How to Get Kicked Out of Dungeons and Dragons
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- Now hear me out.......what if we just played YuGiOh instead?
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Subscribe and like OSQ or I will cast Meteor Swarm on your house
Counterspell
Meteor storm me then
Sees your threat and immediately gets Meteor insurance to get payed for the damage your spell will inflict then taunts you to make sure you go through with your threat
I shall never sub for u did a missoportunity u shouldve pulled: *holds up Snarf* get kicked outta group if u murder him!!! @_O
@@jazztattersall418 Fine then…
…by me and my army with the spell ”Meteor swarm”!
DM: “I don’t allow Chaotic Evil.”
Player: “Okay, Chaotic Neutral.”
Wait… is chaotic neutral not fun for others?
@@beastycubes7043 Chaotic Neutral is what you play if you want to get away with being Chaotic Evil.
Or if you actually know the difference between the two, _and respect it._
@@LocalMaple Chaotic Neutral has the added bonus that if you feel like being nice to someone in between torching orphanages, then you can claim that it's still in character.
Gigachad player: Okay, *_TRUE_* Neutral.
Chaotic Neutral does have a reputation. But personally, I've had much worse experience with Chaotic Good
CG People i've ran with will DEVOUR screen time. They'll be a giant wrench in the party when planning, will pocket and steal from friends, start fights at the drop of a hat, and justify it as "good" because they also donate to the local orphanage or something
Damn.... that "now a talking crab will tell my story" hit so hard, I loved that!
I am 90% sure this is a critcrab reference :D
@@tobiasmeiner9042 dang, I was sure it was a Little Mermaid reference, and any second, we would hear him start to song.
@@cryofpaine okay honestly, nice one
@@tobiasmeiner9042 it is, 100% no question about it
That CritCrab reference.
I was just about to type this.
@@qualitymcbro8452 whoa that comment was a few seconds ago
@@warhound8496 As was that one.
I completely missed it
What reference
I wonder if it was hard for Duke to say: “I’m also not a fan of One Shot Questers.” 😁
Nah, most content creators aren't fans of ourselves. It's an artist thing...
Actually, it was super easy, barely an inconvenience.
@@phoebegilliland8897 Quoting Ryan in other videos is tight.
@@NisansaDdS Yeah yeah yeah!
Legit I had to scroll down to realize he was referring to his own channel cause I keep forgetting his channel name lol
When you questioned whether playing a ranger would get you kicked out, I felt like you looked to my soul.
I’m a first-time DM and when my sister said she was going to take a Ranger I really hopees that she was going to take Beastmaster class. 🤣
She didn’t. But she did an amazing job on building a pretty powerful Ranger
@@averagejo1626 with or without Tasha ?
@@WelvereinYT without.
haha rangers don't have souls
Yeah I play a Ranger. My character has a magic bow that gives out extra attack and extra damage
"Ok now, what if, what if..killing you is what i would do!" Is me when the DM made my teammate attack me for no reason.
Me when BBEG offered me bigger reward for betraying my group than what they promised me for my work with them:
me when someone starts murderhoboing
Loved this and I feel several of these. Gotta love that alter ego self causes explosion due to not liking himself thing though
That isnt very realistic though. I don't like myself and i never exploded.
@@teatous7444 I mean, anything is possible in d&d
@@theinnerhollow3006 fair
“I’m also not a fan of One Shot Questers.”
So you have chosen…death.
Yup, you say this and you don't get kicked out of the game but it suddenly becomes a lot more real... if you die in the game you die in real life.
What's your AC again?
As soon as that last shot of him smiling cropped up I swear it felt like the ghost of Sir Christopher Lee leaned over my shoulder specifically to whisper that in my ear xD
That's why he changed the name to One Shot Quips !
As the forever DM, it infuriates me beyond words when I look at all 3 of my players looking at their phones during a super serious conversation.
Or only one of them is paying attention.
Or when I'm working on a player's storyline, and they're the only one NOT paying attention.
Like- for 5 minutes! Can you not look at your phone!?!?
My only defense, at least when I still played in person, was that I can take better, faster notes on my phone than handwritten. So I was definitely paying attention to my DM's stories! I was also jotting EVERYTHING down because otherwise I would forget important story beats in the 2 week stint between games...
Have you talked to them? Dont complain if you dont even do anything to try to put an end to it. If you have and they still do it then theyre probably just not the best people to play D&D with
@@fallen_vague28 of course.
They all know how much it annoys me, so they usually call each other out.
Sometimes they just forget. But at the end of the day, it's no big deal as long as everyone enjoys themselves.
@@EliteSwordsMen5 Alright then, Im glad that they try to be better. Sorry if my comment sounded rude or anything, I probably shouldve worded it better haha
I'm the same as @@Jaechan13. My playgroup, which just consists of my friends, always look at me when I take out my phone for notes, and ask the DM (one of the friends) to repeat something I couldn't catch in my first jot. I get that it bogs down play a bit but it's fucking worth it when we get back after a week and even the DM forgets what we did last session. We're taking a break form the campaign right now because of work/scheduling, so I'm hoping my notes will come in very handy when we meet up again :P
"I'm not a fan of OSQ"
That killed me. Well done sir.
