Enjoyed your video. Years ago on elevator in our area built a new bin When the bin was about full the bolt heads started to pop off. It sounded like a 22 rifle shot. We all started to haul corn out of it and it didn’t explode. The bin company came back and replaced every bolt. No one was hurt now I look back and it was like being back in the service. Pop and you would hear or see a bolt head go by.
As a farmer they are not engenearing grain bins heavy enough when you get that big. Corn has gotten a lot denser. 56 lbs per bushel is now 60 to62 lbs per bushel. That extra 5 lbs times 800,000 bushel is a lot of weight.
I agree with you. Oddly enough beans are going the other way now. Should be 60 lbs per bushel. This year we had as low as 52 come in. Usually, average around 55. I am an elevator superintendent.
This was the first time i've watched one of your videos. I'm impressed , I subscribed to your channel looking forward to more videos. Glad no one is hurt and that elevator collapse. God was watching out for everyone around there
Hi Andy. I just saw this on your channel. We had just been by there. We drove over from Indiana to buy some combine belts. I couldn’t believe it when I saw it. I’m so glad it didn’t happen during the day. Your coverage of this and your comments about it were very informative. God bless
The 20yrs i been in grain business, i have been around 3 bin collapsings. They way that one came apart, I would lean to faulty anchor bolt install and the way stiffners were tied in. Lot of times new structures are slapped together and follow up quality control is overlooked or forgotten. Harvest time go go go!
We had two grain bins that were made of corrugated metal, and they started to buckle, by making the corrugations smaller. It was most likely caused by the weight of grain on each rib adding up for the whole height of the structure. As soon as we emptied each bin, we installed vertical metal buttresses, to take the downward forces.
The elevator a couple of miles from us had a bin collapse several years ago. We were outside working on the combine & we heard it when it collapsed. Luckily there was nobody hurt because somebody happened to drive by & noticed a crease in the bin & called the elevator & everybody was able to get out. The scale house was destroyed. Then some years later they had an explosion & the scale house was destroyed again.
Interesting that you use the tanker to mix your chemical and water together. How do you avoid chemical cross contamination? Where we are we only use tankers to haul fresh water to the sprayer and then add the chemical as you fill the sprayer.
Our herbicide plan is arranged in a way where the sprayer is only running on 1 crop type at a time. It allows an intermediary period to clean everything out between crops. It's not too difficult.
I used to be a volunteer firefighter, once had a building collapse due to weight of water on the roof. The drains were all blocked and roof collapsed due to weight of the water
Hi Andy, thanks for sharing your day with us. That bin collapse was bad but on the bright side, at least they're getting some dry weather to clean it up. I cant imagine the smell if the corn got wet and started to rot.....Thankfully no one was hurt....
Andy I am a structural engineer. I watched the video several times. The best I can tell the seam right where it’s still standing went first. Then you see the entire bin drop down, then the seam above the stiffeners goes next because it pours over the top of them. With a clean break all the way around like that, all it takes is one bad spot, or the stiffeners weren’t bolted down, and with that amount of weight above it,,,, down it comes. What I did notice are the new sheets on the other big bin that were replaced. I wonder if that bin had damage or sheets replaced where it failed. For strength I would think the stiffeners would be offset not a straight line all the way around in one spot. Like the sheets are offset where the connecting seams are at. That offset gives you a little more strength. Pure conjecture and glad no one was killed.
I am in southern IL. The corn had a high test weight (density) this year, probably due to the type of weather and that the corn was mostly dry at harvest. The bin may have had more tons of corn in it than ever before. I was hauling corn on wagons. Several of them broke stud bolts in the wheels. I have never had that happen before. I had to replace stud bolts and lug nuts. I told my dad not to fill the wagons so full.
@@darringstewart2360 I think you're onto something, given the major temperature changes over the course of this year (and relative humidity) - if it got moisture into the top of the bin and add one weak vertical seam and you get a disaster. I'm more curious about that ring that's between the bin and the road - it really does look like it burst
it is obvious that they were not monitoring the temperature of the corn. It started to ferment and producing methane. The pressure from the gas built up until a weak spot gave way and down she went IOW, the bin was destroyed by a giant fart
Having worked in the elevator business for many years, I have seen this type thing on a couple of different occasions. Both were large steel bins that were newer bins, and larger sized. Both were close to the railroad tracks as well. The thing that was similar in these cases was that the harvest was very good with high test weight grain. The ones I alluded to to were wheat filled, while the one showed here was corn, but the thing I heard in my examples were that the high test weight grain close to the busy railroad tracks are subject to packing due to the pounding of the trains going through. Over time this pounding packs the grain tighter to the point it will break the bolts and/or cause the lower rings to fail as they are not built to handle the excess weight and stress. I am no engineer so this is just what I remember hearing at the time. Food for thought I guess…….. Either way the good thing is no one got hurt, and the farmers should be able to build it back better than it was…..
