I love MCO. My daughter sings with the choir in AZ and it is incredible. Prof Stewart is like a magician to watch. He is so good and expects the best from everyone including himself. So grateful my daughter has the opportunity to sing with them!
I think it would take a lot to demonstrate what being in MCO is like. This small example shows the intensity of concert day, and even then, Brett brings in humor. MCO is a family. There is so much love, trust and respect there. We all are constantly learning, children and adults, and we don't shrink away, we rise to the challenge. Sometimes you have to work harder than you wanted to, or had planned to. Sometimes you're asked to learn music so advanced, you feel like you're drowning trying to learn it. Sometimes your neighbor wants to talk to you during dress rehearsal. IT IS ALL WORTH IT. The tremendous music and experience of MCO is life changing. There is no better musical education.
I'm in Dallas MCO, and I'll tell ya, its great! Those who are willing to act like adults thrive and grow so much there! Thank you for covering this on TH-cam : )
Im a violinist with the EVMCO. I appreciate this coverage, Glenn, because it's not standard anymore to require discipline and attention from children. In schools they rule the classroom with chaos and disrespect. Im 50 yrs old and have played with many groups, I've toured Europe twice with a multigenerational string orchestra out of San Francisco who were extremely professional and talented. But MCO, this is a whole new game. A 4 hour rehearsal flies by, with NO amount of wasted time. I've sat in other groups where the conductor will waste 10-15 minutes blithering on with wasteful reprimand or discussion. I've sat in an MCO rehearsal where there were 500 youth singers in the chairs of the auditorium, 100 orchestra members and another 500 adult singers on stage. Brandon was talking briefly to the adults, and mid-sentence turned around to the floor where he pointed to a particular child (out of this sea of kiddos) and said "YOU! yes you, I love you, you are wonderful, but you are talking and you're done." He then quickly pointed to one of the adult volunteers at the aisle and said "You please escort this young singer out, and have them call their parent." That was the end of that, back to work. There are 1000's of participants and the productions are EXTRAORDINARY!! The level of professionalism and respect is unlike anything I've ever seen. But the support and love within the group is also unrivaled. I am pushed to be a better musician, I am inspired to be a better person because of my involvement with these conductors and this group of fine musicians. Yes its demanding, but the type of intensity that leaves you feeling breathless, wonderful, inspired and accomplished. I learn so much and don't want it to end. So, as a judgey person on the outside saying "oh, look how rough he's being to that poor little innocent child with his self-esteem etc" I say, that child will learn to focus, learn that he has the ability for self-mastery, and is better than he knows. This is self-esteem, where that child perhaps got to sing in Carnegie Hall? I played the Saturday afternoon concert this past July 13. there were 4 year olds singing on that historic stage. They will remember that their whole life, and know because they were disciplined in their conduct and their musical achievements they were a part of this wonderful experience. So no, these conductors aren't about ego. I've seen that, I've played under those batons and its tiresome and frustrating. This group is about the music and the message. Go to a concert, you'll be glad you did.
I live in East Mesa and have been to many EVMCO concerts over the last 8 years or so. The level of quality at the performance is usually amazing as you say. I have considered trying to find a way to fit it into my families schedule to participate also. However, I have several friends (at least 15) who either individually or with their families are currently (last semester) or have been part of it, and almost every single one of them have dropped out or are considering it. They say that the focus has been slowly shifting more and more away from blessing the lives of the participants and more on meeting the demand of putting out a high quality performance. Your own example demonstrates to me that they consider sacrificing a child's participation and experience performing as a worthy sacrifice, in order to instill the fear in the others that they will be the next one tossed if they mess up. I agree that the world has gone too far to the extreme about not disciplining children but going to the opposite extreme is just as wrong. What does that child who was kicked out learn? What opportunity do they have to apply whatever they may have learned now that they have been kicked out? I guess it is better that one child should perish than that an entire choir get out of hand and put out a mediocre performance? Public shaming is not a Christlike attribute. There has to be a medium ground that is not so extreme. I see a trend (from personal friends and acquaintances) that will unfortunately end in a mediocre performance anyway when Bret and Brandon no longer have people lining up to participate in their choirs and orchestras. Most everyone I know will not be back next semester. I personally know 2 to be exact that are still keeping the faith of MCO. Sad. I hope Brandon and Bret find a better balance soon and refocus their efforts and priorities on people first again and they will see that the quality will still be there. Otherwise I think we may eventually loose this potentially great choir and orchestra.
