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I just re-roofed a house here in the UK. We took off the Welsh slates, recycled the lead ridges, valleys and hips, and then reused the slates back onto the roof, with a loss of about 20%, which we sourced reclaimed slates to make up. This is pretty normal procedure in the UK. you can expect up to 200 years service from quality slates and other traditional roofing tiles. Those shingles are only deemed fit for garden buildings in the UK, I've always thought it odd how they're used for houses in north America.
This just highlights why metal or tile roof products are better. Yes, they're more expensive up front, but they last longer, are more durable, and are easier to recycle at end-of-life. Bonus is that metal and tile are non-combustible (unlike asphalt shingles) so safer in fire prone areas like the Southwest.
oh trust me, american culture is just arbitrarily wasteful. Remember all the trends we had where people just take a newly installed counter top or flooring just to entirely destroy it just so it fit a new trend?
Asphalt shingles are fire proof too, And Metal and tile arent always the answer. Tile sucks in the snow for obvious reasons due to expansion and contraction. Metal also sucks in the snow. Since metal has less friction than asphalt, snow more easily gives way, and tears up the roof. So expect to replace metal panels yearly. Also the gaskets on your screws wear out. At some point you're gonna need to replace the roof or at least the screws. Your gaskets won't last much longer than an asphalt roof would. The point I'm getting at is metal and tile aren't the end all be all of roofs.
@@bravo________87372 Well I don't know anything about the snow part since I live in a warm climate. I haven't done research on that. But I do know that asphalt shingles definitely are NOT fireproof. Very few materials are. Asphalt shingles come in 3 different grades (Classes A, B, and C). Class C asphalt shingles have a fire resistance similar to plywood...not good. Class B are about as fire-resistant as treated cedar wood shingles and would be considered non-flammable. Only Class A asphalt shingles are considered non-combustible. And non-combustible still isn't the same as fireproof. As I said before, very few materials are actually fireproof. Most things will burn if the fire is hot enough. And even things that don't burn will melt or otherwise be structurally compromised. It might seem like I'm nitpicking, but when wildfires can burn at temperatures higher than 1,400 degrees Fahrenheit and move at a top speed of 14 miles/hour, it's not nitpicking to consider the difference between flammable, combustible, and fireproof.
I used to work at a wood recycling plant, we would grind up pallet scraps and solid wood and turn it into colored mulch. And we tried to get outside sources (construction sites etc) for our materials, had big "wood only" signs painted on the dumpsters and we would still get processed wood and tons of trash constantly so we never took the dumpster back. Until the the people that put the stuff in the containers start to care, it will never change.
We live in a culture of ease and throw-away...so change is unlikely anytime soon. The town i live in is small, and in town there is garbage and recycling pick up but for those outside of town limits there is a place to bring in recycling. There used to be an attendant there but i assume he died of stress, or was fired for screaming at idiot patrons, or murdered someone. There are signs about how one should manage cardboard (break it down) and what goes in recycling cans (glass, plastic, etc)...no one follows the rules. People cram the cardboard dumpsters full of unbroken down cardboard and only in the front, no one goes to the back of the dumpster to dump (i do). There is regularly non-recyclable stuff there like toilets or kid's strollers. No one cares, everyone is super lazy.
I am a general contractor and you best believe we don't have any junk in our scrap metal dumpsters. If I see people throwing trash in them they can either pick all trash out or pay for the dump fee since the recycler doesn't want it (about $1400) and knowing that an entire paycheck could be wasted by 1 cup is great incentive.
@@randomvideosn0where that's the biggest problem with the whole recycling system, the only place there is incentive to recycle is metal everything else is on a make yourself feel good system. I know there is no value in cardboard anymore and hasn't been really any in glass/plastic or wood. So until there is an incentive for people to actually do something like on your sites nothing will change.
In my country we use ceramic ou cement shingles, they last 2 or 3 generations with no maintenance. My dad has ceramic roof in his 60 years old house, no leaks, no maintenance at all.
@Moo but still too expensive than some countries that use Concrete and steel construction , Like here in india ,You can make a 2500 square feet Concrete house in $45000 if you own a land with all plumping and electricals and it will easily last for next 70-100 years
@@priscillajimenez27 i don't think its got very good insulation properties tbh so probably doesn't keep you warm or cold. But would be nice if they did!
im glad i replaced my asphalt with tin last year (actually it covers the old asphalt) looks so much nicer and will last a lifetime. i noticed in the last few years that so many homes here in the midwest are switching to steel. it helps that steel is about the same price as asphalt now.
I prefer metal honestly, it has its drawbacks but when my roof is up to be replaced I can recycle the metal at a scrap yard or repurpose it and avoid the landfill.
@Steve L Ya, it doesnt grip but I still prefer it, I put it up and I still remmember the scratches and crap from asphalt shingles, metal was always a better experience for me even if I slipped on the slippery slopes a few times. Some other stuff tho, if you don't secure it right it will tear off and unlike a shingle, a sheet of metal in the wind is just a wind thrown knife. On top of that, it last ages but the coating wears off so you still have to recoat it every once and a while. Tho that is just maintenance stuff. The only drawback I can think of that may be a deal breaker is heavy rain and hail it can be rather loud.
one thing that always amazes me with landfill, is they don't sort it prior. if it was somewhat sorted then it could be dug up for use when there is a way to process it better in future.
Agreed, in some cases, landfills have a higher concentration of aluminium than Bauxite. i.e. the primary ore for aluminium, so there’s a lot of money to be made in sorting that stuff.
To an extent, I've replaced roofs that got tore up from storms, especially that derrecho that blew through a few years back, bottom line is, you get what you pay for(or rather should, always some shady folks looking to pull one over)
In the UK asphalt shingles are totally unheard of. Most homes use natural slate. Others use other manufactured roof tiles but never asphalt shingles. And we probably in our lifetime never ever have to replace a roof other than minor repairs. Asphalt shingles seem so backwards and crude. They look cheap and nasty.
Its subjective. In America, asphalt shingles are more cost effective and more desirable aesthetically. The fasteners for "screw down" metal roofing are only warenteed for 8 to 10 years so that's the downside to the vast majority of metal roofing. Standing seam is superior but much more costly and low income areas rarely get standing seam. It's also Super hard to separate asphalt shingles from the tar paper, "ice and water", or synthetic underlayment when removing old shingles (I started out in construction with roofing and I've torn off more roofs then I wish I had.) I'm down for renewable alternatives but the market dictates what the average home owner can afford/has access to. I Love standing seam metal roofing and it's my preferred. Hopefully we will get there
@@leozmaxwelljilliumz3360 low income in the US does not match low income anywhere else, and almost everyone uses tile, so something is definitely wrong there
Question. How do they hold up to 120 mph winds? The gulf, Atlantic coasts, and Southern US get yearly hurricanes. Architectural shingles have a 130 or more mph rating. And they do hold up.
We do it with used tires as well... but as a leading expert in waste management I can assure you if you incentivized the recycling of these products more and more people would do it. But almost anywhere you go landfills and transfer stations charge EXTRA to recycle these types of items. This would dramatically reduce green house gases, but also contribute to companies ie earning carbon credits, reduce road costs, and provide many other perks. Incentivize companies like Waste Management and Republic to provide the recycling process and we will see a HUGE positive change in how trash and emissions are handled.
The real question is "should we"? I dont believe any group has executed a full lifecycle assessment of emissions of landfill shingles vs recycled shingles. As humans we don't always think things through all the way. Recycling of plastics is one of those things. We actually release more emissions via plastic recycling due to it being so much more involved and complicated to do. We'd actually release less CO2 overall if we just stopped all plastic recycling all together. I suspect the same might be true of asphalt shingle recycling. Here's the thing. Asphalt is one of the cheapest and easiest to manufacture materials around. It's mostly just bitumin, a byproduct of oil refining, and gravel usually sourced locally. Because of all the additional steps required to turn roof shingles into a useable product for road asphalt, I would guess it might be better for the environment to just bury it in the ground. Landills get an undeserved bad rep and stigma, when in fact sometimes, underground can be the best place for a lot of the things we throw away. Think about these paper straws and how much more energy is used up trying to create these crappy replacements for perfectly good straws all because of some stupid sea turtle video. You can look this up and verify for yourself that we actually created a worse problem environmentally by banning plastic straws. Humans need to use their analytical brains for more thinking and less emotions.
