The positive side is that you are going to get an awesome paint job out of this. And won't have that pesky pinned head in the back of your mind wondering when it's going to fail. I am sure it will will work out and be fun to watch to boot! Keep up the great work!
This is just an example of why I prefer to replace damaged castings instead of trying to repair it. The M that we had when I was growing up had frozen and heaved a chunk of the casting out of the top of the head. My father took the head to a machine shop that nickel welded it back together. When it came time to rebuild the engine we had to have it welded again. When I took it apart about 10 years later, the same piece popped out again. We ended up replacing the head at that time because the welder who looked at it said that he couldn't understand why it was repaired the first time. He said that the old weld had old cracks that looked like they were seeping for a long time. It was just amazing that it didn't pop out and dump a lot of coolant in the oil.
Maybe it is time to start building a machine shop, Toby. If nobody goes into it, there won't be anybody doing it. You might see if Dave Richards at the Old Steam Powered Machine Shop can help. He did Pete's tractor over at Just a Few Acres Farm. Of course, he is local to Pete and you would have shipping, but you would also know it would be done right.
Quick paint job he said. It'll be easy he said!! Lol!! Might as well bore it out, get some pop up pistons, and a turbo while you are there!! Then you can pull a 3 bottom and leave the rear wheels dished out like God intended them to be!!!😂
The joys of working on old machinery. I have found that nearly every time I work on old gear it needs more than expected. Keep up the good work and videos.
I remember my father telling me about an old Plymouth flat head he saw with a crack that went from an exhaust seat across the deck and all the way down the cylinder. They fixed it with Sodium Silicate, or water glass. He said that because the cylinder pressures never got that high (like an H Farmall), it worked fine, and they never had any more trouble.
This is like when I opened the rear end on the H.... I found that brazing, and the 1/16" deep groove worn into the bottom of the case by the bull gear... And then the cracking from the brazing.... That's when I knew..... This was going to be rough. Ha ha! Keep your head up, bud. The good thing is... It's a simple H!
@Squatch253 If it weren't for the 6.0, I wouldn't have been able to afford the down payment on my first house. Back then, I was flat-rate at a mom and pop shop, but the local Ford dealer brought most of the diesels to us. I guess they thought it better to sub the work than to pay well enough to keep a good diesel tech on staff. Oh well, it was good work!
At my first wrenching job, we did a lot of 6.0's. I remember when Bulletproof first came into being- we were one of the first shops to install their then-pre-production Bulletproof Oil Cooler. That one sucked. Gave them feedback, including that we thought a thermostatic bypass would be wise. The next one they had us trial install had better hose routing and sizing, better cooler mounting.... Anyway, by the time I left there we were doing a Bulletproof build weekly. H11 studs, Air dog for fuel, and back then Swamps was the source for the beefed up FICM's. Usually the oilfield trucks would get the "full Bulletproof" and an "improved stock" tune. Really improved their reliability. Make them a real joy to drive. No coal-rolling nonsense, just good response with good power and good economy. Now, the bosses son bought one and went nuts... bigger turbo and injectors, different HPOP.... Went like a bat out of hell, in between failures haha
I have a Massey Harris 44 that put ant-freeze in the pan about 20 years. I only found it with out runnng it because i pulled the stick before i started it after sitting for sometime and it was over full. I took the easy fix route and put irontite in it.
Thanks for the update your doing great remaining calm & collective. We are in it for the long haul with you. I bought a borescope attachment for my smartphone that I’m quite impressed with it for the low cost.
I had a chevy 292 short block done for me a few years back that until magnafluxing I had absolutely no idea it was cracked. I had another engine that I could have used once I pulled it out of a parts truck but I let my machinist talk me into welding up my original block. He told me it was a easy fix and id never have a problem. Well long story short about a year later its a problem. Started with just leaking a little coolant externally but now it pushes oil into the coolant. Its a real shame as it runs great but now i need to do another complete rebuild. Funny how the shortcuts come back to bite you.
