In-Depth: Kwikset Premis HomeKit Smart Lock Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2024
- The Premis is Kwikset's first entry into the world of devices powered by Apple's HomeKit home automation technology, but it's certainly not their first smart lock. Overall, it's a solid performing remote-control smart lock, and the front touchscreen is an added bonus!
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I like how you pointed out yelling Siri to bypass the lock I never thought of that, I will keep that in mind for any of my gear, thank you, I learn something everyday!
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Pretty good review, but we can use some discussion on the blue tooth connection. That seems to be the weakest link in a lot of these smart locks. This is an issue when an Apple TV is not located close enough to the lock.
Often the front of back door lock will not be close to an Apple TV. This issue needs to be discussed more.
A very good solution would be for the lock to have a wifi connection instead of, or in addition to bluetooth.
Thanks for your kind words. Bluetooth is generally chosen for battery-powered devices like locks, sensors and the like for longer battery life. There are few "smart" devices that are battery-operated that use Wi-Fi, for this reason. Bluetooth LE has a realistic range of 40-60 feet, although that can change based on walls, objects, etc. Bluetooth 5 was adopted in December by the Bluetooth organization as the new standard going forward, and products that will utilize it will have even longer range, better battery life and faster data rates. In the Smarter Home Life "home studios", for example, the Apple TV is roughly in the center of the home, and does get reasonably good signal even from the Elgato Eve Weather sensor. That sensor is located outside and mounted in a tree and is roughly 40 feet away from the ATV, and the Bluetooth signal has to go through at least one wall.
As the "connected devices" / "smart home" category has grown rapidly in the past five years, some parts of the industry chose to adopt the existing Bluetooth standard instead of coming up with their proprietary standards...at least for HomeKit and some other segments. There are, however, an array of battery-powered sensors that use existing, dedicated standards like Zigbee and Z-Wave. Apple chose not to use them for HomeKit, most likely for maximum compatibility with existing iOS devices and other Apple products.
The industry continues to grow rapidly, and competition is both helping and hurting it at the same time. It will still take some time, at least another 1-2 years, to start to see the real winners appear, and some industry consolidation that will result in more widely-accepted standards. Until then, it is (sadly) a bit of a mess.
Yeah, I figured it had something to do with battery life.
I enjoy watching your series... Thank you!
This is a great lock. Makes life so much simpler.
Indeed!
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My Armorax security system is compatible with this door lock and being able to lock and unlock doors from my phone has made my life so much easier!
I understand that it is bluetooth and there is probably a range in which it will respond. You did mention something about configuration via apple tv. Is this the route you could go to be able to unlock/lock from just about any location? Hopefully I didn't misunderstand. Thank you!
Mr. Greene yes uses your iphones location with geofence
Thanks for the excellent video! I am really enjoying the HomeKit features.
I never bother with Siri. I always feel left out with that joke 😂
Can you set it up remotely?
Thanks so much for an awesome in-depth review! I was looking through EVERY smart lock and this is most likely the pick for me.
The error when locking seems to happen when the deadbolt encounters too much friction. My accessone deadbolt has the same problem. The fix is simple but a pain. You have to make sure that the strike plate on the handle holds the door so that the center is perfectly lined up with the deadbolt above. If it's off even a tiny amount you get resistance or worse the deadbolt bumps up against the strike plate which causes it to retract. The accessone that I own has been out for almost 15 years, you would think that after 15 years of making electronic deadbolts Kwikset would have figured out a fix.
That does make sense, truly. But it's really weird, because there is zero friction with this lock's deadbolt as installed, whether the door is open or closed. I tend to think it's really an over-sensitive position encoder/sensor. It fully extends (throws) the deadbolt, so I just don't get it :-/
I want this lock so bad! But i live in The Netherlands and deadbolt locks aren't available. I hope Kwikset comes with european locks as well
There are some conversion locks, like Friday and the soon-to-ship Sesame lock, which are supposed to work with locks internationally. The conversion locks don't have the touchscreen, but do just about everything else :-)
Whats the difference between Premis and 916 smart lock? It looks the same lock in the video.
Nice picture of Amsterdam on the background,..
~Gwenndolynn
Thanks!
