This is a very nice video. Thank you for the kind words. I think the best way to become an experienced player is to play blitz campaigns. Maximizing the use of your resources (money and troops) forces you to think about every decision. Even if you run into trouble, you will have learned and you will do better the next time. Also, I think you failed to mention the great archer and slinger mercenaries available to the Greeks at Rhodes or Pergamum. Maybe give them a shout out in the battle video.
Absolutely. Playing to min/max everything forces you to see what the most effective strategies truly are. And yes, the mercs are looked at in more detail in the battlefield strategy guide.
Excellent stuff! I appreciate your approach so much: you look at what the game gives us, and rather than sneering about inaccuracy, you research what the devs may have been going for, and educate us about the history along the way. Campaign mechanics, building options, strategy, history, and roleplay - this has it all. Looking forward to any other vids you do in this vein! The Britons will be an interesting choice. I like to play in line with history to an extent, so I have a hard time playing for too long as Britannia unless I can get in the headspace of being some pan-Celtic coalition that's a few hundred years out of place... but on the other hand, I'm an unapologetic chariot fan, so I'm curious to see how you'll approach them.
Thank you very much! I like to add my own touch to these guides. I'm glad people enjoy it. The Britons are an intriguing one. Not sure where to start with the 'history' from that period of Britain other than the game being from the Roman perspective. As for chariots... chariots are love!
In Rome 2 Syracuse and Pergamum are indeed separate factions so you're likely correct that it was a technological limitation of the time more than anything else.
I doubt it was a technical limitation, but rather the game designers wanting to keep the game as simple as possible. Why have fifty billion different factions that are only slightly different? Yes it might be more historically accurate, but alas in good game design: fun triumphs over realism (which obviously worked because RTW1 is generally more highly regarded than it's successor; having Syracuse/Pergamum/Sparta/Athens/etc instead of "Greek Cities" did not save RTW2 lmao) and It's the reason why there's odd anachronisms (bronze age egypt, silver shield legionaries, so many damn chariots, etc) Also the Greek Cities wasn't an originally intended faction, instead there was going to be Thrace (which the Greek city states took the spot of), and Illyria (funnily enough they became Thrace)
One of the most straightforward campaigns, 2 words: armored hoplites. the very early game can be tough, you will almost certainly lose thermon but once you start factory producing those bad bois nothing can stop you, force corner camp, bridge or settlement defense fights, noone stands a chance
It's interesting you note their resemblance to a rebel faction. Until relatively late in RTW's development, they had not planned to include a 'Greek' faction and were going to have Thrace instead, so they almost were a series of rebel cities.
Very good video about the Greek Cities. The Greeks are really good economic and military, even when the combats is repetitive and simple. Honestly always going full war against the romes and macedon because they will soon or later be a true menace to you. Macedon have Corinth with is ,by most of the total war players, the best territory in game thanks to the Zeus's Statue who give a buff to public order that will help in the late game. The Scipii and Brutii are the true menace to Syracuse and Greece. Sometimes Carthage accept do an Alliance with me and help to stop their armies from sea until I take their cities. Next time do the Britons. I love smash infantry with the chariots.
Thanks for watching and as ever, do put any suggestions for future videos in the comments. Here's a link to Old Total Warrior's Speedrun Greek Campaign. th-cam.com/video/Wpf7cTi2_-0/w-d-xo.html
It’s absolutely hilarious to me how historically inaccurate this game is. With all the Greek cities united together and Sparta of all places being an important city. I mean at this period in time there where like two people in Sparta it was an insignificant village.
It certainly wasn't the old Sparta... I guess they couldn't leave Sparta out of an ancient era total war; the fans demand it! But indeed it's funny that people bemoan how a-historical 3K is when Rome is full of inaccuracies - just wait for the Egypt guide ;)
Also there were far too few settlements in Greece. Greece was a massive clusterfuck of leauges and allaince. There should be far more settlements in Greece also there should 4 new factions in Greece, Eprius, Achaean League, Aetolian Leauge and the Chremonidean leagues. Chremonidean Leauge. The Chremonidean Leauge is pretty much Athens and Sparta. Achaean League is made of 4 new city states of Dyme, Patras, Aigion and Pellen.
Wasn't the Peloponnesian League the Alliance of Greek City States at this time and Sparta was forced to join because of a major loss of military and political power?
Is it just me? I don't really Put Walls in Sparta Huge City and still no Wall's over 600k credits and just quit playing when I can no longer keep Law and order on conquered Cities as even Allie's Agent s Keep sabotaging and having Civil Unrest.
I always play greek cities. Just repel the roman attacks and allied macedon in early then in 5 years slowly destroy roman factions then go and left the rome it self then go for Macedon Then you can slowly siege every settlements in the game and go for roam for last
This is a very nice video. Thank you for the kind words.
I think the best way to become an experienced player is to play blitz campaigns. Maximizing the use of your resources (money and troops) forces you to think about every decision. Even if you run into trouble, you will have learned and you will do better the next time.
Also, I think you failed to mention the great archer and slinger mercenaries available to the Greeks at Rhodes or Pergamum. Maybe give them a shout out in the battle video.
Absolutely. Playing to min/max everything forces you to see what the most effective strategies truly are.
And yes, the mercs are looked at in more detail in the battlefield strategy guide.
Excellent stuff! I appreciate your approach so much: you look at what the game gives us, and rather than sneering about inaccuracy, you research what the devs may have been going for, and educate us about the history along the way.