@@johnjingleheimersmith9259 the whole point is that it WILL lower emissions and have less negative effects on the environment. Rather than mining and producing more raw materials, which emits more GHGs. Plastic recycling is also quite lucrative and healthier for the environment as well. I think they're paying nearly $1,500/mTon for PE plastics. Done through systems that don't emit hardly ANY CO2. So I'm not sure where you're pulling your sources, but that aside; if you don't see trash island in the middle of the ocean that can be seen from outer space as being an issue then you should probably do a little more homework. In fact if it wasn't healthier and more profitable truthfully they wouldn't do it. Same goes for cardboard recycling. Regardless, let's say it does emit more emissions, it's still healthier for the environment. Do you know how much emissions and effects landfills have on the environment? Let me guess you think we shouldn't properly dispose of freon, lead or mercury as well (ie electronics)? Where are you drawing the line for your moral highground? I think you should research the innovative breakthroughs on things like straws and chopsticks. And how they are developing a whole new sustainable manufacturing process for certain goods.
@@johnjingleheimersmith9259 I'm actually curious where you get the information that recycling is worse for the environment than simply landfilling them? Everything I have read indicates the opposite. Did your data take into account contamination and environmental factors, or land use, or the need to replace the product that is being discarded?
@@CameronsCandorOriginal I'm talking mainly about hard to recycle items which includes most plastics but also shingles if you think about it. When looking at the whole value chain, the consultancy Deloitte estimated in a study published in 2015 that it takes 30 additional jobs to recycle plastic compared with burning unsorted waste or landfilling. And petro companies actually created and marketed the whole "recycling" thing as we know it today as a way to deceive consumers and rebuild the image of plastics as a whole which was flagging back in the 80s and 90s. They even created the chasing arrows logo you see on plastic packaging everywhere when in-fact most of the plastic types are not recycled in any locales in the US and will not even be accepted in the recycling centers if you tried to give it to them. The emphasis on "recycling" and de-emphasis on "reduce" and "reuse" was purposeful and the petro companies did many assessments, some of which predicted that recycling as we view it today could never become a cost effective exercise. So should we be spending time and energy (real energy mind you - Carbon energy) - in collecting virtually useless materials, processing them, and in doing so making things even less efficient, because the less efficient anything is, the more CO2 we are expending.
@@antoniomromo Be aware that everything you have read probably uses clever accounting tricks and is paid for by the oil industry to make it greenwashed. Plastic recycling is way more of a scam industry than you think.
How many homes are being built in a year there? Not trying to brag but the US built 1.5 million last year and by some estimates were falling short of keeping up with the demand. They use those asphault shingles bc theyre are cheap and fast to lay.
The asphalt company I work for in Washington state process the shingles from start to finish! We use far less petroleum products to make asphalt when we couple recycled asphalt with the recycled roofing shingles!
There have been studies that the roads made with used tires are creating a run off of chemicals whenever it rains. Currently being looked into how it may affect salmon but it could lead to more information in general.
Anything Petro based will have toxic runoff..., Hell, even gravel technically pollutes watershed's, the silt that washes down taints the water, it's all in how you look at it.
Always used old shingles as a base layer on a gravel road, definitely don't wanna take your ride down it until you've had some tracks run it down and drop a topping layer of aggregate down.
As someone who works with asphalt plants, the plants have to test each batch of shingles for asbestos. Additionally, while many plants do have the option to use shingles, not that many actually do.
Where I live it is very rare to find places that use something other than clay tiles on their roofs. They're very resistant and last decades with little to no maintenance. They can be recycled and if one tile breaks it's easy to fix. Cheap and sustainable as it should be :)
I would love love love if business insider did stories about companies like that startup that left a large pile of roofing waste. I’m not against recycling at all, I just think that it is very interesting. A lot of people think that startups like that can do no harm, when in fact, they had good intentions but left a massive mess
If we want to switch away from asphalt shingles we need to increase our trade schools. Shingles are easier to install and don’t require a lot of training or equipment. most roofing problems can be traced back to poor installation quality, metal and tile are some of the most difficult steep slope roofs to install.
Plenty of trade schools exist (in the US) but the Department of Education and Universities have been running a grift for years telling EVERYONE that they NEED to got to University or they will never succeed, and that only "dumb" people do trade work.
Why not motive home owners to use ceramic tiles instead? they are so much better in every way and every other country apart from the US seems to understand this.
@@Lolopozzadad i install standing seem metal roofs bro. those can breath if you know how to install it right... however i agree the the corrugated roofs suck... but i install standing seem and ive proven to the home owners with a laser temperature reader their attic temperatures before and after a metal roof...(metal reflects heat way more than shingles) its a 20 degree difference .. that saves you money with the air conditioning bill here in texas and they agree
@@juancarlosnegron2358 unfortunatly you are right, most of the times the insurance helps them pay for it... but 50 percent of the time im able to convince them to upgrade to standing seem metal roofs because it reflects heat better and they waste less electricty trying to cool the house
Im happy that shingle company decided to update their page for clarity. Its very likely the initial project was given to underpaid interns and then never reviewed past initial posting.
Or perhaps gathering the information of who's currently doing recycling was a tedious process, so the page wasn't updated frequently until Business Insider reporters brought it up to the company.
I hate legislation that adds to the cost of a home, but asphalt shingles are a blight on the environment. They should only allow asphalt shingles that are rated for 50 years or greater. This should encourage people to look at alternative roofing methods. Here in Colorado we have many hail storms. Roofs get replaced more like at a 10 year cycle, so the amount of waste is tremendous here
It's never going to be regulated by legislation. Do you know what a square of shingles in 30yr warranty costs? About 145$ a square depending where you are in the country and where you buy them from some manufacturers cost more than others. Personally Certainteed Pinnacle is the only brand I'd recommend they also happen to be the most expensive. A 50 yr shingle doesn't last 50 yrs especially if you live in a region that has bad inclement weather. Then you have to realize every house no matter which direction its facing has a weather side, which means you'll be replacing at the very least that section of the roof before the guarantee is up. And forget about the manufacturer upholding their guarantee on their shingle if you have to replace due to weather deterioration.
@@Thatsme849 if the solution was that simple yes absolutely. However it's not. The problem is more complex than that. When a typical person thinks about roofing products what's the first thing that comes to mind? When you drive down any street in America and look up at any particular house what's the most common type of roofing you see? Then there's the accessibility issue shingles are more readily available than any other roofing product. Then there is costs typically shingles are cheaper than other roofing solutions. So the answer to the problem isn't so clear cut as using product A to product B.
