This variant of the B58 (382hp) consumes oil. Same issue in the BMW M340. I'm leasing a 2021 M340 and it needed 1 quart of oil added at around 6500 miles. After the 10k oil change, it needed another quart added around 16k miles
Im needing a quart every 2k miles. I do however push this car pretty hard. I’ve just been adding the oil myself because Toyota does not know how to properly maintenance this car.
That sucks man I feel for you.. my 2020 has zero issues and I would hope any revisions moving forward would of maintained that reliability. Hopefully your local dealership takes care of you with everything.
I haven’t met ANY 2020 owners with issues! It seems like the compression changes are probably the culprit of the 2021 issues. Thank you and fingers crossed it’s smooth sailing from here
@@godrive6902 all the best to you, fellow supra owner ❤ I believe toyota will make everything right. Would be best if this 3000 mile test shows no more oil consumption!
Any update since it's been a year? If it's still 1 quart/liter every 2k miles, that's only an extra 1.6cents per mile. If you drive a fair amount like 10k miles/year, that's an extra ~$160/year. Annoying but not enough to get rid of it, imho.
Well, that oil sensor will tell you if oil is low or needs to be changed depending on how you drive (When it's working), but I can not tell you when you overfill the engine. So DIYers be very careful and follow the manual down to the letter.
THIS! I honestly hate depending on a sensor and not having a dipstick. Several people have even mentioned what if the sensor goes out? That’ll be a fun repair
That’s so crazy, I thought those motors were totally bullet proof! I’d definitely hold off on the tune, warranty is life bro! Like you said, hopefully it’s just consuming a lot of oil like a normal bmw motor.
@@bradofwar5960 honestly I appreciate some insight from a b58 owner. I’ve had a few cars now and not a single one consumed oil until this car. And only one of them was NA. I’m just going to try and put these 3k miles on the car quick and see if it’s getting replaced
@@godrive6902 I can understand, but keep in mind you got another version of the B58 engine. If you go to the forums you see nothing from oil consumption from the 40i's.
@@godrive6902 Ive only had the car back for about a month. I have around 6000 miles now. Toyota refused to credit my account for the time the car was gone. I’m in the lemon law process now because of the over 30 day repair time.
New engine styles without the real world testing... im guessing the 2020 b58 is the one that had been tested and proven good for years in the bmws? I imagine this wouldn't be a problem on the 2023 or 24 models
Honestly that’s what it feels like. The 2021s are the test cars and they’ll get the bugs fixed for later model years. I wouldn’t doubt it if by 2022 they have it fixed up
Does anyone know if a later build date for the engines with a fix is out there? They obviously had to stop production on faulty motors. I want to know that date If I am going to purchase a new toy. If I can avoid this issue through deferment, I will.
Had no issues 2300 miles changed my first oil but never floored it till first oil change never floored it in break In period either. But get that checked out mine 2021 build in 03/20/20
Im more worried as we haven't got any news on the 2022MY Supra's. Toyota should of just used there own factory's in Japan i think the issue is Magnyr Styr and the quantity of cars they build from many manufacturers. If Toyota somehow is able to get all the BMW tools etc. I think it'd be easier for Toyota do the quality control on every vehicle ,instead of having a third party do it, and of course this Pandemic didn't help.
I wouldn't let this issue dissuade anyone from buying this car. I have a 2021 3.0 Premium and am at around 5,400 miles now. This issue has never arisen for me. I had the first oil change at around 2,800 miles and oil level was fine and it's still at a good level since the first oil change a year ago. Even if I was experiencing the 1 liter of oil needed every 2k miles issue, I would still love this car. Throw a liter in the trunk!
Dude, I just started my search for a car and had the Supra on my list. This is not cool - might have to scratch it off my list if this continues or if Toyota does not own up to this problem. Toyota better take care of you bro.
So far their honest answer is they don’t know what to do and are trying to investigate the issue. I’ve already had them too off the oil again since this video was released!
@@godrive6902 Wishing you all the the best with this. Looking forward to seeing how it will all wind up. LOL was hoping to get in the Surpra this month but man... between the crap dealers who would rather let the car sit than to sell at a reasonable/market price and this...
