You are doing such a great job with your videos. I really look forward to watching them and you’re a complete natural with the camera. Keep up the great work!
I flew First from Heathrow to Toronto a few years ago and a “First and Club World” bus was as exclusive as it got getting to the remote stand. Loving all the hacks you highlight, from someone who thought he was doing alright before! 😂
Looks like a great trip. Concorde lounge is wonderful (only been there once - would love to try it again). To me BA First Class seat still looks like a slight better than average Business class seat on other top airlines. BA FAs always top notch and the food has improved significantly. Your French pronunciation was magnifique!
Thank you for your kind comments and support, it's much appreciated. I thought the food on the flight was excellent, the fact that they delivered it in the air made it all the more wonderful.
LOL about the bus to the airport, wife and I did the same last year when we flew BA first from LHR to DFW. I loved the thought of being on a city bus to fly first class. Thanks for sharing.
Been waiting for this vid. Sorry you had to blur me out when I had to move seats 😅. Hope I didn’t ruin your recording too much. Amazing what a deal you got on it, I def paid more. And no, buses is the only thing I’ve ever experienced even in first. This was a pretty old product sadly I’ve had much better BA firsts mostly to the US or Singapore. Hope you had a lovely time on Barbados. All the best and enjoy the rest of your gap year, Phil (yes that’s my name too)
Thanks for your comment, Phil (good strong name, I like it). Thanks for reaching out, great to hear from people in the videos, and thanks for letting me know about the busses, it was as I thought, all pile onto an old noisy bus. You didn't cause me any issues with filming because I'm always going to blur out clear faces in the background, I just hope my filming didn't make affect your enjoyment of your first class trip, because I am conscious of that especially in premium cabins where other passengers may have spent a lot of money. I hesitate to ask, but did you wear the pyjamas, and if you did where did you change, that loo was surely too small? I had a wonderful time on Barbados, thank you, if we cross paths again, please do reach out, Phil
@@mygreygapyear haha pjs are ok if you get the largest size (which isn’t very large) and the loos are tiny unless you’re on BAs newest first class and on the right side of the aisle. Zero comparisons to Lufthansa first on the top deck A380 or other airlines sadly (also whyyyyyy did Ba put their A380 first on the bottom deck with a huge staircase running through the middle?! Worst decision ever.) Hope you’re well and enjoying your gap year. Loving your vids and tips please keep them up! All the best Phil
Another enjoyable trip report. As a recent subscriber I’m really enjoying all your back catalogue and looking forward to using your help to get status and see some more of the world turning left off the air bridge. Keep up the good work.
Thank you for your kind comments and support Alan, I'm glad your finding the videos fun and helpful. The very best of luck with your status chase, do let me know how you get on, and also feel free to ask any questions you might have, All the best, Phil
Oh, that looked glorious!!! Never had the pleasure of First, one day maybe. You are very funny and make me chuckle now and then with your comments. Thanks for sharing your travels. I do think they should get a bus for business class passengers as well when the aircraft is on an outside stand…. My pet hate that. Happy travels! ✈️
Thanks for your comment and support, I can't find any other comments by you but I hope I didn't get too salty with my reply, 😊. I don't mind what people say so don't worry about it, it's all water off a ducks back to me (and I shouldn't be on TH-cam if it isn't). Thanks, Phil
Tell me you're from Devon without telling me you're from Devon. And you're wrong. No mess ensues just put the cream on top how is this difficult. BTW the Cornish border police have been alerted to look out for you..
@Joe-lb8qn not Devon but raised in Dorset😁, cream teas a plenty. Dorset County show in a couple of weeks, sit by the strawberries & cream caravan and watch which way round 1000s do it
As I watch this at around 4pm here in Omaha, USA your inflight tea service reminded me that I needed to go make myself a pot of tea. Unfortunately, I've only got a couple of Belvita cookies to eat with it.I'll be sure to poke that belly when I do see you during my travels. Poke!
Thank you for your comment, sounds amazing. I don't why BA can't provide something like that for First Class. I mean it doesn't have to be an expensive car, a comfortable mini bus for the 8 passengers in First would be fine.
@@mygreygapyear I'm Star Alliance Gold and mid tier with Finnair. My best first class experience - landed at FRA at a remote apron position. Walking down the aircraft stairs, I spotted a guy holding a board with my name on - Drove me to the terminal in a limo. Had complete imposter syndrome when I saw the other passenger's faces!
Really enjoying your grey gap year videos and great tips with avios. Up to now I’ve always considered you a like minded spirit enjoying decent champagne, soldiering through that afternoon tea. But… shocking! It’s got to be jam first ! I almost unscribed but I’ll will watch future videos to see if you redeem yourself. Funny but we are currently on Barbados and have been visiting for 22 years. I’ve got an Amex voucher and will see if I can get next February trip in first like you! Peak season might be more challenging. Keep up the good work Phil
Thank you for your comment, I'm going to have to stop including scones in my videos, more controversial than Josh Cahill! 😊 If I have scones at home I put a slice of very cold butter on the scone (literally cut with a sharp knife), then a twist of milled sea salt then a layer of conserve. I didn't ask if they had this on the flight, but in the absence of this I use cream as the butter. I hope you're having an amazing trip on Barbados, I can see why so many people return year after year, it is a unique destination. If you're looking for reward availability next year I would subscribe to seat spy and set an alert, it will be more difficult in peak. Thanks for your support, Phil
Great video but totally agree that having to get a bus out to the aircraft would temporarily lessen the first class experience, but the first class check in and Concorde lounge looked very good. The food looked excellent but i would of hoped for a few more veggies with the lamb . Some of the BA 777s on this route are over 22 years and really need to be replaced by more modern aircraft, the IFE was certainly below standard in comparison to say Emirates. But what a great deal you got with Avios what was the return flight like in comparison?
Thanks for your comments and questions, the Concorde Room was a great experience that I want to repeat for lunch or dinner, I think I could have had more veg if I'd wanted it, but didn't want to fill up on veg 😀 I agree on the refresh, if they can upgrade the club suite then they should refurb first too, and the return flight, well that was great and will be released in a week or two Thanks Phil
Nice video, my only experience on BA First is on a LHR-MAD flight in 2019 on a Boeing 777-300, got upgraded at the gate for free. It was a Club Europe service, but in the First Cabin- very nice and I can only imagine the full monty of BA First!
