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- Baldurs 3 Gameplay Honor Mode: Guide of how to defeat the Apostle of Myrkul in the Mindflayer Colony. This is the second stage of the fight with Ketheric Thorm. Make your life easier with my BG3 tricks for this fight. This guide requires you to have investigated the Tower before engaging in this final boss battle.
Level 8:
PC - open hand monk - TB & ASI: 8str,17dex(+1 AEB),15con(+1TB) ,8int,16 wis(+2), 8ch
Relevant weapon: Bracers of Defence
Astarion - Gloom 5/Assasin 3 - Sharpshooter: 8str, 17dex,15con,8int,16wis, 8ch
Relevant weapon: Hellfire Handcross bow, ne'er misser
Lae'zel - ASI & Sharpshooter, Mobile: 8str,16dex (+2),16con,8int,14wis, 8ch
Relevant weapon: Titanstring bow, hill giant club (boosts str to 19)
Shadowheart - Light Cleric - war caster & ASI: 8str,16dex,15con(+1),8int,17wis(+1),8ch
Relevant weapon: Blood of Lathander.
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Chapters:
0:00 - Buffing & Setting Up
0:27 - Positioning Scratch
1:40 - Setting up Ambush
1:50 - Surprising Ketheric
2:20 - Skipping Human Form
2:47 - Myrkul Spawns In
2:58 - Releasing Nightsong
3:24 - Starting Fight
5:29 - Nightsong Attacks
6:35 - Myrkul Dies - เกม
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I just hit act 2 in my honour mode run and am thinking about this fight coming up. The invis for surprise and Scratch to free Aelyn is a great trick. After that, seems mostly like a damage check before things start to get hairy! Oh, and knowing you can skip to the Myrkyl phase with that roll is nice, too. Thanks for the vid!
In order to get that that option to skip his human phase in this Myrkul fight, you need to get him to agree to surrender in the first fight at Moonrise. I have the explanation in the video before this one. And it is pretty much a DPR fight, try to get as much in as possible and hope that Nightsong gives him a good whack and you should be good.
BRO. THANK YOU FOR THIS. Even with the "noble" art of barrelmancy at my disposal, this fight was insane for me because I have been keeping my honor mode party hamstrung on purpose by keeping my main character out of most fights. I wouldn't have been able to get through this with my three level eights (fighter, cleric, rogue/ranger) without the surprise element and scratch tip allowing me to wail on him before any skellies even made it to the platform. Kudos, bravo, blessings unto your playthroughs. I'm SO GLAD I'M DONE THIS FIGHT.
Oh god no one is ready for what I learned. Fun fact I learned when fighting him.
Remember the ring you get in the Chest at the top of moonrise tower? Well that ring’s command… actually affects Myrkul.
So if you use Command: drop on him using a high charisma character… he drops his scythe and practically loses all of his power.
I’m not messing around. It works.
What’s the name of the ring?
Oh damn! Now that is very clever, guess ill need to try this next run :D
@@Dodine23 Ring of Exalted Marrow.
@@Dodine23 ring of exalted marrow
dows this work on honor mode tho?
What really helped me in this fight on honor mode was the arrow of Ilmater. Stops him from healing. Then I threw water on him and hit him with a ton of lightning. Getting Scratch to go to Aylin was genius!
To anyone needing any help with this that maybe did not prep as much as these help videos reccomemd you do. Here are some tips for what helped me on honour mode.
1) have someone , either cast or use a scroll of a wall of fire right across his pit, it does pretty good damage and will help wear him down.
Have your caster be someone with good saving chances so as not to get interrupted.
2) ignore the summons. Just try and focus him with everything you have as hard as you can
3) cast anything which will help you get advantage attacks on him. If you can get something like faie light, moon light butterflies, guiding bolt etc... or anything like that on him, even better.
Fire and radiant damage do well against him.
