The Mario Game That Led to Bankruptcy

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 เม.ย. 2023
  • Video Game studio ALPHADREAM formed all the way back in the year 2000 by a group of former Square Enix employees. They would go on to create one of the most beloved Super Mario spinoff series', Mario & Luigi. They created Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga, Partners in Time, Bowsers Inside Story, Dream Team and Paper Jam.
    Although, ALPHADREAM declared bankruptcy over 3 years ago, on October 1st 2019. But how did the company go bankrupt when they had such a successful IP in their hands? What was really going on? Let's talk about it.
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  • @lizard.y
    @lizard.y  ปีที่แล้ว +223

    Thanks for watching!

    • @MeronSuikadoge
      @MeronSuikadoge ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm gonna miss captain goomba and the other 3

    • @Sam-jy5tf
      @Sam-jy5tf ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Great couple videos, definitely subbing.

    • @ED-gw9rg
      @ED-gw9rg ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you SO MUCH for this closure. My first 3DS game ever was Dream Team, and it's good to hear that there's a very small chance of Alphadream coming back (or are at least in good health since disbanding)!

    • @noysam3570
      @noysam3570 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This game is not the reason they went bankrupt. The real reason was the poor sales from the 2 previous games. Get your facts straight

    • @NitwitsWorld
      @NitwitsWorld ปีที่แล้ว

      @@noysam3570 he did dude 😂

  • @Mr_comical0
    @Mr_comical0 ปีที่แล้ว +800

    Rest in peace AlphaDream (2000-2019). You were not just a video game company, because you were a great one. 😞

  • @king_poyo64
    @king_poyo64 ปีที่แล้ว +573

    The only reason people hate on the Koopalings is because of new soup overusing them with actual demonstrating the full scope of their personalities.

  • @arkthegreenwolfx3627
    @arkthegreenwolfx3627 ปีที่แล้ว +816

    I am still holding out hope that Nintendo themselves will makes Mario& Luigi 6. My biggest fear however is, if they do... Will it go down the same direction Paper Mario went, because while I like Color Splash and Origami King, there's a shift in soul for them, and I'd argue for Mario&Luigi, a shift in soul would be a fate worse than cancelation.

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  ปีที่แล้ว +132

      Yeah, that's a big question about the future of the series, and something I definitely plan on talking about in the future

    • @TheQuickGoodie
      @TheQuickGoodie ปีที่แล้ว +55

      It's a really really huge pipe dream since if nintendo did hire a new studio to make a new mario and luigi game fans will complain about the game "not being the same" so the mario and luigi franchise is pretty much dead at this point..

    • @Irreve-rsible
      @Irreve-rsible ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I think they do plan to continue the series to be honest. As they did renew the M&L Trademark pretty recently, which could just be for brand protection, but it does mean they still plan on keeping atleast the trademark alive and active.

    • @buzzytrombone4353
      @buzzytrombone4353 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I see them doing it the same way they rebooted Donkey Kong Country in 2010. Keeping the gameplay the same but making it harder, and having a small portion of the characters from the original series return along with some brand new ones or some characters that aren’t used as often in the main Super Mario games.

    • @therealjaystone2344
      @therealjaystone2344 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mario + Rabbids really successful that there won’t be a Mario and Luigi

  • @d-tergent7899
    @d-tergent7899 ปีที่แล้ว +483

    Bowser Jr's Journey is an exceptionally written side mode and it's a shame more people didn't play it

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Agreed!

    • @Tech_Marauder
      @Tech_Marauder ปีที่แล้ว +63

      I played through all of bowsers minions becuase the story was great. Unfortunately, the gameplay experience was one of if not the worst I’ve had in 10 years. It’s just so mind numbingly slow and uninteractive. Did not touch jr’s journey.

    • @jayo1212
      @jayo1212 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yeah, I like how it really explores Bowser Jr's relationship with the Koopalings...

    • @themostcertified4377
      @themostcertified4377 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Tech_Marauder sounds like an attention span issue

    • @Tinaphromad
      @Tinaphromad ปีที่แล้ว +47

      @@themostcertified4377 or just a gameplay issue, or should I say a lack of gameplay issue.

  • @_G.C
    @_G.C ปีที่แล้ว +286

    It's nice that junior's speech at the end wasn't just played off for a joke, it's actually his take on the morality of what they're doing, which is interesting because bowser's reasoning is usually just "hehehehe, I'm just that kinda guy"

    • @marphy1451
      @marphy1451 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy read again, the other comment is saying BJr inherited the brattiness from Bowser, and that the latter showed such tendencies in Yoshi's island

    • @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy
      @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@marphy1451 I didn't read the his father part my b, I thought it just said his personallity as a whole got the brattiness in the Yoshi's Isalnd series

  • @giovanniascione4552
    @giovanniascione4552 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    This was by far the best spinoff series (not counting paper mario) such a shame to see it end like this

    • @malikmcdowell7006
      @malikmcdowell7006 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      M&L is better than paper Mario

    • @HeftyDan
      @HeftyDan ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The best spinoff series is Mario Kart, but I did like this one

  • @LordBob
    @LordBob ปีที่แล้ว +210

    Call me a conspiracy theorist, but Nintendo releasing this game the same day as NSMBUD while marketing that one way more than BIS makes me feel that they just wanted to get rid of Mario and Luigi as a series. Given what happened with Paper Mario as an RPG it wouldn't surprise me.

