How Mumble Rap Lost Its Cool
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Often grouped together as a cultural ill, the concept of “mumble rap” dominated the hip-hop narrative for years at a time. Once viewed as one sub-category of the artform by those who reviled it rather than a collection of artists all striving towards individual goals, today ‘mumble rap’ is no longer a term that harbors any shred of validity to it. And by the same token, pledging your undying hatred for it as a ‘sub-genre’ now feels utterly redundant and embarrassing in its own right.
As time separated who had talent from those that capitalized on a moment in time where skill seemed to matter less than meeting a simple criteria, the applicable traits of what was thought to be ‘mumble rap’ were taken and rehosted into more artistically fleshed-out music by those with the ability to do so.
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All things come to an end. What y’all think the next wave gonna be?
idk but all i gotta say is detroit is really goin nuts rn lol
its already here, this generation kids love melodic trash ass “rappers” and call polog the greatest to touch a mic🤣
Tap dancing.
Drill
Hard to tell tbh. Hip hop has always been about the drums not so much the melodies. What defines the "trap" sound is the low rumbling 808, crazy hi hat patterns, and use of triplets in both drums and flow. I can't imagine what could improve on that formula, but I hope someone else can and soon because I feel like trap is on its last legs. I've heard producers tweak the 808 by adding distortion or even playing it in reverse, but if they keep using it in those same rhythms its still going to have the same feel. Maybe there's a chance it'll start sounding more like early-mid 2000's hip hop similar timbaland/neptunes productions with rich futuristic sounding synths and more variation in drum sounds and patterns, but with a modern twist.
The fans grew up
"...One day, them kids that's listening gon' grow up
And get too old for that shit that made you blow up
Now your show's lookin' light cause they don't show up
Which unfortunately means the money slow up
Now you scramblin' and hopin' to get hot again
But you forgot you only popped 'cause you was ridin' trends..."---- J. Cole
Lmao
Forreal I was a teenager when that list came out
J cole know what he talking about
Larry Jake goat
When you base your whole career on riding a wave, your career crashes when the wave does.
You came retreat with the ocean and come in with the next wave.
Or merge with the sand.
🤔
Facts
Happens in every genre of music,.
Unless you evolve!
“1985” by J. Cole
“When day them kids that’s listening, they gonna grow up. And get too old for that shit made you blow up.”
Yep...Cole foretold this nonsense was gona fade...
Back in the old days it was the bars that made up for the beat, now the beat makes up for the bars, and the vocals are just for a vibe
“Only real music last, all that other bullshit is here today and gone tommo...”
The realest quote regarding music, actual factual. Everytime I hear that, bring a smile to my face 💯
Mmm Idek bought that
Do ya mean gone tommoooorrrrooow
who said that again?
Theodore Bouchet intro on Pound Cake/Paris Morton Music 2
21 Savage has evolved
His evolution was dope AF.
Definetly evolved from album one to album two.
Agreed.
21 Savage was from the beginning a gangsta rapper with a more serious tone to his music. Afterwards he started to become an almost concious rapper up to the point of having J. Cole as a feature. He ended up winning a Grammy
21 was never a mumble rapper imo. He just came out around the time style was taking off.
I never cared for mumble and Soundcloud rap. I used to ask my friends what they liked about it, and they said the beat. I asked them if they liked the rapper or the beat more. Usually, it was the beat.
Then whats the point of the rapper? Its such a stupid argument people make and the reason why most of these rappers are a dime a dozen, because people just ignore how awful they are with the excuse that they like the beat. Its like defending a book because you like the paper, not the words. Half the time a lot of these rappers can't even make coherent songs, and just lower the standard when they get popular by clowns who just claim they like the beats, even though most trap beats are pretty much the same slow snare tap in most songs anyway. This soundcloud generation really helped make rap shitty today.
For me it’s a matter of how it makes me feel, the lyrics aren’t serious they’re goofy and catchy and it just makes me have a good time when I listen to music I do it to have fun not to closely listen because it’s considered “good”
@@GeteMachineTrue sh*t. The tin can roof beats and incoherent mumbling fvcked the game up big time.
As a metal head first I learned pretty early on that there is going to be movements in your preferred genre you just don't get. I don't think any other genre has spawned so many offshoots as metal or has gatekeepers as stubborn. Music is going to evolve. Have to learn that you don't need to personally like something to accept and not be a tool about it. Crunk core is a perfect example and it touches both rap and metal. It's bad. It's also perfectly valid.
We need more Metalheads like you. I can go from Schoolboy Q, Kendrick Lamar to Dying Fetus and Black Sabbath
Metal YUCK🤢🤢
@@brooklyn1daful Lol metal encompasses too many genres. You like some form of it, you just don't know it.