( for anyone on console ) cheese tip
If you are on honor mode, and your party is about to die, or the fight is not going well. Hard quit your game , go back to dashboard. And reload your game. It will start from last save depending where you saved, but will save your honor run.
You can cheese on PC too. Not with ALT + F4 but CTRL + ALT + DEL and kill the game. Or you can also make backup of your saves on PC ;-)
What do you mean by hard quit? Like force it to close or reboot the consol manually
@thedude5193 yeah if you are at a point where you know the fight is lost, if you press the guide button, then force quit the game you can avoid it saving after a bad fight and loosing your progress. You can load the game up again, and it will start you off from your last save point.
This still applies if you’ve already died, then quit the game right?
@nyxxn7198 The game automatically saves the second all your characters die. So catch it before they do. Even if you have one character left that's barely alive. If you hard quit, then it will go back to the last save before the fight began, but the second you all die , it will save it as a failed honour run. So you NEED to do it before it's too late. If you see the fight is not going your way, and it's probably likely you will lose, just hard quit.
Thanks for the technique! Got him on my honour mode, luckiest part is that I was able to stun him with Laezel! :D
thank you soo much you saved my honour gameplay
Tested this on tactician playthrough before doing it on my honor mode run and initially has issues with triggering the dialogue but figured it was the distance I was attacking from, got it to work on my honor mode run and I totally mopped the apostle of Myrkul. Thank you! 😊
Ran into the same problem in my first honor run, i did however not test it and believe me when i say i started to panic. Thankfully 2 paladin and a monk were strong enough to power through anyway
For me the best option to defeat the Myrkul (360 hp) was to cast mist lvl 3 on platform where he is.. Tham you can come to him hit him and than run out. And the necro guys he is sppawning dont wanna go to that platform to heal him.
To everyone watching this video: the dialogue will not always trigger this way. It's not a bad set up but be prepared to still fight the first phase regardless. Use the surprise round to free Aylin with scratch and kill the mind flayer.
I completely forgot about the mind flayer and just skipped everyone but Scratch's turn to just get to the dialogue. Mind flayer came down and stunned us all, and my 21 hour run came to an abrupt end 😔
Never had problems with this fight in any other run and I was honestly whooping the game's ass until then. Devastating loss lol.
In my previous video, with the moonrise tower fight, I show you how to set up this dialogue so it’s consistent!
@@neekBG3 Have it saved. Gonna be here again in my new honor playthrough soon.
@@neekBG3 I have watched previous vid, that's exactly what I did in my solo HM (not deathless) run but the dialogue just doesn't trigger, even if I just walk up.
Def going to do the invis surprise but going to get him as low as possible first round then use 4 barrels of smokepowder, oil and 20 holy water giga bomb so seal the deal
April 2024-Updated to where he only loses his melee attack. He can me harder to kill without his weapon after the update because he will spam his room wide AOE pull which hits for 40-90
Can other familiars/summons free Aylin or is it only scratch? Scratch has passed away in my playthrough.
I finally defeated this boss today, so I could finally check your method. Very effective, as always :)
It's a really cool find that the Apostle is surprised if you surprise Ketheric and make him end his own life.
This fight is impossoble for me, i do like two damage to him, or miss every attack and he one shots me and frightens me every turn, its bullshit
whats ur party level?
@@judjudersawn2596 8
Same thing happened to me in honour mode. Had no trouble with him on balanced or tactician but honour mode is near impossible. I was higher levelled in honour mode too than on tactician
He was the hardest boss in the game for me on tactician I barely managed I used a few explosive barrels that made just enough damage to finish the rest with my characters who where almost dead probably died over 30 times
What’s the Tav build you’re using? I need to make my Lae’zel that strong
I am running a high-elf monk, Way of the Open Hand.
My starting stats are: 8 str, 17 dex, 15 con, 8 int, 16 wis, 8 ch.
At level 4, I took Tavern Brawler Feat, and put +1 into consitution. I used the Hag Hair Boon to get +1 dexterity.
