agree with that id get it if they had actual talent but a lot of them dont have actual talent to get them far in their life. even some in the spotlight for supposed talented reasons still dont have a lot of talent and are just a name or a face that people somehow know
MsBettyR. It's a horrible thing to grow up with! And you can't tell anyone. They won't believe you. I follow Dr Ramani and Jill Wise, The Enlightened Target. Both have helped me a lot. Also reading the comments. We're not alone.
You can really tell someone is a narcissist simply by paying attention to how you feel around them. When you are around a narcissist, you are always mentally and emotionally in defense mode. A normal, rational person does not make you feel this way constantly.
Interesting. Makes me wonder if my father is a narcissist or if I'm still traumatized by my childhood in general... Not being able to answer a phone call even though I miss him... Thanks for your point of view. I'll consider it moving forward.
I remember growing up in the 80s and my parents encouraged us to not look at ourselves but at others. What can we do to help others? How can we make the world a better place? When we did well for ourselves, we were expected to give to others.
I feel that is more of having a selfish problem. Real narcissists go beyond that. They'll find a way to hurt you on purpose, where as being selfish means you don't give much attention or care to others and disregard their needs.
💯💯💯 . . . I have seen people get into literal brawls and years of drama off of info they read about from social media. It's mind boggling to see the energy wasted because they read someone's post and took it the wrong way, or the post wasn't even about them. But in their minds it was a personal attack.
I deleted all my apps on 1/1/24. Never been calmer. Now I'm anonymous on TH-cam, sharing opinions and cheering strangers on. It feels much better this way.
I have a preteen daughter and I'm noticing how her 'friends' act so selfishly and mean and I'm convinced it's largely due to social media and having a phone glued to their face 24/7. Plus lack of parental guidance of course. I saw my daughter going the same way while hanging out with them and so I took her phone away and distanced her from them and now she is back to normal, happy and carefree. It's dangerous to not guide your kids. Give them loads of attention so they're not craving it elsewhere x
Not all brats and selfish people are necessarily narcissistic. We do live in a very selfish world, but we're getting better at helping each other more. So we're actually headed in a good direction, but it's not quite noticeable yet.
mean girls have always existed. Put a group of young girls together { or not even young girls} and you get the bitchiness.Two girls will get on fine but put a third into the mix and backstabbing starts to happen. They just need to learn to be loyal and not gossip and back stab.
I did everything I could to help my children grow with coaching during their adolescence, teens ,young adults. One is spoiled rotten and he was told many times, NO. We spent a lot of time with them on weekends and included their friends to keep them away from drugs. One says we were terrible parents the other says he couldn’t have asked for better. The one dropped us when he married his wife. He’s always too busy. I have to switch gears here and say, so many children and parents don’t like each other. Children don’t realize, their frustration may be bc parent child just clash. I can’t relate to my one child bc he doesn’t want to get along. I always thought unconditional love was the answer. It not any longer for me with my children bc once they’re grown, it’s their responsibility to own their good and bad behavior in the world. I’ll state it here which I did on another posts, we don’t make time for quiet reflection, interaction in nature, etc It’s so healing for what’s stressing us out. Make quiet time in nature priority for self and with family Stop the constant triggers of media addictions, business etc. We’ll all get bk to who we were before cell phones, computers, violent, oversexed, shows, stop idolizing actors and musicians. They are just normal people who get desensitized too from the over load of attention
Sam Vaknin said in video of Social dilemma of 2018 "Children who grew up on social media, will have serious mental liftime problems....because thye dont have amemory of normal childhood, lalying in grnadmothers house.... sovcialising with kids etc...Adults may not have such problems because their brain has the memory of real childhood..And somje people will treat the social media or the screen, the same way as talking to a person."....its like you are talking to person who isnt in the room, but your brain reacts in a way that the person is in the room...even though you are talking to an week old comment, .............Maybe people should quit it for a year in order to breatk the circle and create the healthy bonds with people.
Social media is like "talking to a person who went on vaccation" ....and you are arguing to a comment that was written a week ago, ........the person is comfortably sitting in his "pool couch float, drinking some soda "......and you are sitting at the computer arguinng with him.
I was 5 yrs into a relationship before I saw the red flags- some people are very good at wearing a mask, and there are varying degrees of narcissism. Some are really nice, as long as you don't question or challenge them. But put up a boundary....then watch out!
Covert narcissists can wear their masks for years; sociopaths will play the part until they have total control over you, or until you tell them no, and then they attempt to ruin your life.
i learned this valuable lesson when i turned 18, i had known this girl since i was 16 and she was 17 and 4'11 and had gorgeous curvy body with a great chest. all of our mutual friends said how great she was and she was always flirty with me, i had a huge crush on her. i was on a solo camping trip to celebrate being an adult and i was staying in a hotel for the night because i was tired and could not drive anymore. i texted her some stupid meme and the next thing i know we were talking on the phone, we talked for several hours and honestly it was the best conversation i have ever had with a woman, i still think about our conversation once a day even all these years later. we ended our conversation and i went to bed. the next day we started texting and after a few good messages she did a complete 180 and started calling me a narcissist and flipping out, she insulted my mother who was dying of cancer and she knew that because i told her that i just found out my mom had 6 months to live. she told me to never contact her again. i was broken up but i realize that she was crazy and i could not fix her or change her, it has driven a wedge between our friend group, i found out from another friend that since age 16 she has had a new boyfriend every month and always says they were assholes or crazy. our group went out about 6 months ago and she was there with her brand new boyfriend and this guy already looked emotionally drained, my group still thinks she is an angel but i know her true colors. you cannot fix them it will destroy you to stay with them, once you see the red flags run far away
Agree and another point it gives a better understanding to the victims that didn’t know what was wrong with their person, but knew something was wrong. It’s a relief to have a description of when you’re trying to explain the person’s personality. The traits turn out to match and many can relate.
I actually support the idea narcism was always there - just hiding in the shadows of our culture. I don't think social media did it - I think it helped expose it.
Consider that there are MORE PEOPLE than there were 50yrs ago. It wasn't hidden it was called something else like child abuse, spouse abuse, and the classic "mean" person. We now need to label EVERYTHING but we still deal with NOTHING just slap a name on it and move on. It's like autism everyone is somewhere on the spectrum. Narcissist used to be labeled border line personality disorder. There are more people and more mental health issues. Simple really.