    • @thepresidentjulius3820
      @thepresidentjulius3820 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Why would they do that?, isn't Mario & Luigi a beloved spin-off?, Heck BiS is probably one of the Best games that came out of Mario as a whole

    • @neffrey
      @neffrey ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Companies don’t usually actively attempt to burn money on purpose to “get rid of” franchises. Nintendo could just… not keep making the franchise if they really hated it all that much.

    • @Buglin_Burger7878
      @Buglin_Burger7878 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@thepresidentjulius3820 Because besides the fact Miyamoto was involved a lot in clipping the wings of stories M&L was getting some backlash for trading away creativity in the remakes.
      People wanted creativity and both RPGs Nintendo had with Mario were clipped coincidentally.
      It is weirdly consistent how they both ended up having to give up aspects of their freedom, one leading to a fanbase at war with itself the other dead. There was obviously some in company dislike for both and likely it was do to these outdoing mainline games.
      Rather then up the quality of mainline Mario it is easier to remove the quality so the company as a whole doesn't take fault and backlash.

    • @Klonoahedgehog
      @Klonoahedgehog ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@thepresidentjulius3820 Both Mario RPG's just so happenned to die off.
      I'm not normally one for conspiracies but something there stinks. Especially when you remember that Mario RPG characters never show up in other Mario games like parties or kart.

    • @user-og8jy1ib7f
      @user-og8jy1ib7f ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think I remember in an interview Miyamoto was stated to have hated how the RPG's added lore to the Mario Universe without miyamoto's permission. Which is why paper Mario started to only have plain toads as the npcs.

  • @Hebleh
    @Hebleh ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Im just glad the workers are okay. They were very talented and deserved the best

  • @erika_fuzzbottom
    @erika_fuzzbottom ปีที่แล้ว +203

    Still seems kinda bogus that Nintendo wouldn't save one of their most important third-party developers.
    But this is the same company who let Rare get acquired by Microsoft.

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Agreed, but I guess we'll find out who's handling Mario & Luigi in the coming years (hopefully) whether it's Nintendo internally or another 3rd party studio

    • @yoso378
      @yoso378 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I understand the sentiment but honestly I don't know if Rare would have been much better if they stayed with Nintendo. We'd most likely just see their Xbox games on the gamecube. It's also worth mentioning that Nintendo are the ones to blame for dinosaur planet becoming a Starfox game and all the development trouble that resulted from that. Who knows what other things they could have negatively affected.
      We probably would have gotten Conker Live and Reloaded uncensored though lol

    • @erika_fuzzbottom
      @erika_fuzzbottom ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I know Kameo: Elements of Power was originally slated as a GameCube title. We also might've got that Donkey Kong racing game they were working on.

    • @Mario87456
      @Mario87456 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      For SOME reason they just let Alpha Dream DIE which is a HUGE dick move.

    • @wubbers662
      @wubbers662 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They weren't going to make console games EVER, only mobile games. Infact, they made a mobile game with a Playstation mobile phone company that failed, which was the final nail.

  • @barelyhere7200
    @barelyhere7200 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    I bought this game the day it came out. I actually didn’t touch the main story at all. The only reason I bought the game was for the Bowser Junior‘s journey mode. I thought the mode was really good. Just something fun to do in short little bursts, and I also thought the story was easily the best Mario story we’ve gotten in years. It wasn’t until months later I actually decided to play the main game

    • @ttheyolkguy5936
      @ttheyolkguy5936 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Suprised to see someone else with such a based opinion. Thought I was the only one lol

  • @StopSignButGreen
    @StopSignButGreen ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I miss AlphaDream. Mario and Luigi games will always be one of my favorite game series. I will forever remember the memories the games gave me, ESPECIALLY dream team. That game was so creative and fun, and while I haven't played partners in time or superstar saga so I don't know if those mechanics were reused, dream team will probably be one of my favorite games like... ever. Its super sad to see them have gone bankrupt, and even though I knew about the situation long before, It's STILL heartbreaking. I'm trying to express how much I wish they were back and still making these games, but I don't know if there's even a word for how much I long for it. The games felt so new and even though I never beat a single one of them, even just restarting them over and over again cause I was stuck felt so fresh and fun every time. The mix between top down and 2d platformer is such a great concept and I wish that it was used more. I like them more then just the mainline Mario games, I swear, if I had three wishes I guarantee one of them would be to bring AlphaDream back. Anyways now im going to sleep g'night

