she ever thinks about technological innovation and how it impacts people of different cultures and socioeconomic classes. Technological change doesn't come without a price from the meek. Maybe i'm just projecting my own insecurities, because from my personal experience, social media and smartphones have been a smack in the face and have carried both positives and negatives. It's hard to adapt so quickly I don't know how people do it in a way that's heathy. I just feel left behind. Maybe I'm taking too much from a single lecture but I feel kind of jealous that she seems to embrace technology so openly and doesn't see it as a burden at all. I feel like those that can embrace changing technology in a healthy and not toxic way are those who are living harmoniously with the modern world, are strong, and have a healthy positive outlook on life.
Really like a lot of her music but ... maybe just a little naïve, no distance to her subject. And weird keywords she's coming back to, like, Sound of Now, Escapism - uh, shiver! Her Music should politically matter - now that's a holy wish and an ambigous thing, as you never know what people of "the Future Now" will use it for.
Senti mental when she brings up those points of the sound of now, criticizing escapism in music, and wanting her music to politically matter in a way, those are exactly the points that i can click with her on. But the criticism that I'm making is that her ambition and her perspective on those previously mentioned concepts stem from a more privileged place associated with western academia. Idk, it's a vibe that i could call "meritechnocratic" if that makes sense. Like, is an indigenous tribe deep in the jungles of Borneo not considered a part of "the sound of now"? I'm not against "progress" (whatever that means) but people's ideas of what progress is varies and some can be pretty fucked up even without intention.
Maybe - but if I may say that even on sounding arrogant, from what I hear here I have read more books and heard more music, so to me at least she is naïve - ambitious - of course! But really, c'mon, Sound of Now - that could be the name of a sixties record compilation for musak or actually anything. To me this kind of branding is just chauvinistic by nature. And this choir stuff is far from the Sound of Now to my ears. Music that politically matters, sure sounds nice, but what is that anyway? This could be a sentence from Goebbels ( now don't get me wrong, I do by no means compare her or her attitudes to those of Goebbels, I'm just stressing the -empty - concept). Also Celine Dions music "matters political", probably more so, as there are more people listening to that. And so does lecturing in Stanford matter politically too. What I wanted to say is that it does not completley depend on us what happens to our music, and that is also something positive. I wouldn't want to be a dictator telling people how to read my music, speaking for myself... Apart from that and her choir music (which matters most to her probably as a turning point) I rather listen to her music than hear her talking.
No one will probably read this comment given the age of the video; however, I appreciate the interviewer asking about terms. Whats unfortunate is when someone just throws out words to describe what they do and have no idea what the words mean.
The kind of person that just makes you want to soak up so much knowledge. So spacey. Also, I think she was right in saying that Musique Concrete came about in the 40's?
music concrete coincided with the development of the tape recorder. People could record their surroundings and splice the audio into compositions. This is another way music was informed by modernity and modernism..
Herndon is surprisingly normal on the outside looking in. Her music and persona makes her seem like such a strange person. In this interview she comes across as very level headed, cerebral and sane.
when you rely on technology to define the aesthetic of your music you actually limit the sense of timelessness of the sound...No matter how you think otherwise technology continues to evolve and develop and those whom rely on that technology are trapped in its mannerisms. I am not knocking it but maybe a little weary of all the "new" sounds and techniques.. simply because if you lived in the 90s the electronic scene was intense.. and now a lot of those sounds and music is simply obsolete dated and kind of feels naive..
What about SONGS without all the bullshit? um...Just wondering if any of this is hummable. and will be remembered in not just 50 years from now...but even 10. Holy shit. really? machine. machine. machine. Paint me a horse. and stop fiddling with gadgets. Sorry to be an ass hole..but how about you play a melody, and something simple, timeless, on something that does not require electricity.
+Mary Lou Lord some people like different things than you. I checked out your single on your TH-cam page and it was alright but I found it boring, derivative, safe, etc. and prefer music that tries new things. Holly's gained some popularity and recognition so she's certainly tapped into something that people find interesting.
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This woman conducts the best interviews for RBMA lectures.
15:06 'moving back to the pre-corporate era of the web'
at the Red Bull Music Academy...
This interviewer does a really, really great job.