@@brooklyn1daful You are the perfect example of what his comment was talking about, Deadpool.
@@badxgrass I mean I don’t like metal but doesn’t mean it’s bad lol. All genres of music can bring something to the table and are cool in their own right imo
Uzi: i make feel good music.
Yachty: i make positive music.
21: i make murder music 🗡️.
Damn 🤣🤣🤣🤣
How can mumble rap be out if nothing is here replacing it?
Feel like 21, “issa knife”
Trayvhon McCall true
@@JayColeBoy what?
Does a video on a old head topic, gets an old head sponsor lol
Samad Savage 😂😂
Facts dumb ass topic for a clout chasing youtuber 😂😂 sad to see
The puns are strong in this one
Did not expect to be reminded of my ongoing hair loss lol.
LMAOOOO
people that can enjoy and appreciate all forms of music and don’t think they are better just cuz of the music they listen to >>>
banger
wrong at all
That’s because we’re young bro, just give it a few decades, we’ll probably be ragging on the new gen just like these old heads talking about how they’re not as melodic as Uzi or some shit. I’m gonna try not to be that way but that’s how it is with humanity and aging
Mos Def himself said, "if you wanna know where hip-hop is going, ask yourself where you are going". Ppl are gonna enjoy this turn up music in high school, then they will eventually grow up. Look at 21 for an example, he's wayy more mature now. Even Lil Baby has broken the mumble rapper mold and he made some conscious hip hop.
Ppl like Polo G are the next step. He takes the trap style of mumble rap he grew up with, but he's more mature than that so he comments on street life and his music is pretty conscious too.
Hip hop is going to a good place. We just have to have faith in the younger generation
Throw in dababy as well
@@weekendwarrior5732 true Kirk was pretty good tbh but he kinda reverted back to just straight turn up music lol
Is that IAMJAYCE as your profile pic lmao
@@no1u521 yessir
@@weekendwarrior5732 man I love dababy but his quality and his music has gotten greyscale lately.
Short answer: People are 3 years older and out of high school
I literally was about to comment this
Do high schoolers really listen to this trash?
yea but we listen to lil uzi and 21 savage still there just not considered mumble rappers
@@backupstandup5465 no one over the age of 12 listens to that trash
nu metal guitarist speak for yourself bub
HipHopMadness: Mumble rap lost its cool
BlackySpeakz: Mumble rap doesn't even exist
Recruit
MUMBLE rap does not Exist
That's a FACT
It does exist it’s a colloquial term that encompasses all low skill level, non rappers .
It doesn’t exist. It’s all art.
Isaiah Stubbs some forms of art are clearly lesser... Mumble rappers are out here drawing stick figures while a lyricist paints pictures.
I swear these videos don’t be saying shit, just convoluted sentences that sound intelligent but really have nothing of substance lol
Lol
Ong feels like he had to make his essay 3 pages long
you are correct as the whole point is to keep you on the screen long enough to squeeze in more ads. The whole game is dragging out your attention not having substance, Its so wack
So true its like he's just talking and its spinning im my ears
So annoying
It sound good tho. Talking bout shit that we all lived through like we wasn't there
Mumble rap has evolved since its inception 6 years ago.
Those that evolved along with it and found their own sound/styles (Carti, Uzi, 21, NBA etc) are arguably the leaders of a new age of rap going into the 2020s.
While those that only rode the mumble rap wave and refused to change (Pump, Xan, Desiigner etc) simply died along with the trend.
Preach 🙏
these names suck
As much as I don't really like the whole "mumble rap movement", I completely understand why it became so popular. It was something different, creative, and something new. I think people are little by little getting over it, but the one thing that I really don't agrere with is how wide the boundaries of hip-hop are. The fact that IGOR is considered a hip-hop album just goes to show that either people havent heard the damn album or it gets thrown in there bc tyler is a black male hip hop artist
Arya Mazandarani how is igor not hip hop
Arya Mazandarani creative? They’re all defendants of Young Thug who is a descendant of Lil Wayne and 95% are flow biters
Mw this is the most accurate take-Wayne has had crazy influence on the rap game and the follow up to that was Thug, who has had so many rapping styles and melodies over the years, eventually other people start to sound like him
Mori Kriman It would really be easier for you to explain how it is Hip Hop
@@jayvondavis1558 its a fusion of hip hop and soul with a lofi flair
RIP The Soundcloud Rap Era
2016-2019
69 is from the sound cloud era and he made billboard #1 couple of weeks ago. Uzi has 26 billboard charting songs this year. Don’t think you know enough 😬
@@abdullahraja4740 69 got to one cuz of nicki hes actually shit
@@justarandomguy7224 69 had a bunch of #1 songs before Nicki though
@@abdullahraja4740 just because those artists are still active doesn't mean the soundcloud era has persisted. The era ended with Juice Wrlds death and 6ix9ines trial among other things. Maybe you should do some research yourself instead of insulting people.
