so duvalie was fighting the SSS before they she and mcburn fought class VII during the civil war. they even noted that duvalie was not on her best when they fought her. its a nice thing falcom connected the events with CS 2.
Towa and Juna are nice cameos to add a bit of continuity. Also having a portrait for Gideon there should help new players understand the order of events better. When I was playing Cold Steel and they were like "Gideon died off-screen in Crossbell" I was like uh what really? Didn't immediately make the connection he was supposed to be this terrorist leader.
Now that you mention it, I just made that connection myself. The part about Gideon dying off camera in CS1, but being able to witness his demise in Azure. Makes sense, since the Crossbell arc overlaps with Cold Steel 1+2.
@@kylemauhl7346 True, tho gotta admit it really weirded me off the first time, i started trail with CS1, so having Gideon, who was at that time the "heavy" in the ILF having the most run-in with our character dying off-screen was really confusing, it's only much later i understood
@@guifire9747 I currently playing CS1 and just done doing the Fortress Quest. I came here to refresh my mind about Gideon because I forgot almost all the characters and story in Trail of Azure (I played the PSP version).
@@gazzgaspay4841 In the original Azure Gideon was just a random terrorist leader since he wasn't introduced (same for Juna, her family and Towa) so there was no way to recognize him at all in that case, really love how it played out now that i played the entire series tho, it's really cool how CS and Zero/Azure happen at the same time so characters can go from one to another ( like Duvalie)
When I played through CS for the first time after finishing Azure (found an old copy of the Geofront patch), it was wild to see that the nameless terrorist leader that Red Scorpion executed was actually, like... A human being, with a face and a name. It kinda makes you feel bad for him.
If I remember correctly, after this beating Duvalie got in Stargazer tower, she went to Erebonia and got beating from Class VII during... "Albarea event"?
yup. CS2 and Azure events happen at the same time, after all. If you inspect duvalie while fighting her in CS2, it even mentions that she's worn out ( because she just fought the SSS )
@@hongluong3427 She's a knight of the Stahlritter, that's how she trains. Besides, I'm sure Ennea healed her up after the fight. Arianrhod isn't a slave driver, she treats those girls like her daughters, just as the Lance Maiden herself treated the Eisenritter like her family.
"Class 4 is at Garrelia" Incredible, Loggins and Hibele will crush the ILF with ease and Alan will finally show off (as he should), guess Class 7 is just chilling at the academy (LOL)
Gideon seems like a nasty piece of work when he first shows up, but the brutality of his death, combined with the context provided by the revelations later in the Sen arc, paint him as an intelligent man who was driven to extreme action by forces he could not control A tragic villain, like Trails so often gives us
My question still is what’s the whole deal with Rean and Osborne cause he clearly glanced at Rean the most in trails of coldsteel during the slow down part
Possibly but it could be the other way around, Towa is from the student council so she knows each Class from I to VII, maybe they also visited for the incident
@@kraidy117 Oh, i just thought it was weird enough for IV to be a typo instead of VI, thanks for clarifying. Like the zero port, we'll prolly get a patch in a week or so.
Well, technically they used and had help from people who did the fan translations for Zero and Azure when it came to these, so uh...technically it's not all them.
duude, I was SO close to actually doing that. You have no clue. The thing is, the fanbase just isn't that big :/ It's ( unfortunately ) still a pretty niche game. And it'd also require me to replay all the games for content
People bitching about the translation errors, need to realize that the Crossbell games came out BEFORE the Erebonia games. So Towa saying Class IV instead of Class VII is not a big deal.
Wait how is Towa there? Last time I checked, timeline wise Azure takes place at the same time Cold Steel 2 right? Shouldn't she be driving the Couragous? Or am I wrong?
Not quite. The conference Towa's attending happened concurrently with the ILF's attack on Garrelia Fortress in CS1. It might be an error in this vid when Towa mentions which class is at the fortress, because I think she's supposed to mean it's Class VII.
In Cold Steel 1's Chapter 5, Towa mentions that she was hand picked to join the entourage to the West Zemuria Trade Conference. Cold Steel 1 ends at the same time as Azure Chapter 4 and the entirety of Cold Steel 2 takes place during the Final Chapter of Azure.
Nah, to put it in even better perspective Zero’s Finale happens in May, right around the time Class 7 is at Bareahard I believe in Chapter 2 of CS1 (I believe Millium talks about Lechter returning in her first scene at the end of the chapter). This is way way waaaaaaay before Cold Steel 2 (which all takes place over the span of one month). The proper ending of Zero happens one month after that, during the Nord chapter of CS1. And then Azure begins in the off period between chapter 4 and 5 of CS1. Basically, most of Azure actually happens during the second half of CS1. After all, CS1 ends with Garrelia Fortress going boom.
