Why Tensions are Flaring in the Balkans (it's not just the Euros)
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Ever since Yugoslavia's breakup, the Balkans have been in a bit of a state. And, while it looked like things were on the up a while ago, in the past few years, tensions have been rising in and among certain countries. In this video, we're taking a look at why things are getting worse, and what might happen next.
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00:00 - Introduction
01:03 - EU Accession
03:28 - Russian Influence
05:08 - Corruption
07:28 - Conclusion
07:56 - Sponsored Content
Roses are green
Violets are black
The Balkan region is stable.
😂😂😂
Thanks to Turkish colonization.
@@captainchaoscowthanks to the shit brains of people living there
Lacks the line:
"Like Macron's dirty back"
Technically roses are (partially) green
So things are pretty normal in the Balkans.
The trouble with the Balkans is that they are too Balkanized.
@@euansmith3699every major ethnic group should have its own country
@@SYED_SHAH07 and they do, somewhat(?). Croats and Croatia and a fifth of FBiH and share Brcko, Slovenes have Slovenia, Romanians have Romania, Bulgarians have Bulgaria, Turkishmen have Turkey, Greeks have Greece, Albanians have Albania & Kosovo, Serbs have Serbia and Republika Srpska (not realy a country 🤷♂️) and share Brcko, and Bosniaks… they only have four fifths of FBiH and share Brcko, which isn't even a country itself, FBiH is part of BiH
@@flmis I’m not just talking about the Balkans I’m talking about the entire world, the country I’m from Pakistan is so ethnically diverse (which is a huge downfall for us) but so are the other countries surrounding us, India, Pakistan, Iran, Afghanistan, China, Russia and Indonesia are all examples of this. Mixing hundreds of cultures together doesn’t work and I honestly hope all these countries get balkanised soon.
If it wasn’t for football I wouldn’t know about all of these Balkan countries who hate Serbia
“When the Balkans are involved, no problems are solved”
- Sun Tsuvić, The Art of War
😂 best one so far
@@myowngenesis Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. I choked on my juice reading this. Good one.
😂😂😂 oh fuck..true that.
Hahahahahahahah😂
Nah Sunislav Tsuvić
"Its gonna be some damned Thing in the Balkans"
-Otto von Bismarck
He was talking about Albania at the time.
@@user-pc2jp2yr3cAlbanian didn't existed then
That's actually a fake quote
@@Ma_ksi"If there is ever another war in Europe, it will come out of some damned silly thing in the Balkans." That's a quote at least.
The story is from The World Crisis (1923) by Winston Churchill, who was first lord of the Admiralty in 1914:
“The night before (Friday), at dinner, I had met Herr [Albert] Ballin. He had just arrived from Germany. We sat next to each other, and I asked him what he thought about the situation. Within the first few words he spoke it became clear that he had not come on any mission of pleasure. He said the situation was grave. “I remember,” he said, “old Bismarck telling me the year before he died that one day the great European War would come out of some damn foolish thing in the Balkans.” These words, he said, might come true.”
So it's a quote of Churchill of a quote of a quote
In other news the sky is blue and ice is made of water.
You are wrong about both
Damn! I thought water was made of ice!
The sky only looks blue sometimes to us humans and the ice isn't made out of water, it *is* water.
Maybe we broke up physically but we are united by corruption.
You guys should create one country again and call it Corruptionia.
@@klausjack8731 We will, after we squeeze out every Euro from the EU funds.
@@b-art6098 And by we you mean less than 1% of the people from each country
Yeah, Ottoman empire lives!!! :)
@@rohen5679more like 50%, don't virtue signal
The Balkans in crisis? Who could've seen that one coming?
They're like the married couple that just enjoys fighting. There's nothing to be done.
They were generally getting better overall despite issues. If Russia hadn’t enjoyed creating instability, this may well have continued.
Who could've seen that one coming?
Probably the foreigners at the root of creating the divisions: the people behind the Schism of 1054 and, after that, the Ottomans.
What crisis? Be specific! South East Europe is a diverse place. Croatia for example is a highly developed country (as measured by HDI and iHDI). It is also one of the safest countries in the world, as the Crime Index and Global Peace Index show. Don't believe everything you hear on the internet, eapecially when it comes to slander from this alternative media platform.
@@YourD3estinY Tbf Croatia is not included in this video.
Doesn't matter when you read the title.
Pretty condescending statement.
Maybe you think you are better?
@@captainchaoscow i mean they're not wrong lmao?? the balkan are always at it
The only thing that’s changed is that before the Euros didn’t exist.
@@schauschau2552At what exactly?
@@captainchaoscow yeah. didnt you know? Balkans need the conflict tonstay alive. Absolutely no reason for the countries there to exist separately. The politicians just use the nationalism to get elected
The Balkans being the Balkans lol.
I can totally agree, if by being the Balkans you mean safe and highly developed place like Croatia, with one of the highest GDP and wage growths in the EU.
@@YourD3estinY These fearmongering videos always suck anyway. All they do is spread more hate and fear for literally no reason. Republika Srpska will never cecede, Serbia is not a Russian ally like Belarus. It's not only Croatia being slandered, pretty much everyone is.
@@kiki88561 whitehashing much eh? how do you like them license plates?
@@jpsion No idea what you are trying to say. Point is no major escalation appears pretty much every time stupid videos like this are posted, ESPECIALLY when talking about dumbass Dodik who has wanted to "cecede" the past 15 years or so.
@@kiki88561 croatia was not being slandered in any way,.
they only mentioned how corruption is a big issue which it is.
this guy is talking about development and life in croatia even though he does not know anything about it.
That's the thing about the Balkans, they are always tense and fighting each other one way or another.
The only stable time the Balkans have had in modern times were under Tito. After he bit the dust, the Balkans went back to normal again
Yes this started when antient greek supposed agrarian society was in semipermanent wars with their own cities.
@@milibait was 'stable' only between ethnic groups. But tito himself was a ruthless dictator
I don't know about the others, but Croatia is one of the most peaceful countries Europe. It ranks 14th in the Global Peace Index from 2023, thus it is slightly above Germany.
