Why is it that every time people talk about the value of Game Pass its only with xbox first party games? When I first subbed to game pass it was never about first party games, it was about a whole catalog of games.
It's really because alot of folks buy consoles for their exclusive games. That being said games like Halo, Gears, Forza, Flight simulator are HUGE draws for people.
Xbox lied to their customers when it comes to ABK. Their primarily focused on CoD and a few others from that catalog. Speak to me when Xbox actually utilizes their acquisitions.
That makes sense. You will be able to keep the games and you can buy Xbox live gold online keys for cheaper than retail so you'd just he saving money in the longrun depending on what games you play. But if you play like the whole library of gamepass games it might not.
@@fightrudyfight5799yeah that’s the thing the difference is not that big in my opinion. So I just take the big even though I don’t use gamepass nearly enough.
@@antbrennan1971 Nothing is free. Get used to it. You pay for food, water, housing, electric, and internet, but your concern is about paying for a leisure activity? Let's get free food and water before we concern ourselves with free online matchmaking. First world problems like a mf
@kendre1302 How are you going to compare necessities (besides internet) to playing video games? It's not on the same level. Also, what I'm talking about is being able to play online shouldn't not be behind an artificial pay wall. Pay to have access and use the internet, that's fine. It's a product. Paying for the game it's self is fine. It's a product. Paying for the console is fine. It's a product. What's not fine is to have to pay after all of that we already pay just to have the ability to play the game we bought on the console we bought with the internet we bought already. Paying to play online is paying for internet access twice. Mind you, we used to have what I'm talking about. You had internet, then you can play your game online without another fee.
@kendre1302 just in case that explanation is too complicated for you to wrap your head around since you want to be disrespectful for seeing a differing opinion. When you order from door dash or another service similar, you'll see what they call a "convenience fee." That fee is there to pinch just a little bit more from your wallet and is only accepted because we allow it. This is the same issue.
@antbrennan1971 just in case that commentary is too complicated for your pseudo-functional brain to comprehend, they own the service. If you don't like it, walk the walk instead of talking the talk. Go make your own service and give it away for free. Lemme know when you make a profit 🤣
@kendre1302 Are you really using the "Learn to code" argument?" You seem to have the same brain activity as Trumps want to be assassin after the event. Just because people use a product from a company doesn't mean that as the customer, you have to enjoy every aspect of said product. Furthermore, as the customer, you have the full right to criticize the product and make suggestions on how to make the product better. Instead of living your life perpetually butthurt over something you disagree with, you actually discuss why you disagree without an arbitrary reason like "first world problem, and do it yourself."
The problem is that xbox should have done these tiers years ago. If you remember Game Pass Ultimate was originally just Game Pass and Gold, just like what Game Pass Standard will be and at the same $14.99 price. Xbox later added day one games, EA Access and xCloud at no added cost. If they would have added a $20 tier back when they added those then I think people would have more accepting of it.
Eventually Xbox’s only market will become adults. How the hell do they expect kids to remain a demographic for them. Many are right just jump to steam before steam catches on and starts up charging
Xbox never wanted to sell to children, what kids games is on Xbox, plus have you seen the size of the controller it's marketed to adults with bigger than usual hands
I just wanted gold then they switch me over to core and now they want to increase the money like they say they wouldn't do because they didn't have much overhead for CDs or DVDs. I'm switching all over the PC anyways. So bye
@@robgable2426 I think they're still going to have Gamepass Core for $9.99/month or $60 if buying 1-year subscription. It will allow "premium" online play for non-ftp games. Ftp games will still be playable online without Gamepass (or at least I hope so lol). Destiny, Fortnite, SMITE, etc multiplayer can currently be played for free 😄
You can still buy only gold..... gamepass gives you a whole list of games that's essentially the difference it's like 10 bucks for gold yall fr ignorant as fuk
It's not just for playing online. There's xbox live gold too. This is for extra perks and really it's worth it. You get all EA games, Activision just got added as a Microsoft studio so all future call of duties will be on gamepass, forza, halo, SEA of thieves, far cry. Most of my games are from gamepass.
I get what Microsoft is thinking. How they handle this moment will be crucial to the future of game subscription services. I fully expect them to totally fuck how they handle this up.
im so done with subscriptions, they shouldve left xbox gold ALONE the thing about xbox was the options. i dont want those 25 games let alone the entire collection of games, only good this was testing out a game but THATS ONLY BECAUSE WE DONT GET DEMOS ANYMORE!!!
Only thing I care about is Xbox Live Gold. I don't play anything digital. I'm old school and like my physical media. $240/yr is the price of 4 games. If you play more than 4 games/yr, how is it not worth it to those digital players?