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so duvalie was fighting the SSS before they she and mcburn fought class VII during the civil war. they even noted that duvalie was not on her best when they fought her. its a nice thing falcom connected the events with CS 2.
Towa and Juna are nice cameos to add a bit of continuity. Also having a portrait for Gideon there should help new players understand the order of events better. When I was playing Cold Steel and they were like "Gideon died off-screen in Crossbell" I was like uh what really? Didn't immediately make the connection he was supposed to be this terrorist leader.
Also nice they gave Duvalie a portrait. She used to be a generic faceless enemy NPC.
Now that you mention it, I just made that connection myself. The part about Gideon dying off camera in CS1, but being able to witness his demise in Azure. Makes sense, since the Crossbell arc overlaps with Cold Steel 1+2.
@@kylemauhl7346 True, tho gotta admit it really weirded me off the first time, i started trail with CS1, so having Gideon, who was at that time the "heavy" in the ILF having the most run-in with our character dying off-screen was really confusing, it's only much later i understood
@@guifire9747 I currently playing CS1 and just done doing the Fortress Quest. I came here to refresh my mind about Gideon because I forgot almost all the characters and story in Trail of Azure (I played the PSP version).
@@gazzgaspay4841 In the original Azure Gideon was just a random terrorist leader since he wasn't introduced (same for Juna, her family and Towa) so there was no way to recognize him at all in that case, really love how it played out now that i played the entire series tho, it's really cool how CS and Zero/Azure happen at the same time so characters can go from one to another ( like Duvalie)
Juna has much more dialogue than what you have here. Check in with her when days change or after big events happen.
Also Ken and Nana appear as well. I first found them in Sunday School in Chapter 1.
@@thunderbolts9 link pls thunderbolts9-sama
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Must protect Towa
When I played through CS for the first time after finishing Azure (found an old copy of the Geofront patch), it was wild to see that the nameless terrorist leader that Red Scorpion executed was actually, like... A human being, with a face and a name.
It kinda makes you feel bad for him.
This is interesting. I found Towa but didn't realise Juna was there aswell
Nice to finally see these translated
2:56 thats a typo right, should be class VII
I don't know what you mean. I think that time Alan, Linde and Vivi drove back all the terrorists from Garrelia was amazing
@@goetiawasright6793😂😂😂
I've played azure after 20 hours of cold steel and I recognized Gideon even with his helmet. Imagine, if only he still had that flute with him.
“Our allies are legion!” Should that not be enforcers?
I mean, maybe they were thinking of the tracks title on the SC OST...?
It's just a little weird seeing Towa in the Zero/Azure 2d Style.
Classic Angelica, Flirting with Towa!
If I remember correctly, after this beating Duvalie got in Stargazer tower, she went to Erebonia and got beating from Class VII during... "Albarea event"?
yup. CS2 and Azure events happen at the same time, after all. If you inspect duvalie while fighting her in CS2, it even mentions that she's worn out ( because she just fought the SSS )
I kinda feel sorry for Duvalie, being sent all over the continent, picking fights with little or no time to rest
@@hongluong3427 And lost in almost all of them
@@choi-r7108 yes Well it may be a different story if she had the ines and ennea with her.
Plus her work ethics is definitely top notch
@@hongluong3427 She's a knight of the Stahlritter, that's how she trains. Besides, I'm sure Ennea healed her up after the fight. Arianrhod isn't a slave driver, she treats those girls like her daughters, just as the Lance Maiden herself treated the Eisenritter like her family.
"Class 4 is at Garrelia" Incredible, Loggins and Hibele will crush the ILF with ease and Alan will finally show off (as he should), guess Class 7 is just chilling at the academy (LOL)
Gideon seems like a nasty piece of work when he first shows up, but the brutality of his death, combined with the context provided by the revelations later in the Sen arc, paint him as an intelligent man who was driven to extreme action by forces he could not control
A tragic villain, like Trails so often gives us
I always thought Duvalie was "adorable." 😄
Me too, particularly when she gets pouty,
She is simp
that different from original azure on psp and evo version on vita, but no animated talk, extra cg and quest like evo version
My question still is what’s the whole deal with Rean and Osborne cause he clearly glanced at Rean the most in trails of coldsteel during the slow down part
If you haven't yet. Play the second cold steel game it explains why later.
Already a typo. They messed up class VII of all things.......