@@YourD3estinY all our balkan people are peaceful, it is our greedy corrupt politicians and external powers using us as pawns that causes all this trouble
The geopolitics of the Balkans is not for beginners
100%
In Croatia, not ONLY accused, but sentenced for corruption by the judge saying hdz is a corruptive criminal organisation. fyi there is apsolute media freedom in croatia.
Such videos always tend to show "all of the Balkans" as one state or one type of society with the same social and political issues, when in fact the stereotipical "Balkan problems" can only be found in Bosnia and Kosovo.
@@maspalfikerExactly. This is a basically a racist attitude. If you treat them all the same irrespective of what they achieve and how highly developed they are and equate them to the warmongers Vucic and Dodik. 🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@maspalfikerWrong.
Bosnia and serbia are the most corrupted balkan countries
@@maspalfiker wherever Serbs live or are at least 30% of population, there will be problems and instability.
every time you design a magazine you need to relearn it. 😂
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Hey, hey I've seen this one. I've seen this one. This is a classic!
This video is grouping the issues of this region and therefore asosiating all these issues with all of the countries there. It is not fair to associate threatning a war with Kosovo and 10 year old corruption case of Ivo Sanader who was fully trialed and convicted. Same is for equating Russian influence in the region like this. There is a huge differenec in the influence of Russian capital in Serbia, Republika Srpska and Crna Gora compared to Kosovo, Croatia and Slovenia. Russian capital has a strong influence in the UK and in Belgium as well but you would never group them with Belarus as an extreme example or Hungary and Turkey as less extreme examples.
Stop grouping these countries together like this all the time, especially when there is a clearly negative context.
Excellent comment. But the author of this video knew exactly what he/she was doing. It is like always just a clickbait for us exYugoslavians.
The Croatian DP is also just proclaimed to be "anti Serb, anti minority". Meanwhile, DP has Serb members in high party and government positions. And the "Serbian minority rights" is code for "1% of the electorate can decide which of the other two 49% sides get to form the government".
Agreed. I wish us northern Europeans would stop thinking and talking about former Yugoslavia as "former Yugoslavia" and replace our vague, antiquated, region-wide prejudices with granular, updated, country-specific prejudices.
@@lor3608 Croatia ethinc clenased 90% off Serbs ,take their properties so all now this is just smoke screen
As someone from serbia, great comment. Corruption in Montenegro or Croatia are incomparable to autocracy in serbia. By grouping the region like this he is kinda relativising the entire balkans. For example Croatias gdp per capita is twice as big as that of serbia, and democracy is stable compared to entire region. But from this video you kinda get the atmosphere we're all similar. Whilst difference in terms of economy of some balkan states are as big as difference between like poland and Germany. And as always too easy on vucic, representing serbia as if we just have a democracy problem, not as if we are a dictatorship
Showing Andrej Plenković as the "nationalist right" is peak irony
Well for some, any Croat is a "fascist"
Yes, all parties in Croatia are nationalist right.
@@UrosMaksic quite the opposite, very anti-nationalist agendas and Yugo-flag-accepting bull crap and pride fests
@@UrosMaksic One just needs to explain how come the leading "nationalistic" party was in coalition with the Serb Party for 8 years, until 2 months ago...
@@atisalvaro Those are token Serbs, they represent noone.
"Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?"
Please check your facts:
1) There were no snap elections in Croatia, elections were held as scheduled after the end of the 4-year cycle.
2) Main Serb minority party (SDSS) does not represent "123 thousand people", as they won just 32 thousand votes because the majority of Serbs in Croatia do not vote for SDSS, being notorious as an extremely corrupt party, not doing anything to improve life of Serbs in Croatia. Therefore Serbs usually vote for left-wing parties in Croatia, like SDP.
3) HDZ's post-election coalition partner is not "anti-Serb", but "anti-SDSS", which they accuse of corruption and using their minority position to harvest state money.
SDP is fake left wing
Has it ever been calm in the Balkans? 😅
Yes, when the foreign Empires stayed away.
@@user-pc2jp2yr3cbefore the ottomans?
@@user-pc2jp2yr3cIf you have to return to pre-slavic times, than you can also say "No", it means pretty much the same thing.
yes, when the Roman empire ruled and kept domestic troubles away.
The EU hasn't helped in this case to say the least. Furthermore, they helped push things the other way around... which just goes on to show that private interest exceed the will of the people even in EU.
I am a big suporter of EU rule of law, but it is now clearer than ever that due to a powerful elite in the west the Balkans will never be stabilized... Russian influence isn't only clear in the Balkans, it was and is still present in the EU as well, a bit hypocritical given it's official standpoint don't you think?
Hello, the video is well structured and gives a good overview of the situation, but some facts related to Croatia are not well contextualized and well explained. The elections were not held because of the appointment of a new state attorney, but because the prime minister wanted to combine two electoral victories in the parliamentary and European elections in a relatively short period of time. There were protests, but they were not big. And as for the formation of the coalition, the main reason why the DP advocates the expulsion of the members of the Serbian minority and the parliamentary majority is the complicated electoral system where the minorities have guaranteed seats in the parliament and can decide with their vote and be the tip of the scales. The DP party considers this an injustice.
Exactly, In Croatia Serbian minority gets 3 guaranteed seats in the parliament even tho they are only 3.2% of population, and in this election only 65% population voted so basically serbs gained 3 seats with 2% while, minimum to gain a seat in electoral area is 5%...
@@Sponcek Serb Minority always form government even though they are 3% of population. Why is it a scandal that for once they aren't in governing coalition ? because they are used to using that power to steal. Did Serbs ever include Albanians in their government before Kosovo independence even though they were like 20%+ of population back then. The answer is no. They are hypocrites.
Giving minorities over representation can be a good way to make them feel safe and satisfied in the country where they’re a minority. This was long true of Wales and Scotland for instance.
It perfectly explains the corruption in Croatia and HDZ. That is the main thing why so many people moved away, only Irish beat this numbers and not even the Jews.
@@Sponcekit’s common practice in most countries that national minority parties either have guaranteed seats or where they don’t have guaranteed seats but electoral threshold don’t apply to them. That’s why for example even though Hungarians are even less of a minority in Serbia than Serbs in Croatia with 2.8% of population they gained 6 seats in Serbian parliament last elections.
