The Weird Way Arsenal Have To Play Without Martin Odegaard

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  • @akech24
    @akech24 หลายเดือนก่อน +189

    people dont understand that theyre gonna be forced to evolve tactically after losing odegaard. still finding footing but they look solid

    • @ShawnGitahi
      @ShawnGitahi หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Vs Atlanta🤣🤣🤣inter thrashed them 4-0

    • @oakleygolden-pursey6636
      @oakleygolden-pursey6636 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      ​@@ShawnGitahi?? Atalanta is a very good side, no team that wins the Europa League the previous season is a bad team.

    • @firstlane7695
      @firstlane7695 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      ​@@ShawnGitahiAnd Atalanta Thrashed Liverpool. Liverpool drew city twice . Football doesn't work that way

    • @outlawruffryder
      @outlawruffryder หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@firstlane7695thats Not the Same Atalanta... Since then a lot of Key Players were sold

    • @outlawruffryder
      @outlawruffryder หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No tactics FC... And ive Seen odegaard getting bullied in the midfield doing absolutely bothing in big games

  • @grantdixon230
    @grantdixon230 หลายเดือนก่อน +148

    Seeing how good Calafiori is at interceptions , driving forward with the ball, finding space and passing. I wonder if he could be utilised to compensate in some way for Odegarrd's absence.

    • @zainarif1654
      @zainarif1654 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      Powering through a press or running from defense into midfield is much more different than receiving the ball in between the lines and in n half spaces and turning and driving with the ball.

    • @HappyBob701
      @HappyBob701 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's in a farmers league dumb dumb

    • @ezigwe
      @ezigwe หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​. Outcome the same, progression of ball through the middle

    • @aokaparagit
      @aokaparagit หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Zincheko will play the Odegaard role when he his back.

    • @grantdixon230
      @grantdixon230 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@zainarif1654 Why not actually read my comment before knocking it down? I said, "I wonder........compensate in some way". My rationale being that in our last two games without the skipper, we have had little, if any control,, and had to resort to lobbing long balls. On top of which Partey has been awful, too slow in moving the ball, lost his trademark passing accuracy. Been a liability. Calafiori has some experience of playing defensive midfield, and is known for driving the full length of the field. He would offer a lot more than Partey has been doing, and provide a presence that none of the rest of the squad offers. The only player with qualities similar to Odergarrd is Nwanieri. But Mikel is clearly reluctant to play him more than a few minutes so far. Calafiori has the ability to give us some forward thrust, which is sorely lacking in the absence of Odegarrd.

  • @jsbach6529
    @jsbach6529 หลายเดือนก่อน +138

    I always tell people I'm better than I look

    • @Aarya-v5n
      @Aarya-v5n หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Was going to write this exact thing looking at the title.
      Arsenal are a fantastic team, Arteta is a very good coach but so many other clubs like PSG, Inter, Leverkusen etc. exist and it would make for a much more exciting content to be understanding their setups.
      This feels and sounds less like a tactical video, and more of a justification of anything Arsenal do is great. Just my opinion.

    • @kunimitsune177
      @kunimitsune177 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Aarya-v5n
      Your opinion is shit.

    • @ultramage1
      @ultramage1 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Aarya-v5n Essentially yeah, more like a justification of the packing the bus tactics, no need to be ashamed of what it is , everything is "tactics" these days

    • @omother6950
      @omother6950 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But tbf making arsenal content for a tactical analysis channel makes sense, city arsenal etc these Spanish manager led clubs are very tactically disciplined much more so than the European clubs that more rely on individual brilliance

    • @ultramage1
      @ultramage1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@omother6950 true, but i think a lot of it is also a bit of a premier league bias, there are so many tactically astute managers in Europe all playing differently. inter held City to a tie and did what Arsenal did but in their league, they play differently, Leverkusen, Bayern, and even French league teams like Monaco all play slightly differently tactically but don't get covered as much.

  • @simeonlow
    @simeonlow หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    Poetry requested:
    Arsenal wear red
    City wear blue
    No Martin Odegaard
    Means we’re in the poo.
    Good video, fair assessment and I agree we were one decent finish away from a big win against a side that battered LFC and Leverkusen. It’s what we did at City last year, if Trossard had seen the ball to Martinelli with about 10 mins left he’d have had the chance to win it for us. I don’t hold out much hope of a win at the Etihad but I just don’t want the game swung on some nonsense onfield officiating or ridiculous VAR call. Love how fans of other teams hate when you talk about how good our manager is.😂

    • @stephenkrus
      @stephenkrus หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You guys are not shit but...
      Subpar is the word. With Havertz as make shift no. 8-ish... you'll guys will survive. I don't know about thriving though.
      Well next transfers... you guys need a rotation midfielder on the right side. 🤔

    • @harrydavies6184
      @harrydavies6184 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Arteta really is a tactical G. The spurs game showed this but pundits on sky and talksport dont see it or just wont admit it coz of there spurs connections. Hoping he pulls it out on Sunday!