@@juancarlosnegron2358 I know it will not be easy but that is never a good reason to give up on something is it? And somehow it works just fine for the rest of the world. Even the poorest of the poor in Europe have ceramic tiles and probably in other parts of the worlds as well - or at least metal roofs or something of the kind
Repent and follow Jesus my friend! Repenting doesn't mean confessing your sins to others, but to stop doing them altogether. Belief in Messiah alone is not enough to get you into heaven - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36). Contemplate how the Roman empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13. Revelation 17 confirms that it is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years to accomplish the religion of the Israelites C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate though because you can start a relationship with God and have proof. Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life. - Revelation 3:20 Revelation has been unfolding since Jesus died. The Popes have claimed to be equal to God and set themselves in Jesus' place (antichrist(s)). Vatican City (Which is its own nation BTW) have risen up to fulfill the role of the false prophet Regarding the man of lawlessness or antichrist, 2 Thessalonians 2:4 says “Who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sits in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.” The restrainer that the Apostle Paul was referring to in 2 Thessalonians was the Western Roman Emperor, who held back the Popes from taking power. Once the last Western Roman Emperor was removed from power in 476 AD, the Pope was given civil and ecclesiastic authority over Rome; healing the deadly head wound of the beast in Revelation 13, as they took the Emperors title of Pontifex Maximus, leader of the church and state. “We may according to the fullness of our power, dispose of the law and dispense above the law. Those whom the Pope of Rome doth separate, it is not a man that separates them but God. For the Pope holdeth place on earth, not simply of a man but of the true God.” (Source: “Decretals of Gregory IX,” Book 1, chapter 3.) Pope Pius V blasphemed, “The Pope and God are the same, so he has all power in Heaven and earth.” (Source: Pope Pius V, quoted in Barclay, Cities Petrus Bertanous Chapter XXVII: 218.) Pope Leo XIII declared, “We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty.” (Source: Pope Leo XIII Encyclical Letter, June 20, 1894) The antichrist sea beast of Revelation points to the office of the papacy, the Popes of Rome, who controlled the Roman beast for 1,260 years, from 538-1798 AD. Daniel 7:25 says “And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.” The Popes of Rome spoke against Elohim and proclaimed to be God. They reigned for 1,260 years, from 538-1798 AD. during which they caused tens of millions of saints to be killed. The Pope’s title is Vicar of Christ, which in Latin is ‘Vicarius Filii Dei’, and equates numerically to the number 666
Welcome to America. Our entire culture is based on throw away consumerism. Been a contractor for 25 years. Every once in a while I can convince someone to go for metal, but by and large people only look at upfront costs, not lifetime cost. Both my houses have slate roofs. Lifetime should be at least 4 times an asphalt roof. And guess what, labor and materials cost will continue to rise. I would be willing to wager that the price to reroof your house in 30 years will be more than the extra cost to put a quality roof on now.
Well said friend, in the UK we use nothing but slate/clay/concrete tiles, the gear can last hundreds of years and is most definitely more cost effective and sustainable. But consumerism is finding its way into other aspects of our life, making things to last as long as possible is a thought of the past it seems, very unfortunate circumstances we find ourselves in. I'm curious are your houses timber frame or brick built?
@@tepidbudgie my primary home, that I built myself, the ground level walls are concrete with 2x4 sister walls for mechanical and insulation. The 2nd and 3rd floors are standard 2x6 with 5" of closed cell foam. The roof is standard 2x10 with 7-8" of closed cell. My second home is circa 1850 and the walls are 22" solid stone with timber frame roof. Currently just fiberglass ceiling insulation, but renovations are planned.
@@BondJFK support you mean roof trusses? Here in Malaysia it's hardwood or steel.we use metal roofing,cement tiles or terracotta.we don't have have asphalt shingles here.however in Indonesia our next door neighbour do have asphalt shingle roofing but it's unpopular.makes me wonder why Americans love to use low quality stuff for housing
We do use a similar tar & fine stone particle covered type of paper (a.k.a Roofing Felt) in the UK, but that is only usually used on very cheap flat roofs or garden sheds. On domestic houses, it's a mix of stone (very old buildings)/slate/ceramic/concrete tiles in various designs to suit the local area.
Every hail storm there are hundreds of people getting their roof repaired because contracts convince people that their shingles are destroyed and that "insurance will cover it all". What a huge massive scam. My neighbor's house has been reshingled twice in 5 years and 5 other houses have had new shingles in the last three years all because of hail the size of a small grape. It's pathetic because there is nothing wrong with my shingles that I installed 10 years ago
Asbestos isn't "poisonous" it's hazardous. Poisonous implies a chemical reaction, but asbestos is not chemically reactive with the human body. It causes physical damage in your lungs, creating scar tissue that can develop into cancer, it also can build up physically in your lungs mixing with mucus and reducing the ability to breathe. But none of that is a poisonous interaction.
Don't try to sound too smart feller... Be very careful with your terminology as it's faulted logic you're using, you are correct under most circumstances, there is always that exception, as you even said it yourself in your explanation. Tell me again what cancer is? And how and why asbestos causes some types including mesothelioma, because I'm fairly certain that mutations of cells undergo some reactions, granted it's a bit more advanced then what you pick up not actually going to school and studying it, you know as compared to being a TH-cam expert.
@@kevinfreeman3098 It’s not known as to how asbestos fibres actually mutate genes. There are three main theories, two of which I would describe as a reaction with asbestos and factors in your body. They believe that asbestos may be generating reactive oxygen species (like O^2-) through reactions with tissue and fluid found in the lungs, which may be causing mutations. They also believe that tiny asbestos fibres may be adsorbing to macromolecular structures like DNA and rendering the genetic data unreadable. The final hypothesis is that just the presence of asbestos fibres is causing cells alone to release certain chemicals resulting in genotoxicity. They all sound quite plausible to me, however this area of research is not mine nor am I familiar with it. I do agree with you, technically speaking asbestos is poisonous (or is possibly poisonous however to label it this would be confusing to those who do not care about the minute and complicated interactions of asbestos fibres with the human body), however it all boils down to whatever regulation you use. CLP is arguably the largest and most widely accepted, which simply replaces the word dangerous with hazardous as part of the regulation making the original commenters comment pointless anyway, yes it’s hazardous but yes it is also poisonous. However the CLP reg. doesn’t use the term “poisonous” anyway and is instead replaced with toxic like basically every other regulation in the world, and by its very definition, asbestos is undeniably toxic. So the original commenters comment is actually just entirely wrong!
amazing idea of recycling garbage... hoping that it will succeed to lesson the plastic pollution in our places in different areas of the world.. more power to this men
I'm still trying to wrap my head around replacement roofs. I distinctly remember massive storms rolling through as a kid. Once in a while a roof would get replaced as a result. Today I can have a moderate storm come through, and the area just gets swarmed with inspectors. Somehow my 30 year roof didn't make it a year and needs replaced. I've built lots of structures. I inspect the roof... don't see jack that warrants a full replacement.
Always gets me mad to see how badly humans fail at circular economy. It's not just companies and governments - also the private households; e. g. home owners with a garden but no compost, which rather send their biodegradable waste in plastic bags to the landfill. 🤯 Not a care in the world resp. for the environment.
Just burying garbage to me is a joke. How can that be ok? Burn it for energy I say. Burn it all. Way way better than what's happening. They can use scrubbers to clean the byproduct smoke.
Here in the phil(part where I live)we don’t have this SHINGLES, so i was shock that it was called shingles instead of roof slabs or something. Kind of letting me imagine something different every time it was mention.
I painted my shingle roof with elastomeric white stucco paint that I got for free and my utility bill went down. I also saved 10 grand by not having to get a new roof. Also my shingles stopped degrading.
Theres an easy solution to Recycling. Pass a law requirement that all products that are made need to have a design plan for its Recycling. It has to be 100% Recyclable or the Product cannot be sold. Milk used to be in Glass, why dont we do that now? You could go to the store to buy more milk and drop off the old glass out front of the shop. Standard containers would also be helpful. So there are only 10 shapes so they can just be cleaned and refilled witout needing to break the container and make a new container. Water Bottles, Tin Cans, Milk bottles and so on can all be a standard size no matter the company
my granpa was selling clay and glass rooftiles back then... i still remember tear my skin because of the corner of glass rooftile and should be run to hospital for 12 stich bring back so much memories
Paving asphalt and shingle asphalt are different “grades”. Shingle asphalt would not pass most paving requirements. The bricks are the same as the powder, it’s just easier to transport.
In Florida at least shingles have to be torn off and replaced well before their useful life is over for one big reason: insurance companies require it. If I get an asphalt shingle roof with a 50 year manufacturer warranty insurance companies will make me replace it in 15-25 years. That's not good in terms of preventing landfill waste. Shingles that last longer are a key to preventing waste.
