The Computer Programme (11th Jan 1982) [Replay] | Nostalgia Nerd
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- The Computer Programme was a 1982 BBC 2 Series which explored the new world of the computer and in particular, the home micro. This was the original series conjured to tie in with Acorn's BBC Micro and would go on to spawn a sequel in the guise of "Making the Most of Your Micro". So join Chris Serle, Ian McNaught-Davis and myself as we explore this wonderful magical world of the early 1980s.
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I love this kind of show! Do more of these man.
Me too. When computers were somehow just more fascinating. Now we've been spoiled.
That old lady was really something. She effortlessly took her knowledge from older tech and applied it to something completely new. I'd wager she stayed sharp even well past retirement with a mind like that.
Imagine what a pain in the ass debugging Stonehenge was..
But when it finally works, it is rock solid.
Left a bit. Right a bit. Wait for it....What, it didn't line up? Wait another year? Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!
Stonehenge was rebuilt in the early 20th century. Many to most of the stones had fallen over and so were restored to how they think they might have stood. If you look at paintings of stone henge from the 19th and 18th centuries, it's quite different from what we have today. The restoration work throughout the last century through to the 60s is hardly mentioned by English Heritige and of course it's not commonly known about to this day. Most people assuming the stones have stood in the same place for 4,000 years.
I knew about that. A lot of people objected to it, but I agreed with the rebuilding because it helped us understand how the civilization at the time viewed the world and used what they had to great effect.
I like watching Computer Chronicles :D
I have spoken to people before about the 80s being really spooky, dark, and having a really synthetic feeling and most don't know what I am talking about. Watch 80's daytime TV or 80's commercials on TH-cam and they are creepy as hell (especially tech).. I was born in early 84 and remember the 80s being dark..
I was more impressed with that old lady's door than any computer technology shown here!
Fuck me I recall watching this, when computing was truly exciting as fuck. :-)
Hanniffy Dinn then you mind must be blown by today's machines.
Rudofaux
Nope they are slow as fuck. What's impressive now is tablets. LIke my ipad is more powerful than a supercomputer from the 80s.
You know what I mean, things were so shiny new and exciting.
The only new thing this year is VR. It's just been the same but a bit faster.
But I've never had a computer that's as fast as me. I'm still waiting for things to happen.
The day when apps appear in 1 micro micro second will be a good day for me.
Things to me a still slow and sluggish.
Software has become fat as fuck.
By the Max Headroom was way ahead of it's time.
Hanniffy Dinn I see what you mean now.
Rudofaux
You must be max head room fan? Jesus even TV back then was more exciting......
Hanniffy Dinn yeah, me to 😁
I was a strapping 14yo lad when this was aired and i had just got my ZX81 the Christmas a few weeks before this aired. The "wall" game is a breakout clone, Arkanoid not being made until 1986 where as Breakout was created in 1976. I have fond memories of that guy (Ian McNaught-Davis) saying that computer games were a waste of time and the computers should be used for better things! Everybody i knew was telling our parents we needed them for school work but really we only wanted them to play games on! haha
Oh wow in the old lady's candy shop, that big vinyl dust cover she pulls off the PET. I used one of those in college in the 1980s for my Apple IIe. When did people quit using dust covers? Kind of silly.
I think I heard "Computerwelt" by Kraftwerk during the programme intro.
Didn't you?
Yes, Nostalgia Nerd, reel-to-reel computers were in a James Bond movie back in the day - It was Diamonds are Forever. Look it up.
The credits music is Kraftwerk - Computer World, in case you didn't recognize it.
16:29 Perfectly ordinary domestic cassette recorder... you know he had to catch a wild cassette recorder from a forest, like a wild cat, and tame it for household. .
Have to say that Computers + Internet, are blessing. And it's nice to see older people use them too. But some older people don't care/want and they stay in 60's. Sometimes it's sad that, older people that have no Internet and Computer in these days, have harder to get things to do as fast and easy way.
Chris Serle looks like a tall Mr bean
The chap at around 22:00 was absolutely right! Look at us now... Hope to see more of this series on my computer in the near nostalgic future ;)
Kraftwerk intro music!
The big computer is a mighty Cray I en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cray-1 .
Some of the predictions were remarkably accurate.
I has half expecting Synthesizer Patel to appear.
He couldn't make it. Someone burgled his house and stole all his synthesizers.
Yes, it's a shame.
Only if this guy at 18:40 knew that the more complex and less resources-consuming algorithms that are in use today are because of people back in the 80's were doing "silly games".....
Computers the size of filing cabinets!
Sound Effects are very much appreciated!!! ;)
computer chronicles eats this for breakfast
This programme aired five weeks before I was born (17/02/82) :O Talk about a life-long history lesson in IT :)
the Computers were inside us all along...
