after the Kreig and the AUG were so powerful in the meta, and after all the other weapon balance fiascos CS has seen, I don't think Valve are ready to change a damn thing about any weapons. Biggest change we got was the AWP mag cut from 10 down to 5 bullets, and that was totally justified imo
okay I've come back cause goddamn I had to open my mouth xdd not even 24 hours after I said there'd be no changes the price drop on the M4A4 and the accuracy buff to the FAMAS is actually somewhat significant thanks valve
@@versusVSversus. yeah, but the CS AWP is a weird mix of three different versions of the rifle - visuals are the OG L69A1, name is taken from the second rendition, the Artic Warrior (and they technically shouldn't use P for police, this should be an AWM for military) and the magnum rounds were a later revision on the thrid version iirc. Realism on the CS AWP is not quite there lmao
@@BalkanGold or maybe i'm retarded and it was Condition Zero? But it was definitely a thing. And i played a lot of CZ as a kid, could have mixed it up possible possible
I miss the SG from csgo pre-nerf. I took the time to learn the spray pattern and get used to the scope well before it briefly became meta(I used it often when it still cost $3000). It was so fun and satisfying to play with, and few players felt comfortable with the gun so dying with it was arguably less impactful than CTs getting an AK or something. It's kinda funny they nerfed it so much because it went unchanged and unnoticed for many years until the pros finally realized how GOATED it was after Valve dropped its price. I'm still salty about the firerate nerf too, because that part specifically made the gun just feel quite different. It affected the spray pattern and made my practice with the gun not worth much...
I think that I unironically started the meta, I used it well well well before it was meta, the proof is in my steam comments of people calling me ''a noob SG user'', lul higher rof, same dmg, easier recoil and less spread. Plus a scope to peek at AWPers if you need it. I almost forgot, higher first shot accuracy
I saw literally zero people use the SG after maybe the gold ranks, thousands of games and not a single SG user, maybe an AUG once in a while, but never the SG
The interesting part about AUG that a lot of players don't get is how tight the spread is, when you're scoped in. You literally can accurately spray from short to firebox on Mirage, but what ends up happening is the opposite - you overcompensate and shoot to the lower stomach or worse - to the legs.
The real ACOG had models which have 1.5x, 2x, 3x, 4x, or 6x magnification. However, this magnification is fixed since that is simpler and more durable since they were made as scopes for assault rifles used by infantry that need to be handled by someone who just learned which way to point it and may clean it to the extent the sergeant cares, not sniper rifles used by snipers who can and will properly maintain a more accurate but fragile weapon.
I like the thought of having the scopes mimic the awps first zoom level. Adding more weapons to fit a role in the team is what the game needs I feel. Not only is your awper using a sniper but also the scoped weapons would be very nice
I kinda wish i could have a way for 2 different sensitivities with my weapons when im using them, it is so useful for long range and close. Pretty much the reason i can do well with the scoped rifles in cs
Some ideas: - Your idea of putting the zoom level to the same level as AWP first zoom, so zoomed Krieg shots can be used by AWPers as kind of an auto-Scout effectively. - Krieg uniquely suffers in close quarters, its damage could be increased to let it 3-shot someone at close range with no headshot and keep the fire rate the same. - Remove the little animation that plays every time you scope in. You can start shooting even if you press M2+M1, and that really can mess up your spray, as your first shot comes out while you are in the process of zooming in. The sniper rifles do not suffer the same downside, while being better(AWP). - An idea from 1.6, Krieg can get its old fire rate back and then have the fire rate get reduced to what it is now when zoomed in. So, Ts can shoot unscoped at close quarters and then zoom in for the farther targets, instead of struggling with the AK. AUG is a fine weapon as of right now, MAYBE the price can come down to $3200 now that the M4A4 got the same buff, but if money is no problem, AUG is damn good, and strictly better than both the M4s. Krieg is the one that is dead in the water, strictly worse than the AK in everything but the first shot potential.
''Krieg can get its old fire rate back and then have the fire rate get reduced to what it is now when zoomed in.'' That's how it was at the start of the game
I feel like AUG could use a higher fire rate to compensate the lower DPS at close/medium range, or just an price reduce to 3100$ The SG just need 600RPM, or decrease price to 2750$ and keeping the low 545RPM fire rate
I believe this value is the one for awp and scout. sg and aug have a different zoom level so they would require a different zoom sens, something around 0.72
Yeah, the firerate nerf in particular killed the gun. It literally changed how you had to compensate for the spray pattern, and just generally made the gun feel quite different. I took the time to learn the SG and ended up preferring it over AK before the nerf (before it briefly became meta with pros/the wider community too) It was in the game untouched for many years, so it really sucks that everyone realizing the gun was actually GOATED caused it to be fundamentally changed.
