i am very disturbed how you're saying a 30 plus year old and a minor can fuck if they both down you shouldn't entertain that i am 20 and don't you are troubled and a lot of your community is as-well 0 morals
@@jesseknierim8922 _That's because Destiny is very smart, well-spoken and articulate but he is amoral. He doesn't veiw sex and relationships in the same way as most normal people do._
@@mateoignacio9670 get his hotdog out your mouth and azz..it doesn’t take smarts to stream and be in his position lol smh just consistency to keep up with the algorithm..if you wanted too you could be in his position easily…he’s not big at all lol my little cousin has a bigger following on TikTok then this dude has on all 3 of his TH-cam channels lol and she isn’t the brightest!
@@kidusgetachew9215If only that were true. With the amount of personal insults, deliberate misunderstanding/misconstruing of events, and general dishonesty the comparison doesn’t make much sense at all
anytime he comes on its usually because he wants to be a contrarian and get some content. he doesnt have any real opinion on it he just wants to see if he can get any points for fun. he doesnt think 2 moves ahead which is why he got scholar mated by charlie and completely owned in a debate where ethan pulled up a graph that proved x's own point. hes so infatuated with his own farts. someone will agree with him and he will find a reason to argue against it lol
Yeah i love X, he's the only streamer i've ever supported, but he's literally dumb and shouldn't debate lol. I appreciate some his takes but a lot of his others are so blatantly incorrect because he's been stuck in front of a computer for the last 10 years. @lordn3m3sis
He wasn't making a legal argument. He used the legal standard as a bench mark since he views it as deriving from an ethical source (the American legal system) and because it's the moral standard that the average person subscribes to for this issue. Essentially he's saying that what the doc did was wrong because he knowingly, or so its presumed, went against thee standard for what's right. Which I think is fair given his and docs ignorance about the moral argument for the age of consent. later on however he did make some legal arguments that were bad.
His whole chat was roasting X the entire debate, basically his entire chat was against him during debate, it was crazy to watch live. His chat was going nuts when he answered the drunk driving hypothetical, that was a wild answer.
@@dylaroo24because his stance is fucking brain numbing especially since your brain doesn't even finishing development until you're almost in your mid 20s and saying a 17 with a 20 year old is normally reprehensible is insane and overblowing instances where there is no predatory behavior is just going to make more and more people jaded in the topic entirely
X is a complete normy and has no idea where his stated convictions will logically lead, but he triggers Destiny so hard, LMAO. We eatin' good out here boys.
Nothing triggers me more than when you make an analogy and the person's response is "I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU'RE SAYING THING A IS LITERALLY EXACTLY THE SAME AS THING B"
@@BeauxJackson There is no anology that is 1:1 ever, so then we might as well remove the concept. Only a mentally incompetent person will talk about the fact that the anology is not the same, rather than looking at the logic or moral of the anology.
@@BeauxJackson Being unable to engage with a hypothetical that isn't 1:1 is literally a sign of lower cognitive function. I'm not saying you're retarded but what I'm saying is the literature would support such a claim
@@Mas-ij3ti Are you dumb? You can 100% make an analogy 1:1. If you have to obfuscate with some over the top nonsense then that shows your lack of comprehension. If you’re gonna speak on something, have enough knowledge to bring a 1:1 analogy to the equation. Be intellectually honest
@BeauxJackson As long as 1:1 doesn't mean "literally exactly the same thing" like Xqc said, because then it's not an analogy. It's just the same thing.
According to XQC, when you turn 18 you become a Slytherin Sage and cannot interact with anyone until they also become sages otherwise its as bad as torture. Got it.
Id rather my 17 year old daughter to be with a serial murdering, sociopathic 17 year old whose been in and out Juvie his whole life than with.... a 20 year old plain and regular guy!!!! Those extra 3 years of age are just pure evil.
He also fails to acknowledge existence of Romeo and Juliet clause, that allows someone below and above age of consent to be a couple as long as they are not very different in age
@@mariomario1462 its basically the same in canada, the age of consent is 16, but 15 and 14 year old can consent with people 5 years older than them, and 13 and 12 year olds can with 2 years older. for some reason x thinks that a 21 year old sleeping with a 17 year old is worse than a 17 year old sleeping with a 13 year old, when in reality its the opposite
I don't think the nuance really applies, based on what I'm getting so far. Seems like his argument is "the guy a little bit over the limit on a country road is less severe of a risk than the guy further over the limit in the city". Sure, that's true, but that doesn't suddenly mean we should turn a blind eye to the first one on principle. We should care about the doc thing because, unless we get further details, it seems like he's done the wrong thing and that isn't something that should slide. It's potentially not that big of a deal if they're initiating / encouraging and he's not leveraging his position and they're like 17 not 15 but we don't know that. The nuance to the situation is all true but his conclusion / position on the situation still seems overly dismissive. Almost feels like he's deliberately being contrarian but it tracks with past opinions.
it's not really hard to understand that context matters. we don't know what dr disrespect said or did. all we know is that the person was apparently a minor and it was a little on the inappropriate side. what xqc is doing is virtue signaling. he's only saying what he thinks people want to hear. he's most likely a closeted perv. dudes who spend all their time online usually are.
I mean there is kind of a ratio thing though at play. A 36 year old dating a 30 year old isn't weird at all but a 13 year old teen dating a 7 year old would be pretty weird. Or say a 20 year old dating a 10 year old is way more weird than a 60 year old dating a 50 year old
I mean it sounds like from what you’re saying he’s basically saying he relies on the law for what he believes is wrong. Which is entirely reasonable for him to choose to do. Underage people having sex with underage people happens all the time. Sure it’s a 3 year gap which is definitely not a situation I was ever in at that age but it is at least from a law perspective different than 20 with a 17.
@@limear There are a few who are just scared to give their opinion I would guess. This cancelculture is getting out of hand. Critically or unbiased thinking becoming more rare by the day.
@@MxMurksso destiny is unbais stop it, he larps from grift to grift no base of substance no God no faith no family, if politics consumes you and becomes your identity that's sad especially since it's a fixes game
@@mathieusimoneau3358 but there are no universal morals attached to it. He doesn't "care", he isn't upset about states or countries that exist with lower ages of consent.
That is because you guys are looking at it wrong. It is about brain development. Kids dont fully grasp consequences and lack as much impulse control until their early 20's. The science and brain scans back it up, the numbers and stats back it up. So a 25 year old with a 17 is worse than 20 with 17 because 25 has more brain development. -- Also illegal to take advantage of a mentally retarded person, same thought process
I think he’s just got a very normie view which is very functional in general application but doesn’t have the contours to navigate edge cases. I wouldn’t hold that against most people.
@@kuriosagamisou1330the view given was a very American view for sure. In Europe the age gets as low as 14, whereas in other English speaking countries it’s 16 typically.
@@Majorwindy I start to hold it against them when you ask them a question where an exception would apply and yet still weight it the same as someone maliciously preying on minors. It's silly
@@reasonabledictator8993he argued they probably shouldn’t based off 17 year old mental maturity levels but also said that doesn’t make the slightly older adult a predator. This entire conversation is about drawing a line somewhere.