At level 8 I took Ability Score Improvement to get +2 to Wisdom. I also used the Graceful cloth to boost my dexterity from 18 to 20, to maxmise AC.
I use Elixirs of Hill Giant Strength to boost my Strength to 21 for big fights.
@@neekBG3 How did you get that radiant dmg on your Ki strikes? Is this something a monk can aquire just by leveling? My monk is only level 5 atm, so I have no idea.
@@pituk8913 it is an open hand monk, level 6 subclass feature. It is a passive toggle which you need to turn on to activate. You can get radiant. psychic, or necrotic damage toggles. The radiant damage feature is called "Manifesation of Soul"
@@neekBG3 Thanks. I'm currently doing my honour mode run and Myrkul scares me the most due to his aura that prevents healing. I've been gathering explosive barrels but I think I want to save them for Raphael. Besides, in terms of difficulty, barrelmancy kinda feels like cheating 😂
@@pituk8913there are more than enough barrels for both. Never used barrels on either so far but may try to do so with Raphael. I am not sure how you would manage the barrels with Myrkul
Monks are fncking OP, even until now.
Yes monks are OP when leveled correctly.
I actually beat this man using my lvl 8 Paladin in 3 attacks (Divine Smite) and a swing from Karlach.
Paladins are very useful on this fight. So if you have Tav as a Paladin and maybe Minthara, then you can probably mollywhop this Dude back into the Nine Hells itself.
I should try and get Minthara and see if I can beat him with just her, actually.
Does anyone know why the option to make ketheric repent doesn't appear for me? Can't seem to skip the first part of the fight
You need to pass the check on top of the tower where you fought him before
have 2 archer bards and a pure fighter ... my dmg is insane high, but in this fight i did close to nothing
had to change tactics after 3 turns ... i would have lost
had 20 smokepoderbombs and 13 smokepowder arrows in my pocket - they saved my ass
Pretty sure they patched it, invisiblity or not. It will trigger the dialogue anyway.
I played honor mode as Lae'zel with full fighters in my party... I destroyed everyone in my path, I consider fighter as the most OP class... but when the apostle of myrkul appeared, he just crushed my entire party with 1 critical hit... 43 hours of gameplay right to the trash... + over 300 hours of tactician mode which was an amazing adventure and I loved it... I wanted to do a run for every origin character with full party of the same class, I thought it was fun... but I guess it's kinda impossible... at least for me
So the game let me try repent him in moonrise but in this fight it doesn’t give me the dialog option? Does anyone know why ??
Did you figure that out? Same for me
@@kabeerrajoria you need to get and read the "letter to ketheric" which is located in his room at moonrise towers. then you need to pass the persuasion check related to that before you fight him at the top of moonrise towers.
Is it still possible to skip human form Ketheric on Honor Mode? I didn't get the option to persuade.
You can get that only if you’ve selected a specific dialogue when you first encounter him at the top of Moonrise Towers
@@Fizius thanks! I'll pay closer attention to my dialog in my next run. Is it also perhaps dependent on investigating his bedroom? Because I skipped that this time.
Well this it total shit.@@Fizius
I got to this fight, followed the vid guide, fucked it up and died.... damnit....
Oh man :-( what happened?
@@neekBG3 Well I messed up the surprise round by accidently starting the fight too soon with scratch. Myrkul got a crit on half my party launching one off into the abyss and downing the other, my warlock got targeted by touch of death killing him, and my monk couldn't stay alive with all the bone chill going off. He kept healing from all the necromites (which never tried to heal him on any of my other playthroughs) and we all died.... the end....
