Autonomous Bougainville President Ishmael Toroama address, Bougainville lae community during 19th Anniversary for Bougainville Foundation Day on 17th June 2024.
Now, finally we see a real leader who knows of what he is doing. He had no notes. He is a natural leader. Some of our MPs can use this as an example for their own situations. Imagine if all of our MPs had his level of focus on the agendas they represent. He clearly understands the topic from the top of his head. Great speech, Mr. President.
Great speech indeed Mr. President. Fully supported from Solomon Islands your closest Brother.❤Bougainvileans. Way to go!!! Let the Devine Peace of God be with you all, as you fight for your Freedom, GOD BLESS❤❤❤❤❤
Self Determination is the way to go for a new PNG if we want to stay united as one PNG. When people feel neglected, that's where thoughts of breakaway sets in.
Going the right direction President Toroama. It takes real man to lead a nation into uncharted waters. You will be remembered by your people in the years to come when Bougainville becomes a State. Support em stap.
Honorable President, do not look to the right or to the left. Focus on your dreams and aspirations and move forward. Shortfalls will come and they are bound to happen BUT THEY ARE ALL TEMPORARY. Bai yumi feelim pain nau tasol but tomorrow bai yumi orait. Manam islanders in the Madang Province are at your backing as you are carrying our tambu and father, grandfather Francis Ona's vision for Bougainville to be independent. Planti ol Manam Islanders sanap wantaim tambu blo ol Honorable Francis Ona na fight na kapsaitim blut na dai long Bougainville. Remember, no pain no gain. Supporting you my President.
Very eloquent speech from President Toroama. PNG has a lot to gain if we allow Bougainville to have their independence. We should be thinking outside the box when dealing with AROB. Most of the arguments against ratifying the referendum is purely based on negatives that may, or may not happen. There is potential for substantial gain for PNG if AROB becomes independent. It would be interesting to see how the PNG Government deal with AROB's desire for self-determination.
There was no referendum to authorize the PNG Constitution therefore the PNG Constitution is in valid and that means that the PNG State is legally invalid. Bougainville has a referendum for independence. They will also need a referendum to validate their constitution or it will also be legally invalid. If Bougainville wants independence all they have to do is go to the PNG Supreme Court and ask the PNG Government to prove in court when the People of Bougainville ever gave their free, prior and informed consent to be ruled over by the PNG Constitution. When the PNG Government fails to provide evidence of that consent than Bougainville will automatically be free. This is such a simple solution to the problem. Bougainville never had to go to war. That was a mistake. All Bougainville ever needed to do was simply go to court with the PNG Government as I have just explained and they would have gotten their freedom a long time ago. This is true of all the Tribes in PNG. No Tribe ever gave its consent to be governed by the PNG Constitution. This is a human rights violation. The PNG Government was created without a referendum therefore it is illegal. The PNG Constitution is egregious to human rights and so the United Nations should have never recognized the Independent State of Papua New Guinea because its formation violated the U.N. Universal Charter on Human Rights. Somare and the other founding fathers of PNG didn't know what they were doing so they failed to create the State properly. I told Somare this to his face. The solution has always been there but you have to understand the law to be able to see it.
The government did ask the people of Bougainville to decide if they want independence and that's what they desired for and government have honored them.
As a Moribean the current direction the AROB leaders are riding on now is because the PNG government sent in the army and what happened made all forms of dialogue to a redirection almost impossible. This should never happen again!
I support for Bougainville Independence but not at this time. This time the Autonomous Bougainville Government must work really hard to build the economy in preparation for independence. They must not inherit the corrupt practices of Papua New Guinea in their public service mechanism. The leaders must be zero tolerance of corruption. Then they are prepared for independence 🙏
Some honest opinion here. The consultation phase with the JSB is still being prolonged. The subject of Independence for Bougainville is now a much, much bigger issue than it would have been back 10 to 15 years ago. With Bougainville not having any institutional infrastructures already in place, it makes it a difficult proposition for the consideration of early Independence right now. There is that, and there is also the geo-political climate engulfing the Pacific region right now. If Bougainville were to get Independence now, it would create a huge geo-political security issue within the region. Recall what happened in Iraq after Sadam was taken down? When the US pulled out, IRAQ basically fell apart, and became a playground of sorts. China is just patiently waiting on the doorsteps to Bougainville, and knowing that, with Australia, NZ and the US closely watching, they would not allow for Bougainville to gain Independence as yet, until there is some Institutional control established and enforced within the region of Bougainville. Then maybe, there just might be some leeway for Independence. But who am I to say all these. Just my opinion!
