UPDATE: thanks to a nice commenter I am now aware that ALL versions of this keyboard can go down to 0.02 actuation after you update the firmware in the browser! Save your money people! I should have mentioned this in the video, this keyboard is fully hot-swappable, and supports gateron he switches aswell! Sound test at 9:04! Other timestamps in the description or in the chapters section! What other peripherals would you like to see me review in the future? Thanks for watching! ❤
Hello, have you tried to change the switch to gateron? Even tho it's using gateron socket, they are not intended for gateron. Apparently there's a lot of RMA case because their pcb is breaking after using gateron switch, so they said if your board come with aiyan switch it can only use aiyan switch. Except one version that using gateron (the yellow keycap) they said you can use other gateron switch with that. I got this info from my retailer and my friend that asked their customer service in JD (chinese marketplace).
@ I put a few jades in (mostly for my movement and consumable keys) and they worked fine for the few hours I tested them. I did switch them back though I liked the stock switches enough and I prefer a uniform feel across my board.
@@TrixSquid oh yeah, I found some people use gateron jade and it works fine. idk what type of gateron switch that chinese ppl use so the pcb is breaking, or maybe they're using basic or 1K variant. My friends already tested some switch on it too, like jade amethyst (works fine) and geon raptor (doesn't work). My unit still on my friend in CN, I can't wait for it to arrive here and test with my geon raw he.
@@behoon I am using the gateron jade pros on mine and can confirm that they do work and sound amazing. I think any switch that's compatible with the wooting is compatible with this board.
thank you so much, i've never seen a white version review and i had doubts about buying the white version but looking at this video i'll make sure to get that one, it looks amazing!
I am so close to buying a wooting and then I see that the chinese have made a keyboard with no issues for 1/8 of the price I wasn't even looking for a 60HE, but for 40eu instead of 220, the function row can go [redacted] 😂 good video, greetings from Belgium 😄
Do you have any idea if this fits aftermarket wooting cases? Or can you compare screw wholes with a wooting board. I've been eyeing this keyboard for a while especially the 68 one. Kinda want it recased instead on an aluminum one for different sound profile. Thank you in advance! Great review. You definitely should do a guide on the software, especially on RT settings for new comers on HE keyboards.
@@hmn_cls1399 yeah it does! Exactly the same as a Wooting 60HE. I put mine in a tofu redux today. Fits like a glove. I don’t know where you are gonna find a case for the 68 version though. That might be tough.
Yo trix amazing video brother just wanna point out that i actually own the 68r version and its actually kinda different. I get your point every variant on this keyboard is actually good but i compare the sound and my switches (kunlun ones not the same as you have) are much creamier and sound better. Also I`ve looked at a lot of chinese and indian and every review and the 68r actually has less imput delay than all the others and also less imput delay that most flagship hall effect keyboards on the market. I just wanted to say this to clarify if someone still had doubts on which version to pick. Anyways amazing review and video brother keep the amazing work up!
Thanks for clarifying! Yeah I knew they were different but I meant that you wouldn’t really feel the minimal difference in latency. Maybe I should have worded it differently. Thanks for clearing this up!
Have you test the Deadzone on this board? I own the FIRE68 which is on the same brand and same webdriver as this. but, the deadzone is too large for me to handle.. Top Deadzone 0.36mm and Bottom Deadzone 0.45mm (Hardware/Firmware based issue?) I have the Deadzone Settings on the webdriver at 0.00mm and the Deadzone is still obvious not changing and noticeable to feel. Overall I would still rate this brand 5/10 to be honest. They only felt just produce the board and that's it.. I doubt that they can fix the Hardware-based Deadzone anyways.
This keyboard is definitely worth it imo i like the white version tho i dislkie it a bit bcs there's no letters on the white version lol so for me i prefer the first option on their website & just swap out keycaps & paint the casing, great review 👍
@@Texas-1126 if you want a better look I show them on the thumbnail and when I show the design of the board. Maybe I should have taken the keycaps off to show separately. I will keep this in mind for the next review. Thanks!
@@vladbivol8153 Yeah, a friend of mine bought from the same seller. That’s why I kind of trusted it. Either way I know AliExpress is very good with refunds. As I have had issues with other sellers in the past. There is always the official website aswell!
ohh gonna have to pick one of these up! I couldnt justify spending the amount of money on a wooting keyboard lol so this is a cool option to have. Also the stabilizers sound pretty good!
Ordered the white ultimate because of your review thanks so much! Just a question if you dont mind tho if youve played fortnite with this how close/comparable would you say it is the wooting's performance in fortnite.
I did my best, it’s my first video so I did forget a few things. I have tried to clear up as many things as possible in the comments. And pinned comment. Thanks for watching! ❤
@@Moneyyzz if price isn’t really a problem I would get the melgeekmade 68. I own one myself and it is really really nice! You could get this one if you are on a tighter budget!
So many people say this, but what is so special about the wooting software? I picked up one of these keyboards and the software seems decent. I don't understand what the wooting does better.
@@SmokeyNagata22 The Customization and Control that the software gives is better than anything else. This is only for HE Switches (hall-effect), if you want non HE keyboard there's many way better options.