@@myjakpntami with respect for your opinion, let me clarify. That child I spoke about wasn't kicked out of the group, just that rehearsal. This is a professional level group. Not Ward Choir. Yes, the product is completely different. With literally hundreds of young children in a room,you would get zero accomplished without an extremely high level of respect and discipline. The beauty of this group is, its not a hostage situation, so belong or not, your choice. For me, I would love for my kids to experience this level of musical integrity, along with the skills and education they gain, its a remarkable opportunity. There's plenty of mediocrity in the world, if that's what you're looking for.
I understand what you said about the emphasis on a high quality performance. It is so rewarding to be in such a demanding organization. These children (and adults) are prepared and this level of discipline is expected whenever it’s needed. It’s not an organization that is about having fun, though they have parties and social events as well. It’s about learning, challenging us, performing, and sharing a powerful message in a way that draws attention. While I understand that this is NOT for everyone, I want to move to Arizona to learn under Brandon. I’ve never been more moved, touched, challenged or learned as much as I do in the few rehearsals I get with him each year. It’s a privilege and as the quality and ability of the music increases, the message becomes more powerful as well. We can’t continue to be pushed at that level without that discipline and focus. I’m so grateful for this choir and it has been one of the biggest blessings of my life. Literally. I can’t begin to express the excitement of singing extremely difficult music at a level of quality I never imagined I could do. I am a moderately advanced amateur but they make me into a professional level singer- something I never imagined. I had to take a semester off for my health and I ached to be there. So for those who aren’t comfortable being pushed that hard, it’s not a good fit. It isn’t like a church choir. It’s so much more. And those that rise to that challenge are thrilled to be part of it.
What’s telling is how much the children love the choir and want to be there, how proud they are of their accomplishments. While there is strict discipline and what you highlighted, there is so much love, nurturing, and a positive spirit about the whole experience. While it is a joy to sing under all 5 directors who each have such a different style, Brandon brings out a musicality and emotions and power of each piece in a spectacular way. It is a privilege to work with him. Millennial Choirs and Orchestra feels like a movement and a mission to make excellent, uplifting music to bring all closer to heaven, as much as an organization.
I agree with Glenn. I have been in several choirs and the conductors I respected most were those who kept control of the singers. I hated rehearsals where people talked when the conductor talked or where the conductor had to repeat the same thing over and over because singers didn't make note of the instructions. There is nothing wrong with promoting discipline and there's nothing like a concert where all the singers and conductor are one. It's perfection. Well done Millennial Choir.
You want to see something better than millennial choirs and orchestras...??? OK check these out on TH-cam "Biserica Batista Speranta Oradea" and also the kids on "Speranta Media" ....all this is perfectly recorded and in the case of the kids- they are so relaxed, sound so good, they are cute and the audience is drawn to them big time. TH-cam says they will rack up 535,000,000 (million) hits within 5 years,
Why do you think it is a competition? This attitude is what breeds kicking a kid out right before a concert as has been described in the comments here from participants. Shouldn't we be happy about any group that is doing the best they can to worship our God?
I was considering putting my children in this choir but after seeing this I will not... that was straight up shaming a child publicly! NO thank you with a conductor with a power trip who feels all big because he can belittle a child. Then sad to see other adults condoning it!