@@SCF721 no he doesn't he a bunch of top ten hits but only one number 1 single
Not gonna lie this was a stain on the game im kinda glad there are more skilled rappers coming in the game now
like who?
I was in college when these guys were at the top. That was all we played. That 2016 class was at the frontlines of popular music. I still listen and these guys are all almost gone, and a new wave is here. I do really like these newer guys but it is sad to feel old lol
I was in high school and even then I wasn't down with most of them because they really were wack, there were more underrated artists comin' out at the same time who didn't get the same fame cause they weren't jumpin' on that train.
No lie but Melodic rap is taking over right now
Can you name me upcoming melodic artists/rappers and put me on?
@@BirdieImagineeBCH stay solid rocky
imaginee Roddy Ricch, Rod Wave, NBA Youngboy, Young Thug, YNW Melly, etc.
nu metal guitarist okay sure your opinion. But I myself like all rap and love the variety that it has very broad genre and I prefer music/beats to rapping and a lot of “mumble” rappers have the best production imo especially the biggest of all mumble rappers Playboi Carti the beats he uses no other rapper could get on them because they’re not suited for rapping but they sound great and carti does what he can with the beat given
nu metal guitarist music is completely subjective so nothing is really trash
2015-2019 era of Rap should be remembered like every other one. We got good and bad music, but what we did get was the ability of rappers coming from independent backgrounds with crazy or wacky personalities and fashion sense, to be successful while keeping their own style without bending over for a major label.
A big problem I see with this generation in hip-hop is just the lack of competition. When everybody has their own lane, that means nobody has to compete. Where there's no competition there is no discipline. Without discipline, there is no cause for greatness.
Well said!
The rappers today not sounding like rappers back then, and rapping different is to be expected. Young people are always rebellious and don’t like doing what older people tell them to do, they like doing their own thing. The younger generation being rebellious isn’t just rap its society in general.
And even then keeping rap the same would end up being the same as the death of rock. The same style was so overused in the 80s that it killed the genre
@@prod.eenigma exactly
Mumbling about bitches, money and drugs is so rebelious right lol lol. You know who was a REBELL? machine head, sepultura, system of a down
@@koolkid533 there is NOTHING rebellious in being a no talent drug addict
Rap is rap
Believe or not this is not a new phenomenon. In Jazz, they had something called scatting which they would rhythmically say nonsensical words as part of the song
Very underrated comment, this is not new. But just like mumble rap today it sort of died out.
Check out Yungd1se on IG, he has a small following from rapping without any actual words. Fucking hilarious
@@alfredmohammed9197 Agreed
@Luke Ik this has nun to do w anything but yachtys real name is miles 😂
@@alfredmohammed9197 Jazz as a whole died out
Mumble rap In general can’t compare to the old school greats of that time lyrics, bars rhymes and insane beats.
I never cared for mumble rap from its inception. However, I understood its importance in the genre and how it gravitated people in with its melodic style and eccentric characters. Yet, at the end of the day, people grow up and yearn for substance and complexity. So, if the people don't evolve or grow they get left behind like so many fads before it. That's exactly what's happening: kids are growing up, artists are not popping the way it was like in the beginning, oversaturated the market and no long term goals.
It’s had it’s run and it died in 2019. You have to have skills there’s no way around that.
Amen lol
Lil uzi and future are still popping
@@edk487 last ones hanging on. Real skill is coming back.
@@edk487 Uzi, Future, Lil Baby and even Gunna have the best selling albums this year lol and Thugger, Migos and 21 will drop and go platinium and some consider Travis a mumbler too but he still the hottest out but every year old heads be like "skill is coming back" lmao
I mean my favorite rappers are all lyrical but what they call "mumble rap" isnt gonna die cuz rappers like Future who been consistent since 2010 or Thugger who birthed a whole generation arent gonna fall off just like that by tomorrow
Cool Libra remind me someone w “real skill” who popping rn...
If it sounds good, Ill listen to it. 🤷♀️ Every song doesnt need amazing lyrics
true but it can’t sound fkn brain dead either
Thank you! Music is just supposed to sound good to whoever think it's sounds good to. If you want amazing bars there's artist that give you that
But there are artist that can make music sound great and have amazing lyrics
Exactly
A song is lyrics put to music. The lyrics are very important.