  • @MrFyer2
    @MrFyer2 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    Thank you for making this. It makes me feel special being someone that beat the entire remake and side mode 100%.
    I’m glad to know that the developers of my favorite series ever are doing alright even if they are now working other jobs.
    Rest in Peace Alphadream, and thank you for making our childhoods so much more special

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Of course! Congrats on fully finishing the side mode lol

    • @NaveRellim34
      @NaveRellim34 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@Lizardy it's actually surprisingly fun even though the story makes no sense🤣

    • @ZachPlum
      @ZachPlum ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did it too, first person I’ve seen who also has

    • @Skyrus456
      @Skyrus456 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The original BIS was my first RPG game and I feel absolutely in love. Without AlphaDream, I would never gotten the opportunity and drive to have played some my personal favorite and IMO games that .Ade my GOATs list. They introduced me to my favorite genre in gaming, and I couldn't be happier to know that they are doing alright; even still working hard and keeping in contact with each other in the gaming industry.
      Thank you for making this video! Brought me some well-needed and overdue closure on AlphaDream.

  • @Ridlay_
    @Ridlay_ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    It’s so sad Nintendo didn’t buy them. I swear Nintendo always seems to fail at picking those companies that have done so much good for them in their time of need, like Alphadream, or of course, Rareware. Heck I was surprised they actually picked up Next Level Games, so at least one survived.

  • @adrianrandom3448
    @adrianrandom3448 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I'm still so sad, I wish it had happened differently.
    I truly do think a Partners in Time remake would have done a lot better, however I'm really happy to hear that one of the reasons it happened to BiS is that they wanted to expand the story.
    I get sad thinking of what could have been, cause when you think about it there's still so much we could have gotten, games with peach as a party member, Jr or the koopalings as party members (hell add Kamek in there too), so much to see still.
    It makes me happy they still keep contact atleast, and have jobs.

    • @artexjay
      @artexjay ปีที่แล้ว +6

      it would have mostly because they could play into the cuteness of the baby characters. Plus PiT was one of those sequels that many people missed because they stayed on GBA and got their DS after the game stopped being sold.

  • @Gamer1288
    @Gamer1288 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    The funny thing is that I fully completed the Side-Mode but forgot to go back to the Main Mode and finish the game. I was just before Dark Fawful too.

  • @bartzacky9639
    @bartzacky9639 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Sad because Paper Mario is just “new direction” and M&L is under dormant. Rabbids seems to carry the RPG spirit, but it’s future is uncertain due to Ubisoft’s absurdity antics on sales.

  • @nobodyiswatchingvideos
    @nobodyiswatchingvideos ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Bowser Jr’s Journey may not be the best gameplay wise, but it is GENUINELY one of me and my sister’s favorite games to revisit the cutscenes of! We find the story both absolutely bonkers and surprisingly more than serviceable to these characters and their dynamics! It’s such a fun watch for so many reason!

  • @YanntastischGER
    @YanntastischGER ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The scene where Bowser Jr is asked "Are you evil?" will accompany my forever.

  • @josephholt4736
    @josephholt4736 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I also heard that the game didn't sell to great because it was released the same day as New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe, and that game sold more than Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr's Journey.

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yup, that was also a factor, wish a brought that up haha

  • @Juli_is_Online
    @Juli_is_Online ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I miss Alphadream every day…man are the M&L games special. Maybe one day we’ll get a new one. Some day…
    Had to go listen to Travelling about on a Journey of Memories once again after this vid in memory of Alphadream. So thankful for all the joy and amazing times and memories everyone that worked on those games has managed to bring me time and time again. Memories that will never die

  • @Introbulus
    @Introbulus ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I didn't even realize there was an entire Koopaling-filled side-plot in the Inside Story remake.
    I can't believe it got so little attention and love, with how great those characters are and all.
    Thank you for digging into all this and finding all this out.

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  ปีที่แล้ว

      Of course!

  • @FloridusMan
    @FloridusMan ปีที่แล้ว +15

    You know its sad because there was effectively no way out of this, the game was designed for a dual screen and such things can't be done on the Switch and also not to mention that the touch screen elements wouldn't feel that great on a Switch either especially if your someone who prefers to play on a pro controller of use the tv to play your Switch games.

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, it likely would've cost too much to much to change everything to make it work on Switch

    • @jasonjungreis203
      @jasonjungreis203 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think it could have worked, but it would certainly have been more expensive.