    • @betteremotional
      @betteremotional หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@stephenkrus given that they scored the most in the league in their over 100 years history, seems someone might need to reopen a dictionary

  • @cdchai
    @cdchai หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I honestly think Zinchenko would be in Odegaard's role if he wasn't injured. With Vierra gone, it's either him or Gabriel that would have subbed for Odegaard in a game. We wouldn't have to worry about Zinchenko's defensive shortcomings in that right-8 position as much and he could still play a killer ball.

    • @TheKingSkillsBW67
      @TheKingSkillsBW67 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Absolutely agree with you! You sure understand the profiles Arteta depends on and their uniqueness to our system. He’s the best option for us in that role.

    • @pgikiru
      @pgikiru หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I believe this too. Zinchenko's injury was so untimely.

    • @Growlizing
      @Growlizing หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      While Zinchenko is a great passer, and could likely fill that role at progressing the ball by passing, I dont see him leading and organizing the press the Odegaard does. But I guess Havertz and Jesus fill that purpose almost as well too

    • @anthonymuhoho5037
      @anthonymuhoho5037 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is somewhat true, but we need more midfield technicians, I thought we should've gone for Fabian ruiz. I'm all for large athletic aggressive players but we also need midfield technicians like Ruiz and an odegaard alternative, maybe arteta doesn't want to stunt nwaneri's development but he needs to start playing.

    • @cdchai
      @cdchai หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@anthonymuhoho5037 So who in the current squad do you see as Odegaard's sub assuming everyone is healthy?

  • @harveyphilip6175
    @harveyphilip6175 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sensational video man! Scored another fantastic goal from set piece against city but just couldn't get the win. But the way they defend set pieces are also commendable and Raya plays a huge role.

  • @letlotlotreasurerakumakoe6019
    @letlotlotreasurerakumakoe6019 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I learn a lot of " how to look/watch at the game. Thank you Adam.

  • @andyalvarez1915
    @andyalvarez1915 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I'd argue that even with Odegaard in the team, a strong striker would do Arsenal a world of good. Having someone in the mold of Isak/Gyokeres/Osimhen up top and a midfield of Rice, Odegaard, Havertz would significantly improve them.

    • @Fabio.Himan.Nugraha
      @Fabio.Himan.Nugraha หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Havertz is shit on midfield. better be up front, winning long ball. but he certainly need to up his finishing in the box.

    • @TheKingSkillsBW67
      @TheKingSkillsBW67 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Arsenal don’t need a striker! But it’s understandable why people ask for one. Thats because they understand OTHER teams more than they do Arsenal.
      Arterta prioritizes scoring with his wingers (the wingers are our goalscorers) and they have so far been able to deliver.
      City don’t have a better 1st team than Arsenal. It’s their deep quality bench that they won the league with.
      Their rotation means they never drop performances because of a deep bench. While Arsenal drop performances markedly when our key players start to get tired towards the end. That’s where and when City pass. Has nothing to do with goals! Why does City have the same Goal Difference (62) with Arteta’s Arsenal last season. Where did we score the goals from and who then can claim City score better than us? 🤷🏽‍♂️
      If we tried to have the same deep quality bench like City, we’d break FFP and PSR. So we’ll add these players gradually until we have the right bench.

    • @bizarresportynerd6136
      @bizarresportynerd6136 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We don’t need a world class striker specifically, we just need another world class forward/attacking player.
      A game changer.

    • @jamesyunana7059
      @jamesyunana7059 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can they drop In the midfield like Havertz

    • @jamesyunana7059
      @jamesyunana7059 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Isak plays too close to a winger, skilled but not enough to play back behind the post
      Oshimen: Too much of an actual 9, good for press, but can't play well in d midfield if need be. Something Halaand has had to improve since coming to Man city.
      Gyokeres: don't know much

  • @VRed224
    @VRed224 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great analysis, Clery. Well done.
    Odegaard is irreplaceable in Arsenal's current system. The only viable solution seems to be altering the formation and style of play, which Arteta has been handling quite well. However, such adjustments could come at a cost. That's why I was surprised to see Vieira go out on loan and Smith Rowe sold, as they were our closest alternatives to Odegaard.
    Our remaining, albeit risky, options include:
    - Playing Nathan Nwaneri in Odegaard’s role.
    - Deploying Jorginho, Partey, and Rice together in midfield.
    - Shifting to a 4-4-2 diamond formation, with Partey or Jorginho as 4, Rice and Jesus in the middle and Kai as the midfielder at the front. The remaining two will be two of Trossard, Saka and Martinelli. Kai is very good at gaining aerial duels. We need him at the middle upfront now than ever.