@@TrixSquid Thanks! Will you make more videos of other mice and keyboards? I saw this video and wanted to check out more but saw this was your first video :D subscribed and the bell is on
@@Awkward1337 Thank you so much! Yeah that is the plan, to review more stuff. I used to make gaming content when i was a little kid but all of those videos are private now haha. Thanks for the support! :D
Just got my mad68he with the 8k polling rate and its great, only thing I'll mention is that the switches are made a little cheaply, but you would only notice that when trying to remove, which I did to swap them out for magnetic jade pros.
@@piwan4780 I took one of the switches out and mine honestly felt okay. They had less wobble than my original lekkers haha. But they do have a bunch of different switches so maybe yours are a bit different. Happy you like the board!
@@jameshong-e3d I can but my keyboard shows up as the wrong one so I’m not certain that it’s doing anything. Apparently according to another commenter you aren’t supposed to be able to unless you get the R version.
My keyboard shows up in the software as the R version. Which supposedly is able to change the polling rate. But since it isn’t the R version I don’t think it’s doing anything
is there a massive difference between the 8000hz and the 1000hz keyboard? im from brazil and there is a quite big difference in price between the two versions thanks!
Thanks for answering! But indeed there is minimal difference nothing you or I would ever be able to feel! The 8000hz numbers just look fancy in a spreadsheet! At some point we reach a point of diminishing returns.
I ordered from the link in your description 4 days ago and it still hasnt shipped out yet, still says processing. I know you said yours shipped in 7 days, do you mean it took them 7 days to ship it or 7 days to arrive? If it took 7 days to arrive how long did it take them to ship it from the time you ordered?
wonder what's the latency; looks like wooting copy but like 1 to 1 but kudos to the company for making a browser based app cause I wouldn't trust downloading a Chinese kb software lol
Yeah I totally get that hahaha! I think web based stuff is the future anyways. And for the latency I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if the latency is pretty “slow” to cut in on the cost maybe? Either way I felt zero difference to my apex pro tkl. I also used to own a wooting and that also felt the same. So it may be slower but I don’t think you would feel it.
Then again my version is the 8000hz, so maybe the 1000hz is slower than the wootings 1000hz. But from what I’ve heard it feels nice and responsive aswell.
@@Syvern. I get what you mean, but I also understand where the commenter is coming from. I don’t think he actually means Chinese, just the software from a cheaper lesser known brand
Eyejoker did latency tests. It is all false marketing. The 8k polling madlions is slower than the 1k polling 60HE lol. Also the actuation point doesnt go below 0.15 even though you set it in the app to 0.02 or something.
@@i_ihyperz_i1518 Nope! This one has RGB aswell it was just off in the video. The performance is the same for rgb and no rgb! Just preference or a way to save a bit of money :D
@@TrixSquidokay thanks for such a quick reply i didn’t really know which one to go for cause there was so many different options so i started to assume they were all the same just trying to make it seem like they were better so i thought id go for the cheaper one great review and i can’t wait for mine to arrive
@ Yeah that’s basically what’s happening here. Most of these “differences” are so minor you would never notice when it comes to performance. Also they just updated the software so now all of the versions can use the “more expensive” 0.02 actuation. Just goes to show that was possible from the start but they wanted to make some money i guess. Anyways have fun with your keyboard! It’s great!
If that’s the only thing keeping you from buying it I would just buy the 1000hz! 8000hz is just a gimmick. Yes it has a faster response time but you won’t ever feel it. 1000hz is the way to go!
Not worth they are practically the same For reference:th-cam.com/video/29BLzcuNtoc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=oXzW4rTjdPrEVTA_&t=659 If you want an actual 8000hz board go for ace60 or the ace68 (I suggest Ace68 more because of 128K scan rate (8 KEYS x 16kHz)and same pricing so ace68 better a bit but if you play only fps pick what you want)
@@TrixSquid Okay thanks another question is i bought two one for me and one for my freind i got the flagship and he got the normal version it got shipped today but when i go to the shipping section it says packaged items 1x now im worried that only one of them got shipped even tho i paid for both
1. After you update firmware to 1.0.4 it will make it possible to 0.02mm RT for ALL VERSIONS. So there no more reason to buy expensive versions. 2. You mentioned that you can turn off 8000hz polling, that's not true. You can't change polling rate, only on R version, which is looking kinda sus, because there no proofs is it 1000 or 8000hz 🤔 3. The body cases for these keyboards manufactured on the same factory as wooting
I was able to change the polling rate after updating the 1.4 best performance firmware patch or something similar in name. Before that it indeed wasn’t possible. Thank you so much for the information!
@ sure I could screen record it but I don’t know where I would show you, I’m not gonna upload that as a separate video haha. Maybe il make it a TH-cam short
@ I do also see that for some reason since I updated the firmware the keyboard in the video (the white one) shows up as a mad68r when it used to show up as a mad60. Maybe that’s why? Maybe it’s just a visual thing and it doesn’t change anything? Do you know anything about this?
@@TrixSquid First time I hear smthing like this, you're lucky then haha. I just know that any version except R doesn't have possibility of changing polling rate.
i got the 68 white rgb for 46$ on aliexpress... think that 8k hz its just placebo... dont know where you found it for 31$, click bait ? 31E its not the same as 31$
If you skip to the part where I show the different versions, the $31 references the 1000hz no rgb version. The euro and the dollar are close enough. I got my white mad60 for a little under €45. I also agree that the 8000hz is almost not noticeable. Thanks for watching! :D
@@T1peltje I don’t think it would do anything. I think you would be able to open it on the browser just fine but I don’t know if it would recognise the keyboard :( but I could be wrong!