“This is not just music.” I kept saying to myself. “This is not just some performance. This is some of the most effective training on life my kids will ever receive.” www.gregtrimble.com/how-the-millennial-choir-changed-my-entire-outlook-on-music/
Good luck with that! It's probably best your children aren't involved. Sorry to say, but they would never survive what it takes to be great in this industry or in life. My boys were in the Texas Boys Choir years ago - with that very same level of discipline and they were better for it! If they made ONE mistake on a note, they were required to be the first to publicly raise their hands and they too would be publicly shamed if they misbehaved. They even STOOD when adults entered the room. Now they are adults and highly successful. I differ with your response to the public shaming. No child should EVER disrespect an adult in public - EVER. Impudent children deserve public shaming. I can assure you those children will do one of two things - they will either whine to their parents who will complain and they will LEAVE the choir or they will never, ever make that mistake again. A wise parent will teach them to take the public criticism with graciousness. With parental permissiveness so pervasive in the last two generations of parenting, we wonder why we now have a generation of snowflakes melting down and protesting at every little wrong done to them in the world.
Kaylee Webster I've sang with MCO for a few years now, and it's amazing. It's strict. It's a lot of work. But holy crap, they sound amazing. And that's not a fair representation of the Stewart brothers. There is one thing they always make sure that the members, both young and old, know, and that is that they love them. They will buckle down, especially during dress rehearsals. But they are incredibly loving, and I swear there's not one member of MCO who regrets joining
There is a lot of love and kindness in teaching them. When it is time to perform, they demand exactness. Come to a rehearsal and see! It's free at the beginning of the semester.
Your children would be lucky to pass the audition to join. If they were truly talented and able to be part of the group based on their abilities then their experience would be unique and life lasting. This is a semi-professional level group in which complete engagement is required. If you as a parent want to recompense mediocrity and lack of discipline just keep them at your local elementary school.
Because we don't believe they're apostate. We simply believe there's more to the gospel than just the Bible. Also Millennial Choirs and Orchestras is for anyone who would like to join or experience beautiful, quality music, not just LDS, or even Christians. Anyone is allowed to join! Check out the website for more info, it really is an amazing experience for both the choirs and the audience, and Brett and Brandon would be more than delighted to have anyone join, or come to our concerts!
MCO is not affiliated with any particular religion. Their motto is "All ages. All faiths. One voice". They sing great music from the masters and modern composers, and are unapologetic in their desire to bring God back into the concert hall.
Mormons do not consider other religions apostates. They are the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They believe there is so much good in all Christians. They also believe that in preparation for the return of Jesus Christ to the earth that God opened the heavens. We believe that we now have even more knowledge through prophets in our day! It’s not refuting the Bible. It just helps us to better understand the meaning of the Bible. Many in this organization are members of the restored Church of Jesus Christ. But many are other Christians and people of faith. They want to praise God and bring all closer to God. They sing diverse music from different backgrounds. All of it praises God and country.
. AREN'T ALL RELIGIONS APOSTATE??? . FAITH IN GOD AND JESUS REQUIRES NO RELIGION MADE BY MEN. . GOD ASKS FOR OBEDIANCE TO HIS LAW - NOT MAN'S LAW - THE 'WHOOS' GOT IT WRONG. . YES, THE CHOSEN ONES PAID THE PRICE FOR NOT FOLLOWING GOD's LAW. IN 70 A.D.THEY AND JERUSALEM WERE ANNILATED. . JOHN SMITH'S SPACE ALIENS ARE DEMONIC FALLEN ANGELS WHO USE ANGELIC POWERS OF INCARNATION TO MISLEAD. CATHOLIC'S WORSHIP OF MOTHER MARY IS ALSO DEMONIC FORE SHE REPRESENTS SATAN. TODAY'S 'CHRISTIANITY' IS BASED ON LUCIFERIAN PAGANISM. ALL ARE SATANIC. . THE FIGHT HERE ON EARTH IS REALLY VERY SIMPLE - IT'S... . GOD'S SEED vs SATAN's SEED. . SO, WHOSE SIDE ARE YOU ON??? .
