@CulturalDumpsterFire outwit and game the gatekeepers through building a social network around you. I know people hate hearing that especially older people, but honestly the best way to get yourself out there and move quickly is through networking. LinkedIn is incredibly valuable for this as are Discord communities as well. You can often bypass a lot of the hurdles you’re facing now just by connecting with people and sharing your knowledge and experience out there with others.
@@CulturalDumpsterFire - trim your resume to say most recent 10-15 years. It shows you’re experienced but not way over experienced with say 2 decades of experience. Focus on the more recent experience and talent. If I were a hiring manager I don’t care what your specific experience was 20 years ago. If I were say doing some Novell Server/Networking admin work 25 years ago, I would leave that antiquated work history out of my resume as it does nothing to help with today’s technologies and would show my upper age. It’s natural assumption that folks will think a way too seasoned and upper aged person will be slower to adapt and may want more $$$. I’ve seen that advice too kicking around Reddit for older folks with 20+ years experience - they’ve trimmed old outdated work history. I’ve done it too and it helps.
Started working IT as a Signal soldier in '96. After serving my time, I went on to try different fields. Recently decided to get back into IT, starting with earning my certs back. Forgot how much I love the field.
never too late. depends on the person. i'll be turning 60 this year. i've been in the IT field since 89. i'm refreshing my skills by working part-time towards my MSCS. i learn just as fast or faster than i ever have. i'm employed as a senior network engineer. i'm transitioning into software engineering but it is a tough time for that right now.
Turning 42 this year. Have been in IT for 20+ years. I can absolutely tell you that my ability to learn things is slowing down. Still keeping up, but I have to do a lot more outside of work hours in terms of learning.
Do you think that you might be getting burntout? And I wonder if you had to only work half as much as you do now if you would be sharper? More life work balance, because even porno stars get sick of their job. Lol
I'm the same way, I gave up spending time with close friends to research a little more about my responsibilities. It's extra hours sometimes, but I treat it like a hobby.
I'm 32, been in IT for 4 working years, 2 years before of college. I have my associates and the CompTIA trifecta. I want to move into a security analyst role, but its impossible without security work experience+bachelor's. Both of those are almost impossible even trying to get into a entry-level. I have the drive. I am currently trying to figure out what certification I want to go to next, because there is plenty of vendors with a variety of certifications for the exact same thing.
You don’t necessarily need a bachelors as your Associate’s should be enough - even those with degrees now are finding it very tough to land a job. What’s the challenge is you’re competing with those recent grads who have some relevant Internship experience. Right the CompTIA and ISC2 certs are foundational security knowledge but then in the real world it boils down to real knowledge about real vendor solutions in Zero Trust implementations including XDR, DLP, Data Governance, CASB, etc. Also combinations can be good and what I mean by that is vendor certs can help - security in an Azure, AWS or GCP Cloud platform. Some of their security certs can be quite tough.
It may be easier trying for.government. they take the certs at the federal level and some states take you with experience in the lower level job class.
I was in IT for 14 years, didn't get every far, mainly stayed in the same job because I liked it and the money was good. Then, just after Covid, I left and got into retail. Now I want to get back into IT, but I'm 48! So, got a little bit of anxiety about it. How can I compete with younger, sharper minds? Still, retail is horrendous, lol. So I'm going to roll the dice and be happy regardless. I would be happy with a decent 1st/2nd line support position to be honest. Does anyone suffer with memory issues, or is it just me lol. That's the hardest part. Retaining information. The certs I've recently done are not hard, but the sheer amount of information I forget is kind of disheartening. Suppose the use it or lose it comes into play, but moreso the older you are.
Here's a quick fact certain companies can help you pay for college tuition or skills like Walmart, Google, target, IBM, target and ups to Microsoft look it up.
My “ perceived “ problem with general IT, is a $65000 degree, a few hundred bucks for Comptia, and only MAYBE eligible for $12 help desk. Not feasible for a 40 year old.
I'm with you. Similar situation. Was out of work during COVID, helped my kids get through remote schooling. Decided to pivot to a career in IT because my current path required a lot of travel. So I started to get IT certs and some programming courses in to get into IT. I have a lot of personal experience over the years too. I can't even land a $15 help desk job. The few phone interview I've had I'm either "overqualified" or there's so many lies in the job description it's preposterous.