If we're turning shingles into powder, could we add the powder to bricks or concrete during production? It would use up the "waste" and make the bricks and concrete "cleaner" in that they could use less material.
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I live in a area mostly tile roofs, expensive and wasteful. About the time to replace a asphalt roof too a tile roof underlayment which many tile roofs are dumped as high cost of labor to try and save them. So one pays for a whole new tile roof to save the labor cost. Asphalt is the better economical way to go
I'm getting shingles today - what? They can go into a road three states away? Well, I'll pack them in cardboard boxes and mail them there at my expense! Problem solved!
Louisiana roofer here. Yes this is possible, however there has been major failure rates in asphalt toped roads using recycled shingles as low as 9% base. We still need to refine the mix to find a long term solution.
Old shingles asphalt is aged causing it to be more brittle. A road sees a ton of traffic per day, a roof only sees weather. Thus paving asphalt has different requirements.
The long term solution is motivating homeowners to get ceramic tiles instead like everyone in Europe and other countries does. They are so much better in every way
@@Thatsme849 people here can barely afford a new roof, and when they do, most contractors use the cheaper stuff since it makes them more profit. But I agree with the use of non-asphalt roofs.
@@gotrod5432b Well then its time for the government to step in and put more taxes on shingles and less on more environmentally friendly options isn't it
All manufacturers need to take full responsibility and accept back for re-purposing all of their goods in a reverse supply chain. All of it, not a portion. And figure it out. In the meantime, charge 10x for landfilling, because landfilling is really not a feasible option. Incorporate circular thinking from the start!
The reason they’re hard to recycle is the same reason they don’t last… Why don’t we use things that we can’t get rid of like certain plastics or carbon to make something that we want to last forever? We had this problem of filling landfills for things that don’t last long, and then a similar problem of creating too much of things that last forever. Would it not make sense to use those things that last forever as building products then? There is so much corruption in the world today that it is absolutely impossible to make a good idea work. If I was to make it work they would condemn my home. Here in North Carolina if you have enough solar panels or hydroelectric to power your house you still have to pay the power company to be connected to their grid even though you can’t sell power back to the grid. It is in their perspective. It will never happen, but if you are truly “off grid“ your home can be condemned if it is not connected to the power grid here in North Carolina. That doesn’t sound like any step forward it sounds like lobbyists planting dead hookers in the trunks of legislators
Tile roofs last for ages and can be ground into concrete sand or gravel. Even if broken and dumped, they are non toxic as it just brick. But something to do with shingles if they fail to recycle is burning them. The US dumps much to much waste instead of having trash incenerators. Making energy from waste, if filtering smoke properly is efficient and fills landfills with a bit of ash instead of a mountain of filth.
I never quite understood why asphalt shingles are so popular, they break so easily they are very fragile, they never were up to the task of keeping a roof dry under any conditions other than ideal. Any other roof type even brush such seems to be better than Tarah and shingle I just don’t get it. There must be lobbyists involved because even though I’ve made plenty of money installing torn shingle roofs working construction for decades, they just don’t make sense at all they are garbage from the beginningf
No more so than the wood the home is made from. Most asphalt shingles will melt before catching fire, and if/when they do catch fire, you have more to worry about than your roofing material.
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I totaly understand using this stuff for roads, and roofs ect by why they hell arnt they making sheets of this stuff from recycled (end of life shingles) things like anti-weed sheets for gardens, expanded for noise pollution ect the uses are endless for some material's but not all are prone to be researched as it always comes down to "cost" why not give it schools and colleges to research with it would cost a lot less or even be free as we would be edialcatiin the future generation on how to avoids the mistakes before they are already done
Time has come to phase out of asphalt shingles and use better materials for this market. Just like wooden shingles there time is over. Metal shingles can be made in similar shape and sizes to take over where asphalt shingles are.
Multistorey houses G+3 are more environmental friendly. Less Heating & Cooling energy & pollution Less Construction Embodied energy Less Road construction & maintenance Less Daily travel & Utility cables More forests & Agriculture area instead of suburban sprawl
I was so surprised when i realised American homes dont use slate or terracotta tiles. Felting in the uk is cheap but it doesnt last. No home is roofed with felt tiles here unless its a flat roof extension or a garden shed.
Americans are not interested in things lasting. I'll be dead in 20 years. I really don't care what happens then. New houses are nicer than old ones are anyways. Which is why we build more houses in the USA than the entire rest of the world combined manages to build.
Here's an idea why not lend a hand to the solar shingles innovations ideas with the recycling process. And use a brighter color it can reduce the heat in the house as well.
Why not use better materials to create a better and cheaper product that last longer? Tar and shingle roofs don’t last at all they are not maintainable they’re expensive create excess heat don’t deal well with expansion or weather of any type. The drainage from these reeves fills water ways with toxic waste. Why not use something better to make something more durable? Like one of the products or buy products that is that we can’t get rid of? Anybody? Take a guess
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I just re-roofed a house here in the UK. We took off the Welsh slates, recycled the lead ridges, valleys and hips, and then reused the slates back onto the roof, with a loss of about 20%, which we sourced reclaimed slates to make up. This is pretty normal procedure in the UK. you can expect up to 200 years service from quality slates and other traditional roofing tiles. Those shingles are only deemed fit for garden buildings in the UK, I've always thought it odd how they're used for houses in north America.
This just highlights why metal or tile roof products are better. Yes, they're more expensive up front, but they last longer, are more durable, and are easier to recycle at end-of-life. Bonus is that metal and tile are non-combustible (unlike asphalt shingles) so safer in fire prone areas like the Southwest.
oh trust me, american culture is just arbitrarily wasteful. Remember all the trends we had where people just take a newly installed counter top or flooring just to entirely destroy it just so it fit a new trend?
Absolutely! I really dislike asphalt shingles, and put metal on my new shop. It's superior in nearly every way!
Asphalt shingles are fire proof too, And Metal and tile arent always the answer. Tile sucks in the snow for obvious reasons due to expansion and contraction. Metal also sucks in the snow. Since metal has less friction than asphalt, snow more easily gives way, and tears up the roof. So expect to replace metal panels yearly. Also the gaskets on your screws wear out. At some point you're gonna need to replace the roof or at least the screws. Your gaskets won't last much longer than an asphalt roof would. The point I'm getting at is metal and tile aren't the end all be all of roofs.
@@bravo________87372 Well I don't know anything about the snow part since I live in a warm climate. I haven't done research on that. But I do know that asphalt shingles definitely are NOT fireproof. Very few materials are. Asphalt shingles come in 3 different grades (Classes A, B, and C). Class C asphalt shingles have a fire resistance similar to plywood...not good. Class B are about as fire-resistant as treated cedar wood shingles and would be considered non-flammable. Only Class A asphalt shingles are considered non-combustible. And non-combustible still isn't the same as fireproof. As I said before, very few materials are actually fireproof. Most things will burn if the fire is hot enough. And even things that don't burn will melt or otherwise be structurally compromised.
It might seem like I'm nitpicking, but when wildfires can burn at temperatures higher than 1,400 degrees Fahrenheit and move at a top speed of 14 miles/hour, it's not nitpicking to consider the difference between flammable, combustible, and fireproof.
@@bravo________87372 Asphalt isnt fire proof, its a petroleum product that may have some fire resistance but ultimately will burn.
I used to work at a wood recycling plant, we would grind up pallet scraps and solid wood and turn it into colored mulch. And we tried to get outside sources (construction sites etc) for our materials, had big "wood only" signs painted on the dumpsters and we would still get processed wood and tons of trash constantly so we never took the dumpster back. Until the the people that put the stuff in the containers start to care, it will never change.
This.
We live in a culture of ease and throw-away...so change is unlikely anytime soon. The town i live in is small, and in town there is garbage and recycling pick up but for those outside of town limits there is a place to bring in recycling. There used to be an attendant there but i assume he died of stress, or was fired for screaming at idiot patrons, or murdered someone. There are signs about how one should manage cardboard (break it down) and what goes in recycling cans (glass, plastic, etc)...no one follows the rules. People cram the cardboard dumpsters full of unbroken down cardboard and only in the front, no one goes to the back of the dumpster to dump (i do). There is regularly non-recyclable stuff there like toilets or kid's strollers. No one cares, everyone is super lazy.