@@igniex Same man, it was my go-to rifle for years even before the price reduction to $2,750. Sucks how valve responded when everyone caught on. The slow spray feels pretty bad to use but at least the first bullet accuracy is still there.
I've always kept my zoom multiplier at 1.0 cus I hate it changing when I scope in. Maybe thats part of why I am an enjoyer of scouts, kriegs, augs etc. So many of my friends don't like anything with a scope that isn't an AWP, it could be cus the differing zoom levels throw them off. For me its always the same.
Make it 1x but give an acog as an upgrade for 300$ to get smth close to awp level zoom this would be a fun addition to the same boring buying options there is
If sensitivity is an issue, try creating a macro that adjusts it when you zoom in, but that might actually be a bannable offense. I do wonder how it would play.
All they need to do is allow the option to make the zoom feel 1:1 with your hip sens. Most games I've played someone figures out this multiplier and posts it on reddit and you're trolling if you don't use it. The fact that the sg 1 taps and the aug does not makes the aug never, ever worth buying.
nope, there are 2 sensitivity values in the game settings: one is for your normal sensitivity and the other is for scoped weapons. Also this has already been looked in years ago! r/GlobalOffensive/comments/aoznjf/is_it_possible_to_have_two_zoom_sensitivities_for/
in csgo you could change the color of the sg and aug crosshair, but in cs2 its always green so you cant even see it, it turns invisible on dust2 and mirage and its arguably the most important maps FOR USING THIS GUN SO THEY NERFED IT BY HAVING AN INCREDIBLY USELESS BUG AND THEY DONT EVEN UNDERSTAND GUN BALANCE IN THEIR GAME ITS COOKED AF im gonna go play valorant now
Nah just keep these guns unplayable. Cs is designed as an oldschool hipfire game and it doesnt fit the style at all. Also all highlights from aug and krieg timeline look less impressive. Valorant has scope on multiple weapons and it makes the long range duels so easy for the passive player.
The SG and Aug existed in the game for a long time before they were nerfed. They were always viable, but few people took the time to learn their differences. The SG's stats were the same for many years until Valve decided to drop its price and suddenly everyone realized how good it actually was. I had practiced with it before the price change and preferred it over AK. The firerate part of the nerf made the SG feel fundamentally different and changed the spray pattern a bit. This made a lot of the practice I had with the gun kinda useless and made the game less fun for me overall. There's nothing wrong with rifles that play a bit differently, and just because there are viable alternatives to the AK doesn't mean you would be forced to use them. The community literally ignored the pre-nerf SG for years before the price drop...
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And shoutout to @MartussMartuss for the original video idea :)
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perfect guide for spying on my neighbours
X1 really makes this gun REALLY feel like the CoD gun, i'm thinking they should bring back the extension of the head from source.
after the Kreig and the AUG were so powerful in the meta, and after all the other weapon balance fiascos CS has seen, I don't think Valve are ready to change a damn thing about any weapons. Biggest change we got was the AWP mag cut from 10 down to 5 bullets, and that was totally justified imo
and made it more realistic since the AWP irl has 5 bullets haha
okay I've come back cause goddamn I had to open my mouth xdd not even 24 hours after I said there'd be no changes
the price drop on the M4A4 and the accuracy buff to the FAMAS is actually somewhat significant thanks valve
@@versusVSversus. yeah, but the CS AWP is a weird mix of three different versions of the rifle - visuals are the OG L69A1, name is taken from the second rendition, the Artic Warrior (and they technically shouldn't use P for police, this should be an AWM for military) and the magnum rounds were a later revision on the thrid version iirc. Realism on the CS AWP is not quite there lmao
@@conjim I see, I'll change the comment to say: "more realistic" instead of just "realistic"
I think that valve should consider this
yeah at least a toggle option between 1x and 2.25x
@@ProgazQQ1.6 had 2 zoom levels on the aug and sg
@@_1389_ it had only 1
@@BalkanGold slander
@@BalkanGold or maybe i'm retarded and it was Condition Zero? But it was definitely a thing. And i played a lot of CZ as a kid, could have mixed it up possible possible
I miss the SG from csgo pre-nerf. I took the time to learn the spray pattern and get used to the scope well before it briefly became meta(I used it often when it still cost $3000). It was so fun and satisfying to play with, and few players felt comfortable with the gun so dying with it was arguably less impactful than CTs getting an AK or something.
