@@marcohidalgo1101 I know. I was only joking when I said Dr. Murphy was an innocent SURGEON!! until a combination of Dr. CHAD Han being reasonable and an accident that nearly cost him his leg and Vicodin turned into an embittered a**.
His part was hilarious because he’s literally trying to save the other doctors. Patient and the doctor is just refusing to acknowledge because he thinks so highly of himself when we’re all humans we’re all capable of mistakes and we’re all capable of identifying other peoples mistakes and it’s actually extremely respectful to call him out on. It shows that you care.
When I was at my final yr of MBBS,one of my colleague was failed because he was correcting a mistake of the external during the viva.This is the reality and what I have learned is we must hold our horses even if they are wrong.
@@jasonvoorhees6152 I mean in technicality that means he voiced a robot. However signs point to that being irrelevant to his voice acting role considering the robot looked, sounded and remembered exactly like the actual boy did, so yeah I guess the point stands
@@jasonvoorhees6152 Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. It's both valid and not valid in the sense that Astro Boy's outer appearance is supposed to replicate Toby, meaning that he'd sound non-robotic, though technically he sounds like a robot because the robot is making a sound.
So is every doctor show just: Normal doctor: "We will do this procedure." Super doctor: "This is stupid, you are stupid, that will kill him." Normal doctor: "That is stupid, you are stupid." Super doctor: "There is this seemingly pedantic detail that you've overlooked that is vital to this person's health" Normal doctor: "No, we are not listening as you are neurodivergent and weird" *Things go wrong* Normal doctor: "Super doctor was right, but I still do not like him" Super doctor:"[insert snarky remark]"
“you…. will kill him.” how terrifying is it to know that if your were that patient you could die if someone didn’t listen to another doctor and it’s likely they wouldn’t?
The thing is, from this conversation, I think Dr. Murphy is not a particularly good surgeon, either. A good doctor, who wants to suggest changes in the course of action with another surgeon, will say something like this “I think there is a possibility of (xyz) (complication) in this procedure, because there’s a study from abc (countries/institutes, etc.) that shows that surgery is not superior to intervention/medication in this population, probably because of (…) (insert mechanism here)”. Not just more polite, but it shows you did research on the subject (a lot of knowledge in medicine is obtained that way, by reading and understanding a boatload of articles and journals while using the information available on the patient to deduct a right diagnosis and form a good treatment method). Funny that he mentioned “study” just to make personal insult against the senior surgeon. SOURCE: I am a surgeon fresh out of residency, and have made this kind of conversation both pre-op and mid-op.
@@littlejohn8435 If he’s a savant, then he should be able to scour through the medical literature to find something related to the patient and cite that, not “study shows older people are bad”. There’s a lot of way to convince an older doctor to change their mindset, and he chose personal insult. I know some medical professionals who are on the spectrum, and they don’t go around insulting people to change their mind.
Thats what normal people would do bro. In college we learn that to back up our senior "mistake" is by pointing out abc in this place or xyz in that place, so the mistakes could be minimize by not doing some ego thingy like what shaun did
All he did was warning them. Its easy to think you cant make mistakes when you have made few or none, but eventually karma will teach you otherwise and Shaun tried to prevent that from happening to them.
he was right about the problem with the patient but it wasnt because of a mistake by the surgeon, the surgeon decided to retire at the end of the episode because he did not see the issue himself untill in the middle of the procedure.
It's medical gimmicks. While the performers are good, often times the storylines are really uneven. Of course it's not the only such show. Suits was entertaining but a totally unbelievable portrayal of lawyers (how the hell the leads didn't get disbarred or in jail many times is a mystery) - and House has the ability to diagnose anything, even before performing standard tests that any experienced doctor would call for while coming up with such outlandish solutions. They dazzle us so people eat it up. I actually think the Korean original was a better show - and it only lasted one season.
This is one of the thingsI love about people on the A spectrum especially lower down. They don't say stuff like this because their trying to be insulting their just stating in the facts as they see them. If someobne's wrong set em straight whether's an orderly or one of the most skilled surgeons in the world.