Oddly agreed! 3 whole dollars a month is a WASTE OF WORRY. I can't get a damn mcdouble for that anymore. Still better than dropping 70 dollars plus tax on a game I might hate!
I agree that they didn’t need to make another gamepass plan, just increase the price of each plan. They’ve added a lot of value with ABK and Zenimax acquisitions. Those acquisitions and inflation, It makes sense they would need to increase the price. What is extremely frustrating is that we still don’t have the family plan!!!! I got multiple gamepass subs for me and my kids and it’s just too expensive now…. They totally would have softened the blow of a price increase with a family plan announcement!
Microsoft should just keep the game pass as is...n add the game pass call of duty tier...cause I don't care for call of duty so people like me paying extra to not play call of duty I'd just not right
It's not just about call of duty. The cost of development has increased quite a bit also. They haven't raised the cost in a while. You are getting day and date releases. If you play 4+ games from that list per year. It is worth it compared to buy them on release. Now granted if it goes up more than 20 a month and the day on releases lowers below 4 a year, then it would not be as worth it.
@@keepcalmbenerdhinata1886 agreed. Just like there's Ubisoft+, Rockstar+, etc subscriptions, there should also be an Activision+ subscription separate from Gamepass 🤔
I got the notification that the Microsoft rewards auto redeem for ultimate increased by 1500 points from 10500 to 12000 for one month. This alone is why I will continue maintaining my game pass.
A different way to look at it is, now you can get gamepass standard and it includes live. Before you had to choose between GP Core (XB Live replacement) and Ultimate which included a PC and Streaming which many didn't care about, for the most part including me.
The biggest reason for the increase is the fact they're banking on people playing on smart TVs like Samsung's gamehub. Those people won't need consoles so to recover the loss those subs not buying consoles they up the subscription prices which is barely worth it now. They only way to make it worth the money is to either allow me to download my paid for games to an external HDD or SSD or sending my paid games to me on a flash drive that I can play from.
@@ricardojaye305 then why keep spending money making them? With game hubs and now fire stick which is not expensive. They have no reason to create a more powerful console than series x. But there's another one in development right now.
@@matthewthomas9800 Because the money they initially lose they eventually make back through game sales and subscriptions etc. And then it becomes very profitable for them. They know there are still a fair few million people who still prefer to game on consoles, so another console is in the works. But they are gradually going to move away from home consoles.....just going to take time.
NZ$28.95 converts to US$17.71 at present. Where did you get US$30 from? After the price increase game pass ultimate remains cheaper in New Zealand than US.
Game Pass Console is not changing to Game Pass Standard. Game Pass Console is not getting a price increase and is grandfathered to existing customers. They are not taking day and day games from Game Pass Console. They have created a new tier that includes online play, so all tiers include that feature, but doesn't include day and date. First-party games will eventually be added to Game Pass Standard. So, you said $8-15 subscriptions are easy to ignore coming out of your account. Well, Game Pass Ultimate was already above that at $17 a month. That seems to invalidate your argument about the new higher price being more noticeable...
Personally lol idc just about how high any gaming or movie subscriptions get because you get tons of games for so much a month whereas if they were new or popular buying them by theirselves is sometimes 20+$ so.... ya buying all these great games in a way is more expensive than getting them all basically for the cost of one game a month Not to mention some subs give you discounts on stuff you want because your subbed to it
Xbox is a company & a console. Xbox is owned by Microsoft but I dont think its only Microsoft that makes all the decisions for Xbox. Since there is the Xbox CEO, Phil Spencer
So? Its gonna correlate with PlayStations Essential, extra, and premium? Essential is your monthly games, rewards and multiplayer access, extra is what essential has but with catalog (their gamepass), finally premium, it has all the benefits including streaming those games, trials, emulated games like remaster of resistance or toy story 3. Sure its a jump, but its not bad. The biggest issue with PlayStations subscription is its 80 a yr for essential, 120 for extra i think (someone fact check it) and premium 160 per yr
Everyone needs to stop complaining if you remember when you were 10 years old you were begging your mother for 10 bucks just to be able to get Xbox live. Now I play 10 more dollars for game pass that I use on my Xbox and PC at the same time. Games used to be 20 bucks. Splinter cell chaos theory was 20 bucks. Now everything's 60. You'll get your money's worth
The only reason I ever pay for game pass was for online play. Previously I payed for Xbox live gold for online play. The only reason people are paying for game pass is because they need online play. But it probably won’t happen because it’s the only way they will make their money. The console game pass is useless since it doesn’t have any online pass. Still regardless of anything. The things I own need to be able to be played online on my internet! Regardless of anything else.
I gotta be honest I haven’t really played first person shooters since black ops 2. But now that the new black ops 6 is coming plus probably more cod games I’m actually looking forward to play some cod again. Where I’m from it’s only a $2.92 increase. I can live with that. In total it’s $18,33 then.