@@mateoignacio9670 you are the meat rider. a normal human sees this for what it is, debating age of consent, its periphery, and excusing degeneracy. reality is no matter how "not that bad" something is, we draw a line and you are inherently skirting a line for a very sensitive issue when it comes to breaking age of consent in nearly all scenarios with very few exceptions we don't already draw exceptions for. we've drawn some lines as a society to account for Romeo and Juliet scenarios but acting like we need to do much more than that is ridiculous. if you were not in a previous relationship with someone when you were both minors, you have no business getting involved with a minor even if you are both still in high school, etc. accept the rules and responsibilities granted to you as an adult that came with crossing that threshold.
XqC should never be allowed to be with a woman that has less money than him. It gives him way too much power in the relationship. Thats basically th same argument people make for "minors" and "adults"
The amount of virtue signalling from Xqc and him constantly making it personal, explaining how he personally would NEVER do ANYTHING with someone even a day under the age of 18 years old, is really weird. I wonder if he realizes it's kinda sus.
@@GovnaBuckingham It's like people virtue signalling like crazy about how horrible racism is. Those people are usually incredibly racist themselves. The same with people crying about sexism often holding the most man-hating views and anti-fascists being the most fascist people you'll ever meet. People often tend to be incredibly judgmental about the very flaw they themselves possess in an attempt to overcompensate and convince others that they are good people. They approach the topic in a very emotional manner and are unwilling to intellectually engage with.
@@GovnaBuckingham XqC's response is either SuS because he's drawing from a personal experience Or he's just incapable of looking at any issue from a perspective outside of his own (which is what empathy is) and is years behind the world on this topic. Take your pick.
@@GovnaBuckinghamVirtue signaling to cope about skeletons in his closet or not being able to have nuanced discussions while having this much influence? both are pretty sus
The notion that turning 18 is a universal marker of maturity and ethical relationship choices is a result of societal conditioning, rather than an absolute truth. While the law states that individuals who are 18 or older are legally adults and can make their own choices without legal interference, it does not account for the nuanced and complex circumstances surrounding these individuals. We have a duty as social creatures to find red flags for our friends, families, acquintances and the people around us. We should be vigilant about the dynamics in relationships, especially when there is a significant age gap. It's important to ensure that relationships are not exploitative or manipulative. Factors such as the intent of the individuals involved, their physical and mental states, emotional and social intelligence, status, and financial situations should all be considered when evaluating the appropriateness of a relationship. Even at older ages, such as between 50 and 60-year-olds, there remains a generational divide. While society might not view these relationships as problematic due to the reduced potential for manipulation based on inexperience, the differences in cultural and social references can still be notable.
I can only speak based on what I've witnessed. At 13, two of my classmates were already doing it regularly (not with one another). They both looked much older. In a different school, at 16 one of my classmates started dating a 30 year old (they eventually got married). At 17, another classmate began dating a 30 year old. For the record, both of these girls had fully developed bodies since they were 15. Girls mature really fast. These relationships should not be encouraged, but it's also not a huge deal IMO.
@@justwannabehappy6735 They definitely wouldn't be nearly as influential or wealthy, but I believe some of them, like Destiny, could have been successful via other avenues. But, xQc is pure brainrot; he'd be drooling on the burgers instead of flipping them.
@@EmperorDxD still, in which world is playing video games a job ? It was already ludicrous that professional athletes became millionaires, now professional gamers ? Like wtf .
@@gomikuzu4545 we arent talking about a 20 year old, huge difference between someone who graduated high school 2 years ago and someone who is old enough to be your dad, not a single 40+ year old man dating 17 year olds is a normal cool dude, their weird or trash people every time
@@notcanibus4764 ok so u didnt watch the video then because what i said is one of the things they talked about and destiny's position was that he didnt care much without more info on the situation (its literally the first 20 seconds of the vid)
The crazy thing to me is people think kids under 17 don’t have the ability to consent to sexting, but they can consent to changing their body and making permanent changes to it.
They arent kids either. They can consnet as can anyone 14 or 15. If you wanna look into interesting research look up "teen brain myth" or "lifespan wisdom model"
Maybe because one forces you to go through YEARS of therapy and the other is just a bad decision and could have an affect on their mental without them even knowing it could happen. Say you don't know what you're talking about without saying it lmao
@@mariomario1462 you're literally the reason why the age of consent should be 21 or 25 at this point. I've seen you in like every comment with a reply and everything you've said is actually braindead lmaoo I don't think you can even consent, not because of age but because you don't actually understand why the age of consent exists lmao
@@mariomario1462 It's about asking xQc... To see why he thinks what he thinks. Not suggesting he asks so that xQc can explain to all of us as if he'd enlighten us....
Xqc is the perfect example of the type of person you physically cannot have these conversations with. He's dominated by his emotions and how he needs to virtue signal.
When I was 21 I dated a 17 year old and weirdos on the internet said I was a predator and a pdf. Not one person in my real life, including the girls parents, gave a shit about our age gap.
Yeah XQC is really lacking in critical thinking analysis to comparing concepts through analogies. D WAS MAKING PERFECT SENSE. he operates more in a gray area and X is just black and white.
I know xqc has always been r worded, but jesus. What happened? Is he losing clout, so he decided to try and go at the throat of tiny? Did he get some debate pervert wins recently so he thought he could throw down?
17 year old can’t make that decision to sleep with an older person but if you’re 12 you can get hormone replacement therapy. And I am not saying that a 17 year old should be able to have sex with a 30 year old but I am just pointing out the hypocrisy.
That's not hypocritical. The reason you don't want minors having sex with adults is because of the physical and mental harm that might occur. On the other hand, hormone therapy doesn't physically hurt minors instead it is used to help minors physically or mentally.
@@PA1NK1LLER which part don't you understand? Do I need to explain why full grown adults having sex with 12 year olds is dangerous, why grooming any minors can leave psychological pain? Or is it the fact hormone replacement therapy doesn't hurt minors?
@@PA1NK1LLER which part do you need more info on. Minors having sex with adults being potentially dangerous or minors taking hormone replacement therapy not being dangerous?
XCQ is 100% hung up on destiny's phrasing it as "i don't care that much" If destiny just said "I think it's bad, but without more information i'm not going to get super worked up over it" then i don't think he causes XQC's brain to malfunction.
Destiny definitely strongly implied he thinks it’s fine for 17 year olds to hookup with anyone over the age of 18 as long as they consent. Curious where he draws the line.
Knowing that Doc is in his 40s and this girl is only described as a minor, so 17 at the oldest, yes actually that is pretty fucked up. I could understand Destiny's argument if he was in his early 20s maybe, but that isnt the case. I live in a country where the age of consent is 16 and every single time I've heard of 16-17 year olds hooking up with middle aged men, its always been the most miserable, exploitative, fucked up situation I've ever heard in my life. I think Destiny definitely should care.