Amazing, really good to know people are pushing the envelope while building on the sound experiments of those who came before. She's brilliant and she's applying her intelligence into realms far beyond the usual EDM and "pop" experimental music scenes.
Sometimes I feel like her life's ambition is to be a talking head in a documentary about the history of electronic music in the early 21st century. She goes out of her way to use silly buzzwords and then immediately explains them. Needing to complicate your musical ideas JUST so you can explain it to people isn't necessarily intelligent. But her music is super enjoyable so I won't complain too much.
Robert Syrett what, she was invited to give a lecture and the interviewer was asking her from the very start what she meant, to a very unnecessary degree. But yeah, sure, not sure who wants to be known for their internet talks in like 2019, weird thing to suggest that that’s her ‘motive’ for giving these talks.
she really is an incredible human being
+OtherSideOfTheVoid Lol why so angry? Do I detect a hint of jealousy?
btw guys, holy was right. musique concrete was in 1940s.
Fun fact: The music Holly talks about in he minute or two after 1:04:20 has a name, and is called “algorave”
Funny enough, Holly's work reminded me since the very first listen to Paul Lansky's "Six Fantasies On A Poem By Thomas Campion" VERY MUCH.
Besides, I find it very funny that a self-confessed introvert that runs away from affect can have such transparent and expressive face/eyes.
I am totally on the board with a lot of what Holly Herndon has to say and after listening to this can really appreciate how much her music comes from a line of hardwork and experience accompanied by her own musical intuition, but for some reason her academic (yeah sorry, i'm being that guy) and technologically positive attitude makes me slightly uncomfortable. Like, I wonder if she ever thinks about technological innovation and how it impacts people of different cultures and socioeconomic classes. Technological change doesn't come without a price from the meek. Maybe i'm just projecting my own insecurities, because from my personal experience, social media and smartphones have been a smack in the face and have carried both positives and negatives. It's hard to adapt so quickly I don't know how people do it in a way that's heathy. I just feel left behind. Maybe I'm taking too much from a single lecture but I feel kind of jealous that she seems to embrace technology so openly and doesn't see it as a burden at all. I feel like those that can embrace changing technology in a healthy and not toxic way are those who are living harmoniously with the modern world, are strong, and have a healthy positive outlook on life.
Really like a lot of her music but ... maybe just a little naïve, no distance to her subject. And weird keywords she's coming back to, like, Sound of Now, Escapism - uh, shiver! Her Music should politically matter - now that's a holy wish and an ambigous thing, as you never know what people of "the Future Now" will use it for.
Senti mental when she brings up those points of the sound of now, criticizing escapism in music, and wanting her music to politically matter in a way, those are exactly the points that i can click with her on. But the criticism that I'm making is that her ambition and her perspective on those previously mentioned concepts stem from a more privileged place associated with western academia. Idk, it's a vibe that i could call "meritechnocratic" if that makes sense. Like, is an indigenous tribe deep in the jungles of Borneo not considered a part of "the sound of now"? I'm not against "progress" (whatever that means) but people's ideas of what progress is varies and some can be pretty fucked up even without intention.
Senti mental Those concepts (sound of now, etc) form an established and agreed upon room of thought which only houses it's own internal debate.
i don't think she's naive at all from the way you're saying it though. don't equate ambition with naivete
Maybe - but if I may say that even on sounding arrogant, from what I hear here I have read more books and heard more music, so to me at least she is naïve - ambitious - of course! But really, c'mon, Sound of Now - that could be the name of a sixties record compilation for musak or actually anything. To me this kind of branding is just chauvinistic by nature. And this choir stuff is far from the Sound of Now to my ears. Music that politically matters, sure sounds nice, but what is that anyway? This could be a sentence from Goebbels ( now don't get me wrong, I do by no means compare her or her attitudes to those of Goebbels, I'm just stressing the -empty - concept). Also Celine Dions music "matters political", probably more so, as there are more people listening to that. And so does lecturing in Stanford matter politically too. What I wanted to say is that it does not completley depend on us what happens to our music, and that is also something positive. I wouldn't want to be a dictator telling people how to read my music, speaking for myself... Apart from that and her choir music (which matters most to her probably as a turning point) I rather listen to her music than hear her talking.
this interviewer is excellent!