Just another reason why ill never get game pass. How long do you think it will be before we see the first game pass exclusive's where they ensnare customers with it being the only option to play, then you’ll see some price hikes. Game pass = anti consumer trick that works brilliantly
If you are a person that would pay $70 for a minimum of three games per year anyway Game pass is worth it. But they have to make the games good enough to incentivize that
Ray & Jimmy, can you guys look into “ What is there definition of Day One Games, is that one week, two weeks, a month, 90 days, one year ? I think I’m OK with up to one year waiting for a game and if it’s a game I really want to play or it has a progression or teamwork, I would just buy it. Also, does that mean we have the same amount of games and the same amount of time to play them before they get rid of those games. Or is that different as well ? Because if it’s just day, one games and you have to wait a year, I’m OK with that. There’s so many games to play. I would just get the lesser tier.
You’re spot on! Yeah, Microsoft hates New Zealand. Idk why. Regardless, the fact of the matter is that Xbox has been doing so terribly against their competitors that they need to charge what few customers they have left more money to reduce their financial losses. Microsoft seemingly views New Zealand as their best targets for right now. Stay turned for more to come…
I had a Xbox Series S and Gamepass unless you like Indies and old games it might not be for you. Not saying I don't like Indies but I'm not heavily into Indy games either. Xbox needs to go even further and utilize their acquisitions. Put the ABK catalog on Gamepass.
I am going to cancell my gamepass from now on. I am an offline singleplayer gamer. And gamepass console were the sweet spot for me, for the price. I have put the games I like in my wishlist, and will buy them from now on.
I can kind of understand the increase in price. Kind of. What I don’t understand is why they went from 3 simple tiers to … what 5 of them now? 3 made sense - Console, PC, Both.
You kinda forgot Xbox Game pass Core for 10 bucks in the US or 75 bucks a year. It is what XBox Live Gold has been: online multiplayer plus some games (25).
I have been subscribed for a while, and haven't turned on my Xbox for almost a year. I was being billed monthly for Ultimate. The price increase was exactly the nudge I needed to cancel my subscription. Thanks Microshaft!
Question. We purchase our games but have to usually be online in order to play them. If someone stops paying for their game pass, do they lose the ability to play all their purchased games? Not being able to download the entire game for offline drives me nuts.
@@DrSchmerz You can still download and play all of your purchased games without game pass. You have never needed game pass just to play your own games.
I can see myself playing my ps 5 more with its exclusives that dont require the internet to play. For me theres not been any exclusives on xbox to warrent gamepass, or any decent games for that matter.
and here was me complaining about spending £1 a month for the gamepass on new accounts 😂 NEVER pay for developers promises only pay for what is delivered WHEN it is delivered
If you think Xbox or game pass is dying, it just fundamentally shows your lack of understanding when it comes to business! Xbox is in a industry leading position right now. They have already changed gaming forever they literally have Sony playing catch up and as of right now they have no response to what Xbox is doing! Xbox is forcing Sony to spend so much money on their infrastructure that they had to slow down on releasing games. People haven't been paying attention to that, but Sony is in a weird position right now where they have to pretty much restructure their entire business model! But no people only want to talk about Xbox dying which no indicator points to that! In the next 3 or 4 years game pass is going to be the best service in the world and that's because we're finally about to start getting so many games! And Xbox knows they can't mess up anymore. Red Fall was an absolute disgrace! And really the only thing an Xbox fan has to be mad about everything else Xbox is killing. They just need to stay on the path! They also need to kill their ex-cloud game streaming service because that shit is bad and laggy stadia was obviously the best. They had the best infrastructure for game streaming with virtually zero lag! You can't play a single game with Xbox game streaming their servers clearly can't handle it! You try to play Forza horizon 5 on that crap you will not be able to get 19th in a 20 place race! I tried to play The Witcher 3 man I'm telling you, you literally can't even play the game! Xcloud is an embarrassment!
Absolutely right. $20 is way too much. I’m comparing it to Netflix (the standard). Netflix it totally worth their price 💯. Before you said I was going to be grandfather in, I was seriously going to cancel.
I aint paying no 20 bucks a month. Just got a bunch of nice games on summer steam sale for pennies on the dollar, gonna be gaming on pc and steam deck, BUCK XBOX
@@brostenen such an easy fix for those older CODs, simply create new separate servers from the old gen and convert to script with new gen but they’ll prolly go the Pokémon route and force you to play the new ones by making the old ones inaccessible :/
@@GrimShleeper I were referring to hardware emulators on newer systems. Not easy to get PPC code running on X86 platform. As to why the best Ps3 emulator, runs on Intel only. You really have to use bare metal translation layer for it to work. Like the difference between Pistorm and EMU68.