Yeah X should have focused on that instead of whatever tangent he went on. The 2 time champ is a known cheater, is significantly older, and has very significant social and monetary power. The probability that he is in that gray zone of consent and not the red is very low
I've had family who married or dated older men young, the age of consent is 16 and they are very happy to this day. I have a large family and they were actively in their lives. Think it's just based on the situations, if the dude is an abuser then yeah it will be bad. Do I personally support the idea, not necessarily but to an extent if both parties are consenting then who could I really say in this case. From my knowledge the men who married my younger cousins had wives who past during child birth or left them and their kids for younger men so I can't really glean a complete motive.
Xqc is so clearly virtue signaling because he is seeing how fucked DrDisrespect and NickMercks got from all of that. He sounds like Nickisnotgreen or some other soy content creator who doesn't engage at all with the question and just says the thing that is the most acceptable socially.
Xqc just rant his unintelligble gibberish. I understand half of it at best. His loss in 6 moves in the chess game against Charlie should be enough evidence about his cognitive abilites
Destiny with some absolute L takes and XQC with the worst argumentation of all time is like the negaverse version of the unstoppable force and the immovable object
Xqc acts like every 17 year old will be talking about their hello kitty backpacks, and talking about how excited they are to lose their virginity, you cant always tell how mature and old a person is, when i was 16 i was doing coke with my friend group
23:49 I really don’t get Xqc’s point here, trauma from sex can happen with the same age, it being an older person doesn’t change anything, the act is still traumatic
X dug his grave from the very first words that came out of his mouth about being a conservative and supporting Trump. That’s the best way to make destiny insta-mald
Underage people should probably not be having sex with anyone. But if they do, yes, there are degrees of danger and potential harm done. And yes, the higher the age difference, the higher the danger and potential harm that could be done are. The whole age of consent thing is somewhat arbitrary, but that's simply because we have to draw the line somewhere. In reality, the age of consent very much differs from person to person. There are plenty of 16 year olds who could be having sex knowing fully well what they are doing. But then there are loads of 25 year olds who are still not mentally capable of dealing with sexual relationships. You can't take this into account when writing laws, though. So funny enough, the old rule of marriage being the deciding factor kinda removes most of the problem, because when you're capable of entering a marriage with someone you're almost certainly mentally prepared to have a sexual relationship with that person. There's a reason civilizations used this rule for thousands of years and the moment we removed the rule things got wildly complicated.
That's his point. The reality is it's fluid, not a straight thing a law can cover absolutely. We can agree it's a good law, but also submit it's not entirely sensible, otherwise everyone would agree. Really, if you wanted people to be fully mature and make arguments about mentality/abuse the minimum age would be 25 when our brains are fully developed, but it's interesting how noone is interested in that.
marriage was imposed as a political tool and was not completely up to will of the females under a patriarchal society. so that logic is very flawed as they were not prepared if someone else was making that decision for them bc we all know that even family won't always make the best decisions for you especially when wealth and power come into play and a daughter is just another chip to play and gamble with. I completely disagree with the latter half of your statements.
@@aweshumandy That's a gross misunderstanding of how things went in the past, lol. Don't let weird arranged marriages between royalty in certain cases throughout history be the lens through which you look at the way 99.99% of people lived. Also, be careful you don't let feminist revisionist history influence your understanding either.
I can only speak based on what I've witnessed. At 13, two of my classmates were already doing it regularly (not with one another). They both looked much older. At 16 (in a different school), one of my classmates started dating a 30 year old (they eventually got married). At 17, another classmate began dating a 30 year old. For the record, both of these girls had fully developed bodies since they were 15. Girls in particular mature really fast. As a general rule it should not be encouraged, but it's also not the end of the world when it happens.
Ahhhh… The two ends of Twitch’s political spectrum; Destiny and Hasan And xQc farming their socially inept viewers every couple months while they flock to his stream to call him dumb. A timeless classic
X is appealing to law, but the majority of first world countries laws are between 14-16 (looking at Europe, East Asia, Aust and NZ). The majority of third world countries are 18-21 (Africa, Middle East, etc). America is an exception in being a first world country with the age of 18, it is not the norm.
Eh when you say 18-21 i dont think you are being entierly honest. Kenya for example has regions where age of consent is 11 and some regions where its 18 (Africa has average age of consent=16). Iran age of consent is 13. Saudi Arabia has no age of consent just marriage laws, so you can marry a 9 year old and if a court says this marriage is in the childs best interest then yeah, its legal... The middle east has average age of consent at 15.5 years. Europe has average age of consent= 16, Asia has average consent=15.5. So Europe, the middle east, Africa and Asia all pretty much have the same age of consent on average. There is however a huge distinction because in many parts of the Middle East and Africa you can get married off to an adult, which can nullify age of consent.
@Mas-ij3ti thank you, multiple Muslim countries have it set that child brides can start whenever they're "developed" which is clear and demonstrable r*pe (Nothing against Muslims, the mass majority aren't like this and haven't been for a very very long time)
@@Mas-ij3ti What are your sources? Kenya is 18 across the board from what I see. Iran has a law that states you simply have to be married, and the average age of marriage in Iran for a woman is 25. Saudis are the same, but the minimum age for marriage in Saudi Arabia is 18. For some specific first world examples: Germany, Austria and Italy are 14, France, Sweden and Monaco is 15, Britain, Norway, China, Hong Kong, Korea, Australia and NZ are all 16. There is a very obvious trend in terms of laws.
I agree. Destiny was being painfully pedantic here. The first whole hour they were just arguing bc Destiny never defined what he meant by “don’t care.”
@@scarletsletter4466 You can infer what he meant by "don't care" from the fact that he agrees with the law at the beginning of the debate yet still says he doesn't care, he's clearly referring to morals, what else could he be referring to?
Nothing destiny said stuck in x’s brain, you’d be able to ask him about this exact conversation next week and he will have no idea what you’re talking about.
The day they turn 18 they magically obtain the ability to navigate the social nuances of the world, a skillset they didn’t have the day before. They instantly get psychic abilities that help ward off the frenzy of 19 year olds knocking down the door to take advantage of them 😂
This warms my heart, XQC has been winning too much lately & been too reasonable. Now this XQC is the XQC I know & refuse to watch lmao He literally can't keep track of his claims or what the conversation even is. I also hate people who code switch like this. Not caring personally is not the same as society caring, social norms, or advocating for the law or morality to be changed. This isn't as bad as Shapiro code switching on the definition of "time" but still very dumb. XQC is literally an embodiment in this conversation for why pedo hunting & pedo manufacturing are such a booming cottage industry.
Like I wish he would just not try to die on the hill about justifying hooking up with an underage girl because apparently if 2 17 year old hook up then she free game with anyone regardless of age
this is a stupid ass take. The thing none of them mention is that there is a difference between an adult and kid. 17 is a fucking kid. Two 17 year olds fucking is just children experimenting. Their brains arent even developed. and putting all that aside, but just the idea of a 40 year old, rich, celebrity, married man with children, fucking a fan is ridiculous and creepy as fuck. What is he downplaying it? The reason is because Steven is another 40 year old creep that be talking to underage fans. 40 year old redditor that be marrying barely 18 girls who look 16.
