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Hey I studied an infamous psycho-analyst Jacques Lacan at university. His work could be considered a theoretical framework for what is discussed here as an anti-meme. His work id say is an attempt I say to teach something that IS an anti-meme. He looked for a way to communicate that which wants to be forgotten. I recommend you browse the tiny booklet/interview "Jacques Lacan: Television". I remember the provocative first line: "I the truth, I speak". (Moi la vérité je parle.)
When I was 11 years old I learned how to "lie" incredibly effectively by repeating false memories in my mind over and over and over until they felt like real events. I cannot reliably recall most of middle school because I rewrote so much of it with the most rule-abiding version of events or even just convincing myself things I had done were dreams that could be safely discarded from my memories to protect myself from any potential punishments. Anti-memes are a unique horror to me because of that, because you can do it to yourself, on purpose, never realizing how upsetting its going to be for you later
I never developed this skill, it’s completely natural to me. Often times when I lie I get very upset when someone doesn’t believe me, it’s because in the moment I don’t even realize that it isn’t true. I once spent an hour complaining to my mother about my teacher giving me a zero for something I couldn’t help. It wasn’t until after the conversation that I remembered I was lying the whole time. It’s like I can temporarily suppress the real memory until afterwards when I need to remember the truth.
The idea of memes, cognitohazards and infohazards, and antimemetics are just so fucking cool conceptually. It has to be my #1 favorite thing to be found in SCP.
Their was an anime that was really popular in the early 2000’s it follows a girl in high school who starts a club with a bunch of strange and colorful students as she intends to proves the existence of things like Espers, Time Travelers and Aliens. Seems normal enough until it’s revealed that the students in her club are secretly an Esper, Time Traveler and an Alieb along with one completely average student. It’s revealed to the average student by the Esper that he’s sent by a secret organization of people like him to observe the Club Leader and keep her complacent without her knowledge and the other two are there for the same reason. The reason for it is because she has the power to alter reality on a whim, so seamlessly that no one would notice, not even her. On an even more existential level, none of them can be sure if they all exist because of her. How do you know if you weren’t created yesterday? Because you have memories of your entire life? That means nothing when faced with power like hers, your entire life, all of your memories could be a fabrication. They indulge her fantasies while also working to keep her grounded in reality so that they can maintain order as best they can.
As someone with a rare form of schizophrenia (as in it started effecting me as a small child instead of waiting until my teens or 20's)...this strikes a chord. Like what she said about trusting your own competence. When I finally learned that what I had was hallucinations, not demons like my parents thought, I started sticking close to my friends dogs. Knowing they'd go ballistic if what I saw was actually there, I faced my fears and figured out tells for my hallucinations. Things they for sure could not do, could do, and how to tell real voice from internal voice. from there it was about trusting my own competence. Was that creature there? Everything in me screamed yes, but it tripped a flag that said no, and I HAD to trust myself. Did it always work? Kinda. Turns out even if I logically know it's false, if I get too worked up my subconscious can still overrule. Careening down a staircase with my mouth still screaming "ITS NOT REAL YOU STUPID LEGS STOP STOP." My psychiatrist said my method was very clever at least, was impressed. I'll probably be proud of that the rest of my life. Medication does a lot. Doesn't make them all go away, just makes them less real. Helps me keep the logic side in control, makes the visions less believable. But the idea that your own senses can't be trusted, what you're seeing and hearing might not be real? memories might be changed or false? Just having to trust in your past self to be right, despite what your current senses say? yeah that strikes an unnerving chord.
What you said reminds me of some experiences with night terrors, the moment when part of your brain wakes up but your body is still sleeping and part of your mind is still dreaming so vivid hallucinations is common. During night terrors you can't tell real from imaginary apart and the sensation of not being able to move your body creates panic, which often brews scary hallucinations. Anyway, I think you can make people empathize with your condition by telling them "imagine being in a night terror, but it doesn't stop after you wake up"
Reminds me of a D&D story I heard. The PCs throughout their encounters kept finding a greater than average number of healing and utility potions throughout their journey. Towards the midgame they ended up fighting a memory devouring horror of some sort. It's revealed that the healing and utility potions were their minds justifying their survival after the memory of the cleric who was with them was erased in that battle. (out of character the GM was on the newer side and didn't know how deadly encounters were or could be, this was a post-hoc justification for over-doing the healing potions). However only the _memory_ of the character was erased. The cleric is and has been there the entire time, continuing to protect and heal their comrades, even though no-one remembers them.
That's a False Hydra. Not kidding that it's one of the most interesting home brewed creatures to ever grace D&D forums. The song it sings makes you stop perceiving it, past memories of it and all. But the scariest thing is that once it eats you, it makes you and any memories of you disappear (until you get it to stop singing by killing it or making yourself deaf). It's basically an excuse to gaslight players in terrifying ways, too bad it doesn't work on players more than once.... They definitely won't forget what you made them deal with. I highly recommend dungeon dads video on it if you are interested!
Not quite a false hydra. If it had been a false hydra he would have had to have been eaten to be forgotten. Since he was helping but forgotten and imperceptible, it had to have been something else.
Under normal conditions, what you don't know can hurt you. In the SCP memetics division, what you know can hurt you. In the SCP antimemetics division, what you *can't* know can hurt you.
My mind went to The Silence from Doctor Who. They are a creatures created to act as living confessionals, you can only remember them when you are looking at them and the moment your line of sight is broken you instantly forget them and even any conversations you had with them will be forgotten. They can implant suggestions by saying a command, then when you loose sight you have this random thought or idea that popped into your head from nowhere. But you will never remember The Silence themselves.
It's also kind of similar to the dream crabs (the ones that look like face huggers) that feed off your brain while keeping you in a dream reality, and are only alive while you think about them. But it's mostly just similar to the silence.
7:20 You said an anti-meme is "knowledge that is difficult to hold onto or retain" which immediately reminded me of dreams, sometimes you wake up with the knowledge of what happened in the dream, but it slowly starts to be forgotten, and there are some dreams you don't remember.
And then there are dreams you remember for months and months. I had a nightmare almost a year ago and it still sometimes freak me out when it just pops out in my brain out of nowhere. Does that mean anything?
Omg yea that’s so true, one time when I was in a dream I tried my hardest to remember every little thing that just happened but it’s like the memories immediately evaporated. When I woke up however I could remember some of it. It might have something to do with the fact that the prefrontal cortex which is responsible for short term memory, deactivates during dreaming.
I remember trying ao hard ro remember some dreama yet, I forgot them, and even thoug they are so hard to remember, some of my most vivid memories are dreams.
I recently discovered that all the supposedly false memories I have in dreams, of having dreamt of something before, and of having encountered something in my dreams in real life, aren't really false. It turns out that I still have recurrent themes in my dreams, but I remember less of my dreams than when I was a child and dreamed endless variations on a few dreams. When I think I remember having dreamed a dream before, but can't confirm that once waking up, it's probably because I dreamed myself thinking up the concept in one of those deeply unmemorable dreams where I dream I am lying in bed thinking brilliant and profound thoughts. Turns out that occasionally, amidst all of that slow-wave drivel, I dream concepts that my subconscious later returns to in vivid, full-narrative dreams.
I think what makes anti-memes so interesting is that, in the extremes of SCP, they objectively exist but they can’t subjectively exist, they do exist but they can’t be perceived and that is so intriguing, how something can still be ‘real’ but cannot be proven to exist and no one can even recall it’s existence.
I've read the book There Is No Antimemetics Division and I still wonder if the concept of anti-memes is something unique, legitimate and coherent or just a glorified mix of imperceptible monsters, memory-suckers and infohazards
@@stravvmanI feel like they're all of those things, but that it doesn't make the whole thing less unique and legitimate... The beauty of qtnm's writing in my eyes is how he relates the subjective experience of antimemetics: the profoundly jarring interactions between memory and forgetfulness, the despair of working around SCP-3125, all of it turns a somewhat tempting "what if?" scenario into story I found incredibly compelling. Despite all the imperceptible monsters, memory suckers and inevitable attempts at cosmic horror.
I can’t help but feel like I’ve seen this video already. Like I can almost speak it word for word, like I’ve memorized it, but I swear I haven’t watched it before. It’s like Deja Vu, but I swear I haven’t watched it yet.
A Deja Vu is actually similar to what is explained in the video.Your Brain lost some memories and tries to patch them up with what you are seeing right now.
There Is No Antimemetics Division is, hands down, THE best long-form writing on the SCP Wiki. I think really its only downside is that the plot does revolve around yet another incomprehensibly powerful world-ending monster, but as far as incomprehensibly powerful world-ending monsters go it’s fairly unique and the way it’s used in the story is pretty effective.
@@alfredfeldt5694Rounderhouse's Red Tape is an amazing one that I've started reading although it isn't fully completed as of the time of this comment.
imo, the most terrifying part of anti-memes is that they could very easily exist in our real world and we'd have no way of knowing it. How could we ever know something exists when it's impossible to recall or record information about it?
Camouflage (or at least, the types most people think of when they hear the word) works by getting caught in noise filters in your brain's visual processing I find it hard to believe there would be nothing between that and an all-consuming anti-meme like you describe
The antimemetics stories do make a point of saying that non-anomalous antimemes do exist. Stuff like strings of random numbers. Not impossible to remember, but information that's really hard to remember because it's nonsensical or boring, that kind of thing. Not really scary stuff, but interesting when you think about it.
"There is no Antimemetics Division" is one of my favorite SCP stories. I re-read it every few months. It works great with "Five Five Five Five Five" and "What the Dead Know"!
I’m so happy to see this. There Is No Antimemetics Division is my favourite SCP story, if not one of my favourite stories of all time. One interesting thing about the First Day story that wasn’t included in the video: Paul believes that he and the other researchers were fresh recruits, getting taken on a tour of the site by a senior staff member. Later, when he is rushing through the site, he only *then* notices that the entire building is almost utterly deserted. As previously it had not occurred to him to think of it as strange. In addition, now that he is affected by Alastair (am I spelling that right?), he is actually able to perceive the bodies of the other staff who’ve already been killed. This shows that Alastair’s effect operates as a kind of “bubble”, where once he/it pulls you in, you become able to perceive everything else that is being hidden (which is why only people affected by Alastair were able to access his/its file).