@ it shouldn’t, if you play on Xbox I wouldn’t buy the 8000hz and just save your money anyways. It’s almost impossible to feel the difference even on a PC. I would just get a 1000hz version. And if the rgb works in the browser on Xbox I don’t see why the rest wouldn’t!
Definitely not hard to make a better keyboard than wooting, there are better cases, better (sounding) switches and smoother stabs all over the place, the "mother brand" probably owns the factory wooting order their cases from, what is more difficult is to make a better software and eventually a 2 to 4 years warranty ( and are fine with using ANSI layout ). But i agree if you want to try how it feel to use a HE keyboards whithout having to pay 175€ for a wooting, go for this one, turns out, HE is fine but personally i still do prefer using a mechanical one.
Yeah that sounds about right. The base wooting configuration is pretty hard to justify for the price. But nothing beats the software and customer support they offer. Thanks for watching friend!
@@juku80 that’s weird, I even customised my function layer and it works fine. Maybe try doing that? Or do you have the Mac setting turned on by accident?
@@yung_mesiarz Hey, I have my WASD set to 0.30 (0.10 is too fast for me personally). My edit, pickaxe and build binds are set to 0.40 . My sprint, crouch and spacebar are 0.10 and all other keys are 1,50. Rapid trigger is on across all keys with both of the rapid trigger settings set to 0.15! Also my windows key has rapid trigger turned off and the deepest actuation set! But this keyboard does have a windows key disable function so this isn’t needed.
@@velox6658 I sadly don’t have a rig like Optimum to test latency. All I can go on is feel. To me this felt just as responsive as both my wooting 60he and my apex pro tkl 2023. Bare in mind I’ve had this keyboard for a few days. Maybe it doesn’t hold up well, maybe the keycaps wear off. Maybe the stabs become loose. Maybe some video debunks the whole 8000hz thing and maybe this thing runs at 500 or something. Bottom line is that during my testing this keyboard felt flawless and felt like a joy to play on!
ive been looking and looking for keyboards these past few weeks, ive watched countless reviews, i‘ve given up on anything iso-de (im german yes) because its either 200€ or simply not available. Of course i found good options like Iquinox EZ63, Wooting 60HE or Magger68 Pro, but i‘ve noticed the horrendeus Build Quality of Wooting and im not paying 300€ extra for Modding a 190€ Keyboard. Would you personally and whole-heartedly reccomend this Keyboard to anyone? I‘ve looked at the Black Version of this and the Keycaps‘s Letters look Badly printed on, and do you know if they‘re ABS or PBT Keycaps on your version? Would it be neccessery to buy new Quality Keycaps? I apologize if i‘m asking too much i prefer to properly educate myself before a purchase and i have a hardtime believing that something so cheap can be so incredibly good, i‘d be happy for an update Video on the Hold-up in a few days because i‘m looking a keyboard for christmas for myself, course results may wary, i dont know ur gaming habits and hours but i think you‘re enthusiatic about Gaming urself. Looking forward to it
This one (white ultimate) comes with their “pro” switch. The most expensive 70 dollar version comes with the kunlun switch if I’m not mistaken. And the cheaper ones come with their “magnetic axis” switch. They may sound or feel a bit different. And may be faster on paper, but nothing you or I would ever feel latency wise. This keyboard is also fully hot-swappable so if you would like to add gateron jades for example you can!
@@liamwashere1405I would just wait it out a little bit. My order was pretty quick but I’ve had products from them take between 7-10 days sometimes up to 2 weeks. I wouldn’t stress it, if it still doesn’t show up in a few days you can always request a refund. AliExpress is very good with refunds!
@@TrixSquid lol i looked there but the only one thats probably legit doesnt have the white version for me im in germany so i cant use the same store as u
@@TrixSquid found one now but the item only got 12 sales and is only 10 euro cheaper than the normal site. on the normal site its 58 with shipping and coupon
Yeah I know, I should have worded it differently. I meant that all the switches have the same performance. They may be different on paper but you would never feel it. Apart from a different sound and physical feel maybe. Also with the new firmware update ALL versions of this keyboard van do the 0.02 now!
yeah cause the wooting might be the best but also it is the most overpriced piece of plastic out there, most magnetic keyboards are literally more than good enough and all this "wooting" glazing is honestly pretty sad. Sure if you want the best (on paper) keyboard then go ahead and get the wooting 80he but that shit is still overpriced as fuck. I legit cannot believe that people are still not shutting the fuck up about keyboards, just get a magnetic keyboard, turn on those soon-to-be-banned-from-games features and use it 🤦♂🤦♂
Yeah fair enough hahaha. I felt the difference going from mechanical to Hall effect but I haven’t felt much difference between different Hall effect boards. Just get one and be happy. It will also never be as important as going from membrane to mechanical.
legit 30 euros you crouch spamming LUN, legit its just meant to be a copy and it's good for the price, now get back to crouching everytime you get a kill yng
Yeah it is kind of a blatant copy. I’ve also seen this brand do it with different boards. They have a keyboard that looks the exact same as the much more expensive Melgeek made68. But for the price I guess you couldn’t go wrong.