Have heard of others that have had collapses that the grain was being drawn from the bin and was not flowing in the center( coming) but was hung up and created a void to the side and with all the weight from above caused the side to buckle!
lol, said "Arcola" out loud and all five cats came running for food. Grew up in Pesotum. glad I found a channel I can pay attention to sorta local to there. I've told people about the land being so flat that you end up with tiger stripes instead of cow spots of wet and dry when you look by satellite. A disk set that isn't balanced front-to-back can cause enough spread or gather to leave shallows on each pass! I figure the had a fan out of balance or a couple harmonizing for too long attached too hard to the bin. Corn. That record harvest of 623b/ac last year I figured to be an almost continuous single laying-flat layer of kernels across the harvested acre. Seems like a fun handy number!
Reminds me of: Great Molasses Flood {1919}, disaster in Boston that occurred after a storage tank collapsed on January 15, 1919, sending more than two million gallons (eight million litres) of molasses flowing through the city’s North End. The deluge caused extensive damage and killed 21 people.
In 2008 Cedar Falls had a once in 500 year flood and the CF Coop was only half a block from the river, well ya know what happens when dry stored corn gets wet ???? yea it expands and it split one of the main storage bins right up one side, now the Coop is far from the river in the new North Industrial Park. Twas one hell of a deal
Neat tanker, I would advice keeping the plastic cap, stainless thread on stainless thread can be more likely to leak. It can also be a pain to take stainless threads apart after prolonged use. Just keep the plastic cap and replace it every couple years if it starts looking brittle. It all depends on how often you plan on uncapping it really, plastic probably more user friendly.
I’ve learned that all the farmers core their bins, which makes total sense. It’s like fermentation, the center gets the most FM, would hold heat & moisture under pressure. I’ll tell ya, the farmers who’ve put the reclaim system on their sprayers love them. They said it saves chemical too bc they’re not have to flush the system out between chemicals. I’m sure you’ll keep us posted on what you think!
We came up with vaccumes just for this kind of accidents... our vaccumes are made in different sizes for different kind of accidents... we also have 18 wheelers in different sizes to carry stuff like this... rigs with hoppers unless you want your corn stored in your own bins, we have long hoses that can reach 1000 ft from the accident sight...
In the days of sail, grain shipments were a real danger....not from explosion, but from expansion. Wheat or particularly rice absorb water and catastrophically swell-up, splitting the hull open at sea. And wood and early iron hulls leaked. Grain ships left Australia for Europe and were never heard from again.
You must look for a conveyor that is able to move on its own. Small engine runs hydraulic lines to wheels & raises & lowers. (I am sure you know what I mean) You can’t keep pulling & lifting. Once your back goes nothing will ever be easy. I know 3 back surgeries.
Wonder if some of the bolts started popping and shearing before it went down? One a few years ago had bolts shearing before it came down. It was attributed too a worn die used to punch the bolt holes in the panels.
i wonder if they have any empty bins to put the "clean" corn into? I would assume that the corn in the bottom section is still clean and the corn that is several feet deep would still be clean too. Hopefully there is concrete under the rest, but if they have an experienced skid steer or bucket loader operator they can recover the bulk of the corn without contaminating too much of it.
Any place with bunkers. They have a snowblower *low speed* front on a belt conveyer out back on self propelled unit. *never run one but looked it over*. It looks like they drive in, convey into trucks. My grain vac is rated 3000 BPH IIRC. But I figure self propelled unit get 5” from ground. Grain vac for rest.
I would assume that they will just move it down to the next user if they are spending money to load it onto trucks. Another commenter said it is being sent to Decatur, IL, which is about 40 miles straight west of Arcola. That is ADMs hub...absolutely ginormous grain processing city.
Sorry to see the bin failure. ChemGro in Hillsboro, Iowa had a similar accident with a 900,000 bushel bin collapse about 10 years ago. Enjoy your videos. Thank you.
The problems some steel bin is ground shift or maintenance here western canada gov't start show up for inspection on grain terminal.the reason they go concrete cost lot more build but last long time.i saw some being scrap and rebuild in concrete here alberta.thanks video😮
Glad I found this video!! This stuff is so cool! I know a little bit about farming but this scale is GINORMOUS!! Thank you and your family and helpers for what yall do. Y'all definitely keep this country fed and going. Pray y'all have a Great year.
Have your tire dealer check that weather checking tire for possible warranty coverage on the casing. Typically if it is a Tier 1 Casing (Bridgestone or Michelin) the casing has an incredibly long warranty period - 8 years. There's a date code on the tire.
Thankfully it was corn and not oats/barley/wheat…would have been a fire and possibly an explosion. That time of day and the air condition probably helped. Moisture in the air.