Everyone point at others but not themselves.The one big sign of Narc is luck of empathy. Those people do not give know the feeling .If you have empathy you are human.
I was wondering this. I was married to a diagnosed narcissist and it is so much easier for them to hide than you might guess. Most have a “public” personality and a private one.
Yes, they have different behavioral repertoires. They might act one way with an audience and another way when they can isolate the victim (like in a car). My covert narc mom is very good at wearing a mask, but if anyone suggests these types are doing something wrong, causes them shame in some way, or they're stressed... the mask slips off.
@namas yes it is a mental state/ illness ...Yes it is and these ppl can change given the presence of empathy and intense learning that other ppl are there to be used, being shown in a way THEY CAN RELATE TO... tachi9030 So yes it IS a mental illness.. Maybe you don't understand the " mental" aspect.
Yes‼️My narc ex would smirk at me after he did something he knew was wrong to get a reaction from me. As if he was saying: “What are you gonna do about it?😏”.
@@Eloquently_Rud3 My former manager did the same thing to me. He was power tripping & thought empathy was a “woman thing” when I tried to initially address my concerns to him about the way he interacted with others. He was shit to work with.
Narcissism doesn't come from simple ego and isn't built by social media. It's the way someone is born and it can be diagnosed. Thats also why narcissists don't change for somebody and it's pointless to spend your energy on them.
here in asia, there are a lot of narc parents because "what will other people think of me". identity is based on social structure and own family structures.
But actual narcissistic personality disorder is different from "selfishness" or "being self-focussed". Very very different. It's an actual DISORDER that dors not come from social media but from severe childhood adversity.
many are born with it, it is a mental illness. Something in the brain is amiss. Cases are known where mothers treated their child cruely and people in court were harsh on them, till specialists found out that they have this mental disorder, resulting in having no empathy for their own children! One has to find out which one is an extrem egoist because of childhood eduction or lack of it, or someone born with this disordre!
Yes, that's what I was thinking! Narcs try to (sick, yes) form a bond with someone by actively breaking them down and making them feel like less. This is a childhood thing of a messed up way to try to bond to people. Vanity is just the simple "look at me" like social media.
@@Awen_newAis a buzzword cause narcissistic individuals have taking it hostage to cover there tracks, blame shifting and gaslighting are there tools of choices.
I think the number is higher. Many of the self absorbed, energy drainers do not think anything is wrong with them so they look down at therapy. Truly toxic ppl will never seek help since "everyone else is the problem".
@@marytaylor9504much higher, to really discover the actual # will need AI to do a mental evaluation using a spectrum scale. This will give people a social score base on personality trades😉
Yeah of course it’s much higher. To be diagnosed with NPD you have to actually admit that you have an issue, whereas most with highly narcissistic personalities think they’re amazing and that everyone else is the problem, so they will continue to go undiagnosed. Dr Ramani estimates that as many as 1-in-6 or even 1-in-5 have significantly narcissistic personalities.
Worst thing about cell phones is they are exactly like a drug in terms of stimulation and availability for others and life. Like junkies, we sit on the couch, at dinner, anywhere, engrossed in this thing and not others or checked out from everyone and everythi mg else. Basically, everyone around us has become an unavailable sloppy addict- also less empathy, just like an addict.
This explanation is too simple and might confuse. NPD's have no idea where their feelings come from. If they did speak from their own feelings and process them then it would not be necessary to project negative labels to what someone else is or how they should act to them, then they would not manipulate if they could identify what they felt, where it came from and is it really the other persons fault that they feel that way? The NPD has no access to Self to identify. They just react, project or manipulate in their advantage. Because they are far from reality and only want you in their reality, where they have no fault, where they do not need to adjust, where they do not need to process their shame or fault (they are probably not even aware of these feelings), because you are the fault. They get energy from seeing you explaning and them denying your reality, they dont feel empathy for you struggling to show them your angle of what happened, they just deny that and deny your feelings. They often get angry when someone else has emotions, they cannot certainly not process someone else emotions.
You articulated this so well. Thank you for the detailed reply. It's so true and makes so much sense. I have come to realize what you've said. Not a thing you can do but go limited or no contact. It's hard when they are trying to dig their claws into you/your life... fixated. It's awful.
Hmm so at least in the video, she didn’t really answer the question but moreso expanded on the concept of narcissism in relation to culture, not about NPD or psychopathy.
I divorced FB, Instagram, and was never on TikTok or Twitter…am only on YT now and it’s a relief! People are so rude online and no one can interact with decency in person anymore. Young people are crippled with social anxiety and can’t function in public. Everyone is buried in their phones constantly. Social media has ended common courtesy and decency.
Yes! I've been saying this for years. American promotes and values individualism and what's good for someone as an individual rather than what's good for the group or community as a whole. Other countries such as Japan have more cohesive values.
Actually the society that you're speaking of is incredibly narcissistic in their family systems. If you research a narcissist expert such as doctor Ramani, she explains that social structures that are very rigid and collective are very abusive.
The narcissist's god is himself and or herself, fallen with the spiritual Enemy, self centered, lack emphaty, despise others belief, no guilt like wolf preying on gullible to deceive,, don't wanna seek their Creator God of truth, wisdom & love.
Something was changed in Education system by leaders in power. Bible was no longer one in Literary curriculum. Then came other subjects offered as Mysticism, Religion, witchcraft. Home Economics was changed to basic Arts, etc etc
@@sharicoburn5475 thats correct. there is even a study about it and if you just look at these countries you notice they arent the nicest people. But hating the west is trendy right now, so...
This has been the question of importance: how do you tell. I have found certain things in the first conversations but those are not always good indicators. Lack of empathy when you're going through something is the best way to tell. Lack of actual love and care for others is the best way. But don't try to see if someone is a narcissist, let it be revealed. Many times people will see what they want to see when someone is not really narcissistic.
Best Iis to study the different types of narcissists. The cerebral may a bit like a teacher, talking about scientific stuff a lot. Even If Nobody really listenes. The proud, peacocks Like Body postures give them away.
@@Sarah_2905 Again I truly don't believe it's easy to tell even with body posture. It's really a lack of empathy but it's when it's shown towards someone that doesn't really have something the narcissist wants. I hope that makes sense. ❤😊
Many people do not escape narcissism, and when some do, they have ptsd. That's what he did to me, and I was diagnosed with that after the traumic experience with this narcissist. Please, people, be careful who you deal with.
