I bought the first album in '73 and "Too Much Too Soon" in '74. I NEVER listened to the critics and I knew what I liked. All these years later, I STILL know what I LIKE and this clip proves that I was RIGHT!!!
I was in high-school. Everybody loved the album but was turned off by the transgender cover. Well you know how homophobic teens are. Think it hurt their brand.
I've always loved the twin guitar attack of Sylvain and Johnny. They would actually play counter melodies sometimes as opposed to the standard rhythm/lead combination. The Dolls were always VERY underrated in their musicality.
All of them were so different, they made the perfect street gang or proto punk rock group! So very correct in their influence on not just punk bands, but forget both ‘80’s metal or some ‘90’s alt rock if the Dolls didn’t disturb the peace in the mid ‘70’s first! Cheers!
Chimps say “underrated” when they are too stupid to fool anyone into believing they have a legitimate opinion. Nothing underrated about the dolls. I did a survey when i worked with Hal 9k & out of the billions of people on the planet, 99.9 percent that heard the first 2 albums were absolutely enamored for life. Holywood numbers don’t depict anything but how well the chimps will believe something is underrated that isn’t
I grew up in a small conservative town, remember how dangerous and exciting it was to first put on that record. It still gives me that teenage feeling.
Loved this performance. I remember watching it the night it aired with my best friend Karen. We were 12 years old and I was in love with Johnny!! So many good memories. The 70’s were the best!!
Chatterbox was recorded more professionally as the new york dolls had higher budgets- Johnny was too trusting of people and always got put on worse labels. He could’ve had much better treatment on a major like the one the Dolls were on- probably would’ve become a household name
But the bassist was “Killer”….. 🤣😉 Seriously, Jerry Nolan is was one of the most rocksteady drummers of all time. He proves the old Jazz saying that a band is only as good as their drummer. (I’m some cases, its not technical ability like Neil Peart, who is a good example, the first Rush album rocks, but they sounded very Sabbath. Then, Peart, came along and completed “Rush” like Nick Headon for the Clash Dave Grohl did for Nirvana. And it’s subtle, but John Densmore is one of the tightest drummers of all time who goes a bit unrecognized. Some classic and seminal bands had solid drummers like the Beatles, for one, the Sex Pistols, the Ramones, AC⚡️DC, but they wouldn’t make any top 10’s of all time. He and Johnny really were on the same page. I had a drummer like that once. They are almost impossible to replicate, and only luck will land you with another drummer who influences the songwriting
@@ECNIV2000 I'm from Detroit (blow the reveille)! *Really, Really Well Said!* Jerry Nolan learned it's not _'holding-the-beat'._ It's *creating a pocket.* And, you can move (slightly) ahead of the beat or (slightly) behind the beat. AND: He learned how to 'swing' from the great Gene Krupa! You were a 'frontman'. So, you know the difference between an 'everyman' & a genius. (drummer) I only played in 'pickup' situations. So, I never had a 'good' drummer. 'Cept once. Unfortunately, he was a professional C&W drummer. It's amazing how different it is. We still had some fun! (he learned '4/4' real quick. LoL~°) *ROX ON!* - Dave B.
@deelux5519 I'm from Detroit (blow the reveille)! *I agree!* (underrated) @ECNIV2000 said it right. Densmore may be the 'most' underrated. Corky Laing too. I would add Dennis 'Machine-Gun' Thompson as well. But, everyone in The Motorcity knows he's one of the all-time greats! So, he'll always have that. Peace. Stay Healthy! - Dave B.
So the story goes, that guitar and Steve Jones Fender Twin amp ended up in a London promoters office. It sat their gathering dust until they were given to some guy for favours received.....From there I don't know where they went. JT was Steve Jones guitar hero and I saw the Heatbreakers supported by The Only Ones? at the Marquee. JT and the Heartbreakers had done the groundwork and really rocked.
Yeah,you're right.MacLaren ,the Sex Pistols manager,was brieftly the manager of the NY Dolls (When they had the commie look,all in Red)and I think he was payed with this guitar.So when Mac Laren began to manage the Pistols,he gave the white,or ivory Gibson Les Paul Custom to the Pistols guitar player.To Steve Jones,who said twenty ,or so,years after the Pistols end,that he selled several times a white Les Paul Custom saying it was the Sylvain Sylvain one!
I'm from Detroit (blow the reveille)! *It's so GREAT to see someone appreciate one of my all-time fav videos!* When I watch this; I always think how sad it is to see the futile attempts to clone the *Thunders Magic!* (think: C.C. Deville.) Peace. Stay Healthy! - Dave B.