The first time he noticed the emptiness of the site is actually shortly before seeing Alastair, when he's looking around the cafeteria, and he thought it was strange then too. He recalls these observations later to speculate if/how Alastair is causing this.
I'm so glad this channel looks at SCP stuff. It's a criminally underrated story telling platform and a lot of people just dismiss it as the thing that has monsters written by random people. In reality, it's filled to the brim with amazing unique concepts, whole stories like the one featured in this video, and much more, all that is open to the public and can be used and added to as you wish.
The one about pattern screamers was one of my favorites. I always wonder if unconscious cells can come together to form a conscious brain, can conscious brains come together to make a higher order conscience? Is Humanity a person? Pattern screamers seem similar to me. They’re about what causes conscious and what can be conscious
Some are wholesome, others are odd, yet others are just sad. Then there are the joke SCPs for when you want some nutso stuff that'll likely put you in stitches. There's stuff buried so deep in the rabbit hole you might only find it once. The SCP wiki really is a wild ride.
Antimemetics are by far my favorite type of anomalies, the mere fact that you cant learn something about the thing or anything at all about something is extremely unnerving, having mental voids of knowing you did something or knowing there was something is a scary feeling, and knowing the things hides its features from you makes it even more terrifying.
there are 2 great scp stories one where the knowledge is dangerous ("Ignorance Is Bliss") and another where it's the creature that can make you not able to remember anything about it ("We Need To Talk About Fifty Five") just search on google and you can read it
@@vkgamimg8493 Duuude, I didn't even think about it like that! I remember a while ago trying to make an antimemetic and couldn't come up with a way to write one, I guess that makes them even more special, I always remember how 055 is remember just by what it isn't, such as it not being alone nor stupid, and how ••|•••••|••|• is one of the most creative articles on the site, having dozens of pages to explain the story of a single entity cannot be compared to what it feels to understand what ••|•••••|••|• is about. Man, I love antimemetics.
Phew. I've struggled with paranoid schizophrenia and/or DID (my doctor & therapist are still unsure about my exact diagnosis...) for years now. Forgetting things, everyday life stuff, but also major events, traumatic events, everything, it's sadly very normal to me. It only "got better" by me writing down everything I needed to remember, because eventually, it would always get lost somewhere inside my brain. My therapist always says, it's kinda like "my cords/cables are switched up". Like, sometimes there's is no connection to a memory at all, sometimes there is one, but I won't be the one remembering, but one of the other people within me. It's kinda tough, but I've learned to live with it. Just... This concept of "not being able to trust your own memory" strikes me quite hard, since I always doubt my memories due to the way I was brought up (lots of gaslighting, yaaay). It really is a cool concept though.
when i was like 8, i taught myself how to lie so effectively that i essentially believed that everything i said was true, even when it wasn’t. i would basically make up a TON of stories and then repeat them, over and over again (telling them to my friends and family, writing it in my journals etc.), until i had tricked myself into thinking that they were actually true. that’s why i can’t reliably remember a lot of things from fourth grade up until fifth grade-i had rewritten so many things to make myself the good guy and the hero. i’d convinced myself that everything terrible i did in that time period had never happened or were just overly realistic dreams. anti-memes are definitely a special genre of horror to me, because at its core, it’s just the same thing i was doing back in that period in my life.
9:50 I can't imagine what life must be like for those with perfect, photographic memory. Being able to recall every tiny detail of your life with crystal clarity, while certainly useful, sounds like it would slowly become maddening.
I suppose it would be maddening for us who have a capacity to forget, but why would 'never forgetting' be maddening to someone who can't? It's the only existence they have ever known.
as someone with photographic memory, first of all, I've never gone mad from remembering too much, second, I've also had my fair share of thinking that an event happened irl, but in reality it happened in a dream, and viceversa, and that's just one example of the times I've accidentally gaslit myself
It can be very painful, some times, having a good memory. Therapy and meditation helps, quite a bit, with not getting overwhelmed by re-experiencing intense feelings.
@@Someone-sc2hk Yeah, I figure having a very sharp memory for some senses doesn't mean having one for all of them. Recalling visual images isn't the same thing as recalling sounds, neither of which is the same as recalling "stories", which is what most of the memory of our lives consists of.
@@Bluelyre there are somethings that are painful enough to be worth forgetting i experience something akin to photographic memory although the existence of photographic memory is itself a debated topic
As someone who experiences "memory blindness" (the memory is there, but filed in the wrong cabinet, so to speak), I find antimemetic recovery fascinating. The main ways I work around memories that are hard to recall are through, notes/alarms/reminders and through finding an outline of a hole in my memory and following it until I find where it connects with something seemingly unrelated, usually through retracing my steps backwards or forwards from a known point. It can be extremely difficult at times, and tends to be unreliable, but the fact that it works at all is incredible, especially given the relative accuracy of the recollection when done this way. It has also given me a bit of insight into how my mind catalogues memories and how they connect more like a wiki than a book, bouncing from concept to concept, with only a bit of chronological information that usually must be deduced rather than remembered. I can follow a thread of concepts back and forth through time in my life without even trying, but putting it all in order takes significant mental effort.
There are a number of facts about my life that I only remember because I remember having remembered them, forming a chain back to the event itself. And with that "confidence in self competence" idea, I trust that I was right when I first recalled the memory shortly after the event, and all the times I both remembered the event and remembered having remembered the event. Now, having lost the memory of the event itself, I still know it happened because I'd confirmed it to myself already.
I do not remember most of my childhood due to some VERY traumatic memories, as well as having to deal with depression. It completely erased a LOT of it, and I still struggle with memory loss. A lot of the things I know about myself come from other people describing what I'm like to me. I sometimes wonder how strongly I've been changed simply by going along with what the person they perceive me as would do. It's a fear that I've grown used to though, or at least I think I am. When you're essentially a blank slate of a person with shreds of personality shining through, you learn that you don't really know anything.
There are so many unique and wonderfully engrossing entries on SCP, but Antimemetics is easily my favorite. It truly pushes the bounds further than anything else, in such a fascinating way.
@@user-mr6tg1yw2g yeah it is, hope u didnt get the wrong idea, im a huge fan of tale foundry, but to say talebot is some masterfully written character when its literally just the youtuber is a lil silly
Another great anti-memetic story is the first Fireteam to go into the Vault of Glass in Destiny. One by one they all get "erased" from time rather than just killed. Reading how each of the Guardians cope with this is really interesting.
that is existential erasure not anti memetics. an anti meme still exists, those Guardians effectively never existed in the first place (but existential erasure via time manipulation is not 100% infallible)
Well, from the point of view of someone afflicted with antimeme the erased event/person/thing has never existed in the first place. It's also retroactive. And while the erasure in Destiny is more complete I think that if someone has been wiped by an antimeme to the point no one remembers he ever was, he might as well not exist.
For those who are wondering what these guys are talking about, The Vault Of Glass is a high-level dungeon in Destiny 1. It is ran by the Vex, who are time-traveling robots. Glass as in silica glass. The entire Vault is an effort by the Vex to gain greater control over time, and to turn their leader, their “Vex Mind”, into what is essentially a God of Time. Naturally, this cannot be allowed to happen, so it becomes time to Raid the Vault. When you begin the Raid, your first task is to open the vault. This requires multiple team members to work. When inside, you learn that you aren’t the first team sent in, but the second. You learn that there are three members of the first team. The one important here is Kabyr. Kabyr was the one that opened the vault for the first team. Later on in the Vault, you come across an enemy called the Gorgan that you have to sneak past. The gorgan is able to use the power of the Vault to retroactively erase any intruders from time itself. Eventually you get a conversation between Kabyr and another member of his team, and Kabyr says “You cannot open the Vault of Glass by yourself. I was the only one there. I opened the Vault, but I was all alone.” What Kabyr is realizing is that of the three members of his team, only he was focused on opening the vault. The fact that they are inside is proof of his success, yet he also knows that it is impossible to open the vault yourself, so he had to have had help. The problem is is that the other two didn’t. How did Kabyr open the Vault? With help. Who helped him? The other members of the team who were retroactively erased by the Gorgan. Kabyr realized that they had more than three members of his team, but all but three team members were lost to the Gorgans, with only the otherwise impossible task of opening the Vault remaining as proof of their existence. There were people, maybe friends, whose only proof of existence is opening a door.
@@Donshades4404 It gets even more depressing when you realise that Kabr's nickname "the legionless" is from all the great things attributed only to Kabr that logically would have to have been done by a group of people. There where his longtime fireteam members that was with him for years that where erased.
The Antiemetics Division hub is one of the gems of the SCP foundation! After wading through a bunch of random SCP entries, finding SCP 3125 was so refreshing and terrifying and made the terror feel so very overwhelming. It also gave meaning to the weird Fifthist Skips that felt like they were just being weird for weirdness sake. They end up being such a clever and integral part of the story! HIGHLY recommend, and it's such a delight to see someone giving these excellent stories their dues!
There Is No Antimemetics Division SINGLEHANDEDLY got me back into the SCP Foundation. I absolutely love this story. The best way I can describe Antimemes is a dream you just woke up from, which you know you had, but can't remember.
All my life as a military brat who moved frequently, I was always searching for my best friend in first grade. My memories of her are technicolour-vivid. After searching for over three decades, I finally found her online and contacted her. Though she confirmed she was, indeed, that little girl all grown up, she had absolutely no recollection of me at all. That was a mindful pop of heavy philosophy to the head...and the heart. 💙
My recommendation. Try to build a relationship of one form or another even som if she is still open to trying and maybe her memory will be jogged eventually.
@@LostArchivist I suggested that and made a few friendly attempts before she let me know she simply wasn't interested in a friendship. This was many years ago. We turned out very differently. That was my first real perspective shift of how experience shapes memory, and how wide is the chasm of perspective between our realities.