Bit of a bummer Toby. It never fails on old machinery, one job leads to another and yet another. I started off replacing a set of valve seats on my (dads) old '42 International W6 to enable it to run on pure petrol (gas). Removing the head has seen me discover I need another carburettor, manifold (petrol/TVO), piston rings, small end bushes, big end bearing and an oil pick up screen. Not to mention a full gasket & seal kit🥴🥴 For me, it is a labour of love as my dad would never sell it, even after it had landed upside down on top of him in 1952 nearly taking his life. He always said "It wasn't the tractors fault!!
Remember few episodes back I said something about the clutch. Mechanics ESP kicked in HAHA................. I'm dealing with EGR cooler dumping coolant and used 3 gals in 83 miles right now. He's freaking out engine ruined and said oil level over full mark and oil milky. Oil level not over full mark and oil looks like oil nice and black like all EGR Cummins engines. Of course, brings up engine from 10 years ago. Owner drove truck for 3 weeks with bad EGR cooler. I get truck and get just to the bay door and engine stopped. Cummins ISX 15 Engine shallowed big gulp of coolant, intake and EGR system completely full. Owner was pissed at me and I didn't get to overhaul it either. Found it bent 4 rods out of the 6
Well Toby that’s very unexpected. Definitely wasn’t expecting to see Preparation H taken the engine apart to fix as well. Maybe that’s Christine working her magic saying she wants to be completed lol! Hopefully you won’t have to look for a new cylinder head for it as well or is it even fixable? On the bright side at least you found it now and can address the issue before you spent all the time putting new seals and repaint everything. Thanks for the update and can’t wait for the next video!
I am sorry you have to take all of this apart, but I am really happy to see the insides of this engine! Makes this video series even more interesting and gives you peace of mind :)
You know I'm so pleased you too clean things before you take them apart. It drives me nuts watching other TH-camrs pulling tractors apart - especially garden tractors - without cleaning them first. They still have a few things to learn I reckon. 🙂 Positive note here, you prevented a potentially much more expensive repair by digging into H's heart. I know too, of course, you're glad you did.
By your calm demeanor, I can see that you have walked a similar path before. As you must surely know, it's better to catch this trouble now. Conversely, I have a buddy whose uncle wants to GIVE him (no strings attached) what is probably an early 70's Olds Cutlass convertible (not a 442) in 'farm fresh' condition. He is avoiding taking even the first step of laying claim to it. He's definitely at the opposite end of the spectrum. On the other hand, I am working through all the minor problems of a freebie vintage tractor because it will be a fine replacement for my vintage forklift. As they say, one doesn't look a gift horse in the mouth. Well, apparently SOME of us do!
Thanks for the update Squatch. It's a real shame that you need to go this far now. But it's much better than chewing up crank barings. And the end result now is this tractor will be mechanically new like Seniors. Cheers
at least you know about the problems before they caused more damage. we had an H that I put a lot of time on, mowing, raking and hauling hay. best tractor made.
Outstanding video Sir! You are one of the best mechanics I have ever watched. I know you were disappointed finding the leaking water in cylinder 4, but to see you tear everything down further than you planned was great for me to watch and learn. I have really been following this project and can't wait for the next episode. Also, I love the way you film the important parts and explain why you are doing it. Your videos flow so smoothly! Jeff
That was very fortunate to find the head issue now rather than after you repainted it and was in a parade pulling a wagon load of dignitaries when the #4 cylinder hydrolocked! Great episode and although I'm sorry for your troubles, I will now get several more chances to see you use your reasoning skills! ..............🚜
Never saw stitching in the casting. The old skilled machine shops were amazing. Hopefully, the AF did damage the bearing surfaces. Have a good one! Thanks for the updates
Another great video! I got this borescope recently off amazon. It's not super fancy, but it has two camera's 90 degree opposed. It's perfect for your channel. On sale now only $80. DEPSTECH Dual Lens Industrial Endoscope, 1080P Digital Borescope Inspection Camera with 7.9mm IP67 Waterproof Camera, Sewer Camera with 4.3" LCD Screen, 7 LED Lights,16.5FT Semi-Rigid Cable, 32GB Card.
Well,... even if the new head takes a while to acquire, if you find no 'other' problems with the short block, you can do everything else you had intended to do. All the sheet metal work can be done, all the cleaning and painting, the front end can be fixed, a more or less full re-assembly can be done. Everything but the head. So the problem with the head can keep you from having a running tractor for an extended period, but it can't prevent you from doing everything else. Looking forward to seeing it.