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i am very disturbed how you're saying a 30 plus year old and a minor can fuck if they both down you shouldn't entertain that i am 20 and don't you are troubled and a lot of your community is as-well 0 morals
@@jesseknierim8922 _That's because Destiny is very smart, well-spoken and articulate but he is amoral. He doesn't veiw sex and relationships in the same way as most normal people do._
I wouldn’t say very smart lol
@@user-tl4sj8vu7y Saying Destiny isnt smart makes you dumb tbh, because he needs to be smart to be in the successful position he is in
@@mateoignacio9670 get his hotdog out your mouth and azz..it doesn’t take smarts to stream and be in his position lol smh just consistency to keep up with the algorithm..if you wanted too you could be in his position easily…he’s not big at all lol my little cousin has a bigger following on TikTok then this dude has on all 3 of his TH-cam channels lol and she isn’t the brightest!
This should have been the presidential debate
as far as i am concerned, it was
Xqc is braindead and can barely string a sentence together so I guess he would be biden in that scenario
Xqc is Biden lmao
@@kidusgetachew9215If only that were true. With the amount of personal insults, deliberate misunderstanding/misconstruing of events, and general dishonesty the comparison doesn’t make much sense at all
@@SagaciousSap69 I was referencing the speech pattern and general re*ardness
I'm half convinvced xQc only came into to debate to piss off destiny lmao
LMFAOOOO
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Sometimes you gotta just contentmaxx
anytime he comes on its usually because he wants to be a contrarian and get some content. he doesnt have any real opinion on it he just wants to see if he can get any points for fun. he doesnt think 2 moves ahead which is why he got scholar mated by charlie and completely owned in a debate where ethan pulled up a graph that proved x's own point. hes so infatuated with his own farts. someone will agree with him and he will find a reason to argue against it lol
xQc is a joke
- flex the watch
- do the worm
- call him poor
X's chat is childish asl but its too funny 😂
Bro I just watched the worm video... X is COOKED
xqc's best move is the sluggg, in the clubbbb
Says childish but is watching a gambling addict debate with a cuuck political troglodyte
the watch flexes are my favorite. INSTANT content generator because it makes people so assmad (bruce).
Literally one of the funniest lines of all time was ethan telling x "I have a show to do I cant sit around watching you do the worm all day"
X: "I'm not making a legal argument"
also X: *proceeds to make a legal argument*
Very completely literally!!! So disappointing! (I personally like them both. I thought and hoped this would go better…lawl)
@@cristinal919 I mean, it's Xqc, he seems to be a decent guy, but Jesus Christ he can be so conceited to the point of being annoying sometimes
@@lordn3m3sis He is just too stupid to realize how stupid he is.
Yeah i love X, he's the only streamer i've ever supported, but he's literally dumb and shouldn't debate lol. I appreciate some his takes but a lot of his others are so blatantly incorrect because he's been stuck in front of a computer for the last 10 years. @lordn3m3sis
He wasn't making a legal argument. He used the legal standard as a bench mark since he views it as deriving from an ethical source (the American legal system) and because it's the moral standard that the average person subscribes to for this issue. Essentially he's saying that what the doc did was wrong because he knowingly, or so its presumed, went against thee standard for what's right. Which I think is fair given his and docs ignorance about the moral argument for the age of consent. later on however he did make some legal arguments that were bad.
When he brought up X’s chat and the first thing I saw was “PACK IT UP UNC YOURE COOKED” I was dyingggg 😭
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His whole chat was roasting X the entire debate, basically his entire chat was against him during debate, it was crazy to watch live. His chat was going nuts when he answered the drunk driving hypothetical, that was a wild answer.
Anyone got the time stamp?
@@theZEEZaround the 30 minute mark
@@dylaroo24because his stance is fucking brain numbing especially since your brain doesn't even finishing development until you're almost in your mid 20s and saying a 17 with a 20 year old is normally reprehensible is insane and overblowing instances where there is no predatory behavior is just going to make more and more people jaded in the topic entirely
Thought X was playing Elden Ring with the amount of times he dodged
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Him and his chat when you bring up his serial theft of content:
Debate ephebophile
I don't think he's dodging. I think he's literally incapable of considering a hypothetical situation.
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X is a complete normy and has no idea where his stated convictions will logically lead, but he triggers Destiny so hard, LMAO. We eatin' good out here boys.
PDF weirdo
@@jaygee5874 I didn't even say what what my beliefs are, I just enjoy the yelling, but OK kiddo.
@@jaygee5874 why u projecting
@@jaygee5874 Cinema IMAX Ultra HD levels of projections here
Loving listening to this. Was gonna put it off till my homies were on but I can't help myself
Nothing triggers me more than when you make an analogy and the person's response is "I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU'RE SAYING THING A IS LITERALLY EXACTLY THE SAME AS THING B"
@@BeauxJackson There is no anology that is 1:1 ever, so then we might as well remove the concept. Only a mentally incompetent person will talk about the fact that the anology is not the same, rather than looking at the logic or moral of the anology.
@@BeauxJackson Being unable to engage with a hypothetical that isn't 1:1 is literally a sign of lower cognitive function. I'm not saying you're retarded but what I'm saying is the literature would support such a claim
@@Mas-ij3ti Are you dumb? You can 100% make an analogy 1:1. If you have to obfuscate with some over the top nonsense then that shows your lack of comprehension. If you’re gonna speak on something, have enough knowledge to bring a 1:1 analogy to the equation. Be intellectually honest
@BeauxJackson As long as 1:1 doesn't mean "literally exactly the same thing" like Xqc said, because then it's not an analogy. It's just the same thing.
@BeauxJackson give an example of a 1:1.
TBH the content Destiny does with X always hits hard ngl
Agreed. It hits my brain cells hard. Listening to a kid who stutters and has the intellect of a mango
Yeah I hope these two never end their chaotic bromance❤️
According to XQC, when you turn 18 you become a Slytherin Sage and cannot interact with anyone until they also become sages otherwise its as bad as torture.
Got it.
When i was 19 I had a 17 year old gf
guess im a predator now? ffs
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Once you're eighteen-eh you have to go to the spawn in adult map-eh, you have to kinda deplug it.
Id rather my 17 year old daughter to be with a serial murdering, sociopathic 17 year old whose been in and out Juvie his whole life than with.... a 20 year old plain and regular guy!!!! Those extra 3 years of age are just pure evil.
A 35 year old talking with a 17 year old is weird
Xqc’s arguement would be a lot more coherent if he believed that there was also something wrong with minors having sex with minors.
Which in some countries is actually illegal
Minor is not synonymous with child
He also fails to acknowledge existence of Romeo and Juliet clause, that allows someone below and above age of consent to be a couple as long as they are not very different in age
@@aleksandracomolaola which really only exists in the U.S. most other countries don't.
@@mariomario1462 its basically the same in canada, the age of consent is 16, but 15 and 14 year old can consent with people 5 years older than them, and 13 and 12 year olds can with 2 years older. for some reason x thinks that a 21 year old sleeping with a 17 year old is worse than a 17 year old sleeping with a 13 year old, when in reality its the opposite
Destiny is using nuance here, hard for many to understand unfortunately. The drunk driving analogy is perfect.
for higher level conversations the 16 who went into a coma was a really good thought experiment. gonna steal that one.