  • @cmoney8979
    @cmoney8979 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bowser Jr amd The Koopalings are by far my favorite characters and it's sad to see that the game that have them the spotlight and story is the same game that ruined the series

  • @floofiekun1875
    @floofiekun1875 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Is it wrong to help my dad take over the Mushroom Kingdom" sounds like a Japanese anime series

  • @HybridAngelZero
    @HybridAngelZero ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Honestly, I'm so, so happy to know that the former Alpha Dream employees are still working in the industry and still keep in contact.
    As for M&L, I'm actually okay with the series being over. I'd just like the series to get ports to Switch (or whatever future Nintendo consoles)

  • @BirdieSenpai
    @BirdieSenpai ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Hamtaro and Mario & Luigi games are some of my favorites from my late childhood and early adulthood, and I appreciate the work and soul they put into those games more than I can say. They went beyond the usual formula of "Mario gotta save Peach" and "Hamtaro and friends solve a problem" by creating unique characters, scenarios, and worlds not present in the source material in ways that elevate the Marioverse and the Hamtaroverse to new levels that wouldn't have been reached otherwise. Fawful's mustard of doom will always have a special place in my heart.

  • @Sweetie.21
    @Sweetie.21 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I never heard people say they wanted Partners In Time (PIT) remastered because it would be the natural order for them to be remade in (since Superstar Saga (1st game) was already remade and Dream Team (4rd game) was already in the 3DS style). Although I don’t doubt there are people who’ve said that though, just personally didn’t encounter them myself.
    The reason I heard from most people to remake PIT over BIS (Bowser’s Inside Story) is that PIT was overall considered the weakest in the series and therefore it deserved the remake more (so the bad things could be changed/removed).
    I do genuinely love PIT, but I probably wouldn’t have bought the remake unless it turned out to be miles better, because I do love the original style much more. It’s charming and it shows it’s age and style, simple and yet very expressive.
    I did not buy the remake for BIS, I actually despise it. I would’ve bought it for the extra mode, if they had kept the original sprites. I despise it for two reasons (that I remember), lag/frame rate and appearance.
    By watching reviews I’ve seen quite a bit of people at the time say that the frame rate/lag in game often made them miss moves, making it not that fun to play at times. Not sure if that is still true, but it seemed to be a big issue from what I remember.
    But most of all I hate the appearance of the surroundings being more realistic looking in BIS. I start to feel ill when I see guts and stuff, so then being more 3D and colored like that made choosing a version to buy very easy for me. No one wants to play a game that makes them feel nauseous after all.

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Oh yeah, there were multiple reasons people wanted PiT remade. The frame drops were apparently a bad issue, but from what I've seen after version 1.2 it got significantly better
      Personally, I didn't see any issue with the remade Bowsers body locations, didn't look too realistic from my viewpoint, but I understand that

    • @Sweetie.21
      @Sweetie.21 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lizard.y
      I think because it seems to have more depth in the remake and more accurate colors to that inside of the human body (like reds, pinks, oranges and yellows), that’s probably what makes it feel more realistic and icky to me. Like the ground they stand on when hammering energy into Bowser’s muscles. Also backgrounds seem to have been changed if I’m not mistaken, one kind of looks like a green virus in the background, which I really don’t like looking at, if believe that one was in the very beginning of the game.
      I don’t remember much about other visual differences, but I do remember finding it hard to watch gameplay of the new one because of the style making it look more ‘real’ with its colors and depth.
      Edit: Just looked up a comparison video and the virus looking thing is literally on the 3DS remake’s title screen.

    • @Tech_Marauder
      @Tech_Marauder ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Never noticed any frame rate issues with it

    • @Sweetie.21
      @Sweetie.21 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tech_Marauder
      Lizardy said it got patched in the 1.2 version

  • @yvthanrosemary1324
    @yvthanrosemary1324 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The graphics were not exactly "upgraded" the beautiful 2D sprite expressions and smoothness were lost

  • @chaosbringer2659
    @chaosbringer2659 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Okay I'm sorry I know iggy survived but THE BFFS JUST FUCKIN PUSH HIM OFF A CLIFF

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      FR THAT WAS SO OUT OF POCKET WHY DID THEY DO THAT TO MY BOY 😭😭

    • @chaosbringer2659
      @chaosbringer2659 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ikr he's my favourite:

  • @TheGamerninja15
    @TheGamerninja15 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The other reason why this game got a remake in 2019 is because of the game's 10th anniversary as it released in 2009

  • @641mamaluigi
    @641mamaluigi ปีที่แล้ว +12

    If it wasn’t for alpha dream things would be very different for me, when I was much younger I played the original bowsers inside story and I’ve bonded with a friend during my school years where I didn’t have many friends, it was a release from the tough school life

  • @CriticalChaosx
    @CriticalChaosx ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If they did a similar minions side story for the Partners in Time remake they could’ve added Fawful as the main character and show how he met Midbus

  • @beemansgaming
    @beemansgaming ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was such a random video for me to come across, but MAN did it make me realize how much I loved playing some of the later M&L entries on my 3ds a couple years ago. I shed a tear, and its really uplifting to know most of the team is still doing well. Thank you for this video, its made my week!!