I just don’t see them adding all the old COD’s anytime soon cause they don’t want to possibly damage there player base for BO 6 by having ppl spread out across a bunch of old editions
$20/mo 😂😂😂 I do pay for it but it’s so funny because people say ps+ too expensive. $240/yr for Game Pass. While it’s $159.99/yr for PS+ Premium. I personally prefer the games on PS+ more than Xbox but my buddy and I play co-op story based games together on the weekend so we try to find a game on game pass we can play together.
If someone is struggling to decide if they can handle a $20mth service maybe they should stop gaming until they can improve their situation. Gaming shouldn't b on the top of someones priority list if a $3mth increase I'd a struggle
Hey, I've read that forza horizon 4 will be on sale starting 14th july, but the sale hasn't started, so is it gonne start in the next days or is it cancelled. Wasn't able to find information, maybe you know
Why is it that every time people talk about the value of Game Pass its only with xbox first party games? When I first subbed to game pass it was never about first party games, it was about a whole catalog of games.
I subbed for Yakuza.
I subbed for stuff like decenders and payday 3....I know I made a mistake but I like the stealth system
It's really because alot of folks buy consoles for their exclusive games. That being said games like Halo, Gears, Forza, Flight simulator are HUGE draws for people.
Xbox lied to their customers when it comes to ABK. Their primarily focused on CoD and a few others from that catalog. Speak to me when Xbox actually utilizes their acquisitions.
It was a bunch of games your right🎉 Xbox we up
It should be Xbox Gamepass Ultimate+ Activision $19.99 and Xbox Gampass Ultimate $14.99 🥺
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People would still complain
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@@bigcountry4287they’d be less justified though.
I’m at a point. Where I’d just cancel my subscriptions and just go back to buying my games physically
And then pay standard for online multiplayer?
@@fightrudyfight5799honestly yea or maybe not. I only play one game online and that’s battlefield. The other games I own are all single player.
Buy your games physically or digitally whatever you love best & get Xbox live gold for a year
That makes sense. You will be able to keep the games and you can buy Xbox live gold online keys for cheaper than retail so you'd just he saving money in the longrun depending on what games you play. But if you play like the whole library of gamepass games it might not.
@@fightrudyfight5799yeah that’s the thing the difference is not that big in my opinion. So I just take the big even though I don’t use gamepass nearly enough.
Everyone downgrade, and then they might just switch it back.
This wouldn't be an issue if playing online was free.
@@antbrennan1971 Nothing is free. Get used to it. You pay for food, water, housing, electric, and internet, but your concern is about paying for a leisure activity? Let's get free food and water before we concern ourselves with free online matchmaking. First world problems like a mf
@kendre1302 How are you going to compare necessities (besides internet) to playing video games? It's not on the same level. Also, what I'm talking about is being able to play online shouldn't not be behind an artificial pay wall. Pay to have access and use the internet, that's fine. It's a product. Paying for the game it's self is fine. It's a product. Paying for the console is fine. It's a product. What's not fine is to have to pay after all of that we already pay just to have the ability to play the game we bought on the console we bought with the internet we bought already. Paying to play online is paying for internet access twice. Mind you, we used to have what I'm talking about. You had internet, then you can play your game online without another fee.
@kendre1302 just in case that explanation is too complicated for you to wrap your head around since you want to be disrespectful for seeing a differing opinion. When you order from door dash or another service similar, you'll see what they call a "convenience fee." That fee is there to pinch just a little bit more from your wallet and is only accepted because we allow it. This is the same issue.
@antbrennan1971 just in case that commentary is too complicated for your pseudo-functional brain to comprehend, they own the service. If you don't like it, walk the walk instead of talking the talk. Go make your own service and give it away for free. Lemme know when you make a profit 🤣
@kendre1302 Are you really using the "Learn to code" argument?" You seem to have the same brain activity as Trumps want to be assassin after the event. Just because people use a product from a company doesn't mean that as the customer, you have to enjoy every aspect of said product. Furthermore, as the customer, you have the full right to criticize the product and make suggestions on how to make the product better. Instead of living your life perpetually butthurt over something you disagree with, you actually discuss why you disagree without an arbitrary reason like "first world problem, and do it yourself."
The problem is that xbox should have done these tiers years ago. If you remember Game Pass Ultimate was originally just Game Pass and Gold, just like what Game Pass Standard will be and at the same $14.99 price. Xbox later added day one games, EA Access and xCloud at no added cost. If they would have added a $20 tier back when they added those then I think people would have more accepting of it.
It was Xbox Live. Then came live gold. Then gamepass.
