Tatemae vs. Honne /「建前 vs. 本音」

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    Tatemae vs. Honne / 建前 vs. 本音 / Tatemae vs. Honne / 建前 vs. 本音

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  • @TheMetakev
    @TheMetakev 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6425

    So the takeaway from this lesson is that in order to master the Japanese Language I must grasp the concept of absolute passive aggressiveness.

    • @nafay
      @nafay 5 ปีที่แล้ว +399

      That's honestly the best way I've ever seen that put

    • @veemon
      @veemon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +168

      You got it!

    • @thomaster8870
      @thomaster8870 5 ปีที่แล้ว +265

      You haven't mastered Japanese unless you were in mutual love with a girl, but neither of you was able to express their love to the other in a way that came across, so you ended up talking past each other and the beautiful love you could have had together never came to be, because of several hundreds of consecutive misunderstandings. Why did she keep calling my thing a moon?! Is it because I am round like the moon?!? Did she call me fat and I just didn't get it?!?!?

    • @makarlock
      @makarlock 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Thomaster шлепанцы oh yeah was she deaf too?

    • @thomaster8870
      @thomaster8870 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      No, everything I said was a lie.

  • @splatttt
    @splatttt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2142

    “i would honestly rather die” is something i wish i could say to a lot of requests

    • @sorbetto9707
      @sorbetto9707 5 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      You should start.
      I use the "I'd rather kill myself" paired with a big smile. Works wonders

    • @oktovria
      @oktovria 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@sorbetto9707 thanks, would try this once I enter college

    • @ashakydd1
      @ashakydd1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I have straight up said this to a boss. I should specify that I actually had that kind of relationship with my boss where they were okay with me saying stuff like that.

    • @oktovria
      @oktovria 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ashakydd1 thats cool

    • @shizukagozen777
      @shizukagozen777 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same.

  • @Kurobeau
    @Kurobeau 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2484

    Tatamae: Awesome vid as always, Dogen!
    Honne: Why doesn't he upload more often, tch.

    • @MisterShnig
      @MisterShnig 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I noticed this comment had nearly a thousand likes without any replies, so I had to reply.

    • @Kurobeau
      @Kurobeau 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@MisterShnig コメントしたくれてありがとうございますー

    • @MisterShnig
      @MisterShnig 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@Kurobeau どういたしまして

    • @tams805
      @tams805 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@MisterShnig Honne: You're comment was stupid and I felt like rubbing in the fact that no one replied to you.

  • @user-pj7wg5th6w
    @user-pj7wg5th6w 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1601

    Honne-stly dogen,i've really missed ya

    • @ayumisakaguchi3624
      @ayumisakaguchi3624 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is too good 😎

    • @user-ge8yn4ql4i
      @user-ge8yn4ql4i 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @Raymart Lipat I doubt Japanese and English have cognates. They're too far apart linguistically.
      For honne and honest to be cognates their common ancestor must be thousands of years in the past. Pretty much impossible with such words.

    • @yukialinia8001
      @yukialinia8001 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm your 1000th like, great comment 😂😂😂

    • @pessimistic5579
      @pessimistic5579 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@user-ge8yn4ql4i honne literally translates to true sound. Tatemae translates to something in front or a façade

  • @yayalu8650
    @yayalu8650 4 ปีที่แล้ว +562

    The way you delivered “because you are a woman” was superb

    • @maogu1999
      @maogu1999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      ONNA DAKARA

    • @Mansplainer452
      @Mansplainer452 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That totally doesn't happen at all in 2021

    • @kakahass8845
      @kakahass8845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maogu1999 女だから。

  • @orangutan-halibut-walrus
    @orangutan-halibut-walrus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1697

    dogen dropping some truth bombs on the human condition and the flaws inherent in relationships between people

    • @itsJoshV
      @itsJoshV 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      lol for real, this is a lesson for many languages I bet. Certainly fits here in America too

    • @zackwyvern2582
      @zackwyvern2582 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Neohybrid Kai Have you ever had a job? It would explain your astounding ignorance.