Interesting to hear the "Arcola" name again after not traveling from the Chicago 'burbs to Willow Hill, the south end of IL 49, to visit Grand folks in the 40's & 50's. Was the joke my folks told about Arcola, Tuscola, and isn't there a CocaCola? as we passed through the area in Dads Model A Ford a local joke too? Wow 800K bushels of corn bin collapse. Strikes me (now 84 yrs) that a picture I have of the wood grain elevator Grandpa built in Willow Hill by the R.R. probably in the late 20's or 30's was maybe only a few hundred bushels. Haven't been through there in decades now. Like the rest of the world things 'they has' changed all over. Living here in the Madison WI area for the last 50 years or so we've seen quite a change here as well. Good luck to you as you grow corn in that really flat part of Illinois. We've watched the farmers here grow crops to feed the cows, milk them and haul the milk down the road to either be bottled, or turned into cheese. Safe farmin' to you. JimM
You should see the amount of corn that went in the Mississippi River years ago at La Grange Missouri. Temporary blocked old 61 Which now bypasses LaGrange Missouri.
that house gonna get brand new garage coming soon!! out of curiosity.... how much would that house owner get if he/she were able to sell the corn that is within the property lines. @15:31
Your Neal Tire must be better than ours in Decatur. Literally stood behind a customer who had 2 day old tires that were leaking, and claimed no damage. Suspected leaking beads. And manager told him because he didn't buy a tire warranty, that if the beads were leaking he would have to pay regardless. Wouldn't even bring the car in to check their work over. Won't do business with the decatur Neal stores.
It’s always so strange for me to flat ground as far as the eye can see being born & raised in PA. I’ve always had a mountain range on either side of me.
It is both a beautiful and underwhelming landscape at the same time. It only gets more open by the day. Most farmers would rather not have tree lines in this area due to the negative effects on yield, so they rip them out if possible. I'd enjoy a nice hilly grove to hideaway in at some point 🤣
@@aTrippyFarmer The only way we can see far is from lookout points on mountain tops. You’d get your fill of mountains & hills for sure! The Appalachian mountain range runs through our state.
Stop winging you yanks. Australia is the flatest country on earth. Nullarbor plain railway line over 300 miles dead straight and less than 1 foot change in elevation and NO TREES AT ALL. you can see the curve of the earth.
I would be very careful about using SS on SS it has a very bad habit of galling, the plastic cap should be well suited for what it is doing if you do use a SS cap be sure to use plenty of never-seize to help keep it from galling and don't over tighten. I was a pipe fitter for 40 yrs in a chemical plant I know a lot about SS.
a local elevator put up a 600,000 bushel steel bin but discovered the contractor had used low strength counterfeit bolts and had to replace them all or that bin might have failed, like the one you showed, maybe it had cheap bolts in it too?
You never know where the builder cut corners to be the lowest bid. TGM bought this facility after the newest bin was built, so they didn't oversee anything. Maybe they need to add a full-facility inspection to all elevators of this size to make sure everything is the correct spec?
There was a grain bin collapse at Miami Valley Feed & Grain, in New Carlisle, Ohio back in November 2020. They had to,clean up 10,000 tons of corn. I don’t believe they ever figured what caused it.
A lot of that grain is recoverable and hopefully it does not get wet. Reinforcement straps around various sections of the bin at the ring joints would help to stop a burst.
Well here is the low down on this. I would like to know what year it was built. I’d like to know if this was a working bin (loaded and reloaded before emptied). Once you have this knowledge then we can discuss what happened. Simple as that.
Replace the cap with a brass valve and put the cap after the valve. Stainless steel on stainless steel has a tendency to gall and then it's very hard to get them apart.
I have seen this numerous times in my life and they always seem to follow a pattern. These problems usually arise when the decision is made to push warm, moist air through a cold grain mass with aeriation fans. I don't know why, but it is common practice among many to lower the temperature of the grain mass to subfreezing temperatures which has always gone against my better judgement. Yes, cold grain does store better for a longer duration, but other challenges will present themselves as weather conditions change around the storage facility. My THEORY on what is going on: Corn shrinks when it is dried and expands when it takes on moisture (within the kernel). Normally, the grain is already dry when it is placed in the bin and can be of any temperature. At some point, the decision is made to aerate the grain (a good practice) to lower the temperature of the grain mass to that of the outside conditions. Note, air temperatures are usually well below freezing during these winter months. Some time later, the grain is desired to be aerated, again a good practice that helps keep the grain in good condition. But the problem arises with using excessively warm, moist air. What happens next is that a rewetting front develops in the grain mass causing the the grain mass to expand. Stresses then rise in the structure to the point of failure. The process is highly analogous to what is experienced with freezing water pipes.
I'm no expert, but I think scale houses usually sit next to the scale, not on top of the scale platform. It actually looks in pretty good condition considering it moved at least 20 feet.
If you put a stainless steel cap on that nipple it will have to be lubricated every use with nickel never seize or liquid graphite to prevent the stainless to stainless threads from galling. If the threads gall you’ll need a grinder to split the cap to prevent destroying the nipple threads. Think I’d keep the plastic.
@@aTrippyFarmerworked in nuclear industry for years with stainless steel piping. Learned some of that the hard way, been there, done that but they wouldn’t give me the T shirt.
I think there is an air pocket in there on purpose. There might be some kind of a gap in the shell that requires venting. I could be wrong... that's why you have to fill it with water before you put the expensive stuff in!