Any show that uses Kraftwerk music as their theme is a good show :).
Ha, going to love this. Watched this episode not that long ago, had no idea how condescending it was, mind you I was about 10 at the time I watched it first time round.
Do some Computer Chronicles after this series!
Wow! How ironically strange is that. In this video she types in the exact day of 911 but 20 years earlier to the day ( near 15:00 mark). I know the day existed but for you to randomly catch that day being entered in a PET on video is statistically weird.
I often find 80's shows dark because they remind me of nuclear PIFs (public information films) :-)
I think my dad bought me that book in the 80s
I was born in July 1982 and am from the US. I'd heard of this programme before, but had never seen it for fairly obvious reasons. I do love all things retro and technical, so this was wonderful. More please!
Adam Porter snap.... July 82
and title music by Kraftwerk
craig thomas kraftwerk really rocked 😎
i was in junior school lol born in 71
PMSL - DOT MATRIX SOUND EFFECT.... man... this is interpersonal - pass us a Stella? cheers....
This is simply brilliant 😄
I think there was an American version of this called" Computer Show".
He had no idea that computers will be billion times faster and fit in pocket.
And imagine what our future holds. When Star Trek TNG showed the digital tablet "PAD" devices I thought to myself; "We'll have those someday." Took 25 some-odd years but we do. And they do very much more than ST:TGN envisioned.
8:40 - Never run out of silicon maybe, but there's plenty of other rare earth metals used in chips that we really need to find alternatives for.
Magnesium, Radium, Barium, Niobium, Osmium, Cobalt, Manganese, Titanium, Hafnium, Tungsten, Germanium, Gold, Silver, Copper, Mercury, Bismeth, Silicon, Gallium, Zinc, Iron, Sulfur, Phosphorus, Cadmium, Palladium, Tantalum, Platinum, Aluminum, Carbon, Lead, Nickel, Boron, Chromium, Potassium, Fancium, Casium, Sodium, Lithium, Calcium, Nitrogen, Oxygen , Arsenic, neodymium, Selenium, & Tin............You really must be more precise boy!
Indeed, but it's so tedious to type them all out :)
japzone copy & paste them then.
+japzone
that's not completely true, rare earth are a lot of things, but they are not really rare. They are just rarely mined, because nobody had a lot of use for them, and existing mines satisfied demand. As now (eg due to smart phones) demand rises, so do the prices, which makes mining more profitable and will result in increased future supply.
+Jocko Homo
Yeah, with the slight problem that the most elements you mentioned here are not rare earth metals. Some are not even metals at all (except if you are an astronomer) like carbon and sulfur. Also there is no element Fancium, I guess you mean Francium and that is radioactive (all isotopes). I guess that's a thing you don't really want in high amounts in something you carry along with out all day, is it ?
Wow what a blast from the past...I was 8 years old when this first showed and computers were so exciting back then, still remember being blown away by a wristwatch that you could programme to play different melodies, wow are we spoilt today!!
The Beeb cannot search for anything because he didn't press play on the cassette recorder!
I think the real one was off camera somewhere!!😂😂😂😂
Yes, James Bond films from the 60's where you saw the giant spools turning in the background of the bad guys lair.😊
Clive Sinclair also wasn't't a fan of video games on his machines!😂
It's mad to think that computers weren't originally intended for video gaming.
Yes! Teletext was born from this!
12 october 1981.... I was barely 10 days old then. 0.0
ah so you're one of them new models then ^.^
Die Gutesten you were probably an egg
Ah ha, we couldn't get BBC2 with coat-hanger areal. That's why I don't remember the Computer Programme.
I'm now 35-45, with access to an almighty 80s Cray supercomputer shrunk down to pocket size. Just right for a spot of Angry Birds, Geometry Dash and watching the odd TH-cam video such as this one. Future predicting guy was totally right! ;-)
Kraftwerk still totally rocks! ✌
Funny how Computers just being used to play games is "degrading" and yet NOTHING has pushed technology harder than gaming... OH THE IRONICNESS
My gosh you can tell a lot of money was spent on producing this programme. I *think* I was around for the tail-end of these shows, and was very much in the BBC Micro era at infant school.
First of all, thanks for the episode. This is for you in general for whenever you upload these lovely episodes of random programmes from day's gone by. This/My arseholey rant here is not solely directed towards this episode alone.
Hey Peter! Dude... You can sometimes ruin uploads like this when you deny us from hearing what's actually quite interesting and educational/factual, with your (usually adorable) yet random... babble(?)... Next time, what you could do is either just be more mindful of your timing... *orrrrr* watch the episode you intend to upload in advance, and note on the timeline, the silent/non interesting gaps that you can then use to freely blab/sing (if in tune)/scream/whatever to, and all without causing audible obstructions to your loyal viewers!