I'm from Detroit (blow the reveille)! (After the 1st verse): The guitar neck is dangling way too low. He absently swipes at the fretboard, *RIGHT IN TUNE WITH THE MUSIC!* And that is the essence of Johnny Thunders: *COOLEST EVA LIVED!* (well, maybe after Jimi & Mr. Page) And (like those two) he was a GREAT SONGWRITER too! *D.T.K.L.A.M.F - J.T.!* - Dave B.
Good comment blessed be the one's who have ever heard the majestic sound of...j. Thunders.. sadness for people with no understanding of guitar exalence 👍
Go look at the Midnight Special video - Thunders was phenomenal - running around the stage in huge platforms. Sylvain was way better than I thought. Nolan, fantastic. Johansen was the worst as always.,
Sylvain and Johnny met in high school Sylvain was already a r'n'r guitar player.Johnny was a beginner,he played bass.Sylvain showed Johnny how to play r'n'r. How they've not been succesfull?I hate to say that but I think it is the vocals.
Johnny T and Jerry Nolan were a brilliant team and really shone post Dolls in the Heartbreakers. L.A.M.F. if it wasn't so terribly produced would be as iconic as The Stones "E.O.M.S"
Wrong friends, no friends, protective mom, grew up in a corn field, heck, plenty of reasons. Betcha if ya was born in the Bronx in 1958 ya would know them. There is just no one around anymore to hang with, everyone's a rip off or a blue maSKER.
Punk before punk was punk
So many tried to be Johnny...
J Thunders guitar doesnt LIE
I bought the first album in '73 and "Too Much Too Soon" in '74. I NEVER listened to the critics and I knew what I liked. All these years later, I STILL know what I LIKE and this clip proves that I was RIGHT!!!
I agree 100%
great video
☠️💣☠️
I just bought this album based on what you said and ya I have to agree - I know what I like!
I was in high-school. Everybody loved the album but was turned off by the transgender cover. Well you know how homophobic teens are. Think it hurt their brand.
I've always loved the twin guitar attack of Sylvain and Johnny. They would actually play counter melodies sometimes as opposed to the standard rhythm/lead combination. The Dolls were always VERY underrated in their musicality.
All of them were so different, they made the perfect street gang or proto punk rock group!
So very correct in their influence on not just punk bands, but forget both ‘80’s metal or some ‘90’s alt rock if the Dolls didn’t disturb the peace in the mid ‘70’s first! Cheers!
Totally agréé
The interaction of the 2 guitars is quite unique , inspired and effective
Yes, very underrated. I completely agree.
Chimps say “underrated” when they are too stupid to fool anyone into believing they have a legitimate opinion.
Nothing underrated about the dolls. I did a survey when i worked with Hal 9k & out of the billions of people on the planet, 99.9 percent that heard the first 2 albums were absolutely enamored for life.
Holywood numbers don’t depict anything but how well the chimps will believe something is underrated that isn’t
Nothing underrated about the dolls.
Jerry Nolan...What a GREAT GREAT GREAT drummer...Absolutely Underrated...
I grew up in a small conservative town, remember how dangerous and exciting it was to first put on that record. It still gives me that teenage feeling.
The Tom rolls Jerry Nolan brings to the party in the second verse 🔥
Loved this performance. I remember watching it the night it aired with my best friend Karen. We were 12 years old and I was in love with Johnny!! So many good memories. The 70’s were the best!!
Johnny was the coolest.
Holy sh...I have never seen this before. I can't get enough. What an awesome performance by Johnny Thunders!!
Jerry rippin it on that infamous pink drum kit .
guy had a natural feel for the instrument; hard to believe that he had only been playing the instrument for 3 or so years. could be wrong
Johnny Thunders was a R&R guitar beast....long live the memory of 1st gen NYDolls and Johnny Thunders!!
The Spirit of the MC5 was in Johnny....
I was just thinking i wonder if wayne kramer and fred smith saw this
walt M MC5 were before the Dolls
Avery Adrian yes of course I didn’t say that the Spirit of Johnny Thunders was in the Wayne or Fred. I mean spirit as soul.....don’t you?
Wow. It is true. That exact Les Paul later ended up with Steve Jones.
Johnny this and Johnny that but that beat you are dancin' to is da drummer, eh. Nolan absolutely Killin' it.
Yah damn right!
And just think, he would smash them drums while completely dressed up in suits and sweaters. Whew!
You totally said it. Truth LOUD N CLEAR
Johnny lots of things, don't forget he wrote and sang the F'in tune!
Both are performing with passion and both are great.
Johnny at his best-!!
Great outfit too-!!
Outstanding performance by JT here. Vocals even seem better than some of his later tunes.
What he did later was much weaker .