Just made it to this fight on my 5th honor mode, farthest I’ve gotten so far, and died because he saw one of my zombies. Same man. Same.
i dont know what i did wrong but I messed up the surprise. Myrkul kill my monk and the damn illithid keep stuning my whole team. To pout salt in the wound my monk just need another turn to kill the boss. So lessons learn for another run i guess
@@Rpgmain I've done 6 playthroughs of honor mode so far everytime I get to this fight I die I've tried an optimized party of one tank a healer, spell caster and ranger. I've tried a 2 tank healer, ranger, I've tried all magic, all ranged, and even all tanks my last playthrough was two tanks a gloomstalker assasin build and cleric paladin multiclass. All those parties tore through the other enemies in the game but as soon as we reached him we died it's pretty annoying honestly I'm on my 7th honor mode attempt now, I'm going to try this and if doesn't work I'm going to do all warlocks with dark vision and just cast darkness and hunger of Hadar and blast his ass with eldritch blast.
You can use the explosives that’s found in there too
Have I been totally blind and missed them? Where can I find them?
@@neekBG3 two in the left side of the elevator and two more near the mind puzzle area next to some pods.
When I did this the conversation didn’t start. Any ideas?
How close was your character who initiated combat to Ketheric when you did it?
@@neekBG3having the same issue. What would cause it to not work?
@@chiaoutzu7732same issue for me i get the surprise but no conversation even though without the surprise i can talk to him and skip his human form
Is Apostle Myrkul immune to being stunned?
Bosses have a +10 against affects that cause Incapacitation
played this blind on tactician and having no prior experience to these type of games except xcom.
went invis with my rouge mc to free nightsong and set up my guys to deal with minor threats wyll, gale, and shadowheart. cuz of kethric's resistances my main dmg cant pierce him well so i hipped him with spells. he downed nightsong acouple of times and sustained quite significant damage but managed to defeat kethric. and lo behold this big fucker appeared with the same resistances so my damage dont deal anything and he fucking heals. was not ready. all are one hp except for shadowheart because of her AC and resistances and Myrkul is above half hp. hoping for nightsong to be my win condition but i thing she lost spell slots cuz shes just doing normal attacks and his sustain is just too much. then, he focused on my rogue doing that long range necrotic spell. my shadowheart and mc has psionic blast and just reaction blast him and just reviving my mc with scratch to hopefully do it again. and he did it again. saw a ray of hope and decide to ride it out and we won having alittle scare at the end cuz he broke the loop. my god it was glorious. THIS GAME IS AMAZING
then just saw this vid you just skipped kethric alltogether and just killed myrkul like that. well good to know for my honor mode run
I am in my 3rd honor mode playthrough and short before the ketheric fight. I will try to get this dialoge options, sadly you did not put in the link to the video in here, which shows what to do before the ketheric/myrkyl fight.
So her it is: th-cam.com/video/65o4itjpnMc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=8CWx4JGKJbpVbeZ9
i dont get how people get so many damn potions
There are various safe ways to do so. Gather materials as you normally would, then get a hireling wizard and spec them to Transmutation school. You want to pump all of their stat points into Wisdom. At Level 2 they can have a chance to make double of every potion with a DC15 medicine check. Get a cleric to buff them with Enhance ability: Wisdom and you're getting double the potions you normally do, nearly every time.
The Elixirs of Hill Giant strength you can farm in Act 1 from Auntie Ethel whilst she is in the grove. Just buy out her stock, partial rest (costs 0 supplies) or respec a hireling and with each level up or partial rest you reset their inventories. You can collect a lot of various potions this way.
Of course, with the right gear I also just pickpocket the vast majority of them, then reset the inventories as stated above. Most potions have a low pickpocket threshold and you wont fail on them.
Step 1 be a loot goblin
Seriously I have over 100lbs of potions, scrolls, and arrows, I am constantly over-encumbered it’s a problem
@@LuckyOwl_7 I can guarantee I’ll finish my run with half of this unused. Never know when you might need it after all 👀
Easy..pick pocket..thug life bro
It doesnt work! Scratch will never stay visible! Maybe they patched it.
Are you doing it in turn based mode and remembering to keep entering it?
it still works!
I was really appreciating the game for 130 hours and it was really worth being as criative as i could, except for this shitty ass fight that only allows you to play one way and hope for the best, such a disappointment