    • @Tamaki742
      @Tamaki742 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@zackwyvern2582 Maybe don't assume stuff you don't know to avoid sounding like an asshole.

    • @jmiquelmb
      @jmiquelmb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @Neohybrid Kai I'd say Westerners are fake just in a different way. Here in the West many people assume Japanese people are meaning it when they're so polite, rather than being just a social norm. Social norms in the West look less formal, but they are not as genuine as many non Westerners would think. Fake positivity and forcing a smile is a very well known American thing. Obviously, this is just a generalization and every person is different here and there

    • @littlefishbigmountain
      @littlefishbigmountain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Neohybrid Kai
      Westerners tend to be _a lot_ more straightforward on the internet than in person. More or less so depending on the person. A lot of people on the internet would never say the stuff they do to someone’s face

  • @smoli
    @smoli 5 ปีที่แล้ว +654

    "I'm the boss, so I can come in late." I died

    • @RanmaruRei
      @RanmaruRei 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lol, my boss from the previous job «I'm the boss, so I won't come today because I want some rest (I'm lazy) today. Send me daily report by WhatsApp. When I approve it, I'll reply. After this you can go home».

  • @apricity2994
    @apricity2994 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1124

    Dogen, you're so underrated.

    • @thomaster8870
      @thomaster8870 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Rated D for Dogen.
      D is a passing grade.

    • @Meatman6196
      @Meatman6196 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Tee Na I think the jokes are very niche, which I love, but personally think is the biggest reason (requires certain amount of knowledge in specific areas, culture, partly anime... ).

    • @briannishi4910
      @briannishi4910 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You too.

    • @mirzaahmed6589
      @mirzaahmed6589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is that honne or tatemae?

  • @seachiaki
    @seachiaki 3 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    どうげんさんの優しい声と毒舌の組み合わせに、すっかり虜になっている。

  • @AobaTachibana
    @AobaTachibana 5 ปีที่แล้ว +321

    建前:待ってました!
    本音:待ってました!

  • @wcar6117
    @wcar6117 5 ปีที่แล้ว +216

    A couple ppl talking about the difs in translation, but I always thought that was just Dogen's creative license and having some fun with localization. The jokes may or may not translate the same literally, but I think he's just upping the ante on either version to make it funnier. Or more interesting. He did something similar on a short story vid a while back iirc. I mean, sure some people who know about Japan may have heard of love hotels, but if you don't then the joke is lost. Or whatever other example. Also love hotel sounds wack in English, maybe that's partly it.

    • @harshmnr
      @harshmnr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Yeah plus the fact that since English and Japanese grammar are complete opposites, if there's a joke where he stops partway through a sentence and doesn't finish it, there's not really any way to translate it literally.
      ~:~

  • @moresoduh
    @moresoduh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    「お願いだからやめて」
    今までに無いぐらい爆笑しました

  • @Sakamori14
    @Sakamori14 5 ปีที่แล้ว +279

    I was going to say that you shouldn't have kept the tatemae-smiling fot the honne part, too, but on second thought, it's just even better to hear it behind the same faces.

  • @mesmaeker
    @mesmaeker 5 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    One of the best so far! I can't stop laughing because it's so accurate. Once you've worked in a 会社, this becomes so relatable ahah...

  • @user-ou9ln4vl2n
    @user-ou9ln4vl2n 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I am Japanese. well said.
    he said what I wanted to say everyday.
    drink party is the biggest enemy to my life.waste of time.

  • @masayau19951118
    @masayau19951118 5 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    建前:いつも投稿気長に待ってます!
    本音:毎秒投稿しろ!

    • @zanteidesu
      @zanteidesu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      本音:いいから俺のために動け!

  • @youssefelbouzidi1016
    @youssefelbouzidi1016 4 ปีที่แล้ว +151

    Ok this was awesome. I love the fact that with Tatemae we can avoid useless fights but seriously, this is so hard to get... you never know when someone is honest and it is also kinda sad.

    • @KirosanaPerkele
      @KirosanaPerkele 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      With Honne we can avoid useless banter though. ;)

    • @ethanstump
      @ethanstump 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it's almost like honesty is important. even when you don't want it to be!