From youth boy to simple fighter boy to captain to commander , provincial leader now PRESIDENT of AROB........... you yet you fighter in the name of Independence.. SUPPORT STAP NA WANBEL PRESIDENT
Whilst I support the idea of an independent Bougainville, the leadership of Bougainville now or before, are never charismatic enough, they're finding it hard to instil confidence and inspire the people of Bougainville, to mount support and prepare themselves..The president just said, "Bougainvillians mut feel inspired " by what the current leadership and the referendum have done to bring about independence for Bougainville. It looks like the result of the referendum should inspire the people of Bougainville, but has it? Talking about bacis government institutions of state, like a police force, CIS and even army, court systems, a central bank of Bougainville, immigration and boarder security services, and the list goes on, does Bougainville have all these important institutions of state and governance in place now?..how will Bougainville deal with these when they get independence and png pulls out with all these essentials?..Bougainville leadership and the people of Bougainville should ask for "self government ", now, and maybe 10-20years time when all these institutions of state are established and functioning, then, they can gain their independence..why the rush now?..get independence now and come cry to png for help in the essentials areas mentioned?..no one is stopping Bougainville from getting their independence, but are they able to stand on their own, economically, socially, politically and all else?..I believe there lies the answer to the reasons why Bougainville people are not inspired by the referendum result or the leadership speeches..God bless you all
Bougainville is just following the footsteps PNG did when attained it's independence in 1975. All questions you are asking contradicts what PNG went through when it got independence. PNG worked to achieve the concerns for independence as it went along. Thus Bougainville is just following PNGs footsteps.
True. Bougainville currently needs K800m annually to run its institutions, development programs, etc, but it can only raise or collect K50m internally.
Now, finally we see a real leader who knows of what he is doing. He had no notes. He is a natural leader. Some of our MPs can use this as an example for their own situations. Imagine if all of our MPs had his level of focus on the agendas they represent. He clearly understands the topic from the top of his head. Great speech, Mr. President.
President Toroama, I fully support you and your people of Bougainville to gain Independence.
Great speech indeed Mr. President. Fully supported from Solomon Islands your closest Brother.❤Bougainvileans. Way to go!!! Let the Devine Peace of God be with you all, as you fight for your Freedom, GOD BLESS❤❤❤❤❤
Self Determination is the way to go for a new PNG if we want to stay united as one PNG. When people feel neglected, that's where thoughts of breakaway sets in.
You have my full support Mr. President. Self determination is the only way forward for Bouganville.. ❤🙏🙏🙏🙏
Going the right direction President Toroama. It takes real man to lead a nation into uncharted waters. You will be remembered by your people in the years to come when Bougainville becomes a State. Support em stap.
I strongly support you for your independence,may good Lord guide you through.
Stret to point! No beat around the bush...." We wil move!!!...patriotric wantok true na..a visionary leader. Respect President Toroama..
Honorable President, do not look to the right or to the left. Focus on your dreams and aspirations and move forward. Shortfalls will come and they are bound to happen BUT THEY ARE ALL TEMPORARY. Bai yumi feelim pain nau tasol but tomorrow bai yumi orait.
Manam islanders in the Madang Province are at your backing as you are carrying our tambu and father, grandfather Francis Ona's vision for Bougainville to be independent. Planti ol Manam Islanders sanap wantaim tambu blo ol Honorable Francis Ona na fight na kapsaitim blut na dai long Bougainville.
Remember, no pain no gain.
Supporting you my President.
Thank you Honourable President Toroama go forward 🙏 yumi stap 🌈
Great leader and you have delivered your people. Keep progressing your agenda.
Fully supported..
A man with a golden heart to serve Bougainville! Full of wisdom ❤❤
We are Melanesian family, much respect Mr president. Free bougainvillea.. deserve independence.
There's no turning back regardless of what some Papua New Guinean politicians might think.
Yes! Yes! Yes! Independence for Bougainville.
Full support Hon President. Do not be deterred by current issues but look ahead on the future of Bougainville
Full Support , We deserve Independence!!
200% agree with you Mr President...
❤❤❤❤fully supporting your decision
He is a true leader. He possess the traits of an iconic leader for the people of Bougainvillea.
Full support Mr President💪🏿🇧🇿💯.
Amen❤ you have my utmost respect Mr President
Agree Mr.President🙏
Fully support your quest for independence.
Keep threding through my President Toroama,l stand with you
President Toroama go forward I fully support your people Independence 🙏
GIVE THEM THE FREEDOM THEY SO DESERVE. DON'T LISTEN TO THE POLLIES FROM PNG. I'VE BEEN TO YOUR ISLAND. FULL SUPPORT ❤
Very eloquent speech from President Toroama.
PNG has a lot to gain if we allow Bougainville to have their independence. We should be thinking outside the box when dealing with AROB. Most of the arguments against ratifying the referendum is purely based on negatives that may, or may not happen.
There is potential for substantial gain for PNG if AROB becomes independent.
It would be interesting to see how the PNG Government deal with AROB's desire for self-determination.
Good to hear the hearts of the Bougainvilleans.
Powerful speech
I see there's no need for negotiation. Just give Bougainville independence.
Keep threading through President Toroama.
Welcome to Morobe Sir
President we are with you all the way….👍🤝
Amen President Amen❤
The Bougainville people have spoken through the referendum give them what they asked for.