Thanks for your comment, I know right 😂😂😂 Dainty finger sandwiches and a big mg of tea. I don't know which tea they use but BA tea is the best tea I had on a flight.
I've flown BA 1st several times and the bus service is the same. The lounge --> gate --> Plane service is the same no matter what class other than the boarding group allocation.
Thanks for the comment, although the bus to London from Stafford is cheap, I don't think it's quite that cheap. My car isn't congestion zone compliant so I park near the Holiday Inn Express T5 on London Road and then I get the 703 Greenline bus from there. Taxi's and Ubers are pricey to and from the airport.
Definitely had the same experience with the bus bundled together after coming from the Concorde Room on my flight to JFK as well - bit of a bump back down to earth before getting to my seat. I also didn't like the storage of the aircraft in first on the return leg from Newark - the aircraft was the one you flew in and very sub-par compared to the newer fleet 777 planes, which still sadly have that tiny bathroom. Still debating if I'll just look for another airline as sadly the dedicated customer service team, even on the top levels of the Exec Club, also really aren't up to par. I'm afraid to say it, but BA is just focusing on cost now it seems. Glad we can have these videos Phil - if BA are gaming us through cost cutting, we should be gaming them right back if we're looking for tier status at all. Excited to try a new airline next time and see if there are other ways of getting value and service in the air, even on domestic legs.
Thanks for sharing your views, I think the bus is a big let down, and why are BA using so many remote stands at Heathrow T5? I'm (sort of) working down a bucket list of experiences, so I've done BA First on a long haul, unless I can be sure of a distinctly different product (not sure the first seat with the sliding door would count) then I'm off to other things, I've found a way to try Emirates using points so look out for that 😀. Thanks Phil
Been A10 a few flights in the last year. First class/group 1/gold BA get on the bus first and usually i have seen them keep it separate to the other boarding groups but exactly the same as what they will get.
Thanks for your comment, that's what I figured had happened, although I also thought that maybe status holders and perhaps business would get on the first bus too. Thanks for letting me know, it's appreciated, Phil
Love the vlog Phil since you are so pleased to be sitting in the 'pointy end' other issues that send the habitual 1st class traveller into meltdown (the bus transfer) you just brush aside, good on you, maybe a couple of glasses of that French Shampoo mellowed you a bit! With you on the scones by the way, have always treated the cream like butter and goes on first then the jam. Keep travelling🙂
Thank you for your kind comments, I am so glad to have a fellow "cream first" supporter. A glass of bubbly always pours oils on troubled water. I hope I never turn into a First Class meltdown passenger 😊
No, we both treat the clotted cream like butter. So, the clotted cream is spread on first with the jam then on top! To be honest I like them so much don’t really care if the jam goes on first. 😂
@jeremyreeve5798 @markbuhler5721 Ya see, good salted butter, thinly sliced, cold from the fridge and laid on the scone with a teaspoon of jam on top, spread with the back of the spoon. And Barbados is not the place for scones, that I do agree 😊 Thanks for your comments both, Phil
Thanks for your question, the only time I've flown out of Barbados was in First and I was in the First Lounge in the private jet terminal. th-cam.com/video/cwfMqHQYj34/w-d-xo.html The lounge in the main terminal is apparently not great, so have a nice lunch before you go to the airport and don't get there too early
Thank you for your question, that is a little outside my area of knowledge, and First is very tricky, because most airlines either don't release first or they release them late. If you have Avios (which is my reward point of choice) then Qatar is your best bet, and my advice would be to book early and be flexible. If you need them "right now" then you might strike lucky.
Phil, I didn't know you had a French background, your accent - amazing 🤣🤣🤣 Anyway back to reality - 1st class passengers on a bus out to the plane .... hhhmmm a bit 'poor' don't you think?
Thanks for your comment, I know right, you could have sworn I had a French voice actor come in for that Champagne pronunciation 😂😂😂. I agree, they could have done something better than that bus for First Class passengers.
Need to find some BA companion availability for the wife and I next year. One of the few Caribbean islands you can travel to via LHR which is a bonus for us as we need a regional tx from Edi
Thanks for your comment, much appreciated. I'd hadn't really considered travellers from around the UK, I do think that our flag carrier should do a better job of connecting up the UK to it's network. It is something when foreign carriers do a better job that British Airways. For reward availability I always use Seat Spy, because First isn't released as standard with the flight, there is often a flurry of First seats released nearer the date. Best of luck, I hope you find something and have an amazing trip. Thanks Phil
Brilliant Video. For me, the option of having an Amex that gives me a companion voucher is unreachable, Covid saw to that destroying our hotel company and credit ratings as a final punishment. BUT I avidly collect Avios and would happily pay the 85k avios and taxes, I wonder if starting in Inverness would make it a lot cheaper as it does get rid of a % of the air passenger duty. This is how I (Usually) manage to fly in Business instead of PE and the extra leg helps with TP too. Looking forward to when BA put a 787 or 777 back on the TLV route as often the 777 have a first cabin. Oh and the current double TP promo that runs until December on BA holidays is outstanding. Will be Gold for under 2K
Thanks for your comment, I'm sorry to hear of your covid troubles. You will get a cheaper cash part to the reward booking from Inverness of about £200 but when I've looked you can't get a redemption in first, but Dublin does allow a redemption in First for lower taxes, but you'll be charged some additional Avios. Congrats on getting Gold, under £2k is exceptional and I'd love to hear about it.
I discovered your channel and it’s great and simple! Found this video after subscribing after watching your Emmirates 1st class A180… I have just one question, when you do use your companion voucher and the Avios… Do you receive Avios back and tier points when you fly this ?
Thanks for your kind comments, I used my Two for One Voucher as a solo traveller so I essentially got a 50% discount on the Avios required, so it's an Avios discount not a points back offer (although I think that may not have been your question). On a reward flight you don't earn Avios or Tier points.
Gate A10 is shared bus no matter what your class, three first class flights now and like you, not snooty but this falls short of LH's Porsche transfers...
Thanks for your comment, I would love to try First Class on a Singapore A380, in this case the main issue would be that I would have landed in Singapore, and I wanted to go on a bucket list trip to Barbados.