Net Concrete needs to be a thing in the near future.
I wanna sample/play my laptop.
That would be a cool production tool,
What a fantastic interviewer!
No one will probably read this comment given the age of the video; however, I appreciate the interviewer asking about terms. Whats unfortunate is when someone just throws out words to describe what they do and have no idea what the words mean.
daniel lopatin collab when
It already happened, look up "instrumental tourist"
@@joevargo2777 That was Tim Hecker
The kind of person that just makes you want to soak up so much knowledge. So spacey.
Also, I think she was right in saying that Musique Concrete came about in the 40's?
John Hansen Bristow Pierre Schaeffer first used term in 1949 if I recall correctly.
music concrete coincided with the development of the tape recorder. People could record their surroundings and splice the audio into compositions. This is another way music was informed by modernity and modernism..
Lol the interviewer's face during interlude
man she is very lovely
Very Nice! Fron Brazil!
Herndon is surprisingly normal on the outside looking in. Her music and persona makes her seem like such a strange person. In this interview she comes across as very level headed, cerebral and sane.
anyone know where the sweater is from ?
looks a bit like ava catherside not sure thoo
FROM GOD
Who designed those couched?
Jonathan Patrick Just make them yourself...
oh great, thanks...
53:35 YESSSSSSSS
wooooah 1:55:20 is that Zebra fucking katz?
she is just awesome
An english spoken lecture in Tokyo
Subtitles or CC would be nice
I actually kinda like it.
HOLLY EVERYONE WANTS YOU TO TALK ON HOW TO MAKE MUSIC 🎶 ONLINE COURSES 🎶 MORE MUSIC 🎶 YOU ARE AMAZING 🎶
This lecture was great also that mc has huge hands
great interview! who's the beautiful lady interviewing holly?
is she supporting radiohead at the moment during their tour
Yup
i disagree i really want my car to sound like a spaceship
What is the design group she refers to at 1:12:50?
Burt Alexis metahaven
Sweet! Thanks Oliver Matich
Pleease automatic subs in all lectures, please
super interesting
💘
palms trax at 1:22:12?
her music reminds me of anything on R Plus 7
Same, why hasn’t she collaborated with Daniel Lopatin.
She obviously loves mark fisher
Who's the interviewer?
+CoasterNinja emma warren
1:12:17 the curve is non linear LOL
when you rely on technology to define the aesthetic of your music you actually limit the sense of timelessness of the sound...No matter how you think otherwise technology continues to evolve and develop and those whom rely on that technology are trapped in its mannerisms. I am not knocking it but maybe a little weary of all the "new" sounds and techniques.. simply because if you lived in the 90s the electronic scene was intense.. and now a lot of those sounds and music is simply obsolete dated and kind of feels naive..
all music relies on technology
@@Alex-tw4ld yes, you are correct, I was assuming everyone understood we were talking about digital technology.
@@xpez9694 that is a pointless distinction to make in regards to the subject
WE ARE NEVER BOOKING YOU AGAIN
You guys human nature is all about to protect us against Holly and friends music
that mr beans girlfriend doin the interview
That instrument sounds out of tune.
Knowing holly, they are probably supposed to be like that.
Retro-fetishism also just creatively dilutes the music with recycled creations
bbbzzzzzrr
Pierre Schaeffer was 10 years old in 1920 how could he be experimenting with sound??LOL
26:44 she's farting?
anyone else noticing some major tension between interviewer and holly?
Dont see it?
Lol i noticed!
sound fake af
eewww
What about SONGS without all the bullshit? um...Just wondering if any
of this is hummable. and will be remembered in not just 50 years from now...but
even 10. Holy shit. really? machine. machine. machine. Paint me a horse. and stop fiddling with gadgets. Sorry to be an ass hole..but how about you play a melody, and something simple, timeless, on something that does not require electricity.
+Mary Lou Lord some people like different things than you. I checked out your single on your TH-cam page and it was alright but I found it boring, derivative, safe, etc. and prefer music that tries new things. Holly's gained some popularity and recognition so she's certainly tapped into something that people find interesting.
seems insecure, weird interview