I don't think the nuance really applies, based on what I'm getting so far. Seems like his argument is "the guy a little bit over the limit on a country road is less severe of a risk than the guy further over the limit in the city". Sure, that's true, but that doesn't suddenly mean we should turn a blind eye to the first one on principle. We should care about the doc thing because, unless we get further details, it seems like he's done the wrong thing and that isn't something that should slide. It's potentially not that big of a deal if they're initiating / encouraging and he's not leveraging his position and they're like 17 not 15 but we don't know that. The nuance to the situation is all true but his conclusion / position on the situation still seems overly dismissive. Almost feels like he's deliberately being contrarian but it tracks with past opinions.
it's not really hard to understand that context matters. we don't know what dr disrespect said or did. all we know is that the person was apparently a minor and it was a little on the inappropriate side. what xqc is doing is virtue signaling. he's only saying what he thinks people want to hear. he's most likely a closeted perv. dudes who spend all their time online usually are.
I swear if there is an opposite of a calm ASMR video this is it
This is ASMR for me, I dunno what u mean
@@rileymills7271 Bro I legit fell asleep to this last night lmfao. Can confirm we are indeed freaks
x thinks that a 20 year old sleeping with a 17 year old is horrific but a 17 year old sleeping with a 14 year old is fine? shit makes 0 sense
Yeah that was such a dumb statement from x
And then says its okay for a 50 yr old to get with an 18 yr old
He's being dumb but his argument is that only 17yo should sleep with another 17to
I mean there is kind of a ratio thing though at play. A 36 year old dating a 30 year old isn't weird at all but a 13 year old teen dating a 7 year old would be pretty weird. Or say a 20 year old dating a 10 year old is way more weird than a 60 year old dating a 50 year old
I mean it sounds like from what you’re saying he’s basically saying he relies on the law for what he believes is wrong. Which is entirely reasonable for him to choose to do. Underage people having sex with underage people happens all the time. Sure it’s a 3 year gap which is definitely not a situation I was ever in at that age but it is at least from a law perspective different than 20 with a 17.
Xqc is incapable of actually thinking about this, all he’s doing is exclaiming based off his emotional and normative instinct.
or he simply doesnt like that people want to fuck and talk to minors.....fbi check this mans hard drive
Its 100% virtue signalling
basically every streamer except Destiny and Asmongold
@@limear There are a few who are just scared to give their opinion I would guess. This cancelculture is getting out of hand. Critically or unbiased thinking becoming more rare by the day.
@@MxMurksso destiny is unbais stop it, he larps from grift to grift no base of substance no God no faith no family, if politics consumes you and becomes your identity that's sad especially since it's a fixes game
xQc early in the debate: You cannot compare sex to driving!
xQc later in the debate: Here's a car analogy
If a girl and a guy are dating and the guy is 1 day older, and the guy just turned 18, girl is now 1 day away from being 18 as well:
XQC: DEVIANT
He’s literally the average twitter user
XQC: "law says" off to jail u go
18 is not a marker for anything
@@mariomario1462 Its a line drawn by the law in many countries. I don't see a point in being contrarian on it.
@@mathieusimoneau3358 but there are no universal morals attached to it. He doesn't "care", he isn't upset about states or countries that exist with lower ages of consent.
I don't understand why peoples brains just break as soon as you make any sort of analogy or comparison with sex involved.
That is because you guys are looking at it wrong. It is about brain development. Kids dont fully grasp consequences and lack as much impulse control until their early 20's. The science and brain scans back it up, the numbers and stats back it up. So a 25 year old with a 17 is worse than 20 with 17 because 25 has more brain development. -- Also illegal to take advantage of a mentally retarded person, same thought process
If you choose to argue with xQc, you instantly lose. Arguing with a literal r-word is a big fat L.
He’s not that stupid :(
Republican?
He pretends to be dumb but is actually non dumb
@@seanmurphy2365 Listening to him speak is anti-content.
Dude can't even actually speak english
Xqc saw one "the age of consent is 18" image and based his entire argument on that
yeah what about states taht age of consent is 17 or 16? or countries that age of conesnt is 15 or 14? so now its ok to sleep with a 14 yo? lmao
His whole life and personality
I think he’s just got a very normie view which is very functional in general application but doesn’t have the contours to navigate edge cases. I wouldn’t hold that against most people.
@@kuriosagamisou1330the view given was a very American view for sure. In Europe the age gets as low as 14, whereas in other English speaking countries it’s 16 typically.
@@Majorwindy I start to hold it against them when you ask them a question where an exception would apply and yet still weight it the same as someone maliciously preying on minors. It's silly
I have to give xqc credit every time he comes on he does an excellent job of convincing everyone he doesn’t know up from down.
you do realise his opinion is the hyper majoriry one right
@@HSE331 that 50year olds and 18 year old is more morally correct compared to a 20 year old with a 17 year old. Personally, that take is terrible
@HSE331 that isnt the hyper majority take, you have worms in your brain
When I turned 18, I continued to date my 16 yo gf who was about to turn 17. Arrest me
Romeo and Juliet laws exist for that reason.
according to xqc:
60 year old dating 18 year old: perfectly OK
18 year old dating 17.9 year old: sexual deviant, predator
@@Big_homielander sure, but in XQCs view the moment someone is 18 they cannot be with someone younger
Xqc's position explicitly disagrees with Romeo and Juliet laws. His whole argument relies on there being 0 nuances.@@Big_homielander
@@reasonabledictator8993he argued they probably shouldn’t based off 17 year old mental maturity levels but also said that doesn’t make the slightly older adult a predator. This entire conversation is about drawing a line somewhere.
xQc is a political streamer now ? 😂
Also someone in chat : "xqc and Biden are basically the same" 😂😂😂👏👏
Ever since his divorce he also has to have a take on everything. He definitely learnt all these big words from his lawyer
The Biden emote from the debate is GOLD.
this is the funniest conversation i've heard in a long time lmao.
it's almost 3am here and this has to drop
East coast gang.
@@Millennialaireflorida here o7
Night shift gang enjoyin this rn
@@orcishh night shift gang 4 real.
Janitorial night walker XD
3am? The night is young...
Oh no guys this the "debating the age of consent" Hasan keeps talking about
It unironically is, and Divorcelli comes off as a diddler
@@weirdautumn Hasan meat rider detected
@@mateoignacio9670 you are the meat rider. a normal human sees this for what it is, debating age of consent, its periphery, and excusing degeneracy. reality is no matter how "not that bad" something is, we draw a line and you are inherently skirting a line for a very sensitive issue when it comes to breaking age of consent in nearly all scenarios with very few exceptions we don't already draw exceptions for. we've drawn some lines as a society to account for Romeo and Juliet scenarios but acting like we need to do much more than that is ridiculous. if you were not in a previous relationship with someone when you were both minors, you have no business getting involved with a minor even if you are both still in high school, etc. accept the rules and responsibilities granted to you as an adult that came with crossing that threshold.
