R C Sproul is absolutely right! God is SOVEREIGN! HIS ways are not our ways, and HIS thoughts are NOT our thoughts! I'm ecstatic in my spiritual inner man that God chose me! Those whom the Lord has not elected are not even aware of this, for they are lost and walking in darkness! Thank You, my dear Lord and Savior! Thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven! Thank You for your grace and mercy!
And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. Revelation 22 17 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life. John 5 39 and 40 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out. And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. John 12 31 and 32 These verses fly in the face of the Calvinists. Jesus said any who will may come, John 3:16…for GOD so loved the WORLD. Yes, God draws us, but we can choose to accept or reject. Even Moses said to Israel “I set before you life and death, blessing and curses” he told them to CHOOSE. Joshua said something similar. Clearly God has given us a free will. I also I believe God sovereign.
@@MilquetoastQT Yeah, yeah. The typical scriptures calvinists and reformers always twist into their own man made ideas coming out of the 1689 London Baptist and Westminister Confessions that are wrong and lies about how and who gets saved. Believe a lie if you want to. This crap came from Disgustin' Agustine.
What happens when an irresistible force meets an immovable object? Both cannot exist. Either the force can be resisted or the object can be moved. God is sovereign or he is not God. If God is not in control the world is a profoundly terrifying place.
He will save all who call upon him after they have internalised Christ's instruction with engagement of their will.. Sovereign lord wants everybody to call upon him to be saved.
If God is sovereign in the way Sproul and all Calvinist believe, then its impossible to actually sin. Because if God predetermined all things and we cant go against his sovereign will, then we can do nothing but be obedient to his will. Therefore sin does not exist for Sproul. We are all simply being perfectly obedient to the will of God. And for calvinist God will send his perfectly obedient creatures to hell because doing so "brings him glory." Im thankful the one true God is nothing like that.
God doesn't decide who goes where. Neither does Lucifer. When we enter the spirit world, we ourselves decide because only then do we know if our lives were centered on God and love, or not. The more we sinned, the further away from heaven we go.
“The more we sinned, the further away from heaven we go” where is that in the Bible. We are all born into this world spiritually dead to God. Can’t get any further from heaven than that. There is nothing in you or me that would ever cause us to turn to Him. If Christ does not intervene we all go to hell. Once again read your Bible.
At one point I enjoyed the whole RC Sproul, John MacArthur scene... I thought they were really smart and enjoyed the "deep" theology. Debating the letters of T.U.L.I.P for hours. Now it all sounds like, "blah, blah, blah."
I would never serve a God who’s picking and choosing who to save. I am beyond sick and tired of people twisting the Word of God. Jesus died for everyone and wants everyone to be saved. Unfortunately, not everyone believes. God chose those He knew would believe. This ungodly teaching is going to cost a lot of people to lose their souls.
...they that have *DONE GOOD go unto the resurrection of LIFE - John 5:29 ...they that have *DONE EVIL go unto the resurrection of DAMNATION - John 5:29 GOOD: Titus 1:16; Strong's #g0018 ἀγαθός; pleasant, AGREEABLE (to truth) EVIL: Prov 8:13; Strong's #h7451. רַע ra‘; bad, DISAGREEABLE (liars)
"The counsel of His own Will." Or, "Himself". He uses His own self in predestining. What is His counsel? "Who hath known the mind of the Lord? Or who hath been His counsellor?" The elect are a mystery only known by God and the elect. And the only thing we know about the elect is that every Jew is elect (Romans 11:26). Every Gentile, I think not. (So, yes, Judas is in Heaven). I wish God was a universalist but Scripture does not say this. ("Free will" is heresy. Romans chapters 8 and 9).
RC is more about academics than Christianity. He seems to base his teachings on philosophy than Christianity. He preaches knowledge instead of Jesus Christ crucified.
Wow, this was some seriously screwed up twisting of clear bible doctrine. God: "Trust in the Lord with all of your heart..." God: just kidding, you can't. Now I'm gonna send you to Hell, and it's your fault.
Then who does -- the creature? Not much of a god you have in your mind. Such it is without becoming a new creature/new man which only the Sovereign God can birth. You might want to start shuddering.
Dead men make no such decisions. And all are dead in sin and remain dead unless by the will of God Almighty He births them anew making them partakers of the divine nature. No need to attach any man's name to these truths clearly established in the Bible.
@@themagicalmarvelousmonkeym7721 You are teaching the false doctrine that God chooses who goes to heaven. Calvin's T.U.L.I.P. is false doctrine. ... Every person can choose for themselves.
@@lewis7315 How could a spiritually dead person choose to believe in God if it weren't for God taking the initiative to save them? "None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one." Romans 3:10-12
@@ellenmcnerney1031 you are taking this out of context as all calvinists do. Paul makes it absolutely clear that everyone has a free will choice. Romans ten says everyone who confesses and believes will be saved. Over and over again God makes it clear that the offer is open to everyone. both the Eunic and the Phillippian jailor and his family made a free will choice, as did everyone Paul talked to who got saved. "by grace through faith" That is also what Martin Luthor taught as well. you strain a knat and swollow a camel in an effort to refuse the truth. Basically lots of Calvinists go to hellfire because they have head knowledge about God, but in pride refuse to accept Jesus shed blood to forgive their sins...