    • @Growlizing
      @Growlizing หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Odegaard is the player arsenal needs to get those 90+ point seasons. He gives the team so much control in posession while also always progressing the play forward. Arsenal without odegaard is a fine definsive machinery, but it will be prone to creating too few chances to secure those 90+ point seasons

  • @kigenkzadock8643
    @kigenkzadock8643 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I like the fact you talked about why Arsenal didnt go for a striker

  • @APoxOnNordStream
    @APoxOnNordStream หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Even though I rejoice in the fact that Arsenal have learned how to defend properly again under Arteta, I think the really remarkable thing about the Atalanta game was how it made Saed Kolasinac look like a good player, when I think about how poor he was in his latter days at Arsenal. Good as Odegaard is, the manager really should be able to find a way to get the team on the ball even when he's not in the team. I'm sure he will.. well yeah he will, maybe after the City game.

    • @TheKh65
      @TheKh65 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What did Saed do in the match?

    • @josephkambourakis
      @josephkambourakis หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheKh65 his team kept a clean sheet, that's all you can ask of a defender

    • @TheKh65
      @TheKh65 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@josephkambourakis exactly, so I don't get why he is getting a special shout out

    • @APoxOnNordStream
      @APoxOnNordStream หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheKh65 get on the ball?

    • @TheKh65
      @TheKh65 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@APoxOnNordStream and do what? How many passes into the final 3rd did he contribute? Also, just because he was bad at Arsenal doesn't make him a bad player

  • @saurabhahlawat425
    @saurabhahlawat425 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    I think Calafiori is that un-pressable 2nd guy who can play in pockets (after Odegaard). He did more for our buildup in 20 minutes than Timber did in 70. Nothing against Timber , I love his versatility but his best position is RB (allows him to properly overlap) and White should be rested because he's looked mediocre in the last 2 games after the international break.
    Hopefully we see a Timber-Saliba-Gabriel-Calafiori partnership sometime soon.

    • @hayet5854
      @hayet5854 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Was hoping for that against Atalanta. He definitely not doing that against city thi

    • @joehouston2833
      @joehouston2833 หลายเดือนก่อน

      California did f all..

    • @saurabhahlawat425
      @saurabhahlawat425 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@joehouston2833 Calafiori was better than Timber and we are a margins team. Any marginal improvement is important.

    • @joehouston2833
      @joehouston2833 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@saurabhahlawat425
      What did he do????

    • @saurabhahlawat425
      @saurabhahlawat425 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@joehouston2833 I mentioned above. Build up play. Taking a few risks. That enabled us to step out. Timber was not doing any of that. All he did was take the safe back pass. He was very lethargic , can't blame him too much after the NLD shift.

  • @heritagetutorials3262
    @heritagetutorials3262 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    you are one of the finest analyst have seen , keep it up man !!!

  • @aussie_t576
    @aussie_t576 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    All I’ll say is that if we are still in and around the title come November, it’s going to be a massive boost mentally when he’s back.

  • @Arazorblade
    @Arazorblade หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Odegard has been so injury resistant and has played almost all the games at Arsenal since his arrival . We have taken His availability and his ever presence as granted. His performance never dropped like Saka in second half last year even though he played same number of games. Never stops running, leads our press, makes threading passes, is the engine of the team who leads at pitch by example. Now that he is injured , our offence has fallen through the cliff . Our defence is keeping us alive and set pieces and corners are our only hope in big games.

    • @motherbear5997
      @motherbear5997 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The irony he got injured playing for the national team

    • @anthonymuhoho5037
      @anthonymuhoho5037 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I never took Ø for granted, for the past year I've been posting that arteta should bring a player that does something similar to what Ø does. Even barring an injury, he'd be invaluable for squad rotation to keep ode fresh. I also really wanted us to get Fabian Ruiz in place of merino. I'm all for large athletic players like declan but we also need a wealth of midfield technicians so that one vital player's injury doesn't completely change our gameplay.

  • @karlyoung6289
    @karlyoung6289 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks, Adam, for another great explanation of why Odegaard is so vital to the style of football Arsenal play.

  • @paulkaye6092
    @paulkaye6092 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you, Adam. Always such a pleasure to watch your analysis.

  • @hrlum9862
    @hrlum9862 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Since odegaard is out, i feel calafiori's ability to turn and drive with the ball would be very profitable. There was a moment against Atalanta where he was able to beat 2 defenders in the left half space using good body movement

    • @VRed224
      @VRed224 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hrlum9862 He did a superb job against Man City at Etihad and in other games too. But when we need to play a low block during a period in a match, no one will drive anything during that period 😂

    • @novianovioTV
      @novianovioTV หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah, he just looks like a defender on a mad run

  • @ismshai4719
    @ismshai4719 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant analysis as usual. Thanks mate. Keep em coming.