It's kinda funny they nerfed it so much because it went unchanged and unnoticed for many years until the pros finally realized how GOATED it was after Valve dropped its price. I'm still salty about the firerate nerf too, because that part specifically made the gun just feel quite different. It affected the spray pattern and made my practice with the gun not worth much...
I think that I unironically started the meta, I used it well well well before it was meta, the proof is in my steam comments of people calling me ''a noob SG user'', lul higher rof, same dmg, easier recoil and less spread. Plus a scope to peek at AWPers if you need it.
I almost forgot, higher first shot accuracy
I saw literally zero people use the SG after maybe the gold ranks, thousands of games and not a single SG user, maybe an AUG once in a while, but never the SG
@@MiauFrito yeah, the SG is unnusable, the fire rate is unbearably slow.
The interesting part about AUG that a lot of players don't get is how tight the spread is, when you're scoped in. You literally can accurately spray from short to firebox on Mirage, but what ends up happening is the opposite - you overcompensate and shoot to the lower stomach or worse - to the legs.
the real acog is 2x-4x zoom so i think it should have 2 levels of zoom like awp
that would be very clunky in firefights
im pretty sure its 2x or 4x, not both at the same time
The real ACOG had models which have 1.5x, 2x, 3x, 4x, or 6x magnification. However, this magnification is fixed since that is simpler and more durable since they were made as scopes for assault rifles used by infantry that need to be handled by someone who just learned which way to point it and may clean it to the extent the sergeant cares, not sniper rifles used by snipers who can and will properly maintain a more accurate but fragile weapon.
I like the thought of having the scopes mimic the awps first zoom level. Adding more weapons to fit a role in the team is what the game needs I feel. Not only is your awper using a sniper but also the scoped weapons would be very nice
Its always been so odd to me that everything around the scope for the sg and aug also zooms as if it were magnified
Thats because it just changes fov, instead of actually having a magnified optic rendered
@@Rare_K_ ye I know, doesnt make it not awkward tho lol
I kinda wish i could have a way for 2 different sensitivities with my weapons when im using them, it is so useful for long range and close.
Pretty much the reason i can do well with the scoped rifles in cs
Some ideas:
- Your idea of putting the zoom level to the same level as AWP first zoom, so zoomed Krieg shots can be used by AWPers as kind of an auto-Scout effectively.
- Krieg uniquely suffers in close quarters, its damage could be increased to let it 3-shot someone at close range with no headshot and keep the fire rate the same.
- Remove the little animation that plays every time you scope in. You can start shooting even if you press M2+M1, and that really can mess up your spray, as your first shot comes out while you are in the process of zooming in. The sniper rifles do not suffer the same downside, while being better(AWP).
- An idea from 1.6, Krieg can get its old fire rate back and then have the fire rate get reduced to what it is now when zoomed in. So, Ts can shoot unscoped at close quarters and then zoom in for the farther targets, instead of struggling with the AK.
AUG is a fine weapon as of right now, MAYBE the price can come down to $3200 now that the M4A4 got the same buff, but if money is no problem, AUG is damn good, and strictly better than both the M4s. Krieg is the one that is dead in the water, strictly worse than the AK in everything but the first shot potential.
''Krieg can get its old fire rate back and then have the fire rate get reduced to what it is now when zoomed in.''
That's how it was at the start of the game
I feel like AUG could use a higher fire rate to compensate the lower DPS at close/medium range, or just an price reduce to 3100$
The SG just need 600RPM, or decrease price to 2750$ and keeping the low 545RPM fire rate
1:09 you can simply set zoom sens to 0.818 and it will match your normal sensitivity
I believe this value is the one for awp and scout. sg and aug have a different zoom level so they would require a different zoom sens, something around 0.72
I love this kind of content! Reminds me about my favorite cs youtuber 3kliksphilip
0:44 I swear this frame looks like it was taken from call of duty
I just wish I could use the 2019 csgo SG. The zoom was nice but the fire rate was so much faster.
Yeah, the firerate nerf in particular killed the gun. It literally changed how you had to compensate for the spray pattern, and just generally made the gun feel quite different. I took the time to learn the SG and ended up preferring it over AK before the nerf (before it briefly became meta with pros/the wider community too)
It was in the game untouched for many years, so it really sucks that everyone realizing the gun was actually GOATED caused it to be fundamentally changed.