I just love watching you tear these engines down. Be interesting to see if its the head. Will you just clean existing internals up, or buy new? Regardless you rock!
I would be reluctant to have the head repaired again (as much as I might wish to have it repaired again); the amount of careful work to remove, examine, & reinstall the head that a repair would risk would not seem worth it. A good salvage head for reconditioning might be the best option.
I would never catched that pin hole, I'd rather assume that the water in the oil and the rust in No4 would be caused from condensation....wow! Bad news... Thx for showing! 👍👍👍
I’m glad you found this problem now and not after reassembled. In the end I’m sure you will fix it in the best way possible. And it will look great too.
You’re taking the “bad” head quite well. I’m putting a Super MTA engine back together and will be watching your tricks of trade. I’ve already returned to the Super M videos that you and Sr. have done for reference. 👍👍
At least it wasn't in the block from a freeze out .a friend in Petaluma did the same thing with a set of 202 Chevy heads. The Crack grew and the antifreeze was in the pan .will a head from a formall tractor fit . I have never worked in a farm all tractor.
I'm sorry to learn you have a water leak in that engine you are so sentimentally attached to, but boy am I happy to know now you’ll have to fully dissect it! Thanks for the great content as always.
LOL... So called it when first talk about "refresh" that this would end up being a complete teardown! Might be more work, but also makes great content! Yay!
I picked up a HF borescope. Not the greatest, but OK for peaking into cylinders. The Prep-H is turning onto son of D2 with the full-on rebuild. Bummer. Let us know how the 12-step process goes at the H group of unintended rebuilds meeting....smile. Looking forward to the rebuild as always.
If access isn’t a problem I wouldn’t be worried about welding up the crack. Cast iron welding isn’t nearly as bad as some say I do it quite regularly with no failure. And I normally work on heavy equipment in high stress situations.
🤗 while you were away I have been reviewing gas and diesel engines made to run upside down that's right DB 600 series Henkel Engines intake manifold under the engine an oil pan on top made exclusively to run like that 😮
I had a piston break from a water leak into the chamber under load. Evidently it turns to stem and doesn’t compress. I understand that happens on old Continentals sometimes when they have sat for an extended period and then when they are put in service the head gasket lets go. Real bad noises then a complete overhaul. At least you didn’t have an unscheduled rapid automatic engine disassembly in front of the grandstand !
Sometimes an auction restoration ( zero repairs, 20$ of paint with near zero prep, but at least the tires were partially masked!) and blinders is bliss! 😂
I maybe little late with some info for you not know the name but there is a place in Chicago area that does fix heads. Also you may try AlState ag tractor parts they might
Yeah, as you said, not something you paint on. For me, the plug and see through messiness on the cylinder wall would've been enough after finding coolant in the oil. I've had my fair share of old engines that were dynamited because their owners had ignored stuff like this. A few of them were expensive disappointments, so now, i just do it, because it's better to do it even if it's a minor leak (and in this case, going by your description of the events, it seems to be a small leak). Hey, look on the bright side, when you're done, this H will be in tip-top condition on top of having a good paint job that you won't have to take off any time soon. What more can an owner ask?
Excellent video you may be able to buy a reconditioned cylinder head from all states ag parts or abilene machine if you can't find a machine shop to recondition and good used cylinder head check the cam shaft and cam shaft bearings antifreeze in the oil wears them out fast
Imagine if you didn’t drain the oil until you had it all back together so at least it happened at an opportune time but having said that, that happened to my crane engine so I know that gut punch feeling nobody wants to buy a crane that can’t move and needs to be resealed at the very least! Hopefully you can find a head that is in good shape!😀🇨🇦
No point in fixing one problem. Do it all and have the satisfaction for a job well done. Attention to detail as always. I always keep stuff in the order they came apart. (push rods) I don't know why. I just think it is the right thing to do. I don't think it's a step backwards. If anything it will be giant step forward. It will be fun to watch. Just love to watch a tractor in your hands become new again. Love them Farmall's. Thanks again for sharing.