Killed him too. 😁
You forgot the biggest sin "Hey DM, I know its only 1 hour before we begin but I gotta pull out today just like last 4 times, leaving you and party with no time to get a backup"
I have a player who does that but we were all ok with it and don't really count on her in the first place because she has a chronic illness and wants to come but feels too shitty. So we are just happy when she does show.
My warforged chronurgy wizard followed all your tips but all it got him was a permanent ban from singing.
I guess a ban is a ban at the end of the day. Thanks for the tips anyway!
A singing warforged...isn't that Bumblebee?
@@somegoodsoup7008 No that is Blaster.
@@somegoodsoup7008 No that's a jukebox
I once played a game with a murder hobo who “knew everything about dungeons and dragons.” Constantly interrupted and was always on his phone during the game. I told him to go find a new table. Never seen him since.
I’m a Rogue, and a Ranger…
I beat a CR 8 Chain Devil, with doubled HP and Haste, in a Cage Match… at level 8.
King. Love when a class gets optimized so well.
I saw a comment about this earlier. I don't remember what video, but the comment mentioned a free cast of invisibility and a speed potion. Was that you as well?
@@ScrewBall105 That was me. But the Haste only removed the 1 chain a turn that hit, and the Invisibly wore off as soon as I cast Booming Blade.
It was also you telling the tale on Bardic Inspiration too! I thought I recognised the tale.
(Ranger hunter)/(Rogue assassin)
Surprise round + Volley + Assassinate = ending an encounter is one turn
Could have also done 'I"m a HUGE fan of Critical Role,' and he has a Jester body pillow with him. That'd be kickworthy for sure
True, my DM making Jester a core antagonist of the campaign was one of the most disappointing twists I’ve ever heard
@@freezeburn9875 I am against putting PC's from well known campaigns into my campaign in general. Everyone always has an opinion about what decisions the character would make etc. The only put them in "filler sessions" which is basically me not having prepared sufficiently for a session and thus having my party run several small errands etc or in one shots
@@freezeburn9875 To which I would respond, "Well, looks like I'm in to burn the whole world down too." Bring on the villain campaign!
I might make that a question if/when I DM a group. "Who is your favourite CR character and why?"
@@freezeburn9875 That could be a really great idea if executed correctly
the cellphone guy is very common
Look man I'm a Ranger in a campaign that my best friend is running with some of his family and I'm the only thing keeping them alive. Combat is not an issue, their ability to avoid death in other ways is.
It's actually a part of my own Ranger's character development that she has to learn that being useful to the Party doesn't always involve doing a lot of numbers to the bad guy--she's the reason they've even found a lot of those bad guys in the first place.
@@Pineapply_Queen My utility druid (and I) are trying to learn the same thing. I don't do nearly the amount of damage that my group members do, but the healing that I provide is insurmountable. And being a utility druid, I've had my fair share of usefulness outside of combat too.
Ranger is fine, as long as you're not a pre-Tasha/PHB-only Beastmaster. Even before some better subclasses came in other books, the Hunter was still functional. Just a bit underwhelming when compared to other martial classes mechanically. But still able to pull their own weight.
Pre-Tasha beastmaster was trash though. Which is why the DM in this skit was fine, until he mentioned the beastmaster subclass. Pre-Tasha beastmaster was just a subpar Ranger with deadweight shacked around its neck due. Why? Because they competed with any of your worthwhile abilities for your main action. So 90% of the time, the pet gets left in a corner somewhere doing nothing. The most famous/infamous example of this would probably be Trinket from S1 of critical role.
Tasha's moved that to the bonus action, unfucking the beastmaster action economy and simplified the stats of the pet. But even after the change, it still suffers from being a pet focused class. Which practically means it functions as another character that has to be managed and accounted for, in and out of combat.
This is fine in low-man games, but if you already have a party of 5+, a lot of DM's will sigh a bit. Necromancer and conjurer builds suffer from similar issues. It can be a headache for DM's, especially if the player isn't on top of their shit and is indecisive with what they're doing. It can very easily turn into 20+ minute rounds of combat.
I ran a oneshot this past weekend and I allowed the barbarian of the group to have a loin cloth that functioned as a portable hole and in the first encounter he trapped a demon in it so we started making the joke that he has a demon in his pants
That isn't worthy of a ban that is comedy gold.
thats not a ban worthy thing, thats a fucking legend
This is hilarious.
...did you ban them for that?
@@bezerkoid of course not
@@StreamerNation-99 Cheers, I didn't think you did but because of the video I think that's the conclusion some of us came to!
Don't forget you also have the complete other side of the spectrum
Player: If you are not exactly as good at Matt Mercrer, in both voice acting, storytelling, and even shitting like him, I will riot!
That hurts. That hurts so bad...