@@TeeKing I am very sorry to hear that. But at least you know she is still out there. And you tried and did what you could. It might be hard, but maybe try to find peace in that knowledge at least, if you can.
@@TeeKing I am not sure if this helps you at all. But I have a childhood female friend of a similar situation. But we both remember one another and I contacted her a few years back and are friends on social media. But I never really made an attempt to reignite our friendship. Your story just inspired me to try, because I remember how precious that is now. God bless you! Thank you. :` )
@@LostArchivist Water under the bridge...merely a Poohstick memory that gets gently joggled periodically, as with this brilliantly illustrated video. 'Twas a superlative lesson learned on my philosophical journey.
Neil Gaiman's Neverwhere, starts with the MC becomes forgotten in a similar way. Lonely, isolated and overlooked by everyone he simply stops existing to society. It's really rather horrifying, especially if you realise you can be just as invisible
When I saw the TV adaptation, I have to admit I only clocked that Richard's life hadn't gone back to normal because of his increasingly desperate reaction. It seemed at first to be an utterly relatable situation, that in his mundane life he was involuntarily a Gray Man. But it's deeply satisfying to find someone mentioning _Neverwhere_ on the internet! What an incredible story! I believe, also, that all the residents of London Below are memetically invisible to residents of London Above, unless something really weird happens.
For a non-SCP example, I'd point to The silence, from Dr Who; the moment they are not in your direct line of sight, you forget they exist. Same deal with the 'False Hydra' in D&D.
You probably have no idea what this is, but I’d point to Koishi Komeiji from Touhou. Koishi and Satori were 2 youkai sisters with the ability to read minds. Due to their ability, they were shunned and turned into outcasts, eventually leading to Satori becoming ruler of the underground, a place where all the hated youkai live. Koishi, however, closed her third eye, leading for her to lose her ability to read minds, but killing her consciousness, making her a body controlled only by impulse, and gave her the ability to manipulate unconsciousness. Due to this, she could be standing right in front of you, but you wouldn’t notice, and if she did make you notice, you would forget her right after you look away from her (im not sure why, I’m not an expert on touhou). She reached her goal of not being hated, but in return, she lost her ability to be loved. Note that Satori still knows and worries about Koishi. Either way, Tale foundry needs to make a touhou video.
@@Babbleplay In the movie "The Witches of Eastwick" , Jack Nickolson plays a "devil" character, who's an anti-memetic of sorts. People cannot retain his name and other stuff.
@@Albtraum_TDDC Ooh, yeah, great example. I mentioned the False Hydra, but, it gets even worse; if it devours a victim, everyone who ever met them completely forgets they ever existed. There is a chance to remember, if a character makes a high difficulty Wisdom role, but, the average Joe on the street common villager has little to no chance of passing, and can even lead to a party of player characters with some remembering, and others not.
In X-Men comics one mutant has this power. Can't remember his name... He lives rent free. Travels for free. Food he eats ends up forgotten to have been bought... He knows things... I have read a book where there is a guy everyone forgets how he looks as soon as they look away. He knows things... but on the different way from the mutant. Mutant was there. This guy just tells people something and it turns out to be true. They forget he told them that, but for some reason just decide to do the thing he told them to do. He is very rich. Even though he legally does not exist, people believe he does. He is something of a legend most people who hear do not believe in. Only those who believe he is real can remember to have talked to him, while still not remembering how he looks like or sounds like. He often makes business deals with them or tells them some information that can make them rich. Then the person gets rich. When asked how, they tell others about the forgettable looking man. Those who believed the story become able of remembering him. The guy also does a lot of attention grabbing activities, people then forget. People who believe in him would remember. Then they can recognise him for being so unrecognisable. If he likes them he can make them rich too by telling them to simply be at the certain place at the certain time...
I am genuinely baffled that you haven't reached a million subs yet. The production value, the wonderful visuals, the subject matter, every one of your videos is an absolute must watch. Thank you for all the entertainment you provide!
I haven't dug too deep into the SCP archive but the antimemetics, cognito hazards and all the meta stories have been some of my favorites to hear described. Which is to say I was really looking forward to this one!
If you haven't I recommend reading "We Need To Talk About Fifty Five" and "Ignorance Is Bliss". Another 2 SCP stories where an SCP can make you forget about it/knowledge of the SCP is dangerous
I highly recommend "There is no Antimemetics Division" and it also is up for free on the scp wiki so you can read it right now. The book is amazing and goes very deep into this concept. That story is my favorite SCP creation period. It's also fun to see how much it inspired other writers afterwards as there now are a ton of antimemetics SCP being created.
You know, it's funny, while I'm... 99% certain that this is the first time i'm watching this video, I feel like I had listened this SCP story already in the past, but honestly I can't remember. But funny enough, I think I remember hearing it from you. Or at least someone who narrates like you.
This is probably my favorite short story of all time, so it's awesome to see you cover it! It massively inspired the first full DND campaign I ever ran. The setting was a Nebraska prison in the early 2000's. The players went through their daily lives navigating prison politics, running side hustles, and thinking about how they would escape someday. The strangeness started when they noticed that the breakfast menu felt... a little stale. There was nothing "wrong" necessarily, but they felt like they were eating grits a lot. Then, one day in the showers they felt strange. Their hearts were beating extremely fast and they felt like they were under a lot of stress, but there was no apparent reason. They took a glance around, but didn't notice anything. Until later that day when a body was dragged out of the showers, missing half of its skin. You see, there was a creature lurking. It lived in the corners of their vision, constantly flickering between their dimension and another. Whenever someone looked away, they would forget all about it. Worse, if you died near the creature, every person that ever knew you and ever cared about you would have you carved out of their mind completely. Your roommate would think your clothes were theirs, the books you checked out from the library would suddenly show up as missing, your body would feel like a particularly lumpy mattress... Sticky... The players eventually realized half their cell block was gone and that they had been stepping over their bodies for weeks without thought. The guards were thinning out, too. Their biggest rival had been reduced to a soulless husk by just touching the thing. The only guy on the kitchen staff "had always been the only one working there." The thing is, he probably shouldn't have even gotten the job in the first place. After all, he only knew how to make grits.
Forgetting a thought from just a moment ago sucks. Writing my thoughts down before I lose them is often the only option. Sometimes, I can recall those hopefully not false epiphanies before they're gone forever and getting to do so is such a gift.
The truest anti-meme of all is definitely what ends up transpiring in SCP-5000. A researcher brings SCP-057 (an object that, upon looking away from it, is such a powerful anti-meme than you instantly forget all memory of it, and that it isn't round) to SCP-579, an unknown hole leading to an unknown place, at the bottom of which is an 'answer'. Think of it as putting a square peg through a round hole, and i will leave the ending ambiguous for those curious.
I'm not sure that counts as an anti-meme, because bringing 055 and 579 together appears to completely reset the universe, apparently in a way that prevents those objects from being brought together in the future. So it erases the situation and circumstances revolving around 5000.
The False Hydra from community DnD bestiary is very similar and, reportedly, can be very terrifying and shocking. Basically it is a monster that you cannot remember anything about (including all the events or people linked to it, such as the victims) for as long as it screams, and it stops screaming only when it attacks somebody.
My favorite antimeme story on the SCP wiki simply must be "Note: Your Name is Nobody". It's premise is similar to Introductory Antimemetics, but the story follows Nobody, an antimemetic mystery man type character who is himself being hunted by a fellow antimeme. The story also makes use of Nobody's own GOI format, being written in the style of his own frantic notes trying to keep track of and record the situation he's in, whilst simultaneously losing legibility as he slowly forgets portions of the English language.
when i turned on this video i was started at 17 minut...as if I've already watched this, but don't remember watching this before... now this is really creepy
You've made a video about breaking the fourth and fifth walls, and what I really want to see is a video specifically on the game "The Stanley Parable" which unfortunately wasn't mentioned in that video. It's been nominated for the steam award on storytelling before, and I must say, it is unlike anything else. The different choices you make lead you to different realities. Forget breaking the fourth wall, this game builds its own walls in some places, just so it can break them back down in others. Fun and fascinating stuff. This may be too specific of a topic for a video, but maybe it could be part of one.
This reminds me of sleep paralysis. I've suffered from sleep paralysis since my teens, but I rarely remember any of my past experiences while I'm in the middle of an episode. It feels like the first time almost every time it happens.
Yes. For some reason, I've got sleep paralysis more often when sleeping on a right side or back. As a result, I became unable to sleep when lying like that, because getting used to fear and hallucinations is impossible.
This is why I simply LOVE the world of SCP. Sole do the most unique concepts and idea’s I have ever seen in a story I have discovered via SCP, all joined together into a single world by a bunch a random folk on the internet, creatives that just want to make stuff, and in doing so, have created something truly amazing.
I just found this channel randomly one day and I must say this is sooo good. The music, the animation, the voice over is all top notch. Ggs to the creators, i hope yall get the recognition you guys deserve!
I can gaslit my brain into forgetting, changing or creating memories and think that they happened. Not just memories, but everything. The problem is that most of the time I can't tell which is which and my brain does it every time I remember something so I have to forget it before it's lost.
This is hype as hell! I just read the entire Antimemetics Division storyline two days ago, and there's now a TaleFoundry video based on it! The odds are... suspicious... wait, what was I talking about? Eh, whatever.
Anti-memes are self keeping information, passwords, or secrets you don't want people to know, Anomalous Antimemes are basically that but very weird and as described in the video
Uhhh I hope you're doing better now. This is a situation where the best thing to do is take some time and space from whoever may be gaslighting you, if possible. If it's not, please seek help. You are worth so much. You do not deserve to be manipulated or taken advantage of. You have value.