It's a quarter of the price of Wooting. Innovation is expensive, this is aimed at people who want something decent but aren't looking to spend $200 on a keyboard
UPDATE: thanks to a nice commenter I am now aware that ALL versions of this keyboard can go down to 0.02 actuation after you update the firmware in the browser! Save your money people!
I should have mentioned this in the video, this keyboard is fully hot-swappable, and supports gateron he switches aswell!
Sound test at 9:04! Other timestamps in the description or in the chapters section! What other peripherals would you like to see me review in the future?
Thanks for watching! ❤
Hello, have you tried to change the switch to gateron? Even tho it's using gateron socket, they are not intended for gateron. Apparently there's a lot of RMA case because their pcb is breaking after using gateron switch, so they said if your board come with aiyan switch it can only use aiyan switch. Except one version that using gateron (the yellow keycap) they said you can use other gateron switch with that. I got this info from my retailer and my friend that asked their customer service in JD (chinese marketplace).
@ I put a few jades in (mostly for my movement and consumable keys) and they worked fine for the few hours I tested them. I did switch them back though I liked the stock switches enough and I prefer a uniform feel across my board.
@@TrixSquid oh yeah, I found some people use gateron jade and it works fine. idk what type of gateron switch that chinese ppl use so the pcb is breaking, or maybe they're using basic or 1K variant. My friends already tested some switch on it too, like jade amethyst (works fine) and geon raptor (doesn't work). My unit still on my friend in CN, I can't wait for it to arrive here and test with my geon raw he.
@@behoon good luck!
@@behoon I am using the gateron jade pros on mine and can confirm that they do work and sound amazing. I think any switch that's compatible with the wooting is compatible with this board.
Great review, thank you for creating it! I am also glad that your video gets so much interaction!
@@TypeHero thank you so much!
thank you bro, i m french and you answered my questions.
Happy to help!
Les français on est laaa
@@boxedbyyaya YEESSSSS
thank you so much, i've never seen a white version review and i had doubts about buying the white version but looking at this video i'll make sure to get that one, it looks amazing!
@@restingrot yeah it looks really good doesn’t it? I should have shown it on the video but the RGB really pops on this version aswell!
@@TrixSquidi imagine so, in the other versions it doesn't stand out much, but in this one the rgb must be beautiful!!
@@restingrot yeah it is! Truly looks like an expensive keycaps set aswell
yo wsp trix this is your fist vid that i watched and im in love keep it up buddy
Thanks for watching!
I am so close to buying a wooting and then I see that the chinese have made a keyboard with no issues for 1/8 of the price
I wasn't even looking for a 60HE, but for 40eu instead of 220, the function row can go [redacted] 😂
good video, greetings from Belgium 😄
Greetings back from Belgium! A small town in Antwerp here!
Do you have any idea if this fits aftermarket wooting cases? Or can you compare screw wholes with a wooting board. I've been eyeing this keyboard for a while especially the 68 one. Kinda want it recased instead on an aluminum one for different sound profile. Thank you in advance! Great review.
You definitely should do a guide on the software, especially on RT settings for new comers on HE keyboards.
@@hmn_cls1399 yeah it does! Exactly the same as a Wooting 60HE. I put mine in a tofu redux today. Fits like a glove. I don’t know where you are gonna find a case for the 68 version though. That might be tough.
@@hmn_cls1399 as for the guide, I will think about doing a detailed video about it!
Yo trix amazing video brother just wanna point out that i actually own the 68r version and its actually kinda different. I get your point every variant on this keyboard is actually good but i compare the sound and my switches (kunlun ones not the same as you have) are much creamier and sound better. Also I`ve looked at a lot of chinese and indian and every review and the 68r actually has less imput delay than all the others and also less imput delay that most flagship hall effect keyboards on the market. I just wanted to say this to clarify if someone still had doubts on which version to pick. Anyways amazing review and video brother keep the amazing work up!
Thanks for clarifying! Yeah I knew they were different but I meant that you wouldn’t really feel the minimal difference in latency. Maybe I should have worded it differently. Thanks for clearing this up!
Cool Vid, just ordered one after watching this.
Thanks for watching! Enjoy the keyboard!
@ as a matter of fact, im going to order one for my gf when shes back from vacation lol
@ Nice man! She will love it!
Have you test the Deadzone on this board?
I own the FIRE68 which is on the same brand and same webdriver as this. but, the deadzone is too large for me to handle..
Top Deadzone 0.36mm and Bottom Deadzone 0.45mm (Hardware/Firmware based issue?)
I have the Deadzone Settings on the webdriver at 0.00mm and the Deadzone is still obvious not changing and noticeable to feel.
Overall I would still rate this brand 5/10 to be honest. They only felt just produce the board and that's it.. I doubt that they can fix the Hardware-based Deadzone anyways.
@@vac4ncy mine always changed nicely, the lower settings felt instant just as they would feel on any other Hall effect board I’ve used!