Eventually Xbox’s only market will become adults. How the hell do they expect kids to remain a demographic for them. Many are right just jump to steam before steam catches on and starts up charging
Can you not have a couple of family users as part of subscription?
I’m sure there’s gonna be games like Fortnite and others that don’t require game pass or live to play
Xbox always been after the adult gamers. Nothing new here
Xbox never wanted to sell to children, what kids games is on Xbox, plus have you seen the size of the controller it's marketed to adults with bigger than usual hands
Just need a Xbox Live again…don’t get enough out of Gamepass 💯
Right it's a scam
XBox Core = XBox Live now.
I just wanted gold then they switch me over to core and now they want to increase the money like they say they wouldn't do because they didn't have much overhead for CDs or DVDs. I'm switching all over the PC anyways. So bye
I'm Not Paying $15 a Month Just to play Online!!!!!!!!
@@robgable2426 I think they're still going to have Gamepass Core for $9.99/month or $60 if buying 1-year subscription. It will allow "premium" online play for non-ftp games. Ftp games will still be playable online without Gamepass (or at least I hope so lol). Destiny, Fortnite, SMITE, etc multiplayer can currently be played for free 😄
You can still buy only gold..... gamepass gives you a whole list of games that's essentially the difference it's like 10 bucks for gold yall fr ignorant as fuk
It's not just for playing online. There's xbox live gold too. This is for extra perks and really it's worth it. You get all EA games, Activision just got added as a Microsoft studio so all future call of duties will be on gamepass, forza, halo, SEA of thieves, far cry. Most of my games are from gamepass.
@@Michaelangelokowski How much are They Paying You??
@robgable2426 nothing. The amount of games I download makes it worth it, plus they carry over to my pc
I get what Microsoft is thinking. How they handle this moment will be crucial to the future of game subscription services.
I fully expect them to totally fuck how they handle this up.
What the hell man?!?! With them doing that I want more RPG.
im so done with subscriptions, they shouldve left xbox gold ALONE the thing about xbox was the options. i dont want those 25 games let alone the entire collection of games, only good this was testing out a game but THATS ONLY BECAUSE WE DONT GET DEMOS ANYMORE!!!
Only thing I care about is Xbox Live Gold. I don't play anything digital. I'm old school and like my physical media. $240/yr is the price of 4 games. If you play more than 4 games/yr, how is it not worth it to those digital players?
100$ is fair for ultimate for a year
Oddly agreed! 3 whole dollars a month is a WASTE OF WORRY. I can't get a damn mcdouble for that anymore. Still better than dropping 70 dollars plus tax on a game I might hate!
They are better than Sony but yes Microsoft is breaking more than one promise they told us
I agree that they didn’t need to make another gamepass plan, just increase the price of each plan. They’ve added a lot of value with ABK and Zenimax acquisitions. Those acquisitions and inflation, It makes sense they would need to increase the price. What is extremely frustrating is that we still don’t have the family plan!!!! I got multiple gamepass subs for me and my kids and it’s just too expensive now…. They totally would have softened the blow of a price increase with a family plan announcement!
Microsoft should just keep the game pass as is...n add the game pass call of duty tier...cause I don't care for call of duty so people like me paying extra to not play call of duty I'd just not right
It's not just about call of duty. The cost of development has increased quite a bit also. They haven't raised the cost in a while. You are getting day and date releases. If you play 4+ games from that list per year. It is worth it compared to buy them on release. Now granted if it goes up more than 20 a month and the day on releases lowers below 4 a year, then it would not be as worth it.
@@keepcalmbenerdhinata1886 agreed. Just like there's Ubisoft+, Rockstar+, etc subscriptions, there should also be an Activision+ subscription separate from Gamepass 🤔
When I live in New Zealand 😢
Same 🙃
Well south Africa is expected to see an increase of over 50% from R129 to R200
Its really not bad, in america its like 400 rand
R 2 400 a year not bad. Price of two new games.
I think they're just structuring for a generation without a console, where xbox will be a streaming service like Netflix.
If everyone understood the rewards program you can get 3 7 dollars a month back in rewards and turn that into money
Yep, I can buy a new console with the points I've accumulated over the years.
@martyk656 My buddy paid 17 dollars for a 400 headset he collected and he is back up to that much again
Or join the Xbox ambassador program
You can how ?
Can somebody quickly explain how this is possible? Ive been playing on game pass since 2020 and have only earned like 12k points....
Xbox has the best offer vs ps demo's tiers 😂
I got the notification that the Microsoft rewards auto redeem for ultimate increased by 1500 points from 10500 to 12000 for one month. This alone is why I will continue maintaining my game pass.
