$100 vs $3,500: Piccolo Trumpet Edition
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"this is like the loving tender kiss of a wife and this is like the loving tender kiss of a mother in law." I have never heard such a great line delivered let a lone for the purposes of comparing instruments.
I thought Trent was going to say "loving tender kiss of a dementor" for the 2nd one :)
That is true for the sound
I’m stealing that phrase
Really sets the tone for the video
It is a testament to Trent's playing that there were moments where the droopy one sounded pretty tolerable!
Thankyou for that, your comment made me laugh so hard and for so long that my sides are still hurting. We need this kind of service during covid.
Got it.
You want to tell us that for playing military signals a cheap trumpet is good enough.
I fully agree.
It's obvious that the German trumpet not only looks nicer to play but it actually sounds much better too. Not only does the German trumpet have attention to every single detail, but I'm pretty sure they'll go even as far as to test their instrument before it goes out to stores.
Actually, how one feels about playing a horn DOES impact how others hear the sound. Why even try to put in dynamics or care about intonation, if it feels like you're trying to inflate a tire with your lips on the stem of a 20 ton truck or if the valves make you feel like you're suffering with arthritis?
I was caught off guard, laughed so hard when you first played the piccolo trumpet shaped object!
Something about you looks different than I remember…
Also that arrangement at the end of the video was beautiful.
Looking back, looks like he lost weight
unfortunately, he's been aging
The Indian one would make a really nice wall ornament, as long as nobody ever tried to play it.
Thanks for the video trent
"Finest pealed cow" 😂
He's said this stuff in the trumpet making video as well 😂
Man, I fucking love the humour in this video XD I literally laughed more than once while watching this
Oh my dog, yes. I had a Couesnon 3 valve that I picked up in a pawn shop. It was really a struggle to play and eventually, I could manage to get it to play in tune. I bought a Bach 196S and it was magnificent by comparison.
My wife, from the far side of the kitchen: "Well, the second one _sounds_ harder."
Trent why must you make me laugh so loud at 1am
The Indian trumpet has a better tone than I expected, but the intonation is dreadful and it sounds strained, like you need to focus all your energy to get the sound out. The German trumpet sounds like you're just playing and enjoying.
My boy Trent getting SLIM!!!
Brass instruments look quite nice as wall art. Many of these Indian (and Chinese) instruments are pretty affordable if you want to display one, or a collection of three, or ten, or an entire orchestral brass section, as wall art.
Hmm. I don't know Trent, this is a difficult one...
NOPE. Can't keep a straight face.
Even I, who have had no experience with brass instruments, could tell the difference with my eyes closed. And I correctly figured that the first passage was played on the more expensive trumpet first. You said that playing the cheap one was painful to do...was just as painful listening to it.
You can get a pic for $100?
Please dont
Don’t do this.
Its pretty obvious which is the better of the two. On the one hand, the German one sounds quite nice and looks like it would be better to play whereas the Indian one sounds like a sick cat that has inhailed a lot of helium. I have two saxophones and I have quite a similar experience with them as you have with these trumpets. One is a alto sax made my Yanagisawa and its the best built and easiest playing saxophone I have every played and I love it. The other is a curved soprano sax that costs under half as much as the alto and made in Tawain and when I try to play it, I feel like I am walking on eggshells and trying not to squeak or sound bad and I have played soprano saxophones in the past with no issues.
Funny enough I was just talking to my trumpet instructor yesterday about the importance of making sure you purchase a good model for piccolo (or for any horn). I just bought my Bach Strad. and I am about to buy a Bach C trumpet, that an old student of his is selling, that I will use in orchestra, and a bunch of other settings.
I think I have seen you play tuba, so hats off for having that kind of lip range.
Yep, that choice is a toughy, for sure. Thanks to your sarcastic and completely ironic facial expressions, the answer is clear...😉😏
Trent, this is exactly the reason why people should never buy cheap brass instruments. On the second hand market there are many true gems, but new + cheap = bad.
Love your humor. I hope junky instruments never drop of production, because it is so much fun to watch you hate them.
I didn't think the quality of $100 one was bad per se, but I can definitely tell you're struggling to make it sound as "good" as you had it
The intonation is abysmal.
@@owensmith7530 well I mean it is a picc lol. I was referring to the sound quality though, not the intonation.
by the sound of it the mother in law is slipping in a bit of tongue too
Another comment that had me absolutely creasing myself with laughter. Trent's channel has some high quality commenters.
Haven't seen your content in a long time, but have you gotten slimmer? I remember you differently, still great content
I agree, he kinda looks like John Green
You can see Trent die inside at 3:44.
No discernible difference. Basically the same instrument. I can’t even tell which one you’re holding. I mean they’re just so visually and auditorily similar.
The man has the quicker 5 0’clock shadow I have ever seen. Full beard between scenes one and two!
What piece did you play at 2:25?
The British Grenadiers
can i have the link for the 100 dollar piccolo trumpet?
It's not really fair comparing rotary valves to piston valves. Especially when the rotary valves are carefully machined and polished and fitted, but the piston valves are punched out on an old press with tolerances to the nearest centimeter. PS - Did a deaf man sound test the cheaper one?
Do piccolo trumpets use a trumpet, French horn or custom mouthpiece?
…”Tender kiss of a mother-in-law” haha!
German much nicer, clear tone, sounds like very open blow, you seemed to hit your pitch with ease with good slotting. The Indian model sounded a bit strangled like lots of resistence, tone rather flat, you seemed to have to work much harder to get your pitch and it didn't' want to hold, i.e. fracking; more work than fun. German please, danka!
Agreed, Danke!
Just looking at the design of the Indian one, you can tell there is a lot of resistance.