6:33 there was no "snap election" in Croatia
He overexaggerated and misresepresented everything.
"malign Russian influence".....
God forbid that someone else's influence is positive.
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Isn't Vode lejen accused of corruption while COVID?
Or UK (CITY) and offshores haven for dirty money?
I think there is a documentary on this. One of the main reasons they left EU.
Anyone else notice the President of Serbia looks just like the face melt guy from Raiders of the Lost Arc?
You saying he's a nazi?
We nicknamed him "Pu55y lips"
he's not don't misconstrue the comment.
Vucic just looks like the guy@@Dzztzt
As a Slovenian, I can say that this is surprisingly accurate, and as most comments have suggested, unsurprising for the Balkans 🤦
Ah yes, here we go again with "Slovenia is not a Balkan country" 🤣
@@limazulu6660 I didn't say that, I consider us a part of the Balkans too :) the corruption here is less blatant and more in the Western style, but it definitely exists.
@@limazulu6660We aren’t😉
@@limazulu6660 Albanian here I don't even consider myself part of the Balkans in reality I don't even understand what these Balkans are...Balkan is a Turkish term that was originally used for some mountains in Bulgaria for us the real name will always remain the Illyrian peninsula, not the Balkans
No one is Balkan!
A lot of these tensions could've been solved only if NATO was supporting national borders between the countries. Now there's a situation where you've got dysfunctional states like Bosnia or partly recognized states like Kosovo. If dissolution was performed based on nationality, all countries could become true national states, which is why Yugoslavia broke up in the first place. There's no guarantee that this would solve corruption, probably on the opposite but at least there wouldn't be as much nationalist tensions as there is now. In the end, I can only draw a conclusion that this is what West actually wanted, although I can't seem to understand why, having in mind stable Balkans means stable Europe as well...
The country is called Bosnia and Herzegovina. Get it right.
Yeah more NATO intervention in the region should do the trick right?
NATO helped Albanians in Kosovo get their self determination already and while I do think it was the right thing to do it definitely did not decrease tensions in the region on the opposite Kosovo is the one post Yugoslav state that seems to cause the most anger in Serbia despite being less than 10% ethnically Serbian.
The best thing to do is just keep the status quo and let time heal the wounds of the break up of Jugoslavia.
Also combatting Russian influence in the region would be a good thing but I have no idea how to go about it.
Nato or not for Bosnia and Herzegovina its more a matter of "frozen conflict" via Dayton that has come into question as the current political landscape is different: Croats are not longer big allyes of Bosnian muslims since Bosniaks would rig the election in their favour so now they want republika herzeg-bosna a srpska 2.0. While Dodik is activly fighting against provocative actions from Sarajevo. As for Kosovo, it is definently lost for Serbia but no one wants to admit this reality because that would be a suicide. Besides no one wants to repeat 1999. Its all political barganin of Belgrade and a social experiment for how long can Serbia recive support from all corners of the world in this time of polarisation.
@@ad_astra468 Rewriting borders on a whim is a good thing? Westerners trying not to sound like clowns and failing for the Nth time...
The incompetence of the West, from the handling of Bosnia all the way to Kosovo, really didn't help. At least we didn't end up like the middle east.
Not now Western Balkans, we’re busy.
As a serb, don't worry nothing big is coming up. Political leaders create tension themselves and then "solving", them so they could be viewed as a "factor of stability" by the west and buy cheap political points at home. Vucic and Dodiks have been doing that for more than a decade and some western media stil buys it and serbian voters as well
Its sad that you didnt mention how Bulgaria blocks North Macedonia and for what bizarre reasons. Which made the country to think that the agreement with Greece was for nothing (the name change).
Also for the balkan countries seeing how fast Ukraine and Moldova started negotiations, keeping in mind that they were negotiating for years before that. I believe they find it really demotivating
Bulgaria can have its own imterests and they are right.
@@erikk.137I didnt say they cant have interests. But it is bizarre to tell someone in the 21 century who they are and expect from them to change their identity and language. Would you do that?
@@azureblue5440 even if you came to these places several centuries after Alexander the Great and you are Slavs and not Greeks and you have Bulgarian names not Greek. you simply have an identity problem where you want to be someone, even if the identity is stolen
@@erikk.137as an albanian i agree, 'Macedonian' is a region and not an ethnicity. It is a land of Albanian and Bulgarians. It is like saying Kosovan is an ethnicity 😂
So by your logic both the nations you listed exist since the start of the universe? Nations come and go, new arrive. You cat tell anyone who they are. And why do you attack me, im not even from there, im just saying how bullied is the country.
The region was unstable during the Roman Republic.
when has it ever been calm in the Balkans in modern history
Croatia is a very calm and peaceful country. It ranks high both in the safety index as well as the Global Peace Index 2023, where it ranks above Germany and below Finland.
@@YourD3estinYyou mean the sons of the ustasha 🤣
The balkans being the balkans like always
Political chaos and social unrest have plagued the Balkans following the dissolution of Yugoslavia which has severely hindered their economic growth.
Which was instigated by the US, with German backing. Weight of chains.
No shit!
"The Balkans is in a bit of a state".
That is incorrect. The Balkans is not in a state. In fact we created a word specifically because it is not in a state. The Balkans is in multiple states, it is balkanized.
The Balkans has entirely too much history -
history that happened in the past,
history happening in the present
and history that will unfold in the future.
Let's be fair: when the great powers of any period interfered in the Balkans, the people suffered.
As if Balkans aren't capable to suffer by themselves.
Balkan moment
Forget to talk about mean UK impact at Balkan
@@m.j.5333 ????
Meanwhile the UK is being robbed entirely by a few wealthy people.
Your constant shilling and sneaking in advertising is more annoying than mainstream media....
While in the rest of Europe wars were constantly erupting and dying down, where empires were constantly rising and falling, the Balkans have been a beacon of stability for over 2 millennia.