I like this one, just need to move out of this damn apartment now before I can get this stuff lol
For apartments, the August smart lock and the new Friday smart lock are great, since they just replace the inside portion and don't require you to re-key and all that stuff. Also, Kwikset just introduced the Kevo Convert, which looks similar to the Premis on the inside, and it's also a "conversion" smart lock and keeps your existing key and deadbolt intact :-)
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Hi, is there any smart lock with Wink Hub can allow me set up pass codes for a visitor access my home on schedule date and time REMOTELY? Thanks.
Wilson Ou the Smartcode 916 works with SmartThings which I would assume makes it wink compatible
Definitely use the App for setup. I tried a manual setup using their install guide but had no luck. When I used the App to install. It went like a breeze. A fine product.
I had this lock a good rain came and made this lock not work I took it right back to Home Depot.
I found that when the battery start to get a little age on the. The lock bolt will not go as far to and it think it’s jamed I found that I would have a week cell in the 4 batters. Hope that helps other excellent video thanks for taking time to make it
Thanks for the info, and your kind words!
A great video! Uber informative!!
Can you add and remove codes wile you are not in your home WiFi range? Using Apple TV. And can the codes be set to work on only the date and time you choose? For a rental property.
Does anyone know how to change the time on the lock? When I go to lock activity it’s set a few hours off. If I change the time to pacific or eastern to try and reset it it doesn’t work.
Good review and tips
Great video on this lock system. Quick question. I'd like to use this system in our small office building ... maybe 10 locks. Can all of them be controlled by a single app on my iPhone? or do I have to have a separate app for each lock? Thanks
Thank you for your kind words on the review! Yes, there shouldn't be any trouble in controlling all of them from the Home app or another HomeKit-enabled app. However, to control them from away from your building you'd need an Apple TV to "bridge" the locks back to your iPhone. Otherwise, you'd only be able to access them when in Bluetooth range of the locks.
When you get the jam indication, can you open and close the lock through the app to unjam it? Or do you need physical access to the lock to un jam it? My concern is that it jams when I am not home or traveling.
+Ed Private Yes, you can. And many times, it will clear the jam unless it's physically "really" stuck.
Hi:
I wonder if you can review the samsung keylocks. They look very sofisticated but don't know a lot about them. Your show is great, keep on with the good work!!
Thanks very much. Indeed the Samsung locks look very good, will keep it in mind for the future.
Speaking of "what's her name", every time I talk about Alexa at home I have to whisper her name so she doesn't answer. It's kind of awkward and I feel like I'm talking behind her back or that she's some evil person like Voldemort.
I just hate when the commercial comes on.. lol
Elvis S you can change alexa name. Amazon give you the option of calling her by another name. You would need to google it, i am not sure of the other option.
Elvis S lol She who must not be named
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I had to return my kwikset aura lock. It only worked via Bluetooth and that was useless to me because I wanted to control it from anywhere besides in range so kwikset told me to buy the Halo because it has wifi Bluetooth and google asst can control it plusbi get notified when someone enters or leave my home I will install it tomorrow
Excellent review. Do you like this better than the August?
Thanks. I've since switched back to the August. I did really like the keypad function, but the lock itself was so finicky about being "fully" locked and it would beep and error a lot at certain times of the year based on the doors swelling a bit. The August seems to be more accommodating as it runs its calibration.
Is there a quick way to explain the differences between zigbee, z-wave, and whatever the premis lock uses?
What smart lock would you recommend for best features , reliability, notifications, online usage?
It's tough to explain all of that in a TH-cam comment. Zigbee & Z-Wave are dedicated home automation communications systems with dedicated radios, setup to be a stronger network as more devices are added. HomeKit is a proprietary mix of highly-encrypted Wi-Fi and/or Bluetooth communications. Unfortunately they're really apples and oranges. Advising on smart locks is equally challenging, there are "convert models" like the August smart lock where you don't change your deadbolt, and others like Premis, Schlage Sense, etc.. where you change the entire lock.
Smarter Home Life Thank you.
Does the Premise work well with Alexa? Or is the Halo Better for Alexa? Ty
Does this require two factor authentication to work with home kit or with my apple tv? My setup at home is that i do have an apple tv 4th gen and a Airport extreme set up. Also I don’t have two factor authentication setup.
Does this lock require any type of wireless home setup or hub?
Nope. If you'd like to access it from outside your home, then yes. But otherwise for basic control from your iPhone, the lock is the only thing you need. In an ideal world, you should have Wi-Fi setup at home for your iPhone and other wireless devices but that isn't required with this lock.