This keyboard is definitely worth it imo i like the white version tho i dislkie it a bit bcs there's no letters on the white version lol so for me i prefer the first option on their website & just swap out keycaps & paint the casing, great review 👍
@@Texas-1126 there is letters on it! Just on the side of the keycaps!
@TrixSquid ouhh I didn't know LOL
@@Texas-1126 if you want a better look I show them on the thumbnail and when I show the design of the board. Maybe I should have taken the keycaps off to show separately. I will keep this in mind for the next review. Thanks!
@@TrixSquid is the white color version 8000hz polling rate on their website?
@ yeah!
damn you bought a product with no reviews? Thats bold but glad its safe, might buy from there as well
@@vladbivol8153 Yeah, a friend of mine bought from the same seller. That’s why I kind of trusted it. Either way I know AliExpress is very good with refunds. As I have had issues with other sellers in the past. There is always the official website aswell!
ohh gonna have to pick one of these up! I couldnt justify spending the amount of money on a wooting keyboard lol so this is a cool option to have. Also the stabilizers sound pretty good!
@@YonkersDolphin Yeah they really surprised me! I was super super skeptical about this board at first!
Ordered the white ultimate because of your review thanks so much! Just a question if you dont mind tho if youve played fortnite with this how close/comparable would you say it is the wooting's performance in fortnite.
I do not feel a difference between this and the wooting performance wise! It may be there but nothing you or I will ever be able to notice!
@@TrixSquid this reassured me, thanks!
thank you bro !!
Are you able to switch cases like the wooting to use a reflux case?
Yes! That’s my plan with this board
finally an in depth review in english
I did my best, it’s my first video so I did forget a few things. I have tried to clear up as many things as possible in the comments. And pinned comment. Thanks for watching! ❤
magger68,melgeekmade 68 pro,keychron q1 he,atlantis pro,darmoshark kt68z,nuphyhalo65 he,and 007b akko which one should i pick bro
@@Moneyyzz if price isn’t really a problem I would get the melgeekmade 68. I own one myself and it is really really nice! You could get this one if you are on a tighter budget!
Hi! Can you remap keyboard key to mouse key on this software?
Im not sure I will check and let you know!
I am getting the mad 68he 1000hz. I’m just wondering if it was a good purchase
@@sireeni yeah you will love it! thanks for watching :D
My mad 68 r arrives today can't wait for it
Nice bro! Hope you enjoy it! :D
can you send the link of where u bought
please
@@yumerxcy6336Mine is in the description!
i got the white one too its soo beautiful but i think the black one looks too
@@Lightning-y9e yeah the black one does also look clean!
Any keyboard can dethrone the Wooting in build quality, but nothing can beat the Wooting in software.
@@TehOnionGod sounds pretty accurate to me!
oh buddy, wait until u see nuphy software
Yeah no shit
So many people say this, but what is so special about the wooting software? I picked up one of these keyboards and the software seems decent. I don't understand what the wooting does better.
@@SmokeyNagata22 The Customization and Control that the software gives is better than anything else. This is only for HE Switches (hall-effect), if you want non HE keyboard there's many way better options.
Could you show how your switch looks? :) is the bottom part of the switch green?
White stem and a greenish translucent bottom of the switch. This is their "pro" version of the switch. Feels similar to a lekker60 v1!
@@TrixSquid Thanks! Will you make more videos of other mice and keyboards? I saw this video and wanted to check out more but saw this was your first video :D subscribed and the bell is on
@@Awkward1337 Thank you so much! Yeah that is the plan, to review more stuff. I used to make gaming content when i was a little kid but all of those videos are private now haha. Thanks for the support! :D
Just got my mad68he with the 8k polling rate and its great, only thing I'll mention is that the switches are made a little cheaply, but you would only notice that when trying to remove, which I did to swap them out for magnetic jade pros.
@@piwan4780 I took one of the switches out and mine honestly felt okay. They had less wobble than my original lekkers haha. But they do have a bunch of different switches so maybe yours are a bit different. Happy you like the board!
The funny thing, the flagship switches is better than lekker wooting switches.
can you tune down your hz in the software ?
@@jameshong-e3d I can but my keyboard shows up as the wrong one so I’m not certain that it’s doing anything. Apparently according to another commenter you aren’t supposed to be able to unless you get the R version.
My keyboard shows up in the software as the R version. Which supposedly is able to change the polling rate. But since it isn’t the R version I don’t think it’s doing anything
Is it better than the apex pro or huntsman mini/tkl
@@mohammedshadi9949 I prefer it over my apex pro tkl! Sounds nicer and feels a lot more premium
You can have 0.02 RT on the keyboard but you need to update the firmware from web driver
Thank you! This does work!
does it support other switches like the Geon Raptors? I'm new to HE keyboards.
Yes! I should have mentioned this keyboard is hot swappable!
@@TrixSquid Thanks, Good to know. Would like to try other HE switches.
@@allblackheartz good luck! Hope you find a nice switch!
Well, I found my keyboard thanks bro!!!
No problem friend!
does it have SOCD/snaptap ?
Yes!
is there a massive difference between the 8000hz and the 1000hz keyboard?
im from brazil and there is a quite big difference in price between the two versions
thanks!
Not from what I have seen.
@ Thanks!!
Thanks for answering! But indeed there is minimal difference nothing you or I would ever be able to feel! The 8000hz numbers just look fancy in a spreadsheet! At some point we reach a point of diminishing returns.
I ordered from the link in your description 4 days ago and it still hasnt shipped out yet, still says processing. I know you said yours shipped in 7 days, do you mean it took them 7 days to ship it or 7 days to arrive? If it took 7 days to arrive how long did it take them to ship it from the time you ordered?
Just be patience. It's coming from China so it will take 2 weeks at most. Just keep checking for updates.
@ i know that but typically i get a notification that the order has been shipped within a day or two. It hasnt even shipped at all yet.
It took mine 5 days to ship from China, 7 days to arrive at my door. :)
wonder what's the latency; looks like wooting copy but like 1 to 1 but kudos to the company for making a browser based app cause I wouldn't trust downloading a Chinese kb software lol
Yeah I totally get that hahaha! I think web based stuff is the future anyways. And for the latency I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if the latency is pretty “slow” to cut in on the cost maybe? Either way I felt zero difference to my apex pro tkl. I also used to own a wooting and that also felt the same. So it may be slower but I don’t think you would feel it.
Then again my version is the 8000hz, so maybe the 1000hz is slower than the wootings 1000hz. But from what I’ve heard it feels nice and responsive aswell.
Kind of sinophobic, but ok...
@@Syvern. I get what you mean, but I also understand where the commenter is coming from. I don’t think he actually means Chinese, just the software from a cheaper lesser known brand
Eyejoker did latency tests. It is all false marketing. The 8k polling madlions is slower than the 1k polling 60HE lol. Also the actuation point doesnt go below 0.15 even though you set it in the app to 0.02 or something.
hey just wondering does the keyboard have socd features?
Yep, they do.
Thanks for answering! I was asleep haha. But yes as you mentioned they do
i ordered the nd63 pro heard a lot of great things about it, has the same features as these just less wooting looking lol
Yeah this one does look just like a wooting haha. Enjoy your board!
how long time did it take u to revieve the order and where did u buy it from
Bought it from the AliExpress link in the description. Took exactly 7 days to arrive.
@@TrixSquid and u are from the US?
@@d0ubletapI am from Belgium, Europe :)
@@TrixSquid alr. Im from denmark and i ordered it 5 days ago just from a different seller.
and only yesterday it got shipped from china
i went with the rgb one was that a bad decision
@@i_ihyperz_i1518 Nope! This one has RGB aswell it was just off in the video. The performance is the same for rgb and no rgb! Just preference or a way to save a bit of money :D
@@TrixSquidokay thanks for such a quick reply i didn’t really know which one to go for cause there was so many different options so i started to assume they were all the same just trying to make it seem like they were better so i thought id go for the cheaper one great review and i can’t wait for mine to arrive
@ Yeah that’s basically what’s happening here. Most of these “differences” are so minor you would never notice when it comes to performance. Also they just updated the software so now all of the versions can use the “more expensive” 0.02 actuation. Just goes to show that was possible from the start but they wanted to make some money i guess. Anyways have fun with your keyboard! It’s great!
@ thank you yeah i don’t see the point of having all the different options just makes it difficult to pick 😂
did you feel the difference between 8000hz and 1000hz on the keyboard?? i was thinking about that,because its 15$ difference for this keyboard
If that’s the only thing keeping you from buying it I would just buy the 1000hz! 8000hz is just a gimmick. Yes it has a faster response time but you won’t ever feel it. 1000hz is the way to go!
On paper the 8000hz is faster. But you won’t feel the difference
Not worth they are practically the same
For reference:th-cam.com/video/29BLzcuNtoc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=oXzW4rTjdPrEVTA_&t=659
If you want an actual 8000hz board go for ace60 or the ace68 (I suggest Ace68 more because of 128K scan rate (8 KEYS x 16kHz)and same pricing so ace68 better a bit but if you play only fps pick what you want)
@ thanks for the suggestion!
But is there a difference if you buy it on AliExpress and the original website?
@@Dantjes Nope, just price and shipping fees.
how long did i take for the seller to ship and how long was shipping?
Took about 5 days for the keyboard to leave China. Then another 2 to get to my house. 7 days total.
@@TrixSquid Okay thanks another question is i bought two one for me and one for my freind i got the flagship and he got the normal version it got shipped today but when i go to the shipping section it says packaged items 1x now im worried that only one of them got shipped even tho i paid for both
@ odds are they are just shipping separately. I have had bigger orders on AliExpress ship in 2 or 3 packages. Don’t worry they will both arrive!
@@TrixSquid Okay thank you very much
does keyboard have snap tap?
Yes sir!
@@TrixSquid and does mad 60 he have poling rate customize
@@HiddenExpertly no it's not. Only mad68R has
Anyone know about a budget TKL HE keyboard?
No idea really, I know plenty 65-68% but no tkl
does this keyboard you bought have rgb?
@@Xablo-yo Yeah it does and it really pops on the white version! I should have shown it better in the video.
1. After you update firmware to 1.0.4 it will make it possible to 0.02mm RT for ALL VERSIONS. So there no more reason to buy expensive versions.
2. You mentioned that you can turn off 8000hz polling, that's not true. You can't change polling rate, only on R version, which is looking kinda sus, because there no proofs is it 1000 or 8000hz 🤔
3. The body cases for these keyboards manufactured on the same factory as wooting
I was able to change the polling rate after updating the 1.4 best performance firmware patch or something similar in name. Before that it indeed wasn’t possible. Thank you so much for the information!
@TrixSquid Can you please record it on video?
@ sure I could screen record it but I don’t know where I would show you, I’m not gonna upload that as a separate video haha. Maybe il make it a TH-cam short
@ I do also see that for some reason since I updated the firmware the keyboard in the video (the white one) shows up as a mad68r when it used to show up as a mad60. Maybe that’s why? Maybe it’s just a visual thing and it doesn’t change anything? Do you know anything about this?
@@TrixSquid First time I hear smthing like this, you're lucky then haha.
I just know that any version except R doesn't have possibility of changing polling rate.
ordered mine on the 1st! cant wait for it to arrive hehehehe
@@quatre_monet Enjoy your keyboard! If you have any more questions be sure to let me know! Thank you so much for watching :D
@TrixSquid thanks brother just wondering if you can use the software on Firefox since Ion use chrome or edge I don’t mind ig just wondering
@ yeah of course! Runs on any browser!
update the firmware so u can get socd and other feature
@@dahyunie16 Yeah I did, thanks for looking out!
i got the 68 white rgb for 46$ on aliexpress... think that 8k hz its just placebo... dont know where you found it for 31$, click bait ? 31E its not the same as 31$
If you skip to the part where I show the different versions, the $31 references the 1000hz no rgb version. The euro and the dollar are close enough. I got my white mad60 for a little under €45. I also agree that the 8000hz is almost not noticeable. Thanks for watching! :D
Please review the aulu win60 he
Il add it to the list!
what keycaps can I use on the mad r?
Any cherry profile keycaps will do! (Basically any keycap, barely anyone sells different types.)
Does this have socd?
@@NotAcstetic yes!
Is the software possible on xbox microsoft
@@T1peltje I don’t think it would do anything. I think you would be able to open it on the browser just fine but I don’t know if it would recognise the keyboard :( but I could be wrong!
@ i heard u can change de rgb but would the 8k hertz do anything with my xbox performance or sum
@ it shouldn’t, if you play on Xbox I wouldn’t buy the 8000hz and just save your money anyways. It’s almost impossible to feel the difference even on a PC. I would just get a 1000hz version. And if the rgb works in the browser on Xbox I don’t see why the rest wouldn’t!
@@TrixSquid well i already bought it cuz it whas like half off but thank you
@ no worries! It shouldn’t mess with the Xbox anyways. Enjoy the keyboard friend!
Definitely not hard to make a better keyboard than wooting, there are better cases, better (sounding) switches and smoother stabs all over the place, the "mother brand" probably owns the factory wooting order their cases from, what is more difficult is to make a better software and eventually a 2 to 4 years warranty ( and are fine with using ANSI layout ).
But i agree if you want to try how it feel to use a HE keyboards whithout having to pay 175€ for a wooting, go for this one, turns out, HE is fine but personally i still do prefer using a mechanical one.
Yeah that sounds about right. The base wooting configuration is pretty hard to justify for the price. But nothing beats the software and customer support they offer. Thanks for watching friend!
i cant use home del ins and that other stuff
helpppp
Try having a look at the function layer in the software to figure out what combination does what. If that doesn’t work that would really suck.
@@TrixSquid function layer dosent work like i press FN+J and it home put it doesnt do nothing
@@juku80 that’s weird, I even customised my function layer and it works fine. Maybe try doing that? Or do you have the Mac setting turned on by accident?
@@TrixSquid where do i find function layer
@ in the first tab of the software.
Can you maybe show youre fortnite config?
@@yung_mesiarz Hey, I have my WASD set to 0.30 (0.10 is too fast for me personally). My edit, pickaxe and build binds are set to 0.40 . My sprint, crouch and spacebar are 0.10 and all other keys are 1,50. Rapid trigger is on across all keys with both of the rapid trigger settings set to 0.15! Also my windows key has rapid trigger turned off and the deepest actuation set! But this keyboard does have a windows key disable function so this isn’t needed.
@@yung_mesiarz hope this helps! :D
Has my Hate been for no reason? will i end up buying one? whats the Latency like? all and that you will find out under my comment (eventually)
@@velox6658 I sadly don’t have a rig like Optimum to test latency. All I can go on is feel. To me this felt just as responsive as both my wooting 60he and my apex pro tkl 2023. Bare in mind I’ve had this keyboard for a few days. Maybe it doesn’t hold up well, maybe the keycaps wear off. Maybe the stabs become loose. Maybe some video debunks the whole 8000hz thing and maybe this thing runs at 500 or something. Bottom line is that during my testing this keyboard felt flawless and felt like a joy to play on!
ive been looking and looking for keyboards these past few weeks, ive watched countless reviews, i‘ve given up on anything iso-de (im german yes) because its either 200€ or simply not available. Of course i found good options like Iquinox EZ63, Wooting 60HE or Magger68 Pro, but i‘ve noticed the horrendeus Build Quality of Wooting and im not paying 300€ extra for Modding a 190€ Keyboard. Would you personally and whole-heartedly reccomend this Keyboard to anyone?
I‘ve looked at the Black Version of this and the Keycaps‘s Letters look Badly printed on, and do you know if they‘re ABS or PBT Keycaps on your version? Would it be neccessery to buy new Quality Keycaps?
I apologize if i‘m asking too much i prefer to properly educate myself before a purchase and i have a hardtime believing that something so cheap can be so incredibly good, i‘d be happy for an update Video on the Hold-up in a few days because i‘m looking a keyboard for christmas for myself, course results may wary, i dont know ur gaming habits and hours but i think you‘re enthusiatic about Gaming urself.
Looking forward to it
MAD60HE or MCHOSE ACE60 help me pick lololol
I haven't tested the ACE60 but from what i have seen it should be similar. This keyboard is really really nice though! I would recommend this one.
just wondering, what switches does it come with?
This one (white ultimate) comes with their “pro” switch. The most expensive 70 dollar version comes with the kunlun switch if I’m not mistaken. And the cheaper ones come with their “magnetic axis” switch. They may sound or feel a bit different. And may be faster on paper, but nothing you or I would ever feel latency wise. This keyboard is also fully hot-swappable so if you would like to add gateron jades for example you can!
2hollis reference @ 2:54
Yes sir
Can u send link
It’s in the description!
@ thanks and also I have a question it’s been 7 days and it has not arrived and it has not had any updates
@@TrixSquid did urs do that
@@liamwashere1405I would just wait it out a little bit. My order was pretty quick but I’ve had products from them take between 7-10 days sometimes up to 2 weeks. I wouldn’t stress it, if it still doesn’t show up in a few days you can always request a refund. AliExpress is very good with refunds!
@@liamwashere1405it shipped in 7 days for me. But the last few days I did not get any updates on it.
60 € UFF -.-
Wooting is 190
Depends the version of course. The 1000hz no rgb version is sitting at €32 today!
Damn you get it for 34$ the cheapest version i can get with shipping is at 73$
@@breacherguy8038 damn that really sucks. We’re are you based if you don’t mind me asking?
@ norway:)
@@breacherguy8038 Nice, that’s weird though that isn’t too far from me and my shipping was free on AliExpress. Are you using the official website?
why u say 31 if its 60 on the official site lol
@@Finefel Because you can get it on AliExpress! :) that’s where I bought mine
@@TrixSquid lol i looked there but the only one thats probably legit doesnt have the white version for me im in germany so i cant use the same store as u
@@TrixSquid found one now but the item only got 12 sales and is only 10 euro cheaper than the normal site. on the normal site its 58 with shipping and coupon
@@Finefelyeah a seller with only a few sales might be a bit sketchy
@@FinefelNice!
Mad 60 he or mad 68 he
@@Nick123-v3i they have the same feature set! Just depends on if you need the arrow keys and function row! Otherwise they are the same
the R version has better switches
Yeah I know, I should have worded it differently. I meant that all the switches have the same performance. They may be different on paper but you would never feel it. Apart from a different sound and physical feel maybe. Also with the new firmware update ALL versions of this keyboard van do the 0.02 now!
yeah cause the wooting might be the best but also it is the most overpriced piece of plastic out there, most magnetic keyboards are literally more than good enough and all this "wooting" glazing is honestly pretty sad. Sure if you want the best (on paper) keyboard then go ahead and get the wooting 80he but that shit is still overpriced as fuck. I legit cannot believe that people are still not shutting the fuck up about keyboards, just get a magnetic keyboard, turn on those soon-to-be-banned-from-games features and use it 🤦♂🤦♂
Yeah fair enough hahaha. I felt the difference going from mechanical to Hall effect but I haven’t felt much difference between different Hall effect boards. Just get one and be happy. It will also never be as important as going from membrane to mechanical.
WOOTING IS MADE IN CHINA
Im fairly certain they are a brand based in the Netherlands!
Manufacturing in china
@ that sounds more like it :)
@@TrixSquid yeah production unit is in china
@@TrixSquidoh so it’s made in China?
Im pissed! The white goes crazy
Looks good doesn’t it? :)
Box like the wooting
Keyboard design like the wooting
Strap idea like wooting
No inovation just a cheap copy
Thats so sad man
legit 30 euros you crouch spamming LUN, legit its just meant to be a copy and it's good for the price, now get back to crouching everytime you get a kill yng
@adolafps mad for no reason
wooting doesn't come in full white (yes I know you can mod the wooting but that's extra $$)
Yeah it is kind of a blatant copy. I’ve also seen this brand do it with different boards. They have a keyboard that looks the exact same as the much more expensive Melgeek made68. But for the price I guess you couldn’t go wrong.
It's a quarter of the price of Wooting. Innovation is expensive, this is aimed at people who want something decent but aren't looking to spend $200 on a keyboard
do not buy this. the 1k version runs at 500hz, the 8k version runs at 1k. get mchose ace60 instead, it's similar price
So wats the real polling rate for ace60
Where have you seen this?
this probably has 8k scanning rate and 1k polling. misleading to get more buyers. nano68 claims to have 8k polling and 32k scan rate though
How do you know?
@@farmeunit probably eyejoker
damn more wooting niche
They just keep coming don’t they
are the switches pre lubed?
Yes, and very generously. Same same with the stabilisers!
Mad 60 he or mad 68 he