Not everyone can stay consistent with bangers and stay relevant like Future and Young thug , they are the goats of the trap industry
2016 is still my favorite XXL Freshman cypher. I still listen to listen to a lot of Lil Yachty and Lil Uzi Vert.
I think "mumble rap" was something that HAD to happen for the culture, it had to be gotten out of the way. But the fact that nearly all the rappers from the 2016 XXL Class ended up successful showed it was more of a stepping stone other than a stage in the history of rap.
I don't really see the correlation. Their success only shows there was a demand for it.
@@sereroserera367 I like it man I don't want it to die
@@sereroserera367 most have evolved. Besides, idk how one can listen to lil uzi or 21 savage and say it's mumble.
Playboi carti, future, kodak (some songs) are all actual mumble
like teledubbys?
@@xxnirvandabossxx8304 kid
“Mumble rap” started in the south as their own local sound, but as those guys got more popular & ppl from other plces started listening they either fucked with it or hated it like most new things that come out.
It was a fusion of thick southern accents accompanied by “trap” slang from the south with a melodic take on rap(sometimes lean thrown in there lol..).
Eastcoast is known for more lyrical based content, it makes sense why nyc rappers were some of the more vocal ones about how they couldn’t understand it & sorta ripping on the newer sound as a whole.
Some of the influences i think took hiphop here are:
Weezy for his late 2000s style of melodic auto tune rap, in comparison to a tpain who also used auto tune but was known more for cleaner radio friendly kinda style where as lil wayne was just as raw on his auto tune type tracks.
Gucci mane for his lyrical content , accent & slang as a whole . As in talking about trapping, hustling, or jus his street sense & terms in general.
Chief keef for fusing gucci and weezy while adding his own sauce to the mix, but most importantly being young and connecting to younger fans, he brought it all to a whole new generation & paved the way for everyone after in a sense
I didnt think this comment would end up being this long, but i really thought about it for a minute lol. Up for debate on it tho ahaa.
Much love, thanks for reading, i could really go on and on lol
EDIT** added to what i meant about Guccis lyrical content. Not gona take the time to fix the typos or fill in the slang here lol jus wanted to create room for a convo
U think Gucci lyrical and not Lil Wayne!?
James Hamilton lil wayne is in my top5 lyricists of all time ! Love weezy aha. I guess i shoulda added I meant gucci’s lyrical content about trapping, hustling, his street sense & terms in general, weezy forsure contributed to the new waves lyrical content too but they’re not as bar heavy as lil wayne
Spencer fully agree ! I feel like it falls under the “melodic rap” umbrella rather than “mumble”, but everything you mentioned are deff their own respective subgenres.
There’s cross overs between collabs or artists fusing other sub genres but there’s still room to differentiate to categorize
@@acanadianeh8344 Ok
Spencer honestly i feel like if drill can find a way into the mainstream sound it deff can be more than a street/underground culture. With bigger names supporting/shouting out drill artists & even collabs, theres huge crossover potential into mainstream. Thing is, melodic rap was able to be cleaned up a little then feature a pop artist or 2 & sell millions of records, it was able to crossover from the streets to the mainstream just by already having catchy melodies but also a street appeal, basically college kids to street dudes could buy into the sound hence rap being mor popular now than ever. But we all kno what kinda rap sells and what kinda rap fans usually jus bump in the whip by themselves or with their boys, drill jus needs to somehow gain some pop appeal, a lotta ppl would think it loses its pop appeal if so tho
I agree Hip Hop is supposed to evolve, but mumbling isn’t evolving. That devolving Hip Hop
Spot on. Change doesn’t always = evolution. But hey I guess we’re just cranky old heads who “just don’t get it” lol smh 🤦🏻♂️
@@wm_9640 you are just an old head y’all listening to messages too damn much I can listen to cole and new age both saying shit I fw I don’t need to be motivated all the time
It always have evolved because it hasn’t been around for even 100 years. Next up is melodic rap. Similar to the Tpain era but revamped. I can name a dozen mumble rappers from the 80s and 90s
@@RaytellSmokes74 name em
@@dfredankey point still stands ha
"It's just the times bro. Let the times be."
That has to be the most creative excuse for being garbage and not being ashamed of being garbage I have ever heard.
Facts
Mumble rap is like fast food, it feels good but you don't really get nothing out of it
Like this video
Mumble rap is horrible 😂
I feel like this narrator is a kid and I'm sorely in need of a more mature in-depth analysis of mumble raps rise and fall
@@BoqPrecision shit didn’t fall @ all still going up
@@dfredankey nope its falling
Hell nah I was confused once that Keeps ad popped up..like wtf mumble rap got to do with male pattern baldness😅gotta pay closer attention
Bro I swear they know my hairline fucked up lmao
Mans could've made a joke about how all these rappers gonna be balding because of the damage to their hair and tied it into the video in a smart way, he was a little abrupt with the ad.
