MODEL 70 SAFARI EXPRESS: History and Relevance

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  • CHAPTERS
    INTRO - 0:00
    PROLOGUE - 0:28
    HISTORY OF MODEL 70 SFARI RIFLES - 1:48
    FEATURES OF THE MODERN SAFARI EXPRESS - 7:20
    MOUNTING OPTICS ON THE SAFARI EXPRESS - 16:12
    AFTERMARKET SUPPORT FOR THE SAFARI EXPRESS - 17:44
    BEDDING THE STOCK ON A SAFARI EXPRESS - 21:13
    TIPS AND TRICKS FOR THE SAFARI EXPRESS - 28:41
    FIELD RESULTS WITH THE SAFARI EXPRESS - 30:54
    CONCLUSION - 32:32
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  • @22vampyre
    @22vampyre 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    I bought a Safari Express in .375 H&H back in 2021, after watching too many Desert Dog Outdoors videos, no regrets!!!!

    • @falba1492
      @falba1492 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      So I’m not the only dummkopf influence by this maniac! You know you’ve gone too far when you start hunting squirrel with a 458 Lott.

    • @22vampyre
      @22vampyre 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@falba1492 it happens!!!!

    • @desertdogoutdoors1113
      @desertdogoutdoors1113  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      FYI: Midway just got a bunch of Nosler 375H&H brass in stock. I just bought several boxes.

    • @22vampyre
      @22vampyre 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@desertdogoutdoors1113 THANKS!!!!!!

    • @falba1492
      @falba1492 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@desertdogoutdoors1113 Thanks for the tip. I had purchased some. Now if I could only get some H4895.

  • @andrewcleveland
    @andrewcleveland 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    I have one of the model 70 safari’s in 416 Rem Mag. It was one made in Portugal, and it has been an awesome rifle for me. Has been a constant sub moa rifle for me with handloads. My two favorite loads I use for whitetail are a 300 grain TSX at 2720 fps and a 340 woodleigh PP at right at 2700 fps. I know i still have probable 100 fps left to go on the 300 gr TSX load, but it shoots 1/2 moa so I just left it. The 340 woodleigh is my favorite load though it just absolutely hammers deer shoots slightly under 3/4 moa. I know a lot of people think it’s foolish to use this rifle on deer, but it’s a lot of good practice if I ever do make it to Africa one day.

    • @wesleyturner1979
      @wesleyturner1979 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      😂 I want one but I think I’d be in your same camp trying to use it for 100lb deer. If I ever go hunt Buff in Africa, I’m getting one in 416 though!

    • @Nick-wn1xw
      @Nick-wn1xw 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Meat damage is a function of velocity and bullet construction so actually at the velocities you are shooting you will get no more meat damage, probably less because of bullet construction, than a .308 at the same velocity.

    • @JonRangel87
      @JonRangel87 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Hunting deer with a 416 rem mag is absurd

    • @dansta6316
      @dansta6316 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This guy really hunting a tiny deer with a 416 is insane to me 😂

    • @andrewcleveland
      @andrewcleveland 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@JonRangel87 it’s a whole lot better practice than just shooting the rifle at the range. Meat loss is actually quite minimal even shooting the lighter bullets at higher velocity, due to the bullets still being very strongly constructed.

  • @MrJVote
    @MrJVote 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Long time listener, first time caller. I continue to be impressed by how much information you've managed to pack into these videos. Thank you for making them.

  • @Eggomania86
    @Eggomania86 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    It's definitely on my to get list! You can't beat a model 70! I definitely want to add the Safari Express into my collection. I have a feather weight and an All Weather SS they are addictive that's for sure. I'm not afraid to admit I'm a Winchester model 70 fan boy.

  • @richardkramer1094
    @richardkramer1094 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I wish I count the number of late production Model 70 Safari Express rifles I’ve had in my shop for custom stocks and Blackburn bottom metal. I’ve probably customized 200 or 300 over the years. Some of the .458 Winchester I’ve rechambered for .458 Lott. Bastogne Walnut with ebony tip and cap is my recommended choice for these hard recoiling calibers. Some I have engraved fully or partially. 3 leaf express sight are also commonly ask for and custom load work up. The most common request, by far, is welding on a longer bolt handle which I make in my shop. I always full length bed the action and chamber all the way to the secondary recoil lug on the barrel. Another great video @DD.