I'm not sure if I understand your question. Almost all farms here raise corn and soybeans exclusively. Once you get into the fertile black-lands, most farmers don't even grow wheat. The only specialty crops that you might see are occasional fields of seed corn, pumpkins, and seed soybeans (if you even count these as specialty). The combination of the soil type, topography, and climate make this area prime for corn and soybeans. With the right rains and drainage, people can raise 100 bushel soybeans and 300 bushel corn. That's not easy, but it is certainly within possible.
Good Luck This Spring ! Be Safe. Work Harder AND Smarter ! And to think the metal, brick or concrete silos on farms used to last for decades; generations even, with proper construction and maintenance. Then we see farmers spend a million dollars on new metal grain storage sights and they aren't even put together correctly, much less functional . . . and the farmer has to sue the contractor. BTW. Just Venting. When I was a kid the only thing we did with corn was use it for food. Some went to granges to process into flour or livestock feed. Growing corn just to cook it into alcohol to 'water down' gasoline is adding insult to injury in half a dozen ways. If we needed sipping 'moonshine' we made our own. And don't get me started on the damage most of the 'fertilizers' we have been using since the late 1940's has reeked on the soil.
Yes. It hasn't been used in a long while. We replaced the comp-u-dry system in 2019 thinking the late planting would mean wet corn.... still didn't even need it then!
Very true. The bigger they are means the harder they fall. I think it's all been fenced in temporarily, but I'm sure the mice/rats will be well fed for a long while!
I priced one after seeing the neighbor's... it would be cheaper to just start saving for my back surgery in a few decades than to get that option. Holy smokes are they expensive!!!
I was told that it was full and hasn't been pulled from at all. That could just be heresay. What would it mean to be filled wrong? I always assumed that you just piled it to the top and quit.
I looked at the google earth street view from when the bin was standing. It looks like where it originally blew out was where the structure supporting the overhead conveyor was attached to the bin. Possible that failed and took out the bin???
I would guess most of it is picked up with a loader. You could be right, though. Regardless, it all gets run through a mobile screening unit to get rocks and debris out. As long as it isn't exposed to tremendous amounts of water and warm weather, the corn probably didn't lose a bit of quality.
Grain dust like that only takesa spark and boom! Hella fire!
Enjoyed your video. Years ago on elevator in our area built a new bin When the bin was about full the bolt heads started to pop off. It sounded like a 22 rifle shot. We all started to haul corn out of it and it didn’t explode. The bin company came back and replaced every bolt. No one was hurt now I look back and it was like being back in the service. Pop and you would hear or see a bolt head go by.
“I’m not going to speculate”. Begins to speculate 😂
Speculating on things that I know nothing about is just a guilty indulgence 🤥
As a farmer they are not engenearing grain bins heavy enough when you get that big. Corn has gotten a lot denser. 56 lbs per bushel is now 60 to62 lbs per bushel. That extra 5 lbs times 800,000 bushel is a lot of weight.
I agree with you. Oddly enough beans are going the other way now. Should be 60 lbs per bushel. This year we had as low as 52 come in. Usually, average around 55. I am an elevator superintendent.
@@jerfle7787 The swing on test weights of any crops from year to year is very interesting to say the least.
This was the first time i've watched one of your videos. I'm impressed , I subscribed to your channel looking forward to more videos. Glad no one is hurt and that elevator collapse. God was watching out for everyone around there
We had this happen to a 150,000 bushel bin about 8 years ago. It really is crazy the damage it can cause and the mess it makes.
It is good that no one got hurt there. It's crazy how dangerous some of these things are but we just don't ever consider the risk!
Hi Andy. I just saw this on your channel. We had just been by there. We drove over from Indiana to buy some combine belts. I couldn’t believe it when I saw it. I’m so glad it didn’t happen during the day. Your coverage of this and your comments about it were very informative. God bless
The 20yrs i been in grain business, i have been around 3 bin collapsings. They way that one came apart, I would lean to faulty anchor bolt install and the way stiffners were tied in. Lot of times new structures are slapped together and follow up quality control is overlooked or forgotten. Harvest time go go go!
We had two grain bins that were made of corrugated metal, and they started to buckle, by making the corrugations smaller. It was most likely caused by the weight of grain on each rib adding up for the whole height of the structure. As soon as we emptied each bin, we installed vertical metal buttresses, to take the downward forces.
The elevator a couple of miles from us had a bin collapse several years ago. We were outside working on the combine & we heard it when it collapsed. Luckily there was nobody hurt because somebody happened to drive by & noticed a crease in the bin & called the elevator & everybody was able to get out. The scale house was destroyed. Then some years later they had an explosion & the scale house was destroyed again.
Interesting that you use the tanker to mix your chemical and water together. How do you avoid chemical cross contamination? Where we are we only use tankers to haul fresh water to the sprayer and then add the chemical as you fill the sprayer.
Our herbicide plan is arranged in a way where the sprayer is only running on 1 crop type at a time. It allows an intermediary period to clean everything out between crops. It's not too difficult.