I had a player who told me I was being a shitty DM basically because I was putting all of the other player's as a group's needs above his by not letting him completely hijack the campaign. To him not being allowed to go on a completely different mission than the one I prepared and all the other players were doing because it suited his whims better was "railroading" also all easily predictable consequences for his actions were me "railroading" him. For example he threatened a guard who was protecting a king and y'know... got arrested for it. He the demanded via PM that I release his character from the jail, becuase it wasn;t fair that he got arrested just for "asking a question" and I was only doing it to prevent him from making the story end differentally than I intended. the question btw was "well If you won't let me through the door [where the king is] what if I threw a rock at your face with a sling"
@@angrynoodletwentyfive6463 This is common for people who frequent the subreddits and meme channels. A lot of them Unfortunately only have a vague idea of what some of these terms mean, or when/if they're negative. But they'll be quick to throw them out there when they don't get their way.
@@piranhaplantX "Railroading" is also sometimes an essential feature of a campaign, to prevent your players from going on a wild goose chase for an item or NPC that is only a mile away from them, or having to backtrack later because they never got the poem that opens the second part of the dungeon from the wizard NPC they were supposed to consult with before leaving town. Also not every single adventure in DND has an open ended conclusion (in fact I would say the majority of them don't) This player seemed to be legitimately expecting me to provided some sort of completely open word game where I could run which ever adventure he decided he wanted to go on that day. He seemed to be utterly unable to understand that as a DM i have to PREPARE an adventure before I can run it despite it being explained to him multiple times by multiple players. He would alwars respond "well maybe you could just get better at imporovising." I'm sorry?! Improvise an ENTIRE ADVENTURE on the spot?!! Also all of his "Adventure Ideas" revolved around him delving into his character's cringey edgelord pirate backstory and left the rest of the players high and dry. He was honestly at such a point of an inability to understand that other people have other needs and desires than him, that i think he would need professional help to be able to hold a conversation with somebody let alone play dnd he had been my friend in high school which is why I invited him but he had clearly had not matured like AT ALL in the 4 years since graduating.
And that's one of my biggest issues with Critical Roll. I love that it brought more attention to table top rpgs, but people suddenly have this grand idea of what the game should be when they forget that people aren't professional voice actors and have their own DM styles
Ohhh God, the part about "now to bring up my issues with the campaign in front of the whole group, instead of in private!" hit so close to home! My first dnd group post-pandemic-start ended with one of the members doing EXACTLY THAT! And making it out to be all about how we'd all wronged HER and made HER feel left out after she'd been, imho, pretty show-boaty the entire fuckin' time! I was new to the group, though I'd known the woman who invited me for a long time, and the other girl actually targetted me, my friend, and the dm specifically before flouncing when the dm tried to be as understanding as he could be in that situation. She made the entire group have an existential crisis and carried it into her OTHER campaigns and just wouldn't let it go, until I went from low-key wondering if I'd done something wrong to realizing that the woman was just being a total asshole!
Cue my social anxiety turning into "FITE ME!🤬" because I was seeing my long-term friend and nice, new friends all struggle with the aftermath, and I was SO DONE! The group didn't continue after that because of that one woman's bullshit, but we've stayed in touch, and me and long-term friend have found other groups since then, so it wasn't a TOTAL loss, but it has had actual psychological ramifications for these people long after the actual event and it STILL makes me mad!
It's not all bad, though. Me and friend are GIRLFRIENDS, now, so hey. 😃 I'll count THAT aspect as a win for me in the long run.
Unfortunately, it sounds like that girl suffered frI'm main character syndrome. Which can be somewhat forgivable for newbies, and usually goes away with a few chats and experience. But a lot of people can't shake it, either because of rampant narcissism or their previoud groups enabled it for so long they really don't understand.
If you have tried talking with them, and they refuse to listen. You have to be willing to cut them out or even walk away from that group.
0:25 There's a story about someone who had a bad stutter but could sing just fine (fun fact: singing and speaking use different parts of the brain), so when they wanted to join a D&D group, this is what they did, and everyone loved it.
Ahh yes, the daily dopamine shipment
Bringing your girlfriend who doesn't play and spending more time consoling and entertaining her than playing. ... Or insisting that your girlfriend and her non-committal sibling(s) join the campaign last minute while 3.5 was still current.
Imagine dating someone who wasn't into playing D&D.
Heresy.
this is a little specific
@@jekporkins6025 This may or may not be a personal experience 😂
3.5 will always be current. It's the best version of the game. Just my opinion, but I'm sure there are plenty of others who agree with me. Besides that though, this highly specific makes you wonder a bit...
@@nightfall89z62 I would not call it the "best version" just because the word "best" is usually interpreted to mean "inherentally better than all others" So the term "favorite version" is better to me becacuse I do not think 3.5e is inherentally better than 5e. I would instead say that 3.5e and 5e are about on par with each other in terms of quality, but each cater better to a different play preference. 3.5e is my favorite because it suits my playstyle more, but 5e is just as solid of a system.