He multiple times agrees with the laws of consent.
He's arguing about the level he should care about a situation where no details are out.
@@weirdautumnHasan the passport bro sex tourist live-streaming himself going into an underage brothel? Ok pal whatever you say
Another 10IQ juicer take. We now understand why he hangs out with Aiden. Same level of intelligence.
10iq juicer 😂 true
I debate people EXACTLY how X does, when i'm blackout drunk.
Wow, destiny the only streamer that doesnt virtue signal
Kapp. He does virtue signal just in a whiny obfuscated combative way
@@Sx-xy2zi Can you name an example
everyone virtue signals. Tiny isn't annoying or preachy when he does though.
It's actually impressive how confidently wrong X is. Like, i'm actually a little proud of my juicer doubling down for absolutely no reason.
XqC should never be allowed to be with a woman that has less money than him. It gives him way too much power in the relationship. Thats basically th same argument people make for "minors" and "adults"
His intelligence negates his wealth. If anything, women have the power over him.
He's a gold digger's dream.
The amount of virtue signalling from Xqc and him constantly making it personal, explaining how he personally would NEVER do ANYTHING with someone even a day under the age of 18 years old, is really weird. I wonder if he realizes it's kinda sus.
How is that sus? If anything destinys position is 10x as sus unless you’re saying xqc is trying to hide his real beliefs.
@@GovnaBuckingham It's like people virtue signalling like crazy about how horrible racism is. Those people are usually incredibly racist themselves. The same with people crying about sexism often holding the most man-hating views and anti-fascists being the most fascist people you'll ever meet. People often tend to be incredibly judgmental about the very flaw they themselves possess in an attempt to overcompensate and convince others that they are good people. They approach the topic in a very emotional manner and are unwilling to intellectually engage with.
@@GovnaBuckingham XqC's response is either SuS because he's drawing from a personal experience
Or he's just incapable of looking at any issue from a perspective outside of his own (which is what empathy is) and is years behind the world on this topic.
Take your pick.
@@GovnaBuckinghamVirtue signaling to cope about skeletons in his closet or not being able to have nuanced discussions while having this much influence? both are pretty sus
@GovnaBuckingham It's always sus when you're aggressively virtue signaling. It's like you're hiding something.
The notion that turning 18 is a universal marker of maturity and ethical relationship choices is a result of societal conditioning, rather than an absolute truth. While the law states that individuals who are 18 or older are legally adults and can make their own choices without legal interference, it does not account for the nuanced and complex circumstances surrounding these individuals. We have a duty as social creatures to find red flags for our friends, families, acquintances and the people around us.
We should be vigilant about the dynamics in relationships, especially when there is a significant age gap. It's important to ensure that relationships are not exploitative or manipulative. Factors such as the intent of the individuals involved, their physical and mental states, emotional and social intelligence, status, and financial situations should all be considered when evaluating the appropriateness of a relationship. Even at older ages, such as between 50 and 60-year-olds, there remains a generational divide. While society might not view these relationships as problematic due to the reduced potential for manipulation based on inexperience, the differences in cultural and social references can still be notable.
I can only speak based on what I've witnessed. At 13, two of my classmates were already doing it regularly (not with one another). They both looked much older. In a different school, at 16 one of my classmates started dating a 30 year old (they eventually got married). At 17, another classmate began dating a 30 year old. For the record, both of these girls had fully developed bodies since they were 15. Girls mature really fast. These relationships should not be encouraged, but it's also not a huge deal IMO.
chat gpt ahh
That’s not really societal conditioning. Brains maturing more around age 18 on average is an objective fact.
@@GovnaBuckingham Your brain isn't fully developed until 25. An 18 year old and a 25 year old are at different stages of development. You are wrong.
@@redfly8797what you just said is not true. The "Brain doesn't stop developing until 25" is a pure myth. It's 14/15 in reality.
Kinda mad that Destiny didn't post a full reaction video to the presidential debate. I'll have to give him a low Yelp score this week
It got taken down, there was like an almost 2 hour edited version but it got taken down as I was about 20mins in
@@spaceghosttoast Oh? No way... That sucks. 😞
He barely reacted during it js laughed at points and said idk to xqc when he would ask him questions
@@SEVRR The reactions that made it into the actual video were pretty lively. I guess that's the best of the best then
@@KryptonianChaos1 he has vods on kick....
X is literally Twitter brained LUL
A 17 year old would have sexual leverage over XqC if she simply lied about her age, she doesn’t inherently not have sexual leverage
nah he has age detector antennas on, he knows the exact second someone turns 18 and is ready 😈
What a clown world we live in where xQc is incredibly wealthy and successful.
Social media is one hell of a drug.
Let's be honest, without it, Hassan, Destiny, Vaush, XQC, etc., would be flipping burgers.
@@justwannabehappy6735 They definitely wouldn't be nearly as influential or wealthy, but I believe some of them, like Destiny, could have been successful via other avenues. But, xQc is pure brainrot; he'd be drooling on the burgers instead of flipping them.
Nah he good at what he does his gaming
@@EmperorDxD still, in which world is playing video games a job ? It was already ludicrous that professional athletes became millionaires, now professional gamers ? Like wtf .
@@justwannabehappy6735 he provides entertainment that like asking why are actors millionaire
Coked up xQc vs tired Destiny
Destiny with the normal human take in this whole situation.
Definitely not
surely
@@shareefkillings534320 dating a 17 year old = deviant but 50 yr old with an 18 is fine because their power level evolves at that number
@@gomikuzu4545 we arent talking about a 20 year old, huge difference between someone who graduated high school 2 years ago and someone who is old enough to be your dad, not a single 40+ year old man dating 17 year olds is a normal cool dude, their weird or trash people every time
@@notcanibus4764 ok so u didnt watch the video then because what i said is one of the things they talked about and destiny's position was that he didnt care much without more info on the situation (its literally the first 20 seconds of the vid)
The crazy thing to me is people think kids under 17 don’t have the ability to consent to sexting, but they can consent to changing their body and making permanent changes to it.
They arent kids either. They can consnet as can anyone 14 or 15. If you wanna look into interesting research look up "teen brain myth" or "lifespan wisdom model"
Maybe because one forces you to go through YEARS of therapy and the other is just a bad decision and could have an affect on their mental without them even knowing it could happen. Say you don't know what you're talking about without saying it lmao
Bro backpedaled so hard he went around to enemy territory.
XQC using Schrödingers legal argument. It’s both a legal argument and moral argument at the same time
33 minutes in and Destiny still hasn't asked why 18. xQc is so sheepish that he just posits whatever the law is = moral.
The reason its 18 is just historical and has always changed. Its arbitrary and not a marker for anything objective.
@@mariomario1462 you're literally the reason why the age of consent should be 21 or 25 at this point. I've seen you in like every comment with a reply and everything you've said is actually braindead lmaoo I don't think you can even consent, not because of age but because you don't actually understand why the age of consent exists lmao
@@mariomario1462 It's about asking xQc... To see why he thinks what he thinks. Not suggesting he asks so that xQc can explain to all of us as if he'd enlighten us....