IMHO the difference between having narcissistic traits vs narcissistic personality disorder is that later doesn't have empathy for others. Stay far away from them.
Great point IMHO Males have narcissistic trades,females have narcissistic personality disorder. Is why things or so disorderly in today's society.Of course there's going to be exceptions
@@LanguidAndBittersweet there are things i disagree with in that book. Don't have so much faith in the medical industry. They don't have all the answers yet.
I try not to be that way.. to be a better partner I try to ask myself how he might feel or what can I do for him. I try to notice when he’s off and ask him about what’s going on and just listen. It’s helped our relationship a lot. I hope I continue to learn how to be a better partner and friend
Every person has some pattern which is obviously visible to others .When you know and understand the pattern, you have to deal and behave with them with the same awareness or caution or else you are going to be trapped and hurt every single time. By the way we also have got some pattern of ours 😊
The first is to acknowledge and the second is to get help and re train your brain.Believe me or not that there is hope. We are not perfect because we are human.
These two individuals are great messengers. I truly appreciate their knowledge and service. They have Definitely helped with a more broader range in mindfulness.
There is a continuum. We need to have confidence and self care combined with humility and empathy. When we start to become too self focused we need to pull ourselves back into alignment.
Needing validation is not narcissistic. Validation is actually a very important thing especially for young children. I would say our culture is actually invalidating and that is what a narcissist does they do not validate your reality. The part about lacking empathy in our culture is very true.
Maybe it’s the way the very self centered go about validation. Because everything you said is right. But crazy ppl will get mad because it’s too quiet for example. And start an arguement to feel “validated “ because if you’re upset and arguing with them because they were able to upset you, then they feel like they exist and are therefore “validated”. This is also why so many ppl stick with being individual. Because it can be this crazy cycle, and why deal with it when you just be to yourself?
@@kharakessler1390 I think that you are definitely right a narcissist needs that constant attention and supply but I don't think validation is the right choice of word here
I discovered that I have narcissistic tendencies after quite a few failed relationships, but in discovering it, I've learnt to slowly start being more understanding and empathetic towards others. Everyone has challenges in their own lives that are unbeknownst to you. Everyone tries, some more than others to do their best to get by. It's important to listen, rationalize and only then, to react. Just what I've discovered.
It’s not narcissistic to recognize that we’re collectively miserable because we’ve been expected to consider other people’s feelings before out own for so long and that we actually do need to pay more attention to the “self” rather than the “group” sometimes.
I do agree….however I think you become a narcissist when you only care for yourself and truly say in your heart f-everybody else. If you lose empathy, compassion, a healthy view of shame(cause it is needed sometimes and it does have its place), and all gratitude…you lean more toward full blown narcissism.
I agree with her. I used to be empathetic and a people person. Over the last 15 years I couldn't care less about anyone who isn't in my household. I feel so chilled inside about it. I think everyone else feels the same way.
As my daughters get older they are thinking like this. its not narcissism but confidence in themselves and being happy with their own company and not trying to live up to others expectations or desires. They don't care too much about what others think anymore. They are happy with themselves and their own lives. They're not out to impress anyone anymore.
I was saying this most ppl including myself have some narcissistic traits but she helped me understand why in the U.S especially with each generation we’re becoming more and more divided and everyone is out for themselves everyone on a self love moment it’s just a lot selfish behavior goin on rather healthy or not it’s to much of it
I don't think an individualistic culture is the only contributor to narcissism. I grew up in a country where family culture is a big thing, and narcissism has been ingrained in children whose parents were narcissistic themselves. I would even argue that an individualistic culture makes it easier to walk away from a narcissistic spouse whereas a family culture often looks down on marriages being broken up.
“There’s no reward for being nice and it doesn’t matter who your friends are” everyday I have to financially survive to without laws to protect me. Between inflation and competition, without helpful parents. Those with useful parents or those born before the 70s/80s could never. You’re on your own and you have to wake up everyday to make sure you survive.
Man, you so nailed it I me I me I me they must tell you everything about them how good they have it and so sorry you’re doing so poorly. I’ve been around people like this. they’re scary. Perfect example what Johnny Depp went through.🤘🏻
100% agree that social media has contributed too. I am personally off fb now and have instagram to follow things I'm interested in, not reading everyone's 'me me me' opinions on fb
I believe this is one of the greater Lessons people in general must understand. And then Im not speaking about different religions, Im speaking about how people think in general in a western society.
It’s important to realize that so many, if not all, world leaders have some level of narcissism. And those of us in the States at this time in history like so many other countries before us can attest to how frightening a prospect that really is when you understand what a narcissist is capable of. The lack of empathy alone is what causes wars. Let that sink in.
Dr Rahmini a Genius Therapist/ Psychologist and specialist in Narcissism actually predicted the rise & effect of Social media & Reality TV on Narcissism in society over 20 years ago...in fact when social media began.
There are so many people in our society who are like this today, along with our society being so self-absorbed and OCD with their personal mobile phones and computers, that I almost wonder if conflict-resolution and real heart to heart communication is now becoming passe.
I thought initially this woman is going to have all the answers and sound corporate jargon nauseatingly "together," but after listening to a long podcast, she is extremely relatable, likeable, and she has values that are common sense and jive with a spectrum of classes and tastes. I found myself really wanting to emulate her, and that's her gift. And she doesn't promote uptalk, like today's marketing strategies (vocal fry) and she teaches women to be independent yet professional and authentic, not just feminist for feminist's sake.
Agree with this. Older generations feel that shift. I’m mid 40’s and it’s almost painful the social and cultural changes in US to 10+ years ago. And Gen X grew up very independent. We just didn’t have to label ourselves and then live only to that. We want to be and feel free of all that’s boxing up and stifling us.
This is interesting because according to psychology/assertiveness training using phrases like “I feel…” or “I’m uncomfortable with…” are healthy ways to deal with asserting one’s self, because the terminology is less blaming and more taking responsibility/accountability for one’s own emotions/boundaries while asking they would be respected….whereas I would think a narcissist would be more likely to blame and project their own feelings/intentions on others…
@diegojosue1030 so what specifically did she say to look for to REALLY tell if someone is a Narcissist?... What I heard was a general synopsis of the characteristics that a narcissist, a psychopath or a sociopath may exhibit. Which in all actuality exhibiting the characteristics of a narcissist does not and will not diagnose or classify you as a narcissist.