@@hermaeusmora2945 so sad
I am a general contractor and you best believe we don't have any junk in our scrap metal dumpsters. If I see people throwing trash in them they can either pick all trash out or pay for the dump fee since the recycler doesn't want it (about $1400) and knowing that an entire paycheck could be wasted by 1 cup is great incentive.
@@randomvideosn0where that's the biggest problem with the whole recycling system, the only place there is incentive to recycle is metal everything else is on a make yourself feel good system. I know there is no value in cardboard anymore and hasn't been really any in glass/plastic or wood. So until there is an incentive for people to actually do something like on your sites nothing will change.
In my country we use ceramic ou cement shingles, they last 2 or 3 generations with no maintenance. My dad has ceramic roof in his 60 years old house, no leaks, no maintenance at all.
@Moo that's one thing I really hate about the US tbh. Just profit profit profit and trying to get away with the cheapest option in the short term
@Moo but still too expensive than some countries that use Concrete and steel construction , Like here in india ,You can make a 2500 square feet Concrete house in $45000 if you own a land with all plumping and electricals and it will easily last for next 70-100 years
Honest question: doesn't ceramic and metal retain heat inside the house?
@@priscillajimenez27 no, because normally we built a slab between the roof and the house, it keeps the heat from enter the house.
@@priscillajimenez27 i don't think its got very good insulation properties tbh so probably doesn't keep you warm or cold. But would be nice if they did!
im glad i replaced my asphalt with tin last year (actually it covers the old asphalt) looks so much nicer and will last a lifetime. i noticed in the last few years that so many homes here in the midwest are switching to steel. it helps that steel is about the same price as asphalt now.
I prefer metal honestly, it has its drawbacks but when my roof is up to be replaced I can recycle the metal at a scrap yard or repurpose it and avoid the landfill.
And with proper maintenance it'll outlive you.
@Steve L Ya, it doesnt grip but I still prefer it, I put it up and I still remmember the scratches and crap from asphalt shingles, metal was always a better experience for me even if I slipped on the slippery slopes a few times.
Some other stuff tho, if you don't secure it right it will tear off and unlike a shingle, a sheet of metal in the wind is just a wind thrown knife. On top of that, it last ages but the coating wears off so you still have to recoat it every once and a while. Tho that is just maintenance stuff. The only drawback I can think of that may be a deal breaker is heavy rain and hail it can be rather loud.
one thing that always amazes me with landfill, is they don't sort it prior. if it was somewhat sorted then it could be dug up for use when there is a way to process it better in future.
That's a good idea. Never thought of that.
@Steve L Wut? 🤨
Agreed, in some cases, landfills have a higher concentration of aluminium than Bauxite.
i.e. the primary ore for aluminium, so there’s a lot of money to be made in sorting that stuff.
This makes me happy that I currently have a metal roof, metal is metal and will always be recyclable! Also it holds up to hail damage
To an extent, I've replaced roofs that got tore up from storms, especially that derrecho that blew through a few years back, bottom line is, you get what you pay for(or rather should, always some shady folks looking to pull one over)
Been laying shingles in Southern US for over 20 years. It is a gross misuse of resources.
In the UK asphalt shingles are totally unheard of. Most homes use natural slate. Others use other manufactured roof tiles but never asphalt shingles. And we probably in our lifetime never ever have to replace a roof other than minor repairs.
Asphalt shingles seem so backwards and crude. They look cheap and nasty.
My home uses tile, only time I had to replace was when someone threw a rock and broke one tile, and it was just a quick replace.
Funny, they can add it to 3d printing material and reuse it reprinting tiles
Its subjective. In America, asphalt shingles are more cost effective and more desirable aesthetically. The fasteners for "screw down" metal roofing are only warenteed for 8 to 10 years so that's the downside to the vast majority of metal roofing. Standing seam is superior but much more costly and low income areas rarely get standing seam. It's also Super hard to separate asphalt shingles from the tar paper, "ice and water", or synthetic underlayment when removing old shingles (I started out in construction with roofing and I've torn off more roofs then I wish I had.) I'm down for renewable alternatives but the market dictates what the average home owner can afford/has access to. I Love standing seam metal roofing and it's my preferred. Hopefully we will get there
@@leozmaxwelljilliumz3360 low income in the US does not match low income anywhere else, and almost everyone uses tile, so something is definitely wrong there
Question. How do they hold up to 120 mph winds? The gulf, Atlantic coasts, and Southern US get yearly hurricanes. Architectural shingles have a 130 or more mph rating. And they do hold up.
We do it with used tires as well... but as a leading expert in waste management I can assure you if you incentivized the recycling of these products more and more people would do it. But almost anywhere you go landfills and transfer stations charge EXTRA to recycle these types of items. This would dramatically reduce green house gases, but also contribute to companies ie earning carbon credits, reduce road costs, and provide many other perks.
Incentivize companies like Waste Management and Republic to provide the recycling process and we will see a HUGE positive change in how trash and emissions are handled.
The real question is "should we"? I dont believe any group has executed a full lifecycle assessment of emissions of landfill shingles vs recycled shingles. As humans we don't always think things through all the way. Recycling of plastics is one of those things. We actually release more emissions via plastic recycling due to it being so much more involved and complicated to do. We'd actually release less CO2 overall if we just stopped all plastic recycling all together. I suspect the same might be true of asphalt shingle recycling. Here's the thing. Asphalt is one of the cheapest and easiest to manufacture materials around. It's mostly just bitumin, a byproduct of oil refining, and gravel usually sourced locally. Because of all the additional steps required to turn roof shingles into a useable product for road asphalt, I would guess it might be better for the environment to just bury it in the ground. Landills get an undeserved bad rep and stigma, when in fact sometimes, underground can be the best place for a lot of the things we throw away. Think about these paper straws and how much more energy is used up trying to create these crappy replacements for perfectly good straws all because of some stupid sea turtle video. You can look this up and verify for yourself that we actually created a worse problem environmentally by banning plastic straws. Humans need to use their analytical brains for more thinking and less emotions.
@@johnjingleheimersmith9259 the whole point is that it WILL lower emissions and have less negative effects on the environment. Rather than mining and producing more raw materials, which emits more GHGs.
Plastic recycling is also quite lucrative and healthier for the environment as well. I think they're paying nearly $1,500/mTon for PE plastics. Done through systems that don't emit hardly ANY CO2. So I'm not sure where you're pulling your sources, but that aside; if you don't see trash island in the middle of the ocean that can be seen from outer space as being an issue then you should probably do a little more homework.
In fact if it wasn't healthier and more profitable truthfully they wouldn't do it. Same goes for cardboard recycling. Regardless, let's say it does emit more emissions, it's still healthier for the environment. Do you know how much emissions and effects landfills have on the environment? Let me guess you think we shouldn't properly dispose of freon, lead or mercury as well (ie electronics)? Where are you drawing the line for your moral highground?
I think you should research the innovative breakthroughs on things like straws and chopsticks. And how they are developing a whole new sustainable manufacturing process for certain goods.
@@johnjingleheimersmith9259 I'm actually curious where you get the information that recycling is worse for the environment than simply landfilling them? Everything I have read indicates the opposite. Did your data take into account contamination and environmental factors, or land use, or the need to replace the product that is being discarded?