Xqc is the perfect example of the type of person you physically cannot have these conversations with. He's dominated by his emotions and how he needs to virtue signal.
I really could not understand why Turkey Tom hated XQC at first. Now I get it.
Someone should tell X that when Taylor Swift was 23 she dated a 17 year old... just saying
Which is fine. That's how consent works. Not feelings
@@mariomario1462 whoosh
@@sophisticatedbear3374? I'm just pointing it out
When I was 21 I dated a 17 year old and weirdos on the internet said I was a predator and a pdf. Not one person in my real life, including the girls parents, gave a shit about our age gap.
Haha xqc is so confident while obviously not being able to follow. How does he not realize he isnt understanding......
Cuz he’s actually really truly stupid. Unbelievably truly stupid.
Xqc rebuttle techniques for when he's completely lost like an idiot:
1. OHHHHhhh
2. HUhhhh??
3. Watttt???
4. I sEe wHaT uR dOing heRe
They could do this one a week, call it a podcast, and get an insane bag for this. Be honest, whenever these 2 talk you watch the entire thing.
"Under my world view it's wrong because society.. or science... or whatever the fuck doesn't agree with it" my what a worlview
Yeah XQC is really lacking in critical thinking analysis to comparing concepts through analogies. D WAS MAKING PERFECT SENSE. he operates more in a gray area and X is just black and white.
To protect my child I'm going to not tell them about the armed robber downstairs. They arent ready to know about them
Bro what 😂 is the implications here that you'd let your kid get molested so that they're aware of the dangers of pedophiles??
27:57 XQC doesn’t know what examples or false equivalences are
I know xqc has always been r worded, but jesus. What happened? Is he losing clout, so he decided to try and go at the throat of tiny? Did he get some debate pervert wins recently so he thought he could throw down?
17 year old can’t make that decision to sleep with an older person but if you’re 12 you can get hormone replacement therapy. And I am not saying that a 17 year old should be able to have sex with a 30 year old but I am just pointing out the hypocrisy.
xqc is a leftist freak, yes
That's not hypocritical. The reason you don't want minors having sex with adults is because of the physical and mental harm that might occur. On the other hand, hormone therapy doesn't physically hurt minors instead it is used to help minors physically or mentally.
@@Kardurst9789 I see part of your point. Can you elaborate? Serious question. I come in peace. Cheers my friend
@@PA1NK1LLER which part don't you understand? Do I need to explain why full grown adults having sex with 12 year olds is dangerous, why grooming any minors can leave psychological pain? Or is it the fact hormone replacement therapy doesn't hurt minors?
@@PA1NK1LLER which part do you need more info on. Minors having sex with adults being potentially dangerous or minors taking hormone replacement therapy not being dangerous?
"No it's fine officer, my juicer said drunk driving isn't a big deal"
XCQ is 100% hung up on destiny's phrasing it as "i don't care that much"
If destiny just said "I think it's bad, but without more information i'm not going to get super worked up over it" then i don't think he causes XQC's brain to malfunction.
He did say that at the beginning.
He literally said stuff like that several times. XQC just got brain broken.
Well destiny wasn’t saying it, but what he was actually getting at when he said he doesn’t care is that he really doesn’t think it’s bad at all.
Destiny definitely strongly implied he thinks it’s fine for 17 year olds to hookup with anyone over the age of 18 as long as they consent. Curious where he draws the line.
@@GovnaBuckinghamwhat? Lol
Knowing that Doc is in his 40s and this girl is only described as a minor, so 17 at the oldest, yes actually that is pretty fucked up. I could understand Destiny's argument if he was in his early 20s maybe, but that isnt the case.
I live in a country where the age of consent is 16 and every single time I've heard of 16-17 year olds hooking up with middle aged men, its always been the most miserable, exploitative, fucked up situation I've ever heard in my life. I think Destiny definitely should care.
Nah he shouldnt until the logs leak. Ever heard of the president of france. Also, cant really argue with a youtube comment section anecdote.
I agree with you. They are very much explotative.
Yeah X should have focused on that instead of whatever tangent he went on. The 2 time champ is a known cheater, is significantly older, and has very significant social and monetary power. The probability that he is in that gray zone of consent and not the red is very low
I've had family who married or dated older men young, the age of consent is 16 and they are very happy to this day. I have a large family and they were actively in their lives. Think it's just based on the situations, if the dude is an abuser then yeah it will be bad.
Do I personally support the idea, not necessarily but to an extent if both parties are consenting then who could I really say in this case. From my knowledge the men who married my younger cousins had wives who past during child birth or left them and their kids for younger men so I can't really glean a complete motive.
Wrong, Guy Beam was in his mid 30s when he talked to the minor. Do the math.
Xqc is so clearly virtue signaling because he is seeing how fucked DrDisrespect and NickMercks got from all of that. He sounds like Nickisnotgreen or some other soy content creator who doesn't engage at all with the question and just says the thing that is the most acceptable socially.
Xqc just rant his unintelligble gibberish. I understand half of it at best. His loss in 6 moves in the chess game against Charlie should be enough evidence about his cognitive abilites
I watched this live and it was awful, better than Finklestien but still.
I'd pay to see Norm beat his ass again
X understands the dangers talking to minors becuz his chat is all minors.
I don’t even understand X’s first point. Literally everyone is voting and in favor of making things more beneficial for them.
I love these two when they get into convos like these lmfao
Destiny with some absolute L takes and XQC with the worst argumentation of all time is like the negaverse version of the unstoppable force and the immovable object
"So XQC how many drugs are you on"
Yes.
Dude's on something there's no way this is a normal thoughtpattern for a person
Way too much Adderall
He has taken all the drugs.
the fact destiny sat through this conversation is a test of true mental fortitude.
Honestly going through cancer discussions like age of consent can a great workout for your mental fortitude, your patience.
I don't think that I've ever laughed to what chat is saying ever
35:29 "held back 30 years" i'm fkin dying
xQc: "Ooooh! I get it!"
*proceeds to demonstrate he doesn't get it AT ALL*
Xqc acts like every 17 year old will be talking about their hello kitty backpacks, and talking about how excited they are to lose their virginity, you cant always tell how mature and old a person is, when i was 16 i was doing coke with my friend group
How is this not a main channel post
I haven’t laughed this hard in a while. This was absolutely wild.
23:49 I really don’t get Xqc’s point here, trauma from sex can happen with the same age, it being an older person doesn’t change anything, the act is still traumatic
X dug his grave from the very first words that came out of his mouth about being a conservative and supporting Trump. That’s the best way to make destiny insta-mald
I'm like 90% sure he was joking
Big shoutout to the sponsor of the stream, Mr. Girl.
2 hour video with no timestamps…
It's all just trying to pick up the pieces of what x says, nothing to really timestamp lol
Can someone create a list of timestamps to all the times XQC got cooked? I counted at LEAST 15 different times
My fav parts are when xqc disagrees with destiny and then gives an argument that agrees with one of destiny's points.
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is how the special Olympics was born.