Best to find the dead head now, rather than have it go belly up after the tractor is back together and painted. Kind of a blessing in disguise, although Preparation H for a name is kind of prophetic at this point…….
Famous last words are, "This will be a simple or straightforward job!" Bites me in the butt if I even think of any of those words. Fortunately, over a million or so of those heads were made. Shouldn't be too difficult to find a replacement if you're not watching date codes and casting #'s.
Did they use Irontite when they pinned it? That's what I used in 1973 - 1976 when I was pinning cracks in dad's machine shop... still haven't heard of one leaking again! Not even the Chevy 235's I spent DAYS pinning. BTW, how bad can your condition be, without having to be alphabetically correct - CDO. LOL!
Don’t get depressed! It’s just the nature of old Iron. You will never have everything done and perfect, I’ve been trying for over 30 years. You roll with punches and go on to the next project.
Dang it !!!! Oh well, good thing you caught it when you did !!! Could have went very bad very fast. I was under the impression pinning cracks was a more permanent repair. One thing for sure ….. It never gets boring !!
Squatch Before: "This wasn't in the plan..." Squatch Now: "This is the new plan..." Future Squatch: "This is the revised new plan..." This is the story of all of our lives... Keeps life interesting and entertaining... Chin up; It's only time and money. :)
Well plan’s always change if you make a plan lol glad it showed it’s head while you were there working on it and not five minutes after getting it back in service thanks for sharing
"Preparation H" is a good name for this project. It's becoming a hemorrhoid, to a certain extent. The content you produce is top notch! Thanks.
The positive side is that you are going to get an awesome paint job out of this. And won't have that pesky pinned head in the back of your mind wondering when it's going to fail. I am sure it will will work out and be fun to watch to boot! Keep up the great work!
This is just an example of why I prefer to replace damaged castings instead of trying to repair it. The M that we had when I was growing up had frozen and heaved a chunk of the casting out of the top of the head. My father took the head to a machine shop that nickel welded it back together. When it came time to rebuild the engine we had to have it welded again. When I took it apart about 10 years later, the same piece popped out again. We ended up replacing the head at that time because the welder who looked at it said that he couldn't understand why it was repaired the first time. He said that the old weld had old cracks that looked like they were seeping for a long time. It was just amazing that it didn't pop out and dump a lot of coolant in the oil.
You just saved yourself some money by finding it now. The way you conduct yourself is top shelf. You hit it out of the park with every episode.
5:45 LOL, you've seen a D2 before, have ya Squatch 253....? I passed coffee out my nose, and spot-on roast of Kyle Crist...! Bazinga.!
😂😂😂 love it! I thought the same thing!
Same here. Too funny!
But has he seen a D5?
Maybe it is time to start building a machine shop, Toby. If nobody goes into it, there won't be anybody doing it. You might see if Dave Richards at the Old Steam Powered Machine Shop can help. He did Pete's tractor over at Just a Few Acres Farm. Of course, he is local to Pete and you would have shipping, but you would also know it would be done right.
Quick paint job he said. It'll be easy he said!! Lol!! Might as well bore it out, get some pop up pistons, and a turbo while you are there!! Then you can pull a 3 bottom and leave the rear wheels dished out like God intended them to be!!!😂
@@jambo7348 it's called hyperbole
Good work Squatch253, l’ll be watching. Preparation H is like what we have in Australia called Anusol, both a pain in the butt.
The joys of working on old machinery. I have found that nearly every time I work on old gear it needs more than expected. Keep up the good work and videos.
I remember my father telling me about an old Plymouth flat head he saw with a crack that went from an exhaust seat across the deck and all the way down the cylinder. They fixed it with Sodium Silicate, or water glass. He said that because the cylinder pressures never got that high (like an H Farmall), it worked fine, and they never had any more trouble.
The “might as well bug” struck again, looking forward to seeing how far it goes
This is like when I opened the rear end on the H.... I found that brazing, and the 1/16" deep groove worn into the bottom of the case by the bull gear... And then the cracking from the brazing.... That's when I knew..... This was going to be rough. Ha ha! Keep your head up, bud. The good thing is... It's a simple H!