  • @ZacharyNWare
    @ZacharyNWare 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I have two Safari Expresses; one in 416 REM Mag and the other 458 Win Mag. Both have taken Cape Buffalos, Lion, Hippo, and many plains game in Africa. Here in the US they’ve hunted deer and the 458 stopped a black bear from getting in my house. The rifles just work I’ve never had problems both feed all respective ammo. Awesome video!

  • @MisterBrewer
    @MisterBrewer 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Another fantastic video from someone who has real experience, knowledge, and wisdom. Thank you.

  • @johnmullins203
    @johnmullins203 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I’ve got a M70 Classic Stainless in 375 that I put into a Safari Express stock - huge improvement over the factory synthetic. It made a trip to South Africa last year and also took a Texas pig a couple years ago.

    • @Nick-wn1xw
      @Nick-wn1xw 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nice. Wish they would chamber the Model 70 in 9,3x62 as well.

  • @Bunduki
    @Bunduki 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Hi DD
    I wouldn't want the trigger pull any lighter than 3 1/2 lbs for dangerous game , adrenalin does strange things to a person's touch & feel , when the situation gets serious.
    Well presented episode !

    • @desertdogoutdoors1113
      @desertdogoutdoors1113  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I agree. You will never go prone or be obsessive about precision with a Safari Express. For most rifles, I recommend an aftermarket trigger; but for the Safari Express, the MOA trigger is perfect for the intended purpose of the rifle. When you have a mean old Dagga Boy staring at you from 25 yards away, a 2-lb trigger is the last thing you want.

  • @user-me3er7lm1o
    @user-me3er7lm1o 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Love my New Haven, Connecticut Safari Express in 375 H&H.
    Prepping for a water buffalo and red stag hunt in Argentina and I’ll be taking it as well as my 1982 XTR in 270 Win or my 1992 Featherweight in 7x57. Im still load developing and will use whatever gives me best results.
    Winchester Model 70 are the only bolt guns I own. My pride and joy is a flawless 1937 four digit serial no chambered in 257 Roberts equipped with a Zeiss 4x scope mounted in Griffin & Howe quick disconnect. It also has the Lyman 48 WJS peep sight making it the truly perfect deer and varmit gun.

  • @user-lp9vl4bo3c
    @user-lp9vl4bo3c 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I'm so happy Winchester returned to all the good features on model 70. If they just start reproducing a ''modern'' model 21shotgun then I would be in rifle heaven! :D , Great viedo, thanks for sharing!

  • @theoriginalDAL357
    @theoriginalDAL357 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I thoroughly enjoyed this video, even though I have no need at this time, or probably ever, of any rifle chambered in anything other than my Browning in .30-06. Your videos are exceptionally well done and the pacing makes the time fly by, unlike some YT videos whereby 10 minutes seem to drag on interminably. Thanks for your efforts, they are appreciated.

  • @jandyg
    @jandyg 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Wonderful video, what a great educational experience. Not only have I hunted Africa 5 times, but I also help out in a local Gun Shop. And couldn’t agree more with you. Fit and finish for a production rifle is top notch.
    Edit; Win is taking the market CZ left open.

  • @maxwelm7408
    @maxwelm7408 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I have a New Haven classic super express in .375 H&H. Absolutely love it

  • @aceoswell9849
    @aceoswell9849 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Mine will never see dangerous game in Africa, however it works extremely well on hogs in south Texas.

  • @johnt34aus
    @johnt34aus 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Really great video on the M70 Safari Express. So much info and accurate info at that. Great Job! My favourite hunting rifle action and it been to Africa and performed flawlessly!

  • @jeffcopenhaver2217
    @jeffcopenhaver2217 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Only wish I have would be a Super Grade stock added. Good walnut and a forend tip would make it a bit classier looking, but as is it’s good to go. 👍🏻

  • @deangustafson7533
    @deangustafson7533 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Model 70’s are the only bolt rifles I hunt with. My three are all Portugal made, one in 264 WM, one in 300 WM, and one I had built in 280 Ackley Improved with a Bartlien barrel. The last one I’ll get is a Safari Express in .375 H&H. I love the controlled feed and the 3 position safety. Best safety system ever built. I also have a custom Mauser built on an ‘09 Argentine Mauser action in .270 Win. It was the CRF action and safety on the Mauser that led me to Winchester.

  • @NCWoodlandRoamer
    @NCWoodlandRoamer 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great presentation as always Desert Dog! Always something new to learn from your videos.