Jesus haha I’m sayin,caught me off guard
I think another big exception in this class besides curry is Anderson Paak. He also has a melodic style, but in a much more traditional kind of soul/funk direction that I think a lot more people can appreciate.
i know i have said this before, but imma say it again anyway.
"mumble rap" doesn't exist and it never did.
the whole "mumble rap" wave was just "trap music" with another title. '
"mumble rap" was just a way for old-heads to refer to modern hip-hop/rap.
the wave never existed as "mumble rap", and most of the artists mentioned/shown in this video (uzi, kodak, 21, future, lil baby, gunna, and thugga) are still popular. they don't even mumble in their music. maybe artists like young thug and carti mumble a bit, but you can still hear them well.
the artists i mentioned (who are commonly classified as "mumble rappers") didn't lose their popularity. the wave they are a part of didn't lose it's "cool". it never existed as "mumble rap" in the first place.
doesnt matter all the "rappers" you listed are trash
@@JordanWilliams-ix2td Young Thug is one of the goats lmao, stay mad old head
@@JordanWilliams-ix2td crazy how u fall so hard into this perfect box of "old head" constantly shitting on whats new and different is so cornball. old rap is dope asf, and so is new rap. and all those rappers are some of the biggest out rn and u cant just generalize a whole gen of music. its ignorant
Uhhh, you can exclude Anderson .Paak too. Not only is he “lyrically adept”, he’s in a category all his own.
YUNG KULA bruh, if you call him rnb, then you really don’t know what rnb is...smh
YUNG KULA but he’s rappin too tho. Whether you accept it or not, brotha is rappin. Like I said...he in a category all himself. Ppl (like yourself) just don’t wanna year what he sayin. Sucks for u.
@YUNG KULA he not, neither would he say so. And nowhere near Nelly...wtf?? lol u really DON'T understand...
pastense d riding
Lord Sur-Eeb get off ya own D. This is game recognize game, chump.
21, Uzi, Even Yatchy evolved. Mumble rap been dead.
Uzi grew on me a LOT even though I didn't really like him too much when I first heard him but he's definitely in my top 5 current artists.
@@MrDeathShotz me too i listen to at least 1 uzi song everyday
Kodak really doesn’t mumble it’s his accent people don’t understand but since I’m from Florida I can tell you exactly what he said Kodak is pretty lyrical just look at his lyrics
@@14kjonathan83 I got family from Florida and can back up what you say man. Ppl don't know shit🙏💯
@@The_Backman fax man, respect how kind you are 🎯
Wow that advert in the middle killed all my enthusiasm, anti-climax! Please put ads at the end or at the beginning pleeeaaaaasssseeee because I love this channel
I love how when mumble rap was huge it was, "Nah, these oldhead rappers need to adapt" and not even half a decade later these same mumble rappers have had to adapt.
If that isn't irony I don't know what is.
Lol theyre still more relevant than lyrical rappers
@@roddur1000 popular and relevant aren't the same thing
@@roddur1000 they arent
I'm surprised they even thought their run would be long, kids move on to the "next" shit real quick.
Gimmicks go stale after a while. Real music sticks. Look at Young thug. He was mumbling like crazy before. Now you can clearly hear him rap.
Still trash though
@@miguelg.3884 Exactly. Lol, my arguement was on gimmicks. Thug (trash as he is) grew out of that, and solicited help from J cole. Because, mumble rap has no future.
@@sphakamisozondi hes literally the father of current rappers
Miguel G. so you just watched a whole video about appreciating modern art forms and understanding cultural trends and yet you still call Young Thug trash 🤔. He’s a great artist imo, just not in the traditional rap sense
Thug (imo) uses his voice like an instrument. Doesn't matter what he is saying because he is sonically pleasing
Rap/Hip-hop is SUPPOSED to be ever changing, there's something for everybody.
You're videos are kind of addictive. Good job 👏
Good. I've been waiting for this momment to happen since it started.
Sometime between the age of 25-28 I realized hiphop is not marketed for people aged over 25 very rarely does a new artist can make someone 25 and older gravitate to a NEW artist
Rare indeed
This is pretty bad for rap. Considering Pop, rock and other genres can get new listens over 30. This isolates Rap in generations.
@@DarthVantos Blame old heads and new age fans.
I'm in my late 20s now, and I agree with this. I've actually stopped listening to trap music all together, with the exception of some older Gucci Mane songs that I grew up with from the late 00s and early 10s.