@diegojosue1030 she even starts the conversation with "When we look at true narcissism, there is certain CRITERIA you have to meet". So sir, what is that criteria?? Since it clearly went over my head
It used to be so nice not knowing what other people were doing or where they were... people sit down, we have to know, they get on a bus, they drop ice cream... like look at me ALL THE TIME...
I went to a wedding last Saturday, and I took MAYBE 10 pics, only had 2 taken of myself. Most were of my child and the bride and groom. That’s IT. And my phone died. No I didn’t bring a charger. And I didn’t bother to post any of them either. I haven’t even been on my fb in…. A long time. And it feels GREAT! I’ll just have to remember it. Like normal. ❤
After being exhausted and taking advantage of being a good person, I have learned that narcissist get mlre out of life. Im becoming a narcissist and lately, life has been better. Sad but true 🤷♀️
I try to imagine if back 30 years ago if someone would have taken pictures of themselves every day and handed them out to everyone. They probably woukd have been taken to an asylum.
Cognitive distortions… emotional reasoning!! I’m a therapist and talk about it all the time. Making decisions based on emotions is really not beneficial.
The climate always changes … the bigger question is how much of humanity’s action are altering the climate, and to what degree does it and will it negatively impact the environment, as well as what to do to prevent it, and what is causing it. It’s not as simple as “climate change bad anyone who disagrees is a narcissist” 😅
I think, as someone with emotional instabilty, I experience extremes of certain feelings, I can be very irrational, selfish, hurtful etc and often I'm aware but I feel that entitlement of my feelings are my feelings. I will let things go a few times instead of working through them and become resentful until i overreact. Like a last straw kind of thing. I'm working on it, but its still difficult
Love for self is the base for everything in the way you treat yourself you will treat others so this To me is not the base of narcissism in fact there's a quote that says I love the world because I love myself.
A narcissist will drain you..: you feel so exhausted after dealing with them
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100% narcissistic are are pure self-absorbed
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Why do you find this above comment funny?
Are you a narcissist?
Bless you 😢❤
Yeah that’s pretty much everyone in this country
The narcissism was always there. The social media just brought it to the surface.
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It did, and not just that, it celebrates and promotes being that way. That sounds like a recipe to breed more of them quickly. 😮
No one said it wasn't there. She said there's more of it now.
agree with that id get it if they had actual talent but a lot of them dont have actual talent to get them far in their life. even some in the spotlight for supposed talented reasons still dont have a lot of talent and are just a name or a face that people somehow know
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So many of them are in my family. They scream to be the center of attention. Have no empathy, compassion, and have zero guilt.
So sorry to hear
MsBettyR. It's a horrible thing to grow up with! And you can't tell anyone. They won't believe you. I follow Dr Ramani and Jill Wise, The Enlightened Target. Both have helped me a lot. Also reading the comments. We're not alone.
@@ceilconstante640yes, I follow them too! Great group of professionals you just listed!
Hugs to @Ms.BettyR, it’s not easy!
@@ceilconstante640 It's true, people never believe you if you tell on the narc.
I know how it feels, my experience is that they never change! I’m staying away from them, I advise you to do the same!
You can really tell someone is a narcissist simply by paying attention to how you feel around them. When you are around a narcissist, you are always mentally and emotionally in defense mode. A normal, rational person does not make you feel this way constantly.
Agreed!
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Bingo! Well said. My marriage was like that all the time. In the defense mode to my husband. It was crazy.
Interesting. Makes me wonder if my father is a narcissist or if I'm still traumatized by my childhood in general... Not being able to answer a phone call even though I miss him... Thanks for your point of view. I'll consider it moving forward.
I remember growing up in the 80s and my parents encouraged us to not look at ourselves but at others. What can we do to help others? How can we make the world a better place? When we did well for ourselves, we were expected to give to others.
And we were better people for it.
I feel that is more of having a selfish problem. Real narcissists go beyond that. They'll find a way to hurt you on purpose, where as being selfish means you don't give much attention or care to others and disregard their needs.
And this way of thinking being nice and respectful to others doesn’t benefit one anymore
Some of us don't get the chance to give because it is STOLEN from us...over and over.
@@ironmaiden4396I know what you mean. I am not allowed to help others because of lies told about me
Social media will be the enddddd of us. Such a negative place, most of the time. I miss when people didn’t know about each other through pic updates
Agreed!
💯💯💯 . . . I have seen people get into literal brawls and years of drama off of info they read about from social media. It's mind boggling to see the energy wasted because they read someone's post and took it the wrong way, or the post wasn't even about them. But in their minds it was a personal attack.
@@numa.kright?!! That’s why I decided to get off 6 months ago … it’s been good for my spiritual growth 🙏🏽🙌🏼❤️
Yesssss
I deleted all my apps on 1/1/24. Never been calmer.
Now I'm anonymous on TH-cam, sharing opinions and cheering strangers on. It feels much better this way.
I have a preteen daughter and I'm noticing how her 'friends' act so selfishly and mean and I'm convinced it's largely due to social media and having a phone glued to their face 24/7. Plus lack of parental guidance of course. I saw my daughter going the same way while hanging out with them and so I took her phone away and distanced her from them and now she is back to normal, happy and carefree. It's dangerous to not guide your kids. Give them loads of attention so they're not craving it elsewhere x
Not all brats and selfish people are necessarily narcissistic. We do live in a very selfish world, but we're getting better at helping each other more. So we're actually headed in a good direction, but it's not quite noticeable yet.
@@mamadab2563 Good for you for creating consequences!
mean girls have always existed. Put a group of young girls together { or not even young girls} and you get the bitchiness.Two girls will get on fine but put a third into the mix and backstabbing starts to happen. They just need to learn to be loyal and not gossip and back stab.
Well done ! I agree .. guide our kids
I did everything I could to help my children grow with coaching during their adolescence, teens ,young adults. One is spoiled rotten and he was told many times, NO. We spent a lot of time with them on weekends and included their friends to keep them away from drugs.
One says we were terrible parents
the other says he couldn’t have asked for better. The one dropped us when he married his wife. He’s always too busy. I have to switch gears here and say, so many children and parents don’t like each other. Children don’t realize, their frustration may be bc parent child just clash. I can’t relate to my one child bc he doesn’t want to get along. I always thought unconditional love was the answer. It not any longer for me with my children bc once they’re grown, it’s their responsibility to own their good and bad behavior in the world.