  • @user-wo2iw3kt8o
    @user-wo2iw3kt8o 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Hi desert dog. I have 1 model 70. In 225 winchester. And i have a m54 30 gov o6. Made in 1925 or 1926. Awsome quality. . . Awsome video. I can only imagine having one in 458. . God bless.

    • @user-wo2iw3kt8o
      @user-wo2iw3kt8o 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Desert dog. I have several winchesters that were inherited. From my family. My greatgrandpaps 1894 3240 was made in 1898. I'm using it this year in Pennsylvania deer season. It's bank vault tight and very accurate. . Winchester is the best hunting rifle ever made. God bless

  • @andrewmacaulay1585
    @andrewmacaulay1585 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Excellent as usual.
    Kind regards
    New Brunswick Canada 🇨🇦

  • @mdirtydogg
    @mdirtydogg 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Really enjoyed watching this video. Probably the best video on this model. Thank you for making it and sharing with us.

  • @panzer5033
    @panzer5033 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Best value among dangerous game rifles available, no question.

  • @james2982
    @james2982 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Fantastic. Thank you, as always.

  • @sammiller4321
    @sammiller4321 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great breakdown! Very informative. Thanks

  • @RedLeafRFO
    @RedLeafRFO 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Beautiful Rifle!

  • @billfisher6708
    @billfisher6708 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video, DD.

  • @edwardabrams4972
    @edwardabrams4972 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I bought one of the Safari Expresses for my best friend a few years back when it was in a local gun shop and I am friends when the store owner and got a great buy in it and it’s my friends favorite rifle other then the pre64’s I gave him! Thanks for the video DD looking forward to the next video my friend!

  • @user-wo2iw3kt8o
    @user-wo2iw3kt8o 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Desert dog. I also have a 1895 405 winchester. . Another hard hitter. . I love it . Mine is still original.

  • @jeffjeffery1124
    @jeffjeffery1124 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video. Very informative. Thank you.

  • @K-bob_45
    @K-bob_45 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Bought one in 416 rem a few years ago. Love shooting it. I’ve got 1 SC gun and 3 Portugal made. Build quality is good across the board. Of mine I’d say the Portuguese guns are actually nicer.

  • @robertoaragon1506
    @robertoaragon1506 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video

  • @ranchodeluxe1
    @ranchodeluxe1 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I always keep a rifle in the stand in my den. Just to look at. Usually, it's a Model 70. I took a very nice 6 by 6 whitetail with my open sight .270 on The Pine Ridge Reservation last fall and my guide smoked a real bruiser with his Savage 99. Lots of snickers on the 15 mile trail back to the ranch. Sly comments about range finders and scopes, mostly.

  • @TheRoamingHazard
    @TheRoamingHazard 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nice vid to watch while I am finally trying to get my 1961 Model 70 in .264 Win Mag up and running. Finally picked up some copper rounds that were not ridiculously expensive in the caliber. And like you said here my Model 70 just dunks on the Mauser action i have in every way. Bolt smoothness, feeding, trigger, safety. Am leaning toward topping it off with a Trijicon Creedo 2.5x15x which you recommended in your scope vid.

  • @warrenpolidori5541
    @warrenpolidori5541 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video, very comprehensive.
    One suggestion for travel instead of the liquid corrosion spray is Sentry Solutions Marine Tuf Cloth. Great product, inexpensive, and works awesome. Been using it on high carbon knives for years and not a spot of corrosion, even on the brass fittings.

  • @alexanderrodriguezmba2370
    @alexanderrodriguezmba2370 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Loved the video!! Heading to Africa 6/10/24!!

  • @BCBtrucks64
    @BCBtrucks64 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    what a great technical review of a iconic rifle and brand DD , i heard you say on last HCM you had rifle review videos coming up but what a surprise to find out it was on a mod-70 big game winchester , love these type of reviews more than shooting ballistic gel (nothing wrong with that if you are interested in bullet research) i have one mod-70 and would trade a few of my other selections to own more than one caliber in these traditionally beautiful rifles , trouble you have now is you started with the top dog of rifles where to now a browning , a Weatherby vanguard 243 ? still watching from australia , barry (no Remington's here)

  • @vernonlarson7016
    @vernonlarson7016 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    They are nice. I ordered a 416 Remington mag. I also have two Ruger magnum Express rifles. One in 416 Rigby and 458 Lott.

    • @Nick-wn1xw
      @Nick-wn1xw 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'm curious where you ordered a Safari Express in .416 Rem? I haven 't seen one actually available for sale in years.