    • @iota-09
      @iota-09 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Ngl, this has slowly become the reason i think i'll never move to japan.

    • @zeki1
      @zeki1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It may be that honesty is only reserved to close friends. The ones you are comfortable in telling the truth.

    • @iota-09
      @iota-09 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@zeki1 opinions of course, but i genuinely believe that lack of honesty is what led to most wars and tragedy in the world... consider that.

  • @murasyo
    @murasyo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    本当に面白い。

  • @jrwhisky
    @jrwhisky 5 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    My hight school students love this video, I don't think they get it but they sure think a foreigner spaaking Japanese in perfect pitch is hilarious. Since they are laughing the hardest at the beginning when he just says short japanese lesson.

    • @ffls2706
      @ffls2706 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In which country?

    • @yjk92
      @yjk92 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@ffls2706 they probably teach English in Japan.

  • @chowderhead18
    @chowderhead18 4 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    “女 だ か ら”

    • @Eaode
      @Eaode 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      F

  • @noragaminatsume4162
    @noragaminatsume4162 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    "My dog will love these"
    「食わんし」 are strangely equally as funny 😆

  • @MissHanake
    @MissHanake 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    literally everything you make is pure gold!!!!

  • @user-qo7zm9sv4g
    @user-qo7zm9sv4g 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    どーげんは前から今のレベルだと思っていたけどめちゃめちゃ細かい部分が改善されてるの、見てわかる。日本語マスターへの執念を感じます。てか、動画自体が面白すぎて大好き

  • @WaaDoku
    @WaaDoku 5 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    The saddest part about this is that I can't share this with any of my Japanese friends because it's too real xDD

    • @TheShiningEnergy
      @TheShiningEnergy ปีที่แล้ว

      but they must know. They need a dose of reality. As do we.

  • @Gekinokeiko
    @Gekinokeiko 5 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    申し訳ないけど毎秒動画出してくれないと困る。俺はもう道元さん以外で満足できない。

  • @ulrike1587
    @ulrike1587 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It really feels like 8 different people in this one video. Dogen's acting is great

  • @ZarlanTheGreen
    @ZarlanTheGreen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +527

    The honne/tatemae dichotomy isn't a Japanese thing. It's a human thing.
    That said, this is a nice illustration of, and comment on, the typical Japanese office environment. Also brilliant comedy.

    • @dacodastrack7271
      @dacodastrack7271 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      God bless your soul

    • @Hwyadylaw
      @Hwyadylaw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +144

      It's not exclusive to Japan, but compared to the west (broadly speaking) it's far more extreme.

    • @Nippontradamus
      @Nippontradamus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It also reminded me of the Honest Series by AIB. They had the same juxtaposition of the honest stuff with calm and normal faces and gestures.

    • @YumiFMB
      @YumiFMB 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      It is taken to a whole other level in Japan, however

    • @IronicHavoc
      @IronicHavoc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      There are degrees of it though that can vary significantly by culture. I even see plenty of Japanese people comment on how blunt Westerners can be by comparison.

  • @lastsaneman19
    @lastsaneman19 5 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    "また安っぽいお煎餅" ITS TOO REAL

    • @hugoclarke3284
      @hugoclarke3284 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Honestly I prefer them to some of the more "exotic" souvenirs