Thanks for your comment, the hard product needs updating, I agree, but I don't mind Heathrow. Even without status and lounge access it has a better selection of restaurants than most airports. Bad experience of British Airways or would you prefer another airline / different hub? Thanks Phil
I have the British Airways Premium Credit Card, if I spend £15,000 in a year then I get the companion voucher. My favourite TH-camr, Matt Jones, explains it in this video th-cam.com/video/SxpokFks4Bw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=J2QYcV-6-45qwsEG It a couple of years out of date, the main change is the increase in spend to achieve the voucher which is now £15k and not £10k, as well as the increase in fee, from £250 to £300. If you're in the UK it's probably the best card there is but only if you're going to spend £15k on the card then it isn't worth the fee. There is a free version but the companion voucher is not as good. If you do decide to get one you I can give you a referral link that should get you a bigger bonus that you otherwise would get, (full disclosure) I'll get a few Avios points too. *[DAD ALERT]* Remember that these cards come with very high interest and you should make sure this is the right product for you, if you don't pay off the card in full and on time every month then the interest cost will outweigh the points and voucher benefit.
Thanks for your comment, you've got me doubting myself now. My note at the time was "tasty and pink in the middle" and that first cut does look a little stiff, but I think that must be the cutlery on that first cut into the meat. I've actually got footage of me eating the whole plate, and that footage does indicate that it required a little work but not that the meat was tough. Thanks, Phil
I hope you had a nice holiday? How many days in Barbados were you? I value your flight at £1560, as I value avios bought or earned at 1p. £1560 for a return flight to Barbados in First Class is pretty damm imporessive. THe joys of a companion voucher, Although, some would say add £250 for card cost so cost is £1,810, but I'm not sure I do. Maybe the £250 is for the ability to collect avios through card spend, and an advance on the ability to cancel avios flights for almost nothing. I really dont know!
Thank you for your comments, they're much appreciated. I had 11 nights in Barbados, I stayed in the Gap. When it comes to valuing the flight I think it's fair to say that a First Class ticket costs £6,000 and I paid £1560. But the actual cost of the Avios from my credit card, either the companion voucher cost £250, or the Avios cost 1p each, but I don't personally think it's both, because the Avios and the voucher come from the same card. Having said that we're assigning arbitrary costs to a ticket and we should simply assign the costs that make sense to us, what works for me may be different to what works for you, you should assign the values that make sense for you. Thanks, Phil
Thanks for your question, the BA AMEX two-fer is two people for the points of one person, but you can also use it as a solo traveller and in this case is a 50% points discount. So to answer you original question, it's an AMEX two for one voucher from the BA AMEX Premium Credit Card (£300 per year fee - £15k spend to earn the voucher) that I used as a solo traveller to get 50% off. Thanks Phil
I believe it is the 777-200. Looks like the 2010 seat. I'm doing this exact route in a couple of weeks, hopefully on the 787-10, so, although no doors it does have the 2015 seat so no stowing the TV!!
Thanks for your question, the suction cup mount I use is designed for car bonnet action shots and you can get one from Amazon, amzn.to/3UHLik7 (full disclosure, that is an affiliate link).
In the lounges you can eat all you want. BA do a meal service rather than dine on demand, but if you ate your meal and you were still hungry then I think they would rustle you up some more food.
This was a reward flight from Heathrow to Barbados, if you're struggling to find reward availability then this video might help, th-cam.com/video/C6S9SDr6Dh0/w-d-xo.html. If it's something else them let me know and I'll do my best to help.
I seem to be unable to select anything but Economy when booking through the redeem functionality. I have a standard voucher AMEX does one need a special voucher for this or a higher tier AMEX card?
Thank you for your question, I don't think the term "loo review" could be attributed to any one person, I've heard lots of reviewers use that. If you're from the UK you'll know that "loo" is a common term. I don't always film the airplane toilet, but when I do and use them in a video I've started to call them "The Bog Standard" and I don't know anyone using that.
Yeah, I am deliberately hooking you in with that... but there is a chapter on "how I did this" (or similar) so you can leap straight to it. And I don't think there are people that don't know that BA First Class is available using Avios if they really want to try the experience. Anyway, sorry to disappoint you, but Barbados is a route that regularly has First availability and is a wonderful place to visit.
Thanks for your comment, you're right, in a way. I paid for a round trip (I think that's in the video) which was 85,000 avios and (about) £724 (I think). I value avios at 1p each so I would cost the round trip at £1,575 (and I think that's in the video too). But for a one way flight you can pay £473 + some avios, so now we're into how you value an avios, which is subjective and different for everyone. I don't think will fit on a thumbnail, so I hope you can forgive me for that.
I'm a little bit cross about you accusing me of misleading viewers, that is not me. It is clearly in the video that I value Avios at 1p each and there is a chapter link with a full explanation of costs if you want to get straight to it. And you value Avios at 0.5p, I value them at 1p, but others will value them at zero (which just proves my point) because you can get 85,000 Avios for zero cost. So misleading, no I don't think so.
You deliberately omitted half of the cost in both the thumbnail and the title. Your viewers aren't stupid, they can see that for themselves. And it's frankly asinine to state that you got the avios for free (opportunity cost etc.) when you yourself value them at hundreds and they can be used as cash
Thanks for sharing your views, a lot of people feel that was, I'm not sure where I land. The big upside on this seat is that it's open, where as in business class your feet tend to have to fit in a cubby under the seat in front. Buddy dining wouldn't be possible in a business suite for example.
I have to say, it looks like you were looked after well. But this as a "first class" service is not really impressing, the cabin looks like it is from the early 2000's with a 10 inch TV screen. I would have a heart attack if I paid full price for this...
Thanks for your comment, I am inclined to agree that I wouldn't pay cash for this unless money had no meaning, the cabin and seat isn't world leading and many would argue that there are better business seats out there. But the service was second to none.
😂😂😂 I am struggling to take my gaze away from the pool of water to write this, but thank you for your comment. I think you can hear the flight attendant offer to take me down to first in the video. The you see that she does. And a lot of people are interested in these details, so I try to remember to include them, although I did forget to mention that this was a Boeing 777-200. I hope you managed to enjoy the other parts of the video, all the best, Phil
Thanks for your comment and yikkers, a fellow passenger from this flight has commented on the video! My point of view is that I obviously want to pay as little as possible and I can't afford to pay thousands for the fare, I simply don't have the money for that, but if I see a fare that I am happy to pay then I take a bit of a zen approach in that I was happy to pay the fare I did and that's no longer my focus, I'm focused on other things. Now if that other passenger wants to tell me how they got a lower fare and I can apply that process for my next flight then that I am interested in. Thanks, Phil
One world is truly the worst , literally can't imagine chasing status on any of their carriers particularly BA. Only AA is worse..... But that's not saying much
Thank you for your comment, I haven't flown American Airlines yet and I can understand most peoples thinking on British Airways, but Qatar Airways is part of the Oneworld Alliance, most people agree that they're one of the better ones.