  • @retkar1
    @retkar1 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nice video. Spot on about availability. I ordered one in 416 Rem Mag about a year ago. My dealer said at the time that it could be up to two years in getting filled. I’m hoping they do another run soon.

    • @desertdogoutdoors1113
      @desertdogoutdoors1113  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      There was a big rifle run that flooded retailers at the beginning of 2023. Those were gone within a month or two. Remember, the big retailers like Cabellas, Scheels, and Sportmans Warehouse are going to get their orders filled first. Get put on the "notification list" for all the big retailers.

    • @desertdogoutdoors1113
      @desertdogoutdoors1113  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      LINKS REMOVED BECAUSE RIFLES WERE SOLD AFTER POSTING.

  • @user-ku3is1on8n
    @user-ku3is1on8n 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've got a model 70 Sportster Boss in 25-06 i like it a lot it's a great gun

  • @falba1492
    @falba1492 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I always carry a couple of C-notes, to make sure my barrel is free floated. Then I use Krugerrands to check the weight of my trigger pull.

  • @starnavigator6665
    @starnavigator6665 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If only they would release the 70 in 300 H&H….. I would be complete. ❤

  • @gurmitsingh3120
    @gurmitsingh3120 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Double D,
    Comprehensive comparative dissertation of Winchester Model 70.

  • @wallacejeffery5786
    @wallacejeffery5786 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I had 3: all to grand sons, all made in 1955: .308 win featherlight,
    30:06 standard, .300 H and H.

  • @andreasgauckler3152
    @andreasgauckler3152 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video! I have a M70 for 30 years now and it serves me well. I would appreciate if you could provide the proper torque values for the action screws and if you now a stock maker you could recommend would be great too. Keep going.

  • @borkwoof696
    @borkwoof696 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Fantastic video as always, DD. The only aesthetic part I don’t like about the Safari express is the chunky fore end of the stock.

    • @desertdogoutdoors1113
      @desertdogoutdoors1113  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I actually think it's relatively skinny for a dangerous game rifle. Definitely skinnier than a CZ550 or Rigby. Remember, it has to be thick enough to inlet for the second recoil lug.

    • @borkwoof696
      @borkwoof696 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@desertdogoutdoors1113 good point. I was thinking specifically of the fore end tip.

  • @bruceinnawoods3610
    @bruceinnawoods3610 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Leupold VX-5HD 2-10x40 on Talley rings fits this rifle, just.

  • @33journeyman
    @33journeyman 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent video and truly appreciate your efforts. I would like to imagine it's hard to get one these new. I've had the Win.Mod. 70 Alaskan on order for 2.5 years now....ugh

    • @desertdogoutdoors1113
      @desertdogoutdoors1113  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Insider tip: Never order directly from a manufacturer. Rather, place yourself on the "notify when in stock" list for all the major retailers. Big retailers get their orders first. This also applies to bullets, brass, and primers. My best friend bought a Safari Express last year when there was an inventory dump to retailers.

    • @desertdogoutdoors1113
      @desertdogoutdoors1113  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      * LINKS REMOVED BECAUSE RIFLES WERE SOLD AFTER POSTING.

  • @mikespies6941
    @mikespies6941 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have a Model 70 Safari Express - a LEFT HAND model made in New Haven. I also have two other M70s with left hand actions, but they are not Safari Express rifles. FN stopped making left hand Model 70s after they moved from New Haven, apparently. They are out there and can be found.

    • @donkeene1948
      @donkeene1948 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Mike, I too have 2 Left Hand Model 70's, one in .375 H&H Classic and one in .30-06 Classic, both with CRF. The only problem with the .375 H&H is, before I got it, someone cut the barrel to 20 inches, not a lot of fun to shoot!! Might have to look for a new barrel.

    • @desertdogoutdoors1113
      @desertdogoutdoors1113  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Then you own a "Classic Safari Express", made between 1999 and 2006.

    • @mikespies6941
      @mikespies6941 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@donkeene1948 I like a 23" - 24" barrel on most of my rifles. For a .375 H&H I agree that a 20" barrel, while handy, leaves too much powder unburnt at bullet exit time.

  • @Andre-lt5nm
    @Andre-lt5nm 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video! Having the possibility to get a pre 1964 production in great condions and a current production what would you get of the two?

    • @desertdogoutdoors1113
      @desertdogoutdoors1113  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The pre-64 if Nostalgia is important. A new model 70 if its just a tool to get a job done.