I used to be a volunteer firefighter, once had a building collapse due to weight of water on the roof. The drains were all blocked and roof collapsed due to weight of the water
Hi Andy, thanks for sharing your day with us. That bin collapse was bad but on the bright side, at least they're getting some dry weather to clean it up. I cant imagine the smell if the corn got wet and started to rot.....Thankfully no one was hurt....
Andy I am a structural engineer. I watched the video several times. The best I can tell the seam right where it’s still standing went first. Then you see the entire bin drop down, then the seam above the stiffeners goes next because it pours over the top of them. With a clean break all the way around like that, all it takes is one bad spot, or the stiffeners weren’t bolted down, and with that amount of weight above it,,,, down it comes. What I did notice are the new sheets on the other big bin that were replaced. I wonder if that bin had damage or sheets replaced where it failed. For strength I would think the stiffeners would be offset not a straight line all the way around in one spot. Like the sheets are offset where the connecting seams are at. That offset gives you a little more strength. Pure conjecture and glad no one was killed.
One of the fans was out of balance and hard-secured to the bin I'll bet. Corn has a nasty habit of being a wedge.
I am in southern IL. The corn had a high test weight (density) this year, probably due to the type of weather and that the corn was mostly dry at harvest. The bin may have had more tons of corn in it than ever before. I was hauling corn on wagons. Several of them broke stud bolts in the wheels. I have never had that happen before. I had to replace stud bolts and lug nuts. I told my dad not to fill the wagons so full.
@@darringstewart2360 I think you're onto something, given the major temperature changes over the course of this year (and relative humidity) - if it got moisture into the top of the bin and add one weak vertical seam and you get a disaster. I'm more curious about that ring that's between the bin and the road - it really does look like it burst
it is obvious that they were not monitoring the temperature of the corn. It started to ferment and producing methane. The pressure from the gas built up until a weak spot gave way and down she went
IOW, the bin was destroyed by a giant fart
Having worked in the elevator business for many years, I have seen this type thing on a couple of different occasions. Both were large steel bins that were newer bins, and larger sized. Both were close to the railroad tracks as well. The thing that was similar in these cases was that the harvest was very good with high test weight grain. The ones I alluded to to were wheat filled, while the one showed here was corn, but the thing I heard in my examples were that the high test weight grain close to the busy railroad tracks are subject to packing due to the pounding of the trains going through. Over time this pounding packs the grain tighter to the point it will break the bolts and/or cause the lower rings to fail as they are not built to handle the excess weight and stress. I am no engineer so this is just what I remember hearing at the time. Food for thought I guess…….. Either way the good thing is no one got hurt, and the farmers should be able to build it back better than it was…..
Had an old wheat bin failure few years ago from my area, tiny town. A proportion spilled on railroad track. They think ground had shifted
Have heard of others that have had collapses that the grain was being drawn from the bin and was not flowing in the center( coming) but was hung up and created a void to the side and with all the weight from above caused the side to buckle!
lol, said "Arcola" out loud and all five cats came running for food. Grew up in Pesotum. glad I found a channel I can pay attention to sorta local to there.
I've told people about the land being so flat that you end up with tiger stripes instead of cow spots of wet and dry when you look by satellite. A disk set that isn't balanced front-to-back can cause enough spread or gather to leave shallows on each pass!
I figure the had a fan out of balance or a couple harmonizing for too long attached too hard to the bin.
Corn. That record harvest of 623b/ac last year I figured to be an almost continuous single laying-flat layer of kernels across the harvested acre. Seems like a fun handy number!
Reminds me of: Great Molasses Flood {1919}, disaster in Boston that occurred after a storage tank collapsed on January 15, 1919, sending more than two million gallons (eight million litres) of molasses flowing through the city’s North End. The deluge caused extensive damage and killed 21 people.
In 2008 Cedar Falls had a once in 500 year flood and the CF Coop was only half a block from the river, well ya know what happens when dry stored corn gets wet ???? yea it expands and it split one of the main storage bins right up one side, now the Coop is far from the river in the new North Industrial Park. Twas one hell of a deal
Neat tanker, I would advice keeping the plastic cap, stainless thread on stainless thread can be more likely to leak. It can also be a pain to take stainless threads apart after prolonged use. Just keep the plastic cap and replace it every couple years if it starts looking brittle. It all depends on how often you plan on uncapping it really, plastic probably more user friendly.
I’ve learned that all the farmers core their bins, which makes total sense. It’s like fermentation, the center gets the most FM, would hold heat & moisture under pressure. I’ll tell ya, the farmers who’ve put the reclaim system on their sprayers love them. They said it saves chemical too bc they’re not have to flush the system out between chemicals. I’m sure you’ll keep us posted on what you think!
We came up with vaccumes just for this kind of accidents... our vaccumes are made in different sizes for different kind of accidents... we also have 18 wheelers in different sizes to carry stuff like this... rigs with hoppers unless you want your corn stored in your own bins, we have long hoses that can reach 1000 ft from the accident sight...
In the days of sail, grain shipments were a real danger....not from explosion, but from expansion. Wheat or particularly rice absorb water and catastrophically swell-up, splitting the hull open at sea. And wood and early iron hulls leaked. Grain ships left Australia for Europe and were never heard from again.