I graduated with a masters in Comp Sci last August, and its a wasteland out there for entry level. Add to it, I am an older graduate, so I often wonder if my age is working against me in the industry. So this video speaks to my concerns.
I was actually thinking about this recently. I've been out of the industry for almost a year. I need to catch up but I'm 49..going to be 50 in 7 months. Was admin/tech 1/tech 2 for a small school district. I know a lot of different aspects of running a Network but I don't know enough to specialize in anything specific. I was thinking data security or network security. However, I don't know how to start or where to start. 🤷🏽♂️
"The tech industry is booming" said the man, oblivious of the fact that tech companies laid of(by the thousands) almost half their staff in the last two years.
Just wanted to say cheers dude. 9 momths ago i found your channel as a 39 year old as i was looking for q career change. I joined a local msp. In the lat month i was offered a service desk team leader roll. As a 40 year old now.in it.i can agree.age its not to late to change
Just turned…40…🤫, but been thinking lately I may need a career change. So I picked up a switch and a few other things now just need to make time to learn a few things. Then I can look into what I want to do.
Yeah, I turn 40 in a few months, and I'm already looking for a change. The medical field isn't as nice as it was sold. I'm only a year in, and I'm already 80% to hitting my wage cap. I don't like having a wage ceiling.
The more learning, physical exercise, doing hard shit and eating healthy you do, the younger your brain will stay. Keep up the hard work, you’ll live longer 🤘🤘
@@christopherdavis8725 I am in Australia. I’ve spoken to a few company owners about what I need to do to get an entry level position and go from there. It seems to be a little easier here compare to the US judging by the comment. Also, I am in WA which has a small population so less competition for places. Good luck. 🤘🤘
Hey man I’ve been watching you channel for a long while now. You progressed very far not only professionally but physically too. Not to mentioned your information and perspective have helped my career a ton. Mad respect man keep doing the lords work
In Tech Presales/Solutions/Services arena I’m mostly seeing 27 - 45 as the sweet spot. The technical sales roles especially the younger crowd. I’ve been working with lots of Technical Sales, Channel Mgrs, BDMs that are in the younger 25-37 range. PMs can be more seasoned/middle-aged. I’m not saying it’s over in tech if you’re 50 you just have to work harder to find your spot. It’s a fast changing industry that’s getting more sophisticated with big learning shifts - requiring more hands-on training and with the Cloud services firm I was at last few years - the Cloud Engineers were mostly in their 30’s with a couple of seasoned vets in early 40’s. That’s why I’m getting out of the Solution Engineering role and pivoting into more IT/Tech Business Strategy roles. Good luck all!
I THink we're kinda ignoring the fact that IT is quickly becoming a hyper-competitive dead end job. With Automation and IaC, coupled with Paas Saas and the eliminiation or degredation of the need for certain skillsets, there's less and less work todo, causing redundancies and those redundancies flooding the market for the same jobs noobs might take. I'm not sure why IT keeps being promoted as a good solid job. The Industry is disappearing and salaries are shrinking.
You absolutely can the CompTIA A+ is translated in many different languages. I just got mine and I'm 45. Age is just a number. The only thing that can hold you back is your mindset believe that you can and you will.
I'm 55 and I'm starting now.
The main hurdle is getting past gatekeepers who have no practical knowledge.
@CulturalDumpsterFire outwit and game the gatekeepers through building a social network around you.
I know people hate hearing that especially older people, but honestly the best way to get yourself out there and move quickly is through networking.
LinkedIn is incredibly valuable for this as are Discord communities as well. You can often bypass a lot of the hurdles you’re facing now just by connecting with people and sharing your knowledge and experience out there with others.
@@CulturalDumpsterFire
- trim your resume to say most recent 10-15 years. It shows you’re experienced but not way over experienced with say 2 decades of experience. Focus on the more recent experience and talent.
If I were a hiring manager I don’t care what your specific experience was 20 years ago. If I were say doing some Novell Server/Networking admin work 25 years ago, I would leave that antiquated work history out of my resume as it does nothing to help with today’s technologies and would show my upper age.
It’s natural assumption that folks will think a way too seasoned and upper aged person will be slower to adapt and may want more $$$.