@@godrive6902 hello man! i watched your vid and i was STUNNED frankly how you seemed to maintain your cool after the message came thru when you demonstrated it all;im late posting and felt bad for you or anyone that shells out the substantial funds then mechanics/techs etc 'dont know what to do' they surely KNEW WHAT TO DO when it came to taking and raking-in buyers funds for these supras...fast fwd,do you still own it or did you dump it etc? if you still own it,you have any other issues thus-far? i bet if this was a beater car,youdve had no issues;back in the day i bought a re-built merc sable as a knock around grocery getter when i was 1st starting out,i was stunned how many mostly older folks asked me about it when id fuel up made me laugh out loud since i only paid $1800 for it body redone paint etc i had NO issues with that car and moved me from diff states back n forth,i eventually traded it in(didnt know any better back then,shouldve kept it)i hope you either dumped it or it all got resolved with zero issues to note.
@@godrive6902 Hi again, You have a model 2021 built in 3/2020?, Makes no sense, in the first quarter of 2020 (your build date), they were making 2020's not 2021s. something don't jive, date wise.
(late comment) but same deal on my 2021 supra about a couple of months ago. Went in and the service dcept's supra guy said it's a known issue, they dont have a fix yet (at that time). Asked for a top off and they mentioned to bring it back in. I haven't yet.... but yeah.
Ideas are up in the air right now. I’ve pretty much accepted if it’s a lemon no biggie on to the next one, if it doesn’t come back car is getting tuned and we are breaking into the 10s!!
@@rider14mcd63 the car itself won’t be a lemon. If Toyota decides they want to replace the motor and can’t do it in a timely manor it will fall under the lemon law
@@godrive6902 you just needed to add oil. Most engines that are not naturally aspirated will burn some oil when pushed. Thats why I asked you that in the other video. Good videos.
I have a 21 and I had the low oil popup at 3,250, had it topped off, and 1,600 miles later it has popped up again... Toyota left a sticker recommending a full oil change at 5k miles but Bmw recommends ever 12k.... don't know if I should hit the dealer 200 miles from now and let them know it's consuming more oil or take it at 12k.
So I’m pretty much in the same not it keeps consuming about every 2k miles for me. I’ve documented the issue with them but will not be going back unless something actually happens to the car. My dealer has no clue about these cars and doesn’t even have the adapter to jack these up.
This is over bloated. The new Supra oil consumption is the old Porsche IMS bearing issue where less than 1% of the cars are effected. Refill it and carry on. Bmw is known for consuming oil. And yes, send it and drive it! -2021 Supra owner.
Starting to do detailed clips in next couple videos already starting process related to the oil consumption! Info on channel check it out if needed bro !
@@godrive6902 just sent my a91 phantom grey in Thursday at 1800 miles... rear diff was leaking too after it got put up in the air .. manufactured warranty covered it. I mean I drive hard forsure but 1889 miles exactly . are you worried?
@@yungbuq4679 at the end of the day if the car turns out to be problematic I’ll just get rid of it. I’ve really enjoyed this car and I drive it like crazy but if problems start to come up, I don’t think it’ll be worth it
@@yungbuq4679 I have actually seen this on the forums. This will probably be my next move. Initially I was taking it to Toyota to get everything documented. At this point all they can say is they are investigating the issue but have attempted nothing
So I’m averaging 2k miles before adding oil. I’m at 8300. Toyota did an oil change on my car around 5k but they had no intensions of doing anything else with the car other than adding oil. It wasn’t a very informative update so I haven’t made a video on it lol
I have to add oil about every 2500 miles. However, I do a lot of hard driving with all of the events that I do. That definitely contributes to how soon I have to add oil
@@godrive6902 yikes man... I never burned oil in my LS engines like this. I'm not tolerating it with the Supra, it's nonsense how some burn and others don't and the 2020s are fine. It's a shame because I love the car but I'll see how it goes.. this kind of issue is an easy lemon win in my state thank god
@@sly9263 I completely agree with you. I’ve owned an atsv and zl1 and neither one burned oil. Toyota is pushing for it being normal for the engine to burn 1 liter every I think 1500 miles. Way too many people on the forums are okay with that. I still haven’t tuned my car because I know Toyota will instantly blame the tune for oil consumption if something happens
Still consuming oil, Toyota has only said they are investigating the issue. However, I will probably not be taking my car back to them. Their “Supra Master technician” didn’t even know how to jack up the Supra and damaged the jacking points.