I’ll state it here which I did on another posts, we don’t make time for quiet reflection, interaction in nature, etc It’s so healing for what’s stressing us out. Make quiet time in nature priority for self and with family
Stop the constant triggers of media addictions, business etc. We’ll all get bk to who we were before cell phones, computers, violent, oversexed, shows, stop idolizing actors and musicians. They are just normal people who get desensitized too from the over load of attention
The problem is social media has desensitised most people. Thats why there is a drop in empathy.
They joke about everything on social media, thinking it's their home😅
People were already like that. Social media has only exposed that. That's the saddest part of it all.
Sam Vaknin said in video of Social dilemma of 2018 "Children who grew up on social media, will have serious mental liftime problems....because thye dont have amemory of normal childhood, lalying in grnadmothers house.... sovcialising with kids etc...Adults may not have such problems because their brain has the memory of real childhood..And somje people will treat the social media or the screen, the same way as talking to a person."....its like you are talking to person who isnt in the room, but your brain reacts in a way that the person is in the room...even though you are talking to an week old comment, .............Maybe people should quit it for a year in order to breatk the circle and create the healthy bonds with people.
Social media is like "talking to a person who went on vaccation" ....and you are arguing to a comment that was written a week ago, ........the person is comfortably sitting in his "pool couch float, drinking some soda "......and you are sitting at the computer arguinng with him.
Teach empathy, especially when young
I was 5 yrs into a relationship before I saw the red flags- some people are very good at wearing a mask, and there are varying degrees of narcissism. Some are really nice, as long as you don't question or challenge them. But put up a boundary....then watch out!
you are absolutely correct.
A narcissist person is uncomfortable
with boundary and they don't want to be
question of their authority.
Covert narcissists can wear their masks for years; sociopaths will play the part until they have total control over you, or until you tell them no, and then they attempt to ruin your life.
Many women who say their boyfriend was a narcissist is one themselves
i learned this valuable lesson when i turned 18, i had known this girl since i was 16 and she was 17 and 4'11 and had gorgeous curvy body with a great chest. all of our mutual friends said how great she was and she was always flirty with me, i had a huge crush on her. i was on a solo camping trip to celebrate being an adult and i was staying in a hotel for the night because i was tired and could not drive anymore. i texted her some stupid meme and the next thing i know we were talking on the phone, we talked for several hours and honestly it was the best conversation i have ever had with a woman, i still think about our conversation once a day even all these years later. we ended our conversation and i went to bed. the next day we started texting and after a few good messages she did a complete 180 and started calling me a narcissist and flipping out, she insulted my mother who was dying of cancer and she knew that because i told her that i just found out my mom had 6 months to live. she told me to never contact her again. i was broken up but i realize that she was crazy and i could not fix her or change her, it has driven a wedge between our friend group, i found out from another friend that since age 16 she has had a new boyfriend every month and always says they were assholes or crazy. our group went out about 6 months ago and she was there with her brand new boyfriend and this guy already looked emotionally drained, my group still thinks she is an angel but i know her true colors. you cannot fix them it will destroy you to stay with them, once you see the red flags run far away
That's a covert narcissist
Social media has ruined society
Weak minds have ruined society, imo
❤🎉YES WHEN I SIT ON VERANDA 3RD FLOOR UP
I SEE MOST PEOPLE WALKING DRIVERS AND PASSENGERS LOOKING AT THEIR CELL PHONES.
And open my eyes 👁 about narcissism
Your correct. 😢
the andrew tates of the world are creating armies of them😭😭😭😭
Narcissm is not going up it is just coming out.
I was thinking about that too!
That's true.
Agree and another point it gives a better understanding to the victims that didn’t know what was wrong with their person, but knew something was wrong. It’s a relief to have a description of when you’re trying to explain the person’s personality. The traits turn out to match and many can relate.
YES!!!
I also think the nastiness of humans is revealing itself, that’s why they say there’s a shift in consciousness happening, a cleansing
Spot on, our society promotes narcissism
we are ....society. So, 'we' have to get to work on ourselves
Unfortunately 😮😢. We're rearing a lot of Narcs. Self centered people So 😔
It's darkness.
The 1970s was called “the ‘me’ decade”
Agreed. People think of themselves first. At least some still have some empathy. The Bible says people will turn that way.
Social media has also validated bad behaviours.
People should think for themselves...not need to copy idiots like Tyson Fury types.....all about me or I'm off!!!
...and bad choices for those who represent us in Washington, D.C. What a clown show.
I actually support the idea narcism was always there - just hiding in the shadows of our culture. I don't think social media did it - I think it helped expose it.
Consider that there are MORE PEOPLE than there were 50yrs ago. It wasn't hidden it was called something else like child abuse, spouse abuse, and the classic "mean" person. We now need to label EVERYTHING but we still deal with NOTHING just slap a name on it and move on. It's like autism everyone is somewhere on the spectrum. Narcissist used to be labeled border line personality disorder. There are more people and more mental health issues. Simple really.
Exactly!💯
Everyone point at others but not themselves.The one big sign of Narc is luck of empathy. Those people do not give know the feeling .If you have empathy you are human.
I was wondering this. I was married to a diagnosed narcissist and it is so much easier for them to hide than you might guess. Most have a “public” personality and a private one.
Yes, they have different behavioral repertoires. They might act one way with an audience and another way when they can isolate the victim (like in a car). My covert narc mom is very good at wearing a mask, but if anyone suggests these types are doing something wrong, causes them shame in some way, or they're stressed... the mask slips off.
Narcissist vs sociopath vs psychopath- the explanation of the difference between these needs to go beyond social media
This is very true..Narcissisism is a mental.health problem that needs to be promptly addressed in education justice and medical system🙏
No narcissism is not a mental illness. It’s a personality trait. With people high and low on the spectrums
Agree 👍🏻
Yeeeeeeeeeees!!!!!!!!
your comment is ignorant. narcissism cannot ever be treated
@namas
yes it is a mental state/ illness ...Yes it is
and these ppl can change given the presence of empathy and intense learning that other ppl are there to be used,
being shown in a way THEY CAN RELATE TO...
tachi9030
So yes it IS a mental illness..
Maybe you don't understand the " mental" aspect.
Social media is a huge part of this problem
HOLLYWOOD and film is also in large part of this issue, glorifying a narcissistic protagonist.