I’ve seen that advice too kicking around Reddit for older folks with 20+ years experience - they’ve trimmed old outdated work history. I’ve done it too and it helps.
Started working IT as a Signal soldier in '96. After serving my time, I went on to try different fields. Recently decided to get back into IT, starting with earning my certs back. Forgot how much I love the field.
never too late. depends on the person. i'll be turning 60 this year. i've been in the IT field since 89. i'm refreshing my skills by working part-time towards my MSCS. i learn just as fast or faster than i ever have. i'm employed as a senior network engineer. i'm transitioning into software engineering but it is a tough time for that right now.
Turning 42 this year. Have been in IT for 20+ years. I can absolutely tell you that my ability to learn things is slowing down. Still keeping up, but I have to do a lot more outside of work hours in terms of learning.
Do you think that you might be getting burntout? And I wonder if you had to only work half as much as you do now if you would be sharper? More life work balance, because even porno stars get sick of their job. Lol
How come?
I'm the same way, I gave up spending time with close friends to research a little more about my responsibilities. It's extra hours sometimes, but I treat it like a hobby.
Opinion dont bite me...A Brain does not get old, its more about attitude....
I'm 32, been in IT for 4 working years, 2 years before of college. I have my associates and the CompTIA trifecta. I want to move into a security analyst role, but its impossible without security work experience+bachelor's. Both of those are almost impossible even trying to get into a entry-level. I have the drive. I am currently trying to figure out what certification I want to go to next, because there is plenty of vendors with a variety of certifications for the exact same thing.
I have seen people do more with less than what you have. Maybe do a dope project with AI. Even making yourself a website could be helpful. Good luck.
You don’t necessarily need a bachelors as your Associate’s should be enough - even those with degrees now are finding it very tough to land a job. What’s the challenge is you’re competing with those recent grads who have some relevant Internship experience.
Right the CompTIA and ISC2 certs are foundational security knowledge but then in the real world it boils down to real knowledge about real vendor solutions in Zero Trust implementations including XDR, DLP, Data Governance, CASB, etc.
Also combinations can be good and what I mean by that is vendor certs can help - security in an Azure, AWS or GCP Cloud platform. Some of their security certs can be quite tough.
It may be easier trying for.government. they take the certs at the federal level and some states take you with experience in the lower level job class.
I think what is more important is showing a willingness to learn than age.
I was in IT for 14 years, didn't get every far, mainly stayed in the same job because I liked it and the money was good. Then, just after Covid, I left and got into retail. Now I want to get back into IT, but I'm 48! So, got a little bit of anxiety about it. How can I compete with younger, sharper minds? Still, retail is horrendous, lol. So I'm going to roll the dice and be happy regardless. I would be happy with a decent 1st/2nd line support position to be honest.
Does anyone suffer with memory issues, or is it just me lol. That's the hardest part. Retaining information. The certs I've recently done are not hard, but the sheer amount of information I forget is kind of disheartening. Suppose the use it or lose it comes into play, but moreso the older you are.
Here's a quick fact certain companies can help you pay for college tuition or skills like Walmart, Google, target, IBM, target and ups to Microsoft look it up.
My “ perceived “ problem with general IT, is a $65000 degree, a few hundred bucks for Comptia, and only MAYBE eligible for $12 help desk.
Not feasible for a 40 year old.
I'm with you. Similar situation. Was out of work during COVID, helped my kids get through remote schooling. Decided to pivot to a career in IT because my current path required a lot of travel. So I started to get IT certs and some programming courses in to get into IT. I have a lot of personal experience over the years too. I can't even land a $15 help desk job. The few phone interview I've had I'm either "overqualified" or there's so many lies in the job description it's preposterous.
I graduated with a masters in Comp Sci last August, and its a wasteland out there for entry level. Add to it, I am an older graduate, so I often wonder if my age is working against me in the industry. So this video speaks to my concerns.
Love your Videos man. Just turned 36 looking to change my career and your vids are a huge help dood 🤘
I was actually thinking about this recently. I've been out of the industry for almost a year. I need to catch up but I'm 49..going to be 50 in 7 months. Was admin/tech 1/tech 2 for a small school district. I know a lot of different aspects of running a Network but I don't know enough to specialize in anything specific. I was thinking data security or network security. However, I don't know how to start or where to start. 🤷🏽♂️
Well said.. Thank you sir
"The tech industry is booming" said the man, oblivious of the fact that tech companies laid of(by the thousands) almost half their staff in the last two years.