Just remember it could be worse, you could still be wrenching on some spoiled kids 6.0 that he chipped and stretched the head bolts on 😂😂😂
@Squatch253 If it weren't for the 6.0, I wouldn't have been able to afford the down payment on my first house. Back then, I was flat-rate at a mom and pop shop, but the local Ford dealer brought most of the diesels to us. I guess they thought it better to sub the work than to pay well enough to keep a good diesel tech on staff. Oh well, it was good work!
At my first wrenching job, we did a lot of 6.0's. I remember when Bulletproof first came into being- we were one of the first shops to install their then-pre-production Bulletproof Oil Cooler. That one sucked. Gave them feedback, including that we thought a thermostatic bypass would be wise. The next one they had us trial install had better hose routing and sizing, better cooler mounting....
Anyway, by the time I left there we were doing a Bulletproof build weekly. H11 studs, Air dog for fuel, and back then Swamps was the source for the beefed up FICM's.
Usually the oilfield trucks would get the "full Bulletproof" and an "improved stock" tune. Really improved their reliability. Make them a real joy to drive. No coal-rolling nonsense, just good response with good power and good economy.
Now, the bosses son bought one and went nuts... bigger turbo and injectors, different HPOP.... Went like a bat out of hell, in between failures haha
Lmao You got that right 😂
You named this rebuild preparation H. I guess this shouldn’t surprise you. Do you want me to send you a tube? 😢
6.0's are my best friend at work...now, the rash of 6.4's that have been showing up can go somewhere with the IDI engines and all rust in peace.
You should hot rod that motor.. port polish, cam, bump the compression up and send it.. H is for hot rod you know.....
I have a Massey Harris 44 that put ant-freeze in the pan about 20 years. I only found it with out runnng it because i pulled the stick before i started it after sitting for sometime and it was over full. I took the easy fix route and put irontite in it.
Thanks for the update your doing great remaining calm & collective. We are in it for the long haul with you. I bought a borescope attachment for my smartphone that I’m quite impressed with it for the low cost.
Oh boy, this ol tractor is becoming the Ship of Theseus!
I had a chevy 292 short block done for me a few years back that until magnafluxing I had absolutely no idea it was cracked. I had another engine that I could have used once I pulled it out of a parts truck but I let my machinist talk me into welding up my original block. He told me it was a easy fix and id never have a problem. Well long story short about a year later its a problem. Started with just leaking a little coolant externally but now it pushes oil into the coolant. Its a real shame as it runs great but now i need to do another complete rebuild. Funny how the shortcuts come back to bite you.
Bit of a bummer Toby.
It never fails on old machinery, one job leads to another and yet another.
I started off replacing a set of valve seats on my (dads) old '42 International W6 to enable it to run on pure petrol (gas).
Removing the head has seen me discover I need another carburettor, manifold (petrol/TVO), piston rings, small end bushes, big end bearing and an oil pick up screen.
Not to mention a full gasket & seal kit🥴🥴
For me, it is a labour of love as my dad would never sell it, even after it had landed upside down on top of him in 1952 nearly taking his life.
He always said "It wasn't the tractors fault!!
I love the head gaskets with the copper rings around the passage holes. The newer aftermarket ones without that have not been good to me.
Remember few episodes back I said something about the clutch. Mechanics ESP kicked in HAHA................. I'm dealing with EGR cooler dumping coolant and used 3 gals in 83 miles right now. He's freaking out engine ruined and said oil level over full mark and oil milky. Oil level not over full mark and oil looks like oil nice and black like all EGR Cummins engines. Of course, brings up engine from 10 years ago. Owner drove truck for 3 weeks with bad EGR cooler. I get truck and get just to the bay door and engine stopped. Cummins ISX 15 Engine shallowed big gulp of coolant, intake and EGR system completely full. Owner was pissed at me and I didn't get to overhaul it either. Found it bent 4 rods out of the 6
Good luck with the Rebuild
Well Toby that’s very unexpected. Definitely wasn’t expecting to see Preparation H taken the engine apart to fix as well. Maybe that’s Christine working her magic saying she wants to be completed lol! Hopefully you won’t have to look for a new cylinder head for it as well or is it even fixable? On the bright side at least you found it now and can address the issue before you spent all the time putting new seals and repaint everything. Thanks for the update and can’t wait for the next video!