@@igniex Same man, it was my go-to rifle for years even before the price reduction to $2,750. Sucks how valve responded when everyone caught on. The slow spray feels pretty bad to use but at least the first bullet accuracy is still there.
what pisses me off the most is that scout and awp have different zoom levels, and especially sensitivities
you can make the zoom sens the same as the hipfire sens. best thing I ever did
ah 4x zoom, the r6 classic
I still can´t cope with the fact that darryl´s arms are completely different than the player model (dIfferent skin colour, different tattoos)
they are changing the famas recoil in the next update so anything is possible
1x looks like ready or not
Need triple tactical scopes 3x main, 1,75 side and 1 upper
Am I really the only one that prefers aiming with them to regular hip firing
Valve just buffed Famas and M4A4 a little. I very hope sg553 will get some of its glory back aswell.
I might actually play CS2 if Valve upped the firerate of the SG some. It's just not the same gun it used to be
it has picatinny rail so let use use any attachments we want, i would prefer holosight personally
I've always kept my zoom multiplier at 1.0 cus I hate it changing when I scope in. Maybe thats part of why I am an enjoyer of scouts, kriegs, augs etc. So many of my friends don't like anything with a scope that isn't an AWP, it could be cus the differing zoom levels throw them off. For me its always the same.
Make it 1x but give an acog as an upgrade for 300$ to get smth close to awp level zoom this would be a fun addition to the same boring buying options there is
If sensitivity is an issue, try creating a macro that adjusts it when you zoom in, but that might actually be a bannable offense. I do wonder how it would play.
In my opinion, they should set the zoom level to 0.01X.
1.75 and 1.5 look really really good. I hate the 2x
All they need to do is allow the option to make the zoom feel 1:1 with your hip sens. Most games I've played someone figures out this multiplier and posts it on reddit and you're trolling if you don't use it. The fact that the sg 1 taps and the aug does not makes the aug never, ever worth buying.
the new 3kliksphilip
no zoom looks so much better
2026 before 100k
Thats the scope of the problem right😅?? right???
I know you can change the zoom sensitivity of the AWP but can you not do the same with the AUG or SG?
@1hugpls good question, ill look into it
nope, there are 2 sensitivity values in the game settings: one is for your normal sensitivity and the other is for scoped weapons. Also this has already been looked in years ago!
r/GlobalOffensive/comments/aoznjf/is_it_possible_to_have_two_zoom_sensitivities_for/
0:49 ONE BUTTON, DAN
in csgo you could change the color of the sg and aug crosshair, but in cs2 its always green so you cant even see it, it turns invisible on dust2 and mirage and its arguably the most important maps FOR USING THIS GUN SO THEY NERFED IT BY HAVING AN INCREDIBLY USELESS BUG AND THEY DONT EVEN UNDERSTAND GUN BALANCE IN THEIR GAME ITS COOKED AF im gonna go play valorant now
2.25x has my vote
the sensitivity doesent change what a foolishness
just give all guns a scope smh
is this command cheat protected?
@@lowfatmochalatte1328 yes
neat
does it work on vac secure server
No :(
Or more precicesly it does, but only with sv_cheats enabled
what is that skin?
Sg556 Phantom
Don't fix something not broken
6X OR BUST
I would like 1.25, but would be COD. 2.25x will be overpowered. Stay broken as is for now.
I hate the ppl that use this annoying ass gun in my games
Nah just keep these guns unplayable. Cs is designed as an oldschool hipfire game and it doesnt fit the style at all. Also all highlights from aug and krieg timeline look less impressive. Valorant has scope on multiple weapons and it makes the long range duels so easy for the passive player.
The SG and Aug existed in the game for a long time before they were nerfed. They were always viable, but few people took the time to learn their differences.
The SG's stats were the same for many years until Valve decided to drop its price and suddenly everyone realized how good it actually was. I had practiced with it before the price change and preferred it over AK. The firerate part of the nerf made the SG feel fundamentally different and changed the spray pattern a bit. This made a lot of the practice I had with the gun kinda useless and made the game less fun for me overall. There's nothing wrong with rifles that play a bit differently, and just because there are viable alternatives to the AK doesn't mean you would be forced to use them. The community literally ignored the pre-nerf SG for years before the price drop...