  • @Thats_quite_cool
    @Thats_quite_cool หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I was at this game, while it was an interesting game and were incredibly defensively solid it is clear that ø is our most important player

    • @novianovioTV
      @novianovioTV หลายเดือนก่อน

      I like the way you just used the letter ø
      It’s like he’s known by a symbol, like the Saint

  • @Oliver_Evans9
    @Oliver_Evans9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    **Manifesting a 442 Gravenberch video**

  • @groo_soob
    @groo_soob หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Always interesting content from the internet's best John Richardson impersonator

  • @WillGunn15
    @WillGunn15 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s fun to watch defensive greatness as well.

  • @youngja13
    @youngja13 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this video was top notch. Nice job!!

  • @toxik420
    @toxik420 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Would playing Zinchenko as replacement for Odegaard work ? He is very good on the ball going forward and would help in organizing the press too

    • @jbogle531
      @jbogle531 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Never understood why this tactic isn't practiced. Most of them have skills and ability to play in other positions, but managers keep them in regular obvious roles. I think Zin would be excellent as a midfielder, but maybe it's down to the individual's preference.

    • @HappyBob701
      @HappyBob701 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Smith-Rowe was the player to do it but you clowns sold him

    • @Grandmaster_Dragonborn
      @Grandmaster_Dragonborn หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@HappyBob701 We love Smith Rowe, but logically it was the right decision. He has too much competition at Arsenal and he was constantly injured. Fulham takes a lot of that off his shoulders and will allow him to shine.

    • @toxik420
      @toxik420 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@HappyBob701 yeah and alexis sanchez would have been great on our left wing, why did we have to sell him ??? 🙄🙄🙄 I live in the present buddy

    • @papashiraz7456
      @papashiraz7456 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hes injured also

  • @wasimprasad
    @wasimprasad หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Double pivot of rice and jorginho. Martinelli on right wing, saka at advanced 10 and trossard on the left. Sakas balls into feet are quite good, doesnt ever lose the ball, perfect for 10 and also gets him more shots from central areas. Martinelli moving to right means gvardiol is kept in check.

  • @Eversogladucame
    @Eversogladucame หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Arteta needs to give Nwaneri a run of starts. Just such a tough schedule of games to do it in. I get the sense that Arteta is worried about destroying the kid's confidence if the games don't go our way

    • @omother6950
      @omother6950 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      He’s an inexperienced kid man don’t buy into these Twitter trolls, nwaneri can’t be thrown into the deep end against city at the etihad, or spurs away. There’s many more factors than just playing football, has he dealt with pressure? The atmosphere? All these things can play into your mind in a match. Too much for a 17 year old. Mikel didn’t start him because he knows, trust me nothing will destroy the confidence of a kid faster than when he has a bad game

    • @iyibu01
      @iyibu01 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nwnari should play even for 20 minutes. This is the opportunity to push him through. Age is no issue if indeed he is a good player as they all say, arteta included

  • @14wilshere
    @14wilshere หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The singing we needed during the summer and didn;t make was a backup to odegaard.

    • @010101110100
      @010101110100 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Who could it be

    • @syedasadhaider4677
      @syedasadhaider4677 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no one is that good. I can literally only think of musiala who plays like that. U think we get musiala?

  • @Combatwombat-sn7ng
    @Combatwombat-sn7ng หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They have to give Nwaneri more of an opportunity in these few months without Odegaard. Obviously it isn't realistic to expect him to be consistently starting, but if they can give him minutes and help him develop now then they could have a closer backup for Odegaard than any of the other players in the squad

  • @whatevername8551
    @whatevername8551 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Clery-esque. I love it

  • @hmules130
    @hmules130 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tell me if I’m an idiot. We should start Calafiori at LB, Timber should replace Partey (who’s looked lost) in the midfield, Rice and califiori both driving with from the left hand side of the pitch against Rico Lewis with Martinelli in behind could be absolutely devastating.

    • @user-ue9po2jh9f
      @user-ue9po2jh9f หลายเดือนก่อน

      This might be the play

  • @RickySchreuder
    @RickySchreuder หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anyone who feels the need to crit or crap on a team manager or player should do so after Clery has analyzed them. Good job man u made me a fan 4 life ps COYG

  • @gtramsay
    @gtramsay หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Becoming so dependent on Odegaard's brilliance is a major weakness for Arsenal; not managing to cultivate, or keep, anyone who could be at least a short-term deputy for him has been an even greater one. Letting Smith Rowe and Viera go this summer was a disaster. I think Saka has the skills and game intelligence to maybe grow into a more Odegaard-like role - but, oh wait, they let Reiss Nelson go as well, so they have no cover on the right-wing either. Arsenal had a perilously thin squad last year, and it's even weaker now.