  • @SakanaKuKuRu
    @SakanaKuKuRu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I couldn't catch some of the honne parts
    建前
    A お 山本さん、旅行はどうだった。
    B ああ、楽しかったよ。 お、土産買ってきたよ、
    A おお、ありがとう!
    B いや、つまんないことは悪いよ
    A いやいや、素晴らしいもんだ
    B よかったよ。海はクリアブルーでね
    A ええ、ジェラシーに感じさせないよ、はい奥さん元気にしている?
    B うん、元気元気
    A この前渡したケーキに気に入ってくれたのだな?
    B 全部食べたよ
    A 大学時代にそなケーキが好きだと教えてくれた
    B 相見積もりはどうなってるか?
    A ああれは日立にしたんだ、一番安くていいものを作ってくれるから。
    B 日立か。いいね。では、いつくる?
    A あ、そっか。今日の三時だったんだ。
    B あ、あっちゃん、三時になったらお茶を出してくれますか
    C 温かいものはいいですか。それとも、冷たいものはいいですか。
    B どっちでもいいですか。
    C かしこまりました。
    社長:皆おはよう~
    AB: 社長おはようございます
    社長:夕方の打ち合わせことなんだけどキャンセルになったから、皆の見に行かない?
    A:是非来ますよ
    B:僕も来ます!
    本音
    A: 山本さん、お前のせいで先週皆残業した
    B:あんたのことが嫌いけど、一緒に働いてるから仕方なくこれを買ってきた。
    A: お、また安っぽい煎餅買う、ていうかこう安心(?)
    B:じゃあ、今度は2000円のものを買ってね。
    A:千円のものにするよ
    B:英語が話せるようになりたい
    A:俺も
    B:あ、久美子は元気?
    A:お願いだからやめて
    B:大学時代に俺彼女と付き合っていたことが言ったっけ?
    A:毎週言ってる。
    B:一回ダボ穂いた(?)時にはイチャイチャして…
    A:仕事の話にしよう
    B:日立にしたよ。一番安くていいもの作ってくれないけど、まあ昔から付き合ってるからね
    A:だよな。ていうかいつもそうしているから、もう相見積もりなんかも要らなくね
    B:あ、あっちゃん、三時になったら、お茶を出せ!
    C:それ、何で私はやらなきゃいけないの?
    B:女だから
    C:このオフイスで一番働いてるし
    社長:僕ボースだから遅刻してんいいだ
    B:そう、真面目に仕事しなきゃ
    A:社長今日もタバコ臭い(がしている)ですよ
    C:昨日、妻がとうとう離婚届を出した、今日は一緒に飲んでくれ
    B:ギタの練習はできなくなちゃう
    A:まじ死んだ方が増しです

  • @killerbanshe3
    @killerbanshe3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    i would rather die. Speaks to me on at least 8 different levels.

  • @imry0586
    @imry0586 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    社長の離婚届のところ好き

  • @user-ei2ih3vo4x
    @user-ei2ih3vo4x 5 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    英語が喋れるようになりたいは草

    • @senjusan6359
      @senjusan6359 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I want to speak Japanese. Wanna trade our languages maybe?

    • @user-dl5ux6ur4s
      @user-dl5ux6ur4s 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@senjusan6359 If you´re OK with me,I want to it!

    • @tapist3482
      @tapist3482 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @ぽる山田ポルキチ Even better: we use a real-time translator or an integrated neural chip to understand every language in the world.

    • @franciscotavares9529
      @franciscotavares9529 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@user-dl5ux6ur4s Senjusanが答えてくれなかったらしいので、僕で良ければ、練習相手になりませんか?

    • @tantanryuryo5716
      @tantanryuryo5716 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tapist3482 the real, REAL future: every baby born can speak like a professor of every known language

  • @gabrielshinohara228
    @gabrielshinohara228 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    OMG 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
    社長 「妻が離婚届けを出したんだ、一緒に飲んでくれ」
    付き合ってやれよー wwwwww

  • @ennn9543
    @ennn9543 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Omg this is so true!!! This video describes my work environment perfectly. This is exactly I find it hilarious when tourists say that Japanese are sweet people 🤣

    • @gabija5304
      @gabija5304 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      日本人ってすごく怖いですよ。日本で滞在したことのある私はよくわかる(笑)

  • @haruna2380
    @haruna2380 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    From the view of a typical Japanese, this is absolutely amazing stuff. Probably it would be a bit hard to understand for foreigners but we’ve already knew it(that it hardly happen in other countries), so don't hesitate to visit here! Additionally, I'm sure I heard that there's the same notion in the UK...or maybe my mistake.
    Sorry for my poor English😇

    • @TheScratchingKiwi
      @TheScratchingKiwi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It happens in English speaking countries too. We have a lot of ways to deliver insults/brutal honesty with a smile in the right situations (that is to say, when it's not a good idea to be honest).
      "You're looking well.", "Have a nice day.", "Thank you." can mean so many things and many of them are not nice.
      I can't stand such fakery. There's also a saying in English: "If you don't have something good to say, say nothing.".
      Probably the reason I doze whenever I am around people! LOL

    • @hermenegildakociubinska6665
      @hermenegildakociubinska6665 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Things that might confuse foreigners: 1) expectations to bring small souvenirs to your colleagues after you take a holiday; 2) expectation to drink with your boss after work. The rest is pretty much universal.