LOL i do have to say that thier so called "original british menu" in 1st class aint exactly british ( i know yhey have to put stuff in there for other nationalaties of traveler! BUT on the mains where was a steak? NOT everybody likes lamb, fish,curry or pasta! i certainly dont like some of the options id have to plumb for the lamb! , live raviloi but hate aspargus pmsl ....yep you can tell i dont have a cultured palate ...im basic BUT for BA not to have a steak or beef option on the mains is unforgivable ..i suppose they could get away with saying the chicken ( as usualy when you fly it chicken ,beef or fish as a mains otion ) that the tika masala covered that lol ..also the cheese why no cheddar that is truly a british cheese and the most popular one? also the deserts leave much to be desired for 1st class .... a tart that if you have nut alergies you cant eat...crepe suzzete with icecraem ..wow basical a pancake or just vanilla icecream with various toppings ...a bit of a poor show if you ask me if you were paying the full price to fly 1st class on BA!
Thanks for your comments, I'm looking at the menu now and there is a lot of asparagus on it isn't there. If I was serving you I think I'd suggest either a smoked salmon starter (kept plain, not too "fishy") with a nice fresh roll and butter, or the soup if you'd like to try that. Then I suppose the Lamb for mains, but you might like to try the turbot, again, it's quite a meaty fish and I'd just put some butter on it, a little salt and squeeze some lemon over it. I'd offer you some lobster sauce on the side which you might like. For dessert, the Rutland red would not be miles away from a classic cheddar, or if you like coffee I'd serve you vanilla ice cream with a shot of espresso (they have an espresso machine on board) and then invite you to pour the coffee over the ice cream and try that, Very simple, but with an air of decadence. I'd also make sure you had plenty to drink so you fell asleep 😂 But I do take your point on the menu, there was a beef option on the return journey, which I had (I think?). I wonder if they would have been able to offer you something from Business if they had a different menu. Thanks again for your comment, I do love to hear other points of view, Phil
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You are doing such a great job with your videos. I really look forward to watching them and you’re a complete natural with the camera. Keep up the great work!
That means a lot to me, thank you, you've completely made my day.
Thanks
Phil
I flew First from Heathrow to Toronto a few years ago and a “First and Club World” bus was as exclusive as it got getting to the remote stand. Loving all the hacks you highlight, from someone who thought he was doing alright before! 😂
Thanks for your comment and your support, glad the videos are proving useful. Thanks for letting me know about the First Class bus gate 😊
Looks like a great trip. Concorde lounge is wonderful (only been there once - would love to try it again). To me BA First Class seat still looks like a slight better than average Business class seat on other top airlines. BA FAs always top notch and the food has improved significantly. Your French pronunciation was magnifique!
Thank you for your kind comments and support, it's much appreciated. I thought the food on the flight was excellent, the fact that they delivered it in the air made it all the more wonderful.
LOL about the bus to the airport, wife and I did the same last year when we flew BA first from LHR to DFW. I loved the thought of being on a city bus to fly first class. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for your comment, year, it isn't very "First Class" is it.
Been waiting for this vid. Sorry you had to blur me out when I had to move seats 😅. Hope I didn’t ruin your recording too much. Amazing what a deal you got on it, I def paid more. And no, buses is the only thing I’ve ever experienced even in first. This was a pretty old product sadly I’ve had much better BA firsts mostly to the US or Singapore. Hope you had a lovely time on Barbados. All the best and enjoy the rest of your gap year, Phil (yes that’s my name too)
Thanks for your comment, Phil (good strong name, I like it). Thanks for reaching out, great to hear from people in the videos, and thanks for letting me know about the busses, it was as I thought, all pile onto an old noisy bus.
You didn't cause me any issues with filming because I'm always going to blur out clear faces in the background, I just hope my filming didn't make affect your enjoyment of your first class trip, because I am conscious of that especially in premium cabins where other passengers may have spent a lot of money.
I hesitate to ask, but did you wear the pyjamas, and if you did where did you change, that loo was surely too small?
I had a wonderful time on Barbados, thank you, if we cross paths again, please do reach out,
Phil
Yeh. The toilets are way too small to change in
@@mygreygapyear haha pjs are ok if you get the largest size (which isn’t very large) and the loos are tiny unless you’re on BAs newest first class and on the right side of the aisle. Zero comparisons to Lufthansa first on the top deck A380 or other airlines sadly (also whyyyyyy did Ba put their A380 first on the bottom deck with a huge staircase running through the middle?! Worst decision ever.)
Hope you’re well and enjoying your gap year.
Loving your vids and tips please keep them up!
All the best
Phil
@@philebsworth6494 Thanks Phil, thanks for your comment, I'm still loving my gap year 😊
All the best,
Phil
Great video - one bus for all - a “First” world problem 😂
Thank you for your kind comments, much appreciated. Love the pun too.
Brilliant Phil. Don’t be getting too used to first class. Done it three times to to the USA via the Avios route and it was fabulous
Thanks for your kind comment, I can only imagine I'll be flying first using points, but I could get used to it, 😊
Another enjoyable trip report. As a recent subscriber I’m really enjoying all your back catalogue and looking forward to using your help to get status and see some more of the world turning left off the air bridge. Keep up the good work.
Thank you for your kind comments and support Alan, I'm glad your finding the videos fun and helpful. The very best of luck with your status chase, do let me know how you get on, and also feel free to ask any questions you might have,
All the best,
Phil
Oh, that looked glorious!!! Never had the pleasure of First, one day maybe. You are very funny and make me chuckle now and then with your comments. Thanks for sharing your travels. I do think they should get a bus for business class passengers as well when the aircraft is on an outside stand…. My pet hate that. Happy travels! ✈️
Thank you for your comments, much appreciated, Outside stands are a pet hate of mine too.
Been binge watching your videos, they've been a great find! Thanks for sharing :)
Thanks for your kind comment Emma, much appreciated. All the very best with your channel.
Crowded bus, glass of champagne and a packet of nuts... real class 🤣🤣
Thanks for sharing your views, I think the Concorde Room adds something to the experience as did the two meals but the bus was less that first class.