Nothing unusual to see a flaring tension Balkan now or anytime soon, the reason is quite obvious.👨🎓
Man, you really don’t know a lot about Balkans, I can believe you even want to deal with it in your magazine. First you have to say that Kosovo is by mandatory UNSC resolution part of Serbia. The fact that your country recognize it, does not abolish you-you are researcher and your country actually broke intel law by recognizing UDI.
Second, Vucic did more for Kosovo than any other Serbian leader before. To believe that Vucic saying Serbia will leave CoE is the reason why Kosovo is not there is laughable. Who cares if Serbia is out? Its because Kurti is conducting ethnic cleaning of Serbs in Kosovo and also legalities. 12 Members of Coe do not recognize that illegal creation.
Kosovo is not a Member of CoE because of what Vucic said, thats laughable. Its because Kurti is conducting ethnic cleaning of Serbs and having a lot of unilateral measures in that regard and also because 12 members CoE do not recognize Kosovo, which you are just skipping saying every time
region would be stable if our politicans could find a agreement and a compromise whithout Russian or western influence but we are to dependent on them economically and politically
Pretty cheeky putting all of Cyprus in the EU, didn’t realise that Northern Cyprus had also joined!
Officially there is no "northern cyprus" as it isn't recognized by any country except Turkey.
Officially it's still one country and people who live in "northern cyprus" have Cypriot=EU passports.
Haven't you realized it? How about read about it and verify what I wrote?
@@hamlet557 they have north Cypriot and Turkish passports too.
They have their own govt, elections as well as control of their territory.
Republic of Cyprus has no jurisdiction in Northern Cyprus.
@@shafsteryellow For EU they are considered European citizens as citizens of Cyprus.
If they have other passports too fron Kiribati, Tuvalu or Samoa doesn't concern the EU.
These are the facts of the case.
@@hamlet557 That's the EUs choice fact is they're immediately eligible for those citizenship.
Fact of the matter is Republic of Cyprus has no presence in Northern Cyprus
@@shafsteryellow Yes, northern part of Cyprus is known playground for turks who want to enjoy casinos and brothels but not in their islamic country.
Again: not a concern for EU.
does that mean the EU will not change the border based on ethnic lines in Bosnia where 90% of the people from Republika Srpska are Serbs and want to secede, but Nato bombed Serbia so that the Albanians in Kosovo would get a state? I am so confused....
Well I think that context always matters. Serbs in Bosnia were committing a full out genocide to bosniaks to gain independence. Plus not to mention the many problems a separation would bring. On the other hand, Serbia was committing a whole other genocide to Kosovo Albanians just for the hell of it. The whole world united and decided to stop Milosevic at that point. I kindly suggest you to look at the entire list of events and not just the endgame.
Yeah, because Serbs where the ones commiting ethnic cleansing in Bosnia. You can even see how the ethnic lines shifted after Serbia invaded.
Personally, I don't think Serbia should be rewarded for their genocide against Bosnia & Herzegovina, but maybe that's just me.
@reaperz5677 You have no idea what you are talking about. You are either biased or brainwashed by CNN. Yugoslavia was one Country, Serbs lived in all former Yugoslav states for centuries. It was Nato that tried to expelled them from their homes by supporting every communist region of Yugoslavia and forming new States / Nations based on communist division lines. In Croatia they even succeed since they managed to expel more than 400000 Serbs ( type Oluja on yt and see video for your self ) Goal was clear, give Serbia as little as possible. But were they went beyond even communist lines is Kosovo. That was simply a demonstration of force and brutal nato agrasion against Serbia. They took a fact that at the time around 45% of Muslims live in Kosovo, land where Serbia was form and where orthodox Christianity survived even the ottomans and ethnicly clans almost all Serbs ( now there is only around 10% of Serbs left there, rest are Albaninas) They did that without permission of UN and bombed Chinise ambasy in Belgrade at the time. Why? Just because they could. And now they are wondering why the rest of the world don't like them xD I think it's time for people in west to take control again from corrupt and evil politicians and stop this madness.
Classic serb. Serbs started this shit. Albanians just copied the formula😂 anyway before war in bosnia started serbs didnt make 90% of RS but ofc they made ethnicleansing there and they almost did it in croatia
The country is called Bosnia and Herzegovina. Get it right.
Please stop reporting on Dodik's independence talk. He has been doing it for 15 years and nothing ever happened. Don't give him attention
For as long there's Serbian people in Republika Srpska we will not want to be part of Bosnia, Dodik didn't magically decide he wants to secede, it's what people of RS want.
@@Sava.SAnd become an independent republic or join autocratic Serbia? Serbia cannot win any more land, if Dodik pushes for joining Serbia then Kosovo's fate is on the line(along with the rest of the Balcans), it cannot be allowed.
Well said, same thig for vucic. Half of these tensions are orchestrated by the leaders themselves, particularly when it comes to kosovo and serbia. And western media still takes these guys seriously
@@quiquemarquez3211 People in Republika Srpska are not blind ,they see double standards ,Albanians are given by west second Albnian country while they are not allow to have simple democratic thing call REFERENDUM
@@quiquemarquez3211 kosovo’s fate? Kosovo is an integral part of Serbia end of story.
HDZ pronounced "Aitch Dee Zee"? Surely, as you're British HDZ should be pronounces "Aitch Dee Zed".
Name me a place what is stable
if it’s not the population fed up with politics it’s pushing for conflict.
Good rundown. Thanks.
Only if you like slanderous disinformation.
Honestly this video could and should have been so much better. It's sad how basic your knowledge of the region and it's affairs is. For example not mentioning the situation in North Macedonia at all, not mentioning that the high representative in Bosnia and Herzegovina is as much to blame as dodik is for the rise in separatist rhetoric or not mentioning how my home country Montenegro is battling with organised crime and the Mafia, considering it used to be and still to some extent is state run by the Mafia and different drug cartels
I mean, western Europe never went through what the Balkans went and while I may be from Bulgaria and not the western part of our peninsula there's a reason why we joke about the westerners when translating the word in our language to "западняци" [zapadnyàzci], which can also be translated to the ones who are falling coming from our word for falling "падам" [pàdam]. They just haven't lived in those times. You lads as a part of Yugoslavia and later to deal with Mafia leaders and us here dealing with a budget version of Russia's oligarchy when we used to be in their sphere of influence, which we still to a degree are
I agree that he should have mentioned North Macedonia because the new government that has just been sworn in yesterday is already threatening EU accession by promising to change the name of the country and fighting constitution changes. But I think that Montenegro is relatively stable and Bosnia is always a hot mess, you can't include everything, but it is clear that Dodik is the main problem considering his strong ties to Russia and the pan-serbian meeting he just held with Vucic.