That's a deep rabbit hole you're going down ...
I am sorry you have to take all of this apart, but I am really happy to see the insides of this engine! Makes this video series even more interesting and gives you peace of mind :)
You know I'm so pleased you too clean things before you take them apart. It drives me nuts watching other TH-camrs pulling tractors apart - especially garden tractors - without cleaning them first. They still have a few things to learn I reckon. 🙂 Positive note here, you prevented a potentially much more expensive repair by digging into H's heart. I know too, of course, you're glad you did.
By your calm demeanor, I can see that you have walked a similar path before. As you must surely know, it's better to catch this trouble now. Conversely, I have a buddy whose uncle wants to GIVE him (no strings attached) what is probably an early 70's Olds Cutlass convertible (not a 442) in 'farm fresh' condition. He is avoiding taking even the first step of laying claim to it. He's definitely at the opposite end of the spectrum. On the other hand, I am working through all the minor problems of a freebie vintage tractor because it will be a fine replacement for my vintage forklift. As they say, one doesn't look a gift horse in the mouth. Well, apparently SOME of us do!
Thanks for the update Squatch. It's a real shame that you need to go this far now. But it's much better than chewing up crank barings. And the end result now is this tractor will be mechanically new like Seniors. Cheers
I bet a good ceramic sealer could have cured the seep since it wasn't in the combustion chamber.
Selfishly.....your pain is our gain. Cheers mate!
You know what they , you don't wanna find anything wrong, you best not look.
at least you know about the problems before they caused more damage. we had an H that I put a lot of time on, mowing, raking and hauling hay. best tractor made.
Outstanding video Sir! You are one of the best mechanics I have ever watched. I know you were disappointed finding the leaking water in cylinder 4, but to see you tear everything down further than you planned was great for me to watch and learn. I have really been following this project and can't wait for the next episode. Also, I love the way you film the important parts and explain why you are doing it. Your videos flow so smoothly! Jeff
That was very fortunate to find the head issue now rather than after you repainted it and was in a parade pulling a wagon load of dignitaries when the #4 cylinder hydrolocked! Great episode and although I'm sorry for your troubles, I will now get several more chances to see you use your reasoning skills! ..............🚜
Never saw stitching in the casting. The old skilled machine shops were amazing. Hopefully, the AF did damage the bearing surfaces.
Have a good one!
Thanks for the updates
Another great video!
I got this borescope recently off amazon. It's not super fancy, but it has two camera's 90 degree opposed. It's perfect for your channel. On sale now only $80.
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That’s bad news about the H, the good news is its good TH-cam content. Maybe you’ll get some good viewing numbers out of this!
Well,... even if the new head takes a while to acquire, if you find no 'other' problems with the short block, you can do everything else you had intended to do. All the sheet metal work can be done, all the cleaning and painting, the front end can be fixed, a more or less full re-assembly can be done. Everything but the head. So the problem with the head can keep you from having a running tractor for an extended period, but it can't prevent you from doing everything else. Looking forward to seeing it.
I just love watching you tear these engines down.
Be interesting to see if its the head.
Will you just clean existing internals up, or buy new?
Regardless you rock!
Going to have to replace the Moline sign on the bench to a Farmall
Yeah and ditch the CAT hat! Lol
Bonus content to see the front half come apart! ❤❤🎉🎉🎉😊
I would be reluctant to have the head repaired again (as much as I might wish to have it repaired again); the amount of careful work to remove, examine, & reinstall the head that a repair would risk would not seem worth it. A good salvage head for reconditioning might be the best option.
"Not going to take the clitch off". Unfortunately, famous last words. Ya jinxed it!
I have a kerosine head that was redone maybe 100 hours ago but I’m about 15 hours away so probably not any help good luck on the head hunt
I would never catched that pin hole, I'd rather assume that the water in the oil and the rust in No4 would be caused from condensation....wow!
Bad news...
Thx for showing!
👍👍👍
I do the same thing when it comes to push rods...even head bolts.