Hi...despite my recent whinge (I was having a bad day obviously) I really enjoy your content. Great review and keep up the good work sir...David
Thanks for your comment and support, I can't find any other comments by you but I hope I didn't get too salty with my reply, 😊. I don't mind what people say so don't worry about it, it's all water off a ducks back to me (and I shouldn't be on TH-cam if it isn't).
Thanks,
Phil
@@mygreygapyear I'm banning you from ever using the word salty again, Bro.
@@immikhanUK Did I use it wrong, I pride myself on being down with the kids on the street (grandkids that is) 😂😂😂
My kinda man. Eat, Drink and be merry 😅
All the way, thanks 😀
Looks like you had a great flight. Looking forward to the return video
Thank you for your comment and support, the flight was awesome, thank you. Return video is imminent.
Cream goes on 1st your right❤ if you put the jam on 1st it becomes a pink mess
No way I'm touching that again 😂😂😂 (but yes, I agree)
Tell me you're from Devon without telling me you're from Devon. And you're wrong. No mess ensues just put the cream on top how is this difficult. BTW the Cornish border police have been alerted to look out for you..
@Joe-lb8qn not Devon but raised in Dorset😁, cream teas a plenty. Dorset County show in a couple of weeks, sit by the strawberries & cream caravan and watch which way round 1000s do it
@@doodles3075 I lived next door (Devon) for three years and horrified the locals by doing it the right way. 😂😂
@@Joe-lb8qn 🤪🤪
As I watch this at around 4pm here in Omaha, USA your inflight tea service reminded me that I needed to go make myself a pot of tea. Unfortunately, I've only got a couple of Belvita cookies to eat with it.I'll be sure to poke that belly when I do see you during my travels. Poke!
Thank you for the comment and the poke 😊 If our paths cross I'll make sure I have Yorkshire Tea and some good quality custard cream biscuits.
Great video Phil! F defo on my ‘to do’ list! Nice insight of the service! Look forward to seeing the return leg!
Thanks for your comments, much appreciated.
Flew First Class with Lufthansa last year - drove me from the first class terminal to the aircraft in a Porsche...
Thank you for your comment, sounds amazing. I don't why BA can't provide something like that for First Class. I mean it doesn't have to be an expensive car, a comfortable mini bus for the 8 passengers in First would be fine.
@@mygreygapyear I'm Star Alliance Gold and mid tier with Finnair. My best first class experience - landed at FRA at a remote apron position. Walking down the aircraft stairs, I spotted a guy holding a board with my name on - Drove me to the terminal in a limo. Had complete imposter syndrome when I saw the other passenger's faces!
@@diamonddave2622 Outstanding!
@@mygreygapyearthere is always a fleet of black BMW 7 series parked up airside at T5. Not sure why ?
@@goldenkoi23 😂😂😂
Really enjoying your grey gap year videos and great tips with avios. Up to now I’ve always considered you a like minded spirit enjoying decent champagne, soldiering through that afternoon tea. But… shocking! It’s got to be jam first ! I almost unscribed but I’ll will watch future videos to see if you redeem yourself. Funny but we are currently on Barbados and have been visiting for 22 years. I’ve got an Amex voucher and will see if I can get next February trip in first like you! Peak season might be more challenging. Keep up the good work Phil
Thank you for your comment, I'm going to have to stop including scones in my videos, more controversial than Josh Cahill! 😊 If I have scones at home I put a slice of very cold butter on the scone (literally cut with a sharp knife), then a twist of milled sea salt then a layer of conserve. I didn't ask if they had this on the flight, but in the absence of this I use cream as the butter.
I hope you're having an amazing trip on Barbados, I can see why so many people return year after year, it is a unique destination. If you're looking for reward availability next year I would subscribe to seat spy and set an alert, it will be more difficult in peak.
Thanks for your support,
Phil
Great video but totally agree that having to get a bus out to the aircraft would temporarily lessen the first class experience, but the first class check in and Concorde lounge looked very good.
The food looked excellent but i would of hoped for a few more veggies with the lamb .
Some of the BA 777s on this route are over 22 years and really need to be replaced by more modern aircraft, the IFE was certainly below standard in comparison to say Emirates.
But what a great deal you got with Avios what was the return flight like in comparison?
Thanks for your comments and questions, the Concorde Room was a great experience that I want to repeat for lunch or dinner, I think I could have had more veg if I'd wanted it, but didn't want to fill up on veg 😀 I agree on the refresh, if they can upgrade the club suite then they should refurb first too, and the return flight, well that was great and will be released in a week or two
Thanks
Phil
oh you lucky lucky b......ard.😊😊
Why thank you 😀
What a bargain!! Great snag and great video
Thanks, it was an amazing experience. Glad you enjoyed the video.
Nice video, my only experience on BA First is on a LHR-MAD flight in 2019 on a Boeing 777-300, got upgraded at the gate for free. It was a Club Europe service, but in the First Cabin- very nice and I can only imagine the full monty of BA First!
Thank you for your comment and support, much appreciated. I managed to snag a European Widebody trip last year, they're a lot of fun.
Love the mug of Builders tea, nice touch.
Thanks for your comment, I know right 😂😂😂 Dainty finger sandwiches and a big mg of tea. I don't know which tea they use but BA tea is the best tea I had on a flight.
@@mygreygapyear BA use Twinings tea , which is made for BA especially.
@@adlam97531 Now that is interesting, thank you for sharing that 😊
I've flown BA 1st several times and the bus service is the same. The lounge --> gate --> Plane service is the same no matter what class other than the boarding group allocation.
Perfect, thanks for letting me know.
Great video Phil!
Thank you for your kind comment, much appreciated.
Hi Phil
Nice report. Certainly on my wish list.
Are you telling me you got from Stafford to London Heathrow by bus for £1!
David
Thanks for the comment, although the bus to London from Stafford is cheap, I don't think it's quite that cheap. My car isn't congestion zone compliant so I park near the Holiday Inn Express T5 on London Road and then I get the 703 Greenline bus from there. Taxi's and Ubers are pricey to and from the airport.