The NORTH adjective is fascist and illegally imposed by paid corrupt and blackmailed politicians. The only way for Macedonia to continue it's path towards EU is to revert this illegal activity after the perpetrators stand trial. Otherwise, Macedonia will not have the standard of law and justice required to be an EU country.
@@meeeee8745 Dodik is not a problem ,he is just voice off what 99% off people thing there
@@dzonikg that doesn't mean that he is not the problem. It just means that he is a bigger problem because he has support.
Corruption in the Tory party also makes it difficult for the UK to join the EU
The UK must rejoin the EU, to pay for Ukraine debt and Balkan countries to join. The wealthy Brits will be able to visit their holiday houses in the south of France with less hassle once again, the everyday Brit will just see their wages drop again, like what happened when Romania and Bulgaria were allowed to work here.
I don't think the UK can join again. I think it's a "once you leave, you're out" kind of deal. Why have a withdrawal mechanism if you just can join again once you've left?
@@chrimbus71 Their wages may drop, but the cost of living will drop as well!
@@johannessamuelsson6578 You can apply to join, but the conditions will be different and the EU will make sure that all political parties want to join.
In any unclear situation, blame the Serbs, the main slogan of the West. We blame everything on them
Based
Often told story in the Balkans:
One day a farmer was tilling his field when a Samodiva (Water Fairy) approaches him from a nearby river. She greets the farmer and tells him 'I will grant you anything you want, but know that I will give double to your neighbours.
Upon hearing this, the farmer asked to be blinded in one eye.
Oh my.
Sounds a bit like the story I heard decades ago from both a Ukrainian and from a Pole.
One of their countrymen is given three wishes and for each wish they ask that the Chinese Army invade their own country.
The genie who has granted the wishes says that the requests will be honoured but asks the man why he would want his own country invaded by the Chinese army three times.
The man says, "For the Chinese army to invade Ukraine/Poland three times it will need to march across Russia six times.
@@geofflepper3207 It's the Tatars not the Chinese but when I first heard the joke I cackled for a couple of minutes without pause.
You’ve got it all wrong geezer! Seeing yourselves as the good guys is always the default you will naturally never realize ……
The rest of Balkans will eventually join the EU no matter what since Slovenia and Croatia joined earlier.
Serbia could have joined already but they have no intention to join the E.U or NATO due to their hate towards the West.
Not Serbia and probably not Kosovo either, Serbia likes Russia too much
@@user-pc2jp2yr3c Serbia wants to join the EU, but not with the conditions that the EU is laying around, such as normalizing ties with Kosovo. Vucic ironically wants to solve this problem, but he knows that his own people will lynch him if he normalizes ties with Kosovo.
It’s not guaranteed
It'll be montenegro first but no others for at least 5 years.
Germany caused the breakup of Yugoslavia by having diplomatic relations with Croatia and Slovenia.
When will the magazine be available again? It’s sold out and unavailable
A new version yes. But not this specific one. They want to release 3 per year
Soccer war part 2: Balkan Boogaloo
I'm from the Balkans. And I guarantee you: without external political influences and stakeholders, this region would be a peaceful one. This whole shit started with the split between the Eastern Roman and Western Roman empires. We are in between and have to pay for it, in the end we are the primitive.
No one believes you... Unless by peace you mean ethnic cleansing.
learn to get along, why is that so difficult dammit
😂😂😂😂
This shit started since antient Greece supposed agrarian society in semipermanent state of wars between their city- polis. Then, let me remind you who actually caused the crisis of the Roman Empire?? You know that now today Serbs proudly say that 20 emperors were from what today is Serbia 😂😂😂😂😂
That pretty much destroyed the Empire
Sure Diocletian fixed the leakage for a while.. and ofc raise taxes lol how typical again 😂😂😂
@@p0t4toePotato Because It's not about wanting to be the aggressor, It's about who's the victim. That's the whole reason for these conflicts. Everyone thinks they're the victim and that the other side is evil, and it just snowballs. The arbitrary handling of the situation in the Balkans also didn't help and that is the reason nobody's happy currently.
The Balkans without tensions is like Italy without it's iconic dishes🍝, its unsettling
I'm actually sad to see the Balkans in such a sad state of affairs. It'd seem great if they'd all joined the EU, but I doubt that would improve things locally and between each Balkan country.
Instability in the Balkans? Surely thst didn't happen happen before
The title of this video could just be "Why Franco-Anglo Neoliberalism is failing everywhere"
It's never not devastated the countries that implemented it -- it's just that for the last 30 years there was no alternative.
If you think the balkan countries are similar to france and england, then you know nothing about france or england. Or the balkans for that matter.
@@wisehippo3072 Neoliberalism is an economic ideology especially favored by the US, UK, & France. It has been enforced sometimes by military or covert means & sometimes by more open means such as EU, IMF, & World Bank pressure or US sanctions.
The function of neoliberalism is to increase wealth inequality in a society, consolidate capitalist control over democracy, & integrate colonized & semi-colonized polities into subservient roles in the western imperial world order.
In the specific case of ex-Yugoslav & ex-Soviet republics, neoliberal economists designed an approach they called "Shock Therapy Capitalism" which utterly devastated the economies of the target nations & any prospective power they may have had on the international stage for decades.
What a mess over there..
I still find it impressive that Yugoslavia lasted as long as it did
You keep refusing to explain the political crisis in Bulgaria that has been going on for more than 2 years already, and that is a EU member in contrast to those countries.
At this point, Albania is included without reason in this video. We dont have any open tension. For now...
I mean corruption is on top, the opposition is practically dead rn, tensions with Greece over Bejleri and EU accession is entirely blocked for now. Albania is not much better than the others.