It cost more than mk5 bud have u seen recent prices for decent one? Or just wait till lotus emira comes out with Toyota v6 and manual similar price maybe 10k more . Might do that sell mine in few years get emira!
I was going to buy this car TODAY. Yes, mofo'in TODAY. why not i thought. just go order one, cheap enough for a super car. I sat in them thought about it a lot, compared with options or just keep my car, and today I am like, YEAH DO IT. Now I will not. I need this car to last me 20+ years and be a highway high speed cruiser to tour from Canada to mexico. Not doing that with this crap design, that's for sure. what a shame. Wtf do i get now? Boxster or cayman 718 base is next best thing (well, better just 20k more ugh)
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This variant of the B58
(382hp) consumes oil. Same issue in the BMW M340. I'm leasing a 2021 M340 and it needed 1 quart of oil added at around 6500 miles. After the 10k oil change, it needed another quart added around 16k miles
Im needing a quart every 2k miles. I do however push this car pretty hard. I’ve just been adding the oil myself because Toyota does not know how to properly maintenance this car.
That sucks man I feel for you.. my 2020 has zero issues and I would hope any revisions moving forward would of maintained that reliability. Hopefully your local dealership takes care of you with everything.
I haven’t met ANY 2020 owners with issues! It seems like the compression changes are probably the culprit of the 2021 issues. Thank you and fingers crossed it’s smooth sailing from here
@@godrive6902 all the best to you, fellow supra owner ❤ I believe toyota will make everything right. Would be best if this 3000 mile test shows no more oil consumption!
Any update since it's been a year?
If it's still 1 quart/liter every 2k miles, that's only an extra 1.6cents per mile. If you drive a fair amount like 10k miles/year, that's an extra ~$160/year. Annoying but not enough to get rid of it, imho.
So what ended up being the issue??? Asking because I am looking to get a 2023 Supra.
Well, that oil sensor will tell you if oil is low or needs to be changed depending on how you drive (When it's working), but I can not tell you when you overfill the engine. So DIYers be very careful and follow the manual down to the letter.
THIS! I honestly hate depending on a sensor and not having a dipstick. Several people have even mentioned what if the sensor goes out? That’ll be a fun repair
That’s so crazy, I thought those motors were totally bullet proof! I’d definitely hold off on the tune, warranty is life bro! Like you said, hopefully it’s just consuming a lot of oil like a normal bmw motor.
So far I’d say anyone in the market should go for a 2020
It's not a BMW issue. It's this 2021 supra issue. My M140i with the B58 doesn't drink one drop of oil.
@@bradofwar5960 honestly I appreciate some insight from a b58 owner. I’ve had a few cars now and not a single one consumed oil until this car. And only one of them was NA. I’m just going to try and put these 3k miles on the car quick and see if it’s getting replaced
@@godrive6902 I can understand, but keep in mind you got another version of the B58 engine. If you go to the forums you see nothing from oil consumption from the 40i's.
German engineering shit engines
This happened to me. Toyota had to replace my engine at 5000ish miles. They had my car for 45 days. Good luck.
More than anything, the 45 days is what I don’t want to deal with!! How many miles do you have now? Does it look like the issue was fixed?
@@godrive6902 Ive only had the car back for about a month. I have around 6000 miles now. Toyota refused to credit my account for the time the car was gone. I’m in the lemon law process now because of the over 30 day repair time.
Wow man! Thanks for that info. My car has 3600 on it so far. Thanks again.
@@keithjackson4985 hopefully ours end up okay, but if I end up with a lemon I’m probably just moving on to another platform
@@Norcal_KT hoping everything goes smooth with your lemon law process!
New engine styles without the real world testing... im guessing the 2020 b58 is the one that had been tested and proven good for years in the bmws? I imagine this wouldn't be a problem on the 2023 or 24 models
Honestly that’s what it feels like. The 2021s are the test cars and they’ll get the bugs fixed for later model years. I wouldn’t doubt it if by 2022 they have it fixed up
Shitty german engineering
in the manual, it does say if you do this and that, it will consume oil
Does anyone know if a later build date for the engines with a fix is out there? They obviously had to stop production on faulty motors. I want to know that date If I am going to purchase a new toy. If I can avoid this issue through deferment, I will.