Definitely had the same experience with the bus bundled together after coming from the Concorde Room on my flight to JFK as well - bit of a bump back down to earth before getting to my seat. I also didn't like the storage of the aircraft in first on the return leg from Newark - the aircraft was the one you flew in and very sub-par compared to the newer fleet 777 planes, which still sadly have that tiny bathroom. Still debating if I'll just look for another airline as sadly the dedicated customer service team, even on the top levels of the Exec Club, also really aren't up to par. I'm afraid to say it, but BA is just focusing on cost now it seems. Glad we can have these videos Phil - if BA are gaming us through cost cutting, we should be gaming them right back if we're looking for tier status at all. Excited to try a new airline next time and see if there are other ways of getting value and service in the air, even on domestic legs.
Thanks for sharing your views, I think the bus is a big let down, and why are BA using so many remote stands at Heathrow T5? I'm (sort of) working down a bucket list of experiences, so I've done BA First on a long haul, unless I can be sure of a distinctly different product (not sure the first seat with the sliding door would count) then I'm off to other things, I've found a way to try Emirates using points so look out for that 😀.
Thanks
Phil
Cracking video and I hope one day to tick off BA First from my bucket list (probs using avios like you)
Thanks for your comment, I hope you get your wish, it's something all travel fans should get to do once.
Very very nice. Hope you had a great time in Barbados ❤
Thank you for your kind comment, Barbados is a unique experience and I had a wonderful holiday, thank you.
Been A10 a few flights in the last year. First class/group 1/gold BA get on the bus first and usually i have seen them keep it separate to the other boarding groups but exactly the same as what they will get.
Thanks for your comment, that's what I figured had happened, although I also thought that maybe status holders and perhaps business would get on the first bus too.
Thanks for letting me know, it's appreciated,
Phil
Love the vlog Phil since you are so pleased to be sitting in the 'pointy end' other issues that send the habitual 1st class traveller into meltdown (the bus transfer) you just brush aside, good on you, maybe a couple of glasses of that French Shampoo mellowed you a bit! With you on the scones by the way, have always treated the cream like butter and goes on first then the jam. Keep travelling🙂
Thank you for your kind comments, I am so glad to have a fellow "cream first" supporter. A glass of bubbly always pours oils on troubled water. I hope I never turn into a First Class meltdown passenger 😊
Omg it’s clotted cream on top of the jam ! Never butter
No, we both treat the clotted cream like butter. So, the clotted cream is spread on first with the jam then on top! To be honest I like them so much don’t really care if the jam goes on first. 😂
😎 one thing we all agree on, Barbados 🇧🇧 is fabulous, and possibly too hot for scones
@jeremyreeve5798 @markbuhler5721
Ya see, good salted butter, thinly sliced, cold from the fridge and laid on the scone with a teaspoon of jam on top, spread with the back of the spoon.
And Barbados is not the place for scones, that I do agree 😊
Thanks for your comments both,
Phil
Hi do you have a video of an airport lounge in Barbados? We're going in November and would love to see the airport lounge before we book
Thanks for your question, the only time I've flown out of Barbados was in First and I was in the First Lounge in the private jet terminal. th-cam.com/video/cwfMqHQYj34/w-d-xo.html
The lounge in the main terminal is apparently not great, so have a nice lunch before you go to the airport and don't get there too early
Right now tell us how to get 1st class flights from Auckland to London for bargain please!
Thank you for your question, that is a little outside my area of knowledge, and First is very tricky, because most airlines either don't release first or they release them late. If you have Avios (which is my reward point of choice) then Qatar is your best bet, and my advice would be to book early and be flexible. If you need them "right now" then you might strike lucky.
Phil, I didn't know you had a French background, your accent - amazing 🤣🤣🤣 Anyway back to reality - 1st class passengers on a bus out to the plane .... hhhmmm a bit 'poor' don't you think?
Thanks for your comment, I know right, you could have sworn I had a French voice actor come in for that Champagne pronunciation 😂😂😂. I agree, they could have done something better than that bus for First Class passengers.
ChatGPT probably has an image for "A10 gate face".
I seems that you enjoyed yourself overall, that's what counts.
Thanks for your comment, "A10 Gate Face", 😂 I had a great flight, thanks
i think Lufthansa do a much better transfer for 1st passengers
Thanks for your comment, I'll have to look out for that 😊
Need to find some BA companion availability for the wife and I next year. One of the few Caribbean islands you can travel to via LHR which is a bonus for us as we need a regional tx from Edi
Thanks for your comment, much appreciated. I'd hadn't really considered travellers from around the UK, I do think that our flag carrier should do a better job of connecting up the UK to it's network. It is something when foreign carriers do a better job that British Airways.
For reward availability I always use Seat Spy, because First isn't released as standard with the flight, there is often a flurry of First seats released nearer the date. Best of luck, I hope you find something and have an amazing trip.
Thanks
Phil
@@mygreygapyear BA have 1x flight a day to/from Gla to LGW. Nothing from Edi which is poor. Never mind. 1st world problems 🤣
@@alannicol1223 It would be better if there was a reliable transport link between the two airports, but there is just a national express bus.
Bargain. I would be very happy ... particularly with access to Concorde room and saucy pancakes !!1
Thanks for your comment, it was a great flight, especially the saucy pancake 😊
You have to work quite hard to make the most of all the benefits of first class. The food did look excellent.
Thanks for your comment, the food was good on that flight.
Brilliant Video. For me, the option of having an Amex that gives me a companion voucher is unreachable, Covid saw to that destroying our hotel company and credit ratings as a final punishment. BUT I avidly collect Avios and would happily pay the 85k avios and taxes, I wonder if starting in Inverness would make it a lot cheaper as it does get rid of a % of the air passenger duty. This is how I (Usually) manage to fly in Business instead of PE and the extra leg helps with TP too. Looking forward to when BA put a 787 or 777 back on the TLV route as often the 777 have a first cabin. Oh and the current double TP promo that runs until December on BA holidays is outstanding. Will be Gold for under 2K
Thanks for your comment, I'm sorry to hear of your covid troubles. You will get a cheaper cash part to the reward booking from Inverness of about £200 but when I've looked you can't get a redemption in first, but Dublin does allow a redemption in First for lower taxes, but you'll be charged some additional Avios. Congrats on getting Gold, under £2k is exceptional and I'd love to hear about it.
Qatar offer a separate bus for first class passengers.
Thanks for your comment, a separate bus upgrade for first class passengers would be a big improvement to the experience.
I discovered your channel and it’s great and simple! Found this video after subscribing after watching your Emmirates 1st class A180…
I have just one question, when you do use your companion voucher and the Avios… Do you receive Avios back and tier points when you fly this ?