Unless it's with seriba
@@meeeee8745 there is no tension, in fact Greece is trying to take advantage by advancing its national interests in the name of union as it has always done with everyone but this time the European Union has prevented Greece from meddling in the internal affairs of Albania
@@meeeee8745 However, if you knew a little about the history of the European Union you wouldn't have made a comment like that given that many countries that are now part of the European Union were worse than today's Albania before joining the Union including Greece which was a dictatorship in that period
@@lagjescuni5482 you are aware that the standarts have changes drastically since Greece joined the EU right? Greece blocked North Macedonia in two long occasions just for a stupid name, despite pressure, never think it will not do the same to Albania. I am Albanian myself and I know the situation way better than you.
Albania's application is also heavily connected to North Macedonia and you might not be aware but North Macedonia just elected its most right wing party ever. Not to mention that the entire EU is filled with right wing politicians right now.
And you purposly did not address the corruption, mass immigration and the role Edi Rama and Soros played in destroying the opposition by buying people in the Biden administration against them.
Some truth yes, but not so precise
I would like to get an issue! But considering I never got the notepads last year, I¨m afraid U won¨t get the magazine either. Could you confirm you can send to Eurooe?
For the first time acurate news for Balkans. It took you a dozen videos to manage it.
Because it's the Balkan
wtf? There is no political turmoil in Croatia.
No corruption as always immigrations as always soon they will reach Irish numbers.
Idk man, I'd call HDZ and DP getting into power pretty turmoil-ish.
Sure if you're an uhljeb who has a HDZ political card then it's perfectly fine for you.
For anybody else , it's dog shit to live there and the political party that has ruled the country for majority of its exitance is a big cause for it. I moved out to another country recently cause there is no future there at all thanks to HDZ wining constantly and having their corrupt hands around everyones throats and now they made a coalition with an extremist political group who thinks hanging up crosses everywhere and singing about deporting Serbians is the main goal in life.
@@ZlatkoTheGodHow so? You have pretty much the same government as the one before that.
@@ZlatkoTheGodhow so? There were the elections. So people had an opportunity to vote in completely free and regular elections, unlike in the countries of the mentioned West Balkans. The fact is that Croatias former 2nd largest party SDP lost a lot of valuble members and at this point they would not be able to establish a stable government.
I enjoy your videos. Now, the folks at "Too Long Didn't Read" want to sell me a magazine. Think about that. Hmm.
Bro discovered hot water 🇭🇷
Experiment: start your videos on the Balkans by talking about centuries of Ottoman rule and see what the mouth feel is, i.e., does it sound like you're letting successions of corrupt and nationalist leaders off the hook? And consider this the next time you release a video about Southern Africa
2:09 Neoliberal reforms always lead to increased inequality, which can shift the balance of power in society. Inequality creates power dynamics that can gradually erode institutions, as economic influence translates into media, political, and social sway.
Seems like there's no good way to rule a nation/state.
So your preferred method of wealth distribution is to stop generating wealth so there is nothing to distribute. BRILLIANT!
it's crazy that Russia wanted us to do so much neoliberal capitalism
Russia must be guilty wow
Glad to see there's some consistent things in this crazy world of ours!
As an eastern european there way too many points that were either missed or not represented accurately in this video. It is clear that TLDR has no idea the hell they are actually talling about
Nah, Croatia and Slovenia are stable and are developing nicely. Sure, there are some problems here and there, but it's similar to what is happening in the rest of central and western Europe. You know things are for the most part good when there's discussions about non-issues like wokeness on TV. The same cannot be said about their neighbors unfortunately. The non-EU portion of the Balkans is a shitshow.
Croatia is stable but is not developing at all idk what gives you that idea.
What developments have been made in the country in the past 10 years?
-half a million people left the country
-freedom index fell by 7 points
-opposition no longer has the power to win the elections
-we lost our currency
-judicary is no longer independent
-media and journalists are being oppressed for investigating corruption
which of these is a positivie change?
also the reason our GDP per capita is rising is because we get money from tourism in summer and 20k people leave the country for germany or austria.
@@CroatianUltraNationalist - GDP per capita has been growing in the last 10 years.
- Credit rating has been improved by 2 points and is now BBB+, which had direct impact on better investment all across Croatia
- Infrastructure has been developing with better roads and railway
- The freedom index should never be examined year per year, because it is possible to have huge oscillations if you are unlucky and have a series of crisis within the same year. That is why you should look at the general trend over 10-20 years. When you do that, the general trend has been upwards. Just for comparison Coratia's freedom score, personal freedom score and economic freedom score is:
7.96 / 8.47 / 7.25.
Slovenia:
7.9, / 8.38/ 7.23.
Poland:
7.69 / 8.09 / 7.12.
All of these countries are considered to be developing rapidly and their freedom index is much higher than in Balkan non-EU countries.
- Opposition didn't win election because people are noticing that things are improving despite wars in the neighborhood, despite pandemics and despite earthquakes - all of which shook Croatia in the last couple of years. That and opposition being populist and far more extreme than the moderate HDZ.
- What you call "losing currency" is actually adopting the euro and entering Schengen zone, which is success by any objective measure. Sure, there are lots of uneducated people who think this is bad, but the problem is their lack of basic education - not Croatia developing.
- national debt in relation to gross domestic product (GDP) from 2012 has been going down and is predicted to keep going down.
- As for freedom of press, last year was bad. But if you look at a period of 10-15 years. Croatia is usually in the blue satisfactory rating (above 70). Last year was bad. It is the first time the rating dropped under 70 after many years. It remains to be seen if this is a trend or just an oscillation. My bet is that it is just an oscillation.
- When it comes to your baseless assertion how the judiciary is no longer independent, again... data debunks your claim. Croatia has been moving up and down between 35th and 45th on the rule of law index in the last 10 years, which on average puts it in front of Greece, Bulgaria and Hungary. Could this be better? Yes, but it is far from countries, which actually don't have independent judiciary - like Serbia (which is 93rd), Bosnia (75th), Brazil (83), Mexico (116th), Russia (113th), Turkey (117th) - just for comparison.