    • @abigailfulbrook5644
      @abigailfulbrook5644 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yes, British people are pretty good at this too, but Japanese are masters!

    • @nothinglastsforever0000
      @nothinglastsforever0000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Pretty sure mental health problem in both Japan and the UK is majorly contributed by this social culture/norms. Every countries has them but omg. As a British person myself, I get confused about what I really think myself a lot.

    • @thorbergson
      @thorbergson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nothinglastsforever0000 "what I really think myself" that's gold :))) a line worthy to be in a good comedy

  • @alumba
    @alumba 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks for the lesson. I feel confident going into my performance appraisal on Monday.

  • @lucifermeowstar4604
    @lucifermeowstar4604 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I may never get the full context of these but your delivery is always on point.
    My man!

  • @akirasan9160
    @akirasan9160 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    In Japan, honne are a person's true feelings and desires, and tatemae are the behavior and opinions one displays in public. -Wikipedia
    Aah.. now i understand😂

    • @RzelAkira
      @RzelAkira 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      To be simple
      Tatemae ( Front Shield ) = hiding true feeling with a shield a.k.a act professional and respectful
      Honne = straight forward burning them

  • @FunkyBukkyo
    @FunkyBukkyo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +270

    お願いだからやめて

  • @doc.mai1
    @doc.mai1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Hahahahahahaha XD
    As a Japanese-Australian, this is just spot on. You really nailed the tatemae vs honne. The last "honestly I'd rather die" just cracked me up

    • @RabbiHerschel
      @RabbiHerschel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      >Japanese
      >Australian
      pick one

    • @howtoappearincompletely9739
      @howtoappearincompletely9739 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RabbiHerschel Japanese-Australian = an Australian citizen or resident of Japanese descent, or one with mixed Japanese and Australian ancestry. Hardly an either/or.

    • @RabbiHerschel
      @RabbiHerschel ปีที่แล้ว

      @@howtoappearincompletely9739 wrong. Australians are the descendents of the British settlers on the Australian continent.

    • @__-pg7bd
      @__-pg7bd ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RabbiHerschel Do aboriginal people just not exist or...?

  • @tensaimontv
    @tensaimontv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dogen that's brilliant, one of your best yet, love the characterizations, and painfully accurate

  • @user-qc4hd5wj6l
    @user-qc4hd5wj6l 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    過去最高に面白いねw

  • @OneOfPhilHardison
    @OneOfPhilHardison 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    面白すぎてしんどいです😂😂😂

  • @ravenblackwell4408
    @ravenblackwell4408 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You’ve outdone yourself with this one; thanks so much for doing vids like these, they’re the brighthest part of my day

  • @itagane7288
    @itagane7288 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for making these videos. They are hilarious and weirdly informing at the same time ^^

  • @SuryaZakura
    @SuryaZakura 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yesterday we were shown this video in our university during a lesson on Honne and Tatemae (for BA JAPANESE course 3rd year DSE)
    And man could we hold our laughter in XD
    There wasn't a single person in the room who din get a stomach ache from laughing after watching this😂
    The reason we had such a great shock upon seeing the honne was,we were asked to First guess with our teammates and write down what places Tatemae must have been used in the conversation.
    And we honestly,never in our wildest dreams could have thought that in reality, it was Tatemae from start to finish,that too with such an intense war goin on beneath the surface 😂
    The funniest part was that right after the video my teammate commented saying "ii shatsu kiteiru ne" to me and I felt super touched and was in the middle of saying thank you when i suddenly stopped and realised that he was actually using Tatemae,cuz after saying that he lowkey turned his head to hold in his laughter 😂