    • @USER06584B
      @USER06584B หลายเดือนก่อน

      were barca dependent on messi? is city dependent on haaland?

    • @sheikhahmadtijangaye289
      @sheikhahmadtijangaye289 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂 Barca had busqeut, xavi & inesta.. for man city Haaland is a tap in merchant use a better example.. with likes of rodri, kdb.. city without rodri drops same with kdb

    • @gtramsay
      @gtramsay หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sheikhahmadtijangaye289 Very true.

    • @omother6950
      @omother6950 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sheikhahmadtijangaye289barca we’re very dependant on Messi. The whole system was built around him, trust me. He was a freak of nature that was rarely injured

  • @Peeeg
    @Peeeg หลายเดือนก่อน

    i find it very heartening that we are playing this way. it will serve us well in the future that we have been forced to evolve a viable plan B. I think we are injury proof now in a way that we were not a year and two years ago

  • @Awolowooo
    @Awolowooo หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Arsenal need to evolve without Odegaard, if we cannot do without him and win games, we are not ready to be a complete XI, city without KDB do suffer sometimes but they still win regardless. we cannot afford to be a one man team and besides odegaard isn't messi esque tbh.

    • @omother6950
      @omother6950 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ur correct. But arsenal still are very solid and haven’t lost without odegaard. Also take into account we are having a very hard string of games Atalanta are literally European champions, spurs away was very tough too, and now we go to city. Probably the hardest string of games we will have all season already in September

    • @aswinasok8572
      @aswinasok8572 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Odegaard Merino and Zinchenko all injured at the same time who are midfield options

  • @tanky__boi3
    @tanky__boi3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Arsenal fan here, I’m nervous for the match against city, but if we play the same way we did in the NLD I think we’ll be fine.

  • @thearsenalmisfit2414
    @thearsenalmisfit2414 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Odegaard is one of those few players that has an impact both offencively and defensively. He is our most creative player with his passing .he can cut our opponents apart at any time.
    Defencively, he is the leader of our high press. You can see that we we are defending further back than when Odegaard is in the lineup. This will and is bring more pressure on our defenders and our CDM Partey, who right now is a shadow of his former self.
    This next 8 weeks or more is going to be the acid test for Arteta. It is up to him to change our tactics to something that the payers we have can use to win games.
    For me, right now, the biggest concern is the CDM position. Partey and Jorginho are just too old to give us what we need. That was our biggest need for the summer window , not a striker. We have nothing if these 2 fail. We lost the midfield battle to many times this season already.
    I really fear what will happen against City on Sunday. Yes, they might have list KDB, but they have Foden to fill in . Who do we have to replace Odegaard, no one.
    Our summer window was a bust as we got rid of more p l ayers than we brought in again, leaving us with a too small of a squad again.

  • @ezigwe
    @ezigwe หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another brilliant analysis 😊

  • @LoveHitch78
    @LoveHitch78 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We should of kept ESR for when Odegaard is out...

  • @apk4515
    @apk4515 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One thing worth noticing is that the majority of Rice and Havertz’ passes in the back 5:12 are going toward Gabriel and Timber. Only one or two balls toward Saliba and the right side where we are noticeably more potent. Also no progressive passes to the left wing from Rice or Havertz like you see on the right to Saka. Definitely forces by Atalanta.

  • @barriewhipp4030
    @barriewhipp4030 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Playing Ø and Saka to death, even in dead rubbers means that no backup is ready to step in. ESR was the natural backup (and backup it was) , but couldn't get half an hour even when many goals up. Zinchenko is the next in line atm

  • @aokaparagit
    @aokaparagit หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    What is most unfortunate is Zincheko's injured too. If he can get back on time, he'll play the Odegaard role. People keep on forgetting Zinny

  • @juancarlosgallegos3902
    @juancarlosgallegos3902 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I suspect Arteta wanted us to play like this again to practice for Man City.

  • @DuckSwagington
    @DuckSwagington หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'll happily watch Arteta replicate the most disgusting, shithouse, Euros Southgate Terrorball known to mankind if it meant a 0-0 draw. We're fucked without Odegaard.

  • @jimmyjoejoeshabadoo6654
    @jimmyjoejoeshabadoo6654 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think Calafiori should get a shot at defensive mid for City, replacing Thomas Partey. Partey previously had the ability to move the ball up field combined with some neat technical skills to get away from his marker but those days look far gone for him. Calafiori looks to have a similar skillset and could offer us a more reliable option.