Johansen is doubling him here
@@pmc220I think DJ’s mic was turned off for this, can’t say I rlly hear him
Chatterbox was recorded more professionally as the new york dolls had higher budgets- Johnny was too trusting of people and always got put on worse labels. He could’ve had much better treatment on a major like the one the Dolls were on- probably would’ve become a household name
Jerry Nolan is one of the most underrated drummers in rock history. The guy was a straight up KILLER!
But the bassist was “Killer”….. 🤣😉
Seriously, Jerry Nolan is was one of the most rocksteady drummers of all time. He proves the old Jazz saying that a band is only as good as their drummer. (I’m some cases, its not technical ability like Neil Peart, who is a good example, the first Rush album rocks, but they sounded very Sabbath. Then, Peart, came along and completed “Rush” like Nick Headon for the Clash Dave Grohl did for Nirvana. And it’s subtle, but John Densmore is one of the tightest drummers of all time who goes a bit unrecognized.
Some classic and seminal bands had solid drummers like the Beatles, for one, the Sex Pistols, the Ramones, AC⚡️DC, but they wouldn’t make any top 10’s of all time.
He and Johnny really were on the same page. I had a drummer like that once. They are almost impossible to replicate, and only luck will land you with another drummer who influences the songwriting
@@ECNIV2000
I'm from Detroit (blow the reveille)!
*Really, Really Well Said!*
Jerry Nolan learned it's not _'holding-the-beat'._
It's *creating a pocket.*
And, you can move (slightly) ahead of the beat or (slightly) behind the beat.
AND: He learned how to 'swing' from the great Gene Krupa!
You were a 'frontman'. So, you know the difference between an 'everyman' & a genius. (drummer)
I only played in 'pickup' situations.
So, I never had a 'good' drummer.
'Cept once.
Unfortunately, he was a professional C&W drummer.
It's amazing how different it is.
We still had some fun!
(he learned '4/4' real quick. LoL~°)
*ROX ON!*
- Dave B.
@deelux5519
I'm from Detroit (blow the reveille)!
*I agree!* (underrated)
@ECNIV2000 said it right.
Densmore may be the 'most' underrated.
Corky Laing too.
I would add Dennis 'Machine-Gun' Thompson as well. But, everyone in The Motorcity knows he's one of the all-time greats! So, he'll always have that.
Peace. Stay Healthy!
- Dave B.
Jerry Nolan killin it.
Sylvain has a great sound. Thunders just rocks the fuck out of this song. Best version, so far found. ❤️
Check out the version from Club 82 on Bob Gruen's DVD-way more intimate footage.
Best Dolls song for me.
Fantastic footage. And a pretty intense Johnny !
My fave guitar player of all times
What a performance RIP Johnny T
30 years since his passing🤍
The best Johnny thunders performance.
1:14 Jerry giving everything he’s got for Johnny.
They were such a good pair
At this minute in time. Check. They were simply the BEST.
I absolutely love this song, I just can't get enough of it
Just heard it for the first time, and then another six times
@@bellywood7688 thats all? 😉
@@natesh-bootleggingthebootl8727 that was just that session
Obviously as the weeks went on i graduated to ten times in a row, then 15
@@bellywood7688 Join us in Johnny Thunders facebook group:)
I've been listening to the dolls sense the first album came out.
i still have my picture disc albums
One of my favorite NYD songs!
Syl playing the Steve Jones Sex Pistols guitar.
So the story goes, that guitar and Steve Jones Fender Twin amp ended up in a London promoters office. It sat their gathering dust until they were given to some guy for favours received.....From there I don't know where they went. JT was Steve Jones guitar hero and I saw the Heatbreakers supported by The Only Ones? at the Marquee. JT and the Heartbreakers had done the groundwork and really rocked.
Yeah,you're right.MacLaren ,the Sex Pistols manager,was brieftly the manager of the NY Dolls (When they had the commie look,all in Red)and I think he was payed with this guitar.So when Mac Laren began to manage the Pistols,he gave the white,or ivory Gibson Les Paul Custom to the Pistols guitar player.To Steve Jones,who said twenty ,or so,years after the Pistols end,that he selled several times a white Les Paul Custom saying it was the Sylvain Sylvain one!
@@johnrectangle6034 Jonesy lol
What an insane performance giving everything he’s got and the sound of that guitar is electrifying. Awesome stuff.
Incredibly David is the only one left. What a band.
There should have been a "most influential" category in the R&R Hall of Fame.....YEARS AGO
HOF is bogus
Jerry. All that chaos and he's like a clock, an angry relentless clock, back there.
Goosebumps.
Pure legend.
Johnny was great I used to see him at Max's all the time. I miss those days.
Mr Johnny Thunders legend !!! What a perfomance !!!!!
Wow they are really on form here! Awesome performance from all of them!
Take a seat David please
Oh man, what a great fucking video! Thank you for this upload!
I'm from Detroit (blow the reveille)!