"There is no antimemetics division" is one of my favorite creative fiction I've ever experienced. The concept of anti-meme and the versatility of it is so captivating. The reader knows what the characters are forced to forget. You have to witness characters making difficult choices and farfetched thoughts because of the lack of information and it doesn't help that little to none of their own memories can even be trusted. And what if the anti-meme is malicious? How the hell do you combat that? How do you fight the war you don't even know you're in? Also tale foundry robot lores?? 👀👀 11:10
You should totally do more videos on scp. It's honestly a really creative space where you can see the most strange pieces of writing you'll ever be able to see
When your memories fail and your mind is getting full of gaps,your brain do its best to fill those gaps,to keep you from going insane,it shatters and rebuild your reality And I think that the real horror of anti- memes.they eat your memories,make yor mind full of gaps and then show you how broken your mind is
Got shivers from this... the series of short stories on the Antimemetics Division is my favourite section of the SCP Foundation. The stories are BRILLIANT.
5:16 Anne: "Anomalies?" Salesman: "Yes, of highest quality. From mechanical, botanical, satanic, and beyond. The spawn that makes you ponder yonder these anomalies! Yes, anomalies. Affordable in this economy? From the wonderful corners of the map we're too dang scared to tap."
Plot twist. The SCP Foundation itself is a sort of anti meme! It’s actually a real organization, but we can only remember the dispersion of their files to the public as an internet project of fictional writing
Alternatively, maybe the SCP Foundation put all their stuff up as "fiction" in the hopes that believing it's fictional will cover up the fact that it's real. Sort of a "refuge in audacity" type of plan.
The antimemetics division is easily my favorite part of SCP lore; I wish more people knew about it. It was exciting when the story was finally finished. I'm glad you covered it!
the fear of the stranger; the not-them, having your own memories changes without having any idea, working with someone for years and not even noticing when they are replaced with someone else entirely. And of course, the spiral, not being able to trust your own mind and memories. all of this feels very much like the magnus archives, with aspects of the lonely as well, i recommend the series 👍
Maybe it's my own poor memory, but I always found the idea of antimemes (and mnestics) absolutely fascinating. The Antimemetics Division(s) have always been my favorite in SCP lore!
You know what's strange? I could have sworn I just watched a youtube video, but I don't remember what it was about at all... All I know is that it was about one of my favourite stories, and that the narrator did an excellent job explaining it. Maybe...
This topic is so creepy! Haha, I got just a little scared for Talebot when he started forgetting stuff at the end there, I thought an SCP was about to show up in the background or something!
Oh, thank you so much for this. I came back to the SCP Wiki after a few weeks away, working on my first attempt at an SCP freeform story, and suddenly anti-memetics was trending everywhere in the community, and I never did figure out where it all came from. I'm quite pleased to discover that this, one of the best stories I read in the subcategory, has become a stand-alone novel!
One of my favorite memories is a blending of two different events that happened on the same day when I was a child. Both my parents confirmed the actual events of the day. My version is better though. So I still remember it fondly, with a little note tag in the bottom that says, "This memory is a summery of events that actually happened. Fictional liberty has been taken."
I was reading SCP entries after seeing this video, and got really creeped out when I started reading this one as I remembered it vaguely, but couldn't recall where from. thanks for giving me a fright!
From my understanding, they are malicious lost souls trapped outside existence trying to get the attention of people inside existence, so they get to exist aswell.
@@marcusrauch4223 Huh, from what I've seen they're usually formed from places of nothingness. File number 0 in numbered files, the gaps between atoms, that one SCP that's a literal sphere of nothingness.
This made me think of a dream i had recently that i had that felt so real that I physically had to check my arms to see if there were actually holes in my arm.
Honestly one thing I love abot this concept is how people have taken the effort to show that life can incorreperate even this weirdness into itself aswell - like the various anti memetic creatures that live at the periphery of ones perception
If you like the concept of an anti-meme, you would love the monster called the False Hydra. It is a monster that can grow new heads like a hydra. It's much scarier though. It sings a song which is anti-memetic. You cannot remember the false hydra while it is singing, thus it remains invisible in plain sight. You also cannot remember anyone whom the false hydra has eaten. Eventually, people exposed for too long suffer a condition akin to split brain, except your non-dominant hand is desperately trying to warn you of the danger within your sight by whatever means possible.
Also, I feel like some of the horror of the AD canon is the Roko's Basilisk-like horror of 5*. It ties in with a number of different SCPs, like 055, 033, Star Signals (1425), and they all have some Fifthist connection. Even SCP-3125 is 5*5*5*5*5. But that's just the symbolic layer. The horror exists beneath that. The bubbling madness that exists everywhere. We are already immersed. It's not the fear of forgetting, for me, at least not entirely. It's the horror of realization, of discovering what you've forgotten. And that's when *it can literally see you*. How can you fight an enemy when you can't even know you're at war? How many Antimemetics wars have there been? What is that giant monument outside Site-40 that I can now somehow see? And why does it make me so sad and afraid?
I love the fact that you made a video on this. It's rare to see someone actually dissect SCP stuff in general. It's surprising how little content there's out there for SCP outside of Wikidot compared to how much content is on Wikidot. The Antimemetics Divison is probably my second favorite hub/canon from SCP. It's just such a well thought out concept that took prexisting SCPs and build an interconnected story around them and some new SCPs as well.
I legit just forgot what i was watching. And what this video was about. I know it wasn't a song, I know it wasn't boring and I know that I didn't hate it
Truly marvelous idea. How can you be sure of anything, if you know, you can't? Great! Another concept to steal! I just need to read that sto... Huh... What was I? Ah, Yes! Genius! Loves your videos! Waiting for more!
This video was my introduction to anti-memes (... I think) and now I'm gonna be hooked. The SCP foundation has always been addictingly fascinating to me, and this concept captures why to me.
What would have really sold the thumbnail would be if there was a mostly complete progress bar at the bottom to show we have already watched most of the video.
5:00 the scp standards include an evil garfield that suffocates victims with lasagna, an infinite IKEA, and a dream-walking dildo. There are no "strange ideas even by scp standards".
I’m actually in the process of writing an SCP nothing to do with the video but it’s nice to see another SCP video your channel has helped me a lot writing it
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Hey i like a lot of your channel and i would like to suggest a video.Marvel abstract entites who i think are very fascinanting concepts .
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7:43 There is no way to prove that anti-memes do not really exist in real life.
Hey I studied an infamous psycho-analyst Jacques Lacan at university. His work could be considered a theoretical framework for what is discussed here as an anti-meme.
His work id say is an attempt I say to teach something that IS an anti-meme. He looked for a way to communicate that which wants to be forgotten.
I recommend you browse the tiny booklet/interview "Jacques Lacan: Television". I remember the provocative first line: "I the truth, I speak". (Moi la vérité je parle.)
When I was 11 years old I learned how to "lie" incredibly effectively by repeating false memories in my mind over and over and over until they felt like real events. I cannot reliably recall most of middle school because I rewrote so much of it with the most rule-abiding version of events or even just convincing myself things I had done were dreams that could be safely discarded from my memories to protect myself from any potential punishments. Anti-memes are a unique horror to me because of that, because you can do it to yourself, on purpose, never realizing how upsetting its going to be for you later
bro is an employee at the scp foundation
I never had a problem sorting out false and true memories myself.
@@Gr3nadgr3gory yeah congratulations on being a normal person
I never developed this skill, it’s completely natural to me. Often times when I lie I get very upset when someone doesn’t believe me, it’s because in the moment I don’t even realize that it isn’t true. I once spent an hour complaining to my mother about my teacher giving me a zero for something I couldn’t help. It wasn’t until after the conversation that I remembered I was lying the whole time. It’s like I can temporarily suppress the real memory until afterwards when I need to remember the truth.
@@Gr3nadgr3gory are you sure about that? :P
The idea of memes, cognitohazards and infohazards, and antimemetics are just so fucking cool conceptually. It has to be my #1 favorite thing to be found in SCP.
If you didn't already then I think you'll like to read "We Need To Talk About Fifty Five" and "Ignorance Is Bliss"
I don't like cognitohazard definition, but the rest is pretty nice.
And Snow Crash, by Neil Stephenson
Their was an anime that was really popular in the early 2000’s it follows a girl in high school who starts a club with a bunch of strange and colorful students as she intends to proves the existence of things like Espers, Time Travelers and Aliens. Seems normal enough until it’s revealed that the students in her club are secretly an Esper, Time Traveler and an Alieb along with one completely average student. It’s revealed to the average student by the Esper that he’s sent by a secret organization of people like him to observe the Club Leader and keep her complacent without her knowledge and the other two are there for the same reason. The reason for it is because she has the power to alter reality on a whim, so seamlessly that no one would notice, not even her. On an even more existential level, none of them can be sure if they all exist because of her. How do you know if you weren’t created yesterday? Because you have memories of your entire life? That means nothing when faced with power like hers, your entire life, all of your memories could be a fabrication. They indulge her fantasies while also working to keep her grounded in reality so that they can maintain order as best they can.
Wait until you learned about Pataphysics and the Anomalous religions
As someone with a rare form of schizophrenia (as in it started effecting me as a small child instead of waiting until my teens or 20's)...this strikes a chord. Like what she said about trusting your own competence. When I finally learned that what I had was hallucinations, not demons like my parents thought, I started sticking close to my friends dogs. Knowing they'd go ballistic if what I saw was actually there, I faced my fears and figured out tells for my hallucinations. Things they for sure could not do, could do, and how to tell real voice from internal voice. from there it was about trusting my own competence. Was that creature there? Everything in me screamed yes, but it tripped a flag that said no, and I HAD to trust myself. Did it always work? Kinda. Turns out even if I logically know it's false, if I get too worked up my subconscious can still overrule. Careening down a staircase with my mouth still screaming "ITS NOT REAL YOU STUPID LEGS STOP STOP." My psychiatrist said my method was very clever at least, was impressed. I'll probably be proud of that the rest of my life.
Medication does a lot. Doesn't make them all go away, just makes them less real. Helps me keep the logic side in control, makes the visions less believable. But the idea that your own senses can't be trusted, what you're seeing and hearing might not be real? memories might be changed or false? Just having to trust in your past self to be right, despite what your current senses say? yeah that strikes an unnerving chord.
Oh god i hope you're doing better.
Why am I thinking of the Nightmare Animatronics from FNAF 4 while reading this?