On the other hand the indian trumpet is most probably much better for indian music.
Your demo proves that even if it looks like a piccolo trumpet and sounds (more or less) like a piccolo trumpet, it still may not be a piccolo trumpet. You clearly could not bend the Indian-made instrument to your will no matter how hard you tried.
At least the Indian one looks nice. If it keeps its color it'd be nice for the wall
Can we have the sheet music please
Bro grew a beard in 1 minute
I'm surprised the $100 one even played
One is ''easy'' to play the other one is horrible going higher! Since the instrument is small, any imperfection in the build of the instrument will have a significant effect on its playability of it. The reason piccolo trumpets are expensive is that they need a lot of attention in the finish, hence time to make sure the build is perfect!
I like the rotary piccolo trumpet, also what is the piece?
What intro music did you use in these older videos?
I bought a USED Indian piccolo trumpet on eBay unseen and untried, and because it was cheap (I thought). Now I know why it was cheap, and why the vendor got rid of it. One valve always sticks, and it is hard to slot. I rarely even try anymore. (I also have a Selmer Bb piccolo trumpet, bought new many years ago; but I rarely play that either. Perhaps it is just me?)
I may have to sue for the trauma inflicted upon me.
Cheap picc sounds like it has an air leak on some notes. Also what does that fifth valve do on the expensive one?
It makes some high notes eazyer to hit
It's not a fifth valve, it's a trigger for the third valve slide.
@@bagnewauckland thx
I want a picolo trumpet so badly ( I have no idea why) but damn they are expensive.
Well the second one sounds like a cat strangling on an inhaler compared to the first one. I only used the audio so I'm sorry if I just said that the 3000 usamrican dollar trumpet sounded horrific
Based on the intro I got the impression you would "throw" the test. But then I remembered your superior skill level, and decided that the intro came after you played them.
Wondering this would this $100 thing be suitable for the rare occasional player?
No, there's no situation in which I'd recommend this instrument. The cheap Chinese-made ones are better than the cheap Indian ones.
NOOOOOOO the cheap piccolo trumpet is completely outta tune!!!!!!! Oh man you tried😭 I loved the good piccolo one tho, nice job!
I know which one caused ME physical pain!
That German trumpet sounds lovely. Can I just ask to confirm who the maker is/was?
The cheap one sounds like it has an air leak in it
Trent thanks for the comedy . Its nearly as funny as watching the three stooges. Isn't the 2nd horn from the 3 stooges factory?? 🧐
Trent, would you like a Bass Trumpet? I have one. It works but I'm trying to cull the herd and the whole concept of a bass trumpet is a solution to a non-existent problem.
Could you kindly send me some details on it? I have one already, but if it’s different then I could be interested. Trenthamiltonnz@gmail.com
That indian actually had some tone qualities at the last melody. Not comparable to the grrman thou.
Do you think the India option would have been slightly better if it was a rotary also?
only if it was made in the Indian state of Bavaria
Interesting comparison, but it would have been a little more fair if you had used two piston trumpets or two rotary trumpets.....
It didn't sound too bad for $100 maybe it was a struggle to make it sound good.
When your shoes are a few size too small,you better play the device from India. You toes will curl so much that it will relieve the pain.
By the time we got to Happy Birthday, the $100 horn still sounded like a $50 horn!
Me at the start of the video: How bad can it be?
Me at 2:43: Oh dear lord...
Go India go! (As far as you can run).
The silver bell really makes it a very nice warm tone
Amazing! Obvious.
Not using proper technique on the Indian trumpet will always make an inferior tone. Not a fair comparison.
Oh my God, you are clean shaven! This us the first video I have seen with you clean shave... oh, nevermind
Gah! Why does such a thing exist?
I have an old Selmer piccolo and found tight and stuffy, almost unplayable and if one tries too hard, forced lips can be the result. Then I could try a Getzen piccolo and suddenly, I knew, it was not me, as I had always thought. The Getzen was far easier to play and it didn't invite overblowing as much as the Selmer. Sadly for an amateur the price is too high. One almost never needs it in our amateur symphonic orchestra and there is now also competition from the baroque trumpet.
About here, that Indian piccolo sounds too like it's very constricted on some notes. The intonation is even in the hands of such a fine player still not good enough for the orchestra but better than expected for such a cheap instrument.
I might well buy the Indian one. For the difference in price, I could buy a half-decent car. Plus the fact that I'd sound just as awful playing the German one as playing the Indian one.
don't buy the Indian one and have some gas-money
@@hrenes There's a thought !
Is Trent reading from cue cards or is what he's saying "off the cuff" or a combination thereof? 🤔 Does anyone really care? 😊 ♫
No offense but this man changed from 40-50 year old man to 20-25 American male
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It musts hurt to play that piece of garbage.. sorry for your pain. It sounds vile - a $100 trumpet that is so bad the manufacturer ought to pay people to play it.
there was no difficulty in hearing the difference. Is this another excretion from sai musicals?
Yes indeed. I've tried a lot of their excrescences now.
There I go again almost falling out of my chair with laughter. Boy this video's comments have been good entertainment.
German cornet sounds better.
Perhaps it's because of the instrument itself, but I find that even with the German one the tone is still too thin. Trent is a brilliant low brass instrumentalist, but I'm not sure on higher brass
The first piece you played on the Indian piccolo sounded really bad, like a beginner playing lots of bum notes but, given your virtuosity, I guess it was tuning issues on the cheap trumpet. However by the time you played the last piece (Happy Birthday) the piccolo didn't sound too bad (at least to my non-expert ear) so maybe you had become more used to it. And for many people $3500 is unaffordable so, even though it is not perfect, at least the $100 piccolo might be good enough to get them started?
100th comment! Also great video.