  • @Sbouns
    @Sbouns 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi , great informative video as usual , thank you !
    What do you think about the model 70 classic stainless ?
    Thank you from France !

  • @DrBreezeAir
    @DrBreezeAir 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That slip up at the end hopefully tells that you'll cover a Sako next.

  • @MrPh30
    @MrPh30 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The two movies i saw about the safari m70 was Dirty Harry and Hatari. Two movies i very much like,but which my teachers hated with a passion . That was early 90s . Gee i wonder why😅
    But i got a Std Rifle m70 in .375 early 50s so its mine.
    Next will be a .300 HH m70 if i can find one .

    • @luvtahandload7692
      @luvtahandload7692 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Came across a pre-64 300 H&H at auction awhile back. Nineteen c-notes later and it's all mine. 😊

    • @desertdogoutdoors1113
      @desertdogoutdoors1113  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hatari featured some very nice rifles. John Wayne killed an elephant for real with a Model 70 during the filming of that movie, but they cut it out.

    • @MrPh30
      @MrPh30 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes i know that, there is pictures of him around with the,Elephant .

    • @desertdogoutdoors1113
      @desertdogoutdoors1113  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MrPh30 There are pictures floating around of him shooting the elephant during full charge! I think Roy Weatherby (who was a friend of Wayne and provided rifles to him) was probably a little hurt over that movie, lol.

    • @MrPh30
      @MrPh30 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@desertdogoutdoors1113 Yes thats likely ,but its difference on 2600 fps and 2100 fps in .458 Solid on big game. So since i got a m70 mid 50s standard rifle , i fully see it . Not a African but .375 it is.
      Now im studying and waiting for a book about Asian hunts, some of book content for ;a eating Royal Bengal Tigers .

  • @robbrown3
    @robbrown3 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    These types of videos are my favorite. Since I'm a Ruger fan, I would love to see a similar video about the different model 77 RSM rifles and the current Hawkeye African models.

  • @user-wo2iw3kt8o
    @user-wo2iw3kt8o 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Desert dog. That m 70 you are holding is absolutely bueatiful. And a winchester. Non better

  • @luvtahandload7692
    @luvtahandload7692 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I finally sourced a SE in 375 H&H 2 or 3 years ago. Have not scoped it or shot it seriously yet, mainly just trying 2-3 ptarmigan loads in it. Roundball and 38-55 lead slugs. What are your thoughts re Leupold QD mounts on a rifle of this type? Thanks, Dog!

    • @desertdogoutdoors1113
      @desertdogoutdoors1113  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I assume you mean "QR Mounts". I am not a fan of the old-school QR mount/ring system; and although people do use them, i've seen many problems with them on heavy-recoil rifles. I hate rings with only 1 screw per side. The "QRW Rings" are a much better than the old "QR" system (but these rings ALWAYS need lapping). Try to stick with steel rings and bases.

  • @johnvillalovos5082
    @johnvillalovos5082 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’ve been looking for a 416 Rem Mag in one of these, off and on, for a couple of years now. You don’t see them very often these days, post Covid. I think that GB prices are inflated. A couple around 3.3K. Maybe that’s what they go for now. But, I’ll admit, I don’t know what the usual MSRP is nowadays. Pre-Covid, I did.

    • @andrewcleveland
      @andrewcleveland 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I t took me quite awhile to find mine in 416 rem mag also. I got it when covid was still in full effect unfortunately. I believe at that time MSRP was around $1,300-$1,400. I finally found a new one on gunbroker, and by the time I won it and the shipping and taxes ended up slightly less than $2,000. Which I know I overpaid, but I’d been really looking for over a year until I finally just bit the bullet. I love the rifle, so I don’t feel bad for paying extra. Unfortunately last time I was on gunbroker a few weeks ago all the ones I saw listed were around $3,000 😳

    • @johnvillalovos5082
      @johnvillalovos5082 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks Andrew. Yes, I remember when they were in the 1.3-1.4K range. It seems to me if you got yours at under 2K, that’s not a bad price for these days. I would easily pay around 2K, but not 3K or 3.3K. I had one of these around 10-12 yrs ago and sold it! Dumb move. I have a 416 Wby., but want a Model 70, again, as well. The Wby is not a CRF, of course, and is 2+1 for cartridge capacity, but it has power up the wazoo! I mainly have it for S&G. It’s a blast to shoot, pun intended!