Whenever we blame someone for their problems there lies the problem
Use the problem as the catalyst for change, since they used the same to eliminate our unity.😅
Social media definitely plays a huge part. Tim Fletcher's videos on TH-cam show you how a narcissist is made.....complex trauma, shame...etc...
Misplaced rage. Sometimes it's obvious, sometimes they try to hide it and you can see it only by the smrk of the face, but it's always there.
Usually the skirt is a psychopathic trait I believe
Yes‼️My narc ex would smirk at me after he did something he knew was wrong to get a reaction from me. As if he was saying: “What are you gonna do about it?😏”.
@@Eloquently_Rud3 My former manager did the same thing to me. He was power tripping & thought empathy was a “woman thing” when I tried to initially address my concerns to him about the way he interacted with others. He was shit to work with.
Narcissism is not hard to spot. They love to tell you about themselves. Just listen.
There are the quiet ones too who watch to see who to prey on.
More dangerous tendencies!!! Quite to scope you out.Listening to ways to seek you out. Steal fool and deceive you!!!@@abtaum6429
All men love to talk about themselves on a date.....
@@abtaum6429and they are the most dangerous
The Overt narcissist will tell you, the covert will show you.
Narcissism doesn't come from simple ego and isn't built by social media. It's the way someone is born and it can be diagnosed. Thats also why narcissists don't change for somebody and it's pointless to spend your energy on them.
She is so spot on about why we are seeing an increase in North America with narcissism.
here in asia, there are a lot of narc parents because "what will other people think of me". identity is based on social structure and own family structures.
But actual narcissistic personality disorder is different from "selfishness" or "being self-focussed". Very very different. It's an actual DISORDER that dors not come
from social media but from severe childhood adversity.
Exactly. Even narcissistic tendencies do not actually mean NPD. It truly became a buzzword.
many are born with it, it is a mental illness. Something in the brain is amiss. Cases are known where mothers treated their child cruely and people in court were harsh on them, till specialists found out that they have this mental disorder, resulting in having no empathy for their own children! One has to find out which one is an extrem egoist because of childhood eduction or lack of it, or someone born with this disordre!
Yes, that's what I was thinking! Narcs try to (sick, yes) form a bond with someone by actively breaking them down and making them feel like less. This is a childhood thing of a messed up way to try to bond to people.
Vanity is just the simple "look at me" like social media.
@@Awen_newAis a buzzword cause narcissistic individuals have taking it hostage to cover there tracks, blame shifting and gaslighting are there tools of choices.
Blaming others for our actions and choices is a criteria for narcissistic tendency.
I think the number is higher. Many of the self absorbed, energy drainers do not think anything is wrong with them so they look down at therapy. Truly toxic ppl will never seek help since "everyone else is the problem".
Yes I think that the number is higher!!!
@@marytaylor9504much higher, to really discover the actual # will need AI to do a mental evaluation using a spectrum scale. This will give people a social score base on personality trades😉
Much higher, especially in certain communities & families.
Yeah of course it’s much higher. To be diagnosed with NPD you have to actually admit that you have an issue, whereas most with highly narcissistic personalities think they’re amazing and that everyone else is the problem, so they will continue to go undiagnosed.
Dr Ramani estimates that as many as 1-in-6 or even 1-in-5 have significantly narcissistic personalities.
Correct - they cannot self-reflect.
My ex is an amazing case study. His pupils fully dialate when he believes he is inflicting pain.
I've actually seen eyes turn grey!!!
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My stbx also started with this during her final discard. So hard :( broken
These are scary statements….. 😣
That's scary as it means that he get's pleasure from pain in others.
I knew the moment I met him it would be rough ….. now 43 years later. My gut feeling was Spot On. Trust your FIRST IMPRESSIONS!!
Worst thing about cell phones is they are exactly like a drug in terms of stimulation and availability for others and life. Like junkies, we sit on the couch, at dinner, anywhere, engrossed in this thing and not others or checked out from everyone and everythi mg else. Basically, everyone around us has become an unavailable sloppy addict- also less empathy, just like an addict.
Love this lady... A Narc has no empathy. They pretend but its not there.
When you learn how to see something, you start to see it. It always been there, but you were blind.
They will be lovers of themselves
@@LanguidAndBittersweet the OP is posting a Biblical verse that speaks of end times…that people will be lovers of self, proud, arrogant….
This explanation is too simple and might confuse. NPD's have no idea where their feelings come from. If they did speak from their own feelings and process them then it would not be necessary to project negative labels to what someone else is or how they should act to them, then they would not manipulate if they could identify what they felt, where it came from and is it really the other persons fault that they feel that way? The NPD has no access to Self to identify. They just react, project or manipulate in their advantage. Because they are far from reality and only want you in their reality, where they have no fault, where they do not need to adjust, where they do not need to process their shame or fault (they are probably not even aware of these feelings), because you are the fault. They get energy from seeing you explaning and them denying your reality, they dont feel empathy for you struggling to show them your angle of what happened, they just deny that and deny your feelings. They often get angry when someone else has emotions, they cannot certainly not process someone else emotions.
They can do as if.
You articulated this so well. Thank you for the detailed reply. It's so true and makes so much sense. I have come to realize what you've said. Not a thing you can do but go limited or no contact. It's hard when they are trying to dig their claws into you/your life... fixated. It's awful.
there is a lot of empathy on social media
a lot of people share how much they care
Hmm so at least in the video, she didn’t really answer the question but moreso expanded on the concept of narcissism in relation to culture, not about NPD or psychopathy.
Check out Ross Rosenberg, David Grannon and Dr Les Carter they’re great on theses topics . From foundations.
I divorced FB, Instagram, and was never on TikTok or Twitter…am only on YT now and it’s a relief! People are so rude online and no one can interact with decency in person anymore. Young people are crippled with social anxiety and can’t function in public. Everyone is buried in their phones constantly. Social media has ended common courtesy and decency.
Yes! I've been saying this for years. American promotes and values individualism and what's good for someone as an individual rather than what's good for the group or community as a whole. Other countries such as Japan have more cohesive values.
Actually the society that you're speaking of is incredibly narcissistic in their family systems.
If you research a narcissist expert such as doctor Ramani, she explains that social structures that are very rigid and collective are very abusive.
The narcissist's god is himself and or herself, fallen with the spiritual Enemy, self centered, lack emphaty, despise others belief, no guilt like wolf preying on gullible to deceive,, don't wanna seek their Creator God of truth, wisdom & love.