YAAAY! and you're welcome! :D
p.s: Still love ya man...I know you we're trying not to talk over it much... so B+ for effort. Hope this comment didn't leave you feelin' a little butt hurt...
I loved this show, though I always wanted a more technically focussed show rather than all the fluff about sweetshop inventory. I was a 13 year old ZX81 user when this program aired and was writing my own BASIC games and apps. I never really found any of the computer/gaming TV shows did more than scratch the surface for me ... I suppose I just wasn't in the target demographic. Even so, I always enjoyed The Computer Programme and felt disappointed when each episode ended, leaving me wanting it to keep going for another half hour ... curiously, the same has just happened watching it here. Happy memories :-)
When this program was aired, I was a few months away from buying my first computer: a Sinclair ZX81, with 16K ram pack. I counted-down the days until it arrived, sealed in brown parcel paper. 16K was a lot of memory, and I thought I would never need another computer. How times change.
Remember the BBS's well, dialling the phone number of the BBS through the phone line via 9600 baud modem, just to say hi and back out before the phone bill comes in. lol
35 years ago, it's no time at all. I often ponder on what it will be like, even just a couple of generations from now. At least i grew up with the birth of the internet.
"10 minutes for particularly large game". That's if the C64 or ZX Spectrum didn't crash.
Well that brought back a few memories. I seem to remember watching this on a Sunday morning? Anyone remember?
1981...Damn I was 8 and I drooled over this show! I wanted a computer so bad after seeing this program. My dad, being a systems analist, was like: “why would we need a computer? That’s for serious demanding tasks”.
Later I realized myself that when you sit behind them programming all day, that there’s very little “fun” factor left. Ironically I play more on old emulators and hardware then I do on the new.
How we've changed. Growing up in the 80's, computers were so much more fascinating in some strange way.
I can't wait until everyone learns how to program a computer because of shows like this! ;-)
Jac Goudsmit I'd like for you to meet Steam Greenlight. Greenlight is what happens when anyone tries to program.
We had one session of using Prestel while at school (in the UK). Well, it was about 5-10 mins of the teacher showing us. It was too expensive to use for anything more than that. This would've been around 1987/88.
Not sure this is a great choice for riffing, it's so good that I'm just enjoying watching the show. Some real good fellas on the computer program. If you want something to talk over you should do games master. So many glorious tears from 90s children,so many cringey non-pc jokes from Dominic Diamond. So much 90s smack talk. You should do some commentaries for that. It's better fodder imho.
"Don't expect the computer revolution to happen tomorrow, it's happening now."
That was the 80's, today you should replace the word 'computer' buy the word 'robot'.
Wonderful to see this program. I was using a BBC back then, but I didn't watch TV. One notable thing about the programme is that it had a plan and a script (HINT! HINT!)
I wasn't even born at that time untill over 3,5 month's later.
It's laving how they said that the computer revolution was already started,hahahaha, i think the real full mainstream computer revolution happened in 1995 when win 95 & the internet was released for the mass.
The second revolution came in 2010 when everybody wanted the iphone 4 ,nowaday's computers. could fit in our pocked.
Backthen it was all slow,combersume,unfriendly and very primitive, but it's amezing that even their supercomputer could do weather predictions up to 10 day's ahead.
...didn't know about this one. - kinda cool seeing oldskool tv. yeah I was born in 82 lol..... it's like grabbing an old vhs and watching it with my nerdy mate at 3am.... thoroughly enjoyed this.... I was talking back at you lmao
Actually, I believe the term for the type of game on the BBC Micro would have been a 'Breakout Clone'. I think it was Atari that released 'Breakout' as an arcade game that first took off as a sort of 'Pong' variant. 'Arkanoid' came much later as a more involved version with powerups and many more bells and whistles as a 'Breakout clone'.
However if Arkanoid was your first real version of this sort of game then I understand why you would use the term 'Arkanoid clone' instead.
Thanks for sharing this. I love looking back at these old computer shows. Now where are my old Byte magazines? ...
lady with commodore pet - she's dead now I expect.... wander what she'd make of today?
- I know I've already said it, but I was wetting myself when you mentioned her till and door, crime stoppers ad etc..... pass another mate..
The guy with the glasses sounds uncannily like John Craven. I was working on something else and just listening to the vid and had to click over to actually check whether it was. But yeah, computers isn't what comes to mind when I think John Craven, more like sheepdogs. Newsround hasn't been the same since he left tho.
How many sugar bars she has to sell to buy that PET?
As much as the amount of Trading Cards you will have to sell on Steam to get Fallout 4 xD
More of this please.