In my campaign, there's a goblin ranger that the party kind of adopted named Kail, so the bowl clip gave me a bit of anxiety.
I like how one of them is just "Can you kick me out?"
Man, that 4th edition jab. Right in the pancreas.
"I'm also not a fan of OSQ"
Me: "That's unfortunate that you've chosen death."
"Its time for a talking crab to tell my story"
Lol great critcrab refrence
"What if we just played YuGiOh instead?"
Are you kidding? With some of the monsters THAT game has cooked up? It would be a baller DND game!
"I roll to seduce the Blue-Eyes White Dragon!"
You fail because Kaiba already did.
"I attack the moon!"
@@schwarzerritter5724 you've activated my trap card, zodiark's wrath!
Well blue eyes is female dragon
My first dnd campaign I'm currently part of, I'm playing a beastmaster ranger... that is an aarakocra with a pteranodon companion XD Next session is tomorrow and I'm loving it.
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In one campaign, the Rules Lawyer got kicked when the DM figured out he was cheating....
Bro how do you both be a Rules Lawyer AND cheat? It's like so contradictory and yet so fitting for the kind of person lmao
Ha that's fitting. I had a rules lawyer who was very tunnel-visioned about rules. He'd get annoyed if the DM ever made a house rule/homebrew to make weak character somewhat competent, even though he still had the strongest character in the game even *after* the house rules. He also was kind of a hypocrite. I played a bard who once went to listen in on a secret conversation between some NPCs. His character loudly told mine that it was rude to listen in on people's conversations, which the NPCs heard and then moved rooms so I couldn't hear. Later that session, he went and listened in on an NPCs' conversation... I liked the guy, but I hated playing with him. :/
Oddly enough, he really hated when I had my artifice infuse her rifle with Repeating Shot, and I was spot on regarding the rules :)
@@InsanityVirus oh, it's simple enough. Peoples who enjoy criticize others but consider themselfs as saints are pretty common not only in tabletop games. Russian has some prazes about it, but i am not sure if i can translate them correctly.
@@InsanityVirus Because most of the time it's a front to cover up their bullshit, especially fudging dice rolls. These are the types of people who will do anything to prove they are better than everyone else so they're always looking for a way to cheat
Player: I've made a min maxed character that will destroy your homebrew campaign that you've spent years working on.
Me: bring it it on
You've never seen offbeat outlaw... That is a death sentence
I was a beast master ranger that broke the game balance. Tasha's is beautiful.
I AM a fan of all the crazy new classes and magics that come out of Critical Role....like messing with time. Also, that fine outro music should be a form of wizard magic.
If a man wants to have time shenanigans, then you let the man have time shenanigans
The being on the phone one was actually quite prevalent in the first group I played with. It was a large group but a few people just stayed on their phone distracted until the fighting happened and didn’t pay attention until something interesting happened. I wasn’t one of those people a lot of the time but I did slip up once in a while.
Interesting little exploration of that: my first group was basically my dad's circle of friends getting together once a month or so and spending the day on socialization under the excuse of playing the game, and my brother and I started getting brought along when I was in third grade. Thing is, I was in *third grade* and we came in with zero understanding of what on Earth was supposed to be happening; we'd been asked about four questions and then the then-GM (and host) whipped up some characters for us, and we just kinda got dumped in.
Did I mention there was no roleplaying and the story was an excuse for combat, basically? And we were playing 4e?
So, obviously, the two literal children developed habits of just not paying attention until it was our turn. I remember one session where I literally read the entire time and told Dad to get my attention when it was my turn and tell me who to aim at, and just cast Magic Missile from then into eternity. This generally continued until that campaign finished and a new one started, the GM changed, we moved into a different room of the house, and I was old enough to actually be interested now. My best friend and his father had also joined, making us a staggeringly large group that only continued to grow. And this is where the key thing happened:
I tried to roleplay and actually have a character. We'd all gotten dreams from the Greek gods, and I tried to actually tell the other players about mine - they were passed out on slips of paper, everyone had a different one - and the old GM just looked at me and said, "We know. Sit down."
They never taught me the mechanics, to the point where I still don't know how to cast Magic Missile or where on the character sheet I would find that information. I spent the entire session every time quietly chatting and roleplaying with my friend, even as my brother actually managed to integrate. I left the group in late high school, at the end of a third campaign altogether run by my friend's dad, when the three young ones betrayed everyone else and sided with the big bad.
I was the first casualty, because I forgot that one of our clerics could simply say "no" to sleep spells entirely... for the entire party.
Anyways, back to the point: that decade or so of being with them left me with the habit of doing something else during the session, especially combat, when there's literally nothing for me to latch onto or interact with. However, I've since found a great tiny group (three to five players per game versus a whopping sixteen PCs by fourteen players when I left) online, where I can just quietly play minigames between turns without losing track between my turns, and which prioritizes the story and the combat is fairly incidental and/or there for the person who starts getting snippy if he doesn't get to be awesome enough.