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That means so much to me thank you so much!!

  • @EpochFlame
    @EpochFlame ปีที่แล้ว +7

    glad the devs are doing okay.

  • @theultimateswagon
    @theultimateswagon ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well said. RIP Alphadream, but glad to hear the devs themselves are okay

  • @Max-rv8mu
    @Max-rv8mu ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I actually prefer bowser jr’s journey I love an adventure with the koopalings

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Same! The Koopalings are some of my favorite characters in the Mario universe, I love how they're characterized here

  • @jpuc5568
    @jpuc5568 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The issue wasn’t that the 3ds was getting games the issue was they weren’t doing cross platform releases for some reason. Can’t get over the fact we lost og luigis mansion to a platform with less than two years of life left

  • @pksprite6401
    @pksprite6401 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! Cool research too, really well done. Happy everyone landed on their feet, BiS is one of my favorites.

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much!!!

  • @lile3630
    @lile3630 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank u so much ❤❤
    I really loved how you treat the nostalgia we have, this is the kind of video that makes my day better, from now on I'm your subscriber 199

    • @lile3630
      @lile3630 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Also you should have more subscribers, I thougth you were at least 100 k while I was seeing

    • @lile3630
      @lile3630 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I really like the effort you make, and really want to see you at 1k

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks you so much!

  • @Avathestarwarrior
    @Avathestarwarrior ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This video was pretty well made! Good job and keep up the great work.

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much!

  • @Mister_Awesome
    @Mister_Awesome ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Been watching your videos back to back and honestly I’m really impressed you my friend have gained a new subscriber. Can’t wait to see more content!

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much!!!

  • @YanntastischGER
    @YanntastischGER ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks so much for this video and getting into contact with a dev! Alpha Dream and Mario & Luigi were my childhood and biggest inspiration. When I heard they went bankrupt out of nowhere, I don't need to say how depressed I was and still am. But simply hearing that the devs are all good made me cry from happiness. :3
    Also I absolutely loved the remakes. I too think they would've been better on the switch, doesn't change that the new graphics were beutiful and the side modes are so fun, I want to make a full fangame just based on Bowser's Mnions since then.

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  ปีที่แล้ว

      Of course! I do really hope one day Nintendo or another dev could remaster the side-games with improved gameplay for Switch one day.

  • @FluxSkies
    @FluxSkies ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the improvement between each of the 3 M&L games will always be unmatched, they’re forever in my heart

  • @buzzlightyearpfp7641
    @buzzlightyearpfp7641 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    if alphadream made Bowsers Inside Story 2, they'd clearly be a multi quadrillion dollar company by now

  • @powerbolt2846
    @powerbolt2846 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    i knew this was gonna be bowser jrs journey,was incredibly saddening watching one of my favourite series die on a mediocre note

  • @Big_Man_W
    @Big_Man_W ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video ! I miss this series

  • @Venty179
    @Venty179 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro thanks for investigating all this and sharing this update about Alphadream! While the chances of them ever coming back for M&L6 are basically none, the fact that they’re still in touch with each other gives me at least the smallest glimmer of hope that the team reuniting for another project may happen one day.

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed! The team may be separated between different studios now, but there's always the chance Nintendo will recruit them for something.

  • @ssj4gogeta130
    @ssj4gogeta130 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If Bowser’s Inside Story DX was on Switch instead of 3DS AD would probably still be in business!

  • @themachoechidnaugandarandy7583
    @themachoechidnaugandarandy7583 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How the hell did people hate these? I friggin played this more than the game it's on. I would always have 2 of every type and buff the leaders

    • @M0mazosMissy
      @M0mazosMissy ปีที่แล้ว

      They just preffered the original

  • @juliankaper6428
    @juliankaper6428 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey! Great job with this video! I've been searching info on Alphadream for a couple of days now until i got here and you made a great investigation work! I love seing growing YT channels (I have a Star Wars one with similar subs than yours) going this far in the work! I'l be watching the rest of your videos! Regards from Argentina!

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much!!
      I’ve been documenting more small info on the company recently, just a few days ago the website url has been bought and redirects to a casino site, and apparently by the time ALPHADREAM was near bankruptcy, they didn’t even own an office, but instead rented one out from a company called SERVCORP

  • @queenofnerds7135
    @queenofnerds7135 ปีที่แล้ว

    RIP Alphadream. You made my one of my favourite game series of all time. You are missed

  • @DefinitivNichtSascha
    @DefinitivNichtSascha ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Now, this is definitely going into conspiracy theory-levels, but I think Nintendo and the Mario Mandate might have a hand in all of this.
    After Super Paper Mario came out, Nintendo became a lot more strict on what was permissable to do with the Mario IP. You all probably know how it goes and how Sticker Star's devs were told to only use pre-established content from the series.
    Now, I think that AlphaDream had some backbone and rebelled against this mandate. They made Dream Team and packed it full of original and interesting characters regardless, so Nintendo doubled down on the mandate with Paper Jam and kept a close eye on them. When AlphaDream realised they could not make new games with original content anymore, they just decided to remake old games that still had original content. And with these remakes, they could still use original characters they'd established beforehand, like Fawful, so it was something at least. They even tried to implement original characters with the Best Fitness Friends. And at this point, I think Nintendo just had enough and stopped supporting them, giving them less of an opportunity to advertise or receive financial support.
    Again, none of this is based on anything but pure speculation, but I think that it's not entirely out of question that something akin to this might've happened in at least some form.