Something was changed in Education system by leaders in power. Bible was no longer one in Literary curriculum. Then came other subjects offered as Mysticism, Religion, witchcraft. Home Economics was changed to basic Arts, etc etc
@@sharicoburn5475 thats correct. there is even a study about it and if you just look at these countries you notice they arent the nicest people. But hating the west is trendy right now, so...
@@sharicoburn5475yes collective cultures are more hostile towards others that appear different in any way
wow! lack of identity and empathy , this is exaclty what I'm working on myself along my psichologist.
This has been the question of importance: how do you tell. I have found certain things in the first conversations but those are not always good indicators. Lack of empathy when you're going through something is the best way to tell. Lack of actual love and care for others is the best way. But don't try to see if someone is a narcissist, let it be revealed. Many times people will see what they want to see when someone is not really narcissistic.
Best Iis to study the different types of narcissists. The cerebral may a bit like a teacher, talking about scientific stuff a lot. Even If Nobody really listenes. The proud, peacocks Like Body postures give them away.
@@Sarah_2905
Again I truly don't believe it's easy to tell even with body posture. It's really a lack of empathy but it's when it's shown towards someone that doesn't really have something the narcissist wants. I hope that makes sense. ❤😊
When they try to control/manipulate, lie, gossip, etc. is a pretty good indication. Plus, the figure is much higher😮😮😮
correct..
Many people do not escape narcissism, and when some do, they have ptsd. That's what he did to me, and I was diagnosed with that after the traumic experience with this narcissist. Please, people, be careful who you deal with.
IMHO the difference between having narcissistic traits vs narcissistic personality disorder is that later doesn't have empathy for others.
Stay far away from them.
We are becoming narcissistic because we are meeting narcissistic
Good control over social media can be a good place
Great point IMHO Males have narcissistic trades,females have narcissistic personality disorder. Is why things or so disorderly in today's society.Of course there's going to be exceptions
No it's evil me me selfish person
I believe many are mislabeled a narcissist when they may actually be a falsely empowered codependent. Many similar traits but not the same.
@@LanguidAndBittersweet there are things i disagree with in that book. Don't have so much faith in the medical industry. They don't have all the answers yet.
I try not to be that way.. to be a better partner I try to ask myself how he might feel or what can I do for him. I try to notice when he’s off and ask him about what’s going on and just listen.
It’s helped our relationship a lot. I hope I continue to learn how to be a better partner and friend
Every person has some pattern which is obviously visible to others .When you know and understand the pattern, you have to deal and behave with them with the same awareness or caution or else you are going to be trapped and hurt every single time. By the way we also have got some pattern of ours 😊
I agree with her. Me, me, me instead of looking outward. Caring about family and friends isn't bad.
Literally why I’ve been ‘mentally ill’ my whole life - at least I understand it well now the only option is to get away… that’s the next challenge
The first is to acknowledge and
the second is to get help and re train
your brain.Believe me or not that there is hope.
We are not perfect because we are human.
These two individuals are great messengers. I truly appreciate their knowledge and service. They have Definitely helped with a more broader range in mindfulness.
Appreciate your support. Thank you for watching! 🧡
Side note, I’ve silently watched your channel for about 2 or so
Years now and it’s helped me grow! Happy early birthday and cheers to 41☺️
So glad you enjoyed it! Appreciate you for watching.
There is a continuum. We need to have confidence and self care combined with humility and empathy. When we start to become too self focused we need to pull ourselves back into alignment.
Needing validation is not narcissistic.
Validation is actually a very important thing especially for young children.
I would say our culture is actually invalidating and that is what a narcissist does they do not validate your reality.
The part about lacking empathy in our culture is very true.
Maybe it’s the way the very self centered go about validation. Because everything you said is right. But crazy ppl will get mad because it’s too quiet for example. And start an arguement to feel “validated “ because if you’re upset and arguing with them because they were able to upset you, then they feel like they exist and are therefore “validated”. This is also why so many ppl stick with being individual. Because it can be this crazy cycle, and why deal with it when you just be to yourself?
Sometimes, empathy is needed. More often than not, it's a good kick in the ass that's needed.
Our culture is lack of emphaty .
Anyway, absolutely you are spot on.
@@kharakessler1390 I think that you are definitely right a narcissist needs that constant attention and supply but I don't think validation is the right choice of word here
I discovered that I have narcissistic tendencies after quite a few failed relationships, but in discovering it, I've learnt to slowly start being more understanding and empathetic towards others.
Everyone has challenges in their own lives that are unbeknownst to you. Everyone tries, some more than others to do their best to get by. It's important to listen, rationalize and only then, to react.
Just what I've discovered.
It’s not narcissistic to recognize that we’re collectively miserable because we’ve been expected to consider other people’s feelings before out own for so long and that we actually do need to pay more attention to the “self” rather than the “group” sometimes.
I agree self care and self love is definitely important
@@jeffreyquinonez8964 it goes beyond that.
I do agree….however I think you become a narcissist when you only care for yourself and truly say in your heart f-everybody else. If you lose empathy, compassion, a healthy view of shame(cause it is needed sometimes and it does have its place), and all gratitude…you lean more toward full blown narcissism.
There's nothing social about social media. It's like HR, there's human about human resources
Evy Poumpouras is very wise, intuitive, very astute, and very intelligent. ❤
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I agree with her. I used to be empathetic and a people person. Over the last 15 years I couldn't care less about anyone who isn't in my household. I feel so chilled inside about it. I think everyone else feels the same way.
As my daughters get older they are thinking like this. its not narcissism but confidence in themselves and being happy with their own company and not trying to live up to others expectations or desires. They don't care too much about what others think anymore. They are happy with themselves and their own lives. They're not out to impress anyone anymore.
I was saying this most ppl including myself have some narcissistic traits but she helped me understand why in the U.S especially with each generation we’re becoming more and more divided and everyone is out for themselves everyone on a self love moment it’s just a lot selfish behavior goin on rather healthy or not it’s to much of it
I don't think an individualistic culture is the only contributor to narcissism. I grew up in a country where family culture is a big thing, and narcissism has been ingrained in children whose parents were narcissistic themselves. I would even argue that an individualistic culture makes it easier to walk away from a narcissistic spouse whereas a family culture often looks down on marriages being broken up.
