Yeah, I’m a stick in the mud but, I learned high speed at a highway patrol school and we lost points whenever we touched a line. I have driven on racetracks, I have driven my Porsche on the back of the dragon, so I have a small bit of knowledge about performance driving. Everyone wants to follow the racing line of a road and it’s tempting to use all of the pavement. Your racing line is restricted to your lane. Learn to stay in it and be a better driver. Glad no one was hurt in the off road excursion.
Cool road, twisty fun. Car might be lost, but that's better than being in the morgue. I could watch that road level cam all day. No maps or text inserts, or pedal cam, just asphalt & exhaust noises.
Thanks for the great comment. Cars can be replaced but not their drivers. I think a lot of people are liking the pavement cam! Thanks for the feedback!
No risk we won’t! The front end was asked to do way more than the friction circle could give. The key is seeing the situation and taking action way before it gets to that point! Thanks for watching and commenting as always!
Loved driving that section of RT16! Be carful and stay in your lane cause locals don’t! Also I would not recommend crashing. Saw 2 bikers having lunch at the same place we were at the southern end of BoD. They left before us and one crashed needing assistance. Local volunteer showing up dressed oddly ( tie-dye t-shirt, daisy dukes and work boots ) but in a fire truck were there starting to help them. Also if you plan to continue north on RT16 after Tazwell there are more awesome sections of road but they go though some of the worst poverty I have even seen in America. Didn’t know people lived that way. Also was concerned if I had an issue and had to stop in some of these unincorporated towns. No cell service and no local cops in many of the smal towns you roll though that are visibly struggling forgotten old coal towns. It took away enjoyment of the roads to see people struggling like that.
The country around Bluefield WV is scenic but yes also impoverished. The roads are great though - check out the Google map on the channel page for a link to all of our videos with locations! Appreciate the comment!
A 997 will bite!! I had a 997.1 C2S and did the zig zag dance on an exit ramp showing it to off to a younger cousin along for the ride! I caught it by pushing the throttle (read:luck) and the cousin screamed and then said “do it again!”-Me: (shaking/trying to play it off) “I can’t do it too many times in one day” 😅
Really enjoy watching these. The induction sound of the GTS 4.0 is magical. It looks like you’re bracing your leg against the center console and driver’s side door on some of the tighter stuff. Got a peek at the seat bolster and it doesn’t appear you’re running buckets, correct? Which seats do you have? And curious if you would do LWBs if you could re-order?
Good eye. Standard seats with manual adjustment. I had them in a previous car and went with what was familiar. I couldn’t try out the buckets when I ordered - but would consider and upgrade - depending on the long trip comfort factor. We do some long trips - and a lot of hours. Lots to consider!
Wow that road looks amazing. The views on that first ridge look incredible. That really sucks the car was a total loss, but I'm glad the driver is OK. Nice 997's are getting harder to come by these days.
Thanks - great views for sure on BOD and sadly now there are less 997s! They say the 997 GT3 is one of the greatest GT cars Porsche made. Hope to try one someday!
learned a lesson on those 997s. They handle rather poorly. I had a 997.2S and it was the worst autocross car I ever had. Either the front end was hopping around with understeer, or the back end was slewing around. And when the "death plow" starts, it uses a lot of road......
Thanks for watching! That’s the second comment along those lines. I wonder if other 997 drivers who push their cars (many don’t) also had that experience. Your “death plow” is on full display in the video. However, it shouldn’t have come to that - applying the brakes a second earlier would have done it - Appreciate the feedback, the watch, and hope to see you back here often. How does your current car compare?
@@trueview3127 many of the socal roads are much much higher speeds to get the same experience. East coast roads in Appalachian mountains you really aren’t exceeding the speed limit significantly for a reckless driving ticket like out west.
@@trueview3127 yep. For example maxwrist vids on blood mtn or deals gap he’s obviously speeding but nothing compared to his socal vids doing sustained 150mph+
@@jonasbaine3538 his latest one - the guy is lucky to be alive - I think it’s on the Crest. We actually virtually raced Max and lost - nobody watched - but in case you are interested - Porsche 718 GTS 4.0 vs. BMW S1000RR th-cam.com/video/xISTaekMfO4/w-d-xo.html
I'm assuming the lead car acted as a spotter to let others know if there was oncoming traffic but if they didn't the amount of double yellow crossings on a blind corner for all cars in the video was atrocious.
All cars have radios - and yes the lead car calls warning when there is traffic oncoming but as a rule - we stay in our lanes. I see the Red Cayman crossed on an inside corner with site lines but no other cars that I saw did. I will definitely mention it to him. Our goal here is to embrace that we and others drive in a spirited fashion, and to learn what can go wrong. Thanks for watching and commenting. Be safe out there.