Doubt it. My cousin died on the operating table after or during a Hernia surgery. My father passed away after hip surgery due to a blood clot caused by the surgery. Hospitals aren't good places to end up in. 😮😢
One of the most important duties of doctors is communication to patients and staff. This guy, by design can't do that. The pathologist assignment was really really excellent for him, given to him by Dr. Han. He has no place anywhere with tons of patient and human interaction. People wont adjust for you and shouldnt.
As usual in television, the autistic doctor, an intern, is portrayed as a savant who connects his exam of cold feet to a mistake made by an interventional cardiologist and demonstrates superior knowledge of the catheter. It's mindless entertainment, obviously, not reality, but it does justice neither to physicians nor to persons with autism. I am a physician who has known and worked with other physicians who have autism spectrum disorder, most of them on the milder end (what we used to call Asperger Disorder). They were bright people and they did work hard, but were by no means sharper than their colleagues. They were not correct more often than their colleagues, but sometimes one of them might "know" that he's right and someone else is wrong, when just the opposite was the case. Unfortunately, the extreme savant is the only characterization we ever see on the screen. It is a stereotype that is badly overused.
I think what sucks is that the Dr. Han meme really just makes you want to hate Dr. Shaun for his horrid communication, and yeah, during his intereaction with Dr. Han he absolutely was in the wrong, no doubt about it. But its weird how I'm feeling this sense of disgust and disregard for this character based purely off a scene on an unrelated episode. Literally the meme has colored my experience of the show and I haven't even watched it.
I would love to watch what happens when that patient dies during that operation, I wonder what excuse is he going to say to Doctor Murphy, Oh well let this patient die and have a major law suit on their hands, all the Doctors especially the one doing the surgery will be held responsible for this man's death, time will tell what happens, what episode is this from
excellent choice on the character’s robotic voice preparing people for having to deal with android doctors working next to real ones “🤖 I am as real as you are” Yeah I know it’s just figure of speech 🤖 speech is invisible it has no figure unless it causes a slight modification through vibration upon the ear drum 🥸 maybe they’ll do a show about a robot dentist next because this is like pulling teeth
Even when he was a young man, not addicted to Vicodin and no broken leg yet, Dr. House still had a way of insulting people.
Dr. House had more class when insulting people.
@@marcohidalgo1101
I know. I was only joking when I said Dr. Murphy was an innocent SURGEON!! until a combination of Dr. CHAD Han being reasonable and an accident that nearly cost him his leg and Vicodin turned into an embittered a**.
@@marcohidalgo1101 bruh House was a criminal, he had doctors break and enter hahah
@@savagepinksock that's why he said "when insulting people"
😂
Favorite part of the show is definitely when Sean says "I AM A STURGEON"
You are evil!
*Community Notes*
Sean did not say "I AM A STURGEON" in this scene.
Shaun is definitely a bludgeon.
And then surgeoned all over those guys
Shaun**
His part was hilarious because he’s literally trying to save the other doctors. Patient and the doctor is just refusing to acknowledge because he thinks so highly of himself when we’re all humans we’re all capable of mistakes and we’re all capable of identifying other peoples mistakes and it’s actually extremely respectful to call him out on. It shows that you care.
When I was at my final yr of MBBS,one of my colleague was failed because he was correcting a mistake of the external during the viva.This is the reality and what I have learned is we must hold our horses even if they are wrong.
he forgot to tell him that he is a surgeon, that would've cleared things up
you got me 😂
I AM SURGEON!
*that he is a sturgeon.
I loved the part where he said, “I. AM. SURGEON MAN!” and operated on Robert Downey Jr. and saved him and everyone clapped
I thought that was Jarvis.
and then he surged all over those people.
@@tigrerojo9685 and all over the place
shut up and go away please
why is this so funny 🤣🤣
Considering that medical errors are the third leading cause of death you'd think doctors wouldn't be so quick to say they didn't make mistake.