Thanks for your kind comments, I used my Two for One Voucher as a solo traveller so I essentially got a 50% discount on the Avios required, so it's an Avios discount not a points back offer (although I think that may not have been your question). On a reward flight you don't earn Avios or Tier points.
Thank you ✈️
Much appreciated
Nice review 👍 I
Thank you for your kind comments, they're much appreciated.
Gate A10 is shared bus no matter what your class, three first class flights now and like you, not snooty but this falls short of LH's Porsche transfers...
Yeah, I agree, the more I think on the I feel that for "First Class" it should at least be a better bus, I don't know how hard that really is.
Think i would bhqd preferred b ing on the Singapore flight before you. Bet you get a real 1st class ob there
Thanks for your comment, I would love to try First Class on a Singapore A380, in this case the main issue would be that I would have landed in Singapore, and I wanted to go on a bucket list trip to Barbados.
All looks a bit out of date and chaotic im afraid. Plus you have to use LHR. I would not choose BA.
Thanks for your comment, the hard product needs updating, I agree, but I don't mind Heathrow. Even without status and lounge access it has a better selection of restaurants than most airports.
Bad experience of British Airways or would you prefer another airline / different hub?
Thanks
Phil
How do I get companion voucher to pay less?
I have the British Airways Premium Credit Card, if I spend £15,000 in a year then I get the companion voucher. My favourite TH-camr, Matt Jones, explains it in this video th-cam.com/video/SxpokFks4Bw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=J2QYcV-6-45qwsEG
It a couple of years out of date, the main change is the increase in spend to achieve the voucher which is now £15k and not £10k, as well as the increase in fee, from £250 to £300.
If you're in the UK it's probably the best card there is but only if you're going to spend £15k on the card then it isn't worth the fee. There is a free version but the companion voucher is not as good.
If you do decide to get one you I can give you a referral link that should get you a bigger bonus that you otherwise would get, (full disclosure) I'll get a few Avios points too.
*[DAD ALERT]* Remember that these cards come with very high interest and you should make sure this is the right product for you, if you don't pay off the card in full and on time every month then the interest cost will outweigh the points and voucher benefit.
very very surprised the lamb wasnt like leather!
Thanks for your comment, you've got me doubting myself now.
My note at the time was "tasty and pink in the middle" and that first cut does look a little stiff, but I think that must be the cutlery on that first cut into the meat. I've actually got footage of me eating the whole plate, and that footage does indicate that it required a little work but not that the meat was tough.
Thanks,
Phil
Getting better with the videos. Looks easy but we all know it isn’t.
Thank for your comment and support, always trying to be better with each video.
You look well in First.
Why thank you, much appreciated.
I hope you had a nice holiday? How many days in Barbados were you? I value your flight at £1560, as I value avios bought or earned at 1p. £1560 for a return flight to Barbados in First Class is pretty damm imporessive. THe joys of a companion voucher, Although, some would say add £250 for card cost so cost is £1,810, but I'm not sure I do. Maybe the £250 is for the ability to collect avios through card spend, and an advance on the ability to cancel avios flights for almost nothing. I really dont know!
Thank you for your comments, they're much appreciated. I had 11 nights in Barbados, I stayed in the Gap.
When it comes to valuing the flight I think it's fair to say that a First Class ticket costs £6,000 and I paid £1560.
But the actual cost of the Avios from my credit card, either the companion voucher cost £250, or the Avios cost 1p each, but I don't personally think it's both, because the Avios and the voucher come from the same card.
Having said that we're assigning arbitrary costs to a ticket and we should simply assign the costs that make sense to us, what works for me may be different to what works for you, you should assign the values that make sense for you.
Thanks,
Phil
how did you get a voucher for solo traveler?
Thanks for your question, the BA AMEX two-fer is two people for the points of one person, but you can also use it as a solo traveller and in this case is a 50% points discount. So to answer you original question, it's an AMEX two for one voucher from the BA AMEX Premium Credit Card (£300 per year fee - £15k spend to earn the voucher) that I used as a solo traveller to get 50% off.
Thanks
Phil
@@mygreygapyear thanks
Was that a 777-200? Great video btw!
I'm not sure but I think it must have been, I believe the 777-300s have the new suite in them (probably go to New York),
Thanks for your comment,
Phil
I believe it is the 777-200. Looks like the 2010 seat. I'm doing this exact route in a couple of weeks, hopefully on the 787-10, so, although no doors it does have the 2015 seat so no stowing the TV!!
Knives set wrong?
Yes, nice spot, my mum would be very proud of you. Blades should face inwards (that's the error, right?)
Where did you get your camera holder from that was on the window seat as I can’t find one that’s holds up well.
Thanks for your question, the suction cup mount I use is designed for car bonnet action shots and you can get one from Amazon, amzn.to/3UHLik7 (full disclosure, that is an affiliate link).
Do you get eat as much as you want?
In the lounges you can eat all you want. BA do a meal service rather than dine on demand, but if you ate your meal and you were still hungry then I think they would rustle you up some more food.
I tried it but it didn’t work
This was a reward flight from Heathrow to Barbados, if you're struggling to find reward availability then this video might help, th-cam.com/video/C6S9SDr6Dh0/w-d-xo.html. If it's something else them let me know and I'll do my best to help.
I seem to be unable to select anything but Economy when booking through the redeem functionality. I have a standard voucher AMEX does one need a special voucher for this or a higher tier AMEX card?
Thank you for your question, the voucher that comes with the free AMEX card only allows economy travel unfortunately.
I see, thanks. Time to look into the benefits of upgrading my card I guess
You lucky b.......ard😮
😂😂😂
Every seat even in that old F seats have hanging space you obviously missed it on your other flight. It’s in the aisle.
Thanks for your comment and for pointing that out. Fingers crossed I'll get another chance to have a look for that.
Hey Phil how you doing? I think you’re doing a good job! I’m a new content creator too. My niche is travel. Let’s keep in touch 👊
Thanks for your kind comment, let's definitely keep in touch, all the very best with your channel.
@@mygreygapyear Sure! Just messaged you on IG
@@mygreygapyear Thank you so much! Kind of you too. It’s incredibly hard work as you know, let’s see where it goes. Sure, let’s keep in touch 👌
How does anyone get first class cheap flights hey ??
Thanks for your comment, I tell you how in the video and I think I even put a chapter marker in there if you don't want to watch the whole video.
Wh
o did the loo review first? You or Noel?