There was no referendum to authorize the PNG Constitution therefore the PNG Constitution is in valid and that means that the PNG State is legally invalid. Bougainville has a referendum for independence. They will also need a referendum to validate their constitution or it will also be legally invalid. If Bougainville wants independence all they have to do is go to the PNG Supreme Court and ask the PNG Government to prove in court when the People of Bougainville ever gave their free, prior and informed consent to be ruled over by the PNG Constitution. When the PNG Government fails to provide evidence of that consent than Bougainville will automatically be free.
This is such a simple solution to the problem. Bougainville never had to go to war. That was a mistake. All Bougainville ever needed to do was simply go to court with the PNG Government as I have just explained and they would have gotten their freedom a long time ago.
This is true of all the Tribes in PNG. No Tribe ever gave its consent to be governed by the PNG Constitution. This is a human rights violation. The PNG Government was created without a referendum therefore it is illegal. The PNG Constitution is egregious to human rights and so the United Nations should have never recognized the Independent State of Papua New Guinea because its formation violated the U.N. Universal Charter on Human Rights.
Somare and the other founding fathers of PNG didn't know what they were doing so they failed to create the State properly. I told Somare this to his face.
The solution has always been there but you have to understand the law to be able to see it.
Did the CPC contemplate such agenda, when framing the PNG Constitution in 1973.
You deserve to be independent
The government did ask the people of Bougainville to decide if they want independence and that's what they desired for and government have honored them.
excellent speech.
As a Moribean the current direction the AROB leaders are riding on now is because the PNG government sent in the army and what happened made all forms of dialogue to a redirection almost impossible. This should never happen again!
Respect Mr. President
I support you to have Independent
Give them independence after all bcl contributed so much building png so it's time to go 100%
Wooden made Leader! Strongpla man
I support for Bougainville Independence but not at this time. This time the Autonomous Bougainville Government must work really hard to build the economy in preparation for independence. They must not inherit the corrupt practices of Papua New Guinea in their public service mechanism. The leaders must be zero tolerance of corruption. Then they are prepared for independence 🙏
❤❤
Some honest opinion here. The consultation phase with the JSB is still being prolonged. The subject of Independence for Bougainville is now a much, much bigger issue than it would have been back 10 to 15 years ago. With Bougainville not having any institutional infrastructures already in place, it makes it a difficult proposition for the consideration of early Independence right now. There is that, and there is also the geo-political climate engulfing the Pacific region right now. If Bougainville were to get Independence now, it would create a huge geo-political security issue within the region. Recall what happened in Iraq after Sadam was taken down? When the US pulled out, IRAQ basically fell apart, and became a playground of sorts. China is just patiently waiting on the doorsteps to Bougainville, and knowing that, with Australia, NZ and the US closely watching, they would not allow for Bougainville to gain Independence as yet, until there is some Institutional control established and enforced within the region of Bougainville. Then maybe, there just might be some leeway for Independence. But who am I to say all these. Just my opinion!
From youth boy to simple fighter boy to captain to commander , provincial leader now PRESIDENT of AROB........... you yet you fighter in the name of Independence.. SUPPORT STAP NA WANBEL PRESIDENT
Follow the referendum
PROTOCOL DRESSING IN SUCH BIG EVENTS IS IMPORTANT...
When did he visit Lae and did this speech?
Whilst I support the idea of an independent Bougainville, the leadership of Bougainville now or before, are never charismatic enough, they're finding it hard to instil confidence and inspire the people of Bougainville, to mount support and prepare themselves..The president just said, "Bougainvillians mut feel inspired " by what the current leadership and the referendum have done to bring about independence for Bougainville. It looks like the result of the referendum should inspire the people of Bougainville, but has it? Talking about bacis government institutions of state, like a police force, CIS and even army, court systems, a central bank of Bougainville, immigration and boarder security services, and the list goes on, does Bougainville have all these important institutions of state and governance in place now?..how will Bougainville deal with these when they get independence and png pulls out with all these essentials?..Bougainville leadership and the people of Bougainville should ask for "self government ", now, and maybe 10-20years time when all these institutions of state are established and functioning, then, they can gain their independence..why the rush now?..get independence now and come cry to png for help in the essentials areas mentioned?..no one is stopping Bougainville from getting their independence, but are they able to stand on their own, economically, socially, politically and all else?..I believe there lies the answer to the reasons why Bougainville people are not inspired by the referendum result or the leadership speeches..God bless you all
True
That is 💯 percent correct
Bougainville is just following the footsteps PNG did when attained it's independence in 1975. All questions you are asking contradicts what PNG went through when it got independence.
PNG worked to achieve the concerns for independence as it went along. Thus Bougainville is just following PNGs footsteps.
True. Bougainville currently needs K800m annually to run its institutions, development programs, etc, but it can only raise or collect K50m internally.
The world is changing fast how can we catch up with it. Bougainvilleans watch out of track and affect Papua New Guineans too.
Give them independence state of Papua New Guinea
Trupla Lida blo AGB