@@CameronsCandorOriginal I'm talking mainly about hard to recycle items which includes most plastics but also shingles if you think about it. When looking at the whole value chain, the consultancy Deloitte estimated in a study published in 2015 that it takes 30 additional jobs to recycle plastic compared with burning unsorted waste or landfilling. And petro companies actually created and marketed the whole "recycling" thing as we know it today as a way to deceive consumers and rebuild the image of plastics as a whole which was flagging back in the 80s and 90s. They even created the chasing arrows logo you see on plastic packaging everywhere when in-fact most of the plastic types are not recycled in any locales in the US and will not even be accepted in the recycling centers if you tried to give it to them. The emphasis on "recycling" and de-emphasis on "reduce" and "reuse" was purposeful and the petro companies did many assessments, some of which predicted that recycling as we view it today could never become a cost effective exercise. So should we be spending time and energy (real energy mind you - Carbon energy) - in collecting virtually useless materials, processing them, and in doing so making things even less efficient, because the less efficient anything is, the more CO2 we are expending.
@@antoniomromo Be aware that everything you have read probably uses clever accounting tricks and is paid for by the oil industry to make it greenwashed. Plastic recycling is way more of a scam industry than you think.
Very interesting. In my nation we mainly use iron and steel sheets, ceramic and concrete tiles.
which country?
@@MarkWTK The land of the long white cloud.
Kiwi land
How many homes are being built in a year there? Not trying to brag but the US built 1.5 million last year and by some estimates were falling short of keeping up with the demand. They use those asphault shingles bc theyre are cheap and fast to lay.
@@Mr.Pop0 it’s only because they are cheap, metal roofs are pretty quick to put up aswell
In my country we use "Genteng" and "Sirap". The genteng is made from dry solid compressed clay and the sirap is made from a kind of rare strong wood.
The asphalt company I work for in Washington state process the shingles from start to finish!
We use far less petroleum products to make asphalt when we couple recycled asphalt with the recycled roofing shingles!
These shingle roofs are becoming so common in New Zealand. What a shame.
There have been studies that the roads made with used tires are creating a run off of chemicals whenever it rains. Currently being looked into how it may affect salmon but it could lead to more information in general.
Anything Petro based will have toxic runoff..., Hell, even gravel technically pollutes watershed's, the silt that washes down taints the water, it's all in how you look at it.
But I'm sure all of our asphalt roads have the same problem
@@kevinfreeman3098 LOL you said taint...
Always used old shingles as a base layer on a gravel road, definitely don't wanna take your ride down it until you've had some tracks run it down and drop a topping layer of aggregate down.
Those landfills aren’t going to fill themselves!
In the uk shingles are usually made out of slate, it’s a lot better for the environment and is easily recyclable
In my country we almost never use shingles. I have never seen a shingle on any house in my whole life.
Shingles are a cheap and toxic shortcut
As someone who works with asphalt plants, the plants have to test each batch of shingles for asbestos. Additionally, while many plants do have the option to use shingles, not that many actually do.
I did shingling for 3 years. After 6 months I constantly kept saying shingles should be illegal.
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Where I live it is very rare to find places that use something other than clay tiles on their roofs. They're very resistant and last decades with little to no maintenance. They can be recycled and if one tile breaks it's easy to fix. Cheap and sustainable as it should be :)
I would love love love if business insider did stories about companies like that startup that left a large pile of roofing waste. I’m not against recycling at all, I just think that it is very interesting. A lot of people think that startups like that can do no harm, when in fact, they had good intentions but left a massive mess
There are some on TH-cam, Propublica perhaps
If we want to switch away from asphalt shingles we need to increase our trade schools. Shingles are easier to install and don’t require a lot of training or equipment.
most roofing problems can be traced back to poor installation quality, metal and tile are some of the most difficult steep slope roofs to install.
Plenty of trade schools exist (in the US) but the Department of Education and Universities have been running a grift for years telling EVERYONE that they NEED to got to University or they will never succeed, and that only "dumb" people do trade work.
Metal is the way to go
"America isn't even building enough roads to use all this waste" shhhhit , you couldn't even fill half the pot holes in the US with all this waste.
im a roofer and this is true... some places... make play ground dirt with shingle waste... but its rare... its better to use and install metal roofs
Metal roofs don’t breathe, plus most are corrugated 36” panels. What roofer prefers non covered penetrations…
Besides most homeowners dont have the money to have a metal roof installed.
Why not motive home owners to use ceramic tiles instead? they are so much better in every way and every other country apart from the US seems to understand this.
@@Lolopozzadad i install standing seem metal roofs bro. those can breath if you know how to install it right... however i agree the the corrugated roofs suck... but i install standing seem and ive proven to the home owners with a laser temperature reader their attic temperatures before and after a metal roof...(metal reflects heat way more than shingles) its a 20 degree difference .. that saves you money with the air conditioning bill here in texas and they agree
@@juancarlosnegron2358 unfortunatly you are right, most of the times the insurance helps them pay for it... but 50 percent of the time im able to convince them to upgrade to standing seem metal roofs because it reflects heat better and they waste less electricty trying to cool the house
Excellent video 👌
Im happy that shingle company decided to update their page for clarity. Its very likely the initial project was given to underpaid interns and then never reviewed past initial posting.
Or perhaps gathering the information of who's currently doing recycling was a tedious process, so the page wasn't updated frequently until Business Insider reporters brought it up to the company.
Too common
I hate legislation that adds to the cost of a home, but asphalt shingles are a blight on the environment. They should only allow asphalt shingles that are rated for 50 years or greater. This should encourage people to look at alternative roofing methods.
Here in Colorado we have many hail storms. Roofs get replaced more like at a 10 year cycle, so the amount of waste is tremendous here
It's never going to be regulated by legislation. Do you know what a square of shingles in 30yr warranty costs? About 145$ a square depending where you are in the country and where you buy them from some manufacturers cost more than others. Personally Certainteed Pinnacle is the only brand I'd recommend they also happen to be the most expensive. A 50 yr shingle doesn't last 50 yrs especially if you live in a region that has bad inclement weather. Then you have to realize every house no matter which direction its facing has a weather side, which means you'll be replacing at the very least that section of the roof before the guarantee is up. And forget about the manufacturer upholding their guarantee on their shingle if you have to replace due to weather deterioration.
@@juancarlosnegron2358 so stop using shingles? Get ceramic tiles and they'll do much better in rough weather
@@Thatsme849 if the solution was that simple yes absolutely. However it's not. The problem is more complex than that. When a typical person thinks about roofing products what's the first thing that comes to mind? When you drive down any street in America and look up at any particular house what's the most common type of roofing you see? Then there's the accessibility issue shingles are more readily available than any other roofing product. Then there is costs typically shingles are cheaper than other roofing solutions. So the answer to the problem isn't so clear cut as using product A to product B.
@@juancarlosnegron2358 I know it will not be easy but that is never a good reason to give up on something is it? And somehow it works just fine for the rest of the world. Even the poorest of the poor in Europe have ceramic tiles and probably in other parts of the worlds as well - or at least metal roofs or something of the kind
Repent and follow Jesus my friend! Repenting doesn't mean confessing your sins to others, but to stop doing them altogether. Belief in Messiah alone is not enough to get you into heaven - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36). Contemplate how the Roman empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13. Revelation 17 confirms that it is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years to accomplish the religion of the Israelites C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate though because you can start a relationship with God and have proof. Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life. - Revelation 3:20
Revelation has been unfolding since Jesus died. The Popes have claimed to be equal to God and set themselves in Jesus' place (antichrist(s)). Vatican City (Which is its own nation BTW) have risen up to fulfill the role of the false prophet
Regarding the man of lawlessness or antichrist, 2 Thessalonians 2:4 says “Who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sits in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.” The restrainer that the Apostle Paul was referring to in 2 Thessalonians was the Western Roman Emperor, who held back the Popes from taking power. Once the last Western Roman Emperor was removed from power in 476 AD, the Pope was given civil and ecclesiastic authority over Rome; healing the deadly head wound of the beast in Revelation 13, as they took the Emperors title of Pontifex Maximus, leader of the church and state.
“We may according to the fullness of our power, dispose of the law and dispense above the law. Those whom the Pope of Rome doth separate, it is not a man that separates them but God. For the Pope holdeth place on earth, not simply of a man but of the true God.” (Source: “Decretals of Gregory IX,” Book 1, chapter 3.)