What you said reminds me of some experiences with night terrors, the moment when part of your brain wakes up but your body is still sleeping and part of your mind is still dreaming so vivid hallucinations is common.
During night terrors you can't tell real from imaginary apart and the sensation of not being able to move your body creates panic, which often brews scary hallucinations.
Anyway, I think you can make people empathize with your condition by telling them "imagine being in a night terror, but it doesn't stop after you wake up"
Bro is fighting his demons, and *he got hands*
What if you could create a sort of weapon in your mind that would only harm your visions?
05-8: "Name one. Name an antimemetic SCP."
Marion: "The Mind Goblin."
05-8: "What's a mind goblin?"
Marion: "Mind goblin' deez nuts."
*gets shot*
scp-055 (UNKNOWN), EZ.
@@brainygaming92'EZ' translated to 'NO' apparently and that is perfect
@@brainygaming92it's... Not round
@@Catterjeeo wut?????? what language???
@@Catterjeeo TH
Reminds me of a D&D story I heard. The PCs throughout their encounters kept finding a greater than average number of healing and utility potions throughout their journey. Towards the midgame they ended up fighting a memory devouring horror of some sort. It's revealed that the healing and utility potions were their minds justifying their survival after the memory of the cleric who was with them was erased in that battle. (out of character the GM was on the newer side and didn't know how deadly encounters were or could be, this was a post-hoc justification for over-doing the healing potions). However only the _memory_ of the character was erased. The cleric is and has been there the entire time, continuing to protect and heal their comrades, even though no-one remembers them.
That's actually really cool
That's a False Hydra. Not kidding that it's one of the most interesting home brewed creatures to ever grace D&D forums. The song it sings makes you stop perceiving it, past memories of it and all. But the scariest thing is that once it eats you, it makes you and any memories of you disappear (until you get it to stop singing by killing it or making yourself deaf). It's basically an excuse to gaslight players in terrifying ways, too bad it doesn't work on players more than once.... They definitely won't forget what you made them deal with. I highly recommend dungeon dads video on it if you are interested!
Not quite a false hydra. If it had been a false hydra he would have had to have been eaten to be forgotten. Since he was helping but forgotten and imperceptible, it had to have been something else.
Pretty sure its false hydra
@@faizalqorni7969 Nope. You gotta get eaten by the false hydra to be forgotten.
There is no antimemetics division is my favorite short story hands down
"We Need To Talk About Fifty Five" and "Ignorance Is Bliss" are also great
qntm’s whole antimemetics series is just pure SCP tales gold
so true, it changed my life
@@Window_ig "We Need To Talk About Fifty Five" is a part of the "There Is No Antimemetics Division" book. The entire story is amazing.
This is actually my favorite series in the foundation and I love it so much
Under normal conditions, what you don't know can hurt you.
In the SCP memetics division, what you know can hurt you.
In the SCP antimemetics division, what you *can't* know can hurt you.
There is no antimemetics division. The antimemetics division does not exist... what was I talking again?
@@kamishin7135 what even is an "antimemetics"?
@@kamishin7135 why "again"? You didn't talk a thing
Say what guys?
My mind went to The Silence from Doctor Who. They are a creatures created to act as living confessionals, you can only remember them when you are looking at them and the moment your line of sight is broken you instantly forget them and even any conversations you had with them will be forgotten. They can implant suggestions by saying a command, then when you loose sight you have this random thought or idea that popped into your head from nowhere. But you will never remember The Silence themselves.
Same, I was comparing this to the silence for the whole video!
It's also kind of similar to the dream crabs (the ones that look like face huggers) that feed off your brain while keeping you in a dream reality, and are only alive while you think about them.
But it's mostly just similar to the silence.
Ironically enough… I'd forgotten about the Silence.
The Silence are definitely an inspiration for antimemetics
same
7:20 You said an anti-meme is "knowledge that is difficult to hold onto or retain" which immediately reminded me of dreams, sometimes you wake up with the knowledge of what happened in the dream, but it slowly starts to be forgotten, and there are some dreams you don't remember.
thats so true!!
And then there are dreams you remember for months and months. I had a nightmare almost a year ago and it still sometimes freak me out when it just pops out in my brain out of nowhere. Does that mean anything?
Omg yea that’s so true, one time when I was in a dream I tried my hardest to remember every little thing that just happened but it’s like the memories immediately evaporated. When I woke up however I could remember some of it. It might have something to do with the fact that the prefrontal cortex which is responsible for short term memory, deactivates during dreaming.
I remember trying ao hard ro remember some dreama yet, I forgot them, and even thoug they are so hard to remember, some of my most vivid memories are dreams.
I recently discovered that all the supposedly false memories I have in dreams, of having dreamt of something before, and of having encountered something in my dreams in real life, aren't really false. It turns out that I still have recurrent themes in my dreams, but I remember less of my dreams than when I was a child and dreamed endless variations on a few dreams.
When I think I remember having dreamed a dream before, but can't confirm that once waking up, it's probably because I dreamed myself thinking up the concept in one of those deeply unmemorable dreams where I dream I am lying in bed thinking brilliant and profound thoughts. Turns out that occasionally, amidst all of that slow-wave drivel, I dream concepts that my subconscious later returns to in vivid, full-narrative dreams.
I think what makes anti-memes so interesting is that, in the extremes of SCP, they objectively exist but they can’t subjectively exist, they do exist but they can’t be perceived and that is so intriguing, how something can still be ‘real’ but cannot be proven to exist and no one can even recall it’s existence.
I've read the book There Is No Antimemetics Division and I still wonder if the concept of anti-memes is something unique, legitimate and coherent or just a glorified mix of imperceptible monsters, memory-suckers and infohazards
@@stravvmanI feel like they're all of those things, but that it doesn't make the whole thing less unique and legitimate... The beauty of qtnm's writing in my eyes is how he relates the subjective experience of antimemetics: the profoundly jarring interactions between memory and forgetfulness, the despair of working around SCP-3125, all of it turns a somewhat tempting "what if?" scenario into story I found incredibly compelling. Despite all the imperceptible monsters, memory suckers and inevitable attempts at cosmic horror.
I can’t help but feel like I’ve seen this video already. Like I can almost speak it word for word, like I’ve memorized it, but I swear I haven’t watched it before. It’s like Deja Vu, but I swear I haven’t watched it yet.
Same
I don’t 😢
A Deja Vu is actually similar to what is explained in the video.Your Brain lost some memories and tries to patch them up with what you are seeing right now.
I get that all the time.
Have… have we spoken to each other before?
There Is No Antimemetics Division is, hands down, THE best long-form writing on the SCP Wiki. I think really its only downside is that the plot does revolve around yet another incomprehensibly powerful world-ending monster, but as far as incomprehensibly powerful world-ending monsters go it’s fairly unique and the way it’s used in the story is pretty effective.
And the ending is severely dissatisfactory but that's due to the process behind it and one can't put the blame on qntm.
only longform scp story i have read, if there are others that come close please do tell me
@@alfredfeldt5694 Personally I really enjoyed Project Palisade.
@@alfredfeldt5694I consider End of Death to be as good as Antimemetics. Maybe you like it
@@alfredfeldt5694Rounderhouse's Red Tape is an amazing one that I've started reading although it isn't fully completed as of the time of this comment.
imo, the most terrifying part of anti-memes is that they could very easily exist in our real world and we'd have no way of knowing it. How could we ever know something exists when it's impossible to recall or record information about it?
I mean they probably don't exist because that would break every law of our brain that we know of, but yes. It is horrifying to think about
Not quite wise to assume something is not real just because it sounds absurd
I mean there are infinite colors we just see so few of them.
Camouflage (or at least, the types most people think of when they hear the word) works by getting caught in noise filters in your brain's visual processing
I find it hard to believe there would be nothing between that and an all-consuming anti-meme like you describe
The antimemetics stories do make a point of saying that non-anomalous antimemes do exist. Stuff like strings of random numbers. Not impossible to remember, but information that's really hard to remember because it's nonsensical or boring, that kind of thing. Not really scary stuff, but interesting when you think about it.
That's it. I'm expanding the antimemetic aspects of my magic systems now. Look what you've done.
"There is no Antimemetics Division" is one of my favorite SCP stories. I re-read it every few months. It works great with "Five Five Five Five Five" and "What the Dead Know"!
I’m so happy to see this. There Is No Antimemetics Division is my favourite SCP story, if not one of my favourite stories of all time.
One interesting thing about the First Day story that wasn’t included in the video: Paul believes that he and the other researchers were fresh recruits, getting taken on a tour of the site by a senior staff member.
Later, when he is rushing through the site, he only *then* notices that the entire building is almost utterly deserted. As previously it had not occurred to him to think of it as strange.
In addition, now that he is affected by Alastair (am I spelling that right?), he is actually able to perceive the bodies of the other staff who’ve already been killed.
This shows that Alastair’s effect operates as a kind of “bubble”, where once he/it pulls you in, you become able to perceive everything else that is being hidden (which is why only people affected by Alastair were able to access his/its file).
The first time he noticed the emptiness of the site is actually shortly before seeing Alastair, when he's looking around the cafeteria, and he thought it was strange then too. He recalls these observations later to speculate if/how Alastair is causing this.
I'm so glad this channel looks at SCP stuff. It's a criminally underrated story telling platform and a lot of people just dismiss it as the thing that has monsters written by random people. In reality, it's filled to the brim with amazing unique concepts, whole stories like the one featured in this video, and much more, all that is open to the public and can be used and added to as you wish.
it's literally a playground for thought experiments :)
Its quite the place. A great way to test ideas and see how people like them.
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The one about pattern screamers was one of my favorites. I always wonder if unconscious cells can come together to form a conscious brain, can conscious brains come together to make a higher order conscience? Is Humanity a person?
Pattern screamers seem similar to me. They’re about what causes conscious and what can be conscious
Some are wholesome, others are odd, yet others are just sad. Then there are the joke SCPs for when you want some nutso stuff that'll likely put you in stitches. There's stuff buried so deep in the rabbit hole you might only find it once. The SCP wiki really is a wild ride.