Thanks for the update Andy!
Super interesting video. Thank you for sharing about the collapsed grain bin.
Vertical stiffeners. Most newer bins I see have vertical stiffeners that add significant strength to the grain bins.
That would've been a MASSIVE conflagration if that dust cloud found an ignition source.
Great content as always. Keep the action and knowledge coming. Definitely catchya at the next one. You all stay safe!!
You must look for a conveyor that is able to move on its own. Small engine runs hydraulic lines to wheels & raises & lowers. (I am sure you know what I mean) You can’t keep pulling & lifting. Once your back goes nothing will ever be easy. I know 3 back surgeries.
One like this happened in New Carlisle Ohio a few years back. A state route was closed for a week
It's crazy how much a mess the grain can make. I hope no one was hurt in your incident!
@@aTrippyFarmer no one was injured. A buddy just told me that there's a 1.5 million bushel going up in South Charleston Ohio.
I am glad to see Dad is doing well.
Wonder if some of the bolts started popping and shearing before it went down? One a few years ago had bolts shearing before it came down. It was attributed too a worn die used to punch the bolt holes in the panels.
Get out the shop vac's fellas .... gotta pick up this corn.
Used to go by that elevator on my way to work. I noticed you don't live to far from me I'm from Paris.
Yeah you're just to my northwest a bit!
i wonder if they have any empty bins to put the "clean" corn into? I would assume that the corn in the bottom section is still clean and the corn that is several feet deep would still be clean too. Hopefully there is concrete under the rest, but if they have an experienced skid steer or bucket loader operator they can recover the bulk of the corn without contaminating too much of it.
Any place with bunkers. They have a snowblower *low speed* front on a belt conveyer out back on self propelled unit. *never run one but looked it over*. It looks like they drive in, convey into trucks. My grain vac is rated 3000 BPH IIRC. But I figure self propelled unit get 5” from ground. Grain vac for rest.
I would assume that they will just move it down to the next user if they are spending money to load it onto trucks. Another commenter said it is being sent to Decatur, IL, which is about 40 miles straight west of Arcola. That is ADMs hub...absolutely ginormous grain processing city.
Sorry to see the bin failure. ChemGro in Hillsboro, Iowa had a similar accident with a 900,000 bushel bin collapse about 10 years ago.
Enjoy your videos. Thank you.
The problems some steel bin is ground shift or maintenance here western canada gov't start show up for inspection on grain terminal.the reason they go concrete cost lot more build but last long time.i saw some being scrap and rebuild in concrete here alberta.thanks video😮
Glad I found this video!! This stuff is so cool! I know a little bit about farming but this scale is GINORMOUS!! Thank you and your family and helpers for what yall do. Y'all definitely keep this country fed and going. Pray y'all have a Great year.
The neighbor "Its my corn now!"
Have your tire dealer check that weather checking tire for possible warranty coverage on the casing. Typically if it is a Tier 1 Casing (Bridgestone or Michelin) the casing has an incredibly long warranty period - 8 years. There's a date code on the tire.
Thankfully it was corn and not oats/barley/wheat…would have been a fire and possibly an explosion.
That time of day and the air condition probably helped. Moisture in the air.
Agreed. It could've been bad!
Same thing happened at tgm in Toledo Il not too long ago. Unfortunately someone was killed.
Interesting to hear the "Arcola" name again after not traveling from the Chicago 'burbs to Willow Hill, the south end of IL 49, to visit Grand folks in the 40's & 50's. Was the joke my folks told about Arcola, Tuscola, and isn't there a CocaCola? as we passed through the area in Dads Model A Ford a local joke too? Wow 800K bushels of corn bin collapse. Strikes me (now 84 yrs) that a picture I have of the wood grain elevator Grandpa built in Willow Hill by the R.R. probably in the late 20's or 30's was maybe only a few hundred bushels. Haven't been through there in decades now. Like the rest of the world things 'they has' changed all over. Living here in the Madison WI area for the last 50 years or so we've seen quite a change here as well. Good luck to you as you grow corn in that really flat part of Illinois. We've watched the farmers here grow crops to feed the cows, milk them and haul the milk down the road to either be bottled, or turned into cheese. Safe farmin' to you. JimM
Andy, there was a guy who died in Toledo area when there bin collapsed in late fall of 2023. I believe it was just north of Toledo, Illinois
Yes I heard about that. It's always a sad deal when that happens. I don't remember the details.
November 9th, Roger Swim, 64 yrs old. He left behind 1 daughter and 2 young sons. He was the best Dad..
It happened in town, in Toledo, IL.
You should see the amount of corn that went in the Mississippi River years ago at La Grange Missouri. Temporary blocked old 61 Which now bypasses LaGrange Missouri.
I hope they are able to salvage the corn that was in their bin.