Crusty bolts where it's "clean" & clean where everything else around is crusty as well.
I’m glad you found this problem now and not after reassembled. In the end I’m sure you will fix it in the best way possible. And it will look great too.
Amazon sells endoscopes for less than $100. The Hopefox Dual-Lens Endoscope sells for CAD$65 and performs excellent.
Was half expecting the Squatch in the chair with jacket over the face "we'll be right back" bit.
You’re taking the “bad” head quite well. I’m putting a Super MTA engine back together and will be watching your tricks of trade. I’ve already returned to the Super M videos that you and Sr. have done for reference. 👍👍
At least it wasn't in the block from a freeze out .a friend in Petaluma did the same thing with a set of 202 Chevy heads. The Crack grew and the antifreeze was in the pan .will a head from a formall tractor fit . I have never worked in a farm all tractor.
I. Ment a farmall m fit on an h tractor? Denis
Onward and upward, do it once and do it right , you will sort it , any problems ask senior , thanks for sharing 👍
I'm sorry to learn you have a water leak in that engine you are so sentimentally attached to, but boy am I happy to know now you’ll have to fully dissect it! Thanks for the great content as always.
LOL... So called it when first talk about "refresh" that this would end up being a complete teardown! Might be more work, but also makes great content! Yay!
Preparation H is living up to it's name. It's being a burning pain in the sphincter. I'm glad you found the problem.
It could be worse. The story goes that Johnny Cash wrote Ring of Fire after he reached for the Preparation H and grabbed the Ben Gay instead.
I picked up a HF borescope. Not the greatest, but OK for peaking into cylinders. The Prep-H is turning onto son of D2 with the full-on rebuild. Bummer. Let us know how the 12-step process goes at the H group of unintended rebuilds meeting....smile. Looking forward to the rebuild as always.
If access isn’t a problem I wouldn’t be worried about welding up the crack. Cast iron welding isn’t nearly as bad as some say I do it quite regularly with no failure. And I normally work on heavy equipment in high stress situations.
Love to watch old iron - none of the temporary plastic-stuff 👏👍🇸🇰🇺🇸,build to last and to reuse, country folks dream machine
🤗 while you were away I have been reviewing gas and diesel engines made to run upside down that's right DB 600 series Henkel
Engines intake manifold under the engine an oil pan on top made exclusively to run like that 😮
Check ur rocker arm studs or bolts first. Ih is known for. Rocker studs leaking around the threads
Whoever bet that he would find and excuse to tear into the engine wins!
fooey...at least we get to see much more content!
Keep em coming!!!!
I had a piston break from a water leak into the chamber under load. Evidently it turns to stem and doesn’t compress. I understand that happens on old Continentals sometimes when they have sat for an extended period and then when they are put in service the head gasket lets go. Real bad noises then a complete overhaul. At least you didn’t have an unscheduled rapid automatic engine disassembly in front of the grandstand !
you should get in touch with JAMSI, far far away, but surely interested in somewhat older tractors....
you know what they says " one cosmetic restoration is just one small hidden problem away from being a full blown restoration
Sometimes an auction restoration ( zero repairs, 20$ of paint with near zero prep, but at least the tires were partially masked!) and blinders is bliss! 😂
I maybe little late with some info for you not know the name but there is a place in Chicago area that does fix heads. Also you may try AlState ag tractor parts they might
I must say when you do a job you really do a good job can’t wait to hear the old H run again hope it all works out for you nice video
Toby I have the utmost confidence you will find a suitable replacement ❤
Life is a 'Choose Your Own Adventure' novel... you just opened a new chapter.
Good luck finding a machine shop! Hope you can get rid of those Minneapolis Moline gremlins before any else happens!
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Yeah, as you said, not something you paint on. For me, the plug and see through messiness on the cylinder wall would've been enough after finding coolant in the oil. I've had my fair share of old engines that were dynamited because their owners had ignored stuff like this. A few of them were expensive disappointments, so now, i just do it, because it's better to do it even if it's a minor leak (and in this case, going by your description of the events, it seems to be a small leak).
Hey, look on the bright side, when you're done, this H will be in tip-top condition on top of having a good paint job that you won't have to take off any time soon. What more can an owner ask?