This was obvious I'm surprised it lasted this long a new wave will come but real rap never will b a fad. And rainbow rap will have a spot in the culture too Hip Hop is the best man
It was nice to finally read a positive comment. New stuff wasn't terrible imo, I enjoyed a ton of music and it has its place as every type does in Hip Hop.
well all the new rappers coming up are mostly melodic auto tune trap rappers. Not saying it's a bad thing i fuck with that type of music but "traditional" lyrical rap is kinda fading away.
F H M nah Griselda and Roc Marciano made it cool to actually rap again
Right by 2018 I was glad it stopped cause it was going on for way too long
@@FeltonHM lyrical rap is still relevant just look at the rise of Dreamville. Its just that lyrical rap needs to learn to evolve too, just like melodic and mumble rap did.
I’m glad ya mentioned Flatbush Zombies🙌 love them dudes.
2016 was like the 2nd wave of mumble rap cause we had Lil B, Young thug, gucci mane, and chief keef before them.
💯💯💯
Lil Wayne isn’t a mumble rapper lol
That just how chief keef rap that set him apart from all the other rappers you can tell they trying to mumble but it was just slow and natural for keef.
Lil Wayne has never
Me and my drank by lil wayne ... my dad use to say all he did was mumble back in 2008 he definitely created that shit ...auto ... the drug raps ...... me and my drank ... I feel like like dying ...
Another thing is hip hop needs new beats, most beats just sound the same now and these producers need to switch it up
Do something about it
Gunna kinda broke that cycle with WUNNA, but it has to fit your style like how the beats fitted Gunna's rap flow and melodies
@@user-ek2uf7yj5r pop smoke will be seen as insanely ahead of his time
Listen to different producers lol
Well, then actually go and look for music aside from mainstream trap. Production and experimentation with sounds is at all time levels right now. I recommend Knxwledge's "1988" and Slauson Malone's "A Quiet Farewell" as two prime examples of all time great production work from the last year and a half.
people miss the hype wavy 2016 - 2017 carti , uzi , uno , mexikodro , fauni , d savage.
oliver
back in 2013 i had NO IDEA that rap would sound like that in 2016/17
Hated it when it first came out, but now I listen to these artists whose music aged quickly and badly and think like "damn where did the time go?".. I mean it's still trash but it's also a guilty pleasure for me now, crazy to believe it was 5 years ago this was poppin, that's half a decade now
3:26 I ain't gon lie tht "Hey...u... there, I'm.. at the..store..." had me dying🤣🤣
More like "how the term mumble rap lost it's cool" if Lil Baby and Roddy would've blew up in 2016 they wouldve def been called "mumble rappers" by the annoying old heads. Them two killing the game right now
They still wack tho..
Social Media Killed The MC Even you don’t believe Roddy is wack. Just because someone isn’t rapping like Lupe Fiasco or Nas doesn’t mean they’re bad
They are far from mumble rap wtf are you talking about lmaoo..
Listen to Lil Baby.. then Carti, they are different
@@Christian-eq6pq Too me he's wack because they lack creativity & substance... He will be gone sooner than later & others will replace him. That will never happen with ones like NAS & Lupe Fiasco.
@@stann.3408 I won't listen to a grown man calling himself a baby because he's wack...I didn't say he does mumble rap...his just trash doing what he do.
God, you guys make 2016 sound like 1916
Man had me at “..hey you there!/
I’m going to the store!
I called it years ago. Mumble rap is like disco except that producers won’t sample most songs lol. In terms of XXL thing you can’t leave G Herbo and Dave East lyricism out of the equation. But in general, to get to the tier in which Nas, Rakim occupy, it takes a transcendent or a couple transcendent albums to be up there with those two.
I genuinely love your videos. Keep up the good work❤️🙌🏻
I’m 29 and came up on pac, biggie, snoop, DMX, and bone thugs. Jayz is my favorite artist. But I’m not with knocking the young artists or downplaying their hard work or talent. Shit anything that allows them to make it out the hood and feed their families is straight with me. Can’t believe people mad at that lol. Let’s stop acting like vanilla ice, Mc Hammer , and uncle Luke and them didn’t exist in the “golden era” of rap lol:
*True, but you never hear Vanilla Ice, Mc Hammer, or Uncle Luke being praised as "the greatest".*
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Or Mase, Diddy (Puff Daddy), Master P, Silkk The Shocker, Ja Rule, etc.
@Luke Nobody actively bumped Mase tho it's like he ends up on maybe a song or two yet MASE by himself? Hell nah. I remember people dogging Master P and Ja Rule. We Tolerated Ja because Ashanti was gonna murder her part of the track.
@@bigkev9539 you did by their city or state
@@bigkev9539 yeah but nobody was calling lil pump, 6ix9ine, ugly god the greatest either.