Same thing happened to me, added a quart and hadn’t the issue since, put 4K miles on it since it happened
That’s awesome to hear! Glad there are some people it didn’t come back
How many miles did you have on it when you added?
@@rider14mcd63 3800
Had no issues 2300 miles changed my first oil but never floored it till first oil change never floored it in break In period either. But get that checked out mine 2021 build in 03/20/20
I work at a dealer and we had a 2021 Supra with 3k miles consuming oil and we ended up replacing the engine
Any idea how long the replacement took?
$50.000 and it BURNS OIL LIKE A 70S PINTO
Im more worried as we haven't got any news on the 2022MY Supra's. Toyota should of just used there own factory's in Japan i think the issue is Magnyr Styr and the quantity of cars they build from many manufacturers. If Toyota somehow is able to get all the BMW tools etc. I think it'd be easier for Toyota do the quality control on every vehicle ,instead of having a third party do it, and of course this Pandemic didn't help.
I wouldn't let this issue dissuade anyone from buying this car. I have a 2021 3.0 Premium and am at around 5,400 miles now. This issue has never arisen for me. I had the first oil change at around 2,800 miles and oil level was fine and it's still at a good level since the first oil change a year ago. Even if I was experiencing the 1 liter of oil needed every 2k miles issue, I would still love this car. Throw a liter in the trunk!
How come toyota couldn't make a straight 6 engine? That would have been better
My buddies 2021 had this problem. The 2020’s don’t have any issues.
Keep us posted, just bought my 2021 3.0 last friday
For sure man! Unfortunately I didn’t know this was a thing until AFTER I bought mine. Same with some of the 21s can’t be tuned
@@godrive6902 Thanks bro. I bought the 2021 with a downpipe and tune in mind lol, i guess we’ll have to wait and see, ugh
@@johncredo1148 do you know how to check your ecu production date?
Haven’t had the chance to do much research on it, I’m all ears
I had an ISF prior to this, had to send the ecu somewhere to unlock and actually tune it
Dude, I just started my search for a car and had the Supra on my list. This is not cool - might have to scratch it off my list if this continues or if Toyota does not own up to this problem. Toyota better take care of you bro.
So far their honest answer is they don’t know what to do and are trying to investigate the issue. I’ve already had them too off the oil again since this video was released!
@@godrive6902 Wishing you all the the best with this. Looking forward to seeing how it will all wind up. LOL was hoping to get in the Surpra this month but man... between the crap dealers who would rather let the car sit than to sell at a reasonable/market price and this...
@@godrive6902 hello man! i watched your vid and i was STUNNED frankly how you seemed to maintain your cool after the message came thru when you demonstrated it all;im late posting and felt bad for you or anyone that shells out the substantial funds then mechanics/techs etc 'dont know what to do' they surely KNEW WHAT TO DO when it came to taking and raking-in buyers funds for these supras...fast fwd,do you still own it or did you dump it etc? if you still own it,you have any other issues thus-far? i bet if this was a beater car,youdve had no issues;back in the day i bought a re-built merc sable as a knock around grocery getter when i was 1st starting out,i was stunned how many mostly older folks asked me about it when id fuel up made me laugh out loud since i only paid $1800 for it body redone paint etc i had NO issues with that car and moved me from diff states back n forth,i eventually traded it in(didnt know any better back then,shouldve kept it)i hope you either dumped it or it all got resolved with zero issues to note.
Oil consumption and 4 tires in 2 years . Those have been my issues lol
Hi, anymore issues with the oil consumption.
Any update?
What was your production date? (Inside driver door well). Please.
My production date is 3/20
@@godrive6902 Hi again, You have a model 2021 built in 3/2020?, Makes no sense, in the first quarter of 2020 (your build date), they were making 2020's not 2021s. something don't jive, date wise.
@@mzollnerable they were in production for 2021 it wasn’t sold until December when I bought it
I got a recall this week for the brakes.