Listen,are you pilitician or Christian? Dont try to confuse the people,we,as a christian we defend the Bible,in other words,,GOD'S WORD,AND DONT TRY TO SAY THAT ISRAEL IS THE CHOSEN PEOOLE,THAT WAS IN THE ALL TESTAMENT. WHEN JESUS DIED ON THE CROSS,FROM THAT MOMENT TILL NOW 2024 ,WE ARE THE TRUE GOD'S PEOPLE ALL WHO COMES TO JESUS WE ARE SON OF GOD.PAUL SAYS: YOU ARE THE TRUE JEW PEOPLE WHO ACEPT JESUS CHRIST IN THE HEART,BECAUSE JEW IS THE HEART WHO ACEPTED JESUS,NO IN THE FLESH BUT IN THE HEART.,SO,DONT COME UP WITH THAT NARRATIVE THE ISRAEL IS THE CHOSEN PEOPLE. GOD SPOKE TO ABRAHAM AND TOLD HIM: WITH YOU I WILL MAKE MY PACT,HE DID NOT SAY TO YOU AND THE BUNCH OF YOUR DECENDENT.
R C Sproul is absolutely right! God is SOVEREIGN! HIS ways are not our ways, and HIS thoughts are NOT our thoughts! I'm ecstatic in my spiritual inner man that God chose me! Those whom the Lord has not elected are not even aware of this, for they are lost and walking in darkness! Thank You, my dear Lord and Savior! Thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven! Thank You for your grace and mercy!
@@jayonnaj18 RC was dead wrong about predestination. And that’s a fact.
And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
Revelation 22 17
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
John 5 39 and 40
Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out. And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
John 12 31 and 32
These verses fly in the face of the Calvinists. Jesus said any who will may come, John 3:16…for GOD so loved the WORLD. Yes, God draws us, but we can choose to accept or reject. Even Moses said to Israel “I set before you life and death, blessing and curses” he told them to CHOOSE. Joshua said something similar. Clearly God has given us a free will. I also I believe God sovereign.
Amen!
The very faith to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ is an unspeakable gift of God. Not everyone receives this gift. RC is spot on and that is Bible
AMEN, @mikrtonindon549, you are absolutely right!
Excuse me please, @mikerobinson549,I spelled your name wrong! But Amen, your comment is absolutely right!
WHOSOEVER ! calls on The Name of Jesus , will be saved 😊 amen. Love you all !!!
Lol Romans 8 and 9.
@@MilquetoastQT Yeah, yeah. The typical scriptures calvinists and reformers always twist into their own man made ideas coming out of the 1689 London Baptist and Westminister Confessions that are wrong and lies about how and who gets saved. Believe a lie if you want to. This crap came from Disgustin' Agustine.
God added to the church daily
Such as should be saved
Acts2v47
Parable of the sower
Whosoever believes
God wants all to be saved
So God is a failure -- Christ having declared "few" will be?
What happens when an irresistible force meets an immovable object? Both cannot exist. Either the force can be resisted or the object can be moved. God is sovereign or he is not God. If God is not in control the world is a profoundly terrifying place.
Very true. What a horrific nightmare if man indeed had free will.
@themagicalmarvelousmonkeym7721 Amen.
He raised those who are in His sovereign will to live in His presence forever who are we to question His perfect will and power
John 3:16. Whomsoever. 😊
@@jakegiesbrecht4368 I see, so you save yourself.
What percentage of people does God save, and why is it so low?
God decided to save everyone. Only those who reject the gift will be lost.
Read Ephesians 2:3
@@ScottHackett-u3dBetter: Ephesians 2:1-10.
@@ScottHackett-u3d Amen! The gift is free for even the worst of sinners. Great text!
He decided to save everyone? Is there no lake of fire my friend?
Does His wrath not fall on anyone? 🤔
False.
He will save all who call upon him after they have internalised Christ's instruction with engagement of their will.. Sovereign lord wants everybody to call upon him to be saved.
Not much of a Sovereign since most usurp His will as Christ Himself asserts "few" will be saved.
If God is sovereign in the way Sproul and all Calvinist believe, then its impossible to actually sin. Because if God predetermined all things and we cant go against his sovereign will, then we can do nothing but be obedient to his will. Therefore sin does not exist for Sproul. We are all simply being perfectly obedient to the will of God. And for calvinist God will send his perfectly obedient creatures to hell because doing so "brings him glory."
Im thankful the one true God is nothing like that.
God doesn't decide who goes where. Neither does Lucifer. When we enter the spirit world, we ourselves decide because only then do we know if our lives were centered on God and love, or not. The more we sinned, the further away from heaven we go.
Spoken like a true unbeliever.
@@erniemalone2822 There are spiritual laws that Jesus didn't have a chance to reveal, but they cannot be ignored just because we don't know, yet.
Once again you don’t make any sense. God is sovereign. Read your Bible.