I love MCO. My daughter sings with the choir in AZ and it is incredible. Prof Stewart is like a magician to watch. He is so good and expects the best from everyone including himself. So grateful my daughter has the opportunity to sing with them!
I think it would take a lot to demonstrate what being in MCO is like. This small example shows the intensity of concert day, and even then, Brett brings in humor. MCO is a family. There is so much love, trust and respect there. We all are constantly learning, children and adults, and we don't shrink away, we rise to the challenge. Sometimes you have to work harder than you wanted to, or had planned to. Sometimes you're asked to learn music so advanced, you feel like you're drowning trying to learn it. Sometimes your neighbor wants to talk to you during dress rehearsal. IT IS ALL WORTH IT. The tremendous music and experience of MCO is life changing. There is no better musical education.
I'm in Dallas MCO, and I'll tell ya, its great! Those who are willing to act like adults thrive and grow so much there! Thank you for covering this on TH-cam : )
Im a violinist with the EVMCO. I appreciate this coverage, Glenn, because it's not standard anymore to require discipline and attention from children. In schools they rule the classroom with chaos and disrespect. Im 50 yrs old and have played with many groups, I've toured Europe twice with a multigenerational string orchestra out of San Francisco who were extremely professional and talented. But MCO, this is a whole new game. A 4 hour rehearsal flies by, with NO amount of wasted time. I've sat in other groups where the conductor will waste 10-15 minutes blithering on with wasteful reprimand or discussion. I've sat in an MCO rehearsal where there were 500 youth singers in the chairs of the auditorium, 100 orchestra members and another 500 adult singers on stage. Brandon was talking briefly to the adults, and mid-sentence turned around to the floor where he pointed to a particular child (out of this sea of kiddos) and said "YOU! yes you, I love you, you are wonderful, but you are talking and you're done." He then quickly pointed to one of the adult volunteers at the aisle and said "You please escort this young singer out, and have them call their parent." That was the end of that, back to work. There are 1000's of participants and the productions are EXTRAORDINARY!! The level of professionalism and respect is unlike anything I've ever seen. But the support and love within the group is also unrivaled. I am pushed to be a better musician, I am inspired to be a better person because of my involvement with these conductors and this group of fine musicians. Yes its demanding, but the type of intensity that leaves you feeling breathless, wonderful, inspired and accomplished. I learn so much and don't want it to end. So, as a judgey person on the outside saying "oh, look how rough he's being to that poor little innocent child with his self-esteem etc" I say, that child will learn to focus, learn that he has the ability for self-mastery, and is better than he knows. This is self-esteem, where that child perhaps got to sing in Carnegie Hall? I played the Saturday afternoon concert this past July 13. there were 4 year olds singing on that historic stage. They will remember that their whole life, and know because they were disciplined in their conduct and their musical achievements they were a part of this wonderful experience. So no, these conductors aren't about ego. I've seen that, I've played under those batons and its tiresome and frustrating. This group is about the music and the message. Go to a concert, you'll be glad you did.
I live in East Mesa and have been to many EVMCO concerts over the last 8 years or so. The level of quality at the performance is usually amazing as you say. I have considered trying to find a way to fit it into my families schedule to participate also. However, I have several friends (at least 15) who either individually or with their families are currently (last semester) or have been part of it, and almost every single one of them have dropped out or are considering it. They say that the focus has been slowly shifting more and more away from blessing the lives of the participants and more on meeting the demand of putting out a high quality performance. Your own example demonstrates to me that they consider sacrificing a child's participation and experience performing as a worthy sacrifice, in order to instill the fear in the others that they will be the next one tossed if they mess up. I agree that the world has gone too far to the extreme about not disciplining children but going to the opposite extreme is just as wrong. What does that child who was kicked out learn? What opportunity do they have to apply whatever they may have learned now that they have been kicked out? I guess it is better that one child should perish than that an entire choir get out of hand and put out a mediocre performance? Public shaming is not a Christlike attribute. There has to be a medium ground that is not so extreme. I see a trend (from personal friends and acquaintances) that will unfortunately end in a mediocre performance anyway when Bret and Brandon no longer have people lining up to participate in their choirs and orchestras. Most everyone I know will not be back next semester. I personally know 2 to be exact that are still keeping the faith of MCO. Sad. I hope Brandon and Bret find a better balance soon and refocus their efforts and priorities on people first again and they will see that the quality will still be there. Otherwise I think we may eventually loose this potentially great choir and orchestra.