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Good theory, only thing that contradicts this is something I'll touch on in Part 2, Alphadream said in an interview it was their choice to make Paper Jam more generic, but that could've been a lie. I also think Dream Team mighve been too far into development they didn't wanna change all of the character designs because of the Mandates

    • @ericwijaya2119
      @ericwijaya2119 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bro Mario never had a mandate to begin with

  • @latexu9589
    @latexu9589 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:13 Also little strange (and understandable), how they flipped the view in Giant Bowser fights, so that the touch screen was on the right side. This was probably done because most of the world's people are right-handed, but for myself it was a lot trickier because I'm a lefty. Luckily the original had it on the left side, so it felt more natural for me.

  • @diseasedrat8813
    @diseasedrat8813 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I honestly have no idea if their gonna try to revive it for the Switch themselves or not since AlphaDream is well dead, it was quite popular with good sales but they don't talk about it much so I dunno

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think they will eventually, it wad a decently popular series, it's just a matter of if Nintendo Japan realizes the remake sold bad not because people didn't like the series, but because it was on a dying system

  • @Real_temmie_undertalo
    @Real_temmie_undertalo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would have loved to see partners in time remastered, It was my favorite... R.I.P. AlphaDream.

  • @Cyndillquil
    @Cyndillquil ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I miss this series so bad. I just bought Paper Jam so I can actually give it another shot and finish it after dismissing it as bad for so many years but it and it has some of the best (and some of the worst ngl) bosses in the series with some really cool new and returning special attacks and it reminded me just how much I adore this series from a gameplay aspect and the humor is some of the best even though most of the charm is gone. No other RPG is like the M&L games and it just really sucks that it’s pretty much dead at this point. But I am glad to see the ol’ devs are doing well for themselves!

  • @ShadeMeadows
    @ShadeMeadows ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I still pray that Alphadream returns...

  • @extremmefan7305
    @extremmefan7305 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Knowing the team still keeps in contact and are all mostly doing well is amazing to hear.
    We'll miss their time together as AlphaDream, but just hearing that these highly talented people managed to keep going despite the company's fate is a great relief. If I could remember names, I'd definitely be excited to see them involved with other properties I like.
    (Since you mentioned SEGA and also mentioned that AD helped on the Olympics, I think it's safe to say that that experience gave them a great contact. SEGA of Japan being surprisingly based for once)

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed, I wouldn't be suprised if a lot went to SEGA.

  • @giggymuun
    @giggymuun ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Funny how people hated that Nintendo still made games on a dead system, here we are today.

    • @Solaceon
      @Solaceon ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Honestly! If the 3DS was such a "dead console", why was the closure of the eShop so protested? Why did everyone run to buy games and mod their systems if no one cared anymore? Why can I still find people online to play with?
      I wish the 3DS was as respected as its previous versions. That system was the backbone of my high school years and early adulthood. But by then, it wasn't yet old enough to be nostalgic. No one missed it yet. :(

    • @Tinaphromad
      @Tinaphromad ปีที่แล้ว

      If you're talking about the switch then you're completely wrong

    • @grunkleg.3110
      @grunkleg.3110 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@Solaceon There's always a rush to buy things when any store closes its doors, and as long as people like the games, you'll still find people who want to play online. The 3DS was dead both because of very poor game sales and that no one was gonna buy a brand new 3DS when you could just buy a Switch instead.

    • @giggymuun
      @giggymuun ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tinaphromad you know what i mean.

  • @StevieJ3698
    @StevieJ3698 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was one of the 40% (20,000) that got through everything on this game. And this is by far my favourite Mario and Luigi game of them all. And I'm not biased, I hated this game when I first picked it up and gave it no chance because of how slow it was. But when I got over the slowness of it and tried to get through it properly i loved everything it had to offer. Has the best writing of them all and the bowser jr side mode is a massive improvement over the previous Bowser's minions one. And we all know Bowser's inside story is brilliant in general.
    I will forever stand by this game as one that alpha dream should be proud of no matter what the statistics say.
    Glad the team is are all doing and thankyou so much for the research you did.