“The more we sinned, the further away from heaven we go” where is that in the Bible. We are all born into this world spiritually dead to God. Can’t get any further from heaven than that. There is nothing in you or me that would ever cause us to turn to Him. If Christ does not intervene we all go to hell. Once again read your Bible.
Read John 17: 3.😮
At one point I enjoyed the whole RC Sproul, John MacArthur scene... I thought they were really smart and enjoyed the "deep" theology. Debating the letters of T.U.L.I.P for hours. Now it all sounds like, "blah, blah, blah."
Be careful that you don’t seek out teachers will tickle your ears.
I would never serve a God who’s picking and choosing who to save. I am beyond sick and tired of people twisting the Word of God. Jesus died for everyone and wants everyone to be saved. Unfortunately, not everyone believes. God chose those He knew would believe. This ungodly teaching is going to cost a lot of people to lose their souls.
You CANNOT know the mind of God. Wake up preacher.
...they that have *DONE GOOD go unto the resurrection of LIFE - John 5:29
...they that have *DONE EVIL go unto the resurrection of DAMNATION - John 5:29
GOOD: Titus 1:16; Strong's #g0018 ἀγαθός; pleasant, AGREEABLE (to truth)
EVIL: Prov 8:13; Strong's #h7451. רַע ra‘; bad, DISAGREEABLE (liars)
"The counsel of His own Will."
Or, "Himself". He uses His own self in predestining.
What is His counsel?
"Who hath known the mind of the Lord? Or who hath been His counsellor?"
The elect are a mystery only known by God and the elect.
And the only thing we know about the elect is that every Jew is elect (Romans 11:26). Every Gentile, I think not. (So, yes, Judas is in Heaven). I wish God was a universalist but Scripture does not say this. ("Free will" is heresy. Romans chapters 8 and 9).
RC is more about academics than Christianity. He seems to base his teachings on philosophy than Christianity. He preaches knowledge instead of Jesus Christ crucified.
Way to butcher Romans 9.
Sproul should have explored his original misgivings a bit further.
Wow, this was some seriously screwed up twisting of clear bible doctrine.
God:
"Trust in the Lord with all of your heart..."
God: just kidding, you can't. Now I'm gonna send you to Hell, and it's your fault.
Thank you for your opinion. Everyone is allowed one. But that's all it is.
@wataboutya9310 Worse -- it's a mocking of the true God.
@wataboutya9310 everyone is allowed one by who? God? Well, Blame him cuz according to your theology he made me say it.
God does not decide who to save.
Read your bible, study it
You have to ignore a lot of “elect”, and “chosen” verses to believe that.
Then who does -- the creature? Not much of a god you have in your mind. Such it is without becoming a new creature/new man which only the Sovereign God can birth.
You might want to start shuddering.
???????
False.
Sproul's Calvinism is false theology. Each person decides for themselves whether to accept Jesus as their savior.
Dead men make no such decisions. And all are dead in sin and remain dead unless by the will of God Almighty He births them anew making them partakers of the divine nature.
No need to attach any man's name to these truths clearly established in the Bible.
@@themagicalmarvelousmonkeym7721 You are teaching the false doctrine that God chooses who goes to heaven. Calvin's T.U.L.I.P. is false doctrine.
... Every person can choose for themselves.
Lol
@@lewis7315 How could a spiritually dead person choose to believe in God if it weren't for God taking the initiative to save them? "None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God.
All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one." Romans 3:10-12
@@ellenmcnerney1031 you are taking this out of context as all calvinists do. Paul makes it absolutely clear that everyone has a free will choice.
Romans ten says everyone who confesses and believes will be saved. Over and over again God makes it clear that the offer is open to everyone.
both the Eunic and the Phillippian jailor and his family made a free will choice, as did everyone Paul talked to who got saved. "by grace through faith"
That is also what Martin Luthor taught as well. you strain a knat and swollow a camel in an effort to refuse the truth. Basically lots of Calvinists go to hellfire because they have head knowledge about God, but in pride refuse to accept Jesus shed blood to forgive their sins...
Listen,are you pilitician or Christian? Dont try to confuse the people,we,as a christian we defend the Bible,in other words,,GOD'S WORD,AND DONT TRY TO SAY THAT ISRAEL IS THE CHOSEN PEOOLE,THAT WAS IN THE ALL TESTAMENT.
WHEN JESUS DIED ON THE CROSS,FROM THAT MOMENT TILL NOW 2024 ,WE ARE THE TRUE GOD'S PEOPLE ALL WHO COMES TO JESUS WE ARE SON OF GOD.PAUL SAYS:
YOU ARE THE TRUE JEW PEOPLE WHO ACEPT JESUS CHRIST IN THE HEART,BECAUSE JEW IS THE HEART WHO ACEPTED JESUS,NO IN THE FLESH BUT IN THE HEART.,SO,DONT COME UP WITH THAT NARRATIVE THE ISRAEL IS THE CHOSEN PEOPLE.
GOD SPOKE TO ABRAHAM AND TOLD HIM:
WITH YOU I WILL MAKE MY PACT,HE DID NOT SAY TO YOU AND THE BUNCH OF YOUR DECENDENT.