Pope Pius V blasphemed, “The Pope and God are the same, so he has all power in Heaven and earth.” (Source: Pope Pius V, quoted in Barclay, Cities Petrus Bertanous Chapter XXVII: 218.)
Pope Leo XIII declared, “We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty.” (Source: Pope Leo XIII Encyclical Letter, June 20, 1894)
The antichrist sea beast of Revelation points to the office of the papacy, the Popes of Rome, who controlled the Roman beast for 1,260 years, from 538-1798 AD.
Daniel 7:25 says “And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.” The Popes of Rome spoke against Elohim and proclaimed to be God. They reigned for 1,260 years, from 538-1798 AD. during which they caused tens of millions of saints to be killed.
The Pope’s title is Vicar of Christ, which in Latin is ‘Vicarius Filii Dei’, and equates numerically to the number 666
Welcome to America. Our entire culture is based on throw away consumerism. Been a contractor for 25 years. Every once in a while I can convince someone to go for metal, but by and large people only look at upfront costs, not lifetime cost. Both my houses have slate roofs. Lifetime should be at least 4 times an asphalt roof. And guess what, labor and materials cost will continue to rise. I would be willing to wager that the price to reroof your house in 30 years will be more than the extra cost to put a quality roof on now.
Well said friend, in the UK we use nothing but slate/clay/concrete tiles, the gear can last hundreds of years and is most definitely more cost effective and sustainable. But consumerism is finding its way into other aspects of our life, making things to last as long as possible is a thought of the past it seems, very unfortunate circumstances we find ourselves in.
I'm curious are your houses timber frame or brick built?
@@tepidbudgie my primary home, that I built myself, the ground level walls are concrete with 2x4 sister walls for mechanical and insulation. The 2nd and 3rd floors are standard 2x6 with 5" of closed cell foam. The roof is standard 2x10 with 7-8" of closed cell. My second home is circa 1850 and the walls are 22" solid stone with timber frame roof. Currently just fiberglass ceiling insulation, but renovations are planned.
Why is it that the most waste creating thing is much popular in the U.S. and not anywhere else!?
that's the american way lol. look at their cars and roads - way too big for no reason
Never heard of shingles until now. We have roof tiles in Australia.
We have more roofs in the USA. Lots more. To operate on the scale we do you have to be as practical, efficient and economic as possible.
Here in England I have never seen this type of roofing. Most of the older houses have slates and new ones use ceramic tiles.
What's the support structure under that tiles ,Concrete or just steel beams?
@@BondJFK support you mean roof trusses? Here in Malaysia it's hardwood or steel.we use metal roofing,cement tiles or terracotta.we don't have have asphalt shingles here.however in Indonesia our next door neighbour do have asphalt shingle roofing but it's unpopular.makes me wonder why Americans love to use low quality stuff for housing
We do use a similar tar & fine stone particle covered type of paper (a.k.a Roofing Felt) in the UK, but that is only usually used on very cheap flat roofs or garden sheds.
On domestic houses, it's a mix of stone (very old buildings)/slate/ceramic/concrete tiles in various designs to suit the local area.
@@JohnWatkinsUK flats like those cheap apartments you mean?
@@martinbanks7194 No, a flat roof as in the roof surface is flat (with a small slope towards a valley, gutter or drain hole)
Every hail storm there are hundreds of people getting their roof repaired because contracts convince people that their shingles are destroyed and that "insurance will cover it all".
What a huge massive scam. My neighbor's house has been reshingled twice in 5 years and 5 other houses have had new shingles in the last three years all because of hail the size of a small grape. It's pathetic because there is nothing wrong with my shingles that I installed 10 years ago
Asbestos isn't "poisonous" it's hazardous. Poisonous implies a chemical reaction, but asbestos is not chemically reactive with the human body. It causes physical damage in your lungs, creating scar tissue that can develop into cancer, it also can build up physically in your lungs mixing with mucus and reducing the ability to breathe. But none of that is a poisonous interaction.
Don't try to sound too smart feller... Be very careful with your terminology as it's faulted logic you're using, you are correct under most circumstances, there is always that exception, as you even said it yourself in your explanation. Tell me again what cancer is? And how and why asbestos causes some types including mesothelioma, because I'm fairly certain that mutations of cells undergo some reactions, granted it's a bit more advanced then what you pick up not actually going to school and studying it, you know as compared to being a TH-cam expert.
@@kevinfreeman3098 It’s not known as to how asbestos fibres actually mutate genes. There are three main theories, two of which I would describe as a reaction with asbestos and factors in your body. They believe that asbestos may be generating reactive oxygen species (like O^2-) through reactions with tissue and fluid found in the lungs, which may be causing mutations. They also believe that tiny asbestos fibres may be adsorbing to macromolecular structures like DNA and rendering the genetic data unreadable. The final hypothesis is that just the presence of asbestos fibres is causing cells alone to release certain chemicals resulting in genotoxicity.
They all sound quite plausible to me, however this area of research is not mine nor am I familiar with it. I do agree with you, technically speaking asbestos is poisonous (or is possibly poisonous however to label it this would be confusing to those who do not care about the minute and complicated interactions of asbestos fibres with the human body), however it all boils down to whatever regulation you use. CLP is arguably the largest and most widely accepted, which simply replaces the word dangerous with hazardous as part of the regulation making the original commenters comment pointless anyway, yes it’s hazardous but yes it is also poisonous. However the CLP reg. doesn’t use the term “poisonous” anyway and is instead replaced with toxic like basically every other regulation in the world, and by its very definition, asbestos is undeniably toxic. So the original commenters comment is actually just entirely wrong!
amazing idea of recycling garbage... hoping that it will succeed to lesson the plastic pollution in our places in different areas of the world.. more power to this men
I'm still trying to wrap my head around replacement roofs. I distinctly remember massive storms rolling through as a kid. Once in a while a roof would get replaced as a result. Today I can have a moderate storm come through, and the area just gets swarmed with inspectors. Somehow my 30 year roof didn't make it a year and needs replaced. I've built lots of structures. I inspect the roof... don't see jack that warrants a full replacement.
Likely a replace scam
Small brains wrap badly...
Always gets me mad to see how badly humans fail at circular economy. It's not just companies and governments - also the private households; e. g. home owners with a garden but no compost, which rather send their biodegradable waste in plastic bags to the landfill. 🤯 Not a care in the world resp. for the environment.
Just burying garbage to me is a joke. How can that be ok?
Burn it for energy I say. Burn it all. Way way better than what's happening. They can use scrubbers to clean the byproduct smoke.
Here in the phil(part where I live)we don’t have this SHINGLES, so i was shock that it was called shingles instead of roof slabs or something. Kind of letting me imagine something different every time it was mention.
Nice video..
only a problem for burgers with matchstick houses.
Denser housing = less supporting resources needed. Less roofing, plumbing, residential streets, etc.
I painted my shingle roof with elastomeric white stucco paint that I got for free and my utility bill went down. I also saved 10 grand by not having to get a new roof. Also my shingles stopped degrading.
Did you use something like Snow Coat?
@@joantrotter3005 I don’t know what that is. But I did use radiant barrier powder mixed into white paint on another roof on my first house
It's because of corrupt politicians, businesses, and hoa's. Get a metal, slate, or clay tile roof . Those last longer and are recyclable.
Theres an easy solution to Recycling. Pass a law requirement that all products that are made need to have a design plan for its Recycling. It has to be 100% Recyclable or the Product cannot be sold.
Milk used to be in Glass, why dont we do that now? You could go to the store to buy more milk and drop off the old glass out front of the shop.
Standard containers would also be helpful. So there are only 10 shapes so they can just be cleaned and refilled witout needing to break the container and make a new container.
Water Bottles, Tin Cans, Milk bottles and so on can all be a standard size no matter the company
Let's use ecosia 👍🌱🌳
Ban toxic asphalt
USA: Puts asphalt on roofs and concrete on roads.