Just wanted to say cheers dude. 9 momths ago i found your channel as a 39 year old as i was looking for q career change. I joined a local msp. In the lat month i was offered a service desk team leader roll. As a 40 year old now.in it.i can agree.age its not to late to change
The runnig joke on our desk was that I was the desks old man working with 20 somethings 😂
My old desk had a guy at 65. So, any age can do it as long as you can keep up.
Did you have an informal background in IT? I feel like everybody at least spent their youth on working with computers. I didn't do that.
When it comes to tech, the only requirement is aptitude. If you can learn it, you can do it regardless of age.
I’m 27 CE graduate and i feel old and too late to learn lol
And i find IT field hard and Frustrating 💔
But it is my major idk what to do :(
29 pursuing my Associates while studying for my comptia Trifecta.
Just turned…40…🤫, but been thinking lately I may need a career change. So I picked up a switch and a few other things now just need to make time to learn a few things. Then I can look into what I want to do.
Yeah, I turn 40 in a few months, and I'm already looking for a change. The medical field isn't as nice as it was sold. I'm only a year in, and I'm already 80% to hitting my wage cap. I don't like having a wage ceiling.
❤ thank you for explaining ❤
I agree it's never too late but at point age becomes an obsacle? 60-70s?
41 and going into IT, from South Africa....my humble Opinion dont bite me...A Brain does not get old, its more about attitude...
The more learning, physical exercise, doing hard shit and eating healthy you do, the younger your brain will stay.
Keep up the hard work, you’ll live longer 🤘🤘
I am 42 going into IT to I am from America
@@christopherdavis8725
I am in Australia. I’ve spoken to a few company owners about what I need to do to get an entry level position and go from there. It seems to be a little easier here compare to the US judging by the comment. Also, I am in WA which has a small population so less competition for places. Good luck. 🤘🤘
Am 38yrs and I just started...
Hey man I’ve been watching you channel for a long while now. You progressed very far not only professionally but physically too. Not to mentioned your information and perspective have helped my career a ton. Mad respect man keep doing the lords work
In Tech Presales/Solutions/Services arena I’m mostly seeing 27 - 45 as the sweet spot. The technical sales roles especially the younger crowd. I’ve been working with lots of Technical Sales, Channel Mgrs, BDMs that are in the younger 25-37 range. PMs can be more seasoned/middle-aged.
I’m not saying it’s over in tech if you’re 50 you just have to work harder to find your spot. It’s a fast changing industry that’s getting more sophisticated with big learning shifts - requiring more hands-on training and with the Cloud services firm I was at last few years - the Cloud Engineers were mostly in their 30’s with a couple of seasoned vets in early 40’s.
That’s why I’m getting out of the Solution Engineering role and pivoting into more IT/Tech Business Strategy roles. Good luck all!
Hey do you check emails by any chance?
Do you need to have the 9 to 12 months experience to study and take the exam?
No not at all. I just got my CompTIA A+ last month with zero IT experience. All you need is discipline and the willingness to learn.
Is 40 good old ?
50s 😔
I THink we're kinda ignoring the fact that IT is quickly becoming a hyper-competitive dead end job. With Automation and IaC, coupled with Paas Saas and the eliminiation or degredation of the need for certain skillsets, there's less and less work todo, causing redundancies and those redundancies flooding the market for the same jobs noobs might take. I'm not sure why IT keeps being promoted as a good solid job. The Industry is disappearing and salaries are shrinking.
Age does play a factor if youre trying to get your foot in the door
Thanks
I am 40 , can I? My English is not good too and I have no degree too
You absolutely can the CompTIA A+ is translated in many different languages. I just got mine and I'm 45. Age is just a number. The only thing that can hold you back is your mindset believe that you can and you will.
I’m 27 am I too old ?
JK I started with comptia ITF + wish me luck ❤
Me tooo
And i’m thinking about getting A+
Cuz i feel stupid i don’t know the basics 😂
i am nearing my 60's, i know cnc machining and finding i.t. love. go play outside young man
I am 12. Is it too late?
Yes. You should have started when you were in your mother's womb.
@@greenleaph5145facts
Should started as dna
Move along old man...