@@ValeOfMuses Funny enough 4E was the Edition we were playing. I'm now playing D&D 5E with my older brother and my boyfriend as a Viking Bard and there is never a dull moment. I guess our group was a bit too large with seven to eight players so they wanted to do something while waiting. But... even with roleplaying and battles they were more interested in hanging out. I'm a definite roleplayer wanting to interact with everyone and just get involved with the world. I'm glad that you found a great group.
This is a perfect example of why I won't play a game with more than 6 characters as pcs. I absolutely refuse to run a larger game. 6 is big enough to be interesting and cover all bases but still small enough that everyone gets a fair turn.
Story tiime!
The only person I've ever seen kicked out of a group was from my first D&D campaign (well more specifically PF1e)
-Dude demanded to play 3rd party after DM had stated no 3rd party, all because he "wanted to play an engineer"
-Dude then got the DM to print and bind the classbook that the DM printed for him out of giving up arguing with him
-Dude then never actually bothered to read said classbook
-Only ever cast one spell, flaming sphere, including when we were on our own boat in the middle of the ocean
-Never paid attention to combat, which lead to flaming spheres being thrown on party members
-Metagamed CONSTANTLY "I should get a mechanical computer and build a full achemedes death ray on our boat at lvl 3 (which we started at) because my character is an engineer and those were real ancient technologies *pulls up Wikipedia pages*"
-Demanded that "because he's an engineer" he should get to do whatever he wants (ie: use firearms with no misfire chance and access all gunslinger abilities "because an engineer would know how to use a gun to its fullest potential", "oh my turn I build a full ballista and fire it twice at the hydra" 'you cant do that, you are lvl3 and your turn only lasts 6 seconds, you need days to harvest materials and build a ballista' "BuT I'M aN EnGiNeeR"
-Routinely would just get up without saying anything, go to the washroom and take the biggest shit and leave it without flushing (we played at the DM's brother's place, a guy in the armed forces)
-Woudlnt ask for tea, wouldn't ask for snacks. Would just get up, walk to the kitchen and start rifling through the DM's brother's cabinets until he found something he liked
Gotta say, while kicking him out absolutely made the party work WAY better together, I'll still miss my favorite conversation I've ever heard. For context, this dude is a scrawny pasty white nerd that as a 5'6' dude even I felt like I could break him like a twig. This is the conversation:
Everyone: *quietly waiting for final player to arrive and just vibing*
Everyone: ...
Him: "So how do you feel about bigger girls?"
DM: "uhh, fine I guess. Whered this come from?"
Him: "Just thinking. Because I really like them"
Player 1: "cool, glad you know your type"
Him: "No, I don't think you understand what I mean. Where other people stop, I START."
Everyone: *wondering what the hell is going on but so happy to have witnessed this*
All I wanna be is someone who gets to see a giant woman
Metagaming too frequently will always get a person kicked from my groups, so will arguing with me(I'm always dm) especially when the argument is about the way I'm running the game or how people in my homebrew world interact and such(I always homebrew my whole world setting and campaign story arcs).
Dude probably thinks anyone bigger than a size 10 is a 'big girl' lol
"Dare you enter my magical realm?"
Great advice, I can finally escape my group.
The face at the end is the face of every DM at the end of Every Session. Pain.
1:57 how to get into an actual knock down drag out fist fight in D&D.
I feel personally called out for the thunderous fart.
"I'm also not a fan of One Shot Questers."
it was on this day violence was selected as the games difficulty setting.
The critcrab reference was incredible
As someone who loves ranger, I appreciate he specified the beast master.
I don't understand how any character choice would get someone kicked out of the game. Limiting character choices limits creativity. But idk, maybe it's a 5e thing.
@@nightfall89z62 Well thing is is that while Ranger’s other subclasses are good or even broken (Gloomstalker), Beastmaster is just universally the worst subclass in the game.
@@MrZalgo-ml2iw oh. Well it's not that bad a PRC in 3.5e.
I have a friend who wanted to play a undead plague type campaign, the whole party played Clerical Monks
The inquisition party
Reason we did this was because monks (at level 10 in Monk) become immune to diseases, including plagues. And Clerics (when at least level 8 in Cleric) have Turn Undead and Destroy Undead. They also can have Divine Intervention (at level 10 Cleric)
@@devynwyma3153 10 levels in monk seems like an awfully big investment for something you can cure with a second lvl cleric spell
@@codebracker while yes it’s true, monks can do it passively, therefore allowing you to take on a clerical spell that is needed more for the undead than the plague
"I'm going to complain about your campaign in front of everyone instead of in private"
Bro that hit so home you basically invaded my house with that truth. The amount of times a player would do this without realizing the spotlight on me, as a DM...