I’ve heard about it but have not been notified
(late comment) but same deal on my 2021 supra about a couple of months ago. Went in and the service dcept's supra guy said it's a known issue, they dont have a fix yet (at that time). Asked for a top off and they mentioned to bring it back in. I haven't yet.... but yeah.
"BMW's are known to consume oil." I'm on my 5th BMW, 3rd M car, and none of them have ever consumed a drop between changes.
Issues with BMW engine?
Is yours the 2.0 or 3.0?
3.0
Sorry for the lemon you got, maybe let Toyota buy it back and get a MY20 with unlocked ECU.
Ideas are up in the air right now. I’ve pretty much accepted if it’s a lemon no biggie on to the next one, if it doesn’t come back car is getting tuned and we are breaking into the 10s!!
@@godrive6902 its not a lemon.
@@rider14mcd63 the car itself won’t be a lemon. If Toyota decides they want to replace the motor and can’t do it in a timely manor it will fall under the lemon law
@@godrive6902 you just needed to add oil. Most engines that are not naturally aspirated will burn some oil when pushed. Thats why I asked you that in the other video. Good videos.
I have a 21 and I had the low oil popup at 3,250, had it topped off, and 1,600 miles later it has popped up again... Toyota left a sticker recommending a full oil change at 5k miles but Bmw recommends ever 12k.... don't know if I should hit the dealer 200 miles from now and let them know it's consuming more oil or take it at 12k.
So I’m pretty much in the same not it keeps consuming about every 2k miles for me. I’ve documented the issue with them but will not be going back unless something actually happens to the car. My dealer has no clue about these cars and doesn’t even have the adapter to jack these up.
hoping for the best bro!
We shall see what’s up!
This is over bloated. The new Supra oil consumption is the old Porsche IMS bearing issue where less than 1% of the cars are effected.
Refill it and carry on. Bmw is known for consuming oil. And yes, send it and drive it!
-2021 Supra owner.
"refill it" without knowing how much oil is in it (no dipstick) is as stupid as your post in general.
Starting to do detailed clips in next couple videos already starting process related to the oil consumption! Info on channel check it out if needed bro !
Subscribing now and looking forward to the videos!
Hey. Any news regarding your oil consumption issue?
Already had to top it off again after 2500 miles. Toyota’s only response was they need to investigate why these cars are consuming so much oil
@@godrive6902 just sent my a91 phantom grey in Thursday at 1800 miles... rear diff was leaking too after it got put up in the air .. manufactured warranty covered it. I mean I drive hard forsure but 1889 miles exactly . are you worried?
@@yungbuq4679 at the end of the day if the car turns out to be problematic I’ll just get rid of it. I’ve really enjoyed this car and I drive it like crazy but if problems start to come up, I don’t think it’ll be worth it
@@godrive6902 have you tried using thicker oil? 5-30/5-40 o heard would do the trick since the b58 is boring oil "bmw"
@@yungbuq4679 I have actually seen this on the forums. This will probably be my next move. Initially I was taking it to Toyota to get everything documented. At this point all they can say is they are investigating the issue but have attempted nothing
Still having oil issues?
What was the build date on your supra?
3/20 for build date and 2/20 for ecu
Update?
Driving the heck out of it, still burning up oil but my dealer has no idea what to do. I’m just not going to worry and keep pushing the car
@@godrive6902 at what rate does it burn oil?
@@barshushan roughly a litter every 2k mikes
Any update on your problem? It’s been four months so I’m a little curious.
So I’m averaging 2k miles before adding oil. I’m at 8300. Toyota did an oil change on my car around 5k but they had no intensions of doing anything else with the car other than adding oil. It wasn’t a very informative update so I haven’t made a video on it lol
How many miles do you have on it?
At the time of the video 3200ish
Just get a jb4 tune, it will still be on stock ecu
I see a lot of people on the jb4 piggy backs and I’m really interested. I didn’t realize how much you could do with just one of those
Hey dude get rid of that Willie Taggart Era FSU hat and get a new one
I actually do need a new one! I’ve been wearing it since 2013 😂 However this hat is from well before Willie went to FSU
Hows it going so far? Just got mines
I’ve actually got an appointment for them to check it out Friday. Car is low again and they don’t want me to do anything to it until they see it
@@godrive6902 oh ok. Definitely make an updated video. I'm pretty curious.