Except in the show Nakank was right
I bet doctor han could convince the renowned surgeon about his mistake.
Good scene but would’ve been better if you gave us Dr. Han’s live reaction in the bottom right or something.
1:46
Nakano: (So you have chosen death...)
Shaun: 🙂???
Yakuza boss
The guy making fun of Shaun Murphy's voice is even funnier if you know that Freddie Highmore actually voiced a robot, in the 2009 film Astro Boy.
He played astro boy in the film.
@@jasonvoorhees6152 I mean in technicality that means he voiced a robot. However signs point to that being irrelevant to his voice acting role considering the robot looked, sounded and remembered exactly like the actual boy did, so yeah I guess the point stands
@@dairycowtv but he also voiced Toby who is the boy who became the Iconic Astro Boy.
@@jasonvoorhees6152 Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. It's both valid and not valid in the sense that Astro Boy's outer appearance is supposed to replicate Toby, meaning that he'd sound non-robotic, though technically he sounds like a robot because the robot is making a sound.
he did? man i need to rewatch it
Then he said “Its surgeon time”
*Sturgeon
@@ulfricstormcloak7629*procees to go to nearest river*
So is every doctor show just:
Normal doctor: "We will do this procedure."
Super doctor: "This is stupid, you are stupid, that will kill him."
Normal doctor: "That is stupid, you are stupid."
Super doctor: "There is this seemingly pedantic detail that you've overlooked that is vital to this person's health"
Normal doctor: "No, we are not listening as you are neurodivergent and weird"
*Things go wrong*
Normal doctor: "Super doctor was right, but I still do not like him"
Super doctor:"[insert snarky remark]"
And the patient is still dead. 😂
Yes that's about every doctor show
Don't forget he's a surgeon
@@tprime2702even in real life a lot of doctor put their ego first
This show: *takes off mask and screams into wound*
*storms out during surgery*
Bro is legit an AI assistance. Bro got his brain from a disfunctioning iPhone 9
💀💀💀💀💀
Nice. Ableism. Love that for you.
Funniest average TH-cam shorts watcher
@@fabplays6559 not ableism, he is just unfunny
@@fabplays6559 not ableism, just plain discrimination
“you…. will kill him.”
how terrifying is it to know that if your were that patient you could die if someone didn’t listen to another doctor and it’s likely they wouldn’t?
I love the part where he said "I am a Surgeon and it's Surgen time!" Then he Surged all over the place. Truly moving.
bravo bince, one of the tv shows of all time
This is cringe
Wait- is thing suppose to be funny? Or is it just disappointing like your life?🤔
@quokkie the only thing here thats disappointing is you.
@@Grandslam245 as if😲😂
I love the part where he says "I am not the one in surgery, Skylar, I AM THE SURGEON"
A guy gets an aortic dissection and you think that of me? No. I AM THE ONE WHO DISSECTS
Now say..my..name.
"The Surgeon"
@@krasnowDD Surgoenberg!!
Surgoenberg: you are godddamn right.
Isnt an angiogram performed regardless when doing a procedure involving transvascular catheters???? And how would you miss aortic dissection...?
Nakanobros and Hanbros shall unite against the Shaun tyranny!
The thing is, from this conversation, I think Dr. Murphy is not a particularly good surgeon, either. A good doctor, who wants to suggest changes in the course of action with another surgeon, will say something like this “I think there is a possibility of (xyz) (complication) in this procedure, because there’s a study from abc (countries/institutes, etc.) that shows that surgery is not superior to intervention/medication in this population, probably because of (…) (insert mechanism here)”.
Not just more polite, but it shows you did research on the subject (a lot of knowledge in medicine is obtained that way, by reading and understanding a boatload of articles and journals while using the information available on the patient to deduct a right diagnosis and form a good treatment method).
Funny that he mentioned “study” just to make personal insult against the senior surgeon.
SOURCE: I am a surgeon fresh out of residency, and have made this kind of conversation both pre-op and mid-op.
Bro, he is a high functioning autistic and most likely a savant. Social interaction is one of their weakness.