Xqc is definitely compensating. 😅 he'll be next on the whisper logs.
liked before the ad even finished before the vid started
Bro I just found out that my gf of 5 years was gr*pd by me bc she was 17 and I was 19. Turning myself in 💔
Underage people should probably not be having sex with anyone. But if they do, yes, there are degrees of danger and potential harm done. And yes, the higher the age difference, the higher the danger and potential harm that could be done are. The whole age of consent thing is somewhat arbitrary, but that's simply because we have to draw the line somewhere. In reality, the age of consent very much differs from person to person. There are plenty of 16 year olds who could be having sex knowing fully well what they are doing. But then there are loads of 25 year olds who are still not mentally capable of dealing with sexual relationships. You can't take this into account when writing laws, though. So funny enough, the old rule of marriage being the deciding factor kinda removes most of the problem, because when you're capable of entering a marriage with someone you're almost certainly mentally prepared to have a sexual relationship with that person. There's a reason civilizations used this rule for thousands of years and the moment we removed the rule things got wildly complicated.
That's his point. The reality is it's fluid, not a straight thing a law can cover absolutely. We can agree it's a good law, but also submit it's not entirely sensible, otherwise everyone would agree.
Really, if you wanted people to be fully mature and make arguments about mentality/abuse the minimum age would be 25 when our brains are fully developed, but it's interesting how noone is interested in that.
marriage was imposed as a political tool and was not completely up to will of the females under a patriarchal society. so that logic is very flawed as they were not prepared if someone else was making that decision for them bc we all know that even family won't always make the best decisions for you especially when wealth and power come into play and a daughter is just another chip to play and gamble with. I completely disagree with the latter half of your statements.
@@aweshumandy That's a gross misunderstanding of how things went in the past, lol. Don't let weird arranged marriages between royalty in certain cases throughout history be the lens through which you look at the way 99.99% of people lived. Also, be careful you don't let feminist revisionist history influence your understanding either.
I can only speak based on what I've witnessed. At 13, two of my classmates were already doing it regularly (not with one another). They both looked much older. At 16 (in a different school), one of my classmates started dating a 30 year old (they eventually got married). At 17, another classmate began dating a 30 year old. For the record, both of these girls had fully developed bodies since they were 15. Girls in particular mature really fast. As a general rule it should not be encouraged, but it's also not the end of the world when it happens.
@@nightelfuser Physical maturity has nothing to do with brain development and mental/emotional maturity.
Ahhhh… The two ends of Twitch’s political spectrum; Destiny and Hasan
And xQc farming their socially inept viewers every couple months while they flock to his stream to call him dumb.
A timeless classic
Today i learned from xQc: Its okey to date people as long as they have wheels.
Does someone have the Number of Megatron?
Stop the virtue signaling, I bet there are 16 y.o girls that can make X sign 2 McLarens on their names. He needs a trip to the glue factory
X is appealing to law, but the majority of first world countries laws are between 14-16 (looking at Europe, East Asia, Aust and NZ). The majority of third world countries are 18-21 (Africa, Middle East, etc).
America is an exception in being a first world country with the age of 18, it is not the norm.
And no, there is not special "close in age" addendums to these, it works like any other normal aoc.
Isn't it 16 in many states in the US? By Age of Consent?
Eh when you say 18-21 i dont think you are being entierly honest. Kenya for example has regions where age of consent is 11 and some regions where its 18 (Africa has average age of consent=16). Iran age of consent is 13. Saudi Arabia has no age of consent just marriage laws, so you can marry a 9 year old and if a court says this marriage is in the childs best interest then yeah, its legal... The middle east has average age of consent at 15.5 years. Europe has average age of consent= 16, Asia has average consent=15.5. So Europe, the middle east, Africa and Asia all pretty much have the same age of consent on average. There is however a huge distinction because in many parts of the Middle East and Africa you can get married off to an adult, which can nullify age of consent.
@Mas-ij3ti thank you, multiple Muslim countries have it set that child brides can start whenever they're "developed" which is clear and demonstrable r*pe
(Nothing against Muslims, the mass majority aren't like this and haven't been for a very very long time)
@@Mas-ij3ti What are your sources? Kenya is 18 across the board from what I see. Iran has a law that states you simply have to be married, and the average age of marriage in Iran for a woman is 25. Saudis are the same, but the minimum age for marriage in Saudi Arabia is 18.
For some specific first world examples: Germany, Austria and Italy are 14, France, Sweden and Monaco is 15, Britain, Norway, China, Hong Kong, Korea, Australia and NZ are all 16.
There is a very obvious trend in terms of laws.
I didn't know how much I needed this convo ahaha
That rant at around 37:00 is epic because it's so loud, unhinged but very coherent
why are destiny fans acting like xqc isnt the mainstream opinion on this matter and not quirky wacky one like they claim
I agree. Destiny was being painfully pedantic here. The first whole hour they were just arguing bc Destiny never defined what he meant by “don’t care.”
@@scarletsletter4466 You can infer what he meant by "don't care" from the fact that he agrees with the law at the beginning of the debate yet still says he doesn't care, he's clearly referring to morals, what else could he be referring to?
Nothing destiny said stuck in x’s brain, you’d be able to ask him about this exact conversation next week and he will have no idea what you’re talking about.
Where’s Sneako in this conversation to tell us it’s all ok as long as she’s a developed age.
X is doing the craziest mental gymnastics to justify why at 18, someone instantly becomes conscious and mentally competent.
The day they turn 18 they magically obtain the ability to navigate the social nuances of the world, a skillset they didn’t have the day before. They instantly get psychic abilities that help ward off the frenzy of 19 year olds knocking down the door to take advantage of them 😂
This warms my heart, XQC has been winning too much lately & been too reasonable. Now this XQC is the XQC I know & refuse to watch lmao
He literally can't keep track of his claims or what the conversation even is.
I also hate people who code switch like this. Not caring personally is not the same as society caring, social norms, or advocating for the law or morality to be changed.
This isn't as bad as Shapiro code switching on the definition of "time" but still very dumb.
XQC is literally an embodiment in this conversation for why pedo hunting & pedo manufacturing are such a booming cottage industry.
this might be the craziest convo ive ever heard
I love these type of debates
ok gamers, 2 minutes ago? this is epic
We're not beating the pedo allegations with this one boys
Like I wish he would just not try to die on the hill about justifying hooking up with an underage girl because apparently if 2 17 year old hook up then she free game with anyone regardless of age
this is a stupid ass take. The thing none of them mention is that there is a difference between an adult and kid. 17 is a fucking kid. Two 17 year olds fucking is just children experimenting. Their brains arent even developed. and putting all that aside, but just the idea of a 40 year old, rich, celebrity, married man with children, fucking a fan is ridiculous and creepy as fuck. What is he downplaying it?
The reason is because Steven is another 40 year old creep that be talking to underage fans. 40 year old redditor that be marrying barely 18 girls who look 16.
@@Weeniewarrior15 not his take
@@Weeniewarrior15you managed to listen to him speak and somehow come away with the exact point he was making
whats the timestamp for when they debate about children under the age of 12? Because that is what that word means
love when steven drops f&f talking points he’s completely deconstructed, when he’s trying to make an argument