Everyone else: Puts asphalt on roads and tiles on roofs.
We put asphalt on roads pp.
@@alienpov But you're an alien, so you don't count.
my granpa was selling clay and glass rooftiles back then...
i still remember tear my skin because of the corner of glass rooftile and should be run to hospital for 12 stich
bring back so much memories
I'd only use Euroshield rubber shingles or a type of steel roof. Maybe clay/slate if needed for asethtics and budget allows.
Full circle .... use the asphalt brickets for roads, the higher quality brickets are much better for roads then just using crushed shingles
Paving asphalt and shingle asphalt are different “grades”. Shingle asphalt would not pass most paving requirements. The bricks are the same as the powder, it’s just easier to transport.
Our stone flag roof has been on for over 400years so far.
Off to the landfill, let the next generation worry about it
So the next gen are basically cleaning up after the people that messed it up?
@@nandinhocunha440 You got it....be prepared, now buzz off and go play your video games
In Florida at least shingles have to be torn off and replaced well before their useful life is over for one big reason: insurance companies require it. If I get an asphalt shingle roof with a 50 year manufacturer warranty insurance companies will make me replace it in 15-25 years. That's not good in terms of preventing landfill waste. Shingles that last longer are a key to preventing waste.
If we're turning shingles into powder, could we add the powder to bricks or concrete during production? It would use up the "waste" and make the bricks and concrete "cleaner" in that they could use less material.
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I live in a county (USA) that is poor and could use this stuff to pave the dirt streets we have.
As soon as you put roofing instights on I figured out this was a funny video
Good.
I'm a ex roofer and I always thought this could be a thing but felt dumb thinking it.
i feel the same bro... those exact same thoughts
I live in a area mostly tile roofs, expensive and wasteful. About the time to replace a asphalt roof too a tile roof underlayment which many tile roofs are dumped as high cost of labor to try and save them. So one pays for a whole new tile roof to save the labor cost. Asphalt is the better economical way to go
I'm getting shingles today - what? They can go into a road three states away? Well, I'll pack them in cardboard boxes and mail them there at my expense! Problem solved!
why not get ceramic tiles? They are so much better in every way and only the US doesn't seem to understand this (as usual)
Build arc furnaces and dispose of them that way. Some see piles of trash, I see piles of fuel and resources.
No. 'Asphalt' shingles are mostly lime and fiberglass, not asphalt. Read the ingredients.
But how do they taste and are they fattening?
Indian red tiles
Gosh... Just use clay to make roofs...
Exactly!
its nice when you have a tile roof
cool
im first lol
Why don't you Americans use more lumber I the roof and use terracotta roof tiles and you NEVER have to touch the roof ever again
Louisiana roofer here. Yes this is possible, however there has been major failure rates in asphalt toped roads using recycled shingles as low as 9% base. We still need to refine the mix to find a long term solution.
Old shingles asphalt is aged causing it to be more brittle. A road sees a ton of traffic per day, a roof only sees weather. Thus paving asphalt has different requirements.
The long term solution is motivating homeowners to get ceramic tiles instead like everyone in Europe and other countries does. They are so much better in every way
@@Thatsme849 people here can barely afford a new roof, and when they do, most contractors use the cheaper stuff since it makes them more profit.
But I agree with the use of non-asphalt roofs.
@@gotrod5432b Well then its time for the government to step in and put more taxes on shingles and less on more environmentally friendly options isn't it
All manufacturers need to take full responsibility and accept back for re-purposing all of their goods in a reverse supply chain. All of it, not a portion. And figure it out. In the meantime, charge 10x for landfilling, because landfilling is really not a feasible option. Incorporate circular thinking from the start!
The reason they’re hard to recycle is the same reason they don’t last… Why don’t we use things that we can’t get rid of like certain plastics or carbon to make something that we want to last forever? We had this problem of filling landfills for things that don’t last long, and then a similar problem of creating too much of things that last forever. Would it not make sense to use those things that last forever as building products then? There is so much corruption in the world today that it is absolutely impossible to make a good idea work. If I was to make it work they would condemn my home. Here in North Carolina if you have enough solar panels or hydroelectric to power your house you still have to pay the power company to be connected to their grid even though you can’t sell power back to the grid. It is in their perspective. It will never happen, but if you are truly “off grid“ your home can be condemned if it is not connected to the power grid here in North Carolina. That doesn’t sound like any step forward it sounds like lobbyists planting dead hookers in the trunks of legislators
Tile roofs last for ages and can be ground into concrete sand or gravel. Even if broken and dumped, they are non toxic as it just brick.
But something to do with shingles if they fail to recycle is burning them. The US dumps much to much waste instead of having trash incenerators. Making energy from waste, if filtering smoke properly is efficient and fills landfills with a bit of ash instead of a mountain of filth.
Press bricks or pavers out of it for building 🤷🏻♂️
Is corrogated metal sheets are not good for snow? Metal sheet can b recycle.
Who the hell wants to hear rain beating on metal? Not me!
In a capitalist country where money comes before anything else this is the result. I have never seen these roofs in Europe.
I never quite understood why asphalt shingles are so popular, they break so easily they are very fragile, they never were up to the task of keeping a roof dry under any conditions other than ideal. Any other roof type even brush such seems to be better than Tarah and shingle I just don’t get it. There must be lobbyists involved because even though I’ve made plenty of money installing torn shingle roofs working construction for decades, they just don’t make sense at all they are garbage from the beginningf
Just ban shingles imo.
Just quit telling other people how to live.
When they say its made of asphalt they actually mean bitumen. Asphalt is a mixture of bitumen and rocks and stuff..
sell/give it to other countries that are in short of roads
metrotile or Tapco slate is what they need to use
Aren't asphalt shingles on top of wood a horrible fire risk? In the UK literally every roof is slate or clay tiles.
No more so than the wood the home is made from.
Most asphalt shingles will melt before catching fire, and if/when they do catch fire, you have more to worry about than your roofing material.
I though World Wide Waste was from computer or digital parts!
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Whatever is cheapest works for me.
I totaly understand using this stuff for roads, and roofs ect by why they hell arnt they making sheets of this stuff from recycled (end of life shingles) things like anti-weed sheets for gardens, expanded for noise pollution ect the uses are endless for some material's but not all are prone to be researched as it always comes down to "cost" why not give it schools and colleges to research with it would cost a lot less or even be free as we would be edialcatiin the future generation on how to avoids the mistakes before they are already done
Time has come to phase out of asphalt shingles and use better materials for this market. Just like wooden shingles there time is over. Metal shingles can be made in similar shape and sizes to take over where asphalt shingles are.
Just use clay tiles
Multistorey houses G+3 are more environmental friendly.
Less Heating & Cooling energy & pollution
Less Construction Embodied energy
Less Road construction & maintenance
Less Daily travel & Utility cables
More forests & Agriculture area instead of suburban sprawl
1:01 Only place where these are popular at all is in the USA.
Wow
I was so surprised when i realised American homes dont use slate or terracotta tiles. Felting in the uk is cheap but it doesnt last. No home is roofed with felt tiles here unless its a flat roof extension or a garden shed.
Americans are not interested in things lasting. I'll be dead in 20 years. I really don't care what happens then. New houses are nicer than old ones are anyways. Which is why we build more houses in the USA than the entire rest of the world combined manages to build.
Here's an idea why not lend a hand to the solar shingles innovations ideas with the recycling process. And use a brighter color it can reduce the heat in the house as well.
Should shred it and use as pef (process engineered fuel)
Why not use better materials to create a better and cheaper product that last longer? Tar and shingle roofs don’t last at all they are not maintainable they’re expensive create excess heat don’t deal well with expansion or weather of any type. The drainage from these reeves fills water ways with toxic waste. Why not use something better to make something more durable? Like one of the products or buy products that is that we can’t get rid of? Anybody? Take a guess
Humans create a lot of waste.