@@myjakpntami with respect for your opinion, let me clarify. That child I spoke about wasn't kicked out of the group, just that rehearsal. This is a professional level group. Not Ward Choir. Yes, the product is completely different. With literally hundreds of young children in a room,you would get zero accomplished without an extremely high level of respect and discipline. The beauty of this group is, its not a hostage situation, so belong or not, your choice. For me, I would love for my kids to experience this level of musical integrity, along with the skills and education they gain, its a remarkable opportunity. There's plenty of mediocrity in the world, if that's what you're looking for.
I understand what you said about the emphasis on a high quality performance. It is so rewarding to be in such a demanding organization. These children (and adults) are prepared and this level of discipline is expected whenever it’s needed. It’s not an organization that is about having fun, though they have parties and social events as well. It’s about learning, challenging us, performing, and sharing a powerful message in a way that draws attention. While I understand that this is NOT for everyone, I want to move to Arizona to learn under Brandon. I’ve never been more moved, touched, challenged or learned as much as I do in the few rehearsals I get with him each year. It’s a privilege and as the quality and ability of the music increases, the message becomes more powerful as well. We can’t continue to be pushed at that level without that discipline and focus. I’m so grateful for this choir and it has been one of the biggest blessings of my life. Literally. I can’t begin to express the excitement of singing extremely difficult music at a level of quality I never imagined I could do. I am a moderately advanced amateur but they make me into a professional level singer- something I never imagined. I had to take a semester off for my health and I ached to be there. So for those who aren’t comfortable being pushed that hard, it’s not a good fit. It isn’t like a church choir. It’s so much more. And those that rise to that challenge are thrilled to be part of it.
What’s telling is how much the children love the choir and want to be there, how proud they are of their accomplishments. While there is strict discipline and what you highlighted, there is so much love, nurturing, and a positive spirit about the whole experience. While it is a joy to sing under all 5 directors who each have such a different style, Brandon brings out a musicality and emotions and power of each piece in a spectacular way. It is a privilege to work with him. Millennial Choirs and Orchestra feels like a movement and a mission to make excellent, uplifting music to bring all closer to heaven, as much as an organization.
I agree with Glenn. I have been in several choirs and the conductors I respected most were those who kept control of the singers. I hated rehearsals where people talked when the conductor talked or where the conductor had to repeat the same thing over and over because singers didn't make note of the instructions.
There is nothing wrong with promoting discipline and there's nothing like a concert where all the singers and conductor are one. It's perfection. Well done Millennial Choir.
The Millennial Choir is one of those great ideas that brings people together and inspires them to look outside themselves and just look up.
You want to see something better than millennial choirs and orchestras...??? OK check these out on TH-cam "Biserica Batista Speranta Oradea" and also the kids on "Speranta Media" ....all this is perfectly recorded and in the case of the kids- they are so relaxed, sound so good, they are cute and the audience is drawn to them big time. TH-cam says they will rack up 535,000,000 (million) hits within 5 years,
Why do you think it is a competition? This attitude is what breeds kicking a kid out right before a concert as has been described in the comments here from participants. Shouldn't we be happy about any group that is doing the best they can to worship our God?
I was considering putting my children in this choir but after seeing this I will not... that was straight up shaming a child publicly! NO thank you with a conductor with a power trip who feels all big because he can belittle a child. Then sad to see other adults condoning it!