  • @PixelShiftss
    @PixelShiftss ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Man I still completely miss ML series, I bet if they remastered it for the switch and not the 3DS they would’ve been good to go, since the switch was a money making machine lol

  • @ZachPlum
    @ZachPlum ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I bought this game, the side mode was awesome. I suggest people pirate it if they can, it’s super good. I have not seen it for sale in years

  • @Something_Maybe
    @Something_Maybe ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There’s probably a reason why they didn’t, but Nintendo should have given Alphadream more money to make the Bowser’s inside journey remake for switch.

  • @4thelols740
    @4thelols740 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Absolutely loved this video, thanks for getting some closure about AlphaDream as they literally made my favorite game of all time. I also wanted to ask if you had any form of contact social media wise as I wanted to ask a bit more about your experience with researching AlphaDream (if that’s cool of course) :) again super dope video, you earned a sub!

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much! I don't know if I'd be able to anwser your question, but my email should be on the "About" page on my TH-cam channel

  • @dracogram9580
    @dracogram9580 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I thought this was talking about Nintendo going bankrupt,I was so happy at the thought of that but I guess an actually good company has to take the L,
    ☹️.

  • @aureliamastergoomba1278
    @aureliamastergoomba1278 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    rip Alpha Dream

  • @GottaFistDemAll
    @GottaFistDemAll ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I personally think the Minion Quests that started in the Superstar Saga was once a game project AlphaDream was working on, until they realized it wasn't enough for a full game, so they started on the Remake so it won't be wasted. It just feels that way considering how a majority of the character designs and some enemies were modernized and lost a lot of their uniqueness, or replaced with another modern character.

  • @reneezmp
    @reneezmp ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow, I’d never had imagined the story behind this game and company if not for your effort here! Thanks for sharing this with us.
    It’s sad to see such a brilliant company’s downfall. I wonder if any other games from this series might be produced in the future…. I don’t know who holds the rights to the series hahaha

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ofc! Hopefully another great studio will be able to pick up the series soon

  • @brunettebi4111
    @brunettebi4111 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's sad that we will never have a sixth game. Maybe if Nintendo and Alphadream made smarter decisions...
    Seriously, a Mario & Luigi game on the Switch would've been so cool.

  • @zzstrife4925
    @zzstrife4925 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Luigi’s mansion remake on the 3DS might be one of the most tone deaf decisions Nintendo has ever made

  • @Buglin_Burger7878
    @Buglin_Burger7878 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is really weird how both Mario & Luigi and Paper Mario had things going on in the background that led to major issues.
    Enemies forced to become more generic and losing personality was a big thing. It feels like Nintendo or someone in it wanted to clip the wings of creativity that outdid what was often in the mainline games and made the mainline look dull comparatively.

  • @lompass379
    @lompass379 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never really got to the M&L on the 3ds, but the first 3 are still one of my most fond gaming memories...

  • @dylanparisotto1084
    @dylanparisotto1084 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i proudly played and enjoyed both Bowser's Minions and Bowser Jr.'s Journey

  • @DiamondDarrien
    @DiamondDarrien ปีที่แล้ว +2

    tbh, I'm one of the people that actually really liked playing the remake of M & L Bowser Inside Story, and I had a lot of fun on the game. I have both original and remake version of the game too.

  • @superduperdrew12345
    @superduperdrew12345 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Situations like this is what lead to some people thinking it was their civic duty to financially support nintendo for a while around the wii u and 3ds era

    • @M0mazosMissy
      @M0mazosMissy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Ya deja de llorar mamá no ves que me gaste el dinero para tus operaciones en productos de Nintendo, la Gran N nos necesita se esta recuperando de la crisis de la Wii U seguro eres #Hater"

  • @Waffletigercat
    @Waffletigercat ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I actually really enjoyed the BIS remake, including the Bowser Jr’s Journey sub-game.

  • @Raikuthedragon
    @Raikuthedragon ปีที่แล้ว

    I really hope one day, there will be a comeback. I really love the Mario and Luigi series, i played all of them except superstar saga. And enjoyed them.

  • @alfasilverblade
    @alfasilverblade ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nintendo put the original Mario n Luigi on the Switch online Expansion Pack. Probably didnt have to pay Alpha Dream anything.

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah they didn't, since they're defunct and they already own full rights

  • @kolkagaming1234
    @kolkagaming1234 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I can’t believe that Bowsers inside story + Bowser Jr’s journey’s poor sales was what caused alphadream to go bankrupt.

  • @chasemitchell6155
    @chasemitchell6155 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You try so hard on your videos I truly believe you should have at least 10ksubs by now and 1 million views

  • @ElectroBlastLuigi
    @ElectroBlastLuigi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't know AlphaDream was having a hard time. This makes me feel bad for the employees more than ever. I wish they could offered to bring Bowser's Inside Story to the Switch. Partners in Time could've been remade sooner along with Superstar Saga instead of waiting until the 3DS was on its last legs but I understand the company was trying to keep up with other projects since The Year of Luigi.