Clearly the quote on quote “mumble rapper” like carti, future, thugger, 21, uzi are still relevant as they are actually good
It was never cool to be begin with.
Mumble rap was never cool. Thank god it ended in 2018.
I don’t understand the point of this video. All the artists mentioned are all still extremely relevant. “Mumble Rap” was never even a genre it was just some label that old heads used to shit on new-gen rappers.
💯💯🤝🤝🤝 I agree w everything you just said
Facts
i think the word ‘mumble rap’ was meant to mean the low skill rappers. or rappers who don’t have much substance to their music and just mainly rely on beats as they have no skill or abilities. i wouldn’t consider uzi a mumble rapper cuz we can understand what he’s actually saying. 21 savage used to mumble a lot in his music but now he has improved and has a lot of substance in his music, future idk about him but i don’t fw his mysic
cyrus J what does that even mean? 90% of rappers “have substance”. Explain to me how a rapper in the 80s going “hip hop hoppity uh hippity” and a rapper in the 90s talking about killing ppl/fucking bitches is any better or more meaningful than what ppl make today. You barely listen to rap I can tell
camquest1 that was When hip hop first started lmao And Clubs era where hip hop first came out in the late 70’s and early 80’s But that’s not the modern Old head that’s from the late 80’s and the Whole 90’s where Lyrics where at its Peak and higher production
who believes it’s possible to still do ‘mumble rap’ and still be creative, tell a good story and and be clear with ill vocabulary? out the whole lot I’d say Curry and 21 are the two closest there.
I think they’re trash
Mumble rap is alive n well 😭
I swear I been watching this channel since yesterday, this and some dude named Patrick cc. And literally thanks to you two, I had absolutely no clue we had so many damn rappers out here currently. I was only aware of the most popular dudes. But that’s just cuz I didn’t like nor follow the mumble rap dudes. There were some stand outs. Like 21, HATED him at first til he had one song that came on the radio like 3 years after he gained popularity. Can’t remember what it was, but it was straight heat. Then I heard him feature on a song with Meek Mill, bruh SLAUGHTERED his verse. Then A Lot hit the air waves and maaaan I been sleep on 21 for real.
I swear to god this video is made every single year
Thank God, one of the worst things to happen to rap imo. I'm not an old head where I can't get into new forms of rap, some of the best hip hop ever made is happening now, but mumble rap was a huge regression for the genre
Worse than ringtone rap 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@dwaynejpeterkin Maybe 😂. At least ring tone rap had some fyre choruses. But there have been many regressive rap genres through the decades
just curious. Which new albums do you consider some of the best hip hop ever made. Any suggestions?
@@Crazelord91 laffy taffy bot lyrical beither is pop lock it drop it 🤔🤔🤔if anything that era worse than todays era just as bad as the auto tune era
Blab34 are you legitimately asking or being spiteful? because they do exist. just not gonna give a list out of pettiness
The essence of Hip Hop can't be destroyed. Some of us "old heads" remember the hell we went through get rap accepted as a skilled art form, so the narrative that it was ok not to have skills will never sit well. Mumble rap was just a way for A&R's to be lazy and feed off of young artists. Only genre to have this issue is rap. Today I notice songs that are clearly RnB (people are literally holding notes) being classified as rap. I had a flashback to early 90's when the Grammy's would put rap in an RnB category. Again, the only genre to have this issue is black music.
Mumble rap will always hold a special spot in my heart. I'm 25 and still am not tired of it. And I've been a fan since 2016. It defines my young adult hood because it's all you would and still hear on the radio. I like any music that sounds good as a whole
That shit trash 😂
Learn something new everytime i watch one of your videos bro !! You a goat at this no Kizzy 😤🐐💯 Keep Going
Kodak an 21 not mumble rappers y’all jus ain never took a real listen💯 only real the gon relate to dem
Zeno Kyriakides Nbs he was a demon before the drugs got to him🤦♂️
Dude your the reason I’m going to make it your awesome thank you
When It lost it's cool?? When was mumble rap ever cool?? It was the doorway to dumbing down real talent and lyricism in HIPHOP. Mumble rap gave an excuse to be lazy and not think, when it came to story telling and real creativity in rhyming. I never thought mumble rap was cool. Put most of them in a real rap battle and they'd ball up in a corner like babies.
exactly.i call it shitpop ore poptrap
perfectly said
Fo' sho'
Absolutely
This man said “mumble rap” in 2020
So... it is mumble... mumble ain't that old few years or something it came out lol
magicVAMPIRE løver13 the term is just something negative and it’s annoying
@@romanhurst7 and makes no sense
@@romanhurst7 facts
It’s just a term oldheads use to put trap in a negative connotation
Hip hop is about being different. So if everyone is saying do it this way or that way , it’s just going to make kids do the complete opposite
Who said hip-hop is about being different when most of current hip-hop artists sound same🤷
Because it's not about being different. It's about being original. Well it used to be any.