@@JulietActual absolutely! That’ll be coming soon
Love the car man! Saw it yesterday at Home Depot lol. Hope you saw the note
I did!! I will be there this Sunday! Come check out the car!!
@@godrive6902 awesome! I just moved to Cape Coral this weekend and I’m a huge car enthusiast so hopefully I can meet some people during the meet!
Hows the car doing with oil consumption? I got it at 3,000 miles from running the measurement
I have to add oil about every 2500 miles. However, I do a lot of hard driving with all of the events that I do. That definitely contributes to how soon I have to add oil
@@godrive6902 yikes man... I never burned oil in my LS engines like this. I'm not tolerating it with the Supra, it's nonsense how some burn and others don't and the 2020s are fine. It's a shame because I love the car but I'll see how it goes.. this kind of issue is an easy lemon win in my state thank god
@@sly9263 I completely agree with you. I’ve owned an atsv and zl1 and neither one burned oil. Toyota is pushing for it being normal for the engine to burn 1 liter every I think 1500 miles. Way too many people on the forums are okay with that. I still haven’t tuned my car because I know Toyota will instantly blame the tune for oil consumption if something happens
@@godrive6902 same mindset on the tune as well... I'm afraid to tune it because they'll fingerpoint that the moment something goes wrong
probably didn't even bother following the proper break-in period rules...........most people don't even know about that
I take it you didn't do the break in...
I actually did! First 1200 miles were tough not tracking it but I waited patiently
@@godrive6902 I'm sure it was
If you are paying that much for a car.
Its bullshit if you don't take it out of the parking lot .Burning 🔥🔥🔥🔥 RUBBER
I need a Michelin sponsorship! 😂
What were you thinking for tunning? Is your ecu tunable?
Yeah my ECU is a March production date. I’m local to induction performance (Tampa) so I won’t have any down time sending the Ecu off to get unlocked.
Any updates on the oil issues?
Still consuming oil, Toyota has only said they are investigating the issue. However, I will probably not be taking my car back to them. Their “Supra Master technician” didn’t even know how to jack up the Supra and damaged the jacking points.
sick vid
Thanks dude!
I am just glad you do not have douchebag sunglasses during this video
thats horrible man thank god i got the launch edition
It’s actually getting worse, I’ll be doing a video on that soon
Keep us posted my man! Hopefully it’s nothing!
For sure!! Going to keep up the videos as much as I can!
Hey, your low on oil
It’s weight reduction
FULL SEND
Only way to do it!
18 suckers didn't like it car asere send them to SVS HD
i lease mine so i dont give a fuck 🤣🤣👏🏽👏🏽
Drive it like you stole it lol jk, but really
Never stopped!
Solution is real simple. Just buy a real Toyota like a Mark IV. Done!
Depending on how the next week goes I may be done with this one. Update video will be coming out soon
It cost more than mk5 bud have u seen recent prices for decent one? Or just wait till lotus emira comes out with Toyota v6 and manual similar price maybe 10k more . Might do that sell mine in few years get emira!
I would of just saved money and gotten a Lexus F sport ..this Supra is BMW trash
im glad im not the only one out here thinking the same thing for the level of funds theyre askin for it too
Welcome to BMW ownership!
llllooo
I was going to buy this car TODAY. Yes, mofo'in TODAY. why not i thought. just go order one, cheap enough for a super car. I sat in them thought about it a lot, compared with options or just keep my car, and today I am like, YEAH DO IT. Now I will not. I need this car to last me 20+ years and be a highway high speed cruiser to tour from Canada to mexico. Not doing that with this crap design, that's for sure. what a shame. Wtf do i get now? Boxster or cayman 718 base is next best thing (well, better just 20k more ugh)
I still really enjoy this car and drive the heck out of it!
@@godrive6902 that engine needs a ton of oil to exist and not wear out though.
or you can get the mx-5 RF and pocket the rest of the funds and be all worry-free,since the mx-5 is ALL MADE IN JAPAN =)
This car was a mistake. Toyota should never be in bed with bmw.