Campaign mechanics, building options, strategy, history, and roleplay - this has it all. Looking forward to any other vids you do in this vein!
The Britons will be an interesting choice. I like to play in line with history to an extent, so I have a hard time playing for too long as Britannia unless I can get in the headspace of being some pan-Celtic coalition that's a few hundred years out of place... but on the other hand, I'm an unapologetic chariot fan, so I'm curious to see how you'll approach them.
Thank you very much! I like to add my own touch to these guides. I'm glad people enjoy it.
The Britons are an intriguing one. Not sure where to start with the 'history' from that period of Britain other than the game being from the Roman perspective. As for chariots... chariots are love!
@@ToNerdistoHumanTNH Just #FYI, the Temples of Nike are pronounced Nigh-Kee, not Nee-Kay
@@NobleKorhedron I remember back in the days reading in total war forum, the meme of Spartan warriors having Nike trainers.
In Rome 2 Syracuse and Pergamum are indeed separate factions so you're likely correct that it was a technological limitation of the time more than anything else.
I doubt it was a technical limitation, but rather the game designers wanting to keep the game as simple as possible. Why have fifty billion different factions that are only slightly different? Yes it might be more historically accurate, but alas in good game design: fun triumphs over realism (which obviously worked because RTW1 is generally more highly regarded than it's successor; having Syracuse/Pergamum/Sparta/Athens/etc instead of "Greek Cities" did not save RTW2 lmao) and It's the reason why there's odd anachronisms (bronze age egypt, silver shield legionaries, so many damn chariots, etc)
Also the Greek Cities wasn't an originally intended faction, instead there was going to be Thrace (which the Greek city states took the spot of), and Illyria (funnily enough they became Thrace)
One of the most straightforward campaigns, 2 words: armored hoplites. the very early game can be tough, you will almost certainly lose thermon but once you start factory producing those bad bois nothing can stop you, force corner camp, bridge or settlement defense fights, noone stands a chance
If only us Cretan's were in the greek roster properly. Then they would dominate ;)
Love me some cretan's
It's interesting you note their resemblance to a rebel faction. Until relatively late in RTW's development, they had not planned to include a 'Greek' faction and were going to have Thrace instead, so they almost were a series of rebel cities.
Very good video about the Greek Cities.
The Greeks are really good economic and military, even when the combats is repetitive and simple.
Honestly always going full war against the romes and macedon because they will soon or later be a true menace to you.
Macedon have Corinth with is ,by most of the total war players, the best territory in game thanks to the Zeus's Statue who give a buff to public order that will help in the late game.
The Scipii and Brutii are the true menace to Syracuse and Greece. Sometimes Carthage accept do an Alliance with me and help to stop their armies from sea until I take their cities.
Next time do the Britons. I love smash infantry with the chariots.
Thanks for watching and as ever, do put any suggestions for future videos in the comments.
Here's a link to Old Total Warrior's Speedrun Greek Campaign.
th-cam.com/video/Wpf7cTi2_-0/w-d-xo.html
Love these videos! A Seleucids guide would be cool!
Best Roster of units!
@@youseffsalib4459 Definitely! a shame the legionaries come so late though
@@CodOpsZombies True that. Though let's be clear, scythed Chariots are all anyone needs bro ;)
The Seleucid's have a great campaign! That will be fun to make!
In melkor's video he says that or actualy is sparta
Loved the way to play sections at the end. Very interesting.
Another great guide! Love the role play idea.
Cheers. After 16 years, we still have to think of new campaign ideas. 😅
It’s absolutely hilarious to me how historically inaccurate this game is. With all the Greek cities united together and Sparta of all places being an important city. I mean at this period in time there where like two people in Sparta it was an insignificant village.
It certainly wasn't the old Sparta... I guess they couldn't leave Sparta out of an ancient era total war; the fans demand it!
But indeed it's funny that people bemoan how a-historical 3K is when Rome is full of inaccuracies - just wait for the Egypt guide ;)
It's the Capital of Laconia...what do you want them to do? At least it doesn't start with a wall like it did irl.
Also there were far too few settlements in Greece. Greece was a massive clusterfuck of leauges and allaince. There should be far more settlements in Greece also there should 4 new factions in Greece, Eprius, Achaean League, Aetolian Leauge and the Chremonidean leagues. Chremonidean Leauge. The Chremonidean Leauge is pretty much Athens and Sparta. Achaean League is made of 4 new city states of Dyme, Patras, Aigion and Pellen.
Romano British campaign guide would be welcome too! I like the content on them you already have.
Cheers! I should look at guides for BI too at some point!
Wasn't the Peloponnesian League the Alliance of Greek City States at this time and Sparta was forced to join because of a major loss of military and political power?
Is it just me? I don't really Put Walls in Sparta Huge City and still no Wall's over 600k credits and just quit playing when I can no longer keep Law and order on conquered Cities as even Allie's Agent s Keep sabotaging and having Civil Unrest.
You have a great channel.
Thank you sir! I should get back to these guides. They're great fun
I always play greek cities.
Just repel the roman attacks and allied macedon in early then in 5 years slowly destroy roman factions then go and left the rome it self then go for Macedon
Then you can slowly siege every settlements in the game and go for roam for last
I think the Greeks are the most overpowered faction in the game. You can pretty much beat anyone with an army of armoured hoplites.
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