Have to agree regarding the lines We've been driving touge since the late 90s and are thoroughly against line crossing If you can't keep it in one lane you're going too fast for your talent level. Take care guys 🙌
@ArtVandelayOfficial that’s my rule as well - I won’t cross the lines. The camera car image on the Magic carpet portion of the video was moved left and right in the frame and that may have given the impression the 718 crossed. Good thread here. Thanks.
@@trueview3127you shouldn’t need to warn people about oncoming cars over the radio, if you need to do that you are driving beyond your limits and need to learn how to hold your lane 🤷🏼♂️
@jrz00 - on some of the tight stuff - if a truck has wide mirrors or a trailer - you definitely want to know that’s coming. It’s all about warning the trailing cars what is coming their way which is a good thing for sure. I hope your group does the same. Be safe out there. Check the video on VA 80 for example - that road is so tight that you want to know if anybody is coming because you probably need to cheat over to the edge of the lane.
Seems like a good question - the real lesson for me was how fast it happened. The 718 and 997 were nearly in total synch until the last moments. Stay safe out there!
Yeah, I’m a stick in the mud but, I learned high speed at a highway patrol school and we lost points whenever we touched a line. I have driven on racetracks, I have driven my Porsche on the back of the dragon, so I have a small bit of knowledge about performance driving. Everyone wants to follow the racing line of a road and it’s tempting to use all of the pavement. Your racing line is restricted to your lane. Learn to stay in it and be a better driver.
Glad no one was hurt in the off road excursion.
Thanks for the comment and for watching. Good to have your experience here in the community. Appreciate it!
Thanks for sharing an excellent video, totally immersive. Enjoyed every turns and bends in the road.
Thanks for that! We appreciate you
Glad everyone was okay. Car is replaceable. Looking forward to more of these!
For sure and thanks for watching! We appreciate you
A good lesson to be learned from this video . . . that's for sure!
Respect for showing this, I'm sure it hit his pride but good to share for the community
That’s the idea - it’s a good one to learn from for sure! Appreciate the comment.
Cool road, twisty fun. Car might be lost, but that's better than being in the morgue.
I could watch that road level cam all day. No maps or text inserts, or pedal cam, just asphalt & exhaust noises.
Thanks for the great comment. Cars can be replaced but not their drivers. I think a lot of people are liking the pavement cam! Thanks for the feedback!
This channel needs more car enthusiasts to find out , this is toooooo good
Thanks for that - tell a friend! See you back here and stay safe out there.
Glad nobody was hurt!
Looks like the front end went light as he entered the turn.
Keep on driving bc I live vicariously through these.
No risk we won’t! The front end was asked to do way more than the friction circle could give. The key is seeing the situation and taking action way before it gets to that point! Thanks for watching and commenting as always!
Wondering why this great road wasn't on the channel yet! What a great road - and yes . . . definitely watch this to see how "not to crash".
Hoping we can all learn a bit from the video. Check the description for more details!
omg magic carpet ride, that is brilliant.
Thanks! I am glad to hear that - I wasn’t sure what people make of that effect, which is some work to create. Thanks!🙏
Loved driving that section of RT16! Be carful and stay in your lane cause locals don’t! Also I would not recommend crashing. Saw 2 bikers having lunch at the same place we were at the southern end of BoD. They left before us and one crashed needing assistance. Local volunteer showing up dressed oddly ( tie-dye t-shirt, daisy dukes and work boots ) but in a fire truck were there starting to help them.
Also if you plan to continue north on RT16 after Tazwell there are more awesome sections of road but they go though some of the worst poverty I have even seen in America. Didn’t know people lived that way. Also was concerned if I had an issue and had to stop in some of these unincorporated towns. No cell service and no local cops in many of the smal towns you roll though that are visibly struggling forgotten old coal towns. It took away enjoyment of the roads to see people struggling like that.
The country around Bluefield WV is scenic but yes also impoverished. The roads are great though - check out the Google map on the channel page for a link to all of our videos with locations! Appreciate the comment!
A 997 will bite!! I had a 997.1 C2S and did the zig zag dance on an exit ramp showing it to off to a younger cousin along for the ride! I caught it by pushing the throttle (read:luck) and the cousin screamed and then said “do it again!”-Me: (shaking/trying to play it off) “I can’t do it too many times in one day” 😅
Thanks for sharing that story! Glad you missed the guard rails and best to swallow the pride on that challenge for sure!
Never cease to amaze ... cheers!
Thanks! Appreciate that.
Love these videos! Another great road! Sorry to see the crash but glad everyone was ok!
Thanks 🙏 yes - good that we can all learn from it too! Appreciate you!
Really enjoy watching these. The induction sound of the GTS 4.0 is magical. It looks like you’re bracing your leg against the center console and driver’s side door on some of the tighter stuff. Got a peek at the seat bolster and it doesn’t appear you’re running buckets, correct? Which seats do you have? And curious if you would do LWBs if you could re-order?