  • @ulfanfinneriksen4643
    @ulfanfinneriksen4643 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We need to play the ball more direct from defense to the front three now.

  • @samthrupp1729
    @samthrupp1729 หลายเดือนก่อน

    trossard has looked incisive but i think there is a lack of confidence in the team to play forward passes through the middle as you suggested. The forward pass opportunity is missed, the ball gets recycled back to raya, the press(ure) has to be beaten again either through high risk out-the-back play or the low percentage long ball. I'm sure arteta is reminding them to "be brave" because that's what is required to pay high intensity incisive progressive passing as we saw from arsenal last season

  • @harrydavies6184
    @harrydavies6184 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    The way that Odegaars takes the ball in front of defenders, then with one touch hes broken the lines, is so underrated. I remember when people moaned when we signed him but within 1 season he showed why hes so integral to us. Hopefully we struggle through til hes back, nicking wins and then when hes back we ramp up and destroy teams!

  • @oviegrantdigbori9659
    @oviegrantdigbori9659 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Anything bad performances happen to Arsenal I am blaming Arteta and Edu for their ignorance not to add up properly to our Squad

  • @mlinder13655
    @mlinder13655 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The fact we sold ESR hurts that much more, we sold the one substitute for Martin, and you could almost smell this happening when we did…..

  • @saidurrahman977
    @saidurrahman977 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A major criticism of Arteta is how he doesn't rest players. Saka and Odegaard are being run into the ground. Its not a good argument to say they can't buy a player to sit on the bench. That bench player would be used more if Arteta rotated more.

  • @vansulli
    @vansulli หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We had Emile smith rowe. HAD 😢

  • @TubbysWorld4413
    @TubbysWorld4413 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the fact that people are mad we are not losing inspite of not having Odegard and the lack of a striker.

  • @DzT910
    @DzT910 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i know he’s not as great of a passer as odegaard, but i’d be interested to see jesus in that role. allowing havertz his free striker role and jesus breaking lines by taking players on instead of passing

  • @Fearlessphil100
    @Fearlessphil100 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Knew we should've gone all in for Gyokeres! While I respect there's still confidence in the squad, if a clinical chance taker had started that game instead of Martinelli (as much as I like him), we'd have won that game 2:0. I can only hope they learn enough from that to go hard and make it happen in the January window.

  • @denniswaweru9340
    @denniswaweru9340 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think Arsenal are suffering the most from that left hand side being so weak going forward. Trossard is a game changer but he hasnt been as consistent while starting games maybe coz of his stamina while Martinelli is just a shell of himself. We need consistent chance creators from both flanks because all we have now for that is Odegaard and Saka and the former is gone for a while. One thing that made us unpredictable in 22/23 was that both flanks were just as good as each other. If that left side was firing I dont think there would be much talk about Odegaard being missed

  • @ikeo58_Eve
    @ikeo58_Eve หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would move Saka in to the role, great close control and vision, put Sterling out wide for Man City. Something "Wild" but seen worse with him at Left back for England a few months back

  • @micheleduritto
    @micheleduritto หลายเดือนก่อน

    They played good tactically and especially defensively (as an italian i was actually surprised as i was wathcing the game, it is the first time in a long time i see a big team outside of Italy defend that good in unison ) but they did deserve to lose that game, even if not by a huge margin.

  • @jimlampshady
    @jimlampshady หลายเดือนก่อน

    I tend to agree. Perhaps the more specific question is - can Arteta make the adjustments to still win games without Odegaard before we drop too many points to stay in the title race?

  • @Kobble8
    @Kobble8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Trossard is going to that Odegaard role but on the left. The only problem is, they don’t have the same combinations on that left side of White Odegaard and Saka.

  • @jovsta
    @jovsta หลายเดือนก่อน

    We are progressing year on year in games vs City/Liverpool.... we will eventually win these encounters.

  • @moranDVS
    @moranDVS หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    oh odegaard
    it's awfully hard, to face this day alone.
    Your chirpy face
    We can't replace.
    Your blonde hair we miss today.
    As an arsenal fan I see no plan, I'm really quite bereft
    Merino's shoulder's another boulder that thwarts our half space left.
    Life is nice with Declan Rice and Kai is superfly
    But we contemplate our number 8,
    Our Captain and main guy.

  • @K53-x3l
    @K53-x3l หลายเดือนก่อน

    I believe this injury will benefit Arsenal more than people think....? I believe that Arsenal will play 4-2-3-1 formation with rice and party in the double privet and Martinelli in the 10 position and sterling on the left or vise-viser

  • @allenlopez9731
    @allenlopez9731 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cliche: Odegaard is the conductor of the Arsenal orchestra. And a real maestro!