Antimemetics are by far my favorite type of anomalies, the mere fact that you cant learn something about the thing or anything at all about something is extremely unnerving, having mental voids of knowing you did something or knowing there was something is a scary feeling, and knowing the things hides its features from you makes it even more terrifying.
there are 2 great scp stories one where the knowledge is dangerous ("Ignorance Is Bliss") and another where it's the creature that can make you not able to remember anything about it ("We Need To Talk About Fifty Five")
just search on google and you can read it
It is also neat that Antimemes are almost the antithesis to the foundation.
@@vkgamimg8493 Duuude, I didn't even think about it like that! I remember a while ago trying to make an antimemetic and couldn't come up with a way to write one, I guess that makes them even more special, I always remember how 055 is remember just by what it isn't, such as it not being alone nor stupid, and how ••|•••••|••|• is one of the most creative articles on the site, having dozens of pages to explain the story of a single entity cannot be compared to what it feels to understand what ••|•••••|••|• is about.
Man, I love antimemetics.
Phew. I've struggled with paranoid schizophrenia and/or DID (my doctor & therapist are still unsure about my exact diagnosis...) for years now. Forgetting things, everyday life stuff, but also major events, traumatic events, everything, it's sadly very normal to me. It only "got better" by me writing down everything I needed to remember, because eventually, it would always get lost somewhere inside my brain. My therapist always says, it's kinda like "my cords/cables are switched up". Like, sometimes there's is no connection to a memory at all, sometimes there is one, but I won't be the one remembering, but one of the other people within me. It's kinda tough, but I've learned to live with it. Just... This concept of "not being able to trust your own memory" strikes me quite hard, since I always doubt my memories due to the way I was brought up (lots of gaslighting, yaaay). It really is a cool concept though.
sounds like you’ve gotta work on that “unwavering confidence in your own competence,” good luck mate ❤
when i was like 8, i taught myself how to lie so effectively that i essentially believed that everything i said was true, even when it wasn’t. i would basically make up a TON of stories and then repeat them, over and over again (telling them to my friends and family, writing it in my journals etc.), until i had tricked myself into thinking that they were actually true. that’s why i can’t reliably remember a lot of things from fourth grade up until fifth grade-i had rewritten so many things to make myself the good guy and the hero. i’d convinced myself that everything terrible i did in that time period had never happened or were just overly realistic dreams. anti-memes are definitely a special genre of horror to me, because at its core, it’s just the same thing i was doing back in that period in my life.
9:50 I can't imagine what life must be like for those with perfect, photographic memory. Being able to recall every tiny detail of your life with crystal clarity, while certainly useful, sounds like it would slowly become maddening.
I suppose it would be maddening for us who have a capacity to forget, but why would 'never forgetting' be maddening to someone who can't? It's the only existence they have ever known.
as someone with photographic memory, first of all, I've never gone mad from remembering too much, second, I've also had my fair share of thinking that an event happened irl, but in reality it happened in a dream, and viceversa, and that's just one example of the times I've accidentally gaslit myself
It can be very painful, some times, having a good memory. Therapy and meditation helps, quite a bit, with not getting overwhelmed by re-experiencing intense feelings.
@@Someone-sc2hk Yeah, I figure having a very sharp memory for some senses doesn't mean having one for all of them. Recalling visual images isn't the same thing as recalling sounds, neither of which is the same as recalling "stories", which is what most of the memory of our lives consists of.
@@Bluelyre there are somethings that are painful enough to be worth forgetting i experience something akin to photographic memory although the existence of photographic memory is itself a debated topic
This man is risking his life exposing SCP Foundation files to public and I respect that
GO AWAY
WHY ARE U EVERYWHERE
@@sonak78 You see him on every video you watch, too?
@@Izmael_a prolly a bot tbh
they couldent find him anyway he is safe from the MTFs
As someone who experiences "memory blindness" (the memory is there, but filed in the wrong cabinet, so to speak), I find antimemetic recovery fascinating. The main ways I work around memories that are hard to recall are through, notes/alarms/reminders and through finding an outline of a hole in my memory and following it until I find where it connects with something seemingly unrelated, usually through retracing my steps backwards or forwards from a known point. It can be extremely difficult at times, and tends to be unreliable, but the fact that it works at all is incredible, especially given the relative accuracy of the recollection when done this way. It has also given me a bit of insight into how my mind catalogues memories and how they connect more like a wiki than a book, bouncing from concept to concept, with only a bit of chronological information that usually must be deduced rather than remembered. I can follow a thread of concepts back and forth through time in my life without even trying, but putting it all in order takes significant mental effort.
There are a number of facts about my life that I only remember because I remember having remembered them, forming a chain back to the event itself. And with that "confidence in self competence" idea, I trust that I was right when I first recalled the memory shortly after the event, and all the times I both remembered the event and remembered having remembered the event. Now, having lost the memory of the event itself, I still know it happened because I'd confirmed it to myself already.
I do not remember most of my childhood due to some VERY traumatic memories, as well as having to deal with depression. It completely erased a LOT of it, and I still struggle with memory loss. A lot of the things I know about myself come from other people describing what I'm like to me. I sometimes wonder how strongly I've been changed simply by going along with what the person they perceive me as would do. It's a fear that I've grown used to though, or at least I think I am. When you're essentially a blank slate of a person with shreds of personality shining through, you learn that you don't really know anything.
The SCP Foundation seems to be an endless source of inspiration for these kinds of videos.
This was a pleasant surprise, I was a huge fan of There is no Antimemetics Division and am glad to see it get some attention here
There are so many unique and wonderfully engrossing entries on SCP, but Antimemetics is easily my favorite. It truly pushes the bounds further than anything else, in such a fascinating way.
Same.
Talebot is such a fantastic character.
its just the youtuber going by a different identity 😐
@@DeadPixel_yes, and it works perfectly
@@DeadPixel_and that's a great thing.
@@user-mr6tg1yw2g yeah it is, hope u didnt get the wrong idea, im a huge fan of tale foundry, but to say talebot is some masterfully written character when its literally just the youtuber is a lil silly
@@DeadPixel_ Psh, yeah right. Next you'll say Ami Yamato isn't real…
Another great anti-memetic story is the first Fireteam to go into the Vault of Glass in Destiny. One by one they all get "erased" from time rather than just killed. Reading how each of the Guardians cope with this is really interesting.
that is existential erasure not anti memetics. an anti meme still exists, those Guardians effectively never existed in the first place (but existential erasure via time manipulation is not 100% infallible)
Well, from the point of view of someone afflicted with antimeme the erased event/person/thing has never existed in the first place. It's also retroactive. And while the erasure in Destiny is more complete I think that if someone has been wiped by an antimeme to the point no one remembers he ever was, he might as well not exist.
For those who are wondering what these guys are talking about, The Vault Of Glass is a high-level dungeon in Destiny 1. It is ran by the Vex, who are time-traveling robots. Glass as in silica glass.
The entire Vault is an effort by the Vex to gain greater control over time, and to turn their leader, their “Vex Mind”, into what is essentially a God of Time.
Naturally, this cannot be allowed to happen, so it becomes time to Raid the Vault.
When you begin the Raid, your first task is to open the vault. This requires multiple team members to work. When inside, you learn that you aren’t the first team sent in, but the second.
You learn that there are three members of the first team. The one important here is Kabyr. Kabyr was the one that opened the vault for the first team.
Later on in the Vault, you come across an enemy called the Gorgan that you have to sneak past. The gorgan is able to use the power of the Vault to retroactively erase any intruders from time itself.
Eventually you get a conversation between Kabyr and another member of his team, and Kabyr says “You cannot open the Vault of Glass by yourself. I was the only one there. I opened the Vault, but I was all alone.”
What Kabyr is realizing is that of the three members of his team, only he was focused on opening the vault. The fact that they are inside is proof of his success, yet he also knows that it is impossible to open the vault yourself, so he had to have had help. The problem is is that the other two didn’t.
How did Kabyr open the Vault? With help.
Who helped him?
The other members of the team who were retroactively erased by the Gorgan.
Kabyr realized that they had more than three members of his team, but all but three team members were lost to the Gorgans, with only the otherwise impossible task of opening the Vault remaining as proof of their existence. There were people, maybe friends, whose only proof of existence is opening a door.
@@Donshades4404 It gets even more depressing when you realise that Kabr's nickname "the legionless" is from all the great things attributed only to Kabr that logically would have to have been done by a group of people. There where his longtime fireteam members that was with him for years that where erased.
The Antiemetics Division hub is one of the gems of the SCP foundation! After wading through a bunch of random SCP entries, finding SCP 3125 was so refreshing and terrifying and made the terror feel so very overwhelming. It also gave meaning to the weird Fifthist Skips that felt like they were just being weird for weirdness sake. They end up being such a clever and integral part of the story! HIGHLY recommend, and it's such a delight to see someone giving these excellent stories their dues!
There Is No Antimemetics Division SINGLEHANDEDLY got me back into the SCP Foundation. I absolutely love this story. The best way I can describe Antimemes is a dream you just woke up from, which you know you had, but can't remember.
Aren't anti memes that meme trend where they described exactly what was happening in the meme photo
@@QUBIQUBED Did you watch the video
All my life as a military brat who moved frequently, I was always searching for my best friend in first grade. My memories of her are technicolour-vivid. After searching for over three decades, I finally found her online and contacted her. Though she confirmed she was, indeed, that little girl all grown up, she had absolutely no recollection of me at all. That was a mindful pop of heavy philosophy to the head...and the heart. 💙
My recommendation. Try to build a relationship of one form or another even som if she is still open to trying and maybe her memory will be jogged eventually.
@@LostArchivist I suggested that and made a few friendly attempts before she let me know she simply wasn't interested in a friendship. This was many years ago. We turned out very differently. That was my first real perspective shift of how experience shapes memory, and how wide is the chasm of perspective between our realities.
@@TeeKing I am very sorry to hear that. But at least you know she is still out there. And you tried and did what you could. It might be hard, but maybe try to find peace in that knowledge at least, if you can.