They definitely will be able to.
that house gonna get brand new garage coming soon!! out of curiosity.... how much would that house owner get if he/she were able to sell the corn that is within the property lines. @15:31
Good for y'all.... When reversing the cone, remove enough to pull the fines out that hold moisture and heat.....no more bugs and rotting grain
there should be valves on the nozzles then a plug or a cap this way if need be the tank doesn't need to be empty.
Your Neal Tire must be better than ours in Decatur. Literally stood behind a customer who had 2 day old tires that were leaking, and claimed no damage. Suspected leaking beads. And manager told him because he didn't buy a tire warranty, that if the beads were leaking he would have to pay regardless. Wouldn't even bring the car in to check their work over. Won't do business with the decatur Neal stores.
It’s always so strange for me to flat ground as far as the eye can see being born & raised in PA. I’ve always had a mountain range on either side of me.
Yeah same here, I'm in western Maryland
worst part is if your dog gets out, you watch him run away for 3 days
It is both a beautiful and underwhelming landscape at the same time. It only gets more open by the day. Most farmers would rather not have tree lines in this area due to the negative effects on yield, so they rip them out if possible. I'd enjoy a nice hilly grove to hideaway in at some point 🤣
@@aTrippyFarmer The only way we can see far is from lookout points on mountain tops. You’d get your fill of mountains & hills for sure! The Appalachian mountain range runs through our state.
Stop winging you yanks. Australia is the flatest country on earth. Nullarbor plain railway line over 300 miles dead straight and less than 1 foot change in elevation and NO TREES AT ALL. you can see the curve of the earth.
Thats a big clean up!
I would be very careful about using SS on SS it has a very bad habit of galling, the plastic cap should be well suited for what it is doing if you do use a SS cap be sure to use plenty of never-seize to help keep it from galling and don't over tighten. I was a pipe fitter for 40 yrs in a chemical plant I know a lot about SS.
I appreciate that insight. Maybe I will reconsider my plan!
That busted grain bin is just 7 miles from my house.
Not too far!
Happened in Minot, Nd around 2009
Bad deal for the elevator. Cole the Cornstar better get his court case solved soon before this happens to him.
a local elevator put up a 600,000 bushel steel bin but discovered the contractor had used low strength counterfeit bolts and had to replace them all or that bin might have failed, like the one you showed, maybe it had cheap bolts in it too?
You never know where the builder cut corners to be the lowest bid. TGM bought this facility after the newest bin was built, so they didn't oversee anything. Maybe they need to add a full-facility inspection to all elevators of this size to make sure everything is the correct spec?
There was a grain bin collapse at Miami Valley Feed & Grain, in New Carlisle, Ohio back in November 2020. They had to,clean up 10,000 tons of corn. I don’t believe they ever figured what caused it.
Correction it was,January 2018
A lot of that grain is recoverable and hopefully it does not get wet.
Reinforcement straps around various sections of the bin at the ring joints would help to stop a burst.
It has been somewhat dry since that happened. I think it is almost completely picked up now.
Gravity sucks. 😄
Great video!
Why do use hot loads? How do you mix loads that aren’t?
We only get hot loads for the convenience.
Hi Andy where are your combine 36 inch tracks ? Can you put then on s670
We have the tracks in one of our sheds. Im not sure about compatibility with the S670. I would like to think that they'd work. You just never know!
My theory and conjecture is that this is a big mess! Glad nobody was hurt…..
Great analysis!
Well here is the low down on this. I would like to know what year it was built. I’d like to know if this was a working bin (loaded and reloaded before emptied). Once you have this knowledge then we can discuss what happened. Simple as that.
Replace the cap with a brass valve and put the cap after the valve. Stainless steel on stainless steel has a tendency to gall and then it's very hard to get them apart.
Tell Marty to take it easy so he can have a healthy season
You can't keep someone like him down, even if it's for the best. He was made to work!
I have seen this numerous times in my life and they always seem to follow a pattern. These problems usually arise when the decision is made to push warm, moist air through a cold grain mass with aeriation fans.
I don't know why, but it is common practice among many to lower the temperature of the grain mass to subfreezing temperatures which has always gone against my better judgement. Yes, cold grain does store better for a longer duration, but other challenges will present themselves as weather conditions change around the storage facility.
My THEORY on what is going on: Corn shrinks when it is dried and expands when it takes on moisture (within the kernel). Normally, the grain is already dry when it is placed in the bin and can be of any temperature. At some point, the decision is made to aerate the grain (a good practice) to lower the temperature of the grain mass to that of the outside conditions. Note, air temperatures are usually well below freezing during these winter months. Some time later, the grain is desired to be aerated, again a good practice that helps keep the grain in good condition. But the problem arises with using excessively warm, moist air. What happens next is that a rewetting front develops in the grain mass causing the the grain mass to expand. Stresses then rise in the structure to the point of failure. The process is highly analogous to what is experienced with freezing water pipes.
my are the power poles closer to the road than in Canada
I feel bad for the poor homeowner that lived right next door.
fun visit - to teach us - gets our eye balls
that why they have the vertical beams on it.
It seems GSI bins are prone to collapse....