- As for people leaving, sure... that is a genuine problem. But if Croatia continues to develop as it has been doing since entering EU, people will start returning like it happened in Poland, Estonia and some other countries, which had a lot of emigration. The important thing is to continue developing not only 10 years, but 20-30 years. That is when people will start feeling huge improvements. Nothing happens over night.
Cheers ;)
@@redknight4805 -GDP per capita has been growing due to half a million people leaving the country
-Infrastructure has seen some developments but not much
-croatias freedom score according to freedom house has dropped by 4 points since 2016 when HDZ came to power
-according to The Economist Democracy Index the democracy in croatia has also been falling but not as much as the freedom index
-as for the opposition (which i personally also hate) not winning the elections there is multiple reasons, for starters gerrymandering, bringing croats from herzegovina to vote from them and using bots on social media to attack the opposition (you can look all of this up).
also saying "people saw what developments happened under HDZ" is completely ridiculous because the average HDZ voter does not even know what HDZs ideology is, they just vote for it because yes. the other group of people who vote for HDZ are people who still think it is a nationalist party, people who have personal benefit from voting for it (getting a job, family member is in the party). it is important to mention HDZ has 200k members which is more than the Tories in the UK which means those 200k people can vote in the elections and adding their family members, friends and people who have personal benefit from it you get a giant % of the population who vote for them. also calling the opposition populist just means you dont know what your talking about because they have no populist elements in their program.
HDZ is a party founded by a dictator, its second leader is currently in jail and its current leader took over the judicary, attackes media freedom, made it illegal for journalists to investigate corruption and had over 30 of his ministers removed due to corruption and even attacked EPPO for "lying".
- when it comes to our currency we had no say if we wanted to have the euro or not, the government simply did it without asking the people what they think about it, the Kuna was our currency representing our culture and our history which is why we loved it so much while the euro represents what the EU wants not what croatian people want. key things which make a country a country are: flag,currency,territory and we lost 2 of those elements already.
- i wont get into national debt it got worse under Andrej Plenković, when Tihomir orešković was prime minister he reduced the debt during his short term as prime minister yet when Plenković came the debt got worse and worse and atp no one even cares about the debt because HDZ is only making it worse.
-freedom of press has been a trend since 2021 till now.
attacks on media freedom have been frequent, Lex AP law makes it illegal for journalists to investiage corruption(happened this year), appointment of HDZ ally(who has been linked to corrupt people from HDZ) Ivan Turudić as attorney general is further proof that HDZ is slowly taking control of the country and them being in power for over 8 years now does not help at all, the longer their in power the weaker the rule of law becomes and they will be in power until 2028 and probably even after that. it is not healthy for a society to remain under 1 parties rule for so long especially if that party is abusing its power, is corrupt to the bone and constantly attacks media,journalists and the opposition.
-my claim for the judicary no longer being independent is stated above and it only happened this year so obviously there wont be any changes according to data.
- people have always been leaving croatia yet when it joined the EU it became 3x worse since people saw the opportunity to leave the country for Germany or Austria, Croatia has the potential to be better and to do better but under HDZ that is impossible and the opposition itself is not that good either the only way the country can develop is to completely rework the system.
that is all i have to say.
@@CroatianUltraNationalist >> GDP per capita has been growing due to half a million people leaving the country
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Sorry, but I am not interested in baseless assertions without evidence and without any logical thread. You have to do better than throwing out non-sequiturs like the one you just presented.
>> Infrastructure has seen some developments but not much
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Again, nice assertion. But facts and data disagree with you. If you look at road connectivity and quality of roads, Croatia is rated above Slovenia, Ireland, Norway, New Zealand, etc. If you look at the quality of overall infrastructure, Norway is much better like most OECD countries with an average score of 5.21. Btw, the world median is 4.13 with an upward trend. Croatia has a rating of 4.71 with an upward trend. Slovenia is at 4.59 with a downward trend. UK is at 4.99 with a downward trend. Serbia is at 3.5 with an upward trend, but it is below the world median. This is just for reference and to show you are just asserting things without any evidence.
Is Croatia's infrastructure top of the line? No. Like I said, we are lagging a bit behind the most developed countries, which all have ratings above 5.0. But according to European Bank for Reconstruction and Development (EBRD) quote: "The quality of infrastructure in Croatia has improved significantly in recent years as intensive work on expanding the existing network of modern roads, ports, and airports continues." So... yeah... there is data... and then there are baseless assertions. I trust the data.
>> croatias freedom score according to freedom house has dropped by 4 points since 2016 when HDZ came to power
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I see you just ignored the data I posted and decided to cherry pick something else where there has indeed been a slight decline in the last few years. But unfortunately for you, even if I accept your source, Croatia is still rated with a score of 83/100, which (while lower by 4 points since 2016) still equals to a free nation. For reference, Serbia is rated 57/100 as partially free. Do I need to remind you of your initial claims? You were trying to portray Croatia as a country where the judiciary is no longer independent and where elections are rigged in such a way that opposition cannot win. This is utter nonsense - proven by your own source which you decided to showcase.
Look, I can go on, but unfortunately, I don't have time for more baseless assertions. You can pull things out of your arse, or you can check the data. It's up to you what you want to believe. Either way, the data clearly shows that Croatia and Slovenia are developing and are indeed far more developed than the rest of the non-EU Balkan countries. Whatever parameter you decide to look at, the data is always pointing in that direction. And this is nothing new. Croatia and Slovenia have always been more developed - during Yugoslavia... and even before Yugoslavia. You trying to bring Croatia down to the level of some semi-dictatorship like Serbia, or full-on-dictatorship like Turkey or Russia... I don't understand why you are doing it? It's false... and overly critical in my honest opinion. But hey ho... I like to look at the data - instead of pulling things out of my arse.
PS. Also, change your nickname. It's embarrassing... Yikes...
@@redknight4805 we are yet to see a freedom score index for croatia in 2024 so we have to wait for a little longer.
i also never said that the elections were rigged rather that the opposition would have gotten more seats if there was no gerrymandering or bringing croats from bosnia to vote.
croatia is not a dictatorship(far from it) but under your pov everything is perfect under HDZ which is complete bs.