@@TeeKing I am not sure if this helps you at all. But I have a childhood female friend of a similar situation. But we both remember one another and I contacted her a few years back and are friends on social media. But I never really made an attempt to reignite our friendship. Your story just inspired me to try, because I remember how precious that is now.
God bless you!
Thank you. :` )
@@LostArchivist Water under the bridge...merely a Poohstick memory that gets gently joggled periodically, as with this brilliantly illustrated video. 'Twas a superlative lesson learned on my philosophical journey.
Neil Gaiman's Neverwhere, starts with the MC becomes forgotten in a similar way. Lonely, isolated and overlooked by everyone he simply stops existing to society. It's really rather horrifying, especially if you realise you can be just as invisible
When I saw the TV adaptation, I have to admit I only clocked that Richard's life hadn't gone back to normal because of his increasingly desperate reaction. It seemed at first to be an utterly relatable situation, that in his mundane life he was involuntarily a Gray Man.
But it's deeply satisfying to find someone mentioning _Neverwhere_ on the internet! What an incredible story! I believe, also, that all the residents of London Below are memetically invisible to residents of London Above, unless something really weird happens.
For a non-SCP example, I'd point to The silence, from Dr Who; the moment they are not in your direct line of sight, you forget they exist. Same deal with the 'False Hydra' in D&D.
You probably have no idea what this is, but I’d point to Koishi Komeiji from Touhou.
Koishi and Satori were 2 youkai sisters with the ability to read minds. Due to their ability, they were shunned and turned into outcasts, eventually leading to Satori becoming ruler of the underground, a place where all the hated youkai live. Koishi, however, closed her third eye, leading for her to lose her ability to read minds, but killing her consciousness, making her a body controlled only by impulse, and gave her the ability to manipulate unconsciousness. Due to this, she could be standing right in front of you, but you wouldn’t notice, and if she did make you notice, you would forget her right after you look away from her (im not sure why, I’m not an expert on touhou). She reached her goal of not being hated, but in return, she lost her ability to be loved. Note that Satori still knows and worries about Koishi.
Either way, Tale foundry needs to make a touhou video.
@@MostlyTriangle oh, awesome. That would be a good one to watch.
@@Babbleplay In the movie "The Witches of Eastwick" , Jack Nickolson plays a "devil" character, who's an anti-memetic of sorts. People cannot retain his name and other stuff.
@@Albtraum_TDDC Ooh, yeah, great example.
I mentioned the False Hydra, but, it gets even worse; if it devours a victim, everyone who ever met them completely forgets they ever existed. There is a chance to remember, if a character makes a high difficulty Wisdom role, but, the average Joe on the street common villager has little to no chance of passing, and can even lead to a party of player characters with some remembering, and others not.
In X-Men comics one mutant has this power. Can't remember his name... He lives rent free. Travels for free. Food he eats ends up forgotten to have been bought... He knows things...
I have read a book where there is a guy everyone forgets how he looks as soon as they look away. He knows things... but on the different way from the mutant.
Mutant was there. This guy just tells people something and it turns out to be true. They forget he told them that, but for some reason just decide to do the thing he told them to do. He is very rich. Even though he legally does not exist, people believe he does. He is something of a legend most people who hear do not believe in. Only those who believe he is real can remember to have talked to him, while still not remembering how he looks like or sounds like. He often makes business deals with them or tells them some information that can make them rich. Then the person gets rich. When asked how, they tell others about the forgettable looking man. Those who believed the story become able of remembering him. The guy also does a lot of attention grabbing activities, people then forget. People who believe in him would remember. Then they can recognise him for being so unrecognisable. If he likes them he can make them rich too by telling them to simply be at the certain place at the certain time...
It’s weird how I just saw this in my subscription feed but it already had the red “watched” line under it
I am genuinely baffled that you haven't reached a million subs yet. The production value, the wonderful visuals, the subject matter, every one of your videos is an absolute must watch. Thank you for all the entertainment you provide!
I haven't dug too deep into the SCP archive but the antimemetics, cognito hazards and all the meta stories have been some of my favorites to hear described. Which is to say I was really looking forward to this one!
If you haven't I recommend reading "We Need To Talk About Fifty Five" and "Ignorance Is Bliss". Another 2 SCP stories where an SCP can make you forget about it/knowledge of the SCP is dangerous
I highly recommend "There is no Antimemetics Division" and it also is up for free on the scp wiki so you can read it right now. The book is amazing and goes very deep into this concept. That story is my favorite SCP creation period.
It's also fun to see how much it inspired other writers afterwards as there now are a ton of antimemetics SCP being created.
You know, it's funny, while I'm... 99% certain that this is the first time i'm watching this video, I feel like I had listened this SCP story already in the past, but honestly I can't remember. But funny enough, I think I remember hearing it from you. Or at least someone who narrates like you.
The opening narration was very reminiscent in style of SCP Explained.
It’s because this channel has done quite a few videos now on “what if we couldn’t trust our own minds ooooh how spooky”
@@SteveJubs that notion is far more frightening than your statement suggests.
I remember, I've read about it (it's a tale, not an object in the list)
this channel had a few scp videos before, but they were deleted i think
This is probably my favorite short story of all time, so it's awesome to see you cover it! It massively inspired the first full DND campaign I ever ran.
The setting was a Nebraska prison in the early 2000's. The players went through their daily lives navigating prison politics, running side hustles, and thinking about how they would escape someday. The strangeness started when they noticed that the breakfast menu felt... a little stale. There was nothing "wrong" necessarily, but they felt like they were eating grits a lot. Then, one day in the showers they felt strange. Their hearts were beating extremely fast and they felt like they were under a lot of stress, but there was no apparent reason. They took a glance around, but didn't notice anything.
Until later that day when a body was dragged out of the showers, missing half of its skin.
You see, there was a creature lurking. It lived in the corners of their vision, constantly flickering between their dimension and another. Whenever someone looked away, they would forget all about it. Worse, if you died near the creature, every person that ever knew you and ever cared about you would have you carved out of their mind completely. Your roommate would think your clothes were theirs, the books you checked out from the library would suddenly show up as missing, your body would feel like a particularly lumpy mattress... Sticky...
The players eventually realized half their cell block was gone and that they had been stepping over their bodies for weeks without thought. The guards were thinning out, too. Their biggest rival had been reduced to a soulless husk by just touching the thing. The only guy on the kitchen staff "had always been the only one working there."
The thing is, he probably shouldn't have even gotten the job in the first place. After all, he only knew how to make grits.
That is scary as fuck and sounds like such a blast to play
Forgetting a thought from just a moment ago sucks. Writing my thoughts down before I lose them is often the only option. Sometimes, I can recall those hopefully not false epiphanies before they're gone forever and getting to do so is such a gift.
The truest anti-meme of all is definitely what ends up transpiring in SCP-5000. A researcher brings SCP-057 (an object that, upon looking away from it, is such a powerful anti-meme than you instantly forget all memory of it, and that it isn't round) to SCP-579, an unknown hole leading to an unknown place, at the bottom of which is an 'answer'.
Think of it as putting a square peg through a round hole, and i will leave the ending ambiguous for those curious.
I think you got your numbers wrong
Well, I read it all. The whole SCP-5000 page. And it's just as ambiguous on the page.
I'm not sure that counts as an anti-meme, because bringing 055 and 579 together appears to completely reset the universe, apparently in a way that prevents those objects from being brought together in the future. So it erases the situation and circumstances revolving around 5000.
The False Hydra from community DnD bestiary is very similar and, reportedly, can be very terrifying and shocking. Basically it is a monster that you cannot remember anything about (including all the events or people linked to it, such as the victims) for as long as it screams, and it stops screaming only when it attacks somebody.
Honestly, I REALLY wish WOTC would make the false hydra canon. It is such a good monster
That was such a cool idea
would the opposite of a false hydra be a meme?
@@torazelymaybe they keep forgetting to
Wait that implies that the deaf are immune.
My favorite antimeme story on the SCP wiki simply must be "Note: Your Name is Nobody". It's premise is similar to Introductory Antimemetics, but the story follows Nobody, an antimemetic mystery man type character who is himself being hunted by a fellow antimeme. The story also makes use of Nobody's own GOI format, being written in the style of his own frantic notes trying to keep track of and record the situation he's in, whilst simultaneously losing legibility as he slowly forgets portions of the English language.
the nobody cannon is my second favourite, after antimemetics
when i turned on this video i was started at 17 minut...as if I've already watched this, but don't remember watching this before... now this is really creepy
You've made a video about breaking the fourth and fifth walls, and what I really want to see is a video specifically on the game "The Stanley Parable" which unfortunately wasn't mentioned in that video. It's been nominated for the steam award on storytelling before, and I must say, it is unlike anything else. The different choices you make lead you to different realities. Forget breaking the fourth wall, this game builds its own walls in some places, just so it can break them back down in others. Fun and fascinating stuff. This may be too specific of a topic for a video, but maybe it could be part of one.
This reminds me of sleep paralysis. I've suffered from sleep paralysis since my teens, but I rarely remember any of my past experiences while I'm in the middle of an episode. It feels like the first time almost every time it happens.
Yes. For some reason, I've got sleep paralysis more often when sleeping on a right side or back. As a result, I became unable to sleep when lying like that, because getting used to fear and hallucinations is impossible.
I love the way he integrates ads into the video, he is one of the few that doesn't make me straight up skip the ad part of the video. Impressive.
MandJTV, SuperCarlinBrothers, Tomska (along with Tomska and Friends), and Ryan George also do really good adspots on their videos.
This is why I simply LOVE the world of SCP. Sole do the most unique concepts and idea’s I have ever seen in a story I have discovered via SCP, all joined together into a single world by a bunch a random folk on the internet, creatives that just want to make stuff, and in doing so, have created something truly amazing.
I just found this channel randomly one day and I must say this is sooo good. The music, the animation, the voice over is all top notch. Ggs to the creators, i hope yall get the recognition you guys deserve!
Welcome
I can gaslit my brain into forgetting, changing or creating memories and think that they happened. Not just memories, but everything. The problem is that most of the time I can't tell which is which and my brain does it every time I remember something so I have to forget it before it's lost.