    • @DuaneWest-o1y
      @DuaneWest-o1y หลายเดือนก่อน

      Which is why the bottlers have won nothing since the Real Madrid reject Missing "Won Nothing" Ghostagaard joined your small club 😅

  • @iyibu01
    @iyibu01 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nwnari should play even for 20 minutes. This is the opportunity to push him through. Age is no issue if indeed he is a good player as they all say, arteta included

  • @fortpyjamas
    @fortpyjamas หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Man I wish we'd gone in for Frenkie De Jong while the situation at Barcelona was still chaotic. It's starting to stabilize now and I doubt he'll want to leave just to play second fiddle. Though I have no idea of how he'd do in a high press, he definitely has that ability to take the ball in tight spaces and turn and move it forward.

    • @Never_Wr0ng
      @Never_Wr0ng หลายเดือนก่อน

      FDJ playing second fiddle to ?? Ødegaard ?? 😂
      He's twice the player Ødegaard is.

    • @TheKh65
      @TheKh65 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@Never_Wr0ng FDJ is a phenomenal player but what has he done in the last 2 seasons?

    • @Never_Wr0ng
      @Never_Wr0ng หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheKh65 Don't put the blame of a poor environment on the player.
      Kai Havertz was the worst signing last season......
      Great Managers judge players by their ability not performance.

    • @cottonwhyy
      @cottonwhyy หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Never_Wr0ng you cannot be still slandering havertz after the last 10 months he's had mate

    • @Never_Wr0ng
      @Never_Wr0ng หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cottonwhyy That was my point. Havertz is a great player.
      He was crap at Chelsea because Chelsea were crap.

  • @kaizerlock8287
    @kaizerlock8287 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Now lets hear hear those people saying "Arsenal need striker" change to "Arsenal needs midfielder"

    • @DuaneWest-o1y
      @DuaneWest-o1y หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tbh honest the bottlers need a proper manager, not a clown who spends £700m and wins nothing for 4 years running 😅

  • @wrd777
    @wrd777 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would use Saka in Odegard's role, Sterling replacing him wide. Trossard for Jesus. Timber for Partey.

  • @stephenkrus
    @stephenkrus หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should call this uploads "Tactical Coffee w/ that FourFourTwo Dude" 😏😅✨👍

    • @DuaneWest-o1y
      @DuaneWest-o1y หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah, he should call it "More Excuses For 4 Years Of Embarrassing Failure" 😅

  • @christiansimbarashe
    @christiansimbarashe หลายเดือนก่อน

    so far, we still trust arteta. So sad about martinelli's massive regression over the past year

  • @adsbegon8405
    @adsbegon8405 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like saka could play in that odegaard role with martinelli playing in rw

  • @nintendope8837
    @nintendope8837 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

  • @haventakazoo3602
    @haventakazoo3602 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Babe wake up four-four-two video just dropped

    • @DuaneWest-o1y
      @DuaneWest-o1y หลายเดือนก่อน

      You must love your husband....

  • @colinskahilu
    @colinskahilu หลายเดือนก่อน

    Martinelli has really lost his spark. Can't belive he didn't score that 😢

  • @holdtightadele8017
    @holdtightadele8017 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’d be fairly confident about beating Man City, but that confidence is dented due to not having Ødegaard.

  • @bennymotalem340
    @bennymotalem340 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great. Now Pep will see this.

  • @88klac
    @88klac หลายเดือนก่อน

    Arsenal have 1 position which is absolutely essential to their style of play. So you might think that they would have a backup if the player in that position got serioiusly injured. So what do they do? Get rid of the two players, Smith-Rowe and Veiria, who could have deputised for Odegaard. They have deputies for the goalkeeper, full backs, cenrebacks, defensive midfield, centre forward, wingers, but not an attacking creative number 8. Not too clever of Arteta.

    • @DuaneWest-o1y
      @DuaneWest-o1y หลายเดือนก่อน

      The style of play that's won you nothing for 4 years running 😅

  • @ryannthegeek_1
    @ryannthegeek_1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hope he will recover soon

  • @martinavila7401
    @martinavila7401 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Atalanta makes everyone look sloppy as the man to man system is not very common nowadays and makes football more about phisicality than about skills.