Thank you very much!!!
I have a Kwikset Titan accessone remote deadbolt that I bought something like 12+ years ago (still works great) and it seems quieter than the unit in the video.
I keep an eye out for a new deadbolt but nothing really jumps out at me. Well maybe the Samsung locks but they still don't work with smarthings.
what if you bought one of these locks and set it up with siri and had a homepod,somebody could shout through the letterbox saying"Hey Siri, Unlock Door
Grate in site, thank you. It makes me think twice now since the cabaña is in the mountains with cold and humid weather. After what is a android based system you really suggest ?
There isn't necessarily an "Android" version, but Kwikset does make other smart locks (links in description / article) that work with other home automation systems vs HomeKit. Another good choice is the August smart lock, which can work directly with Google Assistant and Amazon's Alexa.
why does this lock keep going offline?
Do you feel like it drains your phones battery life , due to constant on Bluetooth.
Nope. The Bluetooth connection between devices like these goes into a sleep or low-power mode after a period of inactivity. It still remains "paired" to the phone via HomeKit but isn't always in a "constant connected" state. Personally, I haven't experienced any significant battery life decrease with any of the HomeKit or other Bluetooth-based home automation devices over the years.
Smarter Home Life cool thx
I was wondering can we add and delete user codes when we are away from home if we do not have Apple TV? To elaborate, I know I can add/delete user codes through the Premis app, but would the lock receive that change immediately just through the app? Or does doing anything away from home must be through Apple TV?
The issue is that the Premis user codes have to be managed from their app, which can only communicate to the lock over Bluetooth. The Apple TV "relay" connection can sadly only be used for HomeKit control.
Thanks for the review - is the Kwikset App free to use?
Yes
do you recommend this smart lock over the previous lock you had for 2 years ?
Not necessarily, as they can be for different applications. The August is a smart lock upgrade device for those who don't want to replace their entire lock. The Kwikset Premis replaces the entire lock, but also has special features like the touchscreen which make it a more capable device. It really comes down to your needs. It's not quite an apples to apples comparison.
Joe, which do you think is a better product, the Schlage Sense or the Kwikset Premis?
The Premis has some superior features, such as the keypad randomizer. Although the Premis is the only of the two that I have hands-on experience with, and haven't experienced any issues with in nearly 6 months of use.
A reason could be because the hole is not deep enough
what is the name of the app
Hi, thanks for the great review. I am wondering is it like the usual kevo lock, which the lock status can only be retrieved if we are nearby with bluetooth connected? It is impossible to remotely control it or to know if someone opens the door? Same questions go to August smart lock, but it seems like we still can buy August Connect for remote control and IFTTT.
This particular model is still Bluetooth-only. But, if you have an Apple TV 3rd gen or newer, it will act as the bridge to your network so you can check the status via your iPhone when not near the lock. August now operates the same way for those in the Apple world, and otherwise needs the Connect device for remote access. Kwikset also makes other versions that look identical to the Premis for Z-Wave and Zigbee, which can connect to SmartThings, Wink, and other hubs.
will it work with android
Mine wont lock do you know how
Is this the $49 on home depot?
Yo Stop nooo more like 200
Good vid bro!
Thanks!
So, if my cabana is in the mountains , what do you suggest really knowing that nothing is worse than spend time at - 20 C trying to open a jammed door?
Feel safer viewing home when away
Intruder punches through the glass and turns the lock open from the inside.
What do i need to create create user access remotely?
To remotely access the lock from outside of your home's Wi-Fi network, you'll need an Apple TV to provide the translation between the lock and the outside world.
Smarter Home Life thanks for the prompt reply.
Or an iPad.
Can u make a video about installation tutorial?
A tutorial for installing this lock? It's already documented very well by Kwikset in an interactive format, and it doesn't make sense to replicate it for the review video.
@@SmarterHomeLife You did not mention how you fiddled with the cable to make it fit without binding. Very disappointed by this part of the set up process.
Hi Joe, would you be ok with me sharing some of your videos on my website? I would of course credit you, and all hits will (I assume) add to your numbers. If it’s not ok, that’s also fine.
Sure, anyone can embed the videos. What is your website?
Hi, I’ve just recently set up homekitnews.com (homekitnews.com). So, as you can guess, it’s all about HomeKit!