I'm no expert, but I think scale houses usually sit next to the scale, not on top of the scale platform. It actually looks in pretty good condition considering it moved at least 20 feet.
Yes it does look like it was just moved. Some facilities have an actual hard-mounted building for the scale house.
the other big bin looks bent would replace bothbins.
If you put a stainless steel cap on that nipple it will have to be lubricated every use with nickel never seize or liquid graphite to prevent the stainless to stainless threads from galling. If the threads gall you’ll need a grinder to split the cap to prevent destroying the nipple threads. Think I’d keep the plastic.
Someone else said that. You all know more than me!!!
@@aTrippyFarmerworked in nuclear industry for years with stainless steel piping. Learned some of that the hard way, been there, done that but they wouldn’t give me the T shirt.
Whoever put that plastic cap on needs to learn to weld cause that looks like it might leak lol but hopefully not
I think there is an air pocket in there on purpose. There might be some kind of a gap in the shell that requires venting. I could be wrong... that's why you have to fill it with water before you put the expensive stuff in!
Now your corn flakes are going up in price
Corn flakes are made of white corn...I think.
Are there a lot of truck farms out there, here in Ohio we have Swamp farms/ vegetable farmers.
I'm not sure if I understand your question. Almost all farms here raise corn and soybeans exclusively. Once you get into the fertile black-lands, most farmers don't even grow wheat. The only specialty crops that you might see are occasional fields of seed corn, pumpkins, and seed soybeans (if you even count these as specialty). The combination of the soil type, topography, and climate make this area prime for corn and soybeans. With the right rains and drainage, people can raise 100 bushel soybeans and 300 bushel corn. That's not easy, but it is certainly within possible.
It could have been damaged years ago and just now failed. If you end up with a bad layer of corn it will heat up the bin bolts.
Good Luck This Spring ! Be Safe. Work Harder AND Smarter !
And to think the metal, brick or concrete silos on farms used to last for decades; generations even, with proper construction and maintenance.
Then we see farmers spend a million dollars on new metal grain storage sights and they aren't even put together correctly, much less functional . . .
and the farmer has to sue the contractor.
BTW. Just Venting. When I was a kid the only thing we did with corn was use it for food. Some went to granges to process into flour or livestock feed.
Growing corn just to cook it into alcohol to 'water down' gasoline is adding insult to injury in half a dozen ways. If we needed sipping 'moonshine' we made our own.
And don't get me started on the damage most of the 'fertilizers' we have been using since the late 1940's has reeked on the soil.
God bless
I’m sure the insurance company will do an extensive investigation. Keep us posted. Scary stuff
Get brass caps. That way they will not seize on. Check your chemicals to make sure the brass is compatible. Nice work otherwise.
That's what you get when you hire scabbs for your project
When I was watching it look like a failure in the thread ring.
Is that a shvvers dryer in first bin?
Yes. It hasn't been used in a long while. We replaced the comp-u-dry system in 2019 thinking the late planting would mean wet corn.... still didn't even need it then!
Did somebody call the police
The bigger things man makes the greater the disaster upon failure.....all the birds crows deer and rodents are having a field day in that area.
Very true. The bigger they are means the harder they fall. I think it's all been fenced in temporarily, but I'm sure the mice/rats will be well fed for a long while!
I wouldn’t want to live in that house right next to that elevator.
You'd definitely be rethinking your location after this event. I'd be tired of listening to those gigantic fans howl during harvest and winter.
Where is your conveyor mover ? lol .
I priced one after seeing the neighbor's... it would be cheaper to just start saving for my back surgery in a few decades than to get that option. Holy smokes are they expensive!!!
I'm sure you heard about the crazy event that happened at Sloan's in Effingham last week?
What's that?
@derrickpettit86 something fell out of the sky, through the roof of the shop and almost hit a couple of mechanics.
I didn't realize that was at Effingham! Crazy story 🤣
@@brianpayne8931 geeze, that's crazy
Quick question ... if that flammable dust would have ignited, would it have made 800,000 bushels of popcorn??, asking for a friend.
No. I don't think field corn can pop. If it can, I've never heard of it.
I happened drive by 5 mins after it happened
Airplane Bolts?
Straight from Boeing!
Wow thats a disaster.
I wonder how many Todd & Seargent folks are watching... I bet a few...
wow
"Can you imagine what that car is thinking right now?"
Good thing farming is idiot proof nowadays
bin was not filled right
I was told that it was full and hasn't been pulled from at all. That could just be heresay. What would it mean to be filled wrong? I always assumed that you just piled it to the top and quit.
I looked at the google earth street view from when the bin was standing. It looks like where it originally blew out was where the structure supporting the overhead conveyor was attached to the bin. Possible that failed and took out the bin???
Definitely a plausible theory!
don't they use some sort of vacume system to do the clean up and what percentage of that grain is recoverable and sellable ?
I would guess most of it is picked up with a loader. You could be right, though. Regardless, it all gets run through a mobile screening unit to get rocks and debris out. As long as it isn't exposed to tremendous amounts of water and warm weather, the corn probably didn't lose a bit of quality.