  • @azeeznurudeenademola2224
    @azeeznurudeenademola2224 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ateata needs to trust nwaneri with this role

  • @kingkenzokwansa
    @kingkenzokwansa หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Arteta didn't lie when he said 'we have to go to a level when in our bad day we're good enough to win'
    Rewatch his first interview before the pre-season

    • @syedasadhaider4677
      @syedasadhaider4677 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      our worst has to be better than their best

    • @kingkenzokwansa
      @kingkenzokwansa หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@syedasadhaider4677 exactly!!! Thanks for wording it so well and better

    • @DuaneWest-o1y
      @DuaneWest-o1y หลายเดือนก่อน

      He lied though Jaffa when in 2019 he told you he was gonna win the CL in 2 years 😅
      Once a cone layer always a cone layer

    • @DuaneWest-o1y
      @DuaneWest-o1y หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@kingkenzokwansaWording embarrassing failure is your speciality Jafda 😅

  • @anonymousfx_traders
    @anonymousfx_traders หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is why they should've kept Smith Rowe

  • @nkurunzizasumayire
    @nkurunzizasumayire หลายเดือนก่อน

    Without Martin the solution is not to play Kai in midfield and should stop it because it has never helped us in any way!

  • @Metaldamo
    @Metaldamo หลายเดือนก่อน

    Start Stearling in place of Martinelli and we have chance for the win against city

  • @Sturdyeureka
    @Sturdyeureka หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Odegard we need you x3000

  • @palico004
    @palico004 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rice and Timber and Martinelli are all right footed so they all want to take it inside. You need a left footer there for balance in the attack. Combine that with a midfield saturated with defensive minded midfielders that aren't comfortable holding the ball and just want to release it. Not a fun watch

  • @naomibosibori3138
    @naomibosibori3138 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sloppy passing was tbe issue.The touches were awful😅 Nullified the Atlanta press though but the attack needs to click

  • @jamaalpierre2215
    @jamaalpierre2215 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Talks about Joao Felix to Chelsea and doesn’t talk about the match he came on and score the goal that you predicted. Instead talks about two boring Arsenal game in a row.

  • @bigmangaming6307
    @bigmangaming6307 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Idk how long the channel has been doing this but the background music looping is unbearable, I love the vid but I end up turning the volume to where I almost cant here the host

  • @dobiqwolf
    @dobiqwolf หลายเดือนก่อน

    is Calafiori supposed to be able to do the Odegard part?

    • @nassernathan
      @nassernathan หลายเดือนก่อน

      His a defender

  • @testing-je7yz
    @testing-je7yz หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awful decision to play Havertz who isn't known for stamina or flare in the middle of the park. Partey would have been a better option and probably Timber at CDM.

  • @d.mac-6193
    @d.mac-6193 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where is Merino? He seems like the perfect replacement.

    • @samthrupp1729
      @samthrupp1729 หลายเดือนก่อน

      broken collarbone

  • @Kenyan_254.
    @Kenyan_254. หลายเดือนก่อน

    As UNITED fan am praying for arsenal to beat man city please GOD

  • @rorzag
    @rorzag หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gonna be interesting! Arsenal is a very versitale team.

  • @jameshart3869
    @jameshart3869 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder if Arsenal do struggle who might rise up to challenge City. Maybe the 115 charges is the title challenger

  • @ThyUncle-d3q
    @ThyUncle-d3q หลายเดือนก่อน

    Arsenal had an issue with technical quality, execution and mentality

  • @kara86ster
    @kara86ster หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm thinking Arteta should turn into being Mourinho for the time being... 😅

  • @PythagorasinBoots
    @PythagorasinBoots หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It doesn’t hurt to tell the truth…

    • @niksutliff
      @niksutliff หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The level of arsenal glaze is crazy.... Why can't people just say "yeah arsenal were pretty bad without odegaard" no it's always oh they weren't that bad. Yes they were. They were a missed penalty and a Missed follow up from losing, deservedly.

    • @minecesar0879
      @minecesar0879 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@niksutliffyou can be bad but still be better than how you looked

    • @heinzii7834
      @heinzii7834 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@niksutliff They were also a few good finishes away from winning the game, you sound stupid as fuck pretending the negatives are the only thing that matters. This is a video about tactics not what if's though. In the words of Rafael Nadal- if if if doesn't exist. The tactics do sit-down little man.

    • @FourFourTwo
      @FourFourTwo  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah I’ve slept on it and I hate that title

  • @srykextraodinairecreation9962
    @srykextraodinairecreation9962 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Zinchenko no8 should play along side Nwaneri no10 and Rice no6

  • @MiaScarlett-k4z
    @MiaScarlett-k4z หลายเดือนก่อน +86

    I like the fact you talked about why Arsenal didnt go for a striker

    • @lifesahobby.
      @lifesahobby. หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm confused. Are you an actual woman?

    • @fromtheblonx
      @fromtheblonx หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Same! He nailed it, again👌

    • @zeandean79
      @zeandean79 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@fromtheblonxHe always does. So glad he’s finally get the subscribers and recognition he deserves. Easily my favourite pundit.

    • @fromtheblonx
      @fromtheblonx หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zeandean79 Easily!

    • @lifesahobby.
      @lifesahobby. หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MiaScarlett-k4z seriously? You deleted my comment. Idiot lol