Possibly but it could be the other way around, Towa is from the student council so she knows each Class from I to VII, maybe they also visited for the incident
@@kentstopme she literally says VII in the JP text, don't defend this lazy typo
@@kraidy117 Oh, i just thought it was weird enough for IV to be a typo instead of VI, thanks for clarifying. Like the zero port, we'll prolly get a patch in a week or so.
@mushy either they put a smaller team to work on it and they were working on hajimari or they didnt do a quality assurance check lmao.
@mushy I'm guessing that you worked on the fan patch?
I like how towa said Class IV instead of VII. Nice typo falcom XD
Well, technically they used and had help from people who did the fan translations for Zero and Azure when it came to these, so uh...technically it's not all them.
Duvaile was already there in the original release, did theh change her portrait?
Yeah and gideon didnt had a actual portrait as well.
@@yupzVGM THANK YOU YUPZ SAMA!
Yeah, they just created a portrait to reflect her Cold Steel one.
Good work
Would love to see ya upload more trails content
I've become a HUGE trails fan in the past half year. Don't worry, I'll cover all upcoming Trails games :)
@@FazFaz happy to hear that ^^
Hoping you create a channel dedicated to the series just like you did with persona XD
duude, I was SO close to actually doing that. You have no clue.
The thing is, the fanbase just isn't that big :/ It's ( unfortunately ) still a pretty niche game.
And it'd also require me to replay all the games for content
@@FazFaz Yeah plus tbh I'll take a lot of work from your side in managing three channels alone so it's kinda understandable
yup :/
my mind was blown when I played Cold Steel 1-3 after this. Were these always here or were they added after CS?
They were added in after the fact in the Kai remasters to better fit narrative elements related to those characters.
Duvalie and Gideon were always there, they just got portraits. Towa and Juna are entirely new.
I was wondering why Juna weapon looks so similar to Lloyd
Duvalie in CS 4 is adorable 😊.
so basicly, just 2 additions, everything else seem to be the same.
People bitching about the translation errors, need to realize that the Crossbell games came out BEFORE the Erebonia games. So Towa saying Class IV instead of Class VII is not a big deal.
well, yes. But these scenes were added in the KAI version, which came out in 2020. AFTER the Erebonia games
These scenes were added after all (?) the Cold Steel games were out. There is a reason to bitch about it.
Honestly!!! Even SSS doesnt take her seriously like Cold Steel cast, ouch.
Are these in the kai based PS4 version too or just PC/switch?
Yes, all platforms
Wait how is Towa there? Last time I checked, timeline wise Azure takes place at the same time Cold Steel 2 right? Shouldn't she be driving the Couragous? Or am I wrong?
Not quite. The conference Towa's attending happened concurrently with the ILF's attack on Garrelia Fortress in CS1. It might be an error in this vid when Towa mentions which class is at the fortress, because I think she's supposed to mean it's Class VII.
@@zetazetaman Oh ok gotcha.
@@zetazetaman The infamous NISA translation again then?
In Cold Steel 1's Chapter 5, Towa mentions that she was hand picked to join the entourage to the West Zemuria Trade Conference. Cold Steel 1 ends at the same time as Azure Chapter 4 and the entirety of Cold Steel 2 takes place during the Final Chapter of Azure.
Nah, to put it in even better perspective Zero’s Finale happens in May, right around the time Class 7 is at Bareahard I believe in Chapter 2 of CS1 (I believe Millium talks about Lechter returning in her first scene at the end of the chapter). This is way way waaaaaaay before Cold Steel 2 (which all takes place over the span of one month). The proper ending of Zero happens one month after that, during the Nord chapter of CS1. And then Azure begins in the off period between chapter 4 and 5 of CS1.
Basically, most of Azure actually happens during the second half of CS1. After all, CS1 ends with Garrelia Fortress going boom.
So we can't find them in original psp version?
Yo sorry to be a pain but which chapters are the scenes in?
Wait this isnt evo version? I can remember that there we had more Juna events i think
Evo was just a Vita upgrade. Kai was released after the first three CS games so they had knowledge that these character, you know, existed.
Why's it Class 4 not 7 2:58
mistake on localization part, its fixed already
Something isn't right. They didn't d Juna right. She isn't being obnoxious and accusing everyone of sexual harassment every 10 seconds.
its because she really dislike erebonia for taking away her country independence, she dos get mellowed out a bit as time go on.
What a bizarre image of Juna you have.
However those events are still worthless since they don't give out any items or anything useful BATTLE wise.
I mean if you consider cool NPC callbacks in a series known for good NPCs worthless then you do you, but I think they're pretty neat
Found a non Trails player
...I mean, why would they? it's background NPC dialogue.
if anything other than gameplay is worthless to you go play tetris.
Non trails players be like
bwhahaha