  • @nami4978
    @nami4978 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    むしろ外国の人にはもう少し建前を覚えてほしい。
    カナダの学校の初日、先生が聞いてもいないのにいきなり「私寿司嫌いなの」って言ってきてびっくりした。
    カナダ滞在中美味しいと思ったご飯一つもなかったけど、失礼だからそんなこと絶対にカナダ人には言わないよ。
    アメリカいたときに、「日本人は犬食べるから嫌い」だとか、私が病気になったときに「伝染りたくないんだけど」とか、そういうことを面と向かって言われて、それが本音なんだろうけど嫌な気持ちになった。
    つーか、犬なんか食わないわ。
    相手のこと考えないで自分の言いたいこと言い過ぎるからくだらない争いがなくならないんじゃないのかな

    • @m0ppu
      @m0ppu ปีที่แล้ว +1

      それは「本音を言っちゃった」というの問題ではなくて、差別でしょう?問題は、そもそもそのような考えを持つことだと思う。悪い思考パターンを正すには、それを声に出して聞くしかないかも、社会的に

  • @w15hful
    @w15hful 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    心地よい振り切れ方

  • @mimisheean6648
    @mimisheean6648 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’ve watched this like 10 times, and it always makes me laugh.

  • @Moraag
    @Moraag 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Gotta love the reality of everything

  • @SpectatorAlius
    @SpectatorAlius 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This hilarious episode deserves everyone of the 4.4K upvotes it got! And that is honne, not tatemae!

  • @ElFlippage
    @ElFlippage 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just wanted to chime in and say I saw your channel referenced elsewhere and wondered if it was THAT Dogen from waaaay back in the day who did the excellent tricks tutorials videos - and lo and behold it is! Cool to see you stuck with the content.

  • @animegirl5165
    @animegirl5165 5 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    For not being a female employee, Dogen, you sure are serving DAT TEA *badummtsssss*

  • @ShibaASMR
    @ShibaASMR 5 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Yamamoto’s wife used to go to a ラブホテル and play with a bicycle seat... hardcore.

    • @cjsanandreas1000
      @cjsanandreas1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bicycle seat is supposed to mean "penis" ????

    • @RzelAkira
      @RzelAkira 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Its not meant to be a penis, but its some kind of easy to get DIY sex toy lel. But tbh there is some weird kink about it, where someone in japan especially likes to stole the seat from the bicycle (yes its a crime in a lot of ways), i know this from my friend that lives in japan xD

  • @neko7077
    @neko7077 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    強烈に毒が効いてるw

  • @vmgNarra
    @vmgNarra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This may be your best video yet! I died laughing!

  • @qp7ebe
    @qp7ebe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    辛辣すぎる。。
    建前と本音は、更にもう一つの言語みたいなもんだから日本人にも難しいよ。。

  • @metaforically
    @metaforically 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dogen,
    Intellectual humor is rare and should be celebrated.
    My hats off to you!

  • @dontme6152
    @dontme6152 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    tatemae means the behaviour you display in public like a "mask" , and honne means ones true feelings

  • @marikaefer
    @marikaefer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You're an absolute artist, I'm so glad I found your channel.

  • @SakanaOtoko
    @SakanaOtoko 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I've got 3 boxes of sable for co workers sitting beside me I feel this video so much

  • @lekhanhtrangtran5739
    @lekhanhtrangtran5739 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just love his humour and acting sooo much. Sooooo passive agressive.

  • @raik9536
    @raik9536 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    面白かったです(笑)
    建前じゃないよ、信じてくれ、すごく面白いけどさ。。。

  • @Kam_in_korea
    @Kam_in_korea 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't know people could fall in love with a TH-cam channel!

  • @Q-BOT
    @Q-BOT 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg man your channel kills it. This video is hilarious AND educational. I'm sure there's a word for that...

  • @fador1337
    @fador1337 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honne stuff is some of Dogen's best work.