Fantastic video! ohhh i miss the old days with my Talent msx, C128... typing software from magazines and losing it all after i turn off the system because i didnt have a datassete
casually sits down on a quarter million £ Cray supercomputer and waves his Spectrum about
Highly intriguing, do more of it. Ridiculing the absurd naivete (at least from today's point of view) more would also increase the fun factor.
Was it "from russia with love" something like that? I remember one of them had an AMAZING M.I.5 shot with a whole wall of reel-to-reel readers like that.
This was a fantastic show and much better watching as an adult than as a child when it aired. Your commentary always cracks me up as well 👍👍👍😂
"Don't expect the computer revolution to happen tomorrow, it's happening now."
Literally my favourite quote when it comes to this shit.
This takes me back, great to see how technology has advanced.I think in some way we have gone backwards.I used to love programming a computer but how many people program their pcs today?
Ian McNaughten doing his best Jacob Boronowski impression at Stonehenge!
I know what you mean about "deep memories" of this show. I would have been five years old when this aired so I was part of the generation who got a BBC Micro as a kid because it was what schools were using. Wish we never got rid of it, it was a lovely machine!
As for typing in a long listing for a game from a magazine, Atari User got it sorted with "Get It Right!", a checksum utility that published listings with a checksum at the end of each line, so you could see at a glance if you typed it in correctly. Very forward thinking, those Atari users ;)
Foebane72 Same in Micro User
+Foebane72
Checksums have been in use in computing long before Atari was even founded.
Frank Schneider
I don't doubt it. But Atari User was one of the magazines that implemented it for type-in listings, which was incredibly useful for such a time-consuming task. Believe me, I speak from experience!
Foebane72
I am old enough to perfectly remember HOW useful they indeed were. :-)
And I'm also old enough to recall the feeling of having seen Star Raiders on an Atari 400 for the first time.
You should do a few Tomorrows World programmes too. Loved that when I was a kid. Look Around You was a fantastic parody of it.
That's real cool being able to book a flight online back in '82, I thought using Travelocity for the first time was high tech...
yes I remember doing BASIC games, break out (arkanoid taito) and the like....
I absolutely pissed myself at your commentry on this vid!!Top man keep em coming ;-)
I need to know about the assembly language used on the Dragon 32 ?? thanks......
I can imagine that back in 82, when people were seeing home computers for the very first time that this must have been absolutely fascinating and amazing to see just the sheer potential of a new era.
More..More..More. this was great and like you I just about remember this as a young kids. please do more from the early years.
day night , night night day love it best one micro electwonic's hehe enjoyed that thankyou
03:20 You nailed it. This is always been my observation. The program even starts with the owl outside in the dark.
ahhhh, they were the days. I remember watching this programme, and all the other computer programs. I couldn't get enough of them. I had the oric computer when it came out, didn't really like it, then got the BBC model b 32k and still have it, and still love it and use it. it was my favourite computer, bloody expensive but bloody worth it. lol great video, keep em comin plz. 😁 👍 👍
Nobody liked the Oric.
Fruit Machines on Computers had a use if you bet against your friends on outcomes. No point if it`s just you though
"Just to put that into perspective". I'm trying to, but it's not working. ;)
This was fun to watch! And I liked it when you explained and named the things showing on screen! thx!
10:15 "Night after night" because it was common to submit processing jobs to be run overnight
That spread of excellent tech, just walks past like they are nothing.
I have to say this is one of the best if not the best youtube channel I have subscribed to!!!!!!! love all the history you get in almost all the episodes
@Nostalgia Nerd: You forgot the funny intro where they talk about Apples, Acorns, Pears, Bananas & Tangerines. The intro appears to be inspired by the BBC comedy series "Are You Being Served", from the 1970s and 1980s, with the store clerk playing the part of Mr Lucas. Just change the subject from micro computers to neck ties and it would be a bit straight out of Are You Being Served. Look for "Vintage Computing 1982 - BBC's The Computer Programme Episode 1" on
the "Salamanda UK" TH-cam channel to see the intro.
Apparently that sketch wasn't used on this original transmission - it was added for repeats in 1983, replacing the original "IT '82" opening.
having met Chris Serle in real life i can confirm: a) he's an extremely nice chap and b) he is, as you say, REMARKABLY tall
A mammoth man. It's sad to see that Ian McNaught passed away a couple of years ago however.
he did? man, that sucks! did you know he used to climb mountains as a hobby? A HOBBY
OneAngryDeacon yes! He was certainly waffley versatile.
wow this is golden. i haven't seen most of this channel's content, but this alone is sub worthy.
Someone should find out if they ever caught the guy in the crime watchers flyer the lady had by her cash register
Does any1 know about the Dragon 32 ????? thanks.......
The dot matrix printer sound LOLOLOLOLOL it was necessary