Even "complaining" in private can be rude. I mean If you are not having fun or have another issue you need to tell the DM that you are not having fun, explain why you are not having fun, and come up with a way for you to have fun. but the term "complaining about the campaign" to me sounds more like you are just bitching about stuff you don't like in a non-productive way. Also there are definitely some cases where when you are not having fun it is because of you and not the DM. In order to determine if the reason for your lack of enjoyment is self borne you need to think of what it would take for you to have fun. Is that something that the DM can reasonably provide without signifigantly impacting the enjoyment of other players? if not you are being unreasonable in your expectations from them and they either are not the right DM for you, or you are not allowing yourself to enjoy the game by being to up tight about your expectations.
“It’s time for a talking crab to tell my story” I understood that reference
You know all those NPCs the party adores?
Roll to make a human centipede out of them
You should add "I only play homebrew classes" to the list
I need to make sure none of my friends ever finds out that you are supposed to bring snacks when you are late... My wallet couldn't handle paying up all those years of being late.
I mean realistically everyone should bring a snack to share, but yeah if you're late and you bring snacks people forgive your tardiness more easily...
Yup
I have to ask, how do you avoid minmaxing, without making the character bad at what they are supposed to do class-wise?
Either you are very sad or you don't really know what minmaxing is or the proportion it may take
Picking the stats and feats that logically make sense for your character isn't going to break the game lol. There is a big difference between optimizing and min maxing.
@@iammarokk Would you then please be so kind to explain the difference?
I just find something stupid and make it as strong as it can go I may suck at other things but 8-32 velociraptors that heal every turn have magical attacks have bonus health and all have advantage circle of the Shepard really is fun and I beg to god that the enemy doesn't know dispel magic becuaee if they do I'm entirely countered so ide say make something funny that is ridiculously strong but give your dm a way to make your dumb idea backfire hard it'll be fun arms race of ideas doesn't work with every group though but everyone was laughing there ass off at my table when that poor bear was ripped to shreds in one turn
@@fernandoaugustofernandesar7621 well my GM said using a warhorse for combat movement is "hardcore gamebreaking min-maxing" so thats probly why this dude asked the question as some GM's may think that any amount of thinking instead of "I attack" and rolling dice is min-maxing
Just preparing for my first session. I'm learning a lot from this channel
I felt that minmaxer one. I've got one at my table that always pumps out way more damage than anyone else at the table to the point I have to balance my encounters specifically around the characters he makes.
Give them specific check that can counter them or just talk to them about it
@@alexcote9243 I don't actually want to hamper anyone's ability to make the character they want. Besides if I really need to I have ways of countering just about any character.
@@azrik6084 Yes but, as someone who has that character in their current group it really hampers the fun for everyone else. We mostly wonder why the rest of us bother turning up
Like I said. If the need arises I have ways of shutting this character down. Giving the other players their time to shine. After the group gets a few levels under their belt the group tends to build a reputation. This can cause my npc's to focus all their ire on the biggest threat in the party i.e. the min-maxer. Usually causing them to be the focus of all the cc effects.
@@azrik6084 the thing I do with Min maxers is I explain that they built a really strong character and that it is fine, but that the other players do not enjoy min-maxing their own characters and that the character the min-maxer built is not balanced with the rest of the party and it makes the game less fun for the other players when your character kills all of the enemies and they barely get a hit in. If you want to continue playing the character this way I will have to make everyone elses character X levels higher than yours so that they can be more on your character's level and feel like they are actually an important part of the encounter. I call this concept "meta-balancing" where you purposefully give specific players some sort of boon to make sure that they are on level with other players. Taking away from the stronger players is a last resort, and you always explain to the players who are not getting the boon Why the boon is needed for the Health of the game. If the Min-Maxer is not okay with the other players being brought up to his level after you explain why you are doing it, there are 2 possibiliities as to why, the first is that they are not min maxing because they just enjoy making characters that are super strong, they are actively trying to be "the strongest" in the group which is a problem. the other is they are upset because he feels like he "earned" his strong character but everyone else just got a "hand out" in this case remind them that the point of dnd is for everyone at the table to have fun and feel like they are an equal member of the team and that it is impossible if his character is so much stronger than everyone elses.
You know what I want? A CritCrab vs. One Shot Questers video
What if kicking your character out of the party mid dungeon is just what my character would do?
I tell the NPC that "One shot Questers isn't a good channel."
Roll for deception at a disadvantage.
I mean, a gnome or halfling beastmaster ranger with a pterodactyl can fly by level 3. But, yeah in most situations, beastmasters suck.
I mean the character may suck generally, but I pride myself on the fact that I am generally able to make a good and useful character out of every idea. And I don't see how a character concept should ever get someone kicked out of a group. If the player enjoys playing a beastmaster and still contributes to the game play it shouldn't be a problem that they suck.
Just want to say I love how cute the little outdo dice is.
I'm fine with not liking Critical Role, as long as they like Dimension 20
"Hey can you kick me out of the group?"
Caught me so off guard XD
Lol you should do one "what people think you'll get kicked out for" and add things like "I got a confession, I based my Bard on Danny from Game Grumps"
That last one was the most funny.