SDP is a terrible and corrupt party but saying HDZ made developments just goes to show you dont live in the country and have no idea what it is like.
also its not overly critical to say something that happened.
-HDZ appointed ivan turudić as attorney general even though he was linked with corrupt people
-Lex AP law
-attacks on media freedom
these are all things that happened this year(media freedom was attacked since 2020 but it became especially bad this year).
HDZ is a CRIMINALLY CONVICTED ORGANIZATION!
you ignore all of these points and act as if im the one who is making things up when in reality all of this did happen.
infrastructure is getting better
GDP is getting slightly better
but how will GDP or infrastructure help the citizens when the government is overly corrupt and the wages are small?
from your pov HDZ is turning croatia into a paradise which is simply not true.
croatia is a flawed democracy and i never called it an autocracy but in the past 2 years HDZ has been going in that direction.
you can look up all of these things.
Its so disappointing to see TLDR fail yet again on another Balkan-Video at addressing the rising autocracy and corruption in Albania led by Edi Rama. ☹️☹️☹️
he is not here to please the Albanian opposition which is even more corrupt...he talks about all the Balkans being equally corrupt and about geopolitics of Serbian irredentism fueled by Russia the mistakes of the European Union ect ect
@@lorenclorenc Oh more simple he doesn't know anything and only focus on the obvious. Thats what happens when a 12 year old thinks he is Bismarck and lectures about instability of the balkans from EuroNews soundbites.. Especially an English boy without a single GCSE.
Now that we got that out of the way, the Albanian opposition is corrupt but Edi Rama is Erdogan's surrogate in Albania. He follows Erdogan's book for autocracy. He is clever enough though to not piss off the Americans.
Tensions in the Balkans are just our pastime. Otherwise it doesn't feel like home.
Real
Tensions in the Balkans
Well, that’s new
The previous Balkan conflict was stopped just before they went to the finals. Thats why the tensions have always been high, had they fought that final battle they mosy likely would have respected each other😅
That "final battle" would have resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians. It looks like for you the life of a human being is just a joke.
@@davidkanizsai9914 Because it is, and also depends on the individual.
But the universe doesn't care ether way, only liberals and religious people think we should save everyone.
+ In geopolitics lives not only a joke, but a pawns to be used. The sooner you get it, the better.🙄
@@Arthur_Revan Daily dose of Realpolitik.
They should merge as one country. They'd be sure more likely to cooperate.
Well last time most of them were one country , things didn’t end so well
Do they still teach history to children in schools these days? I guess not. They WERE one country, that was the main source of all the problems.
No
@@davidkanizsai9914 clearly you never learned to detect humour as a child
Corruption perception index in Western Balkans according to Wikipedia (higher is less corrupt):
Slovenia 56
Croatia 50
Montenegro 46
North Macedonia 42
Kosovo 41
Albania 37
Serbia 36
Bosnia 35
Someone please explain to me why back in the 90s the Serb and Croat parts of Bosnia weren’t allowed to just go join Serbia and Croatia respectively? Everyone could have had their corners to themselves and had a nice timeout.
Cause it was hard to draw ethnic borders considering how much the entities mixed in Yugoslavia and there was a big economic impact that it would have on all sides.
because the west wanted to have an unstable province in the balkans
@CroatianUltranationalist of course an ultranationalist would say that hah!
Double standards.
But, what goes around comes around.
@@meeeee8745 So they explain Kosovo which was never republic in Yugoslavia but province inside Serbia like Crimea was province inside Ukraine ,they were given just becase Albanians were mayority and Albanian's allready have own country is called Albania ,in west turned blind eye off ethnics cleansing off 2/3 off Serb population and like 100% off Roma population
Kosovo is just an area called by the Serbs - it is not a country.
Lies its an independent state stop trying to rewrite history
@@natsdaley9615 yes it's so indepedent that atleast 89 countries don't recognize it not to mention it's being occupied by NATO
But Vućić is saying, by his acts , it is.
He gave Gazivode, ID's, vehicle plates, border crosings, electricity network, intetnational telephone number, police, corts, promise not apose Kosovo to join intetnational institutions, etc...
@@natsdaley9615 9 off 10 biggest countrues in the world dont recognise it and that 1 off 10 is USA who created it(and build own big giant military base there)
@@dzonikg he is some crack
Were the editors asleep for the past decade of these are the times they consider "with rising tensions".
WOT?
This guy just throws random news broadcast through years and then adds unrelated events elsewhere to portray an unsettling situation.
5:18. "...malign Russian influence..."
Gotcha. Proof this content's script came directly from the US State Department. 😅
yeah eu good, russia bad. We have heard it 1000 times already. 🤨
Finally, the world is becoming normal.
The American ambassador in Sarajevo, Mr. Murphy, has given himself the right to close the bank account of any person or organization in Bosnia and Herzegovina. If the bank refuses to do so, then the bank is prevented from using the Swift. It seems as if real life in Bosnia and Herzegovina is copied from Kafka's novels
People, when are we going to face the fact that every region that has had some Western intervention is unstable?
if Russia's influence on the region is malignant, then the influence of the West is terminal.
Nice try, Ruskibot.
@@krisdaschwab912 Did I say something that is not true?
if the west would rule with an iron fist like stalin, you would never hear any of these issues, they would be dealt with , with violence, and anyone who would dare to speak up would be instantly silenced , and once you have formed the people into docile cattle, you would have the peace you speak of
Russian bots lol.
@@armygamer1842 I'm just stating the facts, a thinking person can come to this conclusion.
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I was just thinking how well it was going in balkans.
So... just an average Monday then.
All the Balkans need some oil, to get that American liberty 🗽
More like they need to solve all the corruption situations in order to become more democratic countries to join the EU and to normalize good relations with each other , even though both are very difficult to achieve
Well if you put Kosovo after Yugoslavia as a seperate entity, you make it unstable. That's the base of the NATO there, Bondsteel.
😂🤡
6:10 Not accusations. The party was CONVICTED!
4:00 so London has that in common 1 to 1 with the Balkans?
Kosovo is Serbia
Vučić is, with his acts saying, it is not...
🙅
@@erikk.137 vucic is irrelevant and a sell out
Interesting video