A different way to look at it is, now you can get gamepass standard and it includes live. Before you had to choose between GP Core (XB Live replacement) and Ultimate which included a PC and Streaming which many didn't care about, for the most part including me.
Microsoft Rewards also helps make the price increase more tolerable, I basically get around 2-3 months of GPU for free every year for 5-7 mins a day.
i'm in canada i already pay over $21
maybe they should have made it where game pass subscription users can play bo6 for a week then they can buy it at a discount
Heck of a time to raise the price. You need cable or fiber net to really use game pass. So you're out $50-$100 before cost of game pass.
You mean cloud gaming?
@@iwams1 yes for cloud gaming. You would be surprised how many gigs add up quickly for 1080p quality streams.
@@iwams1For everything that's Game Pass. You need a half way ISP to do anything with that service. Don't get me started on the monthly data caps.
They should get rid of all gamepasses, make the internet free and just have good sales. Make it like the 360 where games are only for xbox and not PC.
I'm just happy that I bought a PC instead of a Console.
I bought both and use ultimate so can use on both. PC is way faster but it was much more expensive.
Why are you leaving comments on a Xbox channel ?? Bunch of weirdos
So your glad on getting a pc and getting scammed ?
It's cool to know that for 1/5 of what you paid I will be able to play latest games for longer than you 😂
I don't care cause I'm gonna pay it since I play games. But what I want is the option to pay for a year over monthly or 3 months
Sales might increase if you made it more worth it, not less.
Just pay for ultimate! Still saves a shit load of money and helps with back logs of games for our busy lives...
The biggest reason for the increase is the fact they're banking on people playing on smart TVs like Samsung's gamehub. Those people won't need consoles so to recover the loss those subs not buying consoles they up the subscription prices which is barely worth it now. They only way to make it worth the money is to either allow me to download my paid for games to an external HDD or SSD or sending my paid games to me on a flash drive that I can play from.
In general, consoles are sold at a loss. MS make no money from console sales, they lose money.
@@ricardojaye305 then why keep spending money making them? With game hubs and now fire stick which is not expensive. They have no reason to create a more powerful console than series x. But there's another one in development right now.
@@matthewthomas9800 Because the money they initially lose they eventually make back through game sales and subscriptions etc. And then it becomes very profitable for them.
They know there are still a fair few million people who still prefer to game on consoles, so another console is in the works. But they are gradually going to move away from home consoles.....just going to take time.
NZ$28.95 converts to US$17.71 at present. Where did you get US$30 from? After the price increase game pass ultimate remains cheaper in New Zealand than US.
Game Pass Console is not changing to Game Pass Standard. Game Pass Console is not getting a price increase and is grandfathered to existing customers.
They are not taking day and day games from Game Pass Console. They have created a new tier that includes online play, so all tiers include that feature, but doesn't include day and date. First-party games will eventually be added to Game Pass Standard.
So, you said $8-15 subscriptions are easy to ignore coming out of your account. Well, Game Pass Ultimate was already above that at $17 a month. That seems to invalidate your argument about the new higher price being more noticeable...
My ultimate subscription went up from $21.95NZD a month to $28.95 NZD a month so I’m out Phil Spencer good marketing as a customer for 15 years
I’m going back to buying a game every 2/3 months
Two things you can’t trust, Xbox and brakes.
I kno he gets a lot of hate (and some of it deserved) but I still actually like when Jimmy comes on the channel lol
Subscription services are a burden on consumers… I hate this era of no ownership 😢
I have an Xbox Series S , a X and a PC. Thank goodness for Steam. I do like my Xboxes, but for single player games.
Should be Xbox Tier 1 tier 2 Tier 3
I'm not paying the increase, I agree the package for live access is all I need, good content as always
I paid $35 for a year of GP ulti...
You might as well buy black ops 6 now for 70$ or 60$ or keeping buying that game over an over that adds to 500 in 1 year
Personally lol idc just about how high any gaming or movie subscriptions get because you get tons of games for so much a month whereas if they were new or popular buying them by theirselves is sometimes 20+$ so.... ya buying all these great games in a way is more expensive than getting them all basically for the cost of one game a month
Not to mention some subs give you discounts on stuff you want because your subbed to it
Xbox isn’t dieing, it’s that there is no new games with hype behind them.. except GTA6, if GTA6 is new console only then you’ll see consoles sell more
Is Xbox a company name or a console name? I thought it was Microsoft that increased the price, not the console itself.
Xbox is a company & a console. Xbox is owned by Microsoft but I dont think its only Microsoft that makes all the decisions for Xbox. Since there is the Xbox CEO, Phil Spencer
Ive been telling people for a while hope you like Activison because Microsoft spent more than a gens' worth of Exclusives on it.
Jimmy did a good job of explaining things
I bet Call of Duty is the reason why the price is jacking up.