“This is not just music.” I kept saying to myself. “This is not just some performance. This is some of the most effective training on life my kids will ever receive.” www.gregtrimble.com/how-the-millennial-choir-changed-my-entire-outlook-on-music/
Good luck with that! It's probably best your children aren't involved. Sorry to say, but they would never survive what it takes to be great in this industry or in life. My boys were in the Texas Boys Choir years ago - with that very same level of discipline and they were better for it! If they made ONE mistake on a note, they were required to be the first to publicly raise their hands and they too would be publicly shamed if they misbehaved. They even STOOD when adults entered the room. Now they are adults and highly successful. I differ with your response to the public shaming. No child should EVER disrespect an adult in public - EVER. Impudent children deserve public shaming. I can assure you those children will do one of two things - they will either whine to their parents who will complain and they will LEAVE the choir or they will never, ever make that mistake again. A wise parent will teach them to take the public criticism with graciousness. With parental permissiveness so pervasive in the last two generations of parenting, we wonder why we now have a generation of snowflakes melting down and protesting at every little wrong done to them in the world.
Kaylee Webster I've sang with MCO for a few years now, and it's amazing. It's strict. It's a lot of work. But holy crap, they sound amazing. And that's not a fair representation of the Stewart brothers. There is one thing they always make sure that the members, both young and old, know, and that is that they love them. They will buckle down, especially during dress rehearsals. But they are incredibly loving, and I swear there's not one member of MCO who regrets joining
There is a lot of love and kindness in teaching them. When it is time to perform, they demand exactness. Come to a rehearsal and see! It's free at the beginning of the semester.
Your children would be lucky to pass the audition to join. If they were truly talented and able to be part of the group based on their abilities then their experience would be unique and life lasting. This is a semi-professional level group in which complete engagement is required. If you as a parent want to recompense mediocrity and lack of discipline just keep them at your local elementary school.
Since Mormon consider Catholics and Protestants apostate why is the majority of there music from apostates ?
Because we don't believe they're apostate. We simply believe there's more to the gospel than just the Bible. Also Millennial Choirs and Orchestras is for anyone who would like to join or experience beautiful, quality music, not just LDS, or even Christians. Anyone is allowed to join! Check out the website for more info, it really is an amazing experience for both the choirs and the audience, and Brett and Brandon would be more than delighted to have anyone join, or come to our concerts!
MCO is not affiliated with any particular religion. Their motto is "All ages. All faiths. One voice". They sing great music from the masters and modern composers, and are unapologetic in their desire to bring God back into the concert hall.
Mormons do not consider other religions apostates. They are the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They believe there is so much good in all Christians. They also believe that in preparation for the return of Jesus Christ to the earth that God opened the heavens. We believe that we now have even more knowledge through prophets in our day! It’s not refuting the Bible. It just helps us to better understand the meaning of the Bible. Many in this organization are members of the restored Church of Jesus Christ. But many are other Christians and people of faith. They want to praise God and bring all closer to God. They sing diverse music from different backgrounds. All of it praises God and country.
. AREN'T ALL RELIGIONS APOSTATE???
. FAITH IN GOD AND JESUS REQUIRES NO RELIGION MADE BY MEN.
. GOD ASKS FOR OBEDIANCE TO HIS LAW - NOT MAN'S LAW - THE 'WHOOS' GOT IT WRONG.
. YES, THE CHOSEN ONES PAID THE PRICE FOR NOT FOLLOWING GOD's LAW. IN 70 A.D.THEY AND JERUSALEM WERE ANNILATED.
. JOHN SMITH'S SPACE ALIENS ARE DEMONIC FALLEN ANGELS WHO USE ANGELIC POWERS OF INCARNATION TO MISLEAD. CATHOLIC'S WORSHIP
OF MOTHER MARY IS ALSO DEMONIC FORE SHE REPRESENTS SATAN. TODAY'S 'CHRISTIANITY' IS BASED ON LUCIFERIAN PAGANISM. ALL ARE SATANIC.
. THE FIGHT HERE ON EARTH IS REALLY VERY SIMPLE - IT'S...
. GOD'S SEED vs SATAN's SEED.
. SO, WHOSE SIDE ARE YOU ON???
.