Excellent video you may be able to buy a reconditioned cylinder head from all states ag parts or abilene machine if you can't find a machine shop to recondition and good used cylinder head check the cam shaft and cam shaft bearings antifreeze in the oil wears them out fast
Well dang the luck. Better you fond it now . Than working in the field with it. Since it's all apart now you can really put a paint job on it.
Another great video. Unexpected extra work 🙈. Enjoyed watching
A little transmission whine turns into a almost complete rebuild.
You got the elusive Kyle Christ good with the x231 hat in the tool box on the D5!!! Hahahaha
If you were in the Park Rapids area any time soon....I would tell ya to swing by the hobby farm here and pull the head off of my parts machine.
Imagine if you didn’t drain the oil until you had it all back together so at least it happened at an opportune time but having said that, that happened to my crane engine so I know that gut punch feeling nobody wants to buy a crane that can’t move and needs to be resealed at the very least!
Hopefully you can find a head that is in good shape!😀🇨🇦
No point in fixing one problem. Do it all and have the satisfaction for a job well done. Attention to detail as always. I always keep stuff in the order they came apart. (push rods) I don't know why. I just think it is the right thing to do. I don't think it's a step backwards. If anything it will be giant step forward. It will be fun to watch. Just love to watch a tractor in your hands become new again. Love them Farmall's. Thanks again for sharing.
Best to find the dead head now, rather than have it go belly up after the tractor is back together and painted. Kind of a blessing in disguise, although Preparation H for a name is kind of prophetic at this point…….
Famous last words are, "This will be a simple or straightforward job!" Bites me in the butt if I even think of any of those words. Fortunately, over a million or so of those heads were made. Shouldn't be too difficult to find a replacement if you're not watching date codes and casting #'s.
Well caught and a thorough diagnosis.
Did they use Irontite when they pinned it? That's what I used in 1973 - 1976 when I was pinning cracks in dad's machine shop... still haven't heard of one leaking again! Not even the Chevy 235's I spent DAYS pinning. BTW, how bad can your condition be, without having to be alphabetically correct - CDO. LOL!
@@squatch253 I love the positive take! Being moderately "CDO" (LOL) myself, I appreciate your approach and work ethic! Always enjoy your videos!!
I purchased an inexpensive board scope that uses my cell phone as the display for like $40. Been a fantastic investment.
I wish the news would have been better. The problem is in the right hands to get fixed properly though.
With the expertise you have shown on the D2 and the MM rebuild im sure this is no more than an inconvenience albeit one you never expected 💪👍
Don’t get depressed! It’s just the nature of old Iron. You will never have everything done and perfect, I’ve been trying for over 30 years. You roll with punches and go on to the next project.
Dang it !!!!
Oh well, good thing you caught it when you did !!!
Could have went very bad very fast.
I was under the impression pinning cracks was a more permanent repair.
One thing for sure …..
It never gets boring !!
Better to find it now while it is apart. Good used head and you will be back in business
Squatch Before: "This wasn't in the plan..." Squatch Now: "This is the new plan..." Future Squatch: "This is the revised new plan..." This is the story of all of our lives... Keeps life interesting and entertaining... Chin up; It's only time and money. :)
You can do it!!! But, seriously, thank you for sharing your life and thoughts!
Too bad you were not closer I can usually knock out a basic cylinder head job in a week or two.
Preparation H project has turned out to be a real pain in the hemorrhoids.
As always, excellent & interesting work!
wooo hooo we got another series... not trying to put a curse on you but I'm an avid follower...love the projects....
You will be happy you tackled it. 😊
aww man that really peeves me when your on a time frame and have to redo EVERYTHING like a motor
Why don't you fix the head? The seat are perhaps ok. The machine shop will likely use a lockin stich or iron tight plugs. They are easy
I’ve never had a tractor repair that didn’t have the rabbit hole repair!
Everyone's favorite jungle store has multiple styles of endoscope at various price ranges that have their own screen or attach to your phone.
Well plan’s always change if you make a plan lol glad it showed it’s head while you were there working on it and not five minutes after getting it back in service thanks for sharing