So? Its gonna correlate with PlayStations Essential, extra, and premium? Essential is your monthly games, rewards and multiplayer access, extra is what essential has but with catalog (their gamepass), finally premium, it has all the benefits including streaming those games, trials, emulated games like remaster of resistance or toy story 3. Sure its a jump, but its not bad. The biggest issue with PlayStations subscription is its 80 a yr for essential, 120 for extra i think (someone fact check it) and premium 160 per yr
Everyone needs to stop complaining if you remember when you were 10 years old you were begging your mother for 10 bucks just to be able to get Xbox live. Now I play 10 more dollars for game pass that I use on my Xbox and PC at the same time. Games used to be 20 bucks. Splinter cell chaos theory was 20 bucks. Now everything's 60. You'll get your money's worth
The only reason I ever pay for game pass was for online play. Previously I payed for Xbox live gold for online play. The only reason people are paying for game pass is because they need online play. But it probably won’t happen because it’s the only way they will make their money. The console game pass is useless since it doesn’t have any online pass. Still regardless of anything. The things I own need to be able to be played online on my internet! Regardless of anything else.
Everything has gone up as long as things go like xbox is saying im good with the price going up
COD Game Pass Tax. That’s it. 👎🏻
Cod trash rather shit in my hands and clap then pay an extra 3 dollars a month for indiana jones, fable, gears of war, all shit😂
@@MountyFt4 that’s some shitty hands you got there lol yea COD is trash every single time.
I gotta be honest I haven’t really played first person shooters since black ops 2. But now that the new black ops 6 is coming plus probably more cod games I’m actually looking forward to play some cod again. Where I’m from it’s only a $2.92 increase. I can live with that. In total it’s $18,33 then.
Just another reason why ill never get game pass. How long do you think it will be before we see the first game pass exclusive's where they ensnare customers with it being the only option to play, then you’ll see some price hikes. Game pass = anti consumer trick that works brilliantly
I definitely enjoy when jimmy chimes in🏆
If you are a person that would pay $70 for a minimum of three games per year anyway Game pass is worth it. But they have to make the games good enough to incentivize that
Ray & Jimmy, can you guys look into “ What is there definition of Day One Games, is that one week, two weeks, a month, 90 days, one year ? I think I’m OK with up to one year waiting for a game and if it’s a game I really want to play or it has a progression or teamwork, I would just buy it. Also, does that mean we have the same amount of games and the same amount of time to play them before they get rid of those games. Or is that different as well ? Because if it’s just day, one games and you have to wait a year, I’m OK with that. There’s so many games to play. I would just get the lesser tier.
You’re spot on! Yeah, Microsoft hates New Zealand. Idk why. Regardless, the fact of the matter is that Xbox has been doing so terribly against their competitors that they need to charge what few customers they have left more money to reduce their financial losses. Microsoft seemingly views New Zealand as their best targets for right now. Stay turned for more to come…
To be honest I’m on PlayStation. Paying $14/month with no good games and online service. So it’s still a win with Xbox.
I had a Xbox Series S and Gamepass unless you like Indies and old games it might not be for you. Not saying I don't like Indies but I'm not heavily into Indy games either. Xbox needs to go even further and utilize their acquisitions. Put the ABK catalog on Gamepass.
Microsoft make soo much money it’s PURE GREED-DISGUSTING
I am going to cancell my gamepass from now on. I am an offline singleplayer gamer. And gamepass console were the sweet spot for me, for the price. I have put the games I like in my wishlist, and will buy them from now on.
Or join the Xbox ambassador program and do their quest and you automatically get a free game pass ultimate
I can kind of understand the increase in price. Kind of.
What I don’t understand is why they went from 3 simple tiers to … what 5 of them now? 3 made sense - Console, PC, Both.
We don’t have to wait until September, I actually just signed up to try it yesterday and it was $19.99.
For the ultimate pass* I wanted to play on cloud gaming on my phone
He did say the price increase was for new customers the price for existing costumers will happen later on this year.
I don't use gamepass anyway
Same here: I stick to purchasing games, (and downloading the free ones.)
For some reason my passwords only last about a month then they don't work and I have to make a new one
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You kinda forgot Xbox Game pass Core for 10 bucks in the US or 75 bucks a year.
It is what XBox Live Gold has been: online multiplayer plus some games (25).
I have been subscribed for a while, and haven't turned on my Xbox for almost a year. I was being billed monthly for Ultimate. The price increase was exactly the nudge I needed to cancel my subscription. Thanks Microshaft!
Your ps friend makes a lot of sense
Id go down to standard, but if you get your codes off ebay you get it for close to half off anyways
Ive never paid nore than 6 euros for a month of game pass ultimate (getting codes on third party marketplaces)
im way to broke
Question. We purchase our games but have to usually be online in order to play them.