  • @deozzed7246
    @deozzed7246 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I notice that on the Model 70 416 rem mag you have in this video, you have horizontal rings vs the model 70 416 rem mag you have in your 416 rem mag video of several years ago, where they are vertical rings.
    Is there a functional reason you changed from vertical to horizontal rings on this DG rifle? Are your horizontal rings quick release and may I ask what brand you are using for these horizontal rings?
    Thank you for all you do for us.

    • @desertdogoutdoors1113
      @desertdogoutdoors1113  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Watch the April 2024 episode of "Hunt Camp Mail". At 21:00 in the video, I answer your question. th-cam.com/video/58LqaiM3_DA/w-d-xo.html

  • @marcuspierantozzi
    @marcuspierantozzi 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thanks for a great video. I was wondering if you could "Lott" the 458WM M70. Regards from Zimbabwe

    • @desertdogoutdoors1113
      @desertdogoutdoors1113  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yes you can. Very easy job for a gunsmith.

    • @marcuspierantozzi
      @marcuspierantozzi 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Nice to know. Now I have to have one 😂 I have the Super Express in 458 lott.. I don't trust the push feed. I grew up with a FN .375 h&h with a beautiful mauser action.. fantastic rifle. Never let me down and never had any issues. Winchester were stupid to make "big game" rifles with push feed.

    • @Nick-wn1xw
      @Nick-wn1xw 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Two things would have to be changed besides the chambering. The magazine box needs to be replaced or the spacer removed and the follower will need to be replaced with the longer one.

  • @gennerobootz6490
    @gennerobootz6490 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do a video on the m70 Alaskan

  • @johnnevils506
    @johnnevils506 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I would love to own a Winchester Model 70. I just wished that LH versions were available - at least in current production models.
    Great video, Desert Dog - thanks!
    P.S. I love that $100 bill free float on the barrel! 😂

  • @yo9758
    @yo9758 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I got one in 375 h&h but I was thinking about re-chambering it 375 Weatherby but can decide if it worth it sense I already bought dies in h&h

  • @gennerobootz6490
    @gennerobootz6490 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What do think of the Ruger Hawkeye safari

  • @davidlaney8254
    @davidlaney8254 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The only brand of rifle I know where people who own a given model will sometimes boast they will never shoot it.

  • @mattpie595
    @mattpie595 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Did they ever make a Safari or Safari Express in Left hand version?

    • @desertdogoutdoors1113
      @desertdogoutdoors1113  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The Classic Super Express and Classic Safari Express were made in left-hand versions. The modern FN Safari Express (2010-now) and all FN Model 70s are right-hand only. When the New Haven plant was shut down, they stopped making left-hand Model 70s.

  • @jacklewis3444
    @jacklewis3444 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We’ve had our Model 70 safaris on order since Covid and they have yet to be made/shipped.

    • @desertdogoutdoors1113
      @desertdogoutdoors1113  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Strange. They were available from retailers last year. My local Bass Pro Shops had 3 on the shelves. My best friend bought a new one in 416 last year online (from Grab a Gun). Stock is dried up right now, except for overpriced ones on Gunbroker. The best thing to do is sign-up for notifications with the online retailers (I do this with bullets all the time).

    • @jacklewis3444
      @jacklewis3444 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@desertdogoutdoors1113 That’s what I was told by our buyer. 🤷🏼‍♂️ I work at a gun store. We are probably one of winchester’s biggest dealers in our part of Texas.

    • @desertdogoutdoors1113
      @desertdogoutdoors1113  27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jacklewis3444 * LINKS REMOVED BECAUSE RIFLES WERE SOLD AFTER POSTING.

  • @ronlowney4700
    @ronlowney4700 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    🐶 Desert Dog, I Am Going To Be Rebarreling My Pre-64 Model 70 30-06 and Would Like To Know What Barrel Recomendations You Have For It?

    • @desertdogoutdoors1113
      @desertdogoutdoors1113  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Depends on budget and intended use. For a beater rifle; Green Mountain and ER shaw will be acceeptable. For a great hunting rifle; Pac-Nor, Douglas, and Hart will make fine barrels. For compettion; Bartlein, Krieger, Brux, and Shilen are popular.

  • @williamhedtke6996
    @williamhedtke6996 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What’s the difference between the Alaskan iand the Safari Xpress?