My fellow player is very lucky we're playing online, bc otherwise I'd've fucking decked him for the many times he pulled some dumb shit that I, as the only player/character with some sense of survival, have to rescue him from
And every time we are apart, he somehow manages to get hurt/almost die/get in trouble with the law/steps into a ridiculously obvious trap.
Every. SINGLE. Time.
I love the "and now it let a talking crab tell my story...." critcrab is awesome!
To be honest if you were being kicked out of a group for suggesting playing 4E then it's probably a blessing in disguise.
Player: I am not a fan of one shot questers
DM: then you have chosen death
Lol
1:23 is like my current greatest fear, I've spent hundreds of hours fleshing out a giant homebrew campaign and if my players do this, I swear to the overdieites above... I will go into a barbaric rage.
Hot take: 4th edition isn't even that bad [and dare I say it, actually can be fun] but has an unfair reputation due to 3.5 players finding it jarring and it being reheheeeeally poorly marketed.
It's a small unit tactics game more than a role playing game, honestly, and if you treat it like that it sure can be fun.
@@POTUSJimmyCarter I've only ever been run through like two hours of gameplay and I felt like I was playing the jankiest Final Fantasy Tactics board game ever... (Just my opinion on 4th, not that I'll ever really admit it exists now)
I've played 4e. The thing I didn't like about it was that it forces you to play a single concept with each character. Basically it gives each clas two or three ways to play and if you try and mix them or choose a different path your character is ineffective. If it didn't do that then yes it would be fun. For me, it was simply too limiting. From what I understand of 5th edition, it doesn't limit you, but instead it makes it so every character can do the same thing. Making uniqueness and individuality obsolete. Those are my reasons for not liking the new editions. But that's just my opinion.
Same. I never really understood the hate for 4e, though it helps that it was also the first TtRPG system I was taught. It also helps that I joined well after they updated the math in the monster manuals so that rather than enemies being huge sacks of HP that did low damage, they had significantly less HP but did much higher damage.
@@nightfall89z62 About 5e, is this something you have been told or your own experience? Because as a former 3rd edition player, I do not have any of those thoughts about 5th edition. Every character most definitely does not do the same thing.
Love the Crit Crab reference
I have been out of internet for a 4 weeks and atleast I have alot of one shot questers videos to watch
Alternatively:
"I'm not a fan of Critical Role."
"That's fine, they're not everyone's cup of tea. I am thankful for them for bringing more attention to the game though."
"That's what makes them so harmful to the game"
The ol' popular = bad
Found the gate keeper guys and gals.
You also have the other end of the spectrum
Player: If you are not exactly as good at Matt Mercrer, in both voice acting, storytelling, and even shitting like him, I will riot!
I mean, where's the lie? The Mercer Effect is so named for a reason. Popularity does not mean "good".
It's a give and take.
The bigger anything is the more watered down and "decorative" it becomes.
This occurs because, in appealing to a mass market, you have to be generally palatable to a wide range of tastes over targeting specific tastes well.
Similarly, the wider the audience of something, the less people are really into what differentiates it from alternatives, and the more it becomes an accessory more than a genuine interest. People become into that thing less because they are actually into it and more because it's the thing to be into, and in not being genuinely into the thing, they water down the community as well.
Of course, this forms a shitty cycle: things that are unique and interesting become popular on those strengths, and in becoming popular they lose what makes them unique and interesting, both of themselves, and of the communities around them, which leads to people reacting by creating new niche things and building new communities.
Of course, being bitter at the "mainstream" doesn't really help, and there likely is no solution, because the problem is that we are human, and humans are unfit to be anything more than a bunch of tribalistic apes.
Never been this early!
(Never played rogue, hate 4e, never brought food, have done the bard thing [but can actually sing], never done the crab, never asked to get kicked out, do space out a lot, never used player justification, do talk in front of the group, built good beastmasters, I min max wayyy to much, never done *that*, and I LOVE your channel!)
Are there any humans left that don’t watch one shot questers 24/7?
Those not subscribed to them or who don’t play DND? Also me, because I don’t watch them 24/7
I un ironically have no idea who that is...
@@sithis36 it's literally this channel...
@@VitaeLibra lol
Player: I don't like one shot questers
Me: so you have chosen death.
See, you left out having crippling depression and getting upset about the dm's boyfriend being a power gamer and stealing the spotlight the whole campaign.
“My character’s alignment is evil.”
I'm early I know
1:10 that hurts, actually im still playing Beastmaster Ranger (No matter the "uselessness") I love exploring together with a trusty snake as a Yuan-Ti Abomination :D
Less funny (but sadly true) alternate way the ending joke could have gone:
"I don't really like Critical Roll."
" *gasp* That's fine, it's not everyone's cup of tea. Though I do appreciate them for bringing more awareness to D&D."
"Oh no, I hate them for that. We need to gatekeep tabletop gaming from normies who will ruin it and Critical Roll is just encouraging them to come in and make it worse for us true fans."
"...Well I know where we can start amending that."