“There’s no reward for being nice and it doesn’t matter who your friends are” everyday I have to financially survive to without laws to protect me. Between inflation and competition, without helpful parents. Those with useful parents or those born before the 70s/80s could never. You’re on your own and you have to wake up everyday to make sure you survive.
Man, you so nailed it I me I me I me they must tell you everything about them how good they have it and so sorry you’re doing so poorly. I’ve been around people like this. they’re scary. Perfect example what Johnny Depp went through.🤘🏻
100% agree that social media has contributed too. I am personally off fb now and have instagram to follow things I'm interested in, not reading everyone's 'me me me' opinions on fb
The American show Sienfield was well ahead of its time all the characters were common in one personality trait and that being Narc' 👏
I believe this is one of the greater Lessons people in general must understand. And then Im not speaking about different religions, Im speaking about how people think in general in a western society.
Less me me me and more Bless you heavenly father ❣️🙏🏼
She really explained it in a way that better clarified it to me. It's all about ME. ty Agent.
Her book, Becoming Bulletproof, was SUCH a great listen!!
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It’s important to realize that so many, if not all, world leaders have some level of narcissism. And those of us in the States at this time in history like so many other countries before us can attest to how frightening a prospect that really is when you understand what a narcissist is capable of. The lack of empathy alone is what causes wars. Let that sink in.
Dr Rahmini a Genius Therapist/ Psychologist and specialist in Narcissism actually predicted the rise & effect of Social media & Reality TV on Narcissism in society over 20 years ago...in fact when social media began.
There are so many people in our society who are like this today, along with our society being so self-absorbed and OCD with their personal mobile phones and computers, that I almost wonder if conflict-resolution and real heart to heart communication is now becoming passe.
I thought initially this woman is going to have all the answers and sound corporate jargon nauseatingly "together," but after listening to a long podcast, she is extremely relatable, likeable, and she has values that are common sense and jive with a spectrum of classes and tastes. I found myself really wanting to emulate her, and that's her gift. And she doesn't promote uptalk, like today's marketing strategies (vocal fry) and she teaches women to be independent yet professional and authentic, not just feminist for feminist's sake.
Agree with this. Older generations feel that shift. I’m mid 40’s and it’s almost painful the social and cultural changes in US to 10+ years ago. And Gen X grew up very independent. We just didn’t have to label ourselves and then live only to that. We want to be and feel free of all that’s boxing up and stifling us.
Eve is an amazing woman. Listen and learn from this wonderful woman. Read her books, listen to her interviews. Love her!❤
So glad you enjoyed it! Appreciate you for watching.
I've been saying this for years. The "find yourself" culture has created a significant disconnect from reality. People are more confused than ever.
Agreed !! Narcs are the new norm
The energy has just shifted….we are leaving a me, me me to a we, we we with empathy theme.
You can't tell! Even psychiatrists need alot of time with someone to diagnose the personality disorder. That's why they say reinforce your boundaries.
Beautifully softened look on your interviewee...wowed. Just stunning. Smiles.
This is interesting because according to psychology/assertiveness training using phrases like “I feel…” or “I’m uncomfortable with…” are healthy ways to deal with asserting one’s self, because the terminology is less blaming and more taking responsibility/accountability for one’s own emotions/boundaries while asking they would be respected….whereas I would think a narcissist would be more likely to blame and project their own feelings/intentions on others…
Evy has so much wisdom; grateful for everything she shares
Thanks for watching!
So how do you tell?? She never answered that
You are right.😮
It went all over your head clearly.
@diegojosue1030 so what specifically did she say to look for to REALLY tell if someone is a Narcissist?... What I heard was a general synopsis of the characteristics that a narcissist, a psychopath or a sociopath may exhibit. Which in all actuality exhibiting the characteristics of a narcissist does not and will not diagnose or classify you as a narcissist.
@diegojosue1030 she even starts the conversation with "When we look at true narcissism, there is certain CRITERIA you have to meet". So sir, what is that criteria?? Since it clearly went over my head
I met one, he had NPD, if he got insecure or mad, he would snap and his eyes would go completely black.
That's not a narc, that's a straight up demon!
Nobody could have predicted what social media is doing to the human mind
I agree 💯 Most people are vile nowadays and very self centred.
It used to be so nice not knowing what other people were doing or where they were... people sit down, we have to know, they get on a bus, they drop ice cream... like look at me ALL THE TIME...
I went to a wedding last Saturday, and I took MAYBE 10 pics, only had 2 taken of myself. Most were of my child and the bride and groom. That’s IT. And my phone died. No I didn’t bring a charger. And I didn’t bother to post any of them either. I haven’t even been on my fb in…. A long time. And it feels GREAT! I’ll just have to remember it. Like normal. ❤
After being exhausted and taking advantage of being a good person, I have learned that narcissist get mlre out of life. Im becoming a narcissist and lately, life has been better. Sad but true 🤷♀️
They say narcissiim is 1 in 6 now
More.
Agree!!!
@@TheBigSheepS You're right 💯
I try to imagine if back 30 years ago if someone would have taken pictures of themselves every day and handed them out to everyone. They probably woukd have been taken to an asylum.
She’s speaking facts
Yes. Lots in workplace. We see a lot of it. More now in society. In your home place. In families. Too. It's huge here.
This woman hit the nail very hard.
Very correct and well observed. Might check out the full interview
Agreed
Smart lady, she actually understands.
she look like 1 of them
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Lol fr
Whats your reason for saying that?
Cognitive distortions… emotional reasoning!! I’m a therapist and talk about it all the time. Making decisions based on emotions is really not beneficial.
When you know how to spell it , simple man simple life , simple things to make you happy 😊 ❤
Eroding empathy started with ignoring climate change. We have lost our critical and moral abilities.
The climate always changes … the bigger question is how much of humanity’s action are altering the climate, and to what degree does it and will it negatively impact the environment, as well as what to do to prevent it, and what is causing it. It’s not as simple as “climate change bad anyone who disagrees is a narcissist” 😅
I think, as someone with emotional instabilty, I experience extremes of certain feelings, I can be very irrational, selfish, hurtful etc and often I'm aware but I feel that entitlement of my feelings are my feelings. I will let things go a few times instead of working through them and become resentful until i overreact. Like a last straw kind of thing. I'm working on it, but its still difficult
Love for self is the base for everything in the way you treat yourself you will treat others so this To me is not the base of narcissism in fact there's a quote that says I love the world because I love myself.
I love when experts like this show up
Wow, that's very powerful about the social media.