  • @montydoesgames
    @montydoesgames ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If the M&L series is never getting a sequel, then I at least hope we get a Dream Team port/remake for the switch. That game is brilliant af

  • @grifleep4916
    @grifleep4916 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Alright guys that's my queue. Time to make the bug fables for this series.

  • @MRDarkman
    @MRDarkman ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I own the original game, but also bought the remake on Day 1 it finally released in Europe.
    I honestly prefer the remake for its graphics, no mic usage, harder boss battles and stuff.
    I do not mind the 30 FPS, but of course I won't deny that there is quite a few bugs that can come up, and certain replaced sounds that do not feel as good as the original (Luigi faking illness in the Clinic).
    But aside that, I still prefer the original and I love what it added: Cheese for Bowser, Rank up bonuses, more gear, no mic, Super Bouncer being very satisfying to use,...
    I played the sidemode after beating the main story again, it was alright in gameplay, I also did enjoy Minion Quest, but Bowser Jr's Journey was better with the extra features they added + The story and cutscenes were amazing!
    Lately when I decide to replay Bowser's Inside Story, my choice will most often be the remake, but ocassionally I will pick up the original for nostalgia.

  • @idontchuckle6658
    @idontchuckle6658 ปีที่แล้ว

    The one thing I liked about Bowser jr's journey was the development of the Koopalings who have had, like, zero character before and were just boss battle characters.

  • @dannyprickle7312
    @dannyprickle7312 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My hypothesis about them losing so much money is that they went too ambitious with Dream Team. It's a much longer game than all the others before it and has a lot of 3D assets which I'm pretty sure is something the devs never did before. And after the game didn't sell enough to make back how much they spent on making it, they tried to get even with reusing their engine for remakes. It's really sad. They tried to bite off more than they could chew and it led them to their end.
    But hey, we got some great games out of it at least.

  • @JezElectro13
    @JezElectro13 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i would wish AlphaDream to return somehow but i don't know if it would be good idea

  • @EscarBOOM
    @EscarBOOM ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video boss, you plan on talking about Gimmick Land/Tomato Adventure by any chance in the future? As the mega-leaked GBC prequel recently got a fan translation and all!

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! That's an idea for the future, I recently found something about Tomato Adventure not many people know about, it'd also give me a good excuse to finally play the game more lol.

  • @tigerrace9989
    @tigerrace9989 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Larry is supposed to be the leader of the koopalings

    • @larrykoopa64dshacker64
      @larrykoopa64dshacker64 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Larry is not the leader of the Koopalings and isn't supposed to be. Smash spread misinformation, it's not even in character for him to be a leader as you can see in Minion Quest when he says he isn't even gonna try very hard and that he doesn't even wanna be captain because it's too much hassle. Larry considers it too much hassle to lead others.

  • @yg6484
    @yg6484 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s cool to see someone who probably a former plushtuber get blessed by the algorithm. I subbed.

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah I just really love blue toad plush, thanks tho!

  • @loading....001
    @loading....001 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "The death of a company" - The death of one if my favorite series as well... Still don't know why people hate paper jam and dream team, they felt like fun diversities of the M&L series... Still... Why'd it have to happen to ALPHADREAM of all companies...

  • @tonys6620
    @tonys6620 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    predicting based off the thumbnail: Koopalings, modern designs; might be 1990 Mario World or Superstar Saga. Kamek included; modern game? Was the last game from a game developer. Conclusion: Bowser's Minions. 😤
    HOLY SHIT I GOT IT RIGHT

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      congrats!!

  • @supersmily5811
    @supersmily5811 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:35 Okay but that's actually a really good line.

  • @uhhh_adam
    @uhhh_adam ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the vid 👍

    • @lizard.y
      @lizard.y  ปีที่แล้ว

      Of course!

  • @donaldwithagat8537
    @donaldwithagat8537 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Im still sad about what happened to these guys. I boot up the original inside story and dream team every now and again because they are legitimately my favorite mario games ever made. Missed Superstar and Partners in time tho (paper jam didn’t look appealing)

  • @four_.._.
    @four_.._. ปีที่แล้ว

    Man i miss mario and luigi, its so sad to see the company tumble to the ground.

  • @ring3651
    @ring3651 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel like they would have made sales if they released the bowsers inside story remake on the switch instead of the 3ds

  • @Kreiser_VII
    @Kreiser_VII ปีที่แล้ว

    *Than
    Damn this was a nice vid, I only played Partners in Time but this showed how much Alpha Dream did every time they had the chance... God, why couldn't this happen to Paper Mario after years and years of dumbing down instead of to the franchise known for always going above and beyond...

  • @kyleyuen245
    @kyleyuen245 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm forever glad I got my used copy of Bowser's inside story for like 20 dollars, I love the pixel art style and the new one just doesn't do it for me. Really wish they remastered partners in time because I always wanted to play that one but it was far out of production when I got into the series