This is soo... wait, what were we talking about
aedi oN
How could you forget?
It’s a… is about….
what was i trying to write
It's- huh? What?
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh?
I actually have forgotten this multiple times and just this, each time I see this in my likes I remember then I forget again and again
This is hype as hell! I just read the entire Antimemetics Division storyline two days ago, and there's now a TaleFoundry video based on it! The odds are... suspicious... wait, what was I talking about? Eh, whatever.
Isn’t an anti-meme that one imagine of that guy holding green liquid going “finally, green liquid”
Not in this context-though it is anti-humor
Anti-memes are self keeping information, passwords, or secrets you don't want people to know, Anomalous Antimemes are basically that but very weird and as described in the video
I cant believe they finally discovered green liquid
lowkey hits different when I genuinely can't tell if someone in my life is gaslighting me or if I'm just misremembering things 💀💀
Uhhh I hope you're doing better now. This is a situation where the best thing to do is take some time and space from whoever may be gaslighting you, if possible. If it's not, please seek help. You are worth so much. You do not deserve to be manipulated or taken advantage of. You have value.
"There is no antimemetics division" is one of my favorite creative fiction I've ever experienced. The concept of anti-meme and the versatility of it is so captivating.
The reader knows what the characters are forced to forget. You have to witness characters making difficult choices and farfetched thoughts because of the lack of information and it doesn't help that little to none of their own memories can even be trusted. And what if the anti-meme is malicious? How the hell do you combat that? How do you fight the war you don't even know you're in?
Also tale foundry robot lores?? 👀👀 11:10
You should totally do more videos on scp. It's honestly a really creative space where you can see the most strange pieces of writing you'll ever be able to see
OH MY GOD, YES!
I absolutely love the Antimemetics Division series! Thank you so much for returning to SCPs to talk about this masterpiece.
When your memories fail and your mind is getting full of gaps,your brain do its best to fill those gaps,to keep you from going insane,it shatters and rebuild your reality
And I think that the real horror of anti- memes.they eat your memories,make yor mind full of gaps and then show you how broken your mind is
Got shivers from this... the series of short stories on the Antimemetics Division is my favourite section of the SCP Foundation. The stories are BRILLIANT.
This is called a "memory hole" which leads to memes resurfacing. Memes by nature are etched into our minds and therefore our genetics.
5:16
Anne: "Anomalies?"
Salesman: "Yes, of highest quality. From mechanical, botanical, satanic, and beyond. The spawn that makes you ponder yonder these anomalies! Yes, anomalies. Affordable in this economy? From the wonderful corners of the map we're too dang scared to tap."
man, i wish that show didnt die :(
Plot twist. The SCP Foundation itself is a sort of anti meme! It’s actually a real organization, but we can only remember the dispersion of their files to the public as an internet project of fictional writing
Well, if they exist, at least we have a semi idea of how to deal with certain SCPs lol. If the ones we know are the ones that would exist
Thats not an antimeme thats just a coverup
Alternatively, maybe the SCP Foundation put all their stuff up as "fiction" in the hopes that believing it's fictional will cover up the fact that it's real. Sort of a "refuge in audacity" type of plan.
Tale foundry Robot lore is E X P A N D I N G
The antimemetics division is easily my favorite part of SCP lore; I wish more people knew about it. It was exciting when the story was finally finished. I'm glad you covered it!
the fear of the stranger; the not-them, having your own memories changes without having any idea, working with someone for years and not even noticing when they are replaced with someone else entirely. And of course, the spiral, not being able to trust your own mind and memories. all of this feels very much like the magnus archives, with aspects of the lonely as well, i recommend the series 👍
Person 1: what is scp 55?
Person 2: oh scp 55 is a-
Person 1 : did i ask?
Person 2: ask what?
For trauma survivors, the ability to forget over time is a blessing.
I would love to see the rest of the Antimemetics Division story chain like this!
Maybe it's my own poor memory, but I always found the idea of antimemes (and mnestics) absolutely fascinating. The Antimemetics Division(s) have always been my favorite in SCP lore!
bro you have GOT to release that intro theme with an extended version it is absolutely beautiful.
You know what's strange? I could have sworn I just watched a youtube video, but I don't remember what it was about at all...
All I know is that it was about one of my favourite stories, and that the narrator did an excellent job explaining it. Maybe...
That means I’ll forget it when I stop watching too xD
@@kingmewto7148 forget what?
@@hexateron I mean forget the video
This topic is so creepy! Haha, I got just a little scared for Talebot when he started forgetting stuff at the end there, I thought an SCP was about to show up in the background or something!
But... I thought... one did. Didn't it?
Made you look!
Oh, thank you so much for this. I came back to the SCP Wiki after a few weeks away, working on my first attempt at an SCP freeform story, and suddenly anti-memetics was trending everywhere in the community, and I never did figure out where it all came from. I'm quite pleased to discover that this, one of the best stories I read in the subcategory, has become a stand-alone novel!
One of my favorite memories is a blending of two different events that happened on the same day when I was a child. Both my parents confirmed the actual events of the day.
My version is better though. So I still remember it fondly, with a little note tag in the bottom that says, "This memory is a summery of events that actually happened. Fictional liberty has been taken."
Tale foundry always makes us sm- wait when did I even open youtube?
I feel like ADHD could be an effective counter to this.
I forget by myself, who knows what stays afloat in the sea of oblivion that is my mind?
Forgetfulness + an anti memetic would just lead to extra confusion
This is so intresting. this will be so usefull for my book. Hope I won't forget about this.. well, with this thumbnails there is no chance
I was reading SCP entries after seeing this video, and got really creeped out when I started reading this one as I remembered it vaguely, but couldn't recall where from. thanks for giving me a fright!
I definitely remember reading all of "There is no Antimemetics Divison" but i don't have nor can I remember where I found it
Oh boy I can’t wait to [REDACTED]!
While I do acknowledge that Antimemes are a difficult topic to understand, they're relatively easy compared to Pattern Screamers.
From my understanding, they are malicious lost souls trapped outside existence trying to get the attention of people inside existence, so they get to exist aswell.
@@marcusrauch4223 Huh, from what I've seen they're usually formed from places of nothingness. File number 0 in numbered files, the gaps between atoms, that one SCP that's a literal sphere of nothingness.
@maximvandepoll3008 Both of you can be right, my headcannon is that they came from the First Hytoth as described by the Church of the Second Hytoth
Aren’t they tortured Alien souls from past universes? Or am I mistaken
@@Mondy667 Maybe they have several different origins, with individual groups transforming into the same thing.
This made me think of a dream i had recently that i had that felt so real that I physically had to check my arms to see if there were actually holes in my arm.
Honestly one thing I love abot this concept is how people have taken the effort to show that life can incorreperate even this weirdness into itself aswell - like the various anti memetic creatures that live at the periphery of ones perception
If you like the concept of an anti-meme, you would love the monster called the False Hydra. It is a monster that can grow new heads like a hydra. It's much scarier though. It sings a song which is anti-memetic. You cannot remember the false hydra while it is singing, thus it remains invisible in plain sight. You also cannot remember anyone whom the false hydra has eaten. Eventually, people exposed for too long suffer a condition akin to split brain, except your non-dominant hand is desperately trying to warn you of the danger within your sight by whatever means possible.
Great video!
I assume.
I don't remember.
I think I liked it?
Oh well, great job anyway!
YES! Doing the Antimemetics Division! I love it so much!
Welcome to the Antimemetics Division. This is not your first day...
Also, I feel like some of the horror of the AD canon is the Roko's Basilisk-like horror of 5*. It ties in with a number of different SCPs, like 055, 033, Star Signals (1425), and they all have some Fifthist connection. Even SCP-3125 is 5*5*5*5*5. But that's just the symbolic layer. The horror exists beneath that. The bubbling madness that exists everywhere. We are already immersed.
It's not the fear of forgetting, for me, at least not entirely. It's the horror of realization, of discovering what you've forgotten. And that's when *it can literally see you*.
How can you fight an enemy when you can't even know you're at war? How many Antimemetics wars have there been? What is that giant monument outside Site-40 that I can now somehow see? And why does it make me so sad and afraid?
I love the fact that you made a video on this. It's rare to see someone actually dissect SCP stuff in general. It's surprising how little content there's out there for SCP outside of Wikidot compared to how much content is on Wikidot. The Antimemetics Divison is probably my second favorite hub/canon from SCP. It's just such a well thought out concept that took prexisting SCPs and build an interconnected story around them and some new SCPs as well.
I remember all my life perfectly if i focus enough any memory comes by.
I legit just forgot what i was watching. And what this video was about. I know it wasn't a song, I know it wasn't boring and I know that I didn't hate it
7:43 "anti-memes don't exist in real life"... How would you know? How would you even prove that they don't exist? 🤔
Truly marvelous idea.
How can you be sure of anything, if you know, you can't? Great! Another concept to steal! I just need to read that sto...
Huh... What was I? Ah, Yes! Genius! Loves your videos! Waiting for more!
This video was my introduction to anti-memes (... I think) and now I'm gonna be hooked. The SCP foundation has always been addictingly fascinating to me, and this concept captures why to me.
What would have really sold the thumbnail would be if there was a mostly complete progress bar at the bottom to show we have already watched most of the video.
5:00 the scp standards include an evil garfield that suffocates victims with lasagna, an infinite IKEA, and a dream-walking dildo. There are no "strange ideas even by scp standards".
"he introduces himself as Alastair Gray" ...oh no. I remember this story only too well
Keep up the good work. Could you do a video on the show hilda
Oooooh I would like that!!!
@@lilyofluck371 yeah, I know right. It’s such a good show
I’m actually in the process of writing an SCP nothing to do with the video but it’s nice to see another SCP video your channel has helped me a lot writing it
The irony of plugging a sponsor about learning things in a video about creatures that make you forget what you've learned is not lost on me 😂
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YOU WILL FORGET THIS COMMENT
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How did you make an empty comment?
I've never knew you could do that?
I did as we all expected
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