  • @mirlamontano6640
    @mirlamontano6640 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this was so much more deeper than I thought it was going to be.
    im not dissapointed

  • @sweetarchangel6748
    @sweetarchangel6748 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love ths one. Perfection. Honne is pretty much how I feel most of the time.

  • @alastorcrow2180
    @alastorcrow2180 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dogen you always deliver! That was hilarious but it's right on point. I could almost hear the nervous laughing cry of any OL that watches this.

  • @Exkajer
    @Exkajer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Pure gold.

  • @Japanesemen
    @Japanesemen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    会社行きたくなくなるじゃねぇかw

  • @cinnamonstick8092
    @cinnamonstick8092 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    いやいやいやいや…日本人の考えてること、よくご存知!
    あなたは千里眼ですか?DOGENさん?💥🤭🍥

  • @lionguysai
    @lionguysai 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely one of your best videos so far

  • @50m_regent
    @50m_regent 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like how you translate 俺こういうの食わんし to My dog will love these

  • @thejakeyboi
    @thejakeyboi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Oh if only the real world was more honne... This was hilarious man!

    • @thichinhphan4010
      @thichinhphan4010 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The internet is completely honne.

    • @thichinhphan4010
      @thichinhphan4010 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ask the channers, they do it for free :)

  • @Basilisks666
    @Basilisks666 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    An incredible repost, the levels of passive agressivity that can be achieved in Japanese culture never cease to amaze me.

  • @kpfluger15
    @kpfluger15 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "I would honestly rather die" ah. Me on the day to day regarding the smallest of inconveniences

  • @Bearfisted
    @Bearfisted 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing work as always dogen!

  • @peppekopiiii
    @peppekopiiii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    クソワロタけど、本音と建前って大事よな

  • @Iloveyusomuch
    @Iloveyusomuch 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you're awesome. You've easly become one my favorite channel

  • @consumingkazoos
    @consumingkazoos 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the song in the beginning is called commando steve. i forgot the artist though, but iirc it might be made by bossfight (the same music artist that made milky ways, the iconic roblox speed run 4 song)

  • @christahorton4964
    @christahorton4964 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought that he gave him a bottle of water at frist lol. U never fail to make me smile. Thanks for another great video!

  • @TheHollandHS
    @TheHollandHS ปีที่แล้ว

    One doesnt change itself to adapt
    One hides itself to adapt.

  • @ayumisakaguchi3624
    @ayumisakaguchi3624 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Discovered you fairly recently、and I am so happy that I have to much content left to watch. ❤ this video reminded me a little of Kyoto passive aggressiveness 😂 Will keep watching 😎

  • @ajisaiart
    @ajisaiart 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you! You nailed it!

  • @ana-maria2215
    @ana-maria2215 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been watching your videos for the past hour. Your sarcasm is so on point everytime, I love it

  • @zucc4764
    @zucc4764 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd love to see Dogen do stories again. Please tell me I'm not the only one.

  • @haruka7010
    @haruka7010 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    これほんと好きなんだよな~

  • @mahdi8835
    @mahdi8835 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    that went drak real fast

  • @rompom3833
    @rompom3833 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am so happy that I found your channel! I have been binge watching from yesterday, you are a true genius!!!!

  • @yayalu8650
    @yayalu8650 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This may be one of your most underrated videos

  • @DashiSmash
    @DashiSmash 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is such a well-written video. Good acting too.

  • @nayde1592
    @nayde1592 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    突然の女だからに吹いたw

  • @jorgequinteros4553
    @jorgequinteros4553 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely 天才 as always!

  • @Karnak077
    @Karnak077 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    onna dakara...
    I died

  • @mimimitsu
    @mimimitsu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    When you delve too deep into personal life-

  • @watluxid
    @watluxid 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I really thought there was a pregnancy being hinted at with *clear blue*, since followed by the wife binging on cake

  • @dahliacross3584
    @dahliacross3584 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will share this video with my JTEs at our dinner next week ngl

  • @johnsalchichon3605
    @johnsalchichon3605 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dogen san the best japanese youtuber

  • @deedanner6431
    @deedanner6431 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "Because you're a woman."😂