@@littlejohn8435 If he’s a savant, then he should be able to scour through the medical literature to find something related to the patient and cite that, not “study shows older people are bad”.
There’s a lot of way to convince an older doctor to change their mindset, and he chose personal insult. I know some medical professionals who are on the spectrum, and they don’t go around insulting people to change their mind.
YOU. ARE. A SURGEON.
I AM A SURGEON. I AM A SURGEON, DOCTOR HAN! I AM A SURGEON
Thats what normal people would do bro. In college we learn that to back up our senior "mistake" is by pointing out abc in this place or xyz in that place, so the mistakes could be minimize by not doing some ego thingy like what shaun did
All he did was warning them. Its easy to think you cant make mistakes when you have made few or none, but eventually karma will teach you otherwise and Shaun tried to prevent that from happening to them.
I couldn’t agree more.
I do not see the insult. Just the series of facts.
God, their dialogue at 0:10 sounds like it's straight out of hollywood
I haven't seen this episode. Was Shaun right about the renowned surgeon having made a mistake?
Yes
Uh oh. I hope the surgical team didn't find out the hard way (i.e., the patient dies)?
@@rowanaforrest9792 no but at the end of the episode he will gets retired
Which episode
he was right about the problem with the patient but it wasnt because of a mistake by the surgeon, the surgeon decided to retire at the end of the episode because he did not see the issue himself untill in the middle of the procedure.
"Don't start the operation. You will kill the patient. The STURGEON has spoken."
What Episode is this?
I’m starting to think Murphy just has a thing against Asians
This is just House M.D. but worse in every way
David Shore lost his marbles during the 5-year gap between House and this.
Quick question; what was the aftermath ? Did the doctor take his advice & looked into it or did the doctor proceed w/ the operation?
Yes, in fact, he retires after that.
Where's Part 2???
How the hell did this show continue for 6 god damn seasons?! Dr. Han deserves his own show.
It's medical gimmicks. While the performers are good, often times the storylines are really uneven. Of course it's not the only such show. Suits was entertaining but a totally unbelievable portrayal of lawyers (how the hell the leads didn't get disbarred or in jail many times is a mystery) - and House has the ability to diagnose anything, even before performing standard tests that any experienced doctor would call for while coming up with such outlandish solutions. They dazzle us so people eat it up. I actually think the Korean original was a better show - and it only lasted one season.
This is one of the thingsI love about people on the A spectrum especially lower down. They don't say stuff like this because their trying to be insulting their just stating in the facts as they see them. If someobne's wrong set em straight whether's an orderly or one of the most skilled surgeons in the world.
Dude, I'm severely on the spectrum and don't act like this. What the HELL...
you have to be a surgeon to act like this
I wonder in real life, if there is really a doctor who is concern that their patient will die because another doctor made a mistake!
Doubt it. My cousin died on the operating table after or during a Hernia surgery. My father passed away after hip surgery due to a blood clot caused by the surgery. Hospitals aren't good places to end up in. 😮😢
Episode number?
He was wrong that Nakano made a mistake, but he wasn't wrong about Artie's condition in the end.
Did they kill him? From the clips ive been seeing this show seems pretty freakin good
was he right? I dont wanna watch the show to find out
Same
He was wrong
@@konamiboyfool LMAO
He was a surgeon
Ahd whats happens with the patient?
I bet y'all have a Dr. Han's group chat
Dr Cringe at it again
So did the patient die or not..
One of the most important duties of doctors is communication to patients and staff. This guy, by design can't do that. The pathologist assignment was really really excellent for him, given to him by Dr. Han. He has no place anywhere with tons of patient and human interaction. People wont adjust for you and shouldnt.
but his knowledge can objectively save lives. Maybe he should be some sort of consultant, not a surgeon
@@bj_cat103 definitely on consultation or reviewing job. Far from the patients as possible.
@@bj_cat103ya gonna be suprised how much people dislike having super docs around 😂. Its mostly cuz they are straightforward.
Which episode n season?
Did u find it?