*throws him out of the room*
Some degree of gatekeeping is why the D&D community has been flooded with Political Bullshit[don't care the side] who are now Gatekeeping those of us who don't want to engage in said political bullshit. It's turned what used to be a form of escapist entertainment into a Political Minefield[again don't care what Side they're both shit].
The way this was written makes me think maybe you're the problem.
@@seigeengineIn what way could he be? Gatekeeping is toxic and ruins the fun of a collaborative group activity. As per the rules of DnD, there is only one rule have fun.
There's nothing wrong with playing the game nontraditionally if everyone at the table agrees. Or even teaching someone how to play.
But when you make an ass of yourself and behave abusively YOU'RE the problem and should leave.
And it seems you just don't like hearing that. Like you need to project and blame the group for yourself getting ejected because you chose to be a prick instead.
@@lordkameguru7851 I wrote that between about 1.5 and 2 years ago. It's a bit of an ask for me to remember exactly what I meant in an indirect comment, though, if I had to wager a guess, it would be about this being a hypothetical stewing in their head suggesting something screwy going on.
But the fact you twisted it into your little fantasy story where you got to attack a stranger with wild personal attacks pretty clearly shows you're not only exactly what you're criticizing, but are exactly the problem.
@seigeengine 🤣
Holy shit the audacity. You really are just out here with negative self awareness right now.
You attacked someone personally for NO reason. Got called out in a reasonable manner that suggests you are likely the very kind of problem player being criticised in the hypothetical due to your offense taken at it. And now you are doubling down that the original poster must be mentally unwell (a personal attack). Further of note is that in your defensiveness you only highlighted your own hypocrisy through projections.
You complain about personally attacking a stranger. This whole thing started with YOU doing exactly that. You insinuate that it must be stewing in their head despite us being in the comment section of a very relevant video which would reasonably spark these thoughts and discussion. This is done in a dismissive manner and used to paint OP as unwell. That is CLASSIC literally TEXTBOOK abuser tactics.
You try to paint me as making a wild fantasy of you. No. I'm being reactionary. Simply observing your clear behaviour and pointing it out. You attacked a stranger for a hypothetical on a relevant video that did not mention or reffer to you. That's pretty often done by people who know they're abusive but don't want to admit it. That's a pretty clear defensiveness. There's no fantasy in observing and identifying the general patterns of human behaviour.
You try to claim I'm what I hate at the end, which almost sounds so 🔥. That is until you remember I've not acted as a gatekeeper... hmmm.
And you say it's a bit of an ask for you to remember your headspace? I'm sorry but WHO asked?! Cause it sure as shit wasn't me. I didn't ask you *anything*. I also didn't notice or care about the date. Especially because it seems time hasn't lent you any personally growth. But again that requires self awareness don't it?
Go seek therapy. That's not a joke or an insult. You seem like someone who could genuinely benefit from it and I'm worried for the people in your personal life who have to deal with your behaviour on a deeper and more consistent basis.
0:43 ... I feel attacked... but I've been in campaigns that, while they didn't lack in anything interesting (there was a lot) it ended up with most of it happening before I even acted in the turn order... also I need to keep busy or else I'll just end up blacking out due to inactivity.
Lol...
Gotta say, i make a point of trying to align characters to mess with but not destroy other pcs but you can't fix stupid i guess, and some "murdering you is what my character would do" situations i respect.
There was one campaign where i made a point of explaining i was going to paladin and there was one guy who joined late who just would not respect that even a little, and it got to the point where either i needed to be a very bad Paladin and break the character entirely or smite him. He got all uppity about me asking him several times to not do that and i finally just dropped the campaign because it was either that or murder his ass.
Different campaign, but when i did eventually do a 3rd act turn to villainy because of shenanigans power plays i was totally cool with that character getting murderized. It was irritating, but fair.
DnD can bring out the worst in people sometimes. Self awareness, morals and self control suddenly goes out the window and they become their inner anti-social goblins.
I can promise that the singing in 00:30 stopped earlier than espected because you couldnt control your laugh, because im wheezing rn xD
Fun Fact: One Shot Questers, or OSQ, can also be Obscure Sports Quarterly.
I hope you know that your videos are a constant source of entertainment for the D&D group I'm in on our Discord server.
I love that one of these is just “Hey, can you kick me out of the group?”. Like, can’t argue with that one!
0:33
"Henry Crabgrass, at your service."
That last line: HERESY!
2:01 Skip the Intro to what we all are really here for
Dude! Even my wife is a fan of One Shot Questers! She was on the other side of the house and came to the call of the singing bard.
I once watched a campaign called shattered crowns where the bard had to sing whenever he was shouting or just speaking loudly in general
Loved the critcrab reference
A taking crab, what is this? A crossover episode
0:27 depending on how long the session is that may very well kill the player so no need to kick him out
Funny I should try some of these
How to get kicked out of a group:
"So I found this homebrew class on D&Dwiki"
0:32 I love that reference lol
Talking crab, you say? Oh CritCrab