@@zacker5109 current? says who? maybe the guys who were heavily influenced by thug or sum. But what you said just comes across as a cliche trope
3:22 He makes a good point there. As someone who has ripped on mumble rap, I never really thought of it that way.. There are some trap songs I still like too, I admit it..
🙏🙏🙏 thank god about time 👍🏼
“Except Denzel” bruh don’t disrespect lil herb like that he is not a mumble rapper
1-800-Wavy you like 69 huh
Neither is uzi
skyshon mosley 😂 right like wtf.. Herb is still hard to this day!
the_only gamerlmao facts
“G Herbo you know me I guess ima freshman now but I been a OGGG”
Can't lose something you never had.
Nice video essay!
That cypher is absolutely iconic tho regardless of its lack of lyricism in part. That XXL class in whole was basically the best for what XXL Freshman List stands for which is the future of rap which is near everyone on that list has help up to
More relative is “How Trap Is Falling Off”
Music evolves every few years trap will not be around forever like gangsta rap
Gangster rap never died. It just got better. Trap and drill music are sub-genres of it
Aron Janvier exactly
Trap music will die because the main stream Trap rappers are not really trappers
kingcash it also has become a money farm. They don’t take time into making good music. They put so many songs on their album just to make more money and monetize everything. That is also shown in the recent deluxe trend. Now albums are 25+ songs.
Last year was the nail to the coffin to mumble rap's being cool. It's still going, but slowly fading away
RE: How Mumble Rap Loss Its Cool
When was it ever cool?
So, i started getting into hip hop/rap in the early to mid-90s when i started high school and became an instant fan of the music at that particular point in time. I don't know who was responding in the interview, but the kid making his response starting a 03:21 really has a good point. Because i remember feeling the same way about early hip hop in the 80s. I thought it sounded corny. There were a few hip hop songs of the 80s i liked, but not many.
Can’t talk about mumble rap without talking about Keef and Capo
Already know
Them two was beyond mumble rap...they was gargle rap
yeah he said future smh
emotionless ? Future was mumble rapping before the Keef tho and he popularized it
Keef wasn’t a mumble rapper... u can literally hear everything he says. Mumble rapping is when the words are slurred and hard to enunciate.
Imo there was never any genre called mumble rap and articles have been written abt that term being false. It’s just a derogatory term to encompass all modern rap that is disliked by those older generations that stopped being able to digest, process, & understand new sounds. Some music is just for the moment.
@General Butt Naked why would u be listening to garbage music tho? Wierd
Good closing point there, that styles come to exists by eachother, so there's no reason to fear styles being lost. Everything is recycled one way or another. "Everything is a remix".
Hey look at 21 he was a hard mumble rapper. Now he is a r&b singer who did a song with Alicia keys.
Andre S. Lmfaooo😂are you serious
Crazy how uzi had one of the biggest albums this year 😂😂 and did more numbers then lil baby and
I didn’t even know that. I gotta check that out
Gerardo Aponte uzi sold 288k first week,was the biggest rap album debut of 2020 juice sold 497k and beat him tho
ItsThunder no dude uzi sold 400k first week lol juice still beat him tho
@@lowkeyvibes5427 uzi sold 220k first week , wtf are u on?
says nothing.billboard number one polo g with song called rapstar....with not one rapline in it
This man knows Denzel, that’s a subscribe 🙏🏽💯
you can't lose something you never had
What?
I remember when I moved from Cali to Florida back in 97. I had never heard of Master P until I got to Florida. I have to be honest and say that Master P sounded like a more mumble rapper cuz his southern accent was so heavy I could barely understand what he was saying. However once I listened to him more with those beats I started to understand and enjoy his music.
This is why Starlito, CyHi the Prince, J Cole etc will always feel right, it's authentic
IDK if a J Cole type rapper can get big in the current rap game, that lyrical/conscious lane seems to have stopped producing new big artists.
I remember when that cypher came out and I genuinely thought what the hell is this “bs” ... I saw negative reaction videos across the internet thinking the same thing. That’s where my distaste for “mumble rap” probably begun. Then from there over the next course of the year I saw interviews from the likes of Lil Uzi & Yachty on different radio stations etc building up in my eyes an image an definition of the “new era”.
Yeah that cypher was just terrible honestly Denzel is the only one that saved it
cringe
I remember downloading Uzi vs the world tapes and it absolutely blowing my mind. Was like nothing i ever heard before in 2015
10:58 that's the perfect picture for the description.