Cool. Nice site. I can send you a proper logo to use instead of the image that you created with the logo and text. Shoot me a message joe@smarterhomelife.com Thx
Smarter Home Life, thanks. I’ll send you a message with my email address for the logo. I’ve linked your website to the logo and your TH-cam channel on the animated TH-cam logo.
“Hey ****, unlock the front door!”
Works with andriod
is this thing work with android if not does not worth a penny.
It is worth a penny, at least. There are versions of this lock that work with other smart home systems, which do also connect to Android.
Get to it!
Hey, maybe I missed it in your video. what hub do you use to bridge homekit & the kwikset?
Hmm...well by default it will "bridge" to other HomeKit devices via any iOS device (iPhone, iPad, etc.) But to get control of the Kwikset Premis from outside your home's network you'd need an Apple TV. Hope that answers your question :-)
So the kwikset is wifi capable? There's no hub such as samsung smartthings or any other hub to connect the kwikset to Apple Homekit?
Sorry if somehow if perhaps it was not clear in the video. The Premis is just Bluetooth, no Wi-Fi is onboard. This particular lock only works with HomeKit, but Kwikset makes identical versions of this lock that work with Zigbee and Z-Wave, which do work with SmartThings and other hubs that support those technologies. No one currently makes a hub that can cross-connect HomeKit devices to other HomeKit devices other than Apple - the Apple TV. See this link for more details: www.kwikset.com/products/styles/smartcode-916-touchscreen-electronic-deadbolt.aspx
thanks dude. I'm starting my home automation too
Smarter Home Life have you tried the schlage Sense? I'm currently testing it but I like the smart key and the screen on this one. If you have which one do your prefer?
Does this work with Alexa ? If not can you do a video on one or let me know which one works best with Alexa . Thanks ...
This particular lock, no. But other versions of this lock, as mentioned in the video work with hubs like SmartThings...which do support Alexa.
Nice stuff.. bit on pricey side though..
Yeah, it's a problem with most of these smart locks. Lockitron's Bolt smart lock is only $99, but offers just basic functionality (Bluetooth only).
Common sense would dictate you’d put the bags down first. 😗
Do you know if they fixed the SmartKey vulnerability in this lock? I see that this uses the smartkey system, and that vulnerability is what kept me from going with a Kevo for my front door. Info about that vulnerability th-cam.com/video/H1mmjVvMsGs/w-d-xo.html
Also, do you know if there is any smart lock system like August that works with Medeco Maxum deadbolts? I have been wanting to get the August, but I know it doesn't work with Medeco. And I wasn't wanting to get rid of the Medeco for security and cost reasons.
Suffice it to say, the video you linked to doesn't quite tell the entire story, and its comments show it. There is no lock that is completely safe. The fact is that dedicated lock-picking / forcing tools are not readily available. Kwikset and other companies design their locks, both with and without their "quick re-key" technologies, to be as safe as possible with generic tools. If someone truly wants to get into a building, they'll probably just go through another entry point instead of attempting to pick the lock.
There are some newer smart locks coming onto the market that are "conversion" locks like August. The Friday lock is now shipping, and the Sesame lock is about to begin shipping. Also available is the Kevo Convert, which looks like the interior portion of the Premis but doesn't require the deadbolt & front portion itself to be changed out.
Thought it was a ventriloquist
Bought one of these cause the Wife wanted a stainless body and the tech this lock comes with. Just south of $300 Canadian pesos. Went to install it yea I am a 52 year old yea old mechanic. Could not get the d shaped shaft to align between the lock set and the driver. The driver was clocked 180 out of time with the lock set. Oh want this thing in the original packaging smashed it into the box took it back to home depot checked out the new one in the parking lot clocked correctly really some asshole on a Friday had an early start on the weekend. Dropped this shaft into the injection moulding machine 180 degrees out because he smoked a fatty on Thursday night. NOT FUCKING IMPRESSED. Anyways rainbows and unicorns new one fits and performs as promised. Wasted 3 hours out of my life for home improvement.
Did you mention this feedback to Kwikset?
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Not great product low very low quality. Made in Mexico. Brakes in 3 month.
why apple is over is history make something with android apple will disapear few years from now
Android would be smart to create an integrated home automation system similar to HomeKit, then it would be more of an exact comparison.
I hate it
Trash lock