If someone stops paying for their game pass, do they lose the ability to play all their
purchased games? Not being able to download the entire game for offline drives me nuts.
Basically yeah, can use offline mode but that’s it
@@DrSchmerz You can still download and play all of your purchased games without game pass. You have never needed game pass just to play your own games.
@@MrMckill3r2023 offline does not work offline for most the newer games now with Ultimate even so I do not see how.
no Xbox Family?!
I can see myself playing my ps 5 more with its exclusives that dont require the internet to play. For me theres not been any exclusives on xbox to warrent gamepass, or any decent games for that matter.
next year will be 25$ for sure
They haven’t even spoken about the family plan for game pass 😅😑!!!
and here was me complaining about spending £1 a month for the gamepass on new accounts 😂 NEVER pay for developers promises only pay for what is delivered WHEN it is delivered
If you think Xbox or game pass is dying, it just fundamentally shows your lack of understanding when it comes to business! Xbox is in a industry leading position right now. They have already changed gaming forever they literally have Sony playing catch up and as of right now they have no response to what Xbox is doing! Xbox is forcing Sony to spend so much money on their infrastructure that they had to slow down on releasing games. People haven't been paying attention to that, but Sony is in a weird position right now where they have to pretty much restructure their entire business model! But no people only want to talk about Xbox dying which no indicator points to that! In the next 3 or 4 years game pass is going to be the best service in the world and that's because we're finally about to start getting so many games! And Xbox knows they can't mess up anymore. Red Fall was an absolute disgrace! And really the only thing an Xbox fan has to be mad about everything else Xbox is killing. They just need to stay on the path! They also need to kill their ex-cloud game streaming service because that shit is bad and laggy stadia was obviously the best. They had the best infrastructure for game streaming with virtually zero lag! You can't play a single game with Xbox game streaming their servers clearly can't handle it! You try to play Forza horizon 5 on that crap you will not be able to get 19th in a 20 place race! I tried to play The Witcher 3 man I'm telling you, you literally can't even play the game! Xcloud is an embarrassment!
I would get a Xbox game pass subscription if they had a scan lower cost one that gave you like 5 credits a month for playing game pass games with
I am going back to just pay month when I want pay instead of just having it draft with out worrying about it like you said
Absolutely right. $20 is way too much. I’m comparing it to Netflix (the standard). Netflix it totally worth their price 💯. Before you said I was going to be grandfather in, I was seriously going to cancel.
I aint paying no 20 bucks a month. Just got a bunch of nice games on summer steam sale for pennies on the dollar, gonna be gaming on pc and steam deck, BUCK XBOX
Only worth if every CoD gets added
There might be a couple, that are not backwards compatible.
@@brostenen such an easy fix for those older CODs, simply create new separate servers from the old gen and convert to script with new gen but they’ll prolly go the Pokémon route and force you to play the new ones by making the old ones inaccessible :/
@@GrimShleeper I were referring to hardware emulators on newer systems. Not easy to get PPC code running on X86 platform. As to why the best Ps3 emulator, runs on Intel only. You really have to use bare metal translation layer for it to work. Like the difference between Pistorm and EMU68.
Well Xbox owns them
I just don’t see them adding all the old COD’s anytime soon cause they don’t want to possibly damage there player base for BO 6 by having ppl spread out across a bunch of old editions
Someone once said " That if it's not broken don't try to fix it ."
Is the reason why Xbox exclusive games doesnt sell well than PS is they put them in gamepass?
$20/mo 😂😂😂 I do pay for it but it’s so funny because people say ps+ too expensive. $240/yr for Game Pass. While it’s $159.99/yr for PS+ Premium. I personally prefer the games on PS+ more than Xbox but my buddy and I play co-op story based games together on the weekend so we try to find a game on game pass we can play together.
I’m not paying for game pass anymore it’s done with me and I’ve had Xbox since 2001
I cancelled my subscription months ago and switched to pc, greatest decision of my life
If someone is struggling to decide if they can handle a $20mth service maybe they should stop gaming until they can improve their situation. Gaming shouldn't b on the top of someones priority list if a $3mth increase I'd a struggle
Xbox should buy Take 2
Well, with build back better everything has gone up so, I'm not shocked. I don't like it but it's still worth it.
I'd love to see you playing xdefiant someday, I stopped playing apex and I feel you 100%
Just pay for core yearly as a standalone and buy the games you want outright. Monthly gamepass is a complete scam.
Hey, I've read that forza horizon 4 will be on sale starting 14th july, but the sale hasn't started, so is it gonne start in the next days or is it cancelled. Wasn't able to find information, maybe you know