    • @desertdogoutdoors1113
      @desertdogoutdoors1113  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The Alaskan has a sporter profile barrel (vs heavy barrel), a fore-end mounted sling stud (vs a barrel band), only 1 recoil lug (vs dual recoil lugs), a minimalist rear sight (vs express sight). The safari express is a more robustly-built rifle better suited for bigger cartridges.

  • @mr.mr.3301
    @mr.mr.3301 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just read model 70s used to be chf but are now button rifled.

    • @K-bob_45
      @K-bob_45 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’d think the South Carolina made guns are CHF and anything else is button

    • @mr.mr.3301
      @mr.mr.3301 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@K-bob_45 I bet they were made by FN in Columbia. They have a chf machine there. Sometimes their barrels get sold to psa. I tend to want chf. I’ve seen too many Tikkas and Ruger Americans run circles around button rifled barrels such as Bergara.

    • @K-bob_45
      @K-bob_45 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mr.mr.3301 tikkas are no joke. I haven’t had the same experiences with Ruger. Of my model 70’s I can’t tell one or the other being dramatically better. They all shoot good when I feed them right.

    • @desertdogoutdoors1113
      @desertdogoutdoors1113  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Why does it matter. The Safari Express shoots sub-MOA in 458 Win Mag! What more are you looking for?

    • @desertdogoutdoors1113
      @desertdogoutdoors1113  24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Nick-wn1xw I've won matches with Shilen botton-rifled barrels. People read internet forums too much. A properly stress-relieved button-rifled barrel will win matches.

  • @mikemelina7395
    @mikemelina7395 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Even if I needed one, I couldn't afford it, and that's a shame...at least I didn't call you Rob this time DD. lol😁

    • @edwardabrams4972
      @edwardabrams4972 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      They were actually pretty reasonable before Covid but rifles took a big jump just like everything else did and are also a lot harder to find now. I have an Express in 375 and a Weatherby Mark 5 stainless in 375 and sure glad I got them before Covid because they are up about 30-40% since then if you can even find one.

    • @desertdogoutdoors1113
      @desertdogoutdoors1113  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I'm sorry you can't save to buy one. Regardless, it is the cheapest "ready out of the box" Safari rifle made.

    • @mikemelina7395
      @mikemelina7395 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@desertdogoutdoors1113 No doubt sir, that's the one thing I left out of my comment. I watched the whole video, you did a beautiful job bedding the new stock. I could save for the rifle, but the African hunt, no way. Nevertheless, I've happily watched every video you've made on the subject.

    • @andrewcleveland
      @andrewcleveland 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mikemelina7395I’m pretty positive I’ll never be able to make it to Africa no matter how bad I want too. But I was able two aquire some dangerous game calibers. I just use them on whitetail and hogs. It’s great practice anyways in case I do ever make it to Africa before I die. I would steer you towards an interarms mark X commercial mauser dangerous game rifle, but unfortunately they have also skyrocketed in price since Covid. I have one chambered in a 416 Taylor Improved and I love that rifle as much as my model 70 in 416 Remington. Might be worth a shot to look and see if you can find some in good price range I believe the only dangerous game calibers they offer are 375 H&H and 458 win mag, they also have 9.3x62.

  • @shovellord1117
    @shovellord1117 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'd love to own one, but I am also a big fan of ruger's rifles, particularly their dangerous game guns. Perhaps all of the above lol

    • @desertdogoutdoors1113
      @desertdogoutdoors1113  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      With the new M77 Hawkeye African, you are stuck traveling around the world with "proprietary cartridges". This takes Ruger off the list for me (plus, Model 70 quality is better).

  • @williamfeldner9356
    @williamfeldner9356 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have the Model 70 Alaskan in 375 H@H.. I prefer it over the Safari as it is a little lighter and easier to swing and handle…….

    • @desertdogoutdoors1113
      @desertdogoutdoors1113  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      But the Alaskan is a less robust rifle than the Safari....The Safari Express is built for dangerous game cartridges, the Alaskan is not.

    • @williamfeldner9356
      @williamfeldner9356 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@desertdogoutdoors1113 My Win 70 Alaskan 375h@h would have to argue with you about that……..

    • @desertdogoutdoors1113
      @desertdogoutdoors1113  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@williamfeldner9356 I own 4 Alaskans. They don't have double recoil lugs, heavy barrels, high-quality Express sights, or barrel bands. The 458 Win Safari Express is only 5oz heavier than the Alaskan.