*It's so GREAT to see someone appreciate one of my all-time fav videos!*
When I watch this; I always think how sad it is to see the futile attempts to clone the *Thunders Magic!*
(think: C.C. Deville.)
Peace. Stay Healthy!
- Dave B.
Best rock song ever.
love to see this in focus
The living embodiment of cool
Baby you hear me calling
The night Johnny became a fuckin star!!🏴☠️☠️🎛🎚♠️🖤💯💔
I'm from Detroit (blow the reveille)!
(After the 1st verse): The guitar neck is dangling way too low.
He absently swipes at the fretboard,
*RIGHT IN TUNE WITH THE MUSIC!*
And that is the essence of Johnny Thunders:
*COOLEST EVA LIVED!*
(well, maybe after Jimi & Mr. Page)
And (like those two) he was a GREAT SONGWRITER too!
*D.T.K.L.A.M.F - J.T.!* - Dave B.
Johnny was Class
sylvain unsung hero on this jam. that riff is nasty
if this is not the hottest shit ever to be on earth - what is it?!?
the template.
Yeah! Yeah ! And a hundred motherfuckin times yeah! 👍🏿 this is rock n roll folks
Sylvain is playing the white Les Paul which would later belong to Steve Jones.
so strange I get a copyright strike on my much better quality upload and yet this is still up...WTF youtube
Do you have the full show?
Don Kirschner's show.
Johnny was an unique style but he’s got his heritage from MC5 and there is well done
Johnny Thunders and Jerry Nolan forever. The ultimate punks when punk wasn't even punk.
Good comment blessed be the one's who have ever heard the majestic sound of...j. Thunders.. sadness for people with no understanding of guitar exalence 👍
johnny = el rockanrol
The best!
Fucking smack. This guy had it all. Even song writing.
Amazing!
Rock and Roll to die for
Go look at the Midnight Special video - Thunders was phenomenal - running around the stage in huge platforms. Sylvain was way better than I thought. Nolan, fantastic. Johansen was the worst as always.,
Sylvain and Johnny met in high school Sylvain was already a r'n'r guitar player.Johnny was a beginner,he played bass.Sylvain showed Johnny how to play r'n'r.
How they've not been succesfull?I hate to say that but I think it is the vocals.
The dolls and the MC5 shaped the rock and roll I'd be listening to 40 yrs since I discovered them. It's not punk. It's hard glam!
Supreme!
Inimitable Johnny! Drive song!
Sylvain rip
PUNK ROCK ❣❣
Just straight out ROCKS fucking great song!
I love you I love you I love you
Johnny T and Jerry Nolan were a brilliant team and really shone post Dolls in the Heartbreakers. L.A.M.F. if it wasn't so terribly produced would be as iconic as The Stones "E.O.M.S"
maybe the single greatest performance of rock n roll ever captured on film ? ... they tore the long beach arena down after this show
Totally priceless
Is this at Don Kirchner's Rock Concert?
Yes
Love SIDs version of this ⛓️🔒🔗
Oh ffs why did it take me till i was 38 to discover these bands
Wrong friends, no friends, protective mom, grew up in a corn field, heck, plenty of reasons. Betcha if ya was born in the Bronx in 1958 ya would know them. There is just no one around anymore to hang with, everyone's a rip off or a blue maSKER.
@@whatcher8151 whats a blue masker?
😂
@@bellywood7688 the Covidiots
This performance knocked Don Kirshner's toupee off!!
Great, but the obvious question is, where can I find a video of the rest of this particular gig?
th-cam.com/video/0ITJzNLdwjo/w-d-xo.html Don Kirschner's Rock Concert...great 70s TV.
WOW! Any more from this episode of Don KIrschner's Rock Concert?!!!
🤩🤩🤩
Looks like Sylvain is playing the Pin-up Girl Les Paul which would later be stolen by Malcolm McLaren and given to Mr Steve Jones of the Sex Pistols.
That this extraordinary, ground-breaking band isn't in the RRHOF is an obscenity.
johnny fucken thunders
Come on give some a lip …. Yeah chatterbox !
Fucking sick
Man Johnny was cool. It's really a shame how the heroin just sapped the life and charisma out of him.
all messed up I got nowhere to go
I sing 'all dressed up' lol😂
Five guys all playing lead
😍
Thunders is great on this, shame he was such an awfull person.
TRES Cool
That isn't David singing this be after left because NYD stayed together for short period.
Top🤘🤘🎸
What show is this from? Is there more?
Don Krishner's Rock Concert. There's more out there. Isn't it Wild??? Wish I'd saw them.
@@bluntsafety Yes, Don't Start Me Talkin' really rocks, too.
А это какой год?
get a room
syls Q too old.jts so future
Jerry Nolan yea