Thank you for your question, I don't think the term "loo review" could be attributed to any one person, I've heard lots of reviewers use that. If you're from the UK you'll know that "loo" is a common term.
I don't always film the airplane toilet, but when I do and use them in a video I've started to call them "The Bog Standard" and I don't know anyone using that.
No caviar!!!??? TBH that looks like business class, nice, but not 1st. Still, at that price, I'd be ok with it.
I had caviar. I think you should watch it again 😀.
Thanks for your comment,
Phil
Why didnt you just saying using avios points in your description!!!! Misleading!!
Yeah, I am deliberately hooking you in with that... but there is a chapter on "how I did this" (or similar) so you can leap straight to it. And I don't think there are people that don't know that BA First Class is available using Avios if they really want to try the experience.
Anyway, sorry to disappoint you, but Barbados is a route that regularly has First availability and is a wonderful place to visit.
Except your 85k Avios are worth £425 so you actually paid the best part of a grand.
Thanks for your comment, you're right, in a way. I paid for a round trip (I think that's in the video) which was 85,000 avios and (about) £724 (I think). I value avios at 1p each so I would cost the round trip at £1,575 (and I think that's in the video too). But for a one way flight you can pay £473 + some avios, so now we're into how you value an avios, which is subjective and different for everyone. I don't think will fit on a thumbnail, so I hope you can forgive me for that.
Leaving it out completely is misleading and the rock bottom price is the same for everyone since nectar joined.
I'm a little bit cross about you accusing me of misleading viewers, that is not me. It is clearly in the video that I value Avios at 1p each and there is a chapter link with a full explanation of costs if you want to get straight to it. And you value Avios at 0.5p, I value them at 1p, but others will value them at zero (which just proves my point) because you can get 85,000 Avios for zero cost. So misleading, no I don't think so.
You deliberately omitted half of the cost in both the thumbnail and the title. Your viewers aren't stupid, they can see that for themselves. And it's frankly asinine to state that you got the avios for free (opportunity cost etc.) when you yourself value them at hundreds and they can be used as cash
Don't patronise people by saying some people value them at zero. If that were the case they'd give them away for free.
Id say thqts more like business class
Thanks for sharing your views, a lot of people feel that was, I'm not sure where I land. The big upside on this seat is that it's open, where as in business class your feet tend to have to fit in a cubby under the seat in front. Buddy dining wouldn't be possible in a business suite for example.
But the problem is the food would not be halal so us muslims would not be able to travel ba
Thanks for your comment, I bet they provide Halal meals but you would have to request them 48 hours before your flight in manage my booking.
Thankyou from multan pakistan
I like your attitude
I have to say, it looks like you were looked after well. But this as a "first class" service is not really impressing, the cabin looks like it is from the early 2000's with a 10 inch TV screen. I would have a heart attack if I paid full price for this...
Thanks for your comment, I am inclined to agree that I wouldn't pay cash for this unless money had no meaning, the cabin and seat isn't world leading and many would argue that there are better business seats out there. But the service was second to none.
4.00 "immediately recognized as first class"... do me a favour. You certainly love yourself.
😂😂😂 I am struggling to take my gaze away from the pool of water to write this, but thank you for your comment.
I think you can hear the flight attendant offer to take me down to first in the video. The you see that she does. And a lot of people are interested in these details, so I try to remember to include them, although I did forget to mention that this was a Boeing 777-200.
I hope you managed to enjoy the other parts of the video, all the best,
Phil
How p…d off would you be if you paid thousands for a ticket and you are sitting next to someone that paid a few hundred.
Thanks for your comment and yikkers, a fellow passenger from this flight has commented on the video!
My point of view is that I obviously want to pay as little as possible and I can't afford to pay thousands for the fare, I simply don't have the money for that, but if I see a fare that I am happy to pay then I take a bit of a zen approach in that I was happy to pay the fare I did and that's no longer my focus, I'm focused on other things.
Now if that other passenger wants to tell me how they got a lower fare and I can apply that process for my next flight then that I am interested in.
Thanks,
Phil
One world is truly the worst , literally can't imagine chasing status on any of their carriers particularly BA. Only AA is worse..... But that's not saying much
Thank you for your comment, I haven't flown American Airlines yet and I can understand most peoples thinking on British Airways, but Qatar Airways is part of the Oneworld Alliance, most people agree that they're one of the better ones.
It’s not worth the extra over business.
I think if you're paying cash I'd tend to agree with you.
LOL i do have to say that thier so called "original british menu" in 1st class aint exactly british ( i know yhey have to put stuff in there for other nationalaties of traveler! BUT on the mains where was a steak? NOT everybody likes lamb, fish,curry or pasta! i certainly dont like some of the options id have to plumb for the lamb! , live raviloi but hate aspargus pmsl ....yep you can tell i dont have a cultured palate ...im basic BUT for BA not to have a steak or beef option on the mains is unforgivable ..i suppose they could get away with saying the chicken ( as usualy when you fly it chicken ,beef or fish as a mains otion ) that the tika masala covered that lol ..also the cheese why no cheddar that is truly a british cheese and the most popular one? also the deserts leave much to be desired for 1st class .... a tart that if you have nut alergies you cant eat...crepe suzzete with icecraem ..wow basical a pancake or just vanilla icecream with various toppings ...a bit of a poor show if you ask me if you were paying the full price to fly 1st class on BA!
Thanks for your comments, I'm looking at the menu now and there is a lot of asparagus on it isn't there. If I was serving you I think I'd suggest either a smoked salmon starter (kept plain, not too "fishy") with a nice fresh roll and butter, or the soup if you'd like to try that. Then I suppose the Lamb for mains, but you might like to try the turbot, again, it's quite a meaty fish and I'd just put some butter on it, a little salt and squeeze some lemon over it. I'd offer you some lobster sauce on the side which you might like.
For dessert, the Rutland red would not be miles away from a classic cheddar, or if you like coffee I'd serve you vanilla ice cream with a shot of espresso (they have an espresso machine on board) and then invite you to pour the coffee over the ice cream and try that, Very simple, but with an air of decadence.
I'd also make sure you had plenty to drink so you fell asleep 😂
But I do take your point on the menu, there was a beef option on the return journey, which I had (I think?). I wonder if they would have been able to offer you something from Business if they had a different menu.
Thanks again for your comment, I do love to hear other points of view,
Phil
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 that’s a mouth full of
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