Really late but season 4 episode 17
Just because you have years of experience that doesn't make you infallible.
I really feel old as I am older than doctor Nakano. 😂😂😂
Dr. House may have been a criminal but I’d take him 100% over homie who struggles to communicate and walked out 2 times mid surgery
Dr. House have problems with being right still I will choose him
I would rather lose every patient in my hospital than let this absolute fool tell me what to do, haha.
Unless all of those patients happen to be members of your family.
@@ShellyCline in which case I'd get them to a good hospital where the staff aren't all lunatics, haha
Off course as always he prove them he was right
As usual in television, the autistic doctor, an intern, is portrayed as a savant who connects his exam of cold feet to a mistake made by an interventional cardiologist and demonstrates superior knowledge of the catheter. It's mindless entertainment, obviously, not reality, but it does justice neither to physicians nor to persons with autism. I am a physician who has known and worked with other physicians who have autism spectrum disorder, most of them on the milder end (what we used to call Asperger Disorder). They were bright people and they did work hard, but were by no means sharper than their colleagues. They were not correct more often than their colleagues, but sometimes one of them might "know" that he's right and someone else is wrong, when just the opposite was the case. Unfortunately, the extreme savant is the only characterization we ever see on the screen. It is a stereotype that is badly overused.
So was Shaun right? Did the surgeon's plan kill the patient or not?
you're old, therefore you are wrong. hanbros seething
Which episode is this?
Season 4 ep 17, seen it posted under a similar clip from same ep
What happends after?
Evidence of superiority of A.I over humans in medicine.
I think what sucks is that the Dr. Han meme really just makes you want to hate Dr. Shaun for his horrid communication, and yeah, during his intereaction with Dr. Han he absolutely was in the wrong, no doubt about it. But its weird how I'm feeling this sense of disgust and disregard for this character based purely off a scene on an unrelated episode. Literally the meme has colored my experience of the show and I haven't even watched it.
Shaun hating on Asians again...
Qual é a temporada e o episódio pf?
Dr. Han would've been more polite and professional
Who was right in the end tho?
the based doctor
Which episode which season?
Season 4 Episode 17
I wonder if the patient actually dies
So did he kill him?
Did he kill him?
surgeon started surgeoning
And he was right
so was he right??
I AM A SURGEON
Well, did he?
Season 4, episode 17..
at work we got 2 people with masters BA, super arrogant
"Who are you?"
"I AM A STURGEON"
bro you guys arent even commenting on the clips anymore jesus just bandwagonin.
I would love to watch what happens when that patient dies during that operation, I wonder what excuse is he going to say to Doctor Murphy, Oh well let this patient die and have a major law suit on their hands, all the Doctors especially the one doing the surgery will be held responsible for this man's death, time will tell what happens, what episode is this from
a surgeon indeed.
A big part of being autistic is looking to facts and talk about facts. I'm autistic and I do looks more to fact, to logic.
2:02 - Anyone else feel like knocking that fool out after he just threatened Shaun? I would if I was in his place
yep in the medical field we don't deal in violent threats or pathetic violent fantasies, you will need to keep this to yourself.
You are too attached to the character
No he insulted a doctor so hes in the wrong regardless of being right about the mistake
It’s Not a threat, the Idiot autistic was making a fool of himself
And that's why you're not in his place
🤣
White guy schooling DEI's.
excellent choice on the character’s robotic voice preparing people for having to deal with android doctors working next to real ones
“🤖 I am as real as you are”
Yeah I know it’s just figure of speech
🤖 speech is invisible it has no figure unless it causes a slight modification through vibration upon the ear drum
🥸 maybe they’ll do a show about a robot dentist next because this is like pulling teeth
Whose voice are you talking about?
Android blud calling himself a surgeon
This show kinda makes me feel better about my autism becsuse at least I'm not this 💀💀💀
Surgeon wars
Which episode is this?
Episode number ?
Did he kill him?
No. He was wrong that Nakano made a mistake, but he wasn't wrong about Artie's condition in the end.