    • @williamfeldner9356
      @williamfeldner9356 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@desertdogoutdoors1113 I do so enjoy your Utube channel….. but I do prefer my 375 Alaskan…….. it does handle for me much better than the Safari…… I am unaware of any Alaskans in 375 that have broken stocks ……. 375 H@H is the minimum dangerous game cartridge in most of Africa….. and it gives me a little more confidence in elk country where I hunt in the Montana, Idaho and Wyoming area as the grizzly population boomed in recent years and human/grizzly bears encounters have increased….. but you are correct for the real big dangerous game cartridges the Safari is the better build rifle…….it is just not the better handling rifle for ME…..
      I am not recoil sensitive by any means, but recoil does have an effect on accuracy and I think that the 416 or 458 would maybe be too much for me trying to thread a bullet.
      I absolutely love my Winchester Model 70 Alaskan in 375 H@H with Talley Mounts and a Leupold VX 3 HD 1.5-5X Heavy Duplex Custom Shop built Scope……….
      PS looking at the time stamp it appears you are an early riser….. have a great day Dog of the Desert……..🏜️

    • @desertdogoutdoors1113
      @desertdogoutdoors1113  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@williamfeldner9356I was lucky enough to snag one of the limited edition M70 Alaskan Stainless/Laminate models while they were being made in South Carolina. It's chambered in 375H&H and is one of my favorite guns. I took it to Africa in 2016 and my wife used it for 2 weeks and stole it from me. But for anything over 375, the Safari Express is a much better platform.

  • @mattluszczak8095
    @mattluszczak8095 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey desert dog dog didnt ruger make a safari or an express?

    • @WillyK51
      @WillyK51 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Of course they did.

    • @BornAgain2019
      @BornAgain2019 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They make the African and also the Alaskan.

  • @ulflyng4072
    @ulflyng4072 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Weren't there a problem with headspacing??

    • @desertdogoutdoors1113
      @desertdogoutdoors1113  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Not with the FN rifles.

    • @ulflyng4072
      @ulflyng4072 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@desertdogoutdoors1113 And they were produced from??

    • @desertdogoutdoors1113
      @desertdogoutdoors1113  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Actually, I've never heard of headspacing issues with any of the Winchester Safari rifles. This comes from years of experience in a shop, and a lifetime of actual ownership and use.

    • @ulflyng4072
      @ulflyng4072 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@desertdogoutdoors1113 Good to hear, thx for the answer.
      Keep the vids coming 👍

  • @jc128744
    @jc128744 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The only critique I can give this rifle, is that I wish it has a slightly longer length of pull.

    • @desertdogoutdoors1113
      @desertdogoutdoors1113  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      A slightly bigger recoil pad, or a simple spacer will easily fix that. The LOP fits most people well, and that's all a manufacturer can hope for.

  • @hillbillyscholar8126
    @hillbillyscholar8126 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I honestly do not want a Model 70 made anywhere but the U.S. no matter what the build quality is. Glad I picked up mine when I did.

    • @andrewcleveland
      @andrewcleveland 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I absolutely love the American made model 70’s, but my Portuguese model 70 outshoots both New Haven made model 70’s I owned. I like em all I never owned or shot one of the ones made in South Carolina though, so no experience with those.

    • @TexasLonghornRanch
      @TexasLonghornRanch 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The FN guns are higher-quality.

    • @hillbillyscholar8126
      @hillbillyscholar8126 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      My New Haven rifles look and shoot well. I am dubious of any claim of imported superiority but insist on made in U.S.A. regardless.

    • @desertdogoutdoors1113
      @desertdogoutdoors1113  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I believe the new rifles are superior in quality. And this is coming from someone who ones M70s of every generation.

    • @BornAgain2019
      @BornAgain2019 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The components are made in the US and shipped to Portugal for final assembly.

  • @Scottbayer
    @Scottbayer 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m sorry for not emailing you. This is Scott from Wisconsin what is the difference between the Alaskan and the Safari in the model 70

    • @desertdogoutdoors1113
      @desertdogoutdoors1113  10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The Alaskan has a sporter profile barrel (vs heavy barrel), a fore-end mounted sling stud (vs a barrel band), only 1 recoil lug (vs dual recoil lugs), a minimalist rear sight (vs express sight), and a thinner-profile monte carlo stock. The safari express is a more robustly-built rifle better suited for bigger cartridges.

  • @user-kb3he7uj1b
    @user-kb3he7uj1b 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    You should see an uptick in female viewers. " Let's bed this bad boy"..😂

  • @fjb5263
    @fjb5263 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Do the Alaskan next