Good eye. Standard seats with manual adjustment. I had them in a previous car and went with what was familiar. I couldn’t try out the buckets when I ordered - but would consider and upgrade - depending on the long trip comfort factor. We do some long trips - and a lot of hours. Lots to consider!
Drove Back of the Dragon last April. Enjoyed it more than The Tail. Also had someone from our group eat the side of the mountain on that drive.
It’s a tight stretch for sure. I hope they were ok!
Wow that road looks amazing. The views on that first ridge look incredible. That really sucks the car was a total loss, but I'm glad the driver is OK. Nice 997's are getting harder to come by these days.
Thanks - great views for sure on BOD and sadly now there are less 997s! They say the 997 GT3 is one of the greatest GT cars Porsche made. Hope to try one someday!
learned a lesson on those 997s. They handle rather poorly. I had a 997.2S and it was the worst autocross car I ever had. Either the front end was hopping around with understeer, or the back end was slewing around. And when the "death plow" starts, it uses a lot of road......
Thanks for watching! That’s the second comment along those lines. I wonder if other 997 drivers who push their cars (many don’t) also had that experience. Your “death plow” is on full display in the video. However, it shouldn’t have come to that - applying the brakes a second earlier would have done it - Appreciate the feedback, the watch, and hope to see you back here often. How does your current car compare?
@@trueview3127
Le chassis m030, de bons pneus, une bonne géométrie et la 997 est parfaite…
En 2004 (avec des pneus de 2004) la 997s tournait à 7:59sec au Nürburgring… posez-vous les bonnes questions.
You going to head out to SoCal to try those canyon roads?
That’s definitely the plan at some point in the future! Truck the cars West and then drive them back East hitting all the best roads on the way!
@@trueview3127 many of the socal roads are much much higher speeds to get the same experience. East coast roads in Appalachian mountains you really aren’t exceeding the speed limit significantly for a reckless driving ticket like out west.
@jonasbaine3538 I hear you - I live a road with a 55mph sign that is really a challenge vs a limit due to the two that curves.
@@trueview3127 yep. For example maxwrist vids on blood mtn or deals gap he’s obviously speeding but nothing compared to his socal vids doing sustained 150mph+
@@jonasbaine3538 his latest one - the guy is lucky to be alive - I think it’s on the Crest. We actually virtually raced Max and lost - nobody watched - but in case you are interested - Porsche 718 GTS 4.0 vs. BMW S1000RR
th-cam.com/video/xISTaekMfO4/w-d-xo.html
I'm assuming the lead car acted as a spotter to let others know if there was oncoming traffic but if they didn't the amount of double yellow crossings on a blind corner for all cars in the video was atrocious.
All cars have radios - and yes the lead car calls warning when there is traffic oncoming but as a rule - we stay in our lanes. I see the Red Cayman crossed on an inside corner with site lines but no other cars that I saw did. I will definitely mention it to him. Our goal here is to embrace that we and others drive in a spirited fashion, and to learn what can go wrong. Thanks for watching and commenting. Be safe out there.
Have to agree regarding the lines
We've been driving touge since the late 90s and are thoroughly against line crossing
If you can't keep it in one lane you're going too fast for your talent level.
Take care guys 🙌
@ArtVandelayOfficial that’s my rule as well - I won’t cross the lines. The camera car image on the Magic carpet portion of the video was moved left and right in the frame and that may have given the impression the 718 crossed. Good thread here. Thanks.
@@trueview3127you shouldn’t need to warn people about oncoming cars over the radio, if you need to do that you are driving beyond your limits and need to learn how to hold your lane 🤷🏼♂️
@jrz00 - on some of the tight stuff - if a truck has wide mirrors or a trailer - you definitely want to know that’s coming. It’s all about warning the trailing cars what is coming their way which is a good thing for sure. I hope your group does the same. Be safe out there. Check the video on VA 80 for example - that road is so tight that you want to know if anybody is coming because you probably need to cheat over to the edge of the lane.
Another great video! Red cayman over the yellow to many times though....
I will have a talk with him about that! Tends to happen in the tight corners when you can see across I’ve noticed, but good feedback! Cheers.
The red Cayman could use more camber.
Will let him know - we were just texting about his dropping a wheel off the right inside corner in the tight section!
I agree red Porsche was driving poorly and most likely above their pay grade.
Why did he keep turning the wheel when he understeered 😂
Seems like a good question - the real lesson for me was how fast it happened. The 718 and 997 were nearly in total synch until the last moments. Stay safe out there!
i would love to take a ride with you guys how can i get an invite
Cool comment - thanks. We have been thinking of setting up a group drive at some point. Shoot me an email - and I will follow up.
You keep crashing and I will keep watching.
But